>Full episode leaked a whole year early>It wasn't a season finale>Fans loved it>Everyone was excited for moreHow did it go so right?
Oh my fucking god I hate Vox bros
>>154050598Vox is inoffensive and he's probably going to drop out of the narrative for season 3.
>>154049915adam's gut hitting lute's back as he pounds her
>>154050885Made for vigorous sex followed by cuddles.
Sauce?Or context?Is she killing Adam?
>>154052205It's a historic leak from 2024. The full episode has been officially released for like 8 months now. She's not killing him, she's having hallucinations of pulling the shard out of his chest because she feels guilty that she wasn't able to protect him when Niffty killed him.
Adam and his soft belly...
Why can't we have another epic leak for season 3? This shit kept me fed for a whole year. I'm on edge.
>>154050598me too, he was just a generic villain who hated one of the main characters and wanted to take over the world for no reason(and would be easily crushed by Sera or the Voice of God even with his useless power up and dumb crowd) plus Adam was funny, Vox was just annoying
>>154054015He hot.
>>154054015BIGGER
>>154055994TUMMY
>>154055994Season 5 spoiler
Talk about your Lute predictions
>>154059921She's going to have a Miko Miyazaki moment.
>>154059921She will do nothing.
>>154059921If she does turn out to be Eve then she's one of the most nuanced pop culture Eves there is.
>>154060289Pretty sure if she turns out to be Eve she will somehow get ruined by Viv and her team. I don't trust her not to shit on Eve because of her retardation.
>>154060093What exactly does that mean?
>>154060215Holy shit you can see the future!!
>>154060416This bitch from Order of the Stick. Killed her own lord because she thought he was evil and she was so wrong that the gods literally stripped her of her paladin powers right then and there, and she learned absolutely nothing from it.
>>154053992The funniest thing about Vox's whole dumb plan was he kind of forgot that there's literally no way for him to actually GET UP to Heaven.Like Sinners can't even leave Pride Ring, presumably due to magic shenanigans, what makes him think he can get to Heaven?
>>154060830>there's literally no way for him to actually GET UP to Heaven.
>>154060406If Lute is Eve then there's already too much going on between her and Adam for her story to be as simplistic as 'man bad woman good', they read like they are both angry flawed victims of something bigger than them (not God but the imperfect society of Heaven governed by imperfect elder angels who impose their strict and alien vision for humanity on them). There's potential for the greatest pop culture Adam and Eve retelling of all time here if hopefully Viv sees the vision
>>154060406>>154062576Lute, Eve, Lilith, Rosie and Roo have all playing an elaborate prank on everyone in Heaven and Hell by constantly switching identities in secret, but they've been doing it for so long that all five of them have completely forgotten who was originally who, and eventually there's going to be two Liliths or Rosies or whatever showing up at the same time and it's going to be really awkward.
Lute being Eve and reuniting with Adam will heal male and female relations for the zoomer generation
>>154062576Still don't trust her.
>>154062745You think Viv will allow a happy straight ship? MADNESS.
>>154062666Considering how many theories there are about who's in disguise that might be natural conclusion.
>>154062757Viv literally issued an apology in advance to her gay fans for all the straight romance she has in the pipeline for Hellaverse on Bluesky a few days ago.
>>154059921She'll do nothing in S3. She'll do something and die in S4.
>>154062942You might be right
>>154062928Her having to issue an apology for having a straight relationship in her show is not a good sign.
>Adam and Abel are straight but not homophobic>Lute isn't participating so I assume she's straight AND homophobic
>>154065096Based Lute
>>154065096Everybody point and laugh at Adamsapple shippers please
>>154065096Oho Viv was fucking serious about this >>154062928 then.
>>154055994
>>154065265We were already laughing at them. But now we can remain assured that their dogshit ship is eternally dead.
>>154065353Yeah I'm a bit surprised
>>154065096Guitarspear won.
>>154065502All we need is the Eve reveal and we are so back.
>>154065438you underestimate our power (and girlcifer).
>>154065954Your ship is shit. Unless it's just hatefucking it literally doesn't work.
>>154065954I'm browsing twitter right now and people are melting down BAD it's so funny. Viv you lil rascal you absolute cheeky elf. I'm having such a delightful time
>>154066046She's probably gonna get a couple of death threats.
>>154066087I will personally defend her with my holy sword for this
>>154066099Is your holy sword a metaphor for your dick?
>>154065096>>154062928100% its Abel and Emily then. There’s a chance of Baxter and Niffty too, but I don’t think those are as confirmed as the angels, as there was a previous merch drop foreshadowing this. And unless Loona ends up dating a guy (highly doubt it) whatever ship she “apologizes” for is not in HB.
>>154066031you assume i'm not here for the hatefucking (although i am also partial to eden-era that ends in inevitable tragedy OR girlcifer punished for the apple stunt by becoming adam's third and sadly barren but still favourite third wife)
>>154066116I don't have a dick, I'm an adamfag duh. My holy sword is a metaphor for my holy sword made of angelic steel.
>>154066148I understand. You have my respect.
>>154065096What does Sera and Emily's colors mean, I need like a fucking reference sheet for all these different rainbows the skittles squad use.
>>154066361Sera's flag means lesbian
>Uses Pride Month to reveal 4 new character sexualities>2 are straightOk Vivziepop I kneel.
>>154066375tragic.
>>154065096I do think it's funny that Adam is not homophobic, but Lute is.
Niffty sketch
>>154066456The guy loves lesbians. Honestly he comes across as comfortable in his sexuality. The idea some 'fans' had of him as a repressed gay is pure cope.
>>154066397The melt downs on twitter are pure kino
>>154066511>Repressed GayWhere exactly do they get that idea from?
>>154066549Nowhere, they just want to see Adam and Lucifer fuck.
>>154066549They assume his over the top fratboy masculinity is just overcompensating for his repressed homo thoughts, apparently the idea of a guy actually just being masculine and not a gay is impossible for them to conceive.
>>154066416I can't even imagine it playing any functional role for her character or story. I just assumed she and Emily were functionally asexual and would never express romantic or sexual interest in anyone whatsoever. Like I can't imagine this 30 foot tall ageless lady getting some random character as a girlfriend a tenth her size over the course of the show. With the lengths of these seasons, the show doesn't even have time for stuff that actually matters, let alone that.
>>154066582>they just want to see Adam and Lucifer fuckThey literally picked the one guy who ruined his life and screwed over his descendants. If you want him to fuck men let him butt pound Peter. Why ship him why the guy he would feel nothing but hatred to?
Adam loves Pride because he gets to see girls make out
>>154066582now now sometimes i also want to see adam and alastor fuck.
>>154066667I don't think Adam fucks anybody descended from him. He might just stick to heaven born.
>>154066619It just feels like Viv went "oh shit I need a sexuality for Sera!" and threw a dart at a board of various options and went with it.
>>154066667It's so unfathomably based that canonically neither of these characters are sexually interested in men.
>>154066626>Why ship him why the guy he would feel nothing but hatred to?That's precisely why they ship it.
>>154066699Probably
>>154066732Nope. The amount of hate fuck for Adamsapple is way to small for that. They literally delude themselves into thinking these two have a healthy loving relationship. Even if Adam was bi he should feel nothing but disgust towards Lucifer. Feels even weirder when Adam died an Lucifer couldn't be happier.
pour one out for all our male homies who waifu'd Sera, at least if she was ace or pan they would have stood a chance.
>>154066783>Viv wants to make every dark skinned woman in her show a lesbian
>>154066832we should accuse her of racism and fetishizing lesbian black women.
>>154066877YES
spitting on adamsapple shippers. Hawk tuah man.
>>154067173Let em weep.
>>154066783I'm not a Sera enjoyer, but if I was I wouldn't let this stop me.
>>154067173nah this opens the window of straight adam confirming he's immune to the lucicock. 'i know i'm straight, i fucked a guy and it didn't really do anything for me.' think of the hurt-no-comfort. lucifer so sure he can convert adam and 'win' their age old conflict and once they're done adam shrugs and leaves, with lucifer's ego in shambles at not being good enough. knowing he'll never get to experience first man dick again. you all lack imagination but then so do the majority of boring ass adamsapple shippers so i can't blame you.
>>154067323This is some cope
>>154067194Pretty much this. When has canon ever stopped fanon before, anyways?
>>154067323Dude it's dead. Just accept it.
>>154067492adam is also dead, and yet.
>>154067533Despite everything we know Viv ain't bringing him back because she's allergic to peak.
Sorry, fujos, but Lucifer is a woman now.
>>154068236I don't believe you. Post actual proof.
My knees are buckling down. I kneel, Viv.
Adam was almost a given to anyone with eyes but to think Abel is for the girls too. Wow.
>>154066361Emily's flag apparently means not straight but undefined (for now??). Baxter's wearing the same pastel flag.
>>154068726not canon, no funky S
>>154068797Obviously he drew the funky S as a tramp stamp
>>154068774I assume she's going to be something like pans or whatever, because she would love anyone regardless of what they are.
>>154068726Marking women is always so based.
All rise for the Adam's Apple anthem:>Hear my cope>Let it echo
>Adam is an ally (he likes seeing girls kiss) but Lute isn'tlmao
>>154068914She'd only fuck women because Adam finds it hot.
>Vox got his body back alreadyBoo I wanted him to be an ipad for S3
>>154069013>Val keeps his head in a drawer>only pulls him out to play Angry Birds on his face>"He hates this haha"
>>154068914Lute is having tea with Stella
Sex with Lute and Stella.
How did Vox upgrade his head anyway? Just knock the old one off and stick a new one on?
>>154068726
>>154065096Oh look. Adam is wearing a top hat with a feather on it and the shoulder accessories like Abel does. And Abel is looking away from the three queers. Daddy matters more!
Straight white males in a Vivziepop series? Didn't know she had it in her.
>>154069559She needed to confirm that straight white males will get humiliated by queer demons.
>>154069111adam having sex with lute and stella.
>>154069559I'm not surprised she has confirmed straight characters but I am surprised that she put them in the pride merch (I know they're meant to be allies and not straight pride).
>>154069625God is the owner of the rainbow.
>>154069194>Vaggie goes up to this and wants to laugh>She is then reminded she can’t have kids by a passer by
>>154062745I wouldn’t mind if she wasn’t Eve.
>>154060631> A few years ago before the events of the comics, nobles of Azure City sent out an assassination attempt for an unpopular verdict called "Meat Loaf Day", in which Shojo narrowly escaped from. After that day, Shojo found it easier to make people believe that he is senile and easily swayed, being able to make controversial yet necessary decisions without having to worry about being killed over them.[3]Oh yes, because this kind of behavior is 100% okay.
>>154069702I wouldn't mind either. It's a good day regardless.
>>154069530The original humans were straight. Humanity was made gay by gay angels, or "gayngels". This will be an important plot point in Season 3.
>>154070004Makes sense. Humans are the superior creation.
>>154065096>Lesbian needs a literal straight man to direct herAmazing.
>>154070004Maybe some of Adam's unimportant children were gay but him and Eve we straight up built for breeding. Him not liking men is logical. Don't you want him to focus on doing it with a woman?
>>154070096Wish they actually focused on the difference between angels and humans. Lucifer being racist towards humans and Adam being distrustful of angels would be a neat idea.
>>154066654I thought it was because they walk around naked with tape covering their nipples
It's been like 5 hours now and fresh adamsapple fan twitter meltdowns just keep dropping
>>154070311Love to see it.
>>154070311How many?
>>154070505So many!!
>>154070311okay qrd on Holygates
>>154070630I need proof
>>154070678https://twstalker.com/search/Adamsapple
>>154070781What a useful device.
>>154070781Holy shit the sheer delusion of these fucks
>>154070651They might not sperg out as hard. You require a certain amount of brain damage to enjoy Adamsapple. As you can see from their reaction.
>>154070933Rather than accepting the canon and appreciate the Guitarspear, they’ve gone more insane.
How is the Lute=Eve thing even supposed to work? Wouldn't Adam and Abel recognize her? Not to mention all the angels that were around then? Or is this some disguise/reincarnation thing? Why?
>>154071038There's some theories that she changed her form to not recognised. There's also the idea that she got messed up by eating the apple and the Lute form is all they could salvage. It might have straight up lobotomized her soul.
>>154071038It’s just one user that doesn’t really think about how overly contrived that kind of plotline is. More than wifeswap. Even though Viv is incompetent enough to do anything like this.
>>154071076Lute being a twisted up Eve would mean Abel come out of said body after Eden.
>>154071104I actually meant that Eve could not maintain her original body post death because of her soul being affected by the apple. Lute could be a shitty weaker form that she's stuck as now. She probably was closer to Adams height originally.
>>154070982The victimization is really something else. No, it's not homophobic to deconfirm a shitty yaoi slop ship.
>>154071190There is literally no reason to hide this from Adam.
>>154071076>>154071190here's my batshit contribution to the eve=lute theory that i came up with 30 seconds ago. adam's hands, like lucifer's, are dark compared to his actual skin colour. we've had multiple likes from vivzie insinuate that lucifer's hands and feet were horribly burned shielding lilith from the fall. we have no reason to assume adam wears gloves. so, what burned him? what if he saw eve falling to hell too, and reached out to grab her? no matter how much it burned, he held on. however, he was only able to save the parts of her that adored him and wanted to stay with him, while the parts of her soul that wanted to leave were claimed by hell (and roo potentially). these not-eve fragments could eventually be assembled into a new form - which could be lute.
>>154071302We have never seen Adam’s hands or Abel’s hands. They’re always wearing a black suit to hide them.Alastor has similar things going on with his limbs and they’re not burned at all.
>>154071357are they, or did they both reach out to try and save eve's soul from damnation...?
>>154071038Jessica Vosk engaged with the theory and then deleted it a few days after. Straight up NDA violation. Ever since just before the show release, she's always been saying shit like Lute isn't who we think she is, there's little seeds planted for what's to come, that it's something that even she wasn't expecting, etcPretty sure the first humans were also straight. Given today's Pride merch and her weird lack of appearance despite being kind of important in season 2, I assume if she is straight as well, then placing her next to Abel and Adam would probably give something away. Viv also said that both Adam and Lute can be 'whatever' when it comes to sexuality, which for Viv talk, that means they are Straights and didn't want to fuck herself over
>>154071391Yes. The Abel shirt merch reveals it is just a black suit they can change out from. They’re just as covered up as the Exorcists they’ve led.
>>154071455god i wish adam wore the actual exorcist outfit, those thighs being hidden from us by his robe is a goddamn crime.
>>154071473He wears the male uniform.
>>154071473Doesn't he wear like a tight black bodysuit underneath?
>>154071448> I assume if she is straight as well, then placing her next to Abel and Adam would probably give something away.No one really cares about her lore.They just want their ship getting confirmed.
>>154071536Obviously.
>>154071531She wants to see the body suit.
The shards of Eve that loved Adam.Finally, good theories that make Lute creepy.
>>154071581Love the idea that Eve was always creepy though. She's just always been that way. Who the fuck says that she has to be this sweet Disney wife anyway
>>154071598I suspect Eve was that way till she interacted with Lucifer and Lilith.
>>154071641Or until the apple
Sex with the speaker.
>>154071656What Disney Princess bangs a snake before her corruption
>>154071531i've seen some wonderful fanart of that concept but i don't think it's ever been in the show itself. >>154071598people assume lilith is a strong independent bitch and also assume that eve was made to be the anti-lilith, therefore submissive waifu.
>>154071598I know people want her to be some uwu soft baby but I would much prefer if she was a complete madwoman who forced Adam to be chill just so he could balance her aggression. Like Earth was rough place and it probably made her stronger.
>>154071668shut up Sera
>>154071672No matpat, they didn't fuck. Get your Eve hate propaganda out of here. We don't even know what the bitch was like
>>154071698Honestly the whole Lilith is a strong independent bitch really fails in concept when she has done absolutely nothing and had a literal magic genie husband to tend to her every need. Eve actually being the strong capable one would be actually interesting.
>>154071704YES, YOU GET IT
>Wifeswap is real and so is shard Eve>Meaning shard Eve views Eve as a piece of herself that should be dominated by Adam’s body
>>154071672Lucifer was obviously lying. His ass couldn't keep Lilith.
>>154071742>hole Lilith is a strong independent bitch really fails in concept when she has done absolutely nothing and had a literal magic genie husband to tend to her every need.who has the has the Lilith Charlie image where she serves tea or something
>>154071704i love the vision anon, even if it'll lead to a million 'she was fearless and crazier than him' edits.
>>154071775This?
>>154071802yes
>>154071749>>154071581i'm so glad my shard eve idea has resonated. have fun with it.
>>154071762I hope he’s lying. Because if he isn’t, Viv will make it a plotline for a dumb drama arc to wobbie him.
>>154071787My idea would be that she has honey badger energy. She's not as big and strong as Adam so she has to be insanely aggressive and ruthless to win fights.
>>154071837That just Lute. Thus, Lute being Eve.
>>154071815It’s a pretty cool idea that works. My only issue would be the implications of other shard characters. That would get weird fast.
>>154071831Honestly Viv is better of playing it as joke. She's not capable enough of actually writing that scenario without makin Lucifer look like some sleazy douche.
>>154071870Maybe it's just an apple exclusive thing.
>>154071873She would frame it as Lucifer being a desperate dude trying to beat the curse Lilith received. Otherwise, I wouldn’t see why Viv would ever go with it.
People wrote some crazy stuff about Lilith.The first text to have Samael(Lucifer's closest equivalent) and Lilith together was "Treatise of the Left Emanation"That's the same text that had Lilith be the serpent and fuck Eve>And the Serpent, the Woman of Harlotry, incited and seduced Eve through the husks of Light which in itself is holiness. And the Serpent seduced Holy Eve, and enough said for him who understands. And all this ruination came about because Adam the first man coupled with Eve while she was in her menstrual impurity – this is the filth and the impure seed of the Serpent who mounted Eve before Adam mounted her.
>>154071917Menstrual Impurity?
>>154071910That wouldn't really work since sinners can't reproduce and we know Charlie is pretty young. The whole Eve as a surrogate mother doesn't really work. It's also pretty retarded to complain about women autonomy but reduce the one of them to just baby maker. Honestly Mpreg Lucifer might unironically be the best choice.
>>154071891Maybe it’s supposed to be more like Adam’s rib being made to form Eve to then have Lute be made from Eve’s remnants.
>>154071948I guess when she wasn't fertile
>>154071954Lilith isn’t a sinner. She didn’t die then go to hell. She was sent there.
>>154071969I think they’re descriping the ritual Jew laws that had very particular rulings on how the ceremony was supposed to be handled.
>>154071989I was talking about Eve. If she got sent to hell as a sinner she would be infertile.
>>154072054You don’t need to die to be in hell. Helluva Boss has human pope super soldiers being sent to hell. And Lilith was sent there alive too. The only issue is that the place is too dangerous for normal people. Which is odd when most of Hell is just a normal society.
>>154049915>Adam and Abel are revealed as straight>Cue chimp out from mentally ill fujosLmao my day is made. One of the more "famous" stan accounts had a melty and went private over holy gates getting shot down. Lesbian Sera seems like a ploy to soften the blow
Abel has a gay panic moment and punches Peter when he comes on to him then feels extremely guilty and apologetic about it but can no longer look him in the eye becuse he finds him disgusting
>>154072142Peter is the Vel of the group. Emily is the Vox. And Abel is the Val.
>>154072101Pretty sure Eve disappeared after her death. She wasn't throw in while alive like Lilith.
>>154072141Viv has decided to bless us for once. Can't wait for the straight Lute reveal.
>>154072201Yeah, all the Eden humans are
>>154072184Eve has a direct link to Roo. It would be surprising if she didn’t end up being a eldritch entity that used its powers to seep into hell in the background.
Now we know why Abel touched Lute's boobs in Hear My Hope.
>>154072219No Roo is not Eve
I'd love if someone in the show ever brings up how its technically Lilith's fault the exterminations even happened to begin with.
>>154072235He had an Oedipus moment. Freud must be proud.
>>154072254They don’t have to be the same person. Roo itself could be a power source for evil as a whole akin to God being the source for the power of good.
>>154072167If Abel is Val then Lute is his Angel Dust.
>>154072289You forget the fact Lucifer straight up OKed them. He probably was fine as long as they only targeted sinners. Honestly I could see Lilith leaving him for that crap. Him also calling the Lilith Duck a bitch does not seem unintentional.
>>154072289You can say the same thing for Carmilla but I have not seen much of that floating around
>>154072289It would be told by Lilith herself.
>>154072317Yes, I agree with this. But no, I don't think they share a body, nor do I think she's using Eve like a vessel.
>>154072344You need a correction. All sinners are vessels of Roo. And when they die, it seeps out of them to form the eyes of hell.
>>154072358Yes, I do agree with you. I guess I meant... Some people seem to think that Eve and Roo are the same individual, and Eve has no agency, she's a literal meat puppet? Unless you're insinuating that Eve died and that's exactly what's happening, Roo is using her zombified corpse? Either way, I don't really buy that theory. It would be kind of cool to see that happen to Adam. Just to fuck with the fans
>>154072235>Hallucination Adam cheers from the cuck chair>>154072201>>154072212The cherry on top is if Peter was there with the ally flag. I think Viv is scared to make more "revered" biblical figures into queers. Lucifer is whatever, calling the devil gay isn't going to cause offense. But, say Adam for instance? She's too scared to cross into a certain line. What the fujos forget is that these specific characters aren't her OCs, they actually are sacred to certain religions. And I think having a reminder like this makes it all the more sweeter seeing this type of "person" have a crash out that the first pope isn't going to make out with the first murder victim. Even saying that is like "what the fuck"
>>154072375Roo could tempt Eve to be evil and even posses her at times. That makes sense to me. Eve using her connection to Roo to enact great powers and great evil makes sense too. But thinking Roo and Eve are the same thing is like saying Satan and Judas are the same person because Satan entered Judas.
Charlie also pushes women by the boobs
>>154072325Its funny how people headcanoning it as something he was forced to agree to, and him getting hellborn a pardon was some hard won concession he gained out of it.Meanwhile if we go by how he treats sinners in the show he was probably all for the exterminations. He probably gave Adam a map to all the older Overlords houses so he can hit them first, and asked for them to film it so he can watch them get smote.
does this mean Abel holds Emily's hands every night?
>>154072499He wants to
>>154072381Imagine if Peter has a buff wife
>>154072318Lute will not be Abel’s angel dust. She will be Abel’s Zestial and bring up a top exorcist girl to be his angel dust.
>>154072465People don't wanna accept that their favourite character is a massive racist towards humans. I would kneel if Viv actually portrayed him acting like Lilith is one of the good ones and making vaguely subtle racist remarks towards her.
>>154072531He did fall into the arms of that buff winner chick in his song. And he blushed when Lute pointed her weapon at him. I can see it. >>154072499>>154072519What's interesting is that they seem to be unrequited. Other merch had him glancing at her while she doesn't pay him mind. In the show, he blushes at her praise but her praise is her struggling to describe why he was promoted and not Lute. I don't get what the hell her flag means. It's too generic and it's not an ally flag so I guess she's closeted?
>>154072670>When Emily does start to love Abel at a bad time. He rejects her and then she calls herself a lesbian afterwards.
>>154072740They might actually make their relationship cannon to have at least one chocolate enjoyer. Has Hazbin any other mixed straight couples were the race is vaguely noticeable?
>>154072777Agents 1 and 2Emily and Abel seem like a tragic romance set up with how Emily is given a fallen angel prophecy.
>>154072805Agent 1 and 2 are technically helluva exclusive.
>>154072842Exclusive no longer.
>>154072740Lesbian Emily would have been funny because then all the Abel ships would flop aside from him and Lute. I wish it did happen, Ace Sera seemed more fitting. Lute being absent is funnier because it makes her look more homophobic. Adam gives off "I only like lesbians because it's hot" vibes. >>154072805>Fallen Emily Was always the dumbest fanon take. Everyone making Sera this monster that would throw Emily out of Heaven pissed me off because it's the exact opposite of what we were shown. Lute has a higher chance at falling.
>>154072895Sera is hesitant to do anything like this. Doesn’t mean the other angels aren’t. Even those we expect to never hurt her.
>>154072895It’s not fanon. Emily loses her halo in her prophecy bubble.
>>154073041Fanon.
Why didn't Viv reveal straight Lute. Is she not straight? Is she going to be a dyke?
>>154073316Lute would’ve wrapped herself around Adam.
>>154073375built to be raped by _____!
>>154073384Dirlewanger!
now what
>>154074993Now we protest the pride parade.
>>154075460Not a bad idea.
>>154077716
>>154073041>prophecy bubbleOk then, if Sera can see the future, why didn't she see that Pentious was actually redeemed? Why did she go along with Emily's retarded apology schemes? Why didn't she see that she'd need the shield around heaven to be stronger?Prophecy, like precognition and time travel, are things best left the fuck alone unless the story is about them, because them being present just leads to an absolute assload of questions for which there really is no satisfying answers.
>Canonically 100% heterosexual
>>154073316She's too bigoted to attend a pride parade. Even Adam can't make her tolerate queers.
>>154073316A million potential reasons>She's homophobic>She's straight and Viv would get too bullied for putting 3 whole newly revealed straight characters on the Heaven float in the pride merch (remember she just put out a fucking apology for all the straight stuff she has planned) >They couldn't figure out a way to have her there that wouldn't put the focus on Guitarspear which would feel egregious for pride merch>She's bi but she's not going to be able to handle that until later in the story
Adam and Abel dyed their wings in black and white like Lute's for the pride parade though and for sure when Adam gets back that's going to make her feel blushy and flustered
>>154078249>Sir, what are you wearing?>Oh, this? Some of my gay grandkids invited me to some shit they came up with called "Pride" where they do nothing but dress up and party and be gay for an entire month straight! Sorry, an entire month GAY. The Dickmaster is only for the ladies but I'm down to party. Wanna come?>ABSOLUTELY NOT!
>>154078357Adam once again proving he's a great father figure. Then again if he and Eve had a shit ton of children some of them might have been gay.
>>154078187
>>154049915This show is highly satanic because it has DEMONS and HOMERSEXUALS
>>154078557Honestly I'd say it's not even that satanic since most demons in the show are loser frauds or mentally retarded. Its also a complete embarrassment to demonology since she doesn't want to put in any effort. Viv just wanted a setting to dump her shitty oc's and picked hell. She absolutely does not use the concept properly and the fact that we only got the Sins ( which suck in the show) and lame ass Lucifer is proof of her lack of creativity and laziness.
>>154078557Viv just revealed two popular husbandos are straight white men.
>>154078599And that every single lesbian is a POC- wait what?What does Viv mean by that?
>>154078607Non white women should not date men.
Vivziepop learned from Andrew Hussies failure and realized making EVERYONE gay is unpopular as fuck.
>>154078701Andrew didn't make everyone gay. It's just that after he let other people (specifically fans) to do the sequel and epilogue things got derailed to complete fag town.
I'm thinking Lute's not on the Pride standee because fans would assume the Adam is her hallucination and she's only projecting that he's straight.She's not there so we know it's real Adam and he's definitely straight.
>go on twitter>my feed is full of people seething because Abel is straightWhat the fuck is wrong with this fandom?
>>154078808You would think the girls who like Abel should be happy he likes women.
>>154078629Kek
>>154078808I've only seen it comes from who's-who faggots like Sator and Sagging Tits, though I'm sure there's others.
>>154078808>>154078872Girls who actually like Abel( not fujos who just use him as way of fulfilling their fetish) are happy as fuck. Really tho only fuckers shitting their pants on the Adam side are the mentally retarded Adamsapple shippers. All straight Adam shippers are celebrating right now.
>>154078962Yeah as far as I can tell the only people who are really upset are the AbelXSt Peter peeps
>>154078808It's not like this is gonna stop me from wanting to be balls deep inside his chubby twink ass.
>>154078984That reads as just friendship to me.
>>154078987He won't want it though, just like the guys you crush on in real life.
>>154079040Brutal
>>154078872There's no group that hates women more than fujos. They hate themselves so much and can't imagine themselves in relationships which is why they can only ship men.
>>154079040>just like the guys you crush on in real life.You didn't have to say it like that, bro.
>>154062576And Adam had the potential to be one of the greatest cartoon villains in the 2020s and look how that turned out
What happens if Eve is Roo?
>>154078962>>154078984nah there's a guitarspear hating emilute shipper melting down about how lute HAS to be a lesbian on r/hazbin.
>>154079013>"No it isn't! They were in love! Viv shouldn't pander to homophobes!"
>>154079320Wait for the Adam upscale. I would fucking bow down to Viv if we get a flashback with him interacting with Lilith on the beach and he's acting like a normal person. If this is the " we must make Lucifer fuck men " season we are so back.
My reaction to fandoms that are more concerned with the characters' sexualities than the actual plot.
>>154079481Most people coping that Lute is a lesbian are fucking retarded. They're having a melty now because they realise they are gonna get the "character that I ship with the same sex is actually straight" treatment.
>>154079372Could also be cool. Honestly I don't really mind that much who Eve turns out to be but I want Adam to actually have/had a healthy relationship with her. Making them actually love eachother is better than all the subversive "Adam was actually awful to his wife"( fuck off Netflix Lucifer fans).
>>154079372Isn’t she impersonating Lilith?
>>154079511specifically they think emilute is a wicked style dynamic, when i think lute and emily have exchanged a single line of dialogue and it was emily saying 'please don't genocide the sinners!' and lute going 'you're infecting your sister with your cowardice, more genocide now' while abel tried to be centrist about it. and i like wicked but i don't think that's how wicked went. >>154079527same i hope adam and eve were happy. i said in another thread that i think the reason the exorcists all skew towards white/grey hair is that adam's last memories of eve were of her as an old woman and he still thinks of her as the most beautiful woman in the whole world, so why wouldn't he think that's the most beautiful hair colour too?
>>154079511No one seems to have a problem with Cherrisnake despite being straight too. Those characters may be bisexual, but it’s a woman and man relationship.
>>154079481I guess they're upset that only half of picrel might become canon, lmao
>>154079612Cherrysnake is weird. It's was one of the original pilot ships and actually became canon in the show. Despite that it's kinda mid. I'd seen more people ship Pentious with Sera or Baxter than Cherry.
>>154079605The exorcist white/gray theory is super cute and wholesome.
>>154079602We don't fucking know. At this point Lute, Eve, Roo, Lilith and Rosie could be all impersonating eachother and we wouldn't have any idea.
>>154079667They didn't get the height difference right.
How hard do you think Viv is laughing to herself at seeing how hard the TADC finale is getting shit on?
>>154079690>I'd seen more people ship Pentious with SeraIn my experience the biggest advocates of Cherrisnake are the same sort of reddit men who self-insert as Moxxie in MoxxieXLoona ships. Actually scratch that, they're distaff Charlastors in that they only "love" Pentious/Charlie insofar as they self-insert as them in order to lust after their waifu/husbando.
>>154079844Viv ain't probably laughing knowing she's next. TADC finale might be JJK's ending while Hazbin's finale might be CSM ending. We have to wait and see how hard she shits the bed.
>>154079933I've seen enough of Viv's past work to think she's probably too much of a fandom girl who likes stories that make her feel good instead of trying to make some kind of statement like Goose. Therefore I think the ending to Hazbin will be inoffensive.
I forgot Carmilla and Zestial also count as a heterosexual couple. So at least 3 of them in the horizon. 4 if Lucifer reunites with Lilith.
>>154079844Viv and Goose are friends and collaborators, she probably loved it. And will take advantage of it’s success to release the Hazbin finale on theaters.
Are we close to the bumb limit?
>>154079667It’d be very weird for Lucifer
>>154079707plot twist, they're all the same character.
>>154081199
I love Abel.
>>154081557All darker skin women. Is Viv trying to tell us something?
>>154078808Theater kids love policing ships. Now that one of them cannot be canon, they are having a fit. >>154078950Sagging privated her entire account after crying that holygates shippers would get harassed over the merch. Naturally, everyone called her dramatic for crashing out over the biblical figure being straight for several hours. She's 28 years old and is obsessed with roleplaying as Abel with her 29 year old St. Peter cosplay wife. Its fucking weird but that's the type of mentally ill person Viv attracts with this kind of pandering. >>154079502At the end of the day, wanting canon sexualities is some weird form of asking for permission before playing with the dolls.>>154078872I'm happy because fuck the people that ship him with St. Peter, that shit is actually vile and blasphemous.
>>154081659For me it not even the blasphemy that's the issue. It's the fact that he's technically by proxy related to him. You can't really ship Adam or Abel with most humans since they are descendants of them. Like isn't fucking weird banging your over seventy times great grandson/nephew?
>>154081651That she likes dark skin women?
>>154081750It's not even the incest for me. At a certain point, we are all related. My thing is that Peter was a real man that died violently in the name of Christ. Viv having turned him into a quirky, singing twink has caused people to forget who he actually is. You can argue Abel is fictional but something about how a real person that is venerated by billions getting bastardized like this rubs the wrong way. Imagine Jesus getting the Viv treatment and the fandom makes weird yaoi with him and, fuck I don't know, Cain or some shit. Its just so fucking weird. On every level, holygates disgusts me. Abel and Lute is superior to that but I bet those same fujos would scream how problematic it is despite shipping something much worse.
>>154081811>Viv likes womenHonestly with her gay men fetish and writing choices I kinda doubt it
>>154081832Yeah Peter is a victim of Viv doing so little research she straight up didn't know he was a real guy. Him acting that way in Hazbin is also fucking lame when you actually have accounts of the guy. His death being by far his greatest show of character by choosing to be crucified upside down because he felt unworthy.
>>154081750i feel like the show's probably gonna sidestep the whole 'adam and abel and cain all fucked eve and the daughters/sisters' thing. i'd imagine in the hellaverse god looked at adam and eve successfully producing children and spawned a fuckload of people all over the world afterwards, making them and any random winner about as likely to be related to the cast as any two random people in say, paris, because then you might as well say we can't ship huskerdust because husk and angel are technically related too. i think adam might think it's weird to bang winners (he has canonically fucked a virtue angel which is a bug (a straight male monsterfucker is a fucking unicorn by the way, good for him)) since he clearly has some attachment to the idea that all of humanity descended from him as well as helping raise a bunch of them, but abel might be less strict potentially given he probably died before having kids, and was never really around other people.on the other hand adam's obviously cranked at least one out to angel dust porn so he might just have a brain-only kink.
>>154079844I’m going to troon and abstract!
>>154081879Peter being in this show is the most surface level "I remember hearing something about St. Peter at the gates of Heaven so I'll squeeze it in there" type shit. Completely disregarding anything else about the real human. I saw a clip of Viv getting told she's so knowledgeable for pulling religious information from various sources/ how well researched the Hellaverse is and you can't help but feel irritated seeing a midwit get praise on shit she knows nothing about. Viv can say she does research but her work absolutely does not reflect this. >>154081937Biblical incest is off-putting but I doubt it will ever get addressed, and if it does, expect shitty lore.
>>154081937>on the other hand adam's obviously cranked at least one out to angel dust pornNothing indicates he jerks to him or is a fan, just that he knows who he is. He commands an all-female army, exorcist parties probably screen stolen Angel Dust movies all the time.
>>154081937Honestly to avoid the incest thing from the bible I could see the Angels taking a individual bone from each of Adam and Eve's kids to make them a partner. Kinda mirroring the whole Eve being made from Adam's rib. It would remove the whole incest problem and explain the genetic diversity of humans. You could also have some of them asking for same sex spouses so Viv can shove her representation in. It would also be a bit depressing if Abel and Cain didn't get partners because the process started after Abel died and Cain got exiled.
>>154079527Netflix's Lucifer is so fucking shit, and trying to make The Devil look cool and/or sympathetic is always lame as fuck.
>>154082018He could have just seen some posters or advertisement when going down to hell for Exterminations. It isn't hard to deduce Angel Dust's occupation if you see those.
Didn't Sagging work on the show and is also a Guitarspear shipper? Why is she melting down?
>>154082113She used to work? Did she get fired?
>>154081937You don't need a femanon's masturbatory fantasy headcanons to prove Adam knows who Angel Dust is without seeing his adult films. What >>154082108 is basically correct, Angel Dust is so fucking famous that he has posters in the Lust Ring, somewhere he can't even access. Hell's most famous pornstar would have ads everywhere in Pride.
>>154078181Sera is given accurate prophecies. Not the full details of what is going on in them.
>>154082121I don't know what her status is, but I'm pretty sure she did work on the show at some point.
Seriously though gay or even bisexual Adam would have been boring as fuck because the man is OBSESSED with women at the concept level, like here you have someone with some of the strangest most bizarre fixations on women as a whole and how he should relate to them as the first man and you think it would be more interesting to explore him having a relationship with a man? Get outta here
>>154081750Anon, we're all related. I'm pretty sure any two humans currently on Earth have less degrees of separation by blood than you would to Adam.
>>154082160>Gay AdamWhy in the fuck would the Angels make him that way? He's supposed to be the first man. One of the goals he was created for was to reproduce. Are people genuinely retarded? God I hope Viv make all Eden humans straight otherwise it reeks of plot contrivance.
>>154082207It's less the related thing and more they originated from him. It's kinda weird to describe. Then again we only got confirmation he fucked heavenborn angels ( went full Omni man and fucked a bug woman).
>>154082081Seth and Cain have descendants.
>>154078347>Vaggie falls>Gets her wings taken out>Becomes a dyke>Her wings are reformed >They are no longer black and white but a pathetic grey
Every fallen exorcist will be a dyke
>>154082160Making Adam be into men is so fucking stupid because heterosexuality was invented because of him. Him being attracted to women is the only thing that makes sense because the concept of women was made for him. This should not be controversial but this fandom is infested with fujos. >>154082113>>154082121Sagging has interacted with Viv in the past through Twitter and meetups but she does not work for Spindle. Her own art doesn't look like it meets industry standard. Spindle does recruit fan artists into their roster but those people know how to emulate the style perfectly. Maybe she does ship Lute and Adam but she has a fixation on Abel/is a diehard holygates shipper alongside her wife. It might be her self inserting as the character but now that said character is not queer like she is, it's making her furious. >>154082255In the Bible. But anything goes in Viv's convoluted lore.
>>154082255I know. Not sure if Viv is going to add Cain's kids though and she hasn't really mentioned Seth ever. The whole "braver son" could be either of them.
I love Sera.
>>154082425me too, she's so pretty and sounds so lovely when she sings with the speaker and pentious. i hope she gets to sing more.
>>154073096I need the bois to meet the bois
>>154073316>>154078304I think a combination of not wanting to give a definitive answer right now, and also her alignment right now as of end of S2 is clearly not purely in the heaven camp. Same reason Angel Dust appears with the Vees, I think.
>>154082538I love her singing voice too.
>>154083719I've accepted by now that Lute is THE slow burn character in Hazbin and while Viv has said a bunch of times that her arc is leading up to a climax and a payoff it's not yet and we have to wait for it. I'm not surprised they kept her out this round, they're deliberately withholding her from this kind of stuff because her story is not ready yet. When it is, she'll get the merch.
>>154084251Might be a bit to late. The whole Lute tease is kinda reaching it's limits. They also should release more merch with her because her fans are literally fighting for scraps.
>>154084371We just finished season 2 of 5, the show is not even half way done. You talk lime the show's almost over.
>>154084251i can only assume this means she gets a serious story-driven permanent redesign down the line which does add serious credence to the lute=eve theory (though does also dash my guitarspear hopes that adam could come back too since he hasn't been redesigned, unless he gets resurrected as himself. no roo meatpuppet adam corpse that refuses to obey her in order to spare lute for me).
>>154078808fujos are not people
>>154082646cursed>>154072455proofs
>>154084449My main takeaway is that if they hype Lute for several seasons without her doing much only for her big moment to flop hard it's going to feel like a waste.
>>154084459Miss anon, don’t you remember that shipping merch is a thing?Lute’s redesign will basically be gold wings and maybe blonde hair
>>154084515dont you find it funny Hazbin Hotel has a lot of positive male antagonists AND protagonistscompetent, calculated, and even attractive?
>>154084559Eve/Lute?
>>154084595I'm genuinely believe Viv and her team dislike writing female characters. Because they are not their favourite type of toy they just half ass it. All male characters do something or are in a way superior to their female counterparts.
>>154084578Anybody got an edited pic of blonde Lute with pinkish skin? I know they are some edits of her with long hair.
>>154079502god Nifty is awesome
>>154084597That's what the artist intended, yeah. Honestly if her hair was longer and a more golden blonde then I totally see it.
>>154084672
>>154084707Found some long hair Lute
>>154084707Lilith and Eve have curlier hair
>>154084559Female Sephiroth
>>154084717I doesn't look that curly in Lilith's case and it's hard to tell for Eve because all we got is that fuckass shadow.
Longer haired Lute looks more like Lilith than Eve
>>154084746
>>154084737The shorter hair on Lilith is around her ears, curled upwards. Her long hair curls upwards. Abel has curly hair too.
>>154084732only if she drops down from heaven skewering Vaggi from behind in front of Charlie
>>154084841Then Vaggie turns into a swan.
>>154084781Sephiroth. Sephiroth.
>>154084841Nah. Vaggie will never be an Aerith.
It's so fucking funny to me that Lute canonically has a phone. I wonder if she has roblox.
>>154084841Vaggie is not innocent enough. Emily is.
I want them to explore the whole fallen angel thing more. Like have a subplot of Lucifer wanting to bond with his daughter’s gf so he takes Vaggi to meet the others since we know Azazel is down there so presumably the other Watchers are too. Also does Vaggi even qualify really as Fallen? It didn’t seem like she was officially booted out of heaven, they just took her wings and halo, basically the equivalent of taking someone’s phone and keys and leaving them stranded in Detroit.
>It's almost a sure thing that Charlie will act like an idiot again in season three.Why does Viv hate her so much?
>>154085353Probably not happening. I don't think Viv is actually gonna ever show or even mention the watchers. Azazel was just a fun cameo in Charlie's phone. Viv's main focus seems to be her OCs so well probably get some more Alastor, what happened to Vox and Valentino Angel drama.
>>154085160Two winged angel in this case.
>>154085355The only thing to make it even funnier is if Viv reveals not only is Abel straight, but he also FUCKS. Like reveals he’s got plenty of ex-gfs in Heaven, who’s he’s all on good terms with, and they still praise his skill in bed, like it was the one thing about him that Adam was super proud of.
>>154085436He probably didn't get to clap many cheeks during his time on earth so he had to experiment and make up for lost time in heaven. He does seem like the type that FUCKS.
>>154084715>>154084781>>154084815the first thing that got me on the eve=lute theory was that one shot of her running towards the hallucination adam saying 'you're alive?!' where her hair physics are like distractingly well animated. it made me think of madoka, where any scene of homura messing with her hair is symbolic of her remembering the past, and that made me think that a similar scene might've played out with lute when she still had long hair. during gravity she also keeps grabbing at her hair and at one point runs her hand down the back like she's expecting it to be longer, in what looks like an attempt at a self comforting gesture, so i wonder if adam used to stroke her hair to comfort her and she cut it out of grief after his first death perhaps.
>>154085436It has occurred to me that they might have made Abel straight mostly so Lute's seething about how weak he is compared to his father, and Adam's disappointment in him too, if that was genuine, does not come across as homophobic.
>>154085666 You might be right. Nice catch. Double if the Lure is Eve theory is real since it would feel to much like straight parents disappointed with a gay son.
>>154085595Gravity feels like it's something much bigger than it seems.
>>154085773i wonder if the great flood means more to adam (and lute in the eve=lute scenario) than we know, because realising that almost none of their descendents were worthy of heaven has to be a pretty upsetting thing for them. even if it was god's will.i do also wonder how that event shaped hell, because hundreds of thousands of people dropping at once must've been apocalyptic for any existing structures in there. and then lucifer knows the only reason they're there is because of the sin he introduced and the hellborn demons and sins he allowed to go to earth and tempt them.
>>154086023The flood happened because more angels decided to bang women instead of waiting for winners.
>>154085982The Balkan experience
It could be as disappointed as the angels deciding to make another wife for Adam (without his permission) by the ground cursed by Roo, and then realizing that the whole world is messed up.
>>154086072It was more that their messed up halfbreed kids started causing even more problems.
>>154086147What made them think those things could work?
>>154086072Had to drown those foul Nephalim to wipe them out.
>>154086072>>154086147my understanding of the flood is basic (raised and continue to be atheist, but went to protestant school) and i always assumed it was the whole 'fuckload of people being shitty people, god goes 'fuck are there any good people left? hey you' to noah, arc happens, sinful people mock noah for building the ark, then oops flood all the sinners are dead'. where does the hardcore angel sex come in?
>>154086023It also depends if they go with the whole pre-flood humans Vs post-flood humans. Pre-flood humans were said to be bigger (Adam's height might have been the norm) and lived longer ( I think the average was 900 years). Imagine seeing the new gimped version of humanity. Manlets that live for a tenth of your lifespan. It would be borderline depressing.
>>154086215> where does the hardcore angel sex come in?The beginning of the chapter.The giants are their sons.
>>154086216So why would Abel be so small
I wanna see Lu and Emily wearing duck pajamas while watching duck shows in the next season
>>154086215The watchers were a group of Angels tasked with watching over humanity. They eventually decided to forget their job and started ruling over like tyrants and breeding with human women. They produced half human-angel hybrids called nephilim. Who were said to treat humanity like cattle.
>>154086183>>154086185Judging from the fact the term nephilim isn't once used in the show either they were absolutely horrible or Viv doesn't want to use them.
>>154086326Charlie is one and Lute calls her an abomination.
>>154086350Lute calls her an abomination but never actually uses the term nephilim. I wonder if Charlie is meant to be a special case. The nephilim are supposed to look a bit messed up so I wonder if Lucifer took some precautions so she didn't end up deformed.
>>154086248Isn't he a big boy? He seems pretty tall.
>>154086406He’s lute size
>>154081957Just compare how Viv and Goose handled their respective self-insert's parental issues.Viv's dad completely walked out on them, and she still writes Lucifer as a well-meaning father with whom Charlie gets along.Goose's mother didn't immediately accept what a proud and beautiful kween he was, and Jax almost kills his mom, and the most we get is his therapy frog saying, "You weren't arrested, so it's fine."No matter how much of a libtard feminist a real chick is, they're still not as spiteful and shitty as a troon.
>>154086389Charlie looks like a clown. That’s a nephilim thing.
>>154086426Goose has posts about hating women so much he doesn’t want them in the show at all.
>>154086459Viv needs to learn to stop wasting her time sucking his estrogen dick to prove what an "ally" she is. The juice isn't worth the squeeze.
>>154086476Estrogen penis juice
>>154086426Didn't Vivzie have issues with her mom? From what o heard she actually had an ok relationship with her dad.
>>154086440>Gigantic Naked Clowns Eating People Sounds like nightmare fuel
>>154086389I mean Charlie is really tall, like 6’6Maybe if her dad wasn’t a fucking angelet she’d be like 7-8ft tall. She’s also got hooves, a snout, clown cheeks, and may or may not be covered in fine fur rather than skin, she is a freaky monster in appearance.
>>154086426Goose did actually have a supportive father, his mother was the one who didn't support his transition, and he still talks about hating her and fantasies about killing her. This is why Ragatha has mommy issues and Jax kills(?) his mom.
>>154086530It was. Even children fear Ronald McDonald because of it.
>>154086548No matter how much you think you hate women, you will never hate them as much as a man who claims he's a woman.
>>154086548>fantasies about killing herWhat level of retardation do you need to have to mention this online? Who is actually this fucking stupid?
>>154086440Since when?>>154086389>Special caseIt likely doesn't go any deeper than "must have cute girl OC". She should be a 6 fingered giantess if she was a nephilim>>154086215Book of Enoch, it's non canonical. Explains a lot of gaps in Genesis about who the Nephilim are and what pushed God to flood the earth aside from "humans being bad">>154085415>Just a cameoSums up the show
>We learn Abel and Lute weren’t originally human in appearance.>Their true forms are horned bird furries.
>>154086592The same guy who throws away an entire series worth of build-up to jerk off to his troon lobotomy fetish for an hour.
>>154086598Her dad is a manlet
>>154086598I can see Lucifer using his angelic powers to alter Charlie during her incubation. Her being the most beautiful Nephilim by a landslide ( number 2 and 3 looks like crap by comparison) could be interesting. It would also be a hilarious moment if Charlie actually gets to meet her "people" and they're all grotesque monsters.
Vaggie is so lame. Her life has no direction besides dyking.
>>154086719I don’t like how everything about her revolves around Charlie. Like I’m no relationship expert, but when every song Vaggie is involved in is always about her love and dedication to Charlie, that just seems kinda unhealthy?Like does Vaggie have any other hobbies? Any likes or anything that doesn’t involve her gf?
>>154086836Sinner Vaggie had an interest of redemption. This Vaggie is aiming for dyking
>>154086836from what i remember of old vivzie likes, i think that's intended to be a character flaw of hers, but at this point even a brief actual chaggi break-up would be devastatingly bad series PR even if they get back together within the same season, so i doubt who vaggi is without charlie will ever really be explored. which is a shame because vaggi having her own reprise of gravity where she realises that if she doesn't have a life outside of charlie she'll end up like lute would be so neat.
>>154087541Comparisons to Lute don't work here unless they kill off Charlie. Lute's not just fucked up and spiralling because she's in love with Adam, she's fucked up and spiralling because he died violently and nobody else seems to care.
>>154087415>>154087415>>154087415>>154087415>>154087415>>154087415>Resurrected Adam looks more like an exorcist angel and Abel as a sign of moving on from Eve and sinners.
>>154087742How did this glitch happen?
>>154087723Don’t forget they’re rewarding Charlie and provided no penalties. Abel is barely hiding how pissed he is about Pentious.
>>154085595How did *that* part convince you, but not Jessica directly requoting the Lute being Eve theory and then deleting it? That's definitely spoiler territory.
Oh yeah, Lute is absolutely Eve. Viv says she wants to explore Eve's story, yet Eve is practically nonexistent in the narrative. Meanwhile Lute has no known backstory, a crap ton of withheld information, and an entire character arc revolving around Adam. This shit is not coming out of left field. I hate the Heaven characters and am only watching for Alastor, but likeeeeeeee yah I can see it
>>154087893No MatPat. Bad shizo. Stop spreading misinformation.
>>154087893>Abel is barely hiding how pissed he is about Pentious.oh my fucking god. no matpat, leave.
>>154088073Can't wait for Viv to somehow fumble this and give Eve the most retarded story conclusion.
>>154088110Someone else pointed out Abel’s passive aggressive behavior.
>>154088113Oh yeah, no shit. Jessica has been hinting at this shit, but I've no doubt Viv will fumble it.
>>154088128Abel is not bloodthirsty.Zestial is not Cain.The Book of Enoch doesn't count for shit in Hazbin.Lute's halo is not a fucking engagement ring.Adam is not a good guy.fuck off already
>The Eve backstory isn’t given by Lute. But by Abel instead.
>>154088156What does Abel being passive aggressive have to do with any of this?
>>154088159Maybe. Could be interesting watching Abel talk about his mom. I could also see him being shocked by the "altered" version know by Charlie and actually spilling the beans on the truth.
Retards look at this shit still and say that Lute is meant to be a -parallel- or clone of Eve.
>>154088228abel being like 'oh my mom hates your dad so much that she decided to change her name so anything lucifer tainted was erased. so that's why i call her miss lute! :D'
I don’t want Lute to be Eve because it makes my desire for Abel to dick the crazy out of her weird now.
>>154088323I always did find it weird how he asks if he can call her 'Miss Lute' when they've apparently met beforehand
>>154088347That would still be a viable option for many people in the fandom, just saying. And I mean, all the first humans shagged their siblings
>>154088347If she's not Eve then Mr. Confirmed Heterosexual wifing the crazy out of her is still a valid option.
>>154088232FemAnon. Reread the full tweet.It has the (I’m definitely wrong) subtext.It is fine for Lute to be her own character entirely. Don’t act like it’s offensive.
>>154088410What's fem anon?When did I act like it's not offensive. Don't be offended that Lute being Eve is a death penalty or that Lute wouldn't be her own character. Ride the hate boner somewhere else
No but like srsly why did they not include Lute in the merch? But they bring back Adam? is she actually homophobic
>>154088456See >>154078767
So if Adam and Abel are straight, does that mean Lilith and Eve are straight too?
When will literally every single thing in the pride ring stop being treated like it has stakes so an actual plot can happen. Vox was never a threat to anything but viewer retention.
>>154088456Merch cannot have canon couples in them. Even Zestial and Carmilla lack it because the pact between them isn’t canon.Pure female autism
>>154078767I mean, Viv could have just confirmed that. I'm more confused as to why bring him back at all, or at least not include Lute
>>154088456If she's actually straight it would have caused an even bigger meltdown. The Yuri fags would have went ape shit. Viv's Twitter is already exploding from deranged fujos. Her whole tweet about straight characters make sense in retrospect. She was trying to calm the waters before the storm. It obviously didn't work.
>>154088500>Merch cannot have canon couples in them.?? charlie and vaggie, pent and cherri, niffty and baxter, valentino and vox? hell, even abel and emily
>>154088528Hoping for straight Lute. I'd worship Viv 4ever. tired of morons saying she wants to rape vaggie and charlie
>>154088489I imagine Eve would be, kinda necessary to be straight to be the Mother of Humanity. Lilith though, she spent ten thousand years in hell married to a shapeshifter, she probably got up to some WILD shit that there’s not even a label for her sexual preferences yet.
>>154088533Abel and Emily are a one sided crush and Abel is looking away from Emily in the pride merch.
>>154088489I would hope so. They are some weirdos on Reddit that think Eve is a lesbian ( fucking creepy). For Lilith I don't know. Viv can make her bi and it won't piss off anyone.
>>154088566I mean ,,,, it's not necessary? She could be bi or whatever the fuck
>>154088573yeah sure. and the rest...?
>>154088533I messed up the wording. I meant merch cannot have non-canon couples in them. It’s a Viv fujo policy for anything straight.
Adam raped Eve. That's entirely possible, given that Lilith didn't want to submit to him and if we assume Eve didn't want him, since he was too controlling.
>>154088578Honestly the whole first humans can be bi is pretty fucking stupid. Why would you make them that way since it would only complicate things? You need them to reproduce. It would make sense to have that aspect show up after a couple generations since the human race dying out isn't a problem anymore.
Bro who even gives a shit, Adam is dead.
>>154088627Well yeah that's the fucking point, he's dead. Why the hell does he get to be on the merch and not Lute.
>>154088608That defeats the whole point of giving him a new wife because the first one didn't want him.
>>154088608That's way too dark and not happening. If Viv actually does that she's the biggest hack in history.
>>154088492The pride ring actually works to show the quick developments the the sinners have in being threats. One secret and another being exposed ramped up the destruction they have.The problem with Vox is him having too many episodes when he should’ve been a threat for one or two episodes like he would be in a good show.
>>154088643The first one had the strength and capacity to leave. Eve probably didn't. It probably didn't even occur for her that she could leave. Hence why she 'gladly' took the fruit.
>>154088653Adam fags would lose their minds if their precious white supremacist was also legit a rapist probably.
>>154088674She gladly took the fruit because traditionally Eve thought it was super cool and wanted to share it with Adam too.
>>154088705Yeah and 'traditionally', Lilith is not biblical canon either. Watch the episode again. Eve looks sad and slumped over. She wanted out.
Nah, Viv doesn't have the balls to actually write dark shit like that. Not only that, she'd suck at it either way.
>>154088702Just because you liked Netflix Lucifer does not mean that shit should be done in every show. There's a point were subversive crap is so overused it becomes the boring norm. Also Viv has a fetish for gay men getting raped. She will probably just insert her preferred type of rape ( especially considering it's the least controversial).
>>154088810Senpai I've never watched Lucifer on Netflix. I'm not sure what context you're accusing me of. But yeah, she definitely does. I'm surprised she didn't make Adam questioning or some shit
>>154088608Impossible. Rape is evil, and Adam, as far as we know, did not eat the apple. So he is incapable of evil. Thus, he could not rape.
>>154088674>>154088739Genuinely believing the version of the story written by Lucifer and Lilith the two responsible for the whole incident . A story which they tell their incredible naive daughter . No shit they're gonna paint themselves as glorious liberators and not incompetent morons messing with things beyond their understanding.
>>154088739That kind of narrative is my suspicion on why Lute wouldn’t be Eve. Eve would be someone that rejected what Lute wanted.
>>154088848Anon is talking about the DC Lucifer show in which Eve does not like Adam and instead runs off with a demon woman (one of Lilith's daughters iirc). Adam is portrayed as a boorish and self centred chud.
>>154088492guitarprincess CUTE
>>154088870'Adam demanded control.' Clearly, he was. Adam and Lilith were apparently made with full capacity for choice. Lilith wouldn't have been able to leave since it'd be seen as 'wrong'. It is in fact possible. Also, we actually don't know if he did or did not eat the apple. Him saying 'I've never made a mistake in my fucking life' is his ego.
>>154088883I wonder if they were using the apple to do other things before feeding it to Eve.
>>154088883That's a fair point.
>>154088925Genuinely the biggest reveal could be them not actually having touched the apple before and using Eve as a guinea pig to test it out.
>>154088900imo i don't think he did. it feels like she fucked up by taking the fruit, felt bad and now overcompensates a shit ton. 'Angels don't make mistakes' and Jessica saying Lute has a lot of trauma and she has a sympathetic reason to hate sinners. Lute is Eve trying to fix her mistake.
>>154088903Got it... That's funny since Sam Haft literally said Hazbin Adam is 'boorish and ignorant as a villain'
>>154088900This is the aspect I enjoy most about guitarspear in the context of Lute NOT being Eve: she wants Adam as he is, with his ego and his overbearing attitude. She even relishes the command structure between them. It would mean that Adam's not doomed to be lonely, he just hadn't met the right person who wouldn't chafe under him.
>>154088662Even without the extended cosmology of vivs loreblogging or hellofaboss we see explicitly that top tier overlords can't do shit against any ranked angel or even saved humans. The entire hell plot meant nothing off the rip and so are all future pride ring conflicts trying to get out of little league. I get viv wants to play with her OCs but how did she miss that it'd elevate the show for vox and all similar shenanigans to be treated big by their schemers but be a minor annoyance or at worst inadvertent monkey wrench to the neglected let's not get murdered to death by heaven/how does redemption work plots.
>>154088956desu that's kind of what it looks like. I would go so far as to say the apple/free will was made specifically after Lilith left the marriage, on account of Eve not being made as independent as Lilith or Adam.
>>154081659>She's 28 years old and is obsessed with roleplaying as Abel with her 29 year old St. Peter cosplay wife. Its fucking weird but that's the type of mentally ill person Viv attracts with this kind of pandering.That's wild given that we only found out about Abel becoming a character in the 2024 christmas post from the official twitter account. Granted, given that she kinda looks like Abel, I can see why she'd obsess over him much quicker than it would usually take to develop an obsession.
>>154088984It's worth noting that DC Adam never raped Eve though. Don't know what they meant by that.
>>154088995That's kinda weird bc Lute is literally just doing what Eve traditionally tends to do: she's subservient to Adam, 'craving her husband' and all that. Lute is literally just Eve. Even in the bible, when she is presented to him, he's all happy and excited when he gets a partner.
>>154088608this means lucifer and lilith gave eve the awareness to understand she's being raped and then willingly abandoned her to it (since hellborn are totally capable of visiting earth pretty much freely). misunderstood dreamers though.
idk why people pretend that guitarspear isn't Adam/Eve coded. Then they literally just describe an Adam/Eve dynamic. The irony is lost on a lot of guitarspear shippers
>>154088900Kinda doesn't make sense when she still stayed by Adam's side after the being kicked out of the garden. She had kids with the guy. If the apple truly gave her free will ( I still think free will part is complete bullshit) why would she not leave Adam. He couldn't possibly find her. Another weird fact is Adam doesn't get angry until Lucifer mentions Eve but has no reaction to Lilith. Mentions Ribs are his favourite. Despite all the misogynistic accusations he never says anything bad about his exe wifes. Lucifer straight up calls the Lilith duck a bitch and throws shade at her for not being around. He's more critical of Lilith than Adam so far.
>>154088913The way I see it is it’s not Adam’s fault for wanting control, that is part of his nature. The issue arose because the angels messed up and made Lilith a dom too, so both were fighting for control and neither would give it up. That’s why Eve became the mother of humanity, she was made to be the opposite of man, so they balanced each other out. The Man, the Father, the Provider, the Dominant. The Woman, the Mother, the Caregiver, the Submissive. Not in a bad way, just two halves of a whole that is Humanity.
>>154089048Instead of doing a convoluted three prong story where Eve was kind of a second Lilith and Lute is the willing partner why not just cut out the middleman and make Lute Eve
>>154089063But Lucifer and Lilith got banished after giving her the fruit? They literally couldn't do anything else. And right, *hellborn* can but Lucifer and Lilith aren't hellborn
>>154088903If Hazbin Adam had anything like this happen, I hope he flat out abandons Eve to her own devices.
>>154089071> why would she not leave AdamWhere the hell was she supposed to go? She was younger than Lilith and Adam and was probably less capable.
>>154088913>I've never made a fucking mistake in my life >HeavenCheck: True
>>154089089'hey asmodeus can you send someone to check up on eve please we're worried about her thanks' was never a thought in their minds. IMP makes an entire career off murdering humans in the human world. if they cared, they would've stopped adam.
>>154089079Bro I'm literally on Eve being Lute camp. I was just presenting a different scenario. People really hate Eve in this fandom. But I 100% agree with you. It'd be redundant to add yet another female character in relation to Adam that he wronged or some shit. Lilith already does that. We need someone who loved him. That's just Eve / Lute
>>154089071There’s plenty of fics of Lute being Eve. And barely any of them are avoiding the obviousness of Adam and Lute being arranged to be Adam and Eve. It’s just many of them don’t think Lute is Eve.
>>154089065It's not lost on me, it's just that if Hazbin Eve turns out not to have had a good relationship with Adam (it's possible, but we don't know the details) then it'd be up to Lute to have that dynamic that Eve traditionally has outside of Hazbin.
>>154089107Pick a direction and wander. How do you want to be an independent woman who needs no man if you can't do anything by yourself and have to rely on said man? You want freedom take it.
Viv made it clear she wants to criticize the Adam and Eve story for placing the blame on her. Meaning, she's not this evil witch some weirdos want her to be. Sam and Skye said Lute is 'feminine rage' and Jessica has been giving hints at an identity reveal with Lute. She was also confirmed to make it to Season Five. She's Eve
>>154086282I just want to see Emily and Sera wear something other than their formal wear.
>>154089148Really. I only read like 3 so far. They seem pretty rare. Then again it might just be a tagging issue ( most don't bother). Got any links?
>>154089153That's the thing, I do think she had a good relationship. Adam never talks shit about her. 'Ribs' are his favorite. Clearly they were ok.
'I have seen first hand the destruction demons have caused us, the threat they pose. I have lost so much, I have endured' while looking at her hand. She's talking about Charlie, Vaggie, Lucifer and Lilith there. Telling you, she's Eve
Ok, if Lute is Eve, does Sera know? Does the SoG know? I ask because neither seems to treat her as anyone important, and Sera gave Adam more deference in season 1 compared to how she reacts to Lute's sperging.
Adam and Abel can smell when women are ovulating
>>154089135People don’t hate on Eve without a reason. The narrative implies Eve left Adam on her free will. And the leaks implied she is disguised as Lilith and she didn’t even care Adam died. It’s not like they don’t portray her positively in their fanons. Canons and how they feel about them are a totally different picture.
>>154089178so long as their solution to 'it sucks that people blame eve for everything' isn't just the boring ass 'they should be blaming adam instead!' and critiques the system that created and forced this situation instead, this could work. could even make room for poor baby lucifer who did nothing wrong too to appease the ovivlord.
>>154089115Lute's face in this is peak
>>154089198I don’t pay attention to much fanfics. I stumble on them when I’m bored. I have seen some fanarts of happy Eve being with Adam and having some Roo corruptions despite being a winner.There’s plenty of toxic Roo Eve x Adam art. Which again, I don’t save or keep track of.
>>154089304You can tell if you the signs.
>eve blames herself for fall of man >Goes into hiding, cuts hair Or dies in now painful childbirth >McDies at some point >In heaven because actually good person who didn't renounce God.jpg >Sees Adam, dead by coronary after sin let into world and food made people fat >Lies about who she is >5980 years pass as Adams top guy under pseudonym and bobcut
>>154089424i'm pretty sure in most canons, adam dies first.
>>154089422What are the signs?
>>154089311People don't hate Eve in this fandom because there is nothing to hate. So far she is a nothing character. Two mentions yet both in S1. The story of hell and Lucifer's sex joke. That's all you have to work with. You can't even deduce shit because it not clear what is the truth and what is lies/delusion. People go with the Lute is Eve or Roo is Eve because otherwise there's nothing.
>>154089311They don't portray her as ANYTHING, dude. We don't shit yet.
>>154089520The most we can get is through Adam, where he's clearly pissed that Lucifer says stupid shit and where ribs are his favorite food. Would have been very easy for him to diss Eve, even figuratively. He doesn't. That, given with what Viv has said leads me to believe she's not evil. Not saying it's definite, but that's where the evidence points to.I have seen people like matpat say she's a devious whore that wants to destroy Adam or shit like that. It's retarded.
>>154089520>>154089311Also the leaks are old as shit and the wife swap probably got scraped because it was a mess of a plot. Adam's character was not established when wife swap was written. Her not reacting to his death was because he didn't die a second time in that version.
>>154089579Also also, the leaks never said Eve and Roo are the same person. So Eve being Roo is just a retarded ass take like Emily falling or Sinner Adam. It's not happening.
The shadow puppets are "noncanon" pilot material right? I think they're still stumbling people and probably viv herself up by conflating eve and Lilith.
>>154089592Charlie's book, you mean? It's unreliable, but I wouldn't say 'not canon'. We don't know what parts are true or not just yet
Let the stupid Rosie being Lilith being Eve in disguise being corrupted by Roo shit die already.
>>154089512Will be looking noticeable better compared to regular days. Better looking skin almost described as glowing. Lips slightly more colored. Higher body temperature than normal. You can also tell by checking the vaginal fluids. They will be milkier in color and more stringy. They will also be super horny.
>>154089520yeah it's genuinely so sad how nothing of a character she is. adamsapple fujos don't even bother pairing her up with lilith to clear the way, that's how irrelevant she is.
>>154089656and voraciously hungry and have ungodly shits.
>>154089678Adamapple fags love to say she's Evil and a whore and shit tho
>>154089575Adam straight up never talks badly about Eve or Lilith. I think that shows some of his character. The fact that Viv small uwu bean Lucifer is more disrespectful to both primordial women is definitely something.
>>154089575>>154089579>>154089590People hate her based on the leaks and that is a fact. It’s the closest thing they have to canon as we have now.
>>154089726lilith yes she gets the evil whore treatment a fuckload, but the most often i see eve mentioned is when lucifer's apologising for either having sex with her or for implying he did when he didn't and that's literally it.
>>154089731I suspect Lucifer would be making more awful experiences were supposed to wobbie him for.
>>154089737Yes, it's fact people hate her based on old leaks. and it's retarded. These are leaks that are several years old and by employees that talk shit on Viv and apparently didn't pay attention. If people think they're still canon, then they're brain dead.
>>154089678>>154089726Adamsapple fans are literally the most delusional fuckers on this earth. Even Radioapple is more believable and that ship make zero sense. These geniuses ship the equivalent of Valentino X Angel Dust exempt without comprehending how toxic it is. I'm glad Viv confirmed straight Adam so they are forced to jump ship.
>>154089788Jeremy said he's basically going to appear in every ep of season 3. more songs. yeahhh Lucifer haters will be miserable this season
>>154089784Honestly the most Lilith is an evil whore treatment comes from Radioapple shippers.
>>154089784that's fair, i've seen that too. must be the parts of the fandom i'm in then. Because the hate for Eve is ridiculous. we know NOTHING about her.
>>154089795hatefucking or forcefemcifer is fun though.
>>154089795>Adamsapple fans are literally the most delusional fuckers on this earth. Even Radioapple is more believable and that ship make zero senseYeah why is that? I thought AA started out as a joke ship, yet now its advocates are as delusional and defensive as RA shippers.
>>154089822Maybe he's written to be such a raging retard that this season becomes his humiliation ritual. I can only hope. Or Viv suffers full Fujo brain rot and makes him gay and be with Al.
>>154089296Look at how Sera treats her though. Like she's some reprimanded child she won't give more chances to. It's hella weird.
>>154089792I don’t see the leaks being non-canon with current Hazbin. Rosie is too relevant in making Alastor a guardian of Charlie and genuinely caring about her and the sinners she is with. A woman Charlie has never met in her life till season 1 episode 8. Alastor was also smiling really hard when Vox said he is going to be more powerful than Lilith, cause that will break Rosie’s capabilities on making Alastor the strongest sinner in Hell. The cannibals also have a statue of Lilith, Lucifer, and Charlie to imply it’s a part of Lilith’s domain
>>154089878I'm pretty sure she's been building up to Al/Lucifer. I think that's p obvious. Or at least some queerplatonic shit. and you know the fandom will run with it.
>>154089891The leaks don't fully align with current canon. The parts about Eve wanting revenge, targeting Lucifer and Charlie, wanting to destroy Heaven and Hell align with Lute -right- now.With Lilith in Heaven... Viv has spoken about her like she's the real Lilith on numerous occasions. and Viv is not good at hiding her own spoilers. she's too autistic / adhd for that shit. either she's gotten really good at lying or that legit is not a lilith impostor. It's just Lilith.Rosie being Lilith never really had any evidence outside the 'leaks'. esp with the way Faustisse described Lilith. Rosie's prototype character is Hilda from Zoophobia.
>>154089877Shipping non cannon/ not possible ships is dangerous because there are those who can comprehend that its never going to happen and those who genuinely believe the delusion. That how you get RA and AA communities. Some AA straight up believe Adam is coming back to be with Lucifer. The guy that did nothing but joke when he was fucking dying. The guy that ruined his life. The guy that mentioned his wifes in a inflammatory way specifically to piss him off and was probably going to kill him Charlie didn't intervene.
Do people still think Rosie saying the 'eating her first husband' shit meant adam? Did people forget Franklin lmao
>>154089296Counterpoint, why would they let her sperg out at them if she was just some low ranked angel Adam liked, even if he didn't know she wasn't just a random angel he liked. Abel is elevated over her for leading the paramilitary death squad they're not supposed to have, but there is still some hierarchical power or deference in how she's mis(treated)
>>154089967It's because Adam is in the closet / questioning, and he's clearly pissed because Lucifer wouldn't shag him in Eden. He's clearly thirsty for Lucifer /s
>>154089986Hope you're joking.
>>154089976Yeah that's the other weird shit. Why the fuck is she not terminated. Why does she get to remain second in command after her hysterical rants.
>>154090003I put /s for a reason anon. I'm being sarcastic. But those are legit arguments I've seen from retards
The only thing good about this series is Charlie, and you can't convince me otherwise
>>154090029Fuck that retarded bitch. She's so fucking stupid. Can't do shit right. I'd have left her too if I was her mom. Lilith should have gotten the abortion.Actually, if the theory that Lucifer made Charlie is true, then it makes so much sense why she's retarded.
>>154090024I know man. I was just double checking since I'm traumatized from dealing with them.
>>154090040The retard factor makes her cuter
>>154090040
>>154090029>The only thing good about this series is CharlieEmily's better
>>154090058That's fair and I respect that.
>>154089424Lute dykefags will deny this obvious information
>>154090073Emily is 10x better. I legit thought Emily's personality/character is what Charlie was going to be like.
>>154090102Lutefags are convinced she's a lesbian that wants Vaggie and that Adam raped her. They don't care to read any of the shit Jessica has to say about her. It's weird.
>>154089950You’re basically ignoring the particularities of Rosie at this point because you hate wifeswap too much. Vox’s words and Alastor’s reaction to them imply Lilith’s and Rosie’s power are at least of the same.
>>154090073The holy digits>>151637777
>>154090073>immediately supports redemption because it’s simply the right thing to do >unlike Charlie, who’s doing it to get her mothers attentionEmily is just so much better of a character, genuinely a good person.
>>154090133You mean Yurifags. Most normal Lutefags know she probably likes dick.
>>154090169No not at all, I do think Rosie is important. Viv has hinted at her being important. I just don't think she's Lilith.Why would Viv hype up Lilith, being all Queen-like, 'diva-ish' etc, announcing a VA. Jeremy and Erika have also spoken highly of Lilith and her singing. Why all the hype only for it to turn out to be not actually be Lilith. Also, just watching the show. Lilith is the only one that's getting calls from Charlie and Viv confirmed it was in fact Lilith that called Charlie, ergo, it's the real Lilith.
>>154090204Better voice, too
>>154090223admittedly, i have not encountered many normal luefags if that's the case.
>>154090265Finding anyone that likes a normal and healthy relationship is difficult in this fandom.
>>154090113>>154090204Especially after season 2, Emily and Sera are the Charlie and Vaggie that I'm actually invested in since I understand their motivations and relationship. Charlie never fucking listens to Vaggie, and while Sera will humor Emily up until a point, she'll still put her foot (we'll assume she has those) down when necessary, for example.It's a shame really, because Vaggie has the potential to be a really interesting character, yet as of right now like a lot of other people I'm left wondering why she even bothers with Charlie.
I need a retard gf like Charlie
>>154090328You need the patience of saint for that. Trust me it's not fun.
>>154090328Only Adams think like you
>>154090368>>154090372It's worth it
>>154090245Purposeful misdirection to not look at the Rosie in the room. The scene with Charlie on the phone implies the Lilith up there could see her by the eyes in the room. A kind of power I doubt the real Lilith could have.If it wasn’t for the leaks, I would think it was Roo herself disguising herself as Lilith to do that Roo eye spying thing.
>>154090407that's speculation, and again, Viv is fucking shit at covering up her own spoilers. she would have said shit by now, even if trying to be sneaky. Lilith is just Lilith.
>>154090405No, no it isn't. Doesn't matter how good the pussy is, you still have to not only live with her, but also go out in public with her.
>>154090458Good thing I'll have her on a leash
>>154090431Viv is good at not giving away a lot of details of her shows away till the official release. This merch drop of straight Adam and Abel is one of them.Some other writers are retarded enough to speak about returning dead characters and their interviews are completely cut off.
>>154090509That is very true to a point, but not enough. We'll just have to wait and see. Mind you, I used to believe in the whole swap nonsense, but I don't anymore on account of all the recent developments. We'll see how she'll fumble it either way.
>>154090546Without anything about theories or anything. I feel Lute would work the most as a character that has a unique start with Adam and a unique existence from Lilith and Eve to parallel and contrast the situations they’ve had.Lilith and Eve went to Hell. I would hope for a female character that did the good path instead despite being given the worst hand of the batch.
>>154090796Without my schizo Lute being Eve shit, I do agree. I like her being a third attempt at a wife / companion / whatever for Adam. Third's time the charm or whatever.
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