>Veronica: You’re calling them friends, Lucy? :) You had a good time with them, Lucy? :) You might like them more than you want to, Lucy? :)Even Lucy's mom hates Mike kek. Thank fuckin christ we're moving on from Paisy.
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>>154115332LOL so does this mean that Lucy's whole family knows what Mike said to her?
>>154115332I wanty Mike to commit acts of extreme violence against Lucy
>>154115332I mean to be fair, Mike did play a big part in Lucy's suicide attempt, and who knows how much Lucy shared. If I were in those shoes with that information, I'd probably also not like Mike.
>>154115450They are literally her parents, they should have raised her so she wouldn't be 100% dependent on Mike specifically
>>154115332>>154115416Wanna bet the whole family will pop the champagne when Mike's parents divorce or when he inevitably winds up dead?
Either they regret how they treat Mike when he succumbs to anorexia and depression, or they kick him when he's down even more.
>>154115450>Husband, our daughter: Lucy Whitecat is sad!>Yes I tried talking to her and she blew me off>Now I'm out of ideas>Let's kick her out!Lucy's mom is in no position to blame anyone else, not that Taeshi is smart enough to connect the dots.
>>154115487>>154115538Just because they're retarded parents doesn't nullify my point.
>>154115528Either option b or option c:>zero fucks are given>ships their mentall unstable daughter to college>she shoots up the campus cuz there was a classmate named Michael
>>154115332>Some new kid named James? He's cool. A fine lackey to my collection.
>>154115332finally something infinitely more interesting. a pov shift i can fw, we see how the mom thinks. this feels like a setup for the next chapter
>>154115450>If I were in those shoes with that information, I'd probably also not like Mike.Same, and even if you weren't holding a grudge towards the boy that triggered your daughter's suicidal thoughts, the bare minimum you should do it's making sure your mentally ill daughter isn't anywhere near him again
>>154115450Well there's different ways to take this, the self-aware way and the Taeshi way.Self-aware:>Shitty parents that cannot admit they fucked up hard with raising Lucy into a crazy bitch so use Mike as a scapegoat while also being too lazy to do anything to ensure they're separated.The Taeshi way:>See even their parents want them apart! It's like Romeo and Juliet they're just fated!
>>154115332I would do things to Lucy's mom
>>154115744>The Taeshi way:>See even their parents want them apart! It's like Romeo and Juliet they're just fated!I will genuinely fucking kill myself if she actually tries to pull this parallel. Jesus fucking Christ. Romeo and Juliet is NOT a romance, it's a tragedy.
>>154115450Honestly her reaction is more than fair. If anything she's still being light. Lucy's mom also gives off the vibe that she'd genuinely take care of Mike and his siblings if anything happened to their parents, Augustus is proof of this. However, she actually wouldn't be able to. She has her own daughter to look after first, even if she sympathizes with Mike. If anything, Lucy would get pissy that people are pitying Mike.
>>154115332Someone edit this and bring back Pimp Mom who's asking Lucy where her earnings are at
>>154115842A Romeo and Juliet ending where they both fucked up so bad over this shit and end up killing themselves would be hilarious, but Taeshi isn't self-aware enough to understand how bad Mucy is and that her forcing them to constantly interact would likely lead there, and if it wasn't a mutual suicide it would be a murder-suicide.
>>154115332Oh boy we sure needed an excuse to make Lucy bitchy, it's not like she already dislikes her parents
They really need to either kill Lucy off or give her some type of redeeming quality because I hate how we're supposed to feel for her despite her being one of the worst characters.
>>154115450I see it less as blaming Mike and more as being happy Lucy is avoiding her trigger (if you want to call it that) but I hate that it gives the strong impression that Augustus was right in exiling him from the table because adults would agree with his approach
>>154115332Reminder Lucyspace cant be used on her mother, ironically shes able to control/manipulate Lucy telepathically. Both parents are wyrm corrupted as fuck and they hide it oh so very well. The shit her parents get up to make Epstein look like mother teresa. God only knows what she has in store for Lucy fucing wyrm corruption not even once.
>>154115332Inb4 Lucy throws a bitch fit or sulks over her mom saying "Good" about not being around Mike
Rpg anon here, felt bad I haven’t posted anything in a while. If I do I want it to be something big and meaningful, so here’s a small concept of a future party member. They seem oddly familiar
>>154116002Exactly. I don't trust vero enough to be able to pull off something that heavy in the first place. She'd fuck it up spectacularly all cuz the meaning flew over her head.
>>154115332>Lucy saying James is cool.>After Taeshi trying to pretend he wasn't being a total snake.>Also after Taeshi claiming that she totally doesn't hate the friends that she complains about, demeans, and has nightmares about.She's trying to force the club to forgive him via Lucy's approval.
>>154116074Probably. At her core Lucy is still a Mike obsessed nutcase so even if she feels like she is "winning" the fact that her parents are favorable of her never seeing him ever again will eat her up inside.
>>154115450Yeah I get it, I don't see it as "fuck Mike" but as "don't hang out with the kid that causes you mental anguish".
Yandere Lucy Rape-Murder-Suicide when? Bonus if she video calls Sandy in the act.
>>154116114I don't get however how the mom is aware enough that being close to Mike is bad for her daughter and ENROLLS HER IN THE SAME FUCKING SCHOOL. Which brings us back to the same thread that her parents are stupid because their teen girl tried to kill herself because of something related to her school, and then had the great idea of letting her come back to the same everything and with no actual improvement from therapy or counseling. It feels misplaced, like something done only because Taeshi needs more characters to tell the readers what to think out loud and because she needs to put more sins atop Mike while he isn't even present>Lucy's parents do worry about her and hate Mike!>James is cool, please like James now, he has an endorsement>Lucy's suffering isn't because of her nasty attitude, how she hates her friends, her dependency on a male figure and withdrawal of such, is because MOOOOOOIKEEEEEE
>>154116214You don't jump schools over one kid. It's called grow the fuck up. It's not like Mike tried to fucking personally murder her (yet). Plus she's friends with Mike's mom so is probably hoping this will inevitably sort itself out.It's still dumb overall
I'm still waiting on the School Shooting arc.
>>154116248I dunno anon, I think the family that decided to send her daughter to Fargo because she was sad and mildly upset also deciding to put her in the same school and hope she "grows the fuck up" doesn't sound coherent, specially when they are pussy whipped by said daughter whenever she's sad and mildly upset
>>154115701>the bare minimum you should do it's making sure your mentally ill daughter isn't anywhere near him againthe bare minimum in that case would be not letting her come back to the school where she shares a class with that boy.
>>154116335I mean, is any of this plot sensible or coherent?
>>154116248It's not just jumping schools.>Lucy allowed to run around at night unsupervised.>Isn't even in therapy.>Mum relies on fucking Augustus to get info on her, who canonically lies to her.At the end of it all it's just Taeshi being a hack with an agenda, but if this was by design under a competent writer all you could say is that her parents just don't give a shit until she brings problems home. Lucy is a spoiled brat who gets out of anything if she screams enough.
>>154116020Agreed. How the hell am I supposed to sympathize with her? She really needs to be taken down a peg or two and be humble for once. I'm sick of her just having everyone at her beck and call, her being a bitch to everyone but everyone treating her like poor little lucy, everyone always taking her side, and the narrative always bending towards her favor.
>>154116092Ayy nice to see more of your stuff man, and no worries mate, take your time
>>154116376Well I wish it was
>>154115990Did the best I could
>>154116555Classic Uncle Steve. What a guy!
>>154116555congrats, you made me feel bad for lucy
>>154116555Holy shit this is gold lmfao
>>154116679If it makes you feel better that's not part of her job, her family is just incestuous
Bleating heart update I guess even tho its no longer the spicy chapter
>>154116555blessed trips for a blessed shoop
>>154115332Don't act like it's Mike's fault he got sick of your daughter spending nigh on decade kicking the shit out of him at every opportunity. You waited until he had clearly told her to fuck off and she was moping to say "Hey sweetie, play nicer with Mike, he's very patient with you but that has limits."
This comic is just unironically a thesis on why you should stay with your abuser or they'll kill themselves.
Had a big think while rereading, at this point Lucy doesn't hate Mike because he overreacted when calling her on her bullshit, she forgave him for that in Eternal Flame when she admitted that yes, she was a violent and jealous person and Mike was right to call her on it. She hates him because he ripped her heart out AGAIN after he kissed her under that tree and all but said he and Sandy were through, then the next morning was clearly still texting her. Mike was obviously going through some shit too in this chapter, but that was the moment he dug the hole he just climbed out of and dove back in. As Lucytoxopilled as it sounds if Mike had just followed through on dumping Sandy after she ADMITTED TO CHEATING ON HIM and went back to Lucy they could have had a healthy relationship since they had both solved their obstacles (Lucy's self-reflection and Mike's death grip on his failed relationship)
>>154117093That's bullshit man, you can't have a healthy relationship with someone who feels entitled to have you in some particular way and lashes out when you don't satisfy them. Lucy could only say that because she was getting what she wanted, as soon as that stops reality inverts and now she's the victim because Mike made her hurt him.
>>154117093>she forgave him for that in Eternal Flame and admitted that yes she was violentAnon, she was just spouting bullshit because he was back on the market to reel him back in. She immediately 180d the next day and said the exact opposite in Line in the Sand. Also Lucy was the one who suggested they stop and for Mike to think things through.The relationship is a trash fire when active or not, but the funniest part is Lucy herself is responsible for not having Mike already. Every single time she was the one who pushed him away leading him to end up with Sandy
>>154117093She absolutely bitched him out regularly and frequently pre-EF as well. It's not until Sandy seemed to be out of the picture that Lucy changed tune since now Mike was attainable.
>>154116248>You don't jump schools over one kid.She tried to kill herself.
>>154117093>>154117147While I see Lucy's point, I mean, I too would probably get pissed if the person I once loved had a heartfelt moment with me, only to get back to their cheating partner on the very next day, I do think that she actively conspiring against Mike is exaggerated on her part. Having Augustus do her bidding and publicly humiliate Mike and ruin his life is way too over the top. If Augustus pulled that shit off and she berated him for it she'd have my respect, but the fact that she went with it just shows that she just want to own Mike, rather than her just being sad/disappointed.That ain't love man, that's just her wanting Mike for herself no matter what, even if it's just his sad cadaver.
>>154116739>Mom is taking me to the future to stop my friend Clover from becoming a demon of lust
>>154117093>She forgave him for thatObjectively untrue>She admitted that yes she was a ciolent and jealous person and Mike was right to call her on it.Proven to be hollow words in an attempt to get him back>She hates him because he ripped her heart out AGAIN after he kissed her under that tree and all but said he and Sandy went throughDon't believe he said that outright and she was the one who stopped it, leading for a chance to Sandy to worm her way back nonsensically. Also her being out alone in the middle of the night was retarded>That was the moment he dug the hole he just climbed out of and dove back inHe is scared that Sandy will kill herself after she called him back (which was hidden from the actual chapter). Wonder where he could have gotten that fear from.>If Mike had just followed through on dumping Sandy and went back to Lucy they could have had a healthy relationship since they had both solved their obstaclesUnlikely and the What If of this exact scenario confirms that nothing would have changed. It'd just go back to abusive Lucy status quo.
>>154117303>Nuh Uh: The Post
>>154117258Yeah, like if Lucy just hated Mike's guts. Fine, whatever. It's that she won't move on, she's still throwing herself a big pity party because she's waiting for Mike to give himself to her without Lucy having to do anything that's the part where Lucy stops being sympathetic. Bitch, that's all you care about? Really?
>>154117348It's true though.
>>154117356Her throwing the letters as an excuse was the worse and saying he was all she had when everyone bends over backwards for her was absurd. Girl is actually insane.
>>154117258my headcanon is that before December, she did genuinely love him but just had trouble expressing it. After December but before Eternal Flame, it was about still lingering feelings combined with a need to prove wrong what he said about her in December. If he said he hated her and now he likes her, it means everything else he said was just hot air, right? After Eternal Flame she's given up on him entirely and the only feelings that remain towards him are apathy and regret
>>154117387Doesn't that timeskip what if thing have her admitting she'd dump her fiance if Mike showed up wanting to hook up?
>>154117383>Girl is actually insane.She beat a guy for several years cause she liked him and for some reason, thought that was a great way to express your feelings while saying you dont like the guy. At least other tsunderes can fucking express something positive at least once, & the protag does some misunderstanding or tripping shit, Lucy is just a twat.
>>154117147tbf if Mike wants Lucy and Lucy wants Mike and they're both happier for it who cares. The only thing that prevented the True Ending from happening was Sandy implying she'd harm herself if Mike left her>>154117303
>>154117483Was there any other time it was shown that Lucy actually did enough damage to cause bleeding?
>>154117483Is this a page taeshi touched up? I remember the original giving Sandy an expression in the last panel that read more as "I fucking hate Lucy" than what's drawn here
>>154117561>Sandy implying she'd harm herself if Mike left herAlso, Sandy isn't above gaslighting.
>>154117638I think you are thinking of the r63 page.
why is james so hot
>>154117561Yeah, that's the problem. The problem is Lucy DOESN'T want Mike, she barely even knows Mike. Not the real one who might feel pain when she hits him and resent her and lose patience with her and try to cut ties. She wants an IMAGINARY Mike who is perfectly understanding and accepting of her and his love will cure all her anxieties and all she has to do is to accept that magical transformation. She fucking SAYS this outright! Any relationship with Lucy is doomed for Mike because she'll always be expecting him to become someone she only imagined, and for anyone else she'll use them to tide her over while she waits for her Prince Charming to show up one day to sweep her off her feet.Taeshi thinks this is charming because every basic BPD bitch is like this.
>>154117643Being Michael is fucking miserable. Every path forward only leads to pain.
>>154117703>an IMAGINARY Mike who is perfectly understanding and accepting of her and his love will cure all her anxieties and all she has to do is to accept that magical transformation. She fucking SAYS this outright!Cept Mike DID try to understand Lucy, and that was met with both pouty dismissal and violence. Lucy refused to be open with him to the point that Mike outright believes he was just a toy to her.>Any relationship with Lucy is doomed for Mike because she'll always be expecting him to become someone she only imaginedI'd argue that Mike was partially that imaginary Mike, but her actions consistently snuffed it out. Lucy had literally no reason at all to act like such a psycho, and she acted like this before every meeting with Alej.>>154117743It's what happens when your writer hates you for things she wrote you saying.
>>154117303>leading for a chance to Sandy to worm her way back nonsensicallyI have to give Taeshi credit that as much of a circus of improbably events EF was, Sandy getting Mike to take her back is 100% believable. Sandy's spent the last three years thriving in the cutthroat modeling industry and knew every trick and gaslighting maneuver in the book to use against Mike. The only way he would have gotten out of that without her winning was if he just completely shut her down and refused to let her speak more than three sentences.
>>154117093Except Taeshi herself said it was Lucy who pushed for the kiss, and just doesn't care to correct anyone that thinks otherwise because it's very convenient
>>154115332the last panel fucks with the main reason Lucy came back yet again, and also past pages of the moms interacting.If you KNOW Mike is a trigger, why would you let her come back to the same school? Why let them be in hte same place or not at least request Lucy be in a different class?Why not bring ANY of this up with Mike's mom when you talked to her? Your daughter tried to kill herself, apparently over this guy, so why even let them be near each other in any way in case something bad happens?>>154117093Lucy only said all of that because Mike was back on the market. As long as he was still with Sandy, she was content with giving him shit like she had been since he came back. Lucy's stupid ass is incredibly all or nothing. Had she actually thought about it, and just stayed friend with Mike, she eventually would have won because we see that his heart clearly isn't in it with Sandy anymore and he feared her trying to take her own life. The same thing Lucy did that's been the source of his guilt for years real time. But that's ALSO unsatisfying because it means that Lucy didn't have to better herself at all to get what she wanted.
>>154117093>if Mike had just followed through on dumping Sandy after she ADMITTED TO CHEATING ON HIM and went back to Lucy they could have had a healthy relationshipTaeshi literally showed that if that was the case Lucy would have gone back to her "it's not like I want it" bullshit straight up next day, there's nothing healthy about it
What is Mike supposed to DO, exactly? Lucy's whole family hates him at this point? He's exiled from the table, not eating, and by taeshi's own words, he literally cannot escape any of this because she gets pissy despite it being his only option left "He can't adapt".She can't keep piling on cast members that hate Mike for any reason and then expect the readers to feel sympathy for him when the whole aura around him is "This guy is BAD!"
>>154117856>completely shut her down and refused to let her speak more than three sentences.The issue is that Mike would actually hear her out since he isn't a fashionista. Like >>154117561 said. She would pull that shit, Mike isn't gonna risk that now.>>154117913> There's nothing healthy about itIs their anyway or Mike to just date someone else and not deal with Lucy being a psycho about it/remain friends? Like, if he tried to date Stacy afterward, reconciling with Lucy and not getting with Sandy, would Lucy start acting up?
>>154117268Please shes the type of girl to corner an uncle at age 9 coerce them into molester'ings her because he said he loved her. Only for the dude to deeply regret it but she just wouldn't stop forcing herself on him or doing "things". And dude ends up an hero'ing out of grief. Shes the one that finds the body, you dont even want to know what happened for a few hours till she is "ready" to call 911.>At her uncles funeral shes already looking for her next victim >Eyes all bright full of energy and lust its as if she is staring into your soul judging you >A growing succubus needs lots of energy to enter puberty which happens at age 10 thats when they get their magical uterus white ink scar transforming on/off tattoo
>>154117643I think the thing I hate most about this page aside from Sandy using Mike's tendency to take blame for things is that Taeshi then went and say how it's Sandy who had to give up so much for him
>>154117963>Is their anyway or Mike to just date someone else and not deal with Lucy being a psycho about it/remain friends? Like, if he tried to date Stacy afterward, reconciling with Lucy and not getting with Sandy, would Lucy start acting up?Lucy would act up because she feels entitled to Mike and that's what Taeshi keeps pitching the story as regardless of if she meant to or not. Mike was just supposed to take lucy's shit normally forever. Actually I think a normal girl would bother Lucy more because it shows just how not worth the trouble she actually is.She couldn't do anything to Stacey either without it being obviously mean spirited in universe and neither can Augustus. At best he can try another speech like with the James thing.
>>154117703Don't forget she wants this ideal of Mike to also push through her very demented standards like never asking for reciprocity, only paying attention to her when when she's not present, always challenge her but always proving her right, and solve all her bitch tests to perfection. She wants a relationship where she only gets to take, of course she doesn't care about Mike's needs because the ideal Mike doesn't have them since it has her, in her flawed, hostile and dismissive glory
>>154117979>how it's Sandy who had to give up so much for himI think if Taeshi ever cheated, she'd blame her husband for the fact that she couldn't help herself.
>>154117979I think about her author comment about how Mike isn't noticing all of Sandy's character growth often. It fills me with dread...
>>154117800Yeah, and even that was too real for Lucy. What Lucy really wants is Mike as she dreamed him and Taeshi sometimes doodles>floating, weightless>unburdened by the past>playfully sardonic without ever getting personal or hurtful>perfectly accepting>perfectly understanding>perfectly validating>perfectly available>forever waiting for her to claim him and through him happinessUntil Mike turns into that impossible thing Lucy and le Demiurge won't stop punishing him for it. That's why every conversation with Lucy will inevitably bend towards her accusing Mike if not waiting for her enough.
>>154116730Wonder which uncles is Steve
>>154118094Anon, what you just described sounds more like a pet dog.
>>154117937>What is Mike supposed to DO, exactly?Kill himself. Everyone in the comic is driving Mike towards suicide, except for Sandy, who feels bad for cheating on him. He will not be forgiven until he dies.
>>154117963The track team was this comics head on a spike at the town's square, try it again, motherfucker, and see what happens. Mike just trying to be happy with someone else would just revive the spark of everyone that couldn't suck his dick while they yell "but I wanted you first and you said no!" and this would turn him into some master manipulator that uses people to satisfy his ego and then drop them for a fresh start once he got bored, according to the autor. Mike would need to skip town and start fresh, and then you have the fact that his and Lucy's moms are friends so his location would be known sooner or later, and the white miasma would follow through
>>154118146Worse: David. What Lucy wants is David as a serious love interest, not le meme dog.
>>154118124Ewwwwwww
>>154118161Personally I want Taeshi to go full retard and have Mike suicide then make absolutely everyone openly happier that he's gone.
>>154117387Fuck I sure hope so, then poor Mike would finally have a break.
>>154118216Honestly, she might as well. That would be closer in line to how everyone feels about him than sudden sadness and guilt.He's already irredeemable in the eyes of her fanbase.
>>154118208Roseville is full of nudists, and the main cast is gladly copying them
>>154118216There's a BCI where angel David shows Mike the universe if he weren't born and it shows everyone being happy and successful and Mike voluntarily goes to hell
>>154118182>you have the fact that his and Lucy's moms are friends so his location would be known sooner or later, and the white miasma would follow throughI can't imagine Mike would be very mentally stable after that, assuming he gets worse.>Your family moves cause they notice being here is driving you suicidal & you collasped at school.>Fresh start, made some friends, you keep in touch with mmo group via game.>You try a sandwich and manage to keep it down.Seeing Mike in a new environment and interacting with a new cast & growing a strong bond in a short time could be fun before lucy hits him like a truck.>After a month, a new transfer student ID here, it's Lucy. She started mentally breaking when Mike left and for her "health" her parents moved her( like they were gonna before).Bonus points to who else came with her to the new location to make shit worse.>Hard mode: No david, james or Augustus
>>154118216Maybe I'm exaggerating but I think Taeshi didn't write herself into a corner but into a dynamite storehouse. Imagine the important lessons her comic teaches! You should love people even if they abuse you and put you down constantly, being an asshole is great and the most sincere attitude, people who are nice are actually manipulators and deserve everything that happens to them, suicide is the solution to all problems and gives you something to weaponize, never tell adults anything just keep it to yourself, if you are hated and blamed for everything and feel miserable then maybe suicide as previously established will be your only redemption Of course it can be a nothingburger and just ends as a link on a bad webcomic's page, but she has been putting too much weight on her Tumblr blog and the cracks are starting to show, the preaching is leaving the echo chamber and you never know when an annoyed passerby will notify the inquisition
>>154117937Kill them all
>>154118328>Implying it won't be Paulo so Taeshi can keep him around for comparisons
>>154118335Then make some noise on social media.
>>154118287He seemed pretty comfy in hell at least and meme dog got smited as well
>>154118367I'm not going to admit I read this trite out loud anon
>>154118363I fucking hate the Paulo show. Would that mean Daisy has to move too or is she now Paulo out of town girlfriend so taeshi doesn't have to draw her?
>>154117937At this point Mike should just shoot up the fucking school I guess.
>>154118388ever heard of a burner?
>>154117937Stop thinking
>>154118335if this comic ever suddenly went viral, it'd be a nightmare for her because of how badly she tries to spin things all the time. The blog has been a negative for her since LitS because of how hard she's tried to make Mike look like he deserved it for being "needy" and "Cockblocking James"
>>154115332i havent read this for a year have i built enough backlog or should i wait longer?alternatively should i run away if it got real bad?
>>154118414She's still at Roseville and has to hear how much fun Paulo and Lucy are having daily when he calls while she's being expected to remain loyal while he's away (he might not come back)
>>154117937He needs a good influence is what he needs!
>>154118466What was the last thing you remember reading?
>>154118500Just watched a bunch of these videos the other day, funny as fuck
>>154118506paulo working at burger king
>>154118562The chapter where daisy and paulo get together? If yes, then you missed the most bullshit chapter yet
When is the track team blackbagging James, tying him up and raping him for pushing Mike off the team?
>>154118709the track team probably wont do anything to James, lets be real. Mike will probably pretend like nothing happened and when/if he passes out due to not eating, they'll never make the connection that James is involved.David won't have to face any scrutiny for his role in LitS and neither will James.
>>154118216Given how hard Taeshi is pushing the "Mike was always the bad guy" stuff I wouldn't be surprised at all if he gets a Jax ending, and Lucy's suffering is just her failing to save him
Wait Lucy/Mike is seriously endgame?
>>154119071No
>>154119071Honestly it's looking like it despite the fact that Taeshi has nuked that land twice already.She goes on and on about how bad they are for each other, moreso mike being bad for Lucy, but she wont let either of them move on to healthier couples. Augustus apparently didn't love Lucy but now he does for some reason. Mike can't date anyone that isnt a mental case because it means he'd have no reason to break up and go to Lucy.
>>154119071Most likely as much as just about everyone wishes otherwise.
>>154118922At least that would be somewhat satisfying. Lucy "saving" him would be garbage and far more groan inducing
Mike is going to abstract
>>154118706yeah and mike running
>>154119217Nah, Mike stopped running. He's just lying down and hopping his body expires first before he is forced into hell( perm Lucy space).This comic is actually impressive in how much it whitewashes the actual abusers, seual harassers and wannabee rapists. I likely wouldn't an issue with these redemption arcs if they actually fixed shit.
I wish we could get a /bcb/ simulator video but /bcb/'s highest high is still below /sug/'s lowest low
>>154118922>>154119183The worst part of these comparisons is that Lucy is way more like Jax than Mike
>>154118335>Imagine the important lessons her comic teaches! You should love people even if they abuse you and put you down constantly, being an asshole is great and the most sincere attitude, people who are nice are actually manipulators and deserve everything that happens to them, suicide is the solution to all problems and gives you something to weaponize, never tell adults anything just keep it to yourself, if you are hated and blamed for everything and feel miserable then maybe suicide as previously established will be your only redemptiontop kek so in other words dogisaga but unironically everything written is good and truthful
I'm so curious as to what made Taeshi go from "Hey, Lucy being a 'Tsundere' actually has some serious consequences regarding abuse"To"Lucy isn't actually at fault. She tried to kill herself because of Mike, so she's basically sin free and it's all on him."Because the latter makes doing the former pointless in the long run. It's not even like the comic shows that people think Lucy is a ticking bomb or that her using her trauma to act like a bitch is a bad thing. It just coddles her left and right. All taeshi's responses and story beats just point that Mike should have just continued letting everyone use him as a nice guy punching bag without regard for his feelings. Nobody has any kind of realization that Mike has gotten saltier or became a sperg because of how badly they treated him. Instead we got"Oh Mike totally has main character syndrome, guys! He can't stand not being number one in someone's mind! Just ignore the fact that both Sandy and James ghosted him in different ways!"
>>154119836The main character bit was always such bullshit. He doesnt carw about being number 1 in someone's mind and often times that is the default. He is being punished for simply wanting a healthy relationship and someone actually having his back for once
>>154117963i want to marry stacy
>>154117963Lucy would always be pissy. If anything him hooking up with Stacy wpuld cause her to sperg out even harder as now she isnt even his second pick
>>154115332Lackadaisy mogs this stupid melodrama ass comic. And why are their necks and head proportions so weird?
>>154120066I don't think anyone in this thread would disagree kek
>>154120066Uh oh the bcb reddit is leaking again, quick make a post about how the cats are always crying so the thread will look active
>>154120129k'ay>Lucy was built to be abused
>>154120066>Lackadaisy It hasn't updated since COVID, doesn't matter how good it looks if it's never going to finish.
>>154117685Idk he looks like he gives good head
>>154120231I'm glad that once highschool ends they will never see each other again
>>154118922>>154119183>Mike abstracts into a dumb pet while everyone else gets everything they wanted Yeah I can see it, the question is who gets custody of pet abstract Mike, Sandy or Lucy?Whose tent is he going to be tied up under for all eternity
>>154119543
>>154118343Many might fall in the face of Chaos, but not this one. Not today.
>>154121002Ah shit wrong picLooks like I was wrong and he did fall.
>>154121024kek
What emotion is this expression meant to convey?
>>154115332What bothers me is how this is too little, too late, and for no reason. In a book-only chapter, Lucy's mom expressed her regret that her daughter and Mike had their falling out, apparently none the wiser as to what happened between them. Lucy and Augustus tell her nothing. So how did the mom go and decide Mike was a bad influence on Lucy all on her own?
>>154121002I PLAY MONSTER REBORN! NOW, RETURN TO US, MAISHUL!
>>154121358Wow rude. Michael isn't a monster.
>>154120231You know what, Mike was being angry, but he was pretty right. Almost every problem has been about or caused by Lucy.>Weird view of friendship & romance stem from his "relationship" with Lucy>Felt alone & Low self-esteem of believing his friends would ditch him for her(he was right, but still)>The desire for someone in his corner all stems from everyone always being in HER corner.LITS with James only happens cause Mike believes his friends arent trust worthy at all, and James believed he was losing James, the guy who loved bombed then dropped him with no explanation.Plus, while Mike was deteriorating, it only got noticeably worse when Lucy was involved; LITS shows that explicitly.
>>154118343>>154121358Many might fall to Chaos in the wake of escaping death's embrace, but not this one. Not today.
>>154121397Nta, better?
>>154119943It doesn't make sense to anyone not messed up in the head. Mike's fears about only being wanted when romantically available were backed up by James doing what the fuck he did. Taeshi trying to sell James to the fans because he wasn't supposed to be hated makes it even worse.>>154121314I feel like the fact that it was a book onely chapter is why she's pulling this. People that don't have the physical volumes won't think she's retconning. But even then Taeshi seems to have a habit of having characters do shit and then only explaining on her blog when or if she's asked about it. Instead of properly showing it in the comic.like other anon's said, if Lucy's whole family thinks Mike is bad, then why even let the two be near each other?
>>154121426Oh that's much better. Just gonna save that in the event I repeat my earlier fuckup, thank you very much.
Should have just gone to sleep, instead Im sitting here thinking about this abortion of a comic. BCB offers insight into what happens when a person stagnates hard, you would think that after 20 years her art and writing would improve but no, it got worse instead.
>>154121405The comic never proved Mike wrong about Lucy being a parasite. It just decided to punish him for even saying it instead.
>>154119183He would 100% abstract at this point.
>>154121593> It just decided to punish him for even saying it instead.Which will always be maddening and funny since Lucy always needs a male handler. Even Daisy, who whines about not being desirable, has both an extensive life goal (med field)and doesn't need to be babysat for her entire life.Pic is just being annoying, and yet she is still better than Lucy.
Since the general vibe is that Mike is a Hunter of the Martyr Creed, is him using Demand here to save Lucy the first case of him using an Edge?
>>154121726His legs are just that strong, anon. How do you think he runs so fast?
>>154121472Taeshi keeps building whole mountain ranges between Mike and Lucy, presumably under the impression that overcoming them will make the eventual realization of Mucy all the more dramatic. But at this point I think we all know that Taeshi is massively overestimating her own chops as a writer. Either she will take a helicopter over said ranges, ignoring them as convenient, or dynamite them when push comes to shove. She sure as hell won't work to scale them. So Lucy's family will just keep hating Mike in the background, with no discernible effect on the "happy couple" beyond some unfunny humor and an offhanded blogpost, or else they will magically forgive Mike because Lucy cajoles them into it.
>>154121684Interesting how Mike is usually such a doormat people pleaser but locked in to stop James and David from being collateral damage-inflicting retards.
>>154121903Wouldnt him locking in here just be him looking out for Paulo and Diasy? Not like he hasn't comforted or helped Paulo before, like New Year's when he mom angsted.
>>154121903DON'T BE FOOLED! Anon, he's manipulating them! Glad I caught this, it would have slipped right under your nose!
>>154121726It could be, it fits the bill. Though it is so extreme in this case that it'd be a stretch.In any case, I'd allow it just for the rule of cool, though.
>>154121970This image always fuckin gets me. The way how Paulo's sweatin and Mike lookin on in concern is just *chef's kiss*. Mike knows Pandora's Box has just been opened, and Paulo is discovering a whole new world he never knew he always wanted.
>>154121970I think it's odd how firm Mike was. These days he would normally just whine or plead or ineffectually suggest they stop. Back in the day he might yell at someone like old Paulo to knock it off. But I haven't seen Mike act calm and borderline cold in a long, long time.
>>154121684Mike is far from perfect, but the dude is the only considerate mf in this shit, most of the others are just a bunch of damn-the-consequences idiots.
>>154121997Good catch, anon. Silly me, he's just such a prolific master of the craft, you know?
>>154122144Augustus is considerate of Lucy. And suffers from massive obvious blind spots.
>>154122099>Mike knows Pandora's Box has just been opened, and Paulo is discovering a whole new world he never knew he always wanted.Plus, Paulo is looking this up on Mike's computer.>>154122117>But I haven't seen Mike act calm and borderline cold in a long, long time.Peronally i prefer this kind of sad Mike vs. the one we get. Especially since you can argue he looks fine on the surface if you didn't know that he is still actively starving himself and is unhappy. Honestly, a decent retcon for why Mike is a bit slower would be to imply his depression/not eating is hampering his speed, which would feed into the cycle of him not feeling good.
>>154119836I don't even think that's quite right. Taeshi seems to be saying, at least in some of her answers, back when we were in the chapter where Mike and Daisy were in the library, that she thinks Daisy is right in some ways. Mike's flaw is his people pleasing and his repression of resntment. She then goes on to derangement though in implying that Mike deserves what he got because he didn't stick up for himself. As if he should somehow have been able to set boundaries as a kid.
>>154115332>one mention of Mike by Lucy's mother>entire thread is talking about Mike and what a martyr he isDamnit anons, I wanted to talk about how awful Lucy is to everyone else, not relitigate how awful she is to Mike for the thousandth fucking time.
>>154122248>Honestly, a decent retcon for why Mike is a bit slower would be to imply his depression/not eating is hampering his speedThe obvious debuff inflicted by starving himself makes me think she actually won't have Mike save Lucy from Alejandro.
>>154122289>As if he should somehow have been able to set boundaries as a kid.But that would make Lucy at fault for taking advantage of him.
>>154122309Anon, we all know Lucy is a bitch. A HUGE bitch. She needs to be put in her place.
I sometimes think about rereading the comic from start to finish just to better remember some of the context, but honestly, reading a story where the author can just change whatever it was said before at any given point just makes me not care much.
>>154122369>can just change whatever it was said before at any given point, just makes me not care much.
>>154122309Be the change you want to see in the thread.She didn’t mention Amaya in her list of friends she was hanging out with, that’s something.
>>154122309Heaven forbid you put any personal effort into making said conversation happen. Whining about things not naturally going your way is so much more effective. Anons will surely flock to your side in sympathy.
>>154122384Amaya is not real.
>>154122380I recall her excuse for this page in particular was that Mike's old dialogue didn't seem like something a kid would say. It's hilarious that, years later, she decided holding him to this "promise" in perpetuity was not just defensible but morally just.
Wha-wh-when the fuck did Lucy's mom hated Mike? What?
>>154122431>>154122384It'll be revealed in the end that Lucyspace is actually contained within Amayaspace, and she was the one pulling the strings all along
>>154122384It's not so much Lucy herself that I want to call out, it's the bullshit that Taeshi's pulling. >Lucy's just being silly, she doesn't know what she wants! >Her screaming that she hates everyone, glaring at them constantly, talking shit behind their backs, and engineering situations to hurt or humiliate them, isn't indicative of how Lucy really feels>She's just being combative :)It makes me hate Lucy so much more than I would in a vacuum.
>>154122470Yeah it's new, but it can be implied that she ended up knowing (either from Augustus or Lucy) that he had some influence in her suicide attempt, I guess.
>>154122483>Amaya toys with Mike for a while because she was snubbed in middle school.>Makes Lucy think she has power>Swoops in when Mike is at his lowest to make him see her as his ultimate savior and secure eternal loyalty>Lets Sue watch sometimesThe ultimate mastermind.
>>154122332No, no, see, in Taeshi's mind its not Lucy's fault, either, because nobody taight her better. How was she supposed to know he was suffering if he never told her to stop?
>>154122507I could see this as a doable character arc for Lucy, actually. She has insane trust issues and dysfunctional coping mechanisms yet is tempted by companionship. The problems are that her friends objectively suck and are deeply in love with her for some reason. So the story of her overcoming personal limitations instead becomes one of a spoiled girl accepting yet more asspats handed to her on a silver platter.
>>154122517Except that Taeshi established that Lucy deliberate witholds personal information from her mom and Augustus refuses to "betray" her trust by providing any insights when asked point blank.
>>154122572I'd be willing to lean on "it's really the parents' fault" if the parents were actual characters. You might as well blame God for giving Lucy BPD at that point.
>>154122572Mike not only told Lucy to stop, he told her directly to hang out with her other friends instead of bugging him all the time.>>154122517To play devil's advocate, Lucy (and by extension her family) having issues with Mike is the only one of Lucy's insane grudges that's in any way sympathetic. She started it by abusing Mike's goodwill, but falling out with a former best friend that hard and fast is still an understandable reason to be upset. But Lucy holding it against Mike while ALSO still wanting to jump at the chance to be his tsundere rebound, that isn't sympathetic. That just makes her crazy and toxic.
>>154122680Eh, Taeshi changes her opinion and affirmations every time. Going by Ockham's razor, that is the most likely explanation.
>>154115332Fucking lmao. At this point Mike is literally Snowball, just a boogeyman for the rest of the cast to fear and hate.
>>154122776Inb4 someone asks her to elaborate on this discrepancy and we get another reality-adjacent tumblr post.
>>154122318Yeah, Mike will try and get beaten up, then a twelve page monologue from Mike about what a pathetic selfish evil worm he is will give Lucy the strength to save herself (and Mike), she will then single handedly beat up Alejandro and announce her Character Has Fully Developed
>>154122615I hate that Taeshi has the gall, the absolute temerity, to write scenarios where asshole characters bully and kick around mild-mannered characters who are just trying to mind their own business, and then get on this pseudo-moralistic high horse and finger-wag at anyone who doesn't like it.>You sympathize with the victims? How lame, they're a bunch of loser nerds! The assholes are my favorites, they're cool and interesting.>You think the bullies shouldn't get forgiveness and sympathy from their victims? How unforgiving! Don't you know they're just fictional teenagers?
>>154121313Scared-horny
>>154121426In response
>>154123844>PicCheck'em
>>154122289>She then goes on to derangement though in implying that Mike deserves what he got because he didn't stick up for himself. As if he should somehow have been able to set boundaries as a kid.But with the way this fuckass comic works, he'd get overly punished for doing that. The moment he's not Mr. Nice Guy on any level, everyone starts to get pissy with him.
>>154123158Taeshi really just wants to be an asshole, but you can't do that without consequences IRL.
>>154115332Now she'll leap on Mike's dick just to spite her mom.
>>154115332So if she hates Mike, why hasn't she confronted his mom about it yet? This should have been covered when the family first came back
>>154124326>moms get into a fight>Mike's mom is Lucyspaced into believing her own son does in fact suck
When does Sandy get Lucyspaced so he can finally get out of that toxic as fuck relationship?
>>154123158It disgusts me that Daisy apparently liked being near-abused by Augustus.Meanwhile Abbey gets shat on.
>>154124403You know it'd happen just like this
>>154118124Hopefully the dog so they won't be blood related.
>>154124449What disgusts me is that Taeshi pins all the responsibility on Daisy for "asking/falling for it", rather than on Augustus for being a creep or on Lucy for aiding and abetting him being a creep. As if it's Daisy's responsibility to get over it, but also to keep a healthy distance, rather than Lucy's responsibility to not befriend creepy assholes.Anyways, remember that it was strongly implied that Augustus's "vitriolic back-and-forth" with Lucy was an act he put on after realizing that the honeyed words approach wasn't going to work. Augustus realized that Lucy liked being argued with and needled, and he was right: she fell for it HARD.
>>154119071Unfortunately yes.
>>154119107I maintain the vain hope that Mandy will win out. Mike clearly wants to be a househusband, given that even in the AUs where he doesn't end up with Sandy he's still a stay-at-home parent. And sure, staying with Sandy means he's a somewhat neglected househusband who may or may not be getting cheated on, but there's worse fates, like ending up with Lucy. At least with Sandy he gets to be the favorite parent of a cute and successful daughter.
>>154124891Yeah I agree. I didn't mean to pin the blame on Daisy, more on Taeshi, that romanticizes that sort of shit.Also fuck Augustus. I always say, the dude is a creep and a fake. Based on his actions alone (and not on Taeshi's preferential treatment), he isn't to be trusted. Everything indicated he is just manipulating people.However, since Taeshi loves to sugar coat his and any other jackass character's actions, he goes unpunished.
>>154115332It's ok, he is REALLY ANOYING
>>154117703One of the few ways to rescue this awful story is for Lucy to get her imagined version of Mike, only to realize it's just a front put up by the empty husk that used to be her friend.
>>154119836I think it happened because Taeshi went from basing the comic off her own experiences to using it as a power fantasy. Part if me thinks that she originally wanted Lucy to act a certain way upon her return but quickly grew addicted to the girlbossing and degenerated from there.
>>154124754Cats and dogs can't reproduce, so no need for condoms. Lucky uncle.
>>154124449She didn't enjoy being abused, she enjoyed being physically attractive enough to drive a guy crazy. Daisy is super jealous of all of the attention Lucy is getting because she hasn't experienced being oggled and groped at herself other than the guy who dedicated his life to her>>154124891Lucy is misogynistic as hell, projecting her own weird sexual insecurities on all of womankind. She has a problem with guys liking her looks so she judges everyone who enjoys the attention.
>>154125051No worries anon. Taeshi's fascination with writing scenarios in which unrepentant assholes get forgiven and apologized to by their victims is gross in general.And the fact that Lucy fell for Augustus's manipulations but then trusts him anyways because he also warmed up to her in the process is some serious schlock. And it's extra fucked up because a huge reason why Lucy befriended Augustus was BECAUSE he was a creepy loner who all the "friends" Lucy hates avoid.
>>154125542>she judges everyone who enjoys the attentionWhich is double weird because male attention seems to be the only thing she's ever wanted.
>>154125602Lucy equates love with being sexually desired, that's why she threw herself at Augustus when she needed validation. But that doesn't mean she can't slut shame other girls who don't think the same way.
>>154125542David wouldn't have turned down that opportunity
>>154122483>Lucyspace is actually contained within Amayaspace, and she was the one pulling the strings all along>Amaya's family has been cursed for generations>She took a vow of silence for a very valid reason >When she talks runes start appearing burning themselves into the air>Everything she says turns into powerful spells she is unable to either control or understand what magic will be casted>Could be good magic could be simple could cast a massive fireball for saying something as simple as can you please pass me that paper saying something while mad will curse a person etc etc etc>Shes able to telepathically speak to people, this is why everyone understands what shes saying. Shes able to twist thoughts,give insight, share/scan memories or quite literally project herself as someones inner voice thus everyone understanding what she is trying to say with just simple movements/facial expressions. >Thus she is able to speak to people without them realizing it >and by using this loophole not using her voice or speaking, no magic will be casted>She ended up speaking to Lucy ran into her while walking home she was sad thus Amaya scanned her mind deeply(something she never does) seeing all the confusion&sadness. Mike&Paulo about her shitty social skills and love life etc. Amaya told her I will give you the power to control people just to prove a point. Ends up telling Lucy why she doesn't speak by showing off her magic, which almost made Lucy not only piss herself but made her think. She has finally gone completely insane reality no longer makes sense etc etc. Only for Amaya to calm her down without using magic by hugging her super hard&passionately and kissing her above the middle of her eyes on that massive landing pad she calls a foreghead All the while she was speaking with Lucy slowly a massive spell was born. LucyspaceWhile also erasing her memory of the last 10-20mins speaking with Amaya.Amaya has been smiling at her work ever since
>>154124449>near-abused by Augustus.Not this shit again, he really really does love her. He is just retarded socially because of his up bringing, Augustus gave Daisy the courage to speak with Mike. Which proved he does not care about her at all. The only reason why he went into the woods being all creepy.Was to show off she had a stalker who totally "loved" her. Said stalker is a complete fucking psychopathic monster that has to control people. All while claiming they are totally not like their father. The whole green eyes thing and Daisy putting shit together was competely fucking retarrded,Also by getting together with her stalker, it just proved Augustus right. As dude slowly became even more violent because Daisy refused to think. Paulo is a horrible person that should be murdered slowly. Spending so much time pretending to be a soft person that totally loves Daisy.>You keep refusing to do what I say and think the way I want you to, by realizing Paulo is scum of the earth who should have his face burnt with a blowtorch.>Get the fuck away from me I don't love you, I don't care about you, your fucking stupid I am right(this is totally not abusive for real or controlling just like his father, realistically he would have slapped her if he got under his skin enough for defending Paulo yet again after saying this) >AUGUSTUS WAS GOING TO RAPE DAISY IF HER STALKER WAS NOT FOLLOWING THEM HE WAS TOTALLY NOT BEING ULTRA CREEPY TO PROVE A POINT YET AGAIN!!!!>ABUSER RAPIST VIOLENT MONSTER Fucking meanwhile in reality he was right about both guys as well as all he said towards Daisy, and is now forced to live with a girl. Who will not stop having sex with him while he is sleeping. And has repeatedly kissed him without his consent.
Speaking of Taeshi's habit of giving Daisy shit because she's not a cool tsundere like Lucy, just a dorky girl who wants to be liked which makes her a WHORE: here she is blowing smoke again about how Paulo's totally over Lucy, he's a loyal and loving BF, he'd never throw someone he loves under the bus for Lucy, and Daisy's crazy for thinking he might.
>>154121313 guys I didnt realize she gets "hands on shoulder PTSD" because of THIS and not because of the (almost) rapist alej pinning her and abusing her
>>154127168Paulo is an emotional hormonal retard, just like Lucy is. Paulo doesn't get its bad chemistry. Those two should be far away from each other when it comes to relationships. Also another reality redpill Paulo doesn't love Lucy its just ego, Lucy is just like him thats why he wants to make her happy. Because he cant make himself happy, he keeps trying to give Lucy what he himself wants and cant get.Dumbfck manwhore throws himself at every woman he can because he thinks it will fill the void. It never does as he pretends to care about X girl yet alone love them, as he continues lying to himself. Poor poor retarded Paulo doesn't even know what real love feels like. Daisy is also not that person they have nothing in common and are complete opposites. Le opposites attract nah these two are like mixing acid and bases together it gives a fun reaction to watch but its shit a mess to clean up and can be really really dangerous. Realistically Paulo would need a very very active woman. IE a tomboy that has a large bust and hips, is not shy at all they do everything no matter how small with their head held high no fucks given and will enjoy it. They know relationships are more than just sex, but when it comes to sex they love going. ITS MY TURN TO BE THE MAN LAY DOWN BABY ITS MY TURN TO BE ON TOP, Sshhh shhh ill be gentile for the first 10 seconds. The type of girl who wants to make you happy and in turn you yourself love making them happy a never ending feedback loop of fuzzy good feeling dopamine.Tae has to LARP as retarded and stick with all the bad writing because thats what the discord loonytroon army wants and by god thats what they will get. The same never ending slop that always hits the status quo because these "people" dont like thinking they dont like logic or surprises. They only want slop, thus Tae is cursed to write garbage.But once a blue moon we get to see she can draw and be funny/creative still which sucks because it means shes talented
>>154121313Nervous anticipation for Mike finally doing what he should've done years ago
this is the most amount of discussion ive seen in one of these threads in a while
>>154115332>>154116555>>154116739they look like they yearn to be impregnated by HUMAN MEN
>>154127168>>154127290If Abbey was the one to have spoken to Daisy like that in this page, you can bet the comic would treat him like a demon for sure, but, since it's poor wittle Paulo, one of Taeshi's favorites, he gets a pass as per usual.
>>154127543Not surprising. Paisy is anti discussion outside of "when are they going to break up?" while Mike or Lucy discourse is more interesting and/or rage inducing
>>154127168How likely is it that Taeshi is deliberately trying to mislead her readers by feeding them incomplete evidence and leaning on selective memory? I know her discord is full of people who engage in the same tactics to defend their favorite characters and crucify the ones they hate. So perhaps Taeshi is doing this to artificially drum up duscussion and set up "plot twists" which are really just basic cause and effect kicking in.
>>154127950Her response to questions regarding LitS says otherwise. I really think there's some version of BCB in her head that's much different than what she's actually putting on the comic pages. So she gets confused and upset when people dont understand what she was intending to do and don't have the reaction she wanted.
>>154128183That would fall under the "plot twists" category in which it turns out that Augustus and crew were not actually wholesome chungus for destroying a friendship. That said I do think she at least wants to believe in the letters shit because she already mimes it irl with the Season of Mourning
>>154125094Not Lucy seething in the background, jealous that her own mom is living out HER fantasies
>>154127168No matter what taeshi says or does, she's not gonna be able to whitewash Paulo's history. Especially when he keeps fucking up anyway, like everybody knows Paulo's a womanizing manwhore flake. That shit will follow him to the end, literally nobody denies this fact, not tumblr, the discord, and I'm sure a few patreonpiggies know what a piece of shit Paulo used to be.
>>154128727Discord Paulostans would absolutely say he's over all that now. Unless they were terminally bored of Paisy and hoping for some regression to kick in on his part.
>>154115487tbf it seems that every parent is fuckin useless in this comic. we already see that mikes own are absentee parents, and that their youngest child is lookin up to haley as a mother figure more than the actual mom
>>154128783They were bringing up his receipts when the narrative was actively fucking Sue over in favor for Paulo
>>154128916>fucking Sue overSue needed to be humbled. Her weird superiority complex over Paulo when she's just as stupid and stubborn was good for her. Too bad nobody in this comic ever learns so we'll have to repeat the Suemiliation later
>>154127290>shhh shhh ill be gentile for the first 10 secondsOy vey
>>154128916It's hard fo me to believe the Paulo defense didn't try to circle the wagons at all. Though it would be funny if Taeshi's own canon defense was so bad that even they didn't want to adopt it.
>>154127739Don't forget in her endless wisdom Taeshi made it so the reason he's being a cunt here is because Daisy said (under pressure) that he was mean and didn't take her seriously. She thought this was a proportionate answer and amount of ass hurt for someone to have about a conversation where the people that can't stand him the most called him dumb, just that. Mr "crying about your dead mom makes you weird" was a soggy wet bitch about being called unpleasant behind his back
>>154127739I forgot about this>It’s easy to fall in love with your best friendmy ass
>>154129155Paulo became the epitome of "can't take what he dishes out" but readers were supposed to sympathize with him for some reason. BCB really is just asshole apologia.
>>154129128It's the fucking lightning rod effect, even I can't believe it, the chapter didn't have Taeshi loudly point to the reader "look! He's who you have to hate right now! Look!" so no one was focused enough to not see Paulo's bullshit. It's also why I think the chapter is ending yet on another "Mike bad" note, she knows the table can't hold her "Lucy is the specialest little girl" narrative for long without the misery sink that is Mike making her look good
>>154129175I might be misremembering, but didn't their friendship get back on track only after Daisy apologized to Paulo and not vice versa?
>>154129206Based on how the chapter began, I have a suspicion this is actually going to end more Lucy sympathy begging in which she magnanimously feels conflicted over Mike's current situation thanks to amazing insight.
>>154129190Nevermind that that time Abbey didn't even bring up any man whore or casanova accusations, he just said he wasn't smart enough to do well at school, and Paulo's reaction was exactly the first, going to visit his "fuck buddy" so he would stop feeling so mad. It's like Taeshi saying "I'm going to show everyone that they're judging Paulo top harshly" by showing pictures of him drugged fucked up on the floor and pointing how he's not flirting on anyone in them
>>154129256If you want to be angry about it it was because Lucy forced Paulo to attend said birthday party, Paulo didn't even want to go
>>154129311If I am remebering right, that was the start of their reconciliation and the apology came after.
>>154129175>>154129256Their friendship was ass either way. It basically amounted to Paulo head patting her and saying 'there there daisy-chan'.
>>154127168Between this and Lucy's loaded memories in LiTS I think she's doing this shit on purpose. She knows she's contradicting but is counting on her fans not looking into it and hoping she can just edit the history of the comic on the fly, or maybe she's so crazy her thought process is now:>Hm, this page from years ago doesn't align with what I'm doing now...>I'll make a note to edit or delete it later, it's non canon now.>*Forgets ever to change it*>"What are you talking about Paulo never whined about Lucy?"
>>154127168>it does hurt to be dicked around that muchPaulo and his Freudian slips
>>154129385Maybe it's strategic compensatory bullshitting. As in Taeshi went fill mask-off BPD nutter in LitS but got a poor reception. So now she pumps out contradictory easily disproven takes in the hope that her audience thinks the LitS commentary was just another weird random fit instead of her actual worldview.
Do we think Sue is bi (and if so will she be open to a PauloxLucyxSue threesome)
>>154130450Sue is Lucysexual. Cuz that's who her character revolves around these days. Lucy this, Lucy that, notice me Lucy! If Sue had won the tickets I had no doubt she'd try to invite Lucy, only to be rejected. FitR2 is evidence of this since she fuckin wishes could be Lucy's partner instead.
>>154130774>If Sue had won the tickets I had no doubt she'd try to invite Lucy, only to be rejectedAnd naturally, Taeshi steered clear of any such plot threads more interesting than Paisy or the requisite chapterly Lucy glazing.
>>154130774I cant get why Sue wants to be Lucy's friend so badly other than her own ego. To be the one that got to befriend the girl with emotional walls placed up.It would actually be interesting if Sue became the group's new whipping nerd since Mike isn't there. It would show that they cannot function together unless they have one member willing to take all the heat.
>>154131547>It would show that they cannot function together unless they have one member willing to take all the heat.So, a group of bullies from a bullying revenge manga? Always one "friend" in the group who is the next or was the last target before.>Sue begs/threatens Mike to reconcile with Lucy so she doesnt get bullied anymore.Issue here, it would be much easier for Sue to hang out with Mike vs asking him to be meg again since the bullies here are lazy as shit.
>>154130450This >>154130774. Other than Mike (and McCain?) way back, she has only shown interest in Lucy (or rather, in kissing her ass) for some unknown reason.It doesn't really feel like romantic love IMO though, it just feels like Lucy is a baby that she dotes and cares for.This insistence of hers to get her friendship, and any notion that this might be romantic love, just feels forced. >>154131547>I cant get why Sue wants to be Lucy's friend so badly other than her own ego.Some said the same before, and I agree.The reason why she is so fixated in becoming Lucy's friend is egotistical, as if Lucy's friendship is some sort of high status mark.
>>154132367>It doesn't really feel like romantic love IMO thoughWhen does any love for Luccy feel like Romantic love?>Lucy's friendship is some sort of high-status mark.Why? Lucy is nothing but prickly, and it's not like she is a queen bee.
>>154132428>Why?I dunno, I ask myself the same thing.It's just what it feels like, given how everyone wants her friendship despite the fact she is just bitter most of the time.
>>154132618On one hand you could say its a matter of trying to "Obtain the unobtainable" But in truth, Taeshi still treats Lucy as the tsundere anime girl that everyone in the show would want even if it wasn't worth it. Lucy doesn't really do anything good and nice that would make her stand out enough to be worth all the trouble.
>>154131547I liked the idea that Sue is very confident of herself to an absurd amount that she thinks she can be great at everything despite ultimately failing, and it shows a lot with the cheerleading chapter, the play and her place as a main character even. So her problem isn't confidencw but that no one else seems to take her seriously, so she tries to oversell herself on many things and abilities, and being the one closer to the most hostile yet popular and desirable person on the group is right that alley. Notice she doesn't use nicknames for anyone else but her despite Lucy not responding in kind, she's that kid that follows the popular group hoping they adopt him by getting used to him being around. So yeah it's an ego thing, Taeshi's forced romantic love notwithstanding
>>154132618To be fair the group is mostly together because of Paulo's undying simpness, if he leaves so does Daisy, if Paulo leaves so does David and his simp since he's Paulo's gay lover first and foremost, and if alone with Sue she can drop all pretenses and suffer the full Lucyspace blast, and we know Sue's feelings are as easy to break as her bones
>>154132367>as if Lucy's friendship is some sort of high status markIronically, that's pretty much it; for Sue, having access to Lucy's good side is, in a way, a status mark in Sue's eyes.
>>154133476Lucy has almost not had a mask. In fact, one of the few times Lucy lacked a mask was when she was crying. Not her being no bullshit.>Loves Lucy when she is being honestSo never?
>>154133476>cares about her enough to want to be an exception to Lucy's masking nature.Wasn't that Mike's whole deal? There really is a hex upon these characters. Mike is eternally cursed to have his plotlines and character traits stolen by others, Lucy is cursed to ever repeat the same plotlines, Daisy is cursed to ever feel inferior despite by rights being one of the most popular girls in their grade, Paulo is cursed to never advance in characterization no matter how much he yearns to. Only David has been spared, and that is because he has devoted himself to be a curse upon all those he meets.
>>154133829>Wasn't that Mike's whole deal?Yes, and one of the key sources of frustration for Michael.> Mike is eternally cursed to have his plotlines and character traits stolen by othersTwo characters having similar plotlines would eb fine in normal circumstances if it led somewhere, but won't. Sue is at this point just the Mike stand-in alongside the kizuna replacement.> Only David has been spared, and that is because he has devoted himself to be a curse upon all those he meets.It's more so that he never adapted to the changed tone of the comic. The suicide was a mistake, and I maintain it only exists to hurt Mike.
>>154129128I'm not on the discord so I'm just guessing, but I'd imagine Taeshi blew up any attempts to defend Paulo's behavior when she went "lol, his apology here is totally insincere and Sue can tell, lmao" the page before Sue gave up and handed him the tickets anyways.That, and some tumblr readers did the work of combing through the comic and pointing out that Paulo has literally never not been an asshole to Sue, while Sue HAS given him the benefit of the doubt, tried to compromise, and generally tried to be a good friend. So any whataboutism or "well she deserved it" deflections were rendered indefensible, too.
>>154131547>I cant get why Sue wants to be Lucy's friend so badly other than her own ego.That might be part of it, but I think the main reason is misplaced sympathy. Sue disliked being a "secondary character" and wanted more relevance, so when she saw Lucy crying over having been sidelined by Sandy, Sue thought A: "oh, Lucy is being ignored, I can relate to this", and B: "oh, Lucy needs a friend, this is my chance to step up".Then Lucy continued to spiral downwards and attempted suicide, because Lucy doesn't WANT friends, especially not ones who are girls, she only wants male attention. But Sue doesn't know that, so add a bunch of guilt and "could I have done better?" into the mix. So since Lucy came back, Sue's been trying REALLY hard to cheer her up and make her feel welcome. Both because Sue still (incorrectly) thinks that Lucy's problem is that she feels abandoned/ignored and sympathizes with that, and because she feels guilty over having "failed" to help the first time.
>>154133829>Mike is eternally cursed to have his plotlines and character traits stolen by othersTaeshi has regularly displayed significant creative sterility when it comes to her own characters and plotlines, so it's no wonder this is happening. The overarching "plot" of the comic as a whole spends most of its time going in repeititive little circles. The Suemiliation Ritual, Paulo's soggy bitch pity parties, Mandy vs Mucy....
>>154133476So according to Taeshi, Lucy's cheery devil-may-care attitude that has when in public AND relaxed (so almost never), is her "true & honest self". While Lucy's hostile, "I hate them all" attitude which she has in private, and defaults to whenever she's emotionally perturbed or asked about herself, is "just a mask, she doesn't mean it".I think Taeshi may have completely inverted the definitions of "honest" and "masking", somehow.
>>154134463So at best she is a perpetual liar
>>154130450sue is WAY too insecure to ever share a partner
>>154130450>Do we think Sue is bibi-herself lmao gottem
>>154133476Taeshi just loves making up shit about Lucy that rarely, if ever, gets shown in the actual comic.
>>154133476>She's fun when she's not being a cunt (aka normal Lucy)Wow that's totally not beaten housewife logic there
>>154134463My charitable read is that Lucy lies to herself but occasionally cracks when faced with unconditional love and she becomes normalSo she needs Jesus
