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Earth-11 edition

would story arcs like knightfall or the death of superwoman be the same or different?

i'd imagine wonder man's deal would be a total 180 in regards to his ethos.
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>>154056445
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>>154056445
>knightfall
Damefall, surely.
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>>154057847
we don’t get enough 63’d guys. Post more, please?
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Most Mr. Venom stuff is pretty old at this point, but have a Rambit
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>female Lizard
Yes, please
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>>154057847
Do not post Carls. especially that weird fetish version.
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>>154058079
Post more to piss off this anon in particular
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>>154057894

>>154058253
eh they're all old
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>>154056445
Back to OP, what is the masculine equivalent to Amazons Attack?
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>>154058911
Wasn't there one in Countdown? Where the WW equivalent was basically Gerard Butler's Leonidas
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>>154057966
Rambit sounds like the name of some combined Rambo/Roger Rabbit
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>>154056445
Does an Earth-3 version of Earth-11 exist too?
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>>154057894
Here's a boy.
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>>154061125
Jesus Christ why is Charles roided out?
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>>154058398
Emmet looks like a sex pest. Even shirtless would probably have better vibes.
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>>154063062
How will Fembalase spend 50k on softcore porn on him if he wasn't?
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>>154064638
really sexy, are you gear fae or just a fan?
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>>154065983
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>>154066003
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>>154066026
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>>154066044
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>>154064638
Love the implied transformation here.
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>>154065485
Except Fem Verbalase would be down for Cheerful Twink Charles, not Kronk Charles.
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>>154066044
Turns out Namor only chased after Sue 'cause she was the closest he could get to a female Cap.
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>>154064633
My personal view is that a Male Emma Frost would dress like how they dressed Gambit in Rivals.
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>>154056445
How the fuck do you introduce Damian?
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>>154058911
>is the masculine equivalent to Amazons Attack?
300?
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>>154064638
Magic Kid messing up again. You know, for a show were ghost are real and there is one kid with actual magical power he can't control there was pretty little magical shenanigans in Camp Camp.
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>>154056445
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>>154065708
Yes
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>>154069903
everyone wants femdip, but I want twink Mabel.
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>>154069903
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>>154056445
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>>154057894
I was thinking that two, unironically how would could any major studio make an episode without receiving death threats?
I guess just lukewarm tf? Like hard playing with gender roles seems like two much trouble
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>>154069903
delicious dipper, you should draw more Brad, she look so sexy in your style
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>>154069903
I hope that dextra miss physics thingy was done
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>>154071688
>guy character has argument with trans character
>Guy character gets hit with gender beam
>now biologically female, guy experiences gender dysphoria
>apologized to trans character and together they reverse it
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>>154072572
>now biologically female, guy experiences gender dysphoria
Why would you experience dysphoria if you got changed?
Your brain and it's chemistry would get changed too.
If anything it would make more sense that he'd just want to turn back because being so much weaker than he's used to would fucking suck.
Literally a significant power nerf.
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>>154072708
Thats is still part of gender dysphoria, and it's not trans exclusive experience.
Things like a guy feeling as less of a man for being too short or weak also applies as gender dysphoria.
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>>154072760
I'm not talking about "feeling less of a man."
I'm talking about literally just not being able to do what you normally can.
Like having your feet tied together. It doesn't make you feel less, it's just fucking annoying, because you know how being able to use your legs normally feels.
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>>154072760
>Things like a guy feeling as less of a man for being too short or weak also applies as gender dysphoria.
Thats feeling inferior or at least self- consious about their image. Body dysmorphia is more like it.
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>>154069647
Since the Hellfire club had halfway uniforms by gender where the outfits were similar, I'd assume he'd wear a white suit. But something like you suggested is good for later on unique ones.
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>>154072347
Sadly no, I didn't saw the point in doing it as someone already commissioned the golden bikini thing first.

>On the other side.
I finished this idea that I couldn't bring myself go finish for some time.
https://files.catbox.moe/hznlrl.png
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>>154063062
This is what men looked like before seed oils.
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>>154058398
Why are his dawgs out?
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>>154073163
Male corsets don't cover the chest.
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>>154072882
>https://files.catbox.moe/hznlrl.png
perfect midriff
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>>154072882
if you're open to requests, consider Brad in the following https://files.catbox.moe/jl3myl.jpg
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I am stricken with a desire for Female Clone Troopers and their suitable variants.
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>>154069903
Braces are underated
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>>154058398
I think you can do better that just give him Emma's outfit, DC has it fair share of guys in skimpy outfits.
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>>154075081
This one looks pretty Emma esque.
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>>154072882
I like the Xbox boothbabe outfit.
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Also, someone that requested Dipper in lingerie.
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>>154073192
Corsets only exist to accentuate the female form. "Male corset" is an oxymoron.
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>>154056445
>Aqualady
I would do anything lads
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>>154076348
Corsets for men have been in style multiple times throughout history, most notable during the early 1800s.
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>>154077544
I really like the confident short guy, embarrassed girl who still goes with it Combo. Would be funny if next morning the end result looks like this.
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>>154056445
So why doesn't Wonder Guy show as much skin as Wonder Woman?
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>>154072882
Pretty good stuff.
Ever thought about doing anything for the AF/UA or Omniverse variants of Ben?
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>>154079202
You want him to?
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>>154079202
Based on the design I think it's modeled after her early New52 costume where she had pants.
But yeah he could easily have had exposed arms.
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>>154057894
Like this?
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Wanted to do some dial art even if that concept is kind of dead
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>>154057894
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>>154070403
>>154081224
Unf
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Quick question (probably should ask here and not the mighty max thread)
What would be better for gender bend mighty maxs villains
>Big tiddy monsters
>Petite cute girls
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>>154070403
Fuuuck
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>>154082253
the petite and the big tiddy need to fuck with a double dildo
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>>154075619
Nice
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>>154079273
>Ever thought about doing anything for the AF/UA or Omniverse variants of Ben?
Yes, but nothing specific comes to mind, just wanted to draw the variants.

>>154073914
>if you're open to requests,
Ok but I'll start with that tomorrow.
Also someone requested a sequence tranformation for the barbarian Dipper? I remember reading it but couldn't find the post.
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>>154083292
>I'll start with that tomorrow.
no problem, amazing robbie dress.
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>>154081141
Hell yeah, nice to see this again, good stuff anon.
I still think it was a good idea, it just didn't have enough people rallying behind it to last, but it was nice while it lasted.
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>>154080492
Yea.
Semi related
We need art of Miss Information messing with Male Kit
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>>154081141
>>154083655
Unlike HoneyBee or Thong squad very few artist got interest on the idea. Maybe three or four, me included, did any OCs of the idea, Any has some request for old time sake?
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>>154082253
For the 90s comicbook esque style of Mighty Max I say a big titty villains feels more at home in that setting.
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>>154083655
>>154085207
Still in a bit of a dial mood and drew the mime
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>>154085890
Link wasn’t working, sorry
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>>154085974
Mainly did “” around the her since she kind of both is and isn’t the joker at the same time
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>>154083292
Hot boycifica
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>>154056445
ftm ideas?
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>>154084909
The way you draw chubbiness is godly. You ever consider drawing Timantha with a soft mom bod?
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>>154086911
More Mr. Marvels and/or Venoms to piss off this anon in particular >>154058079
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>>154085890
That is a pretty funny Joker picture.
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>>154077952
You've been guzzling cum multiple times throughout history, most notably right now.
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>>154086911
What about a girl wishing to get a beach body for the summer but whatever force grants her wish turns her into one of those big beach hunks?
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>>154087851
>role-reversed Beach Bummed with boy!Trixie and Timantha
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>>154087059
The symbiote shouldn't have a gender to begin with. Comic book writers were a mistake.
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>>154072760
>Things like a guy feeling as less of a man for being too short or weak also applies as gender dysphoria.
This is so retarded.
Whoever came up with this is just a straight up idiot and a groomer.
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>>154087623
Never can get enough FemAang
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>>154056445
Remember when the Mayor became a Hooker?
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>>154056445
This is evil tranny kike garbage. That I am going to destroy on Mobius with the Freedom Fighters.
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>>154086911
Gwen
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>>154086911
Choose the most obnoxious feminist character and turn her into a man, depending on the character the reaction can change, some might keep the same other get corrupted by it.
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>>154081141
>>154085974
Good stuff, maybe I'll draw something as well once I'm less busy.
>>154085207
How about swapped GL?
I remember the idea of her being a timid and weak-willed femcel that's powered by her own fears to make smoke-based "constructs", with some design inspiration from Hal's time as the Spectre.
Alternatively, just Viral in your style, don't think you've drawn him before.
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>>154088781
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>>154085207
If I can request Kala the Sorceress art, I'd appreciate it.
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>>154085207
What about the Wonder Woman version of this, to stay on topic? If I recall it was a Macho Man parody, forget the name though.
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>>154092167
FemAang and FemZuko are truly amazing
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>>154056445
Japan is leaving the west in the dust in their gender bending content. What can the west do to "close the gap"
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Love genderbent Superwoman. Especially the versions with black hair and trunks
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>>154083292
God, I need more of that pacifica
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>>154092722
The west doesn't even show cleavage in cartoons anymore, even adult ones.
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>>154092722
I sadly think direct gender benders won't be able to be done well without any drama for at least a decade outside of things like Earth-11 or other R63 concepts where the swap is just the normal status quo (Think the Amazing Honey-Bee for a equivalent /co/ made). It'd probably be best just to expand on/make more concepts like that in order to be able to put out gender bender art without any kind of drama starting
>>154086911
What if MTF characters have a focus on broad shoulders, abs, and biceps, since that's what the female gaze seems to focus on? Would be interesting to see the whole gender bender include fanservice outfits getting swapped.
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>>154086911
Susan and Mary Test developing some kind of reverse hottie body flakes and using it on themselves.
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>>154083292
>Yes, but nothing specific comes to mind, just wanted to draw the variants.
The Omniverse director confirmed a sex switch function. Maybe OV/UA Ben taking advantage of it for girls discounts?
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>>154073914
Ok, now I can start with the requests.

>Milf Dipper getting smacked
>Brad in the following

>Also as extra some commission I just finished.
https://files.catbox.moe/s5otkv.png

>And a stupid idea I had with Nora being expected to die after her pregnancy.
https://files.catbox.moe/i9mf2u.png
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>>154092722
Can you and your people stop sucking asian cock for 5 minutes
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Rick not being an asshole to a morty.
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>>154096628
>Rick not being an asshole to a morty.
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>>154057894
Found this pic on R34 a few weeks ago, I though it was weird the first lewd pic I found from that Y2K short was ftm R63 of the main character and the funny thing is the first comment below that pic was another guy saying that exact same thing.
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>>154096436
boycifica making Dipper blow him but dipper is naked
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1474099445988589743/1512916196222173275/post_blow_job.png?ex=6a267d41&is=6a252bc1&hm=d4c83414416fb09f784501d0331ad4dcf6f82aacb02b2db1081c2c7ed8257f0c
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>>154056445
It's a damn shame Earth-11 isn't expanded on more since in the Canon it's supposed to be a reality where the Amazon's decided the best defense is a good offense and enforced/spread their ideals onto the world. That basically means it's not a gender swap in the traditional sense of "characters are other sex", but likely a reverse gender role world too.

I think I also remember that Earth-11 doesn't line up fully one to one map wise as well, with some different cites and countries having bigger roles on their world then in ours. So it probably has a bunch of alternative history stuff too would could be fun to explore.
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>>154097371
Nah, that is the thing is pretty inconsistent, basically depends of the writers, some of the them treat it as a R63 earth, others treat it as a weird alternate history.

The alternate history makes little sense though, because why would things be so similar to other earths if the Amazons changed history so far away in the past? Also why would the aliens be female too if the difference is historical more that reality just flipping everything.
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>>154096436
Requesting F marco in a wet t-shirt contest
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>>154097433
I think it's a mix of both: everyone's gender is already swapped in the universe, and the reason why Earth has a matriarchal society is because the Amazon's chose violence.
>The alternate history makes little sense though, because why would things be so similar to other earths if the Amazons changed history so far away in the past
It's probably because the concept was made using the historical inevitablity idea, and its more like "Themyscira replaced the role of another nation in history which led to matriarchy". My best guess is something like Macedonia and Alexander, and then shit just follows a roughly similar timeline except for some cosmetic shit.
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>>154096436
awesome thighs, thanks.
https://files.catbox.moe/i9mf2u.png
really sexy Nora, love the big pink lips and pregnancy art
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>>154092583
Her domming Jimmy Olsen would be pretry hot ngl
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>>154096436
That is a hot Milf Dipper there.
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>>154095717
>The Omniverse director confirmed a sex switch function.
When did that happen? Give me your sources please.
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>>154100575
>https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/ben10/images/b/b2/Omnitrix_Can_Change_User%27s_Gender.PNG/revision/latest?cb=20200602141854
Forgot that Wyatt was NOT a director, but he had a lead role. So that counts for something!
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>>154069903
>>154069971
>>154075619
Why would femDipper have massive sweater puppies when his twin sister is flat?
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>>154056445
Aquawoman has been to mainline DC Earth before with the Justice League Incarnate.
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Can't tell if I simply like Loona regardless of her equipment, or if I'm just a bifag.
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>>154101242
Wolves with a little hair on top is a good design.
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>>154101039
Because Guys turned girls having bigger assets than the actual girls is ironic and funny.
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>>154101636
And hot.
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>>154101636
This is true
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>>154069873
>*puts a gun to your chest and calls you big guy*
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>>154103554
4 U
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>>154101636
It do be like that on this earth.
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Oh, another genderbender thread?
BetterTHINK FAST
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>>154103888
Who drew this
>>154103220
And this
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What's your preference and why:
The whole cast gets genderbent
Or just a single character (or a couple but not all of them) get genderbent
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>>154105265
The Danny Phantom one is by Omiiverse

>>154105597
>Or just a single character (or a couple but not all of them) get genderbent
This, it's much more interesting to see how things change when it's just one or a few characters, "everyone changes" just tends to be the same, but reverse genders
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>>154085207
Mime finding out what she was like in her old life
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>63 thread
Oh fuck nice
>>154105206
Small silly doodle lol
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>>154081141
>>154085974
Cool to see new Dial art. As someone who wrote green for the Dial Crisis idea when it was made, I liked the idea to where I legit sat down and planned out a plot for it, but since a new thread hasn't popped up in a while the only part I wrote out was the opening section of how the Dial gets damaged and a part in Gotham. I figure I'll post it now since it's come up in the thread to see what you all think of it I guess.

Part 1 Opening: nwwko
Part 2 Gotham (Unfinished): nmnf6

I used justpaste.it, I don't want to flood the thread with it.

>>154083655
>>154085207
If i remember right, it was less that it was unpopular and more like anons couldn’t fully agree on the exact full extent and style of the gender swap. So it's still a cool idea that I think anons would still like to talk about, but it just got bogged down in specifics for some reason.

As for a requests, maybe Madame Butterfly stealing something, or teasing Commissioner Gordon? Your choice.
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>>154108010
>A dud?!
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>>154108010
Need to see her getting his own pants banana.
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>>154108683
Was expecting it to bounce back to her, yeah
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>>154108683
>>154109058
>bounce back to her, yeah
FCUK
IM STEALING THAT LATER
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>>154100575
>>154100971
>Ben turns himself into a girl for a discount
>The Omnitrix, being a troll, hides the function to change back from him
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>>154109823
>Starts doing it for bits and discounts
>Realizes they get some anonymity, a chance to duck from the attention since since few people recognize them like this
>Starts switching over in his free time just to get some peace
>Doesn't want to admit that the reason it might not let him is because he's enjoying it a bit too much
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>>154097039
I like to think that Rick would be slightly less of an asshole if Morty was a girl.
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>>154090604
Genderrbend is actually anti-tranny as it shows what they haven't achieved.
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>>154110392
we would have a bald morticia episode
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Should the GF dipper dnd stuff be expanded on further or should it be retconned into a barbarian thing?
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>>154097205
>Sketch
https://files.catbox.moe/6amcw6.png

>Non related pic to catch the eye.
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>>154111541
>beinc a girl is easy
>beinc
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>>154111614
we all make typos
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>>154111541
the sketch looks great
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>>154111091
>Should the GF dipper dnd stuff be expanded on further or should it be retconned into a barbarian thing?
Can you give me a explanation of both?
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>>154111614
I don't know what bothers me the most, making the typo or the fact that this has been posted 3 days and I sent it to 3 different persons before posting it and no one noticed before.

>>154111091
It's literally just one pic that has dialogue so there's not much to retcon. But I'll admit I didn't think much about it at the time cause it was just an excuse to draw characters in dnd stuff.

If I had to re-think it I'd like to add Robbie as the Thief, Gideon as the priestess and Pacifica as a Manotaur.
I'm not sure if Bill is still a good option for Dm or maybe having one of the other characters is better to make it more fun.
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>>154111614
>>154111640
See, nobody would have pointed that out if Ben was a girl.
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>>154108010
>>154108298
>A dud?!
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>>154109823
For how often OG Ben would just shove screw drivers at the Watch I wouldn't be surprised if the GB mode was something he activated once as an accident and didn't even knew how he did it.
Cue montange of girl Ben desperately doing everything she did before but in reverse, was it the screw driver, was it soaking it on water?, how many times did I hit it with the tin can to make it bulge a little?
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>>154111750
Could be worse of Dipper, instead of D&D they could be playing Corruption of Champions
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>>154110392
Is he less of an asshole to Summer?
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>>154097126
Why is there so much art of her as a dude?

>>154111541
>https://files.catbox.moe/6amcw6.png
For some reason this pic took forever to load completely and and it gave me the impression Dipper was going to be a reverse trap.
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>>154056445
It's sad knowing the only relevant Rule63 thread is Helluvaverse threads
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>>154112195
>>154112195
Knowing how the episodes go, they would have to stay a girl for a while because the gimmick of whatever bad guy they're fighting only affects boys.
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>>154113006
I'm not sure how you zoomers think this site is supposed to work.

But being honest modern r63 threads are pretty crap. Its just people begging for art and gearfae carrying it on his back. The moment he stops the threads are over.

Back in the day there was actual "what if" discussion on these threads and greentext. I have gathered a small mountain of new r63 art, but I wonder ehy bother because the thread revolves mainly about some random who is into venom and traps.
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Also, i preffer simple stuff over complicated crap or perhaps i just don't like Gravity Falls GS except Robbie, Fae draw more of her pls
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>>154113077
It doesn't help that any at length discussion runs the risk of getting hijacked by deranged anti-trans and their retarded bullshit. Even the ones on /aco/ got derailed.

props to Gearfae for sticking it out though.
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>>154113077
A mix of fandoms being more fragmented that ever not having a "thing" that everyone has in common anymore makes the subject gravitate to stuff that everyone watched on TV when we were young, also less people in this board being into comics anymore all this things mean there is less of a common ground to talk about and generate ideas.

That being say, I believe you need to be the change you want to see, share your topic and see if other anons want to join in, even if no one anwers at least you tried.
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>>154113270
No, you are part of the problem. You are being the tranny whiteknight right now when nobody brought it up. Then you are going to play victim.
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>>154110357
>"Hey, the only reason there are more girl's clothes in my closet is because is because girls just have more clothes Gwen!"

....Though this does give me the mental image of this slowly shifting into a double secret identity of sorts. People notice the guy turning into aliens every now and then, and rumors spread, no one notices the girl turning into a boy before confronting the villain and then transforming into an alien though
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>>154113453
Got me there!
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>>154113526
>Shoujo Optimus
That's fine, but I like my alien robots more.
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>>154113077
Maybe we should talk more about the scenarios and universe's we've made like Honey-Bee? Like, how would Peter react when he wakes up as Petra and what he would do with the radically different status quo she finds herself in, and storyline that would play out in those universe's that have a bigger focus in the gender swap part of it.
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>>154113557
At least with Shoujous, there's plenty of options to make it work. Pretender forms, holomatter avatars...
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>>154113601
I suppose, but my robofucker biases take precedent unfortunately.
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>>154105597
Single or a couple characters
I think the perfect gender bend episode would be
>Gender swapped characters are voiced by new actors of said gender doing an impression of the previous VA
>Plays HEAVILY into gender differences, but the target isn't someone who was like androgynous/femboy/tomboy
>Maybe pernanent, or like a version of them got stuck in a different universe or some shit
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>>154113660
I'd call myself a robotfucker too! But the notion of an alien machine bringing itself down to the level of humans scratches an itch.
Your Autobot friend Optimus wants to be there for you at a human occaision but shows up looking like picrel, acting all buddy buddy, and leaves your family wondering when you got a girlfriend.
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>>154113822
Whatever works for you in the end, but I wouldn't be opposed to that either.
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>>154113591
>Maybe we should talk more about the scenarios and universe's we've made like Honey-Bee?

I think this is a sympton of the threads sucking, rather than anything else. The reliance of gimmicks like the fighting game thing/butterfly vilain batman thing, or characters being so different from the original that they have nothing to do with them is a sign that the subject of the thread is not carrying it.
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>>154113472
Easier to slip in and out of a crowd when everybody is looking for a boy dressed one certain way. Assuming his closest friends are let in on things, it's easier to drum up a cover story. Embrace a cover identity that lets them experience some normalcy.
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>>154113962
>>154113472
>>154110357
Them who?
Also this is missing a lot of his actual character. Ben is a guy that fucking loves attention, wnats to be the center of it, and loves being famous and actually demands to be even more famous when possible. He using the watch to get away from it, then going tranny over it (which is what you are implying 154110357, I know) is rather forced.

If Ben gets stuck as a girl, he will think its very humiliating. Unless he can get an advantage using it, or use it to mog Gwen (but Gwen will flip it over and make fun of him for it). If you want Ben girling it up, you are better of using hypnosis, magic or "staying in this form messes his mind just like ghostfrek/big chill/rath" than your projection.
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>>154113591
>>154113077
>>154113295
>you need to be the change you want to see, share your topic and see if other anons want to join in, even if no one anwers at least you tried.
Alright then, why not. Since the OP is Earth-11, let's discuss that for a bit.

So per what DC multiverse lore has said, Earth-11 is both a gender swapped Earth where the Amazon's pushed their ideals on it (Probably written so the writers could explain why women are in the majority positions of power on it). Sadly since comic writers don't give a damn about anything outside of surface level stuff, the fact they haven explored what is essential a matriarchal Earth with reversed gender roles is criminal.

My idea to expand on this canon is that instead of a full take over, the Amazon's of Earth-11 start out by acting like a normal Greek city states and allying like-minded places like Lesbos and stuff, eventually building up to becoming their world's equivalent of the Macedonia Empire under Alexander the Great. This is where they force their matriarchal ideals then and causing those not under them to adopt similar one to try and match their success, but they still collapse. I'm not sure what the modern Earth-11 is culturally like, even if it's roughly the same map wise. Any ideas?
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>>154114619
>I'm not sure what the modern Earth-11 is culturally like, even if it's roughly the same map wise. Any ideas?

The few issues I've read (Green Latern) everything seem to be the same technology,cities,countries, but gender reversed, Star Saphire (R63 Hal) mentions the story of La Quixota so even their fictional characters are the same but reversed.

There are some inconsistencies depending on who writes the book, in some is a simple gender flip, in others the mantle belongs to a different character. Don't recomend reading Green Lantern the design are atrocious.
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>>154114971
Eh, its half shitpost that Morisson wrote. There is no point in trying to analyze it historically. Most stuff there is just flipped, or characters exchanged, so everything would still be mostly the same with a different skin. The world history being radically different would defeat the purpose of it working as a "mirror dimension with only sex swaped".

Also Lesbos was still a patriarchal society, and it's assossiation with lesbianism was an old world meme because of a single poet. It was "feminist" by Athens standarts because they allowd women to leave home and hold jobs, but that's it. It's possible, tho not registered, that in some circles older women would sleep with their underage students to prepare them for marriage, in the same way that oldmen did on the rest of Greece with boys.

This is why genderswaping an entire universe is not as fun as just choosing certain characters - you just end up with "same stuff". People might like Earth 11 character X or Y because its character X or Y, but not because of the "lore" of the dimension.

Here is a counter proposal: How different would Marvel/DC have been if its respective characters were CONCEIVED as the opposite sex? Keping in mind how women were writen at the time of their creation - and how comic market would have affected them since. We don't need to do a full universe rewrite either.

Maybe think how superheroes would have shaped up if only Superman was Superwoman - or if Batman had been a woman. Would people still insist that he and Robin have "sexual undertones" if Batwoman was taken care of Robin? Or would t be seem as "motherly"?
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>>154114971
Seems like it depends a lot on the writer a lot if it's just a direct swap with slightly different ancient history or a whole semi-alternative timeline. A shame, I think it be a bit cooler with the second since it's a bit more interesting and gives some more meat to explore even if it's just a few differences (bigger Themyscira, pagan religions still exist, counties have some different names). Like, France keeps the name Gallia and had a bigger Celtic population or something due to Rome having Themysciran influence or something, but keeps its role.
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>>154115104
I could see Batwoman really being the only one to work in the 30s, but a lot of the villians we know either would be radically different or one that are B to D listers would outright replace the A listers. Like, Catwoman would probably outright drop off to a C-lister at best after a while cause she'd basically be a female Catman a few decades earlier.

A Batwomen in the Silver Age would be way different and that maternal aspect would be ramped up to 11 for sure though.
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>>154115166
>>154115104
Funny enough I can see WW unchanged while being a guy - rather she would become a self insert to her creator. The weakness to be tied up by the opposite sex might even remain to this day because it wouldn't be carrying the burden of being a "strong woman". His tag line would be something like "the first man in a lost island of women".

Superman gets tricky, because he is the quintessential super hero and changing him would be a huge butterfly effect. IF Superwoman remains popular it might either evolve into a girl focused "Archie" comic, create an age of waifufag culture on USA (if it remains targeted to boys/men) or who knows. It would certainly create more female heroes in her footsteps.
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>>154115104
Sapho of lesbos was so thirsty for women that it made the name of her island the woed of women liking women.
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>>154112361
>it gave me the impression Dipper was going to be a reverse trap.
DAMM, that could have been a good plotwitst too.

>>154113077
>in the day there was actual "what if" discussion on these threads and greentext.
I liked that idea Zurco had of taking an episode of a series and seeing how things would change if you turned it into a Gender Swap episode. It gives a good ground for a plot to keep and not just make it a repetition of other episdoes like that.

>>154113295
>A mix of fandoms being more fragmented that ever not having a "thing" that everyone has in common anymore makes the subject gravitate to stuff that everyone watched on TV when we were young.
True, also doesn't help that most adult cartoon series feel more grounded (BoJack Horseman, F is for family, Tear along the dotted line, etc) , so they don't really give much idea of how to introduce the subject, it'd feel out of place in any other way than a typical r62 universe.
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>>154115406
>a girl focused "Archie" comic
I'm trying to think of a IRL equivalent because that sounds cool.
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>>154115497
Ngl I can see a more interventionist Amazon's basically trying to put Sapho in charge during some random war. Would be pretty funny if it wound up a major power in ancient Greece through sheer simping cause of that.
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>>154113822
IMO fembot is better than girl with robot accessories
Also makes more sense in the context of R63, the other just makes me think "So.... That's a teleoperated drone body or something?"

>>154114082
>Also this is missing a lot of his actual character.
This is true, I was going off the assumption of the original suggestion, but Ben is the sort who wouldn't want to hide himself

That said
>Unless he can get an advantage using it, or use it to mog Gwen (but Gwen will flip it over and make fun of him for it)
I do generally prefer this, both him mogging Gwen and Gwen firing back at him, feels the most 'organic' Ben becoming a girl situation

>>154115506
>True, also doesn't help that most adult cartoon series feel more grounded (BoJack Horseman, F is for family, Tear along the dotted line, etc) , so they don't really give much idea of how to introduce the subject, it'd feel out of place in any other way than a typical r62 universe.
It does slightly annoy me that you kinda have to go for anime if you want more out there adult cartoons, does kinda limit it to the more usual susspects
That said I'd be lying if said I didn't like said usual suspects in the context of R63
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>>154115588
Mayne the Betty & Veronica comics would be the equivalent, but with superpowers?
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>>154108141
Good read, would love to see part 2 get finished
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>>154115166
A woman trying to be scary would be more of a ghost that a bat demon.
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>>154115110
I feel the world be way different if a race of inmortal Helenic female warriors decided to very publicly influence the world for centuries.
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>>154069761
Talia stole some eggs and Damien is a test-tube baby grown in an artificial womb
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I've been reading the Uncanny X-men 2014 and just wanted to mention this guy that randomly transform into the person closest to him. He constantly turns into girls in the background and no one seems to mind.

>>154113270
>It doesn't help that any at length discussion runs the risk of getting hijacked by deranged anti-trans and their retarded bullshit
That only happens if you respond to them and not just ignore them. They just want attention so ignoring them is the only solution.
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>>154113006
>Vagathon
Missed opportunity to call him Dick.
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>>154116563
Going off some things I read on wiki's Earth-11 does call Earth itself Gaea and the universe Pankosmos, so there's some deeper Helleinic influences moreso than our Roman-Hellenic influences that Prime Earth has. I would have to guess that infighting and interbreeding with non-Amazons probably allowed the non-immortal females of Earth-11 to push back against them to set up their own version of various countries and empires of our own world.
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>>154115110
>>154116563
>Point of divergence is that Themyscira goes on a conquering spree for reasons during the time of the Greeks
>To the point it's called the time of the Themyscirans in that universe and they're considered the foundation of western civilization
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Hold up i thought all of this was just us all having fun and playing make belive with each other. That and gooning.
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>>154115104
>its half shitpost that Morisson wrote.
Hopefully because I'm no fan of Ms. Terrific Design.
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I'm down for some requests since I have a couple of upcoming free days. Hit me.

Also, does anyone happen to have Zurc's Sonic drawing from the last thread saved?
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>>154117048
>Themyscira not only pulls off Alexander's conquests, but goes further, getting into India and setting up Greek colonies in Sicily and Southern Gaul earlier than in our own timeline
>But even though they're immortal they're still human, and the collapse of the Themysciran Empire happens like Alexander's of our timeline.
>But since their conquests went even further than Alexander's, not only are they considered the founders of western civilization but non-western nation adapt their matriarchal ideology because of there success
>matriarchal societal structure not only is considered the civilized kind of society, its what everyone considers the most successful type on Earth-11
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>>154117778
Maid mary tgtf sequence, the convict turned into the character from powerpuff girls
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>>154117778
Kala the Sorceress domming Jimmy Olsan.
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>>154117778
>Hit me
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>>154117884
Yeah but they are still inmortal, it would be pretty weird for the USA to have political relation with the still living ancient conquerors of earth.
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>>154117778
What if Batman was a Gothgirl?
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>>154117778
Always been fond of Danny Phantom, but I don't have specific ideas other than some vague idea of Danny becoming a ghost genie or something


>>154118661
Nta, but to be honest, I kinda find that the most interesting part of that idea
You have a state that practically half the world is, or at one point tried to, emulate the heights of, because for most of history they were the people everyone else looked up to. How does that affect things?
That they're all immortal amazons with a culture of femdom is just icing on the cake I'll admit, but not something I want to overpower the rest of it, because it's a very interesting question imo
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I still really want to explore the idea of cloning similar to Ultimate Spider Woman. A opposite gender clone with all of the memories of the original
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>>154117884
This actually gave me a slightly divergent idea.
>Alexander’s conquests still happen
>Alexander’s empire and the Amazons fight each other until both eventually collapse, leading to great advances from both
>this leads to the idea that civilizations need to be paired and that the most successful model is for a matriarchal and patriarchal civilization to be “married” in equal rivalry
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>>154118867
Who's clone?
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>>154058398
>Not covering his nipples
Sexist double standard, perverts!
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>>154118805
The, they probably do collapse due to infighting, so it's likely Themyscira would at best control only Greece & maybe Anatolia, with a bunch of successor states in Egypt and Persia lasting until they also fall. Either way there's a much more Hellenized world left afterwards, and the whole warrior women and only female leaders would be the baseline at that point for sure
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>>154115506
do i need to wait for a crossdressing thread to request Fred jones? i can wait but i need to see him, there are so few arts of him..
draw her like this peach
https://files.catbox.moe/5j96jm.jpg
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>>154120739
one more reference
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>>154113077
Dang I only posted one Venom pic
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>>154117778
very cute tails, anon



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