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Hey Magister, as the guy doing this storytime >>154031363 I hope I'm not going to be stepping on your toes when I get to doing the Araña stuff which I think will be about another week or so. I have no idea if you'd planned on doing that or how long it'll take you to eventually get to 2004.
>>154087367>the Araña stuffI don't know what that means, so go for it I guess
>>154087411By that I mean her debut in Amazing Fantasy and her subsequent ongoing. Given that you did Slingers in these threads I figured you were doing the spinoffs too.
>>154087709>Dallas.jpg
Back in the simulation tank
>>154087823>daredevil looking the right wayTssk!
Blonde?
>>154087214I didn't think we'd get this kind of clean up so soon.
>>154087559I'm like 90% sure The Thing, Ironman and Cap can all sue them. Although I would LOVE to see Thor take them to court.
>>154087709>>154087823Well, that dramatic tension broke quickly.
>>154088178I'm actually shocked that they let DeFalco reference the baby in a 616 comic again
>>154087931The messed up thing is that we will one day have a status quo that's almost this. Sure it will be when Sins Past happens, but still.
>>154087162Marrow was mentioned last time. I hope she shows up again.
>>154088757The Marrow book is either next thread or the thread after that
>>154088066>they all get recycled eventually We haven't seen Blackie Drago for a while.
>>154088784That sounds right
>>154088283This would have been a perfect fake out if we hadn't already seen JJJ in this story.
>>154088651The baby that is still alive because they forgot to wrap that up.
>>154088916>they forgot to wrap that up.They never had any intention of wrapping it up
The EndSo Quentin Beck is definitely dead for real.Tomorrow we're back to one of our mainline titles, and that Marrow book anon wants
>>154088941Shame Maguire Beck never came back since she's got a sexy design plus with Quentin being alive again, them teaming up as villains could've been fun.
>>154088936Having the baby bet kidnapped and us never finding out where it is kinda comes across as a plot thread that feels like there was some kind of intention for.
>>154088969That.... Didn't answer anything other than Madjack.
>>154088969Thanks for storytiming, Magister!>>154089018Clearly you weren't reading the behind-the-scenes stuff that was getting posted in that thread. The writers were directly instructed to dangle that plot thread and never bring it up ever again.
>>154089018I vividly remember all the little bits and story elements that Bob Harras absolutely insisted had to be in the "Revelations" story line. Among them was the sequence where the Parker baby is apparently delivered to Alison Mongrain, and Norman Osborn tells her to make sure it's never seen again.Some of us on the editorial staff (myself included) absolutely disagreed with this sequence being included, because it raised a question that shouldn't have been raised. We strongly felt that the baby story line should have a clean, clear, definitive ending, and that there should be no lingering doubts or mysteries about the baby's status. If the baby's dead, then let's say the baby's dead and move on. I remember discussing this matter with Harras, and his response was that his way of ending the baby story line "gives hope to the readers who have been waiting for the birth of the baby, it lets them believe that the baby is still out there somewhere, alive, and maybe Peter will find her someday. It'll keep them coming back."The problem with that was that there was NEVER going to be a resolution. In fact, Harras said that he didn't want the baby referred to again once the Clone Saga was over. He even wanted it established in the first post-Clone Saga issue, SPECTACULAR SPIDER-MAN #241, that six months had elapsed since the end of "Revelations, " so we could just skip over Peter and Mary Jane's mourning period and show that they were pretty much back to normal and Spider-Man was his old, wisecracking self again. Harras wanted the Spider-Man books to move on and away from the Clone Saga as quickly as possible… but he also wanted to play with readers' expectations.
I think Mysterio should make Daredevil and Spider-Man turn gay for each other as joke haha
>>154089070How about I get a hobo to dangle a cock in front of Harras and he has to sit there like chinese water torture as the bum's cock sways over his face? How's that for playing with his expectations? Yes a bit dramatic I know but yeah this Harras guy might as well been Brevoort before Brevoort for cheapening everything the vain hope that this somehow is not seen through as an exploitation of fans who actually liked the product you created. Sounds very jewish to me. Like you put out joy to the world and then you seek to exploit people because you find making other people happy to be too much pressure and you want to be a lazy piece of shit.
>>154088027JJJ sure loves making supervillains to get at Spider-Man.
>>154088747The power of love!>>154088756And drugs.
>>154088724I believe some decade from now we'll have something back to it as well, albeit possibly Aunt May will finally be taking the Alfred long death break she's been overdue. So just the Spider-Family the character should have had since the 90's, before the artistic coup and the brain trust that brought the clone saga started its decades long tantrum.We just need a new editorial, new writing team, new talent, an entire new office and damnatio memoriae on the BND mandate.So, maybe two decades. Assuming Marvel Comics division hasn't just had its head decapitated by DC by that point. Goddamn Batman looks more well-adjusted and a family man than our relatable youth orientated corporate product that appeals and relates to no youths.
>>154088931This is like the end of that Johnny Bravo and Scooby Doo crossover where they kept pulling off masks to find a new person under it.DON KNOTTS?!?
>>154089070If Spider-Man wasn't Spider-Man, he'd probably have an aged up secret kid by this point anyway.
>>154089070I get noone wants to see anyone mope for multiple months of issues, but I swear we've only gotten faster and more efficient at characters being given NEVER BE THE SAME AGAIN revelations and trauma and being back to wisecracking next week. Like MJ losing two kids and then having incredibly muddled motivation as to why she put on the Jackpot outfit to the point they aren't even mentioned anymore.This is what happens when you write for events, not characters, when Spider-Man in its greatest hey-day was all about its characters. KLH as far as stakes go is really low, no city in peril there, but the inner personal drama, conflict and yearning the story nails so well is why it's so memorable.And why Slott-slop onwards is so damn forgettable and insulting. Writers want their premise and damn the obstacles and pre-existing characters. But now I don't understand these characters. I don't know why they do what they do and when they allude to some explanation in the future it's half-baked at best.
>>154088969Thanks magister
>>154089688They just keep Batman in the loop of Bruce isolating himself from the Bat-Family only to unisolate himself from the Bat-Family in the end. Spider-Man just keeps going through the humilation conga line because the old heads at Marvel think that's how he was back when they were kids (IT WAS NEVER THIS BAD). Or Quesada deciding that Spider-Man needs to be relatable to him specifically.
>>154093131The youth over responsibility direction of Spider-Man has been such a cancer to the comics it's unbelievable. It's so anathema, it's how you end up with OMD, OMIT and every other worst decision that's effected the mainline to the point he's only ever recognizable outside his own comic.
>>154088828>Nobody cares!Writers projecting onto the fans there eh?
>>154088377>I didn't think we'd get this kind of clean up so soon.This was more than 2 years later, it didn't seem "so soon" at the time, it just seems faster if you're reading for the first time here.>>154089043>That....>Didn't answer anything other than Madjack.And then someone else at Marvel felt that the Danny Berkhart fakeout should've been the actual ending, and retconned this mini in a Handbook, not even in an actual comic story.
>>154089043Pretty sure the answer was supposed to be that the Mysterio we saw these last few years was that Quentin Beckbot>>154088841Except the writers hated the idea so much that Mysterio was truly dead so they rebelled anyway by implying there was someone still alive underneath that fishbowl after all>>154088969Whoever this could be, they clearly never wanted to answer in-comic. Some say it was Berkhart anyway (for reasons???), or maybe Mysterio already made that deal with Kindred and he's just haunting this page for shits and giggles.
>>154087277>Such a pitty he's blindWow, cunt.
>>154087559Nobody show this issue to Hasbro.
