Why are some people so obsessed with this character? I get that she can be drawn very sexily, but so can any other character. Red heads in comics are a dime a dozen. It just seems like some Spider-Man fans give zero shits about Spider-Man and only ever want to read flowery dialogue from Mary Jane.
>>154104639Black Cat will always be superior
>>154104645I agree
>>154104645..at being a whore.
>>154104639Michelle Jones mogs
>>154104639probably because the marriage was undone by means of the worst character assassination in comics rivaled only by the Pym slapnobody would've been this hung up if Marvel has just Crisis on Infinite Earth'd it
>>154104639Mary Jane used to be fun incarnate, and then actual real character work was done where the fun was also a mask for deeper issues that better writers explored and worked with to make her relatable but also fearful of Peter, the commitment and responsibility she was both yearning for but terrified of due to what she saw growing up. Thus compelling drama but also a rock upon which Peter could rely upon when events were feeling too much for him. Peter's greatest champion and a cause for him to crawl out of a grave.Of course since OMD she's nothing now. She's not a partner. She's not really a person. They still to this day don't know what to do with her, because her natural chemistry is a magnet for Peter. They invent contrived and contradicting reasons to keep her away, but never far enough they can't cash in on her still enduring popularity. A popularity enduring despite a multi-decades character assassination by the same cabal who laugh at the thought of her getting raped and murdered.She's a useful nothing tool in the BND toybox to sell variety covers and give angst to Peter. The football that Lucy the editor invites fans to run at. Just laugh at the increasing irrelevance of 616 to anything Spider-Man, and wait a few decades more for the gnarled hands of hack writers to finally be pulled off.
>>154104639TFW you’ll never have a sexy redhead GF like MJ.
>>154105060>OP feigns inquiry>Gets actual response>Ignored>Everyone later: Why is /co/ dyingMm.
>>154105702Depends on which MJ. She has distinct characters at this point.Pre OMD? Short of the usual suspects kicking and screaming in the 90's, she's S-tier.Post? Ooft. Breaks things off due to your Superhero career and then goes to be Tony's aid. And that's only the start of the nonsense.
>>154104866>nobody would've been this hung up if Marvel has just Crisis on Infinite Earth'd itSliding timeline was a mistake. It's physical impossible for Peter to be under 30 and Dylan and Normie to be the ages they are unless Peter graduated high school at 16.
>>154104866If they had just divorced due to Superheroics proving too much for MJ, it would have sucked to read and be a major crimp in previous characterisation for MJ, but it would be understandable.However they didn't want to harm their product by marring it with divorce, far better a diabolical pact. Ironically cementing the relationship as that of Soulmates, where any relationship that isn't them is in fact a scenario where the devil won. The Gwenfags ironically ascended her rival to that of a heavenly approved relationship.
>>154104777>MOG: related to AMOG and manosphere>AMOG: Alpha male of the groupAh yes. Quite apt. That jawline is quite massive and she is quite unfeminine.
>>154107984What are you doing on 4chan gramgram.Time for your medicine and sleeptime.
>>154105785Such many cases.Anyways, total KKKuesada death
>>154104744Just like Gwen!
>>154108101>supposed progressives ruining comics>the most obvious and healthy polygamy right fucking there to establishCowards and hackfrauds all. Progs get your act together.
>>154104639At this point, it's just a pissing match with marvel. MJfans are the equivalent of boomers yelling at clouds nowadays.
>>154108004Sorry retards like you needed the dictionary definition to understand I also wanted all the israelis and jeets in the back to also understand what I meant.
>>154108259m80 the rest of the franchise puts them together, it's the 616 gen exers and boomers who hate their wives who are the last redoubt.
>>154108322calm down unc
>>154104639because the marriage was ended by a analog for satan for no real creative desire, just to piss people off and generate interest. and theyre still doing it today with making her venom, its still purely based on the resentment from one more day and knowing that created a 'will they/wont they' and its on purpose because they know there was no proper resolution to the character
>>154108782Whatever you tell yourself.
>>154104639Remember those ain't spider-man fans, only marywhorefags.
>>154108259>MJfans are the equivalent of boomers yelling at clouds nowadays.This is what Gen X Marvel employees really believe
>>154109289It's really projection.Unless Spoffice really does think we're all in on Shay.
>>154109381Shay's been gone, we're on the yellow alien girl and Peter's coworker now
>>154108914>>154108322time for your meds, gramps
>>154111446Shay left him on read, I unironically think we will never see her in Kelly's run and likely will never see her ever again.We have two extremes, Wells sadboi korma eater and Kelly's saintly clueless doofus harem protagonist.
>>154104777>OCBetter than being compared to Shameik I guess.
>>154104639It’s genuinely a culture war from before the culture wars. Marvel breaking them up because it makes Peter “too old” to be married with kids is anti-family, anti-natalist and gay.
>>154105702Fixed
>>154111462Nope. >Implying you can't even get an old man to take his medsQuite impotent and ineffectual you are, faggot.>Implying I am old for defining mog to show how ugly Zendaya is as MJYep if that makes me old then I'm ancient as fuck.
>>154109381Shay is banging Randy now since Peter ghosted her.
She's a great character and played a huge part in Peters growth. But marvel doesn't care about Peter as a character anymore.
>>154114465MJ is for Miles now.
because MJ is a hot redhead. She's amazing. Screw anyone who doesn't like her.
>>154114486they're gonna pair her with Black Cat. Calling it now. And I hate to say I'd be ok with that because she has some natural chemistry with Felicia since they're both used to the trauma of being in Spidey's circle and have gone from enemies to besties. And Felicia seems to be in full lesbian mode for pride.
>They turned her daughter into a cat.60 Years of wasted potentional.
>>154114604Your autistic obsession with Felicia being full lesbian for pride month is one of the less annoying autistic obsessions on /co/.
>>154104639A dishonest question from a dishonest stand point from some ignorant prick who doesn't know what they're talking about. You're a waste of time. I bet you made this post out of boredom and then went back to your usual habit of doom scrolling while chugging mtn dew and doritos when you didn't get the instant feed back you wanted out of this.
>>154109248>>154114486Kill yourself.
>>154114728Have you not read the latest books? She's like a total lesbian nympho the way Wilson is writing her.
>>154104645>pretends to marry him to escapeNo.
Instead of Deadpool or Punisher Kills the Marvel Universe.What about a Debbie Does Dallas type miniseries?Mary Jane Makes Out with Marvel.Stories of MJ with different Marvel men:WolverineLuke CagePunisherDeadpoolMagnetoStrong GuyMultiple ManWar MachineBrother VoodooBetsy and Rachel Impossible ManAdam WarlockDoc SamsonThe Hulk
>>154115518Keep Luke Cage, War Machine and Brother Voodoo and replace the rest with T'challa, Miles Morales, Sam Wilson, Cloak, Blade, Blue Marvel, Bishop, Synch, Isaiah Bradley, Tombstone, and Paul Rabin made-up like Robert Downey Jr. in Tropic Thunder and you've got yourself a deal.
>>154115518Black cat has already done this.
>>154104639Because Mary Jane has become to Spider-Man what Lois Lane is to Superman. You literally can not pair either character with a different love interest and make it work. Remember during new52 when DC tried to make Superman and Wonder Woman a couple and everyone fucking hated it and it sunk sales? Now imagine DC trying to keep that going for twenty goddamn years.
>>154115649What about Moses Magnum?
>>154115688Didn't know who that is, but he's invited too as long as he doesn't bring any of his surname. Or any other brands, before you start feeling cheeky.
>>154115518Black Cat would be the one to write about for that one.She's already the Bicycle of 616
>>154115649What about Beta Ray Bill?Does he get a pass?
>>154115751Why yes, because Thor will be spending the entire time hitting Peter in the junk with Mjolnir, so Bill can help Thor with that.
>>154104639>Why are some people so obsessed with this character?Because she was one of the few genuinely good things in Peter's miserable life. Writers back then knew this which is probably one of the reasons why the clone saga was meant to end with Peter losing his powers and Ben taking up the mantle originally. Lazy fucks like Bendis, Quesada, and Slott like to say "Peedur is more interesting when he's single and lonely!" but that's just their copium for them being misery fetishists who think all superheroes should be like the ones from The Boys. >>154104645>muh black catBlack Cat fags are pathetic because they want to self-insert as Peter instead of just goon it to Felicia's fat ass like normal people do. Fuck off.
>>154114946It's the pride month thing that makes me laugh, not the observation that she has primarily been shown with women lately.
>>154115840I think Bendis is one of the pro-marriage writers.
>>154113768time to log off the internet, old man. You need to take your nap. Else you get very cranky.
>>154116250Can confirm this anon is some weird gay fetishist who likes domming old men but ends up getting beaten by canes and writhing on the sides of roads after trying to sneak into retirement homes. His name? Tom Brevoort.
>>154116446thanks for proving my point, gramps
>>154116508Get mogged.
>>154116508>>154116533Dubs confirm. This anon >>154116508 tries to fellate old men and gets beaten by orderlies and old men and then cries into his hat and then posts on his substack.
80s/90s kids can't get over her. Felicia's better, btw.
>>154116608Better at getting railed on Luke Cage's couch.
>>154108092Sins past is longer canon retard in fact it never was.
>>154104639Read Parallel Lives
The better questions is why do people hate MJ so much? Any writers and editorial at Marvel are welcome to chime in.
>>154118398Much better question why not just give up on MJ they are not going to fix her just make he worse hell they even made her a fucking killer.
>>154115518How about a spin on Scott Pilgrim vs the World where Mary Jane has to fight evil versions of Peter’s exes.>Black Cat >Silk>Gwen Stacy (Mysterio)>Carlie Cooper (Monster)>Betty Brant (Hobgoblin)>Carol Danvers (Venom)>Michele Gonzales (Chameleon)
>>154118616give it up retards thye will only make MJ worse much WORSE why the fuck does this even thread even exist?
>>154104639At this poinyt i find Porn parody movies to be more amusing and better then current spider-man crap.
>>154118660If you keep replying, they're going to keep making these threads. You can win by not posting.
>>154114728Ironic that you say that since I'm the standard person who bitches about her being a lesbian, and that wasn't me posting. There's honestly a lot of people, not only here, but throughout the whole social media spectrum and IRL, who see they've made her a lesbian now.
>>154118398>why do people hate MJ so much?Because they are reading modern slop by writers who joke about having her raped and murdered. These are hardcore Gwenguys who never got over their impression of her being a hussy, and when given the opportunity to write just wrote over the forty years previous.
>>154118732it does no good since other retards post anyway proof here>>154119036>>154119143
>>154118616This would be Awesome. As Venom or Spinerette.
>>154118616>>154119224Yeah make MJ that and then make Carol unrelated like the character Aubrey Plaza played. I forget the name.Jean DeWolff would be better than Carlie. Silver Sable replaces Michele, and maybe Betty can stay as Hobgoblin or make her Hallow's Eve with the mask gimmick.
>>154114818Peter literally has the perfect love interest: Felicia. Why the fuck do you care what happens to Mary Jane? She can be the leftover for Miles, for Gwen, for Norman. Who the fuck cares?
>>154119560Felicia is currently whoring it up in her solo, I think she's doing okay where she's at.
>>154104639Who is obsessed with her? She's just annoying and written like shit, Peter deserves better
>>154104777>Michelle Jones mogsShe maybe ugly and Mary jane is hot But MJ is actually loyal and not a whore so yeah she wins
>>154119560She is literally a fucking thief. They have had to change and file down her character, removing everything that made her interesting in the first place to make it work, and no its not character development. And then they write her like MJ to make it make it work.
>>154119897Nah
>>154115518Dumb cuck lmao
>>154114604Faggot
>>154115667Anon, superman and lois have been mimicing spiderman and mj since the 80s.
>>154119560Felicia's hot, and I like her, but they've assassinated her character pretty recently, to the point that she's worse than MJ, but in a different way. Honestly, dumping Peter to jump into Amelia's arms would be treated just as bad as the Paul thing if part of it didn't happen in a mini outside of ASM... and wasn't broken up in the same mini.But she's been fucking (or trying to) anyone and everyone with a vagina that isn't Peter and has been extra intense about since he disappeared into space. She showed up to Paul's funeral (dubiously, since it looked like Shay, and the only reason we know differently is because Gomez said it was a coloring mistake in a hard to find Instagram post), and has otherwise told him she wants to sleep in instead of reconnecting in their only ASM interaction.
>>154120275The more Felicia protests being under Peter's shadow, the more obvious she is. Should just be the one healthy friend he actually really needs right now because Wells and Kelly have absolutely scorched earth his life.
>>154117173Shouldn't you be out celebrating Pride Month instead of lying on the internet, Gwenschizo?
>>154119310The only problem with using Jean DeWolff and Silver Sable is that both of them never actually dated Peter, they were just attracted to Spider-Man.
>>154118398>The better questions is why do people hate MJ so much?Because she's been cemented as the endgame love interest for Spider-Man and they hate that. Half of them are hardcore Gwen Stacy waifufags who can't accept anyone else as THE love interest even though Gwen's been dead for decades, the other half don't want there to be an endgame love interest at all, they just want to live vicariously through Peter having an endless cycle of short-term romances with women nobody will remember a year later, and they want to be able to write that secret identity relationship drama where Peter misses a hot date and sabotages his love life because Spider-Man had to fight the Lizard or whatever. They basically want it to be like late 1970s/early 1980s Spider-Man comics forever, complete with Black Cat periodically showing up for a short-term thing that never works out.They know they can't kill MJ or write her out, Marvel's tried both before, so they just want to go back to the old Roger Stern idea from the early 80s where she's just "the one that got away", and every so often they stir up old feelings and tease readers with the idea of a reunion Marvel don't want to ever deliver on, but they know they can string readers along on those moments of hope. It's all part of the "DC editorial is stupid but Marvel editorial is evil" problem that's gone on for decades.The bottom line is the people at Marvel make sure the books are written for them, for what they want, over what the audience wants, or what might sell better.
>>154117173Gwen fucked Tyrone after her father died. Do you want to know somethign else? She is not even a natural Blonde, she dyed her hair.
>>154120733>DC editorial is stupid but Marvel editorial is evilExcept now Marvel is simple plain stupid evil, as they are losing their market share.
>>154120486His life has been an alt universe bad dream since OMD.No one believes anything happening in his life is actual canon and is just random dumb shit with no worth becasue of that ridiculous event.Spiderman is 1000% fucked for the next 20 years. Deadpool has the defacto face of marvel comics and marvel to the geeks for 30+ years with only MCU characters being a close second.
>>154104639Spider-Man fans think they're literally Peter Parker and Mary Jane is literally their wife.
>>154120724That's why you make it an AU and use them anyway and just imply they did have one and make up your own dynamic. They're better characters anyway, and would be better for fights.
