People on Twitter are reporting that Avatar: Seven Havens has already leaked and is circulating in groups. Can anyone confirm this? Because personally, I can’t find anything concrete.
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>>154104571Lol
>>154104571>sold>as in, someone paid for this shit>with real money
>>154104571I never understood why they were so resistant to the fans just wanting to see more of Aang and the characters they introduced in the original series??I don't really care about this. I never really cared about Korra although I did think the steampunk thing they were doing was cool. I just wanted to see more adventures with the characters from ATLAB. And for some reason the creators always thought we were assholes for it.
>>154104571Why do leakers have a death wish for Avatar as a series specifically?
>>154105360Spite mostly. Some faggot will probably try and tell you the series deserves it for being bad outside the Aang show.
>>154105360Mostly paramount having dogshit cyber security
>>154105336well, the leaked movie proved they have 0 new ideas for the old cast and that they are supremely unwilling to make anything that would make korra less canon.with the news that they are "distancing from orientalism(read asian martial arts)" in 7 haven, i have no faith in them.
>>154105442>they have 0 new ideas for the old castThat's not actually a problem for me. And desu that's not how "new ideas" work. If they have en established world and established characters, they just need to have them live in the world. Something will come up, they have money, they can always hire writers to help if "Aang makes himself tofu and cabbage stir fry for the 829th time" just isn't creating any conflicts.
>>154105336Because they are retarded.That's all there is too it, look at the well of ideas that came up with Korra, they wanted to be retarded and got to do so on nicks payroll.
>>154105360After Korra and the comic, it should stay dead.The ip went full RWBY zombie retarded
>>154104571it's on telegramI don't know why they're saying it was sold herethe hacker is selling WIP episodes (unfinished animation) on telegram for 350 I believe
>>154106074>buying shit that is still planned to release>buying illegally leaked shit that will likely end up circulating early for free anyway>doing this right after the original leaker for the movie got arrestedpeople are so retarded
>>154105336Well, I don't. They did stuff with the old cast to my satisfaction and would be thrilled with something unrelated in with a new cast. I dont expect this to be good because I know they wont have any good writers or desire to make it good, but I at least appreciate itll be something newish.
goddamn they really can't keep anything secret can they?
>>154106127Everything else is already something newer
>>154105904Not a very good comparison. RWBY's second season felt like shit early on
>>154105336Well with the idea of the avatar cycle, that was too much of an enticing idea to pass up on.Loke Jojo where you follow a subsequent descendant, going down the line series after series.
>>154106452Same difference.
>>154106074Do you have a link to that Telegram channel? And why are only unfinished episodes being sold if insider Caleb Williams confirmed that season 1 was completed a year ago?
>>154106455Yeah but Jojo got to be good for at least 4 iterations.Avatar just shat the bed at the start and never recovered.
>>154105442>distancing from orientalism(read asian martial arts)What does that even mean, we're not allowed to draw from eastern cultures anymore? That's retarded. I understand if they don't want yellow-faced guys with names like Chong McChinaFace but come on.
>>154106520I think it's when they depicted the mystical Guru guy as a stereotypical indian
>>154106520Marxists from California are retarded people that believe everything is political.We are allowed to do anything, these people are just insufferable no joy retards on a race to the bottom.
>>154104571More insider info from Knights Edge Media (which leaked the Seven Havens casting call a year ago). It's not looking good for Bryke.https://knightedgemedia.com/2026/06/is-paramount-considering-selling-their-avatar-the-last-airbender-rights-to-another-studio/?fsp_sid=13066
>>154104571Who actually gives a damnWake me up when leakers do something useful
>>154105442>>154105505It's more like they already spent most of their most interesting ideas on the graphic novels (Zuko's mom, dealing with the political aftermath of the Hundred Year War and Fire Nation colonies, the impact of the technological progression on the nations) so the Aang movie ended up just having a generic "save the world" plot.
>>154106555It's funny how people only became even more racist against indians. We went from Apu being a quirky business owner who at worst might have been a bit shady and this guy (a wise, helpful mentor) to indians being filthy, shit-covered scammers and sex pests.
>>154106596Stereotypes are born from co existence.They always have an element of truth to them and spread through understanding of it in a natural fashion.It's the same as memetics, that's why in spite of a lot of butt hurt troglodytes with diplomas they are near impossible to kill.
>>154106594They could just retcon the comics, nothing if value would be lost.Maybe even retcon Korra on the way out.
>>154105281I wish I had money (to pay for food)
>>154106117As we can see, unfortunately nothing has been leaked publicly for free so far - or maybe I’m just not aware of the leak? Does anyone have a download link? Please share it
>>154107165When it comes to this stuff there's always hoarders, especially if they think it can become lost media.Imagine they shelve this project and all that remains is these leaks, some people are just that greedy with lost media.
>>154105336It's worth pointing out that rumors point to drafts of Korra originally having the story take place MUCH further in the future, with the technological jump being a leftover of this concept. There were never any initial plans to focus on the descendants of the Gaang. If anything, one could argue that it was Bryke attempting to resurrect their cyberpunk idea from the original ATLA pitch bible (which allegedly got them into trouble with Netflix for their ATLA live action series when they tried substituting it in place of the finished story).If you read up on all the promotional material, the art books, interviews, it becomes very obvious that Bryke saw the original series as disposable and wanted to do something different for the sake of doing it. They only included familiar faces and descendants in TLOK because they knew it would draw the attention of fans, but even then you could tell they still weren't interested in it (Sokka and Suki being written out, Toph not showing up until Book 3, Zuko hardly doing shit, Katara being stuck in the kitchen, the connection with the past lives being killed in Book Two which means any potential Aang and Korra dynamic died with it, etc).
>>154107987>any potential Aang and Korra dynamic died with itThis was specially spiteful
>>154107987>>154108056You guys wanted old lady yuri?
>>154108162No just Aang telling Korra to get her shit together or at least more than what we got.
>>154107748But wait don’t leaks actually work in a positive way right now? For Paramount Skydance to successfully merge with Warner Brothers, they are required to sell off part of their kids’ content assets. Paramount Skydance doesn’t deserve Avatar Studios. Greg Baldwin (the voice actor for Iroh) recently confirmed that, plain and simple. That’s exactly why Avatar: Seven Havens should have been leaked for free to everyone yesterday. For the future prosperity of the franchise, we urgently need to take down Paramount Skydance so they’re forced to sell Avatar Studios. This franchise would be better off in the hands of Netflix, Amazon, or someone else. Paramount Skydance doesn’t deserve it at all. So please, if you love this universe and want the best for its future, leak everything you have about Avatar: Seven Havens online. That’s the only way we’ll save the franchise’s future
>>154107987Korra was meant to be an Earth Avatar iirc
>>154108295The franchise will never recover as long as Bryke are around, always ready to throw a tantrum whenever they don't get their way.
>>154108346Makes the whole spiritual unconectedness and difficulty learning airbending a lot more sensible
>>154108346>>154108574Specifically an Earth Avatar who was raised in Republic City.
>>154108346You can tell because she doesn't give Water Avatar vibes even though the only Water Avatar we know is Kuruk lol.
>>154104571What kind of awful internet security do these studios have? These are multi million dollar companies and people hack their shit like they were some boomer who left their Facebook open at a public library.
>>154108721I wish they kept to that idea.Having it be set 160~ years or in the future after Aang and his successor would at least open the door to more airbenders besides Tenzin and his children. The only benefit to seeing Aang's kid(s) in their elderly era was the reveal that he was a terrible father and probably fucked up Tenzin due to only him inheriting the airbender genes, which I can believe. >>154105442The leaked Airbender movie was on the lower end of mid because of how it repeatedly had to cement and reinforce Korra as canon. It wasn't the worst but it was severely held back by Korra's worldbuilding. Also the main cast barring Zuko were very immature for their supposed ages
>>154104571>another female protagonistDead on arrival.
>>154104571Fuckin A, Avatar Studios on suicide watch.
>>154108992This. It should have been a little boy, so the next series about the fire avatar can be about an Azula clone.
>>154106516Korra and he bullshit will haunt this fucking series until someone either swallows their pride and retcons it, or someone else gets a hold of the series and takes TLOK behind the shed.
The mistake of avatar was being a Nickelodeon IPFunnily enough Disney or CN would've handled it better. No wonder ATfags and others are so happy that Nick rejected their series.
>>154108973>The leaked Airbender movie was on the lower end of mid because of how it repeatedly had to cement and reinforce Korra as canon. It wasn't the worst but it was severely held back by Korra's worldbuildingWas it? Republic City is fine as a setting, if anything it's more visually interesting in the film because it hasn't reached 20s America steampunk period yet.>Also the main cast barring Zuko were very immature for their supposed agesThe complain while Korra was airing was that the cast was too stoic and serious compared to fun they were in the original series (especially in regards to Aang)
>>154108295>This franchise would be better off in the hands of Netflix, AmazonPolar bears and rings of power tell me we are trading a dark master for an evil overlord.From incompetence to just plain evil is quite a leap.
>>154108380If Netflix buys it, the first thing they’ll do is fire Bryan Konietzko and Michael DiMartino exactly like what happened with the live-action adaptation. But for that to happen, we need a leak of Avatar: Seven Havens. Without a leak, Paramount Skydance won’t sell Avatar Studios. We need a leak that’s the only way we can force the sale of Avatar Studios. So if you have Avatar: Seven Havens, please leak it and make it freely available to everyone. That’s the only way we can save this franchise
>>154109638I really don't want to condone leaks as a principle, but bloody hell this franchise is cursed.It really feels that the of avatar was lighting in a bottle brought into existence by a lot of tard wrangling of the writing crew.
>>154109671Only a leak of Avatar: Seven Havens can save this franchise. Without a leak, Avatar Studios will remain a part of Paramount Skydance’s assets, and everything will just keep getting worse and worse. We need a leak, here and now that’s the only way we can save our beloved franchise
>>154109886Saying beloved is too much, I'd said is an acquaintance franchise.Korra caused us to become strained once it came to light.It's like finding out the cool guy at the office smokes crack and goes to the local gay bar glory hole to blow off steam.That's basically what Korra did to avatar reputation.
>>154106074Does anyone have a link to this telegram ?
>>154105360Because Avatar creators are huge assholes
>>154105360Why not
>>154109923I see it more as your buddy who has to always bring along his autistic neighbor because their mom’s are friends.
>>154104571People are going to jump at downloading malware data scanners just like when the movie leaked here?
>>154110237Nothing like that ever happened they uploaded the movie to wetransfer and posted the link here
>>154106594a reason i dont like prequels in general is because you either know where its going or it insert dissonance/plot holes.the second they told about the staff, i KNEW he was gonna destroy it for no reason because korra happens.>>154106719me too brother but its hard wishful thinking. they will not retcon nor blame korra for the apocalypse. she is their retarded golden girl.
>>154110307Now we wait for the exact same procedure with Pavi
>>154110585>she is their retarded golden girl.I didn't know turds could be gold coloured then.There's no doubt about it someone is fixated on getting us to like Korra at all costs, the more they push her the more she stinks or breaks things.
Studio was pretty silly to sit on
>>154106074I wonder how many people have already spent their money to buy this
>>154105360why not?it went full woke/progressive/gayshit after ATLA,allegedly this series was going to add more of that.
>>154111713It was always progressive, they were tardwrangled into making something enjoyable the first time.Or they just say that to win brownie points but they have states multiple times bullshit about the fire lord and blah blah blah gay shit and muh imperialism.They almost make Ozai look like a decent ruler with how unlikeable they are.
wasn't it rumoured some time ago that Pavi's teacher is going to be a huge homo? anyway, not happy how the airbending outfits look like spacesuits now, thank Korra.
Avatarrist comfirmed its 100% out there in some form. How long until it actually leaks is the question
>>154111713>>154111734The franchise revolves around a setting where white people do not exist, it was inherently woke from the start.
>leaker is shopping around the entire completed first season
Oh cool I needed something to hate watch for free.
Why are y'all hating on Korra that much? You phrase it like Korra is the worst thing that could have ever happened to atla. Also the community on here seems really homogeneous in that regard, I don't get it. Imo Korra is overhated and to me it sounds like you guys just want an atla 2.0. Good luck because that's not gonna happen.
>>154111855Yeah it sucked but it wasn't that bad.
>>154111844How much do you think it sold for?
>>154111855https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_HcRzUwSeo
>>154111855It tried to be a more mature and political show, too bad that the creative team behind the series doesn't know anything about political ideologies
>>154111898Earlier in this very thread, someone wrote that a hacker is selling it for 350$. They said the hacker is selling WIP episodes (unfinished animation), but now TheAvatarist is saying the hacker is selling the entire completed first season. It's unclear who to believe. Or maybe there are two hackers one selling the WIP, and the other selling the entire completed season
oh no
>>154111832I mean back in the day, you wouldn't know shit about the utter retardation of orientalism, power dynamics or imperialism through Marxist ideology unless you went to a selection of colleges and courses. It was nowhere near as widespread so it could be ignores when someone said something retarded about imperialism outside of studying it as the laws and economics of countries that had economic zones or colonies.Just think about how much the word imperialism has changed since the 90s to a point only the Marxist revision of it dominates the definition, it wasn't like that outside of very culturally backwards and incestuous circles of academia.>>154111855Korra was literally the worst thing to happen to this franchise.Both new stuff from Aang period and post Korra stories must follow or adhere to the stupid decisions made during Korra both by the writers, setting and actions of the characters.Korra single handily broke the franchise consistency.
or the entire first season with unfinished animation
>>154112057>I mean back in the day, you wouldn't know shit about the utter retardation of orientalism, power dynamics or imperialism through Marxist ideologyEdward Said wasn't a Marxist and Marx himself had orientalist views about the east
>>154112086Maybe I implied that, let me be clear.Current Marxist views will literally use anything as a way to upset the system through deconstruction.These currents are but tools to propagate the world view, the core of orientalism doesn't matter as long as it can be wielded to deconstruct.Maybe I'm not clear enough or not using the language as a proper Marxist would use it but what matters is the intent of the man in the soapbox not the author.Same goes with Imperialism, or other ideas all put through the practical effects of deconstruction to promote the practices of revolution.Fuck it, as someone involved in education let me tell you that education from the south and anti colonialist education is being put in practice in several colleges over the guise of decolonializing thought processes and creating comunal thought more in line with native thinking which is a load of bollocks and a half.Education from the south will become another big scandal just give it a few years. But this is fucking /co/ and the writers of Atla being a bunch of morons that ruined something fun should be the topic of discussion and not how turning the fire nation into strawmans with forklifts and bad storytelling wasn't a smart decision.I mean just look at what they did with earth and fire nation politics where a shity robot got involved, their sheer incompetence is in full display here.
>>154111713S1 anti communism with a dumb allegory of bending as wealth S2 incoherent critic of industrialization and capitalist apologiaS3 the most cartoonish depiction of anarchismS4 depicts fascist are super efficient and advanced even though historically fascist states had shitty economies.But it had to women kissing eachother and one of them is brown so it must be far left
>>154112146Avatar and Bryke is very neoliberal Hollywood-coded so a lot of the resolutions to conflicts boil down to "institutions flawed but violence is even badder"
>>154112144Marxism isn't that popular in western academia and when it gets taught is usually in a deradicalized and commodified form.Zizek being promoted as some kind of radical is the proof of how intellectually bankrupt mainstream western "Marxism" actually is.
>>154106571Knights Edge Media also said that Seven Havens had actually been renewed for four seasons in advance when Paramount took on the reigns so I'm not sure what caused the alleged breakdown unless the Ellisons or upper execs were genuinely retarded enough to only suddenly realize "wait, this does not have anything to do with James Cameron's movies".
>>154112184>Zizek being promoted as some kind of radical is the proof of how intellectually bankrupt mainstream western "Marxism" actually isIn a way I think we are both trying to say the same, it's a bunch of pseudo intellectual hot air that people parade for internet points.I'd rather have it back in just circles of academia where no one cared over the current nonsense we have. I'm tired man I just want cartoons to be funny and have some quality standards.>>154112187>wait, this does not have anything to do with James Cameron's moviesPlease let this be true because it would be so fucking funny.
>>154105336>I never understood why they were so resistant to the fans just wanting to see more of Aang and the charactersThe problem with teenage characters is that their adult writers tend to "grow out of them" after a decade and see them as a relic from a time when they, as humans, were different both in writing style and lived experience.
>>154105281Multiple posters on /co/ paid real money for both the ATLA movie and TADC leaks before dumping them on mega/get
>>154105336They, understandably, didn’t want to lock themselves into just continuing the same story with the same characters forever.
>>154106555Only Caucasian from the original series. Hopefully will see more diverse skin tones to reflect India's diversity.
>>154106555>Indian stereotypes in 2000s>Wise, spiritual, kind, and relentlessly hardworking people.>Indian stereotypes in 2020s>Lazy, violent, shiftless, good-for-nothing sex pests with a death wish.Boy, I’m sure glad we phased out those horrible, offensive stereotypes from the 2000s.
>>154112467Unironically that. Screw those assholes.
>>154112146>cartoonish depiction of anarchismAnarchism is cartoonish by its very nature
>>154112467at least it’s finally reflecting reality now instead of inaccurate shit TV and Movies were trying to convince us of
>>154111844Does anyone have a link? Where can all this be found?
but will trans women be depicted in the show?
>>154109886> Only a leak of Avatar: Seven Havens can save this franchise. only if seven havens retcons korra
>>154112550The old stereotype gave them a positive ideal to strive for.
>>154109886>save this franchiseIt doesn’t deserve saving. People need to learn to move the fuck on from a universe when it’s finished telling a story.
>>154111734> It was always progressive,the show is white people (and a few black people) voicing Asian and Inuit people, which is basically yellowface and brownface. ATAL is basically the modern day The Klansman.
The Filipino who leaked the film got arrestedWhoever leaks this show will get arrested tooThis is tens of millions of dollars you are screwing out of Jews and they will get you
>>154112559it's not public stuff being shared in private communities?
can we get toph in her true adult form?
>>154112668Toph, you can talk trash, you can handle the ball. But look in your heart and ask yourself: Are you funky enough to be a Globetrotter?
>>154112628God, you people have already annoyed everyone with your Korra talk. Even here, in a thread about the leak, you keep trashing Korra nonstop. Maybe that's enough already? Can we finally focus on the Seven Havens leak?
>>154112743Considering how things go it's probably going to be leaked by attention whores on Twitter or reddit first.I doubt many people want to pay for the privilege of receiving dolphin porn on the off chance it's real I don't think it's worth it, but if you really want it Twitter is the place for these kind of leaks.
watching korra for 20+ times was so fun when I didnt have a nostalgic bitch yapping in my ear
>>154112743> God, you people have already annoyed everyone with your Korra talk.>yea sure korra killed the Avatar franchise and was terrible, BUT CAN U STOP TALKING ABOUTno. the new show is built on korra’s horrible writing. so whatever comes next will be turbo shit unless massive retcon that korra never happened
>>154112743They’re obsessed and can’t let it go.
i wonder whether we will get the plot spoilers first or the entire season on MEGA right off the bat
Is this show going to be like Nausicaa?
>>154112774> They’re obsessed and can’t let it go.defending shit writing and calling us obsessed? i bet you defended the force awakens as well.
>>154112668Maybe it's time to upload all of this to WeTransfer / Mega and share it with the whole world? Because they're selling the entire completed season to a select few, but for us ordinary mortals there's nothing we literally don't even have a single frame
it will definitely end up there this week
>>154112146>>154112173To be more precise, one half of bryke is very IDPOL woke, the other is a huge Ayan Rand fanboy.Both are terrible writers.
>>154112528I'm not an anarchist either but their ideology isn't chaos for the sake of it. Zahee even spews right wing "libertarian" individualistic nonsense about people fending for themselves and their loved ones.If you want to critique an ideology do it without ridiculous caricatures.
>>154112916> the other is a huge Ayan Rand fanboy.source?
>>154112919> Zahee even spews right wing "libertarian" individualistic nonsense about people fending for themselves and their loved ones.thats anarchism dou. its literally devoid of theory and based on feels. its also hyper individualistic and egoist. murry rothbart shit.
>>154112916>very IDPOL wokeIs it though? The Republic has virtually no social issues related to the fact it was formed from former Fire nation's colonies, you would think that there would be some resentment against descendants of the colonizers and economic disparities between them and the locals.The only characters that acknowledge it are literal fascist. Like what's the message the "land back" movement is fascistic? or where they too lazy to read post colonial literature?
>>154108891They're too busy trying to virtue signal for money to make good products or prevent them from leaking, bigot.
>>154112996Anarchists believe that people will unite together under communism directly without the need of hierarchies.You can question how exactly are they going to managed resources without someone taking the lead and coordinating the process but even the most individualistic anarchist believes in collectivism.
i wish the leakers could at least spoil some minor things already - like if we’re getting the 3rd round of the iconic 4 elements intro
>>154112661>FilipinoSingaporean
>>154113047> Anarchists believe that people will unite together under communism directly without the need of hierarchies.wrong idiot. it isn’t opposed to hierarchies you brainlet. its opposed to hierarchies that can’t justify their existence. the burden must be on the hierarchical structure to justify its on existence.
>>154113055>like if we’re getting the 3rd round of the iconic 4 elements introI feel like they'll actually subvert this, considering the premise of the setting is that benders are now rare and constantly being drafted into the city's military force, including the children.
>>154112822I don’t defend shit writing and there is a lot of shit writing in LoK, but there’s some stuff that’s okay about it. It’s an okay series; not amazing, not horrible, just okay.
>>154113071>it isn’t opposed to hierarchies you brainleAnarchy literally means without leaders.>the burden must be on the hierarchical structure to justify its on existence.You are just throwing random words now. Anarchist are pretty straightforward about what they believe.I'm not an anarchist because I think that is dumb but they can make good analysis about the oppressive nature of the state. Korra did none of that instead it gave us a guy that regurgitates the most right wing caricatural take on anarchism.
>>154113178> Anarchist are pretty straightforward about what they believe.so you would know every anarchist society in spain, ukraine, rojavia all had militaries with conscription? because you would be a retard to not have an army to protect you from other states.
>>154113189>all had militaries with conscription?And? Did you saw me saying that anarchism was a perfectly coherent ideology?Also we are talking about ideal anarchism not actual attempts at achieving it in the real world.And militarism requires cooperation which goes against Zaheer's believes
>>154113127It’s fucking irredeemable garbage, stop defending it!
>>154113301>*real* anarchism has never been tried!
>>154104571>Sold>On 4chanSomebody paid money?
>>154106074Post proof. Show a screenshot or some shit. Otherwise this is just made up bullshit. Better not just be the old storyboards that leaked ages ago.
>>154113356You don't understand the English language
>>154111855Korra was retarded and deserved all the hate it got.>Korra has no redeeming qualities to her personality>Retarded love triangles between bitch, cardboard, and manchild>Retconned the Avatar from a nature deity to just being some generic sPiRiT oF lIgHt fused with some guy>Genuinely cool villain Amon ruined by an absolutely stupid and pointless reveal>Permanently destroyed Aang through a retarded fanfiction-tier Dark Avatar>Cheapened lightning bending and bloodbending>Writing is entirely "DUDE wouldn't it be cool if (...)" even if it doesn't make sense>Retarded giant humanoid robot with lasers>Ratingsbait the ending by having two characters who barely interacted suddenly lezzing out
>>154104571I think Pavi is Indian.
>>154113603>nature deityJust because they didn’t explicitly say the avatar *wasn’t* a nature deity on ATLA doesn’t make that the default answer. Headcanon is not canon.
>>154113674And just because you're fucking retarded doesn't mean that people can't piece together that the guy called the "Avatar" that's treated as not quite a human complete with "the" "Avatar spirit" isn't some kind of supernatural god-equivalent instead of a literally-who melded with another.But in any case here's the fansite mentioned in that one E;R video that supposedly pulled from Nick.com:https://web.archive.org/web/20200712091507/http://atla.avatarspirit.net/legend.php>inb4 ""allegedly" yeah sure more fan theory"Weird how that information would coincide with the Nick leaks that got posted here a while back.https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/137991411/#137991826Seriously, what do you think the name "Avatar" is supposed to alude to?
>>154112916I've never wanted to sex sokka and zuko before but now I want all of them
>>154106596Anon, my experience talking to indians boils down to them claiming to not know what a deodorant is (no need to swear by it) and them asking for sex pictures. Unsure about the scam and being shit covered, but in my experience the other two are factually correct. In fact, I ask every time the nationality before mocking and saying that lol no not sending you anything, and dude they're ALWAYS fucking Indian.
>>154105336>more of Aang and the characters they introduced in the original seriesSame, I dont know why they didnt just adapt the comics. Sure, they can be hit or miss sometimes but thats were they can be improved.Korra was such a missed opportunity. I still dont understand how they could fuck up that series so bad with the amazing foundation that they had. Its like everything in that series is designed to piss off the fans of the original:-Korra somehow both knows that she is the avatar and can bend 3 elements at like age 4 when we have been consistently shown that avatars dont typically learn they are the avatar, and start their avatar training, until they are 16 or so.-Republic city throws away the aesthetics of the original as well as its foundational mystique in favour of bland metropolitanism.-The supporting cast is mainly bland except for Tenzin who sometimes gets more protagonism than Korra.-They just shit on all the original characters: Aang and Katara were bad parents, Sokka is nonexistent, Toph was a bad parent, Zuko shows up only for fan service and doesnt do anything, Azula, Mai and Ty Lee dont exist.-They ruin the spirit world in season 2 and introduce canon that shits on all the interesting world building of the original.
>>154114891Oh I forgot about an important one:-the avatar state is reduced to a joke, the cycle is discontinued, Korra cant stop losing for some reason.Korra is such a walking contradiction of a character, she was introduced as a Mary Sue and then procededed to get humiliated all series long for some reason.
>>154114891I saw a bunch of Avatar graphic novels at Barnes and Noble the other night but I wasn't sure what any of the good ones were. Anyone have a ranking or at least a "get this one/avoid these"?
>>154115043I think the main consensus is that the azula ones (the search) kinda butchered her's and Ursa's character and were generally bad. People also generally dislike the first one (the promise) but it may be because they dont like the whole 'colonial projects are nuanced and cannot just be entirely dismantled'.People seem to like the rift and imbalanced because they center around Toph.
I'm more interested in watching the unfinished version of the show than I am the finished version, just for the novelty of it all.
no proof yet?
>>154112377That's not understandable, no. Making Korra or whatever this shit is was always an option. Ironically they kind of locked themselves out of new stories with the gaang since Korra locks in canon.
>>154114891>-Korra somehow both knows that she is the avatar and can bend 3 elements at like age 4 when we have been consistently shown that avatars dont typically learn they are the avatar, and start their avatar training, until they are 16 or so.eh that is fine because it had a consquence (korra stuck in military camp all her life so she's socially retarded)
>>154115043avoid all of them and read rufftoon's zhao webcomic instead
>>154113372No, they’re only selling the entire completed season to a select few. For us ordinary mortals, there’s nothing we literally don’t even have a single frame
>>154116757>No, they’re only selling the entire completed season to a select few.On the dark web? Is this Peter Scully Daisy's Destruction of our time? Which was originally an urban legend turned out to be real.
>>154116773Guys are saying that somewhere on telegram, they're selling it
>>154105422oh yeah didn't some spongebob movie get leaked a few years back
if you want the episodes join leakroad
>>154111855>Why are y'all hating on Korra that much? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmKaQqinWKYBecause she sucks ass as a protagonist that why.
>>154113055>>154113075If they don't include this then it's better to say this franchise is truly dead.
>>154117002>basing all your opinions on some culture war youtuber slop lollmao
I’m just reminding everyone: Paramount Skydance does not deserve Avatar Studios. Greg Baldwin (the voice actor for Iroh) recently confirmed that, plain and simple. That’s exactly why Avatar: Seven Havens should have been leaked for free to everyone last week. For the future prosperity of the franchise, we urgently need to take down Paramount Skydance so they are forced to sell Avatar Studios. This franchise would be better off in the hands of Netflix, Amazon, or someone else. So please if you love this universe and want the best for its future leak everything you have about Avatar: Seven Havens online. That’s the only way we will save the future of the franchise
>>154117058why do Korra shills always have to call back to "well uh actually your a chud culture warrior if you don't like the shitty writing of korra."
>>154113055Who would be the benders this time? I guess it would be the white lotus members + pavi and her sister doing a double earthbending attack
>>154117083maybe if you used civil words to review the dogshit series instead of calling a female character a whore, people would assume you're a civil person
>>154116990Can I get a link? because I'm an idiot who can't find anything on my own
>>154116990What's this leakroad? Can you give more details? Where can we get the Seven Havens episodes, and most importantly - is it free?
Someone explain what leakroad is and if its a troll
if the leaks are real then you will see them in the coming days, it's that simple
>>154117002Is E;R a lolicon? He loves Katara and Toph, yet I can’t imagine them acting any differently from Korra, if they were in her place. She gets mad after Lin says she has no place in her city, and butts heads with Tenzin. Is Katara a whore for liking Jet and Haru? Korra constantly turned Bolin down and was pretty clearly not interested.
>>154111832>Setting has no white people >It was inherently woke from the start It's genuinely amazing how fucking stupid liberals are
>>154117398at least they didn’t get tricked into fighting and losing the culture war with made up words that don’t mean anything
>>154117368As I understand it, all of this is being sold. So no one is just going to hand you leaks on a silver platter for free
it’s still gonna leak on the internet but it could be tomorrow, in three days or even in a week. sooner or later anyway
>>154117099>maybe if you used civil words to review the dogshit series instead of calling a female character a whore, people would assume you're a civil personI am not the youtuber who created the video. Dumbass.
>>154117657It’s almost like you should articulate your own arguments instead of letting your favorite e-daddy make them for you
>>154112916>genderswap Toph>still small and weakNow I’m not saying every character needs some complex reimagining just because you change their sex, but Toph is not a character where you just change their hairstyle and call it a day.
>>154117427>fighting and losing the culture warExplain? Is transgenderism brought up in Avatar now?
>>154105336Sunk cost fallacy, they just can't accept LOK was a failure and a bad idea
>>154111844I'm thinking they have a ton of disgruntled employees facilitating this, it doesn't make sense otherwise
>>154111855When you make a sequel to one of the best animated series, you will inevitably get compared against it and LoK came up short in that regard.
>>154114293Let it flow through youSokara is best girl
>>154105360It's also probably the only thing people would actually pay money for the leak
>>154105442>"distancing from orientalism(read asian martial arts)"Source?
>>154112983>>154113005Not him but Suyin and her city could only be created by an Ayn Rand fanboy. On a related note, FUUUUCCK Suyin, hate that bitch.
>>154118044I bet you a thousand dollars it will come up in haven
>>154107987>f anything, one could argue that it was Bryke attempting to resurrect their cyberpunk idea from the original ATLA pitch bible (which allegedly got them into trouble with Netflix for their ATLA live action series when they tried substituting it in place of the finished story).I remember that Cyberpunk thing, it was so shit it made me understand where LOK came from.
>>154111855Most of the LoK hate comes not from what it was, but what it failed to be.
>>154109282>Republic City is fine as a settingNo
>>154112743>Even here you keep talking about the biggest tumor upon the franchiseAnd?
>>154104571>another brown girlbossplease no
>>154107987>it becomes very obvious that Bryke saw the original series as disposable and wanted to do something different for the sake of doing itImagine having a run away accidental success and still being determined to do something better but on purpose. Fucking take the win, jeezus.
>>154117389>muh fascismHe is a part of the problem
>>154111855>You phrase it like Korra is the worst thing that could have ever happened to atla.I don't know about 'could' but it's the worst thing that DID happen to the franchise alongside the comics
>>154113930>Seriously, what do you think the name "Avatar" is supposed to alude to?Especially when said avatar can bend all the elements the planet is made up of
>>154117791Cope
>>154118478You will have your culture war Twitter posts and you will like them!
>>154112799No cause Nausicaa was good
>>154118436That's all Avatars from now on Anon. Every single avatar will be a brown girl boss and (possibly) lesbian ("possibly" because sex is a spectrum remember) because Korra erased all other Avatars and has locked herself in. Korra is locked in Anon.Are you ready for 10k years of Korra? YOU'RE GONNA HAVE'TA!!....
>>154113127No, it's bad
>>154118436Cool it with the racist and sexist remarks. Katara existed before Korra by the way.
>>154118628Katara wasn't a girlboss
>>154118628Katara doesn’t count because… she just doesn’t, okay!!!
>>154118576Even the air nomad Avatar in the leaked movie was like this. It's like they regret making most of the avatars in these lineups fair-skinned men.
>>154118665Katara doesn't count because she wasn't a girlboss nor the main character
>>154118576>Are you ready for 10k years of Korra?I'm going to have to deal with it....>>154118628Katara is literally an archetype of motherly love, caring for others but willing to fight like a mama bear for them. Girl bosses are only allowed to go full bitch mode.
>>154118711Where's Goku?
>>154118708Would Batman be an earth or air bender?
>>154118708Lol I didn't notice
>>154118711>girlbosses can only be main characters!Why are chuds so dishonest?
>>154118663Define girlboss pls
>>154117099>if you used civil wordsDisingenuous concern trolling detected...>>154117385...With a nice bit of hypocritical character assassination thrown in.This is an awful post too.>yet I can’t imagine [Katara and Toph] acting any differently from Korra, if they were in her place.That says more about you than them.The problem with Korra and Tenzin is that Tenzin is being pragmatic with Korra while trying to teach her his culture. The closest we have to that with Katara is whenever she goes to the Northern Water Tribe and deals with the sexism. In that plot, Katara is justified since she's had experience as a warrior fighting the Fire Nation, and the healing skills she learns do end up having a silver lining, meaning that the Northern Water Tribe's point of view actually helped the group. Korra has neither going for it. Tenzin is completely morally in the right because of Korra's disrespect to his time and selflessness, and the show doesn't call out Korra for it nor does it ever validate Tenzin's point of view.>Is Katara a whore for liking Jet and Haru?Nobody is talking about Katara's romance as a problem with her character you strawmanning idiot since (1) Katara wasn't a complete retard about Haru and the show called her out on Jet and (2) the romance between them wasn't a driving force behind the show since neither of those boys were part of the central cast.>Korra constantly turned Bolin down and was pretty clearly not interested.Korra lead him on and kisses his brother you literal autist.
>>154118727Meant for >>154118708
>>154118729firebender but also somehow a worse avatar than korra
>>154117791You say this limp-wristed troon passive-aggressiveness, but don't respond to >>154114891 or >>154113603
>>154116671Yeah but it had the bad narrative consequence of pidgeonholding the series into Korra having to learn airbending for four seasons. I think it would have been much better if Korra started out with really good offensive waterbending and then had the classic avatar journey of learning the other 3. The whole having to learn the elements is in part what forced the original series to have to come up with a varied cast of supporting characters that embodied each element. With Korra, since this is not needed, the supporting cast is not as narratively tight.Of course, what LoK went with could have worked given better writing but I think that the whole 'the avatar has to learn the 4 elements' is a really really good foundational narrative for any avatar show and Korra threw it away without substituing it with something good.
>>154118715>Katara is literally an archetype of motherly love, caring for others but willing to fight like a mama bear for them. Girl bosses are only allowed to go full bitch mode.None of the Korratroons in this thread will respond to this point in good faith
>>154118873>troons troons troons troons Jack off before posting
>>154118729Firebender. He would be the first avatar to learn all the sub bendings.
>>154118892Nobody finds you freaks sexy. Also, thank you for proving my point.
>>154106596People try to assume the best when completely ignorant of the truth. The fewer Indians you interact with, the more they're like Apu.
>>154118809But Korra apologized for lashing out at Tenzin. He recognized that pro-bending was the best way for her to further her training. Korra made one mistake with Mako and felt bad about it. He was the one who wanted to talk before she kissed him, and she was right that he was in love with her. And she shot Bolin down constantly.
>>154113603I actually dont hate Korra as a character, she could have worked. But the series just isnt built to properly support her character. This is especially evident in season 2, where she is just all over the place and the writers dont seem to know how to characterize her beyond being a dumb meathead. And some writer must have had some humiliation fetish or something because she gets shat on so fucking often it sort of tarnishes the image of the avatar.
>>154118708There is a big overrepresentation of firebenders here
>>154104571let avatar die ffs
>>154118952>And she shot Bolin down constantly.She kissed his brother in front of him while she was on a date with him.
>>154118952So if I go pull up a stream of both episodes, I'm going to find Korra apologizing to Tenzin for disrespecting his family, and I'm NOT going to find Korra and Bolin on a date?
>>154118981That’s not what happened. It was at the arena before their match, Mako wanted to talk to her, and she kissed him without knowing that Bolin was there. It’s rude, but she told Bolin beforehand she didn’t want to date, but he insisted. And even before that, the minute she met him, she refused to pretend to be his fake girlfriend.
>>154104571I dont understand, if she is an earthbender, why not just have her make a leg out of stone or something. The wooden stump destroys her character design.
>>154119031she does say sorry, and I never said she didn’t go on a date with Bolin.
>>154119046It is very much what happened, stop lying.
>>154118962>But the series just isnt built to properly support her characterWhat character? What world would need to contort itself to her?I get where you're going with this, but it assumes that Korra is some immutable character rather than just an element of a story. Compare her to Aang. Aang's character is simple to grasp on the surface: he's a childish prodigy that's overwhelmed by his responsibilities as the Avatar, but still yields to the call to help people. You have a character like that, with a central compelling conflict, and the world doesn't need to bend (no pun intended) to him to get a story, since there's enough already there to work off of how he would react to any given plot point. You can't really do that with Korra, since she doesn't really have a personality beyond what we see when she yells "I'm the Avatar, you gotta deal with it." This type of stubborn, static character isn't doomed, but it needs tact and self-awareness otherwise it becomes grating.
>>154119081>and I never said she didn’t go on a date with Bolin.You DID say, and I quote from >>154118952>And she shot Bolin down constantly.You can try to muddy the point by recapping the how-to of the specific conversation right before, but the simple fact is that she said yes to a date with Bolin, then kissed his brother the same night. She's a whore. Katara never had a moment like that.
>>154119120she didn't know Bolin was there and it wasn’t while they were on a date, it was before their bending match. And it was still Mako’s fault for instigating in the first place because he genuinely was jealous and in love with her. You can call it retarded and contrived but it’s how it happened.
>>154119202>And it was still Mako’s fault for instigating in the first placeWhorrafag he believes women have no agency while defending an annoying girlboss character. Gotta lnove irony.
>>154119131>What character? What world would need to contort itself to her?Because the way people typically write stories is by first thinking about characters and then making up a world that fits those characters and going from there. And the world does bend to Aang since Aang is the main character and he needs to win in a satisfactory way.The writers of LoK have consistently said that Korra is supposed to be the opposite to Aang. She is reckless, impulsive, prideful, sometimes to the point of vanity, headstrong, doesnt run away and is generally a big destructive force of nature that needs to be reigned or at least directed. I guess this is why the writers thought that just as Aang needed to learn to confront his problems, Korra needed to learn that she needed tact and for some reason thought that the best way to make her learn that was by humiliating her several times.
>>154119202So it indeed happened
>>154119273You're saying a lot of words, but very few of them address my point. Please also address the whole post instead of snippets that are convenient for you and acting like the rest doesn't exist.
>>154119510I have argued against what I take to be your central point: That Korra "doesn't really have a personality beyond what we see when she yells "I'm the Avatar, you gotta deal with it."" I think this is demonstrably false and you can easily reduce Aang's character to some specific quirk that he has.
>>154118980>let avatar die ffswe need to remove Michael Dante DiMartino and Bryan Konietzko from any control over it. They were the ones behind The Last Airbender 2010 film, Korra, evil Iroh in ATLA Nextflix series and the disaster that is Avatar Studios.
>>154119536>>since she doesn't really have a personality beyond what we see when she yells "I'm the Avatar, you gotta deal with it." This type of stubborn, static character isn't doomed, but it needs tact and self-awareness otherwise it becomes grating.You did not address this point.This is something I notice with your posting style. Instead of elaborating on a given point, or following it up with anything meaningful to address what anyone's saying to you, you instead restate your previous argument except more verbose and with some recaps thrown in that don't actually address what's being said in order to feign understanding.
>>154120305A certain breed of political mental illness loves to do this a lot, repeat the same thing over and over again until you just accept it as reality.
>>154119541>evil Iroh in ATLA Nextflix seriesExcuse me?
>Those changes Bryke wanted to do in the NATLA>Princess Yue would be murdered by an arrow during the Battle of the Northern Water Tribe.>Uncle Iroh would secretly be working for Firelord Ozai and betray Prince Zuko.>Firelord Ozai would die by the end of SeasonWtf, did they want Iroh to be the final villain?
>>154121248Source?
>>154121261https://knightedgemedia.com/2026/01/massive-changes-netflixs-avatar-the-last-airbender-almost-had-under-mike-dimartino-bryan-konietzko/
>>154121264What in the fuck? Are they insane?
>>154121248The Yue's death is so random
Looks lame but> homeless> thiefavatar might not be a bad start
>>154105336It's about owning the chuds and getting that sweet jewish gold from Larry Finn now. They care nothing about the franchise. You WILL get Avatar about woke ideals only and that's that. Now buy it or you're a nazi.
>>154121443>chud>jew>woke>nazi
>>154121366Why are posting storyboards of this scene here? They've been online since december 2024.Earlier in this very thread, someone said that the leaked episodes of Seven Havens can be found on leakroad, but everyone conveniently ignored it. It seems like nobody here cares about Seven Havens - all anyone cares about is talking about Korra
>>154121366Damn, it's finally getting posted?
>>154121674That is an old leak from like 2024
>>154119046i love when women are written into "excuses" to be assholes to male characters
>>154121602Welcome to the reality.
>>154121674The storyboard for this scene from the first episode has been publicly available since december 2024. As someone mentioned above, the leaked episodes of Seven Havens are on some leakroad. Leakroad, as I understand it, is a platform for distributing leaks, but you need an invite.
>>154117389Was Avatar ever a big money maker for Nick? >>154118478How so? He is right about that
>>154121182It's a leftover idea from Avatar's original pitch/bible that bryke kinda refused to let go like the love triangle between Aang and the earthbender guy over Katara that they tried again in LoK with Mako and Bolin with a bit of Zutara thrown in. Iroh was supposed to sabotage Zuko by teaching him firebending incorrectly or something among those lines.
>>154122408>Iroh was supposed to sabotage Zuko by teaching him firebending incorrectly or something among those lines.Literally Wimp Lo's plot.
>>154122440It could've been an inspiration one of the two(bryke, can't remember who) was really into martial arts movies kek
>>154118478I know it's easy to roll your eyes at the word "fascist" these days, but he was using it correctly, here. He wasn't calling Paramount fascist, he was talking about Fire Nation.
>>154112550>>154112631Be the American the Japanese think you are.
>>154122111Leakroad - those are the same guys who leaked The Amazing Digital Circus: The Last Act three weeks ago
>>154112528Anarachism is the reason the US even exists; if there were strictly enforced laws and a strong government presence, half the US would belong to Europe and Mexico
>>154121248Bryke needs to be blacklisted from the industry
>>154122111>>154122618shit reeks of glowie honeypot
>>154123110Can't be arrested if you're not the one sharing.
>>154105442They've had no idea what to actually do with anything since about part way through season 3 of ATLA.
>>154123110What it feels like honestly, think I'd rather wait around for an employee to leak it intentionally or leak boards/assets by accident
>>154109282The problem with Republic City is that they never took it seriously. It's just sort of a vague urban landscape. There's no substance to it, which is why they basically abandon it as the central setting.
>>154123156They burned through all their inspiration and then had nothing left but their own terrible original ideas to work off of.
>>154123328I mean it’s called “Republic City” I know the nations all have the element in their names, but the locations actually had proper names.
>>154122618The amazing digital circus the last act was quickly downloaded from the leakroad platform and then spread further via torrents. But here, in the case of avatar seven havens, it's just silence
>>154123328On top of that, TLOK's worldbuilding actively breaks/undermines what ATLA established into something that's way less interesting.
>>154106596that's because of right-wing propaganda, not because of people becoming more woke
>>154123519Negative Indian stereotypes began long before it became a maga talking point through sex pest-y Indian men asking to redeem bobs n vagenes and other memes, media, etc, you bloody benchod.
>>154117389>The new leadership has nothing but contempt for Avatar Oh so just like the previous leadership. That's how you know this retard is talking out of his ass.
>>154119273>She is reckless, impulsive, prideful, sometimes to the point of vanity, headstrong, doesnt run away and is generally a big destructive force of nature that needs to be reigned or at least directed.I wonder why they decided to do this with a WATERBENDER avatar.
Is it leaked yet?
>>154123328>Airbender island >Tri-bending matches >City council >Police airships and headquarters the first two episodes establish a bunch of different locations around Republic city.
Republic City is a good location, but most importantly, an Avatar based off of politics would've been a phenomenal modernization of the seriesAnd then they shit themselves with spirits. Having S1 and S4's conflicts back to back would've been better in keeping the politics and steampunk theming
>>154123984Yeah, they say it's already on the Leakroad platform. Leakroad is the same group that leaked The Amazing Digital Circus: The Last Act three weeks ago
>>154117389>They. Do. Not. Value. The. Franchise.And neither has a single person who has done anything with it starting from 2010
>>154124407This is why im happy to watch this IP crash and burn. Bryke have shit the bed too many times for another scapegoat act to fool anyone who has paid attention
>>154124336Is that "leaked" or "a bunch of smug shitters are passing around and thumbing their nose at the corporations"?
>>154124336Unless there's a catbox or mega link posted in here with the full episodes it doesn't count as a "leak". Show me proof and then we'll talk. Until then this thread is worthless
>>154108765It gave us Tonraq so it's fine
>>154124649Here's the link https://leakroad.com/ , but leakroad is invite-only, so you won't be able to access it without an invitation. For us ordinary mortals, all we can do is wait for someone to download it from there and upload it to public sources
Bryke is so petty that they override the writer's room who was mostly pro Zutara and told them to do a last minute Kataang and Maiko kiss even if Aang and Katara were apart for most of the finale after shouting at each other and Mai not having any screen time at all.But somehow all those multiple scenes Zuko and Katara get together don't mean anything
>>154124975>multiple scenes0 isn't exactly 'multiple'.
>154124975>154124991>thread is dead because no leaks>time for more shipfaggotry consolewarsHang thy self
>>154124975>last minuteHave you even watched the very first episode of the show where Katara is introduced as Aang's love interest right away?
>>154125013>Pointing out what happened in the show when I start crying about my shitty ship is shipfaggotry!!!!You will never make the actual relationship from the show be on the same level as your fanfic, retard.
>Responding to years old bait over again>Assuming it's not just you samefagging to necrobump>everyone who tells you to fuck off must be the schizo instead!find a rope.
>>154124649>Until then this thread is worthlessThis was the case right from when this thread didn't show anything from the beginning
>>154125105>I-i-i was just baiting!!!!!Nobody believe that.Hey, melting down sperg, do you cut yourself and scream about 'muh shipfaggotry' in impotent rage when you see people talk about the Cave of Two Lovers episode?
>>154125105>everyoneSo literally nobody except you?
>>154107987>>154108346>It's worth pointing out that rumors point to drafts of Korra originally having the story take place MUCH further in the futureAre there any sources for this or is it just fanfic? I know ATLA was originally meant to be a cyberpunk world, but I've never heard that about Korra.Honestly I never found the speed at which the Avatar world changed very unrealistic besides the mecha (which I think was meant to be a kid-friendly equivalent of an atomic bomb). The Fire Nation was already industrialized and even had tanks. Maybe it's a bit jarring, but I think people underestimate the speed at which rich countries industrialized in real life.
>>154125229It's not just the speed but the sheer stupidity of how inconsistent it all is. we go from messenger hawk to radios but there's no guns? all while the world of atla suddenly had forklifts?
>>154124975>But somehow all those multiple scenes Zuko and Katara get together don't mean anythingYes they don't mean anything. The ember island play episode made fun of zuko and katara shippers and even the new movie made fun of zuko and katara shippers
>>154124931There probably won't be any re-upload from leakroad. This isn't The Amazing Digital Circus most people simply don't care about Avatar: Seven Havens.On top of that, after what happened with the Aang movie, people are afraid to post leaks. So don't be surprised if there ends up being no public leak at all and those episodes remain on leakroad forever
>>154125304>On top of that, after what happened with the Aang movie, people are afraid to post leaks.Nothing happened, I posted the leak everywhere
>>154104571>Avatar Thread titled "leak">No leaks>It's just more of the sameJust put the zucest pics in the bag and be done with it, dead thread of a dead IP
>>154125319>Just put the zucest pics in the baBased
>>154125290>>154125296>>154125308>>154125315God what a cringe scene.
>>154125327The Blue pig spirit being voiced by that faggot whose name escapes me was especially grating. Who unironically likes this shit humor in 2026?
>>154125318Paramount caught Idiseverything because he was posting clips, and now they’re threatening to put him in prison, even though he wasn’t even the one who actually uploaded the entire movie to WeTransfer and posted the link here. Paramount simply caught whoever they could, and now, just for the sake of appearances, they’re trying to pin all the blame on one person
>>154124975it wasn’t the writers room, it was 3-4 writers, book 3 dropping the ball doesn’t mean the series wasn’t firmly Kataang. Mike or Bryan actually commented that the Zutara scenes did mean something, they’re close friends, they just never do anything in the comics and movie because of shipping.>>154125308Aang reacting the same way he did years ago is kind of funny, but probably a little too meta considering Katara will be pregnant soon
>>154106571Progressiveness is a mental disease. Recasting to better match fictional races is idiotic. Worse is thinking you have to cast a BLIND actress to voice a blind character. Clearly Bryke are fully infected.
>>154125508>Worse is thinking you have to cast a BLIND actress to voice a blind characterunironically one of the better performances in that waste of a movie. Aang and katara were dreadful
>>154125527She was decent but the original voice actor of Toph is still the best and better.
>>154125662Agreed. Fuck Bryke
>>154125662>the original voice actor of Toph is still the best and better.In every way.
>>154106594They should animate the comic, but make retcons where applicable to make the story less stupid (I think the story was stupid). They should walk back their attempts to humanize Azula, but they should still humanize her and contextualize her actions without basically absolving her of all guilt (no blaming mommy and daddy, Azula is responsible for her actions).
>>154125527>>154125662>>154125703The VA for adult Toph sounded more like a younger version of the VA of adult Toph in Korra than an older version of preteen Toph in ATLA, if that makes sense
>>154124975I dislike how underdeveloped Kataang is as much as the next shipper but Zutara is bad for the narrative. If Zutara happens then Maiko doesnt happen and the Mai's betrayal of Azula loses narrative reasons, which makes Azula's breakdown less plausible. Azula's breakdown is incredibly important as a mirror to Zuko's journey. Zutara makes the overall narrative worse.
>>154125319IDK about this @leakroad, but @firebirdthing has ASH – and has had it for a while now – but he’s just a coward who’s afraid of getting caught for it
>>154120305Holy ad hominem to avoid interacting with the actual post.
ik the whole season might not leak for some time if at all but im very much surprised no one posted the plot summary yet
>>154125945They would probably keep Mai’s betrayal, she did call Zuko the jerk who dumped her. Finding anywhere to shove Zutara is kind of impossible though, it would seem a little undercooked if they kissed after beating azula
>>154125988>she did call Zuko the jerk who dumped herYeah but it is clear from that episode that they had feelings for each other and would reunite given the chance. I guess Maiko, just like every other ship in this series suffers from underdevelopment and would have needed a couple more episodes to substantiate why Mai would give up her life for Zuko if they werent actually in love.>Zutara is kind of impossible though, it would seem a little undercooked if they kissed after beating azulaYeah, but Kataang is similarly undercooked. The main thrust of the ship is literally just male lead and female lead who spent the most time in the series together and Aang's puppy crush sort of forcing itself into the narrative.
>>154125945>then Maiko doesnt happennothing of value would be lost. you dont need Mai to be fucking zuko for her and ty lee to side with him over azula. Iroh said it best, azula is crazy and those two would have turned anyway.
>>154125958Compilation of plot leaks from an old thread, source is Knights Edge Media
>>154126042Mai being in love with Zuko makes her betrayal of Azula much narratively tighter with what we have. Yeah, the betrayal could have happened out of friendship but the whole episode we are hammered with how Mai is heartbroken over Zuko chosing duty over their love. I dont think mere friendship is enough to drive the relevant themes.
>>154126065>much narratively tighter with what we have.The problem is that's literally all her character has going on in the plot, and its so under developed in contrast to Zuko's character which is otherwise the best character in the show. >>154126034is right, the alternatives not being feasible so late in the show doesn't make what we got any good.
>>154126063>Two avatars that have mastered the four elements by episode 1>Copious amounts of Korra fellating awaiting at the flashbacks.>Corrupt government guys are good guys unable to defy the holiness of the heroines. Everybody else can get fucked.So it's shit and it's going to follow all the eternal chinese propaganda rules. Beautiful.
>>154126575>eternal chinese propaganda rulesWhat does this even mean? You cant just conflate all the shit you dont like into one big ball.
>>154126646Many chinese stories are full of pillage, but the good guys never do it wrong.Similarly with a lot of crap that's completely hypocrite.
>>154126063I dont get it man, why do they feel the need to undermine their own premise by making the one unique thing about their show, bending, fucking extinct. Why do they need to undermine the established avatar rules by making the child avatar know all the elements at the very beginning again? Why do they rewrite the 4 nations background and all the prestablished lore into some new setting with the whole new city shit and new social rules. Why do they feel the need to reinvent the wheel? Fucking just tell another story in the same setting.
>>154126675This is just speculation but I think all the discourse around the Star Wars sequels and its worldbuilding, or lack thereof, has scared all these writers about whether or not future entries of the franchise they're a part of will just feel like a lazy retread of the originals so they feel the need to go all out with the evolution or go out of their way point out what has changed in-universe.I noticed it with Matrix 4 where there's a conspicuous scene where Keanu is like "oh the war was pointless, machines are still oppressing humanity" when he wakes up, only for the next scene to immediately reveal the dynamic conflict has evolved into "humans and machines vs other humans and machines".
>>154126063Will they have an amputee voice actor for Pavi? It fits with how they had to have a blind one for Toph in modern-day political correctness and "representation".
>>154126816No but they were calling for SEA VAs. They're calling for a gay dude to play the Airbender tho.[ PRIYA & NIKKI ] (these are codenames for Pavi and Nisha).>Seeking teens or young adults to play twins (9-year-old girls). South Asian (India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Nepal, Bhutan, Sri Lanka). Twin Heroines and mirrors of one another. Independent, kind, and resourceful. Priya is a reluctant hero who avoids altercations or fighting, but still believes in helping people using her creativity and wits. She’s a talented musician and loves to make up songs with her tanbur (guitar-like instrument). Due to a traumatic event in her early childhood Priya is an amputee, but her disability never stops her from trying to help people.Adjectives: quirky, cautious, empathetic, grounded.>Nikki is the snarky opposite to Priya. She loves her powers and the attention it affords her, but her biggest fear is to be forgotten or not accepted by others. Nikki is awkward but puts on a face of super confidence to hide the fact that she feels like a fish out of water. Despite her cocky attitude, Nikki is also an innovator, and her wild side is useful at times. Adjectives: sharp, snarky, wild, mischievous Background: South Asian (India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Nepal, Bhutan, Sri Lanka). Open to one actor playing both roles. Note: An accent is not required but if opting for an accent, please provide a take without one. *SERIES REGULARShttps://knightedgemedia.com/2025/08/avatar-seven-havens-casting-call-sheet-includes-multiple-recurring-characters-exclusive/?fsp_sid=6088
>>154126854>No but they were calling for SEA VAs.Of course. Can't have the wrong race playing a fictional character after all! Well unless a black VA plays a white character, then that's a-ok.>Open to one actor playing both roles.Why the hell would they even considering having two different actors play twins?
>>154125315>>154125327>>154125339apparently it was taika waititi's self insert. before I knew that, it already made sense to me. I can understand the flood of nepobabies and diversity hires, but I can't understand how this undesirable still gets to do anything in hollyjew
You can join leakroad if you buy a 2$ donation on their telegram @Leakroad wonder if anyone has access and can confirm
>>154125950>firebirdthingThe guy that hacked paramount and downloaded making fiends flas but gatekeeps them, love that guy
>>154126982>self insertinsane how zoomers don't know what that means anymore
Post the leaks link already dammit.
>>154127057>>154127251Bitch I can smell a honeypot from a mile away
>>154127251You are going to end up downloading a lot of dolphin porn.Just wait till some retard on Twitter or YouTube spills them for their 15 minutes of fame then get sued for their troubles.I will find it very funny if this ends up as lost media because no one bought it due to lack of interest and then it gets sold off as a tax cut.
We have no proof its even out there. I remember @firebirdthing posted an image of the seven havens file in response to the guy who leaked the movie but he’s since deleted it. I personally believe its out there in some form but have my doubts wether or not it will leak as some people have had it for months now
>>154127251No one is going to do that, because they're selling the episodes for 350$. I'm not going to buy some damn cartoon episodes for 350$. I'd rather just wait until 2027 and download them for free from a torrent after the official release.
Where is it being sold for 350$? Leakroad? A telegram group? Has anyone SEEN this or is it just rumours?
>>154127334Sorry, it was all me. I was just bullshitting to get likes and upvotes here.
>>154127334Man, fuck off, Fanaticus
>>154104571I'm gonna steal Pavi's design and make my own projects with her and do evil fucked up things to her
>>154104571Hey guys I heard Avatar Aang: The Last Airbender got leaked!
I like that the creators made her a cripple so she cant escape easily when you take the leg away
>>154127523>>154127497What the fuck is wrong with you peopleThat's a child
>>154127550I'm evil nigga
>>154126063> knows all 4 elements right away> not a fully developed woman> no attractive of-age supporting cast> FOUR seasons of thisWhen does this franchise even get good?
>>154115043All aren’t worth buying, I wouldn’t even recommend reading them for free.
>>154127645The show, or at least the first two seasons, is probably about restoring the Avatar State (Bryke confirmed we would still visit past Avatars in Seven Havens) so Pavi can fix the world since the setting has essentially devolved into a post-apocalyptic mad max fantasy sci-fi world where spirits and human factions are both hunting down the Avatar.
>>154127338Did you make up the story about telegram or leakroad? Or both?
>>154125957>avoid interacting with the actual post.Yes, that is literally what I accused you of doing there. Way to prove my point you faggot.
>>154127690Everything, even everything about Seven Havens. It's not real, I paid Paramount to make it all up just to piss off /co/.
>>154125020I saw Aang, a creepy little baby thing, stake claim on her, yeah. She did not reciprocate and deserved to have someone around she didn't have to act like a mother to. Whether it was parenting her brother, or Aang, or being doomed to parent the next generation of air benders.
>>154126063Holy shit, this is terrible>>154106596It's because people finally saw how indians actually are
>>154127760>She did not reciprocateCope>deserved to have someone around she didn't have to act like a mother to.So Aang who she explicitly said allowed her to be a kid and have fun again.
So we have basically child abuse comments, some racism, some sexism, and just a lot of toxicity and hate. And a lot of people overestimating the importance of sharing their opinion on anything. What a fucked up place
its 4channormal people dont go here to discuss
>>154126063>Another fanfic concept. After the dark avatar, here come the twin avatars>Coping about Korra being hated and blaming 'propaganda'>Doubling down on that weird 'White Lotus monopolize the avatar' nonsense>Focusing again on a city for some reasonThat's just LOK again
>>154127570Nta but>timmy >implying you're talking to white people for sure on 4chan>in 2026KEK>>154127850Yeah they're just doubling down on Louis worst aspects, the atla movie solely exists to justify it basically.
>>154127394Dude is so embarrassing. He's even asking leakroad on Twitter for the leaks.
>>154127892Fuggg I meant LoK
>>154126063I'll be honest, outside the butthurt about Korra being badly received IRL and turning it into a meta component to own le haters I think it sounds mostly okay.I'm a sucker for second/place inferiority complex type characters so while twin avatars sound kind of cringe and fanfictiony I don't mind it because it makes me glad neither of them will have to suffer through that and will be equals.
>>154127570This is literally just a browned version of a /pol/ anti-jeet meme.The left really can't meme.It's also not even a good one. "Everyone hates u!!!" "Your country imported us">"So go back!"No answer real answer.>>inb4 "but it has something like that!"You mean the one with Britain stealing natural resources? How does that absolve Indian self-destructive culture (I'd post my redpill folder if I wasn't sure it would result in a forced vacation)? And it doesn't make sense to bitch about material loss then handwave modern infrastructure.This is why Indians make terrible programmers.
>New Avatar is missing a limb due to birth defect/tragic accident>Do they simply make a fully-functioning prosthetic limb for themselves using one of the elements and her proficiency with bending?>Nope, Peggy the Pirate it is
>>154128228>FireDoesn't work for a prosthetic>AirDoesn't work for prosthetic>EarthHas no give(so is basically a worse stone pegleg) and can be bent by any earthbender opponent>WaterWould need to be bent at all times, can be ripped away by waterbenderWood or metal leg makes the most sense, not every waterbender knows how to bend plants, and not all earthbenders can bend metal.This isn't like Ming Hua who can just call up her water arms when she needs them, Pavi needs to actually walk on hers.
>>154121443I have anti-woke fatigue
>>154128342Ming Hua also demonstrated that any waterbender who substitutes their limbs with water is also fatally vulnerable to electricity or lightning.
>>154106596Is technology allowing americans to see the modern india instead of the old pictures from when England was an empire.
>>154105904I only saw a few early episodes of RWBY, I think I stopped after Yang's intro. How bad did it get?
>>154128215>india>the leftNo.
>>154117389>>154124407>>154124534>>154118478>have nothing but contempt for a show about grace and redemption and the struggle against fascismI really dont get what the old fart is ranting about here. is he implying that avatar is failing as a franchise thanks to fascists or people that sympathize with that ideology?
>>154128342Alright, so by your logic:>Air/Waterbender could simply tear the wooden leg right off her body>Earthbender could simply have the ground beneath her swallow up the wooden leg, and because it’s not earth she no way of recovery>Firebender could easily set the wooden leg on fire and leave her looking like AnakinYou’re missing the forest for the trees here.It’s not what WOULD be better than a wooden peg leg, it’s that ANYTHING would be better than a fucking wooden peg leg, especially in this setting.
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>>154104571Yeah, the midseason twist was already leaked.The big twist is: The show was shit the whole time!
>>154128478I think most Americans did not gaf(as in did not feel strongly about it or hate it) about India outside of Boomers who viewed it favorably thanks to the Beatles or something and general orientalism of the mid-late 20th century. From the 90s-2000s I think the more positive view of them was through a few immigrants and stereotypes in media that weren't negative. Lot of Indian side characters were things like doctors or portrayed as studious similarly to other(positive) asian stereotypes. More negative ones didn't start to appear until sometime in the 10s.
>>154128457I mean who isnt fatally vulnerable to electricity and lightning?
>>154112916>Opening FemAang' soul chakra through cervix penetration
>>154128676Zuko tanked a full strike from Azula
>>154128591You’re missing the forest for the trees here.No, not really. Every single argument in favor of an elemental leg is pure rule of cool.>Air/Waterbender could simply tear the wooden leg right off her bodyYes, but they would need to actually hit and target it to pull. And they can do this with any kind of prosthetic. Doesn't mean an element one isn't easier to do so with since a waterbender can just bend the leg itself.>Earthbender could simply have the ground beneath her swallow up the wooden leg, and because it’s not earth she no way of recoveryEartbenders could technically do this to anyone ever, they generally don't because we don't have a plot if they get sunk>Firebender could easily set the wooden leg on fire and leave her looking like AnakinAnd they could set her regular leg on fire easier and to more horrifying effect.>ANYTHING would be better than a fucking wooden peg leg, especially in this setting.Fire leg is impossible, as is air.Rock leg is flat worse than wooden but has a use as a replacement if she loses the wooden one. Water Leg is kinda good but requires constant bending unless you turn it into ice, at which point it harms the remainder of the leg with the chill. And again, a waterbender can just bend the leg.Metal leg is possibly the best, but wooden fits with the character not being of means.
>>154128509Yes. India. The prominently brown-skinned nation that was heralded as "yet another" victim of British colonialism and repurposed to be another cog in the globalist economy who are being migrated to culturally Western countries and rallied behind social justice to call for short-sighted changes to the arts, and also recently had a candidate of their ethnicity run for presidency under the DNC. The left. Thank you for agreeing you braindead retard.
>>154128675Most Americans are starting to associate them with call center scams. Ask an American if they've ever had a robocaller ask "about your cars extended warranty."
>>154127645Which kinda of dumbass shits after showering!?
>>154128983Same anon here, pretty much. I think it started a bit in the 10s but was mostly regulated to ugly Indian men than Indians as a whole(and other surrounding countries). Do not redeem, open bob, parody accounts like the Sanjay Kapoor one, etc. There were also Indians who clearly had just gotten access to the internet for the first time, that one cap of Indian men mistaking classical paintings of naked women as real comes to mind...
this franchise is fucking cursed we need to start from scratch
>>154126854>They're calling for a gay dude to play the Airbender thoMaybe this is part of the reason Paramount and Bryke are clashing? >>154106571 Perhaps Paramount wants to tone down or remove the gay shit and one of them isn't willing to compromise?
>>154104571is this how it ends?
Leakroad dont have the leak they said on their telegram channel
>>154129481Leakroad doesn't have a telegram channel
>>154128215>This is literally just a browned version of a /pol/ anti-jeet meme. that's pretty much every indian meme ever some of the variations are quite funny, really.
>>154105336Aside from Zuko’s mom stuff there really wasn’t anything else to do with the characters. All of them had complete arcs and looking at the Aang movie it’s clear that there isn’t much more to do with those specific characters, but much more to do with the world itself.
>>154129591But is the Seven Havens Leak actually out their or was that a false rumor?
>>154126791The issue with the SW sequels is that they literally did not do any world building. They didn't fail because they didn't do aggressive radical world building, its that they tried nothing and went "AAAAH That didn't work?! The fans didn't like our lack of world building!"That being said, I do like the idea of radical approaches and changes to the new series. Its a good way make each one stand on its own, and at any time they could just create more content in a previous setting. It could be content that exists in its own continuity too so we can see what the world looked like if Korra didn't fuck everything up.
>>154105360Avatar is the patient zero of >Put a chick in it and make her gay!It was the first thing of the 2010s that decided that this action adventure was nice and all...but what we REALLY need is an angry rules breaking asshole lesbian that picks fights with everyone for absolutely no reason at all! Then take the main love interest of the male lead, and make her the lesbian girlfriend!!Like it inspired all media moving forward.This show was basically what Star Wars became a few years later.Then we get a MOTU series about dyke cut Teela becoming He-Man. Adventure Time starring Fiona. Lord of the fucking Rings starring angry angsty Galadriel breaking all the rules!!!
>>154126791That's funny about the sequels, because the prequels had the opposite effect back in the early-to-mid 2000s. Because the GenXers reacted so negatively to them, Hollywood overlearned their lesson and tried not to buck existing trends whenever possible. The Force Awakens being so static in terms of worldbuilding is the capstone to that trend. It's why the one reference to the prequels in TFA is an off-hand threat to retire the Stormtroopers in favor of clones if they can't perform properly. The Last Jedi was comparatively much more willing to incorporate prequel elements.
>>154131713>Like it inspired all media moving forward.You're overegging the case there, but LOK is a fascinating little cultural estuary for that early-to-mid 2010s shift in pop culture. It came about early enough that Nick had very cold feet about the franchise -- there was even this one interview with a Studio Mir director where he openly discusses how the pilot was nearly cancelled mid-production because Nick didn't think a female protagonist worked in an action series. This wasn't even a dark secret or whatever. The show's own promotional material trumpeted the interview as a case of "Look at how progressive we're being!" When nowadays, it'd be a minor scandal if Nick did the same thing.Then, by the time Korra ends, there's enough interest to yuribait Korra and Asami but not enough cultural cover to outright have them do more than hold hands ambigously. It really foreshadowed a lot of the trends that would hit American media 2-3 years down the line, and I think you can chalk that up to Nick giving Bryke more rope to hang themselves than they would with an original IP. The main problem for Nick being that the show performed terribly in the demos they wanted, but they'd already commissioned the last two seasons at that point.
>>154131774Do you think that means, when Disney gets the courage to make another star wars trilogy, they'll try heavily to disavow their previous one?
>>154131859Korrasami was always shit. Had next to zero buildup and Asami has barely any reason to like her after the shit she pulled
Leakroad definitely does have a telegram…. You can google that
>>154131713The similarities are pretty insane when you take a second to think about it. >Korra was the first one to just plain have all the powers without really training or learning them. Which also happened in Star Wars. >Korra was the first cartoon to have surprise lesbians>Korra also had the angry brat protagonist that fought everyone without really any reason to do that. This was copied with most of the later angry brat protagonists later on. >It was also the first series to have the narrative demand viewers take her side and like her, while everything happening kept causing viewers to side with her enemies or the adults she was supposed to tweek the noses of,>And one of the first times the creators used Progressivism as a shield to deflect any element of criticism for their bad writing, poor characterization etc. They just claimed anyone complaining was just sexist...for 3 years.
>>154126791>>154131633The sequel trilogy failed for a lot more pressing reasons than the worldbuilding, but aside from that it's not like they didn't try nothing. Luke went to see some "ancient Jedi texts." The Force Diade got elaborated on and introduced to the main movies. The remnants of the Empire turned into something.
>>154131859>LOK is a fascinating little cultural estuary for that early-to-mid 2010s shift in pop cultureTo add to my point here, Korra's first season had a MASSIVE social media shitstorm over this piece of fanart that showed her firebending. The perception among critics was that the artist was whitewashing Korra. Even Bryke posted about it, going into an extensive discussion of how they worked to safeguard Korra's skin color during animation. It was that big a deal.And because this was "early woke" (what'd have been called SJWs back them), the artist didn't realize the curse she'd called down on herself. She tried to patiently explain how intense fire itself casts colored light, and that tints anything it illuminates--and the response was a lot of black posters decrying her for whitesplaining how their skin worked to them. (Although I think the artist was Korean?)Nowadays, there's a whole script people would follow for something like that, but at the time it really seemed like the artist and her supporters were caught totally flat-footed by accusations of anti-black racism. It was also a signifier of how the fandom had shifted from text-based, small discussion groups on Livejournal to image-based pile-ons on Tumblr.
>>154131713>>154131965It's been a thing that was noticed in "progressive" writing since #notyourshield at around the gamergate time - writers will call themselves progressive and make shit characters, because the quality of the character doesn't matter, and if they fail at writing they can always hide behind derogatory labels and accusations of homophobia/sexism/racism/etc to anyone who points out their shitty character writing.It was going to be a natural consequece of mainstream etertainment adopting the rainbow capitalist banner after the indie scene already paved the way for it. Korra's just so notable because it's the first one that's prominent that checks off all the boxes instead of just "most."
>>154127724moron
>>154128882You're insanely retarded>>154128767The comics don't count
>>154127808>a lot of people overestimating the importance of sharing their opinion on anythingWhat does this even mean? People cant just share their opinion anymore?
>>154131859Tbh, I like Korra a lot and they shot themselves in the foot with her intro. Here we have a 4 year old, who can already bend 3 elements, loudly proclaiming that she is the avatar and that people have to deal with it. Its like they set her out to fail.Imo, they needed to give her an actual journey of learning all the elements. Replace her airbending teacher with an aged up Jinora, have her learn fire bending from Iroh (Zuko's grankid) and maybe have Kuvira teach her earthbending (of course introduce Kuvira earlier). And have some central narrative about how the world is on the brink of political collapse because the earth kingdom is militarizing and the fire nation is still sort of ruled by the kids of the people who were entirely pro Ozai.
>>154112916Shota Toph, let me lick your feet
>>154127808Don't let the door hit you, faggot.
>>154132095Korrafag has no retort, resorts to low-level insults. Many such cases.
>>154111855Korra was running in a time when damn near every cartoon was getting killed. A lot of it is misdirected rage towards an easy scapegoat. Made easier by the last second kiss with Asami.
>>154132304>Made easier by the last second kiss with Asami.The last minute lezzing was engagementbait because nobody cared about the show. Prove me wrong. Protip: you can't because you didn't remember that they didn't even kiss.
>>154132304>last second kiss with AsamiThey didnt even kiss. They pissed off everybody.
>>154132170You can have a smug mary sue protagonist and still make it work if the other people in the show react appropriately and the narrative doesn't keep trying to tell us "No, you should like her". Tendo from Kamen Rider Kabuto is a huge mary sue and he knows it, but his obnoxious attitude and perfectionism annoys the hell out of nearly everyone around him. It helps that at the same time there are strong side characters in Kabuto to root for and Tendo has a lot of positive development.Korra doesn't.
>>154132359>because nobody cared about the showIt got pretty comical how little Nick cared by S4.>>154132170>and maybe have Kuvira teach her earthbending (of course introduce Kuvira earlier)A slow burn riff on the Roku/Sozin friendship would've been pretty neat. Rather than what we got with the "oh shit, the anti-colonalist warlord is too sympathtic, have her set up ethnic cleansing camps and stick her in a giant robot"
>>154132446>too sympathticLmao, no.
>>154132439>the narrative doesn't keep trying to tell us "No, you should like her"Does the narrative even tell us that we should like her? They make her very unlikable in season 2 and she basically loses every important fight she gets into and has to be bailed out.I think the issue here is not that the narrative tries to artificially get us to like Korra but that her supporting cast is so bland and uninteresting that Korra just sort of stands out as obnoxiously animated and flawed.
>>154132446I still cannot believe that they wrote a giant mecha robot with a big fucking laser arm in an Avatar show and they didnt think to themselves "maybe we are kinda off with this one".
>>154132472>Does the narrative even tell us that we should like her?Yes.>she basically loses every important fight she gets into and has to be bailed out.It's pity bait to make you feel bad for her so again, yes, especially when she gets her way anyway.
>>154132500It should have at least looked like a giant moving statue instead. It make no sense for it to look like an Sci Fi mecha right out of that shitty Trollhunter spin off about aliens.
>>154132501But they write her as explicitly unlikable and in the wrong in season 2 and the whole series is just people telling her that she sucks and we see onscreen that she sucks. Thats not typically how mary sue storylines go.
>>154132531Don't the people who tell her she sucks either end up portrayed as asshole or apologize to her later?
>>154132512A giant terracotta soldier would have been amazing.
>>154132544No, not really. Korra is essentially on suicide watch by the end of season 3
>>154132544> portrayed as assholeWell, I guess the villains are assholes but I think a lot of the moments where Amon, or Zaheer, or Kuvira tell her she sucks are framed as them being sort of right about their assesment>apologize to herTenzin only apologizes to her after she kinda rectifies her behavior.And she is portrayed as entirely in the wrong in season 2 when she sides with Unalaq when everybody else sees that he is obviously evil.
>>154132531>Thats not typically how mary sue storylines go.Broadly, the Korra/Tenzin relationship was meant to be a riff on the Zuko/Iroh one. That's partly why Mako was set up as her love interest when the show was meant to be a single season--it was meant to be Zutara-ish.The problem is that Bryke aren't the greatest writers on their own. They're art and action guys. So, where Zuko had very clear-cut reasons for being angry all the time, Korra's were more circumspect. To the extent Korra has a coherent arc over S1 and the show as a whole, it's that she's afraid she has no identity outside of being the Avatar. That's why all the villains do something that undermine or corrupt her responsibilities as Avatar. It's why she cries at the end of S3 when Tenzin tries to tell her that she can rest while the Air Nomads pick up her slack--he's basically confirming her worst fears.The problem is that Zuko confronts his daddy issues and chills the fuck out. Korra gets a lot of pep talks, but the underlying issue is... she really DOESN'T have an identity outside being the Avatar. Her friends and romance should pick up that slack, but the overall plot only gestures at that stuff.
>>154132559You can even keep the big laser, just have it activate giant runes filled with spirit juice before firing.
>>154132559>>154132677It would even make more sense with Kuvira's mocap bending controls for it.
>>154132677>>154132696If they were going to get retarded in the finale, then the least they could have done was Kuvira get juiced on Spirit Steroids and start chucking around skyscrapers. Then Korra goes full Avatar State to oppose her, demonstrating all the self-control she's learned to defeat Anti-Avatar #2 without levelling the city she's trying to save.
>>154132643>she really DOESN'T have an identity outside being the Avatar. That was a huge issue of them deciding to yadda-yadda over her Avatar journey and have it just be “she trained on a white lotus compound her whole life”. Compared to Aang, Korra had no life, no friends, or ties to ANYTHING until she gets to republic city. There’s no equivalent for Korra for things like Aang reconnecting with Bumi, realizing his absence in the world completely changed it, or him having to accept massive changes.
>>154132643Thanks for the analysis, anon. That was interesting to read. I actually want to do a marathon of the mid 2010s beginning of the culture war bullshit. I havent watched the star wars sequels in like 10 years.
>>154129217>Perhaps Paramount wants to tone down or remove the gaywhychuddies too angry?
>>154131713I thought it all started with Ghostbusters
>>154132745It wouldn't even be that retarded since it has precedent with Sozin's comet and Ozai's bullshit during it.
>>154132754>or ties to ANYTHING until she gets to republic cityShe's got her mascot animal like Appa but he's utterly irrelevant.
>>154118233>a ton of disgruntled employeeswhy would they be disgruntled?I guess being angry at Paramount but why undermine their own work?
>>154118809Go back to fucking kids E;R
>>154131947No, their telegram got banned a long time ago
>>154132925t. Malding, obsessed troon
>>154132589>And she is portrayed as entirely in the wrong in season 2 when she sides with Unalaq when everybody else sees that he is obviously evil.I make people angry when I point out that Korra is partially to blame for being manipulated. Its not all of her fault, of course, but its up to all of us to resist manipulation, and its not like she's a child. If Aang got maniplated by Unalaq, everyone would call him a retard, and he's like 13. Korra's like 19 to 22 or something.
>>154133477>If Aang got maniplated by Unalaq, everyone would call him a retardAang never really gets manipulated like that, though. The closest we get in the main series that I can recall is Hama and Katara, which I don't think I've ever seen anyone fault against Katara. It seems to be more likely for Aang to manipulate people.
>>154132643Secretly, Korra's main character flaw is that she's very immature. Its interesting because the writers knows she's immature, and they know why, but they don't see how big of a problem with it.Imagine Korra but instead she's a 35 year old Alcoholic who mistreats her kids. But instead of this being seen as her main flaw, its treated as just a minor hill for her to climb over. The reality is, the show should sit her down and say "Korra, your problems are what's keeping you down and you need to fix it", and then the whole show would revolve around her fixing her alcoholism and relationship with her kids. This is her exact problem now, except with immaturity. Except for sitting her down and saying "Your problem is that you're a 19 year old 9 year old", they treat her immaturity as a small character flaw and a quirky thing played or comedy.
>>154133477Zaheer and the Red Lotus were also manipulated by Unalaq. It’s his fault they all were imprisoned
>>154133519That's my point though. I said "If it happened, people would complain and he'd deserve it. But when it happened to Korra, they acted like she simply could not fend for herself."
>>154133588I misread. Carry on.
>>154127497why go through the trouble of making it your own project?
Any update on the Seven Haven leaks? Are they actually online or is that rumor false?
>>154133582And you never hear anyone go "Oh, poor Zaheer! What could he do to resist Unalaq's manipulation?". Instead, they treat him like he's a grown ass man. As I said before, its Korra that gets treated like she's a defenseless child who can't fend for herself.Meanwhile, the next Avatar is either one kid or two, and I bet they still won't be treated as softly as Korra is by some of the fans.>>154133684>why go through the trouble of making it your own project?Porn or not, you should make a comic that takes plot points from the show beat for beat, but either satirizes them or handle them in a smarter way that the show does. I'm calling it now, that show is not going to be any good.
>>154132500No one that would attempt to explain why an idea needed to be reworked was allowed into the writers room, only sycophants
>>154133684I just don't like the sympathy bait, tiny, crippled Avatar. I feel like all of her shit is going to revolve around her trying to do shit and struggling and we're supposed to consistently go "Aww, poor avatar!" Weirdly enough, Korra was like that too, but I'm just ready to have protagonists that can fail and just hold the L and the situation is used as character development.
>>154113075>the premise of the setting is that benders are now rare and constantly being drafted into the city's military force, including the children.Amon won, bros. Total bender subjugation.
>>154113603> Retconned the Avatar from a nature deity to just being some generic sPiRiT oF lIgHt fused with some guyThats literally a nature deity you fucking moron. The Avatar was always defined by their humanity first and foremost. Watch the fucking show instead of letting brainlets form your opinion
>>154120305Its because he is regurgitating points from that dipshit E;R. He needs youtubers to tell him what to think.
>>154133477>Korra is partially to blame for being manipulatedYeah and I think the series is very explicit that she is a dumbass for blindly trusting Unalaq. Its kinda part of her character that she isnt a thinker, she is just a 'hit things really hard and hope that solves the problem' sort of person and that leaves her open to manipulation from others.
>>154134647people would have been less critical if unalaq didn't look as trustworthy as fucking Palpatine
>>154134148this picture contain 1 gay man and 1 brown female handicapped female with the authority.this reeks of DEI.
>>154134433>Thats literally a nature deity you fucking moron.It's not, it's a glowing magic mexican / alien, nothing else
>>154134479And you need need to cut yourself to cope with everyone, this thread included, agree that LOK is worthless irredeemable dogshit and Korra is a whore.
>>154113603> Retconned the Avatar from a nature deity to just being some generic sPiRiT oF lIgHt fused with some guyHow exactly is an embodiment of light and order not a nature deity . Its literally a fundamental aspect in every asian culture. Do you know what you are even arguing brother. Then again im talking about 4chan here.
>>154134843No one is taking opinions from the sewer of the internet seriously . Shit no one even takes E;R seriously.
>>154134647I don't think its as explicit as it needs to be. Or, I mean that the series doesn't really realize how dumb or immature Korra is, and how things are her fault for that reason. Its tough to explain, but its like the writers misidentified what Korra's main character growth required, while still realizing her childishness was a problem. My argument is "it wasn't A problem, it was THE problem".
>>154134828Bro’s just typing shit
>>154133477She’s caught between multiple people who are trying to control and manipulate her. Unalaq and her dad/tenzin. They were the ones who locked her up in a compound, and lied to her about it her whole life. And then using Aang as a scapegoat. She wasnt really that much at fault.
>>154135058At its core, this is what I dislike the most about Korra. How can you have a protagonist who's mostly never at fault when it comes to her issues? In a way, she's mostly not a character because, when it comes to the core issues she faces, people resort to saying "Oh well, what can be done? No one could have reasonably avoided that situation".This is no Luke Skywalker making the choice to challenge Vader and then getting bodied. Luke could have listened to Yoda, heck he should have, but he didn't and paid the price.With Korra, she's mostly a victim and instead of locking in and saying "I must change my ways!" its "well, its this guys fault, and that guy's fault, and that guys fault, so really, what can she do?"
>>154127808This is the sewer of the internet for a reason. You shouldnt be taking anyone’s opinions on here seriously.
>>154135148The fundamental issue with korra discourse is how many people just dont engage with the actual text like you and have to say “oh this person sucks or this person sucks” instead if actually analyzing the damn story. You havent given a real reason why she shouldnt have trusted her uncle when she finds out her parents and mentor have been lying to her since day one. Or when he seemingly solves issues they are struggling with. Or ignores how she does quickly learn she was wrong and turns against her uncle. Almost like theres a nuance here. But nah agenda posting it where its at
>>154128228Using your powers to make yourself a makeshift prostetic doesn't work because you would need to ALWAYS concentrate on keeping it together and moving it around. The monent your concentration slips you fall on your ass (or face). Should I explain why this would be a significant detriment during fights, chases or any other action sequences, or will you be able to figure that out on your own?
>>154135247I think a lot of people who shittalk Korra as a mary sue writer's pet character have not seen anything beyond the first couple episodes. Korra spends 90% of her own series eating shit, being publicly humiliated, being saved by others, being told that she sucks and failing at pivotal points. There is a LOT wrong with LoK, but Korra herself being a Mary Sue isnt one. She really isnt, she was just introduced as one because the writers are idiots.
>>154134479E;R at least cites his sources AND makes immature personal attacks. You only do one of those, and I ain't seeing any sources.The simple fact is that if E;R wasn't liked by the right you dumubfuck reddit migrants would all cheer for his videos and agree with them unconditionally.
>>154135247>The fundamental issue with korra discourse is how many people just dont engage with the actual text like you and have to say “oh this person sucks or this person sucks” instead if actually analyzing the damn story.I've given some of the most important critiques on The Legend of Korra here. I'm explaining why I don't like the protagonist from a writing standpoint and why I don't like how fans interact with her.Yes, she had no reason to not trust her uncle. Still, I think that makes for a poor protagonist since it basically absolves her of any guilt, and so there's little neat character work that can be done there. My solution would have been "Do not write that like that", and I think its a fair opinion. I even compared it to something in Star Wars to explain what I would have preferred, and I used an interaction with family to do it. I'm giving it all I got here, I'm not just agenda posting.And Its not like the story would be good just because I say "Oh yeah, Korra definitely had nothing she could do there." No, I didn't give a reason for why she shouldn't have trusted him because she should have trusted him. But I think that's written in a way that's boring and absolves her of too much guilt/robs her of the needed character growth.
>>154134148why are all earthbenders full of problems and mental illness?toph> blindghazan> blackbolin> extra chromosomepavi> handicapped
>>154134984And yet you're the one everyone disagrees with and mocks lmao.>>154134895>an embodiment of light and orderLiteral headcanon, no such thing in LOK.
>>154135184Keep spamming and replying to yourself as your only supporter, it's totally gonna make someone think LOK isn't garbage one day (lmao, no, it won't).
Is there a link yet?
>>154135399“Cites his sources”. Lmao sureYou just come off as a sad E;R fanboy. Bro is irrelevant in 2026. Make up your own arguments and stop letting dumbass chuds think for you
>>154135473>Stop saying true things because someone who make me shit blood said it too!!!!Not gonna happen, Whorra is garbage.
>>154135411And by "She should have trusted him", I mean "It makes perfect sense for Korra to trust her uncle, its entirely his fault that he betrayed her, and Korra is a cute small bean who did no wrong". All true, 100% of it. And that's a fucking snoozer, its a solved problem, and it also obscures Korra's main character flaw: she's naive and childish. Now we get to the Agenda posting.I sincerely do believe Korra is portrayed like a woman child, and it makes sense. Aang was really mature for his age, and Korra is really immature for her age. The problem is that immaturity is the root of all of her pain but the writers don't seem to know that, or they don't think its that big of a deal. Korra would be a dramatically better protagonist if this wasn't the case, or maybe the writers thought they solved that problem while still putting her in situations where the problem shows up again?
>>154135441On a site that everyone thinks is full of basement dwelling incels? Oh man how will I survive?And headcanon is apparently citing and quoting the show. You just arent very bright.
>>154134433Unironically, kill yourself redditspacer. >>154113930And, no, it's not "lItErAlLy a nAtuRe dEiTy" you retard. If we can be pedantic for a moment, the spirit of "light" is not an embodiment of nature; nature is cruel and uncaring, and doesn't give two shits if a village of humans and horde of spirits wipe each other out because it exists outside of our abstractions of what is "good" and "evil." The dynamic Raava introduces fundamentally changes WHAT the Avatar is supposed to embody.Second, it's not a deity. The Avatar in this case isn't anymore special than Raava, who we don't really know anything about other than the reincarnation. The human part is inconsequential to that goal since the Avatar's purpose is arbitrary to Wan's mistake. Any individual Avatar does not matter to Raava in this dynamic because of this, and the Avatar is inconsequential to the greater worldbuilding. The older pitch is drastically different; Aang's purpose is to be an Avatar of the spirit of the world in order to understand humanity; Aang's human experiences thus are directly felt and displayed by said deity, and does not exist outside of it. The difference is that the Wan canon meerly USES a spirit, while the original canon has the Avatar AS the spirit.Does that make sense or do you need an anime vtuber/pngtuber to spoonfeed it further you dumb fuck?
>>154135500I agree E;Rs whorra videos are garbage. I’m glad we agree
>>154135506Thing is that Aang was forced to mature, we saw a lot of it in book1 as he was trying to find who would teach him the elements.Giving Korra access to more than 1 element at such a young age for a gap robbed the audience of a lot of story telling and cool moments when we could actually give a shit about her.
>>154135526>Oh man how will I survive?By crying, begging and cutting yourself it seems.>YOU WEREN'T SUPPOSED TO POINT OUT MY HEADCANON WAS A HEADCANON!!!!You're desperate.
>>154135473>"Cites his sources”. Lmao sureUh, yeah, you dumbfuck Redditor, he does. You can see them in the video. Hell, I was able to find one of his sources and repost them in this thread.Kill yourself you raging tranny. Seriously, what are you even doing here? Do you think throwing a tard rage is going to make people like Korra?
>>154135526>On a site that everyone thinks is full of basement dwelling incels?What are YOU doing here then you Reddit tranny?
>>154135584>Giving Korra access to more than 1 element at such a young age for a gap robbed the audience of a lot of story telling and cool moments when we could actually give a shit about her.Seems like almost all the issues with this series can be traced back to the fact that the writers initially thought they would only get one season. So they thought the whole series would just be Korra learning air for one season and thats it. But then they got more seasons and basically had to redraft the whole thing and it really shows.
>>154135563I'm sorry you will die without a single person ever agreeing with you about Whorra, the garbage show everyone hates.
>>154135626>the writers initially thought they would only get one season.That's a myth. They always knew they were getting more seasons. It all can be traced back to the writers sucking.
>>154135584Yeah, and that's another issue worth highlighting with this whole thing. At the end of the day, my frustration circles back to "we are just robbed of interesting character moments with Korra". That's not to say she has none, but a lot of the big ones are just passed over for one reason or another.When Korra lost her 3 bending elements, she should have finally been able to let go and use air. We could have gotten an episode or two about that, and then when she rematched Amon, she beats him with air bending tech and smart thinking. OR, lol, she just shadowboxes air bending at him LMAO.With her uncle betraying her, it could have instead been some other closer confidant where she could reasonably have said no to him, but in trusting him and assuming he had her best intentions at heart, he took advantage of her and betrayed her trust. Instead, LMAO, its her fucking uncle, what do you expect?
>>154135647Nickelodeon originally only ordered one season, maybe the writers could guess they would get more but it was uncertain.
>>154135626The sad part is that you can tell that Korra actually had some interesting ideas behind it, but they were often sidelined for some of the dumbest shit and not allowed to breath. Sato being a villain was cool and reminded me of that one Avatar PS2 game. The Red Lotus' members individually were cool. Spiritual imbalance as a theme had potential. None of this needed a repeat world tour arc, it needed someone in the writer's room reigning everything in.
>>154135673Nickelodeon already confirmed that was bullshit and had already engaged to order more, which is why they were stuck despite even season 1 being a flop.
>>154135683Yeah, my main gripe with Korra is all the lost potential. There is a lot of interesting stuff in it but for every interesting concept, there is two botched ones. For every interesting character, there are two duds and for every interesting set up, there are two awful payoffs. It also really doesnt help that the series fucks up the world building that makes the original so interesting.
>>154135725>It also really doesnt help that the series fucks up the world building that makes the original so interesting.Anon the world building was thrown out of the window the moment they introduced that shitty Wan arc.
>>154135793Yeah, I just do my best to ignore that whole thing
>>154135545You fundamentally do not understand what I just said. Light is a fundamental aspect of nature. Nature is not just pure destruction and destruction. It exists as a order, but that does not mean all good and harmony. Nothing about Raava’s light was ever good and merciful. Humans were still nearly wiped out in her order. Look at hinduism, the world exists in a cosmic cycle of light and dark.The Avatar has always been fundamentally driven by their humanity, which is only reinforced with what we saw in Korra. When Yangchen talks to Aang about the concept of the Avatar she makes a point to mention how their humanity is what drives them to seek trie balance and understand how precious himan life is. And why the avatar has to be a human instead of a all knowing spirit. We see this with Raava didnt give a single fuck about humanity when she first met wan, and had to learn the hard way how she was wrong about humanity. That had to be spelt out in the shitty finale, the avatar as a whole was and always was driven by their humanity. Also she has nothing to do with reincarnation. That was a thing that happens to all life. Jesus christ are you a moron or what. This just reinforces that you need to watch the show and stop letting stupid youtubers inform your opinions retard. No way you actually passed any english class with media literacy as shit as yours.Tldr; you loud and wrong. Jump off a building.
>>154135592The source was wrong lmao, its was abandoned before ATLA had even aired lmaoo
>>154135814>Jump off a buildingFollow your own advice with your shitty fanfic.
>>154135606Calling y’all basement dwelling incels is fun.
>>154135896Shitty fanfic = I got no argument Retard
>>154135943You indeed have no argument, good job admitting it.>>154135920You crying tears of blood would indicate otherwise.
>>154136013Im glad you admit you dont have actual arguments. First step to improving media literacy friend.
>>154118478Yes we must defend the honor of the CEOs.
Any updates on the Seven Haven leaks?
>>154136192Yes, they say it's already on the Leakroad platform. Leakroad is the same group that leaked The Amazing Digital Circus: The Last Act three weeks ago
>>154135814>Light is a fundamental aspect of nature.You can say that about almost anything else. I say "almost" because, no, in this sense "Light" is metaphorical. Vaatu being destroyed does not cause darkness to disappear as a concept; Raava being destroyed did not cause literal light to be destroyed as Tui's death caused the moon to disappear. I'm sorry remembering something from season 1 is too much.>reinforced with what we saw in Korra.For a retard who lead by whining "you don't understaaand my point," you did a great job skipping mine! Let me repeat: In Korra's canon of the Avatar's nature, the human is entirely inconsequential because it's just Raava bonding to a mortal, where-as in AtLA's canon the human cannot be seperated from the "Avatar Spirit" because they are the same being.You're doing exactly the same shit I accused you of back in >>154120305. (You) don't engage with the points in front of you, you just repeat basic plot elements without relating them to your point or demonstrating how they refute anyone talking to you. It's very annoying to read.>and had to learn the hard way how she was wrong about humanityBut she doesn't become human. She exists alongside humans, but never actually lives as one, because the show makes it apparent that she's only really united with her host in the Avatar State, which in itself got retconned in its source.>she has nothing to do with reincarnationYeah she does you fucking idiot. She's still present in the reincarnated human host of the Avatar for that generation. We don't know anything about this process or where Raava comes from other than "it happens," which was my point. It demystifies the Avatar but raises even more questions.>and stop letting stupid youtubers inform your opinionsBut you would have no problems with people listening to you, a revisionist immature virgin Reddit migrant?E;R isn't the only one who pointed these out. You're just obsessed with him because he makes fun of the left.
>>154135920Malding cope for being a clown.
>>154135590> By crying, begging and cutting yourself it seemsProjection is a hell of a thing> I CANT THINK OF AN ARGUMENT, SHIT LETS JUST SAY HEAD-CANNONI can smell the desperation from here. Its kinda sad at this point
>>154136331>I can smell the desperation from hereMeant for >>154135920
>>154135883>its was abandoned before ATLA had even airedIf it was, then fansites wouldn't have been able to pull it from Nick.comPlease, can just ONE of you Korrafag posters just use your head?
>>154136056>No u!Sad and desperate.
>>154136237Is Seven Haven being on Leakroad essentially confirmed at this point or is this a rumor that seems to have merit? I remember The Amazing Digital Circus fully leaking faster once it was on leakroad. Will the episodes eventually leak to the rest of the internet?
>>154136331>NO U!!!! *cut himself even more*Lol. Lmao.>YOU DESTROYED MY HEADCANON AND IT MADE ME SAD!!!!Nobody cares.
>>154124649>this thread is worthlessIs it really that worthless when It's the only avatar thread in such a while to reach bump limit and get 500+ replies.
>>154136410There probably won't be any re-upload from Leakroad. This isn't The Amazing Digital Circus most people simply don't care about Avatar: Seven Havens.On top of that, after what happened with the Aang movie, people are afraid to post leaks. So don't be surprised if there ends up being no public leak at all and those episodes remain on Leakroad forever.
>>154136410Does anyone have access to Leakroad to confirm whether or not Seven Havens is there?
>>154136518The Amazing Digital Circus re-upload from leakroad only after a whole week, so be patient
>>154135814>Also she has nothing to do with reincarnation. That was a thing that happens to all life. Jesus christ are you a moron or what.I want to doublepost on this one because you sure are vitriolic for someone who just shot their argument with a Catch-22.The idea that all life reincarnates is just something you made up on the spot. We actually have no confirmation that anyone besides the Avatar reincarnates. The reincarnation of any form of life is not hinted at in any part of the show, in either series (except in season 2, where the threat of having a spirit destroyed and permanent erasure is brought up, but it's never mentioned if this is in contrast to some kind of afterlife, reincarnation, or regardless oblivion). So, we have one option: Humans do not reincarnate, Raava will randomly inhabit one when her host dies, and thus the presence of the Avatar is tied to Raava.The other option is that we take for granted that all humanity reincarnates. In this, Raava still needs to be present in order to differentiate a human from the Avatar. In this case, the human is not spiritually any different than Wan was, and Raava is still the main factor behind making someone the Avatar, and can exist without that human (hence Raava retains a connection to the previous Avatars, and striking her erases that connecion).In EITHER of these two cases, the role of the human is to host Raava, rather than act as an embodiment of her. In any of the cases you present, yes, Raava has little to do with the cycle of reincarnation, and that's a problem for the narrative.
>>154118663Katara is a girlboss. She overwhelmed Azula twice in battles to the death.
>>154135671Its funny because the immaturity and thing with her bending could have been solved with one stroke. Arrogantly, she challenges Amon and gets folded, like there was nothing she could do, and she lost her bending. She goes from being the Avatar to a nobody and shes...fine. She's fine with it. The thing she was afraid of happened, and she's okay, she's alive.So, without any bending, she decides to continue to focus on her physical health and such, and she learns that she can now do minor airbending. She didn't have airbending before, so those chi pathways or whatever were never open, and so they couldn't be closed by Amon, and so they could naturally open themselves. And with that in mind, she trains with Tenzin to further develop her airbending, and then its time to rematch Amon.I imagine she'd win because she'd stick to 99% martial arts to fight him, and when she think's he's in a vulnerable position, she shoots a powerful blast of air and breaks his ribs. He'd be genuinely surprised because his first thought would be that the Avatar has progressed so much that she's able to undo his chi blocking, but really she would have just been clever with what little she had. That shows maturity, intelligence, and it actually develops her character.
>>154136435Yes because most of it is just the one dude who likes LOK waging war against everyone
>>154136678And Zuko beat Katara's ass twice, so what?>>154136596>The reincarnation of any form of life is not hinted at in any part of the show,LOK actually contradict it by showing us the spirit of a dead Iroh who very much didn't reincarnate.
>>154136678I think people forget that, in the past, Katara's OP nature was also heavily critiqued. She was only good at what she did because the plot needed her to be, meanwhile Zuko's a prince with fantastic training and Toph trained with badgermoles, the literal progenitors of earth bending.
>>154136742I did talk a few times about how Katara lowkey get retconned into a prodigy after a while because everyone else in the group was one except Sokka.But Zuko still beats her ass most of the time, including under Ba Sing Se.
>>154136303> Raava being destroyed did not cause literal light to be destroyed as Tui's death caused the moon to disappear.Because you cant destroy light and dark. They are fundamental aspects in all aspects of life. Thats why darkness lives and grows and raava and vice versa. Thats why Wan dies in a war at the end, because you cant erase darkness. You cant erase light. Thats why they literally say “there’s light in the dark, there’s darkness in light”. I’m sorry remembering something from two episodes is too much. >In Korra's canon of the Avatar's nature, the human is entirely inconsequential because it's just Raava bonding to a mortal, where-as in AtLA's canon the human cannot be seperated from the "Avatar Spirit" because they are the same being.Nothing about the human is inconsequential because the humanity is the literal driving force of the avatar. >But she doesn't become human. She exists alongside humans.She doesnt have to be a human, what are you even arguing here? We see her disregard humanity as nothing more than a bug at first, and come to appreciate human life to the point where she bonds with a human to help the world. Its why I bring up Yangchen in my argument, Raava is a flawed spirit who is only concerned about spirits. She doesnt value human life. Her experiences with Wan make her see the good in humanity. >she has nothing to do with reincarnationYeah she does you fucking idiot.No she doesnt dipshit. She says she will be there for all of his lifetimes. She doesnt create reincarnation as a concept, its always been a thing in the world. That’s why you dont see all of the dead humans in the spirit world. If you’re gonna critique the worldbuilding it helps to actually understand whats going on. >E;R isn't the only one who pointed these out. You're just obsessed with him because he makes fun of the left.Yes I hate dumb youtuber cause they are dumb. Sound argument. I’m sorry I made fun of your idol.
>>154136370Nope the literal art book from the creators says it was scrapped before it was aired. Thinking isnt your strong suit is it?
>>154136518No they’re renovating the site or whatever so we gotta wait
>>154136737>Zuko beat Katara's ass twice hot!
>>154136854>HE IS DUMB!!!!And yet he's smarter than you, weird. You must hate yourself even more then.
>>154137276Of courseThat's why I cut myself
