>virtually all the Avatar stuff on Pixiv is from English usersJapan really doesn't have any love for this franchise, eh?Also a lot of it is slop.
>>154119278Japan likes cute heavily stylized western shows, not faux anime
>>154119320Which is ironic given how much anime was just faux Disney.
the nips have shit taste, shocker
>>154119278Japanese love heroes who are sure of what they are doing.An Uncertain hero like Aang is something they hate.
>>154119857Nope, Japan loves characters like Deku
>>154119278Western pixiv artists are animals who were too autistic for deviantart.
>>154121058Deviantart won't let them post lewd without artistic intent.
If I get into Avatar I feel like I'm getting into a "watch the show then kill yourself" franchise, since apparently any other attempt at using the Avatar name has been nothing but farce and ineptitude.
>>154119278Woke mob also hits you if you write anything too funny or sexual.
>>154119278Pixiv is overrun by shitty western and Chinese artists in general and has been for years. The AI slop really only exacerbates the problem.
>>154121027They shit on Deku like you wouldn't believe. No, you're confusing mandated beta faggot male leads with what is actually popular and well liked amongst the general populace.
>>154119278American fans don't really get that ATLA isn't really well liked in Asia due to: >a lack of accessibility in the 2000s >it only has two shows>ATLA is great but it doesn't stand out compared to what typically gets pumped out overseas>romance is not the story's strong suit>it's the American equivalent to Japan's D&D inspired European medieval fantasy pop fiction: it superficially looks Asian but in a schizophrenic way and is American to the core>despite being inspired by a bunch of 90s/2000s shonen, Aang lacks that shonen protag appeal
>>154121027>>154119857It's both. Japan likes submissive leads like Deku because Deku is a very pro-collectivist character. He doesn't stand out (to the point other characters reflect on how he looks normal/average/generic) and the only way he DOES stand out is in his relentless service towards other people. Read Be Not Defeated By The Rain, it's a poem that offers a lot of insight into why Horikoshi made Deku that way.At the same time, Japan PREFERS characters like Bakugo who show (some) individuality, aggression, boldness, and have competitive drive...but don't actually DO anything to truly stand out of the crowd or disrupt the social hierarchy. The "socially acceptable bad boy who doesn't do anything that breaks the norms". It's why Jotaro, Ichigo, and Naruto are beloved because despite being delinquent/social pariahs/etc, they uphold the community and preserve the Dharma, even if the status quo is corrupt/flawed/broken.
>>154119278I want more art of Toph domming Katara. It's a very specific niche I want filled.
>>154119834>>154119278Why would the japs care about atla when they already have great anime that surpass atla themselves? Atla is treated like that in the west because there is nothing quite liked it, meanwhile anime had been producing that kind of stuff since the 70s.>>154125069>>ATLA is great but it doesn't stand out compared to what typically gets pumped out overseasTHIS.
>>154125069Basically. It's a gateway to shonen in a similar way that Naruto is, but it'll never be shonen. Best comparison I can think of is how MLP has a negative fanbase in Japan because they have a surplus of shows about cute girls doing cut things. Shame though, I could really go for more Katara art
>>154125126So what you're saying is that the Japanese don't all fit into one mold and like a variety of characters
>>154119857>An Uncertain hero like Aang is something they hate.That's not really true. One of the most beloved shonen protagonists of all time is no had no idea what to do. >>154125126>but don't actually DO anything to truly stand out of the crowd or disrupt the social hierarchy.Eh Jotaro does really stand out and he disrupts the social hierarchy by being a shit father and treating his own grandpa/mom like shit, he doesn't uphold the jap way of respect, not to mention all of the anime/manga where the characters fight against their bosses/leaders because they think they are corrupt.
>>154125199>It's a gateway to shonen in a similar way that Naruto is, but it'll never be shonen. Best comparison I can think of is how MLP has a negative fanbase in Japan because they have a surplus of shows about cute girls doing cut thingsit's a bit weird how that always happens in the west, someone makes something that japan already has but the wets lack and that thing gains a huge fanbase, atla and mlp are good examples but the same idea can be seen with western jrpgs and western vns. they appeal to people that are too afraid to touch anything japanese(even though the japanese have already made stuff on par or even better than the western equivalents)
>>154125179They make a cute pair and Toph being her top is adorable.
>>154125222Well, they almost exclusively prefer characters that are pro-collectivist and don't rock the boat so to speak. The only time that Rebel characters are beloved is when the society/status quo is shown to be corrupted or taken over and the rebel has to overthrow the tyrants in charge. Again, it comes down to pro-collectivism/community.>>154125243Jotaro's an interesting case because while he DOES disrupt the social hierarchy, he also reinforces it:>initially refuses to get out of his jail cell for fear of harming others>mentions fighting bullies and shitty teachers>despite being disrespectful towards his mom, he drops everything to save her life (the manga slightly expands on this: Holly is similar to Joseph, she can easily read his emotions and she knows he doesn't really mean it)>his favorite character is Columbo, a detective>Jotaro still goes to school despite being delinquent and if Holly's flashbacks are anything, he was a model student until he just changed one dayHim being a poor father is weirdly seen as "normal" in Japanese society: it's a very common norm that Japanese meb are expected to uphold, sacrificing time spent with their family in favor of working relentlessly to provide for them.>>154125243Shinji's a VERY interesting case because although Shinji is interpreted as helpless/anxious/nervous/wimpy/unsure, that's not really the case when you put him into the proper cultural context. Any misconceptions are actually the result of the English dub for NGE. Shinji's actually quite stubborn and obstinate. It's what he has in common with Gendo, they're unmoving and mulish. Shinji absolutely knew WHAT to do, it's just that he didn't want to do it.The point of contention is that in America we associate stubbornness with outward aggression and violent refusal: slamming the brakes so hard and going in reverse. Uncertainty on the other hand is associated with submission/wimpiness/anxiousness, hence the divide over Aang.
>>154125198>Why would the japs care about atla when they already have great anime that surpass atla themselvesThey legitimately don't.They do have great anime, yes, but none of it is like ATLAB. Insofar as the anime that is similar tends to either have poor world building or is a one off adaptation they made of a manga 20 years ago. In other words, precisely because of volume it's all rendered mediocre and uneventful, with zero impact. Just another iteration of slop the Japanese animation industry serves up on a daily basis. In the words of Syndrome; "when everyone’s super… no one will be". The Japanese market is inundated with so much garbage nothing stands out anymore. And whatever does gets drowned out by the next thing a year later. Meanwhile the original is still cherished here, to the point Americans are making a live action series and fans are actively trying to get the OS out of Bryke's control because they just want to sit on it. Japanese meanwhile have got what? One Piece? Boruto? Completely different vibes. Completely different approaches to storytelling and thematically distinct from ATLAB. Anime has good series, yes, and they're all forgotten. Their impact on the industry nothing more than another drop in the rain. Pic related, in its time hailed as possibly the best anime ever made, where is it now? Many in this generation haven't even heard of it.
>>154125357ATLA is baby shit compared to the best anime/manga with similar genres>i must remind him
>>154125282>>154125179Toph making Katara her bitch is so hot. We need more.
>>154125357The dogged insistence on 1 or 2 season anime's has been a detriment to the cultivation of long lived large active fanbases. They've been getting out of it in the last 10 years or so precisely because of series like One Piece, but there is still a lot of that crap going on.
>>154125357>poor world building>He said while proping up Avatar, the series whose very premise is built on shit world buildinglolLmao even
>>154125384No one cares about your 90's OVA
>>154125405>Instant deflectionA lion turtle wont save you KEK
>>154125243Japan universally prefers characters with resolve, it's why a lot of typical shonen/seinen protags are stoic and have unshakable willpower. It doesn't really matter if they're crybaby bitches like Deku or stubborn like Shinji, the emotional draw is that the character is still DOING something and has no hangups over it AS they do the action, even if they're "doing nothing".They actively dislike characters who are genuinely emotionally unstable, value their desires over the community's desires, or are indecisive and lack conviction in their actions. It's part of the reason why Sonic isn't more popular, or at least not the American perception of the character. J-Sonic is no-nonsense and serious while American Sonic is the opposite. Similarly, Ryuji from P5 is beloved by American audiences while he's hated by Japanese audiences. America loves Decepticons but Japan doesn't like them. America hates Zenitsu but Japan loves him. Silent SI RPG protags have a mixed reception in America while they're massively popular in Japan.
>>154125404>>154125412>hurr I liek wat u dun lieknot an argument
>>154125357>hey do have great anime, yes, but none of it is like ATLABNah many surpass Atla, lotgh is better written than anything in it. Ahsita no Joe is a shonen and has way better wirten protagonist and I can name many more. >The Japanese market is inundated with so much garbage nothing stands out anymore. Absolutely retarded, that's like saying that cinema is infused with so much garbage that nothing stands anymore, anime has produced so many fantastic series and movies that all stand out meanwhile cartoons have little to provide. >And whatever does gets drowned out by the next thing a year later.Wong people talk all the time about the greats of the 00s or 90s or 80s. > Anime has good series, yes, and they're all forgotten.Absolutely retarded, even using your example cowboy bebop got a western live action which wouldn't have been made if it were forgotten. > Japanese meanwhile have got what? One Piece? Boruto? Completely different vibes.Lol, beloved 90s/90s anime get modern sequels and remakes all the fucking time(which is not a good thing because just like the atla ones they suck) > Their impact on the industry nothing more than another drop in the rain.You are so low iq, Gundam, Eva, any of the Dezaki's whos have absolutely revolutionized the industry. > Many in this generation haven't even heard of it.Many zoomers don't care about atla either and Eva is extremely popular amongst every generation even more so than Atla. I don't get why you are comparing popularity when I am talking about quality, japan has made series that are on par or better than avatar and even you seem to agree.
>>154125393>lot of that crap going on.There is but also some good stuff , Idk what that anon is talking about there are lot of big 00s anime fanbases(which is when atla aired) + most modern western cartoons also have fanbases that only last a month
>>154125343>in favor of working relentlessly to provide for them.Jotaro didn't provide that's the problem btw I wasn't talking about shinji but about Joe, he is motivated at first but then loses it and then starts flip flopping between depression, motivation and uncertainty.
>>154125357>Anime has good series, yes, and they're all forgotten.Dishonest avatards are the new Abe Simpson of animation. Their IP has been dogshit for so long that they cope with shit like this. meanwhile One Piece is making waves in the west to the point where people liked the LA over the one for Avatar despite them both being glorified fanfic, Demon slayers continues to break bank at the box office while the shitty aang movie got pulled because paramount knew it was doa, and bleach is more relevant than avatar with the number of new anime/manga its directly influenced.
>>154119278I feel the fact the villain nation is modeled of off imperial japan might have something to do with it.
>>154125357>The Japanese market is inundated with so much garbageSo Watchmen doesn't stand out because the comic market has 999999999999999999999999999999999 capeshit stories? The cartoon market is also filled with nothing but cheap comedies. If nothing stood out in the anime market then you wouldn't have people still dick sucking something like Tehxnolyze after 20 years. You are retarded.
>>154125440Legend of the Galactic heroes is quite possibly one of the worst anime I have ever seen. The fact you hail it is enough of a reason for everyone to disregard your opinion. >100+ episodes >to recreate Alexander the Greats death >tell us management is important>and terrorism is bad m'kayI've never been more angry at an anime ending than I was at logh and not because I wanted more, but because the entire plot could have been wrapped up in 20 episodes and I was stupid enough to listen to the chuds that told me It was so good. That fucking thing is such a goddamn waste of time. You're better off reading a history book, I swear to god. Fuck that whole series and rape it with a cactus, it's the hipster douchbag "u wouldn't get it" of the entire anime industry. If it died in a fire and shat out volcanic glass it would be too good of an end for it.
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>>154125343>>154125424I really recommend you read the Akumetsu manga.
>>154125490>TehxnolyzeNever heard of it. nerds gonna nerd ig
>>154125502Atla is the worst cartoon I've ever seen >muh peace>muh can't kill>gets saved by shitty deux ex machina Literally the worst written slop ever, atla tards have no media taste.
>>154125343Japan has literally never made a single thing that's good.
>>154125522>5522Alright /thread.
>>154125502You are really low iq, anyways it's a fact that the characters in lotgh, even secondary ones have may depth than in atla I can name plenty of other series as well. You have extremely low standards because atla is the only animated series you've watched. Also curious tell me how Lotgh could have been wrapped up in 20 episodes
>>154125519God forbid characters have character amirite?
>>154125510Fr fr no cap, we zoomers only know atla because of tiktok shorts ong
>>154125357>>154125357Truth nuke
>>154125546God forbid has retarded writing with pussy ass bitches characters that need to be saved by the garbage plot, man atla is such slop.
>>154125543>You have extremely low standards because atla is the only animated series you've watched.I cant tell you how often this is the case with Avatards. every time they step out their containment threads they get exposed on how little they know about other cartoons much less animation on the whole. UC Gundam was doing similar themes but better back in the 80's
>>154125562Gundam is shit though as are 99% of anime compared to atla
>>154125357CHADboy Bebop was better than Avatar and it had hotter girls.
>>154125543Explain to me why you needed 100+ episodes to tell us the story when every plot thread ends up going nowhereIt's one of the biggest examples of Japanese storytelling I've seen falling flat on its face. They made a pseudo docudrama about fictitious space war and the people in it. Which on the surface sounds cool, except none of this happened so you don't have the excuse of real life being bad writing.
You will find zero anime that has the same appeal avatar does. The only cartoon that comes even remotely close is wakfu.
>>154125571Banagher alone shits on Aang despite also being a muh pacifist fag, and he's not even a top tier UC gundam protag
>>154125577It's also like 5 episodes long. What a shame that is. Meanwhile avatar delivers satisfaction on par with cowboy bebop for 4 seasons kek.
>>154125561Japanman is triggered lol
>>154125553>everyone makes fun of me>I better reply to myselfPathetic lmao>>154125571War in the pocket is better written and directed than everything in atla. >are 99% of anime compared to atlayou wish but hell even if that was true you are basically admitting that there are plenty of anime that still are better which is still a step in the right direction.
>>154125592Idk who that is but Aang is a thousand percent more iconic than he is.
>>154125583>>154125571>>154125553>>154125357Totally not same person...Dont you a leak thread for the shitty brown indian girl sequel to doompost in? must suck that that is the best you have to look forward to for your dying comifornia IP
>>154125582>Explain to me why you needed 100+ episodes to tell us the story when every plot thread ends up going nowhereWhich plot threads, name all of them. It still doesn't change that it has better written character than atla. Also for every aspect of bad writing, LOGH delivers plenty of good writing to compensate.
>>154125600>schizophreniaI'm not him you retard>>154125600>war in the pocket blah blah blahWho cares about some shit nobody watched in the west?
>>154125600>Pathetic lmao>everyone i talk to is the same personlollmao even
>>154125593It's 20+ episodes, meanwhile atla has 1 good season and even that one is worse that Bebop's one. Other anons have already mentioned longer anime anyways.
>>154125604>Idk who that isOf course you dont, you avatards dont know shit and are the laughing stock of animation circles.
How can Aang consider himself a pacifist when he took away a dude's bending for good and left him to rot in prison for the rest of his life. A fate arguably not much better than death
Only anime I think on par with atla are dbz, naruto, cowboy bebop, and full metal alchemist
>>154125620>>154125615Eh you are both low IQ retards so it's the same shit, I am sorry atla can't compete.
>>154125611lol
>>154125604Goku is more popular than atla
>>154125639>only some shonen and bebopGrim
>>154125631>avatarfans are the laughing stock of the animation industry That's why we keep getting new shows?
>>154125653Need i watch more when I've already seen peak? I think not.
>biggest atla fan admits that naruto is on par with atlaFinally, you realized that atla is just an average shonen
>>154125595I hate deux ex machinas in shonen as well, Atla is just a garbage story with a garbage mc.
>>154125627Every single season of avatar dogwalks 99% of anime im sorry
>>154125648Bro I am sorry everyone has shat on you... it's just that atla can't compete with the best of anime
>>154125664Naruto part one is still one of the best anime I've ever seen
>>154125654>keep getting new shows>seven havens is the first new show since whorra ended a decade ago in attempt to revive the IP>it's already DOA via releasing on paramount +KEK
>>154125639Dbz is superior to atla. Atla will never be on par with dbz.
>>154125639>>154125661Why can’t the west make more shows like them? If japan has made 4 peak shows why did the west make only 1?
>>154125671Nah only 2 is great. Cowboy Bebop dogwalks 100% of cartoons including atla
>>154119591You westoids really wont let that go, even though it hasnt even been relevant since the 70s
>>154125679So uh where's that bebop new season then anon?
>>154125675Naruto part 1 mogs the shit out of atla lol
>>154125690I enjoyed both pretty evenly desu
>>154125634Prison is better than letting him commit genocide, at least for Ozai’s eternal soul. He’ll reincarnate with better karma, at least. Zuko hoped his time in prison would be good for him. Though Korra basically defeats everything I’m saying as you’re completely correct with Yakone, who became a hollow shell of a man and abused his kids, who became absurdly powerful demigods
>>154125688Dragon ball got more seasons than atla with even more coping and we all know that quantity=quality so cope
>>154125613>Which plot threadsLiterally all of them. The ones that die do so abruptly. Those that don't have no resolution. There's tons of build up that goes nowhere. From nation states falling after mystery boxes were presented to big brain schemers dying miserably. Narratively it's a mess. "It has the character though" Is not a defense of a poorly written story. It is boring, it meanders, it has damn near no point, and when it finally does it could have reached its great epiphany with a 5 minute PSA. It's what a pseud thinks good storytelling is because someone found it boring and they managed to cram enough ritalin into their ass to power through. I don't say this often but you should legitimately feel bad for liking that show.
>>154125583The appeal of avatar are the characters and there are plenty of anime that are better in that regard though
>>154125684Cowboy bebop is also only 5 episodes...
>>154125702+1
>>154125690I agree, but every single female character jerking off Sasuke and Sasuke surpassing Rock Lee purely due to the strength of his eyes is pretty eye-rolling, and it only gets worse from there. By the end of it even Naruto’s friendship with him seems forced when Sasuke just laughs at the suffering the retrieval team went though.
>>154125706Doubt. Most anime are just depressing and or overly sexualized
>>154125699I can be a faggot posting Zutoph if it makes you feel better
>>154125674Obviously, it can't compete because it isn't trash.
>>154119278Why would it?Understand that the popularity of anime (in Japan) is tied to multimedia. Anime is an advertisement to manga, light novels, and merch.If you wanted find Japs over you would have commission and mangaka to draw entire series as a manga.
>>154125702>Literally all of them.Name them, 5 plots threads and say how you would have done them. > to big brain schemers dying miserably.Which ones in particular? That are some bad deaths in Logh but there are plenty of memorable and fantastic ones >"It has the character though" Is not a defense of a poorly written story. It's a character driven story so a lot of the time is spent building them. >It is boring, it meanders, it has damn near no point, and when it finally does it could have reached its great epiphany with a 5 minute PSAGeneric criticism with no substance, using the same logic atla is boring and could have reached its pint in a 5 minutes pas as well(while having worse written characters)
>>154125613You already know who he wont be specific because he's talking out of his ass KEK
>>154125726Atla was and to merch as well but the toys weren't that good desu.
>>154125714You already mentioned naruto yourself lil bro
>>154125714Nah, not really. Ping pong had better characters, same as Bebop.
>>154125728aw, alright. Fair enough.
>>154125738*an ad
>>154125699You rang?
>>154125720True because avatar is beyond trash. You got so destroyed in your reply kek. Sorry atla can’t compete with the greats.
>>154125707It's 26 episodes.
>>154125764cute
>anime has better girls Then why have a busted more loads to Toph than I ever have an anime girl?
RoV>>>>>>>>>>>>>avatar, For western cartoons BTAS was better than atla
>>154125750Never heard of ping pong anime desu maybe it is good but I dont really care for sports so meh.
>>154125738I feel like merc-centrict has certain appeal to be succesul.Pokemon crash is successful because women and pre-pubescents find it cute.Gundam sells because mechas are cool things used as paperweights.But what do with Avatar merc? Who the fuck wants an Aang action figure on their shelf? Maybe Oppa plushie, but not really anything special.The point is that most merc centrict entries design the toys before finding any story purpose
>>154125780it’s not self insert though, they hugged and are friends in the show. People ship for far less
>>154125733I touched on the plot points and anyone that watched the series will know what I'm talking about, I'm not rewriting the series in this thread for you because that's something you can get away with asking on the Japanese internet. But there's something in writing called Chekhov's gun, you don't show something and tell the audience it's great and amazing and something cool is going to happen and then it gets roflstomped over a 2 minute voice over or worse just nothing happens. It's not ok when JJ does it it's not ok here. Plenty of stories are character driven, that doesn't mean you abruptly cut plots or kill off characters after building them up, nor does it mean you need over 100 episodes to develop them. You can do the same without being such a tedious bore. And if "muh characters" is all the story has after all that, you should feel even worse.
>>154125783Because you are you? Eva has had more loads busted to it than any atla girls and it's older than it Also 90s style girls in animation >> 00s style girls in animation.
I'm gonna be honest guys anything that has 50000+ chapters is not gonna be better than atla
>>154125809>I touched on the plot points and anyone that watched the series will know what I'm talking about, I'm not rewriting the series in this thread for you because that's something you can get away with asking on the Japanese internet.You haven't. Why are you afraid , name the plot points? Do it. It's funny how you can either defend atla or critique logth.
>>154119278>Japan really doesn't have any love for this franchise, eh?They really don't, and I don't blame them. The world of Avatar is absolutely Eastern-inspired, but just because the main cast has loosely inspired anime aesthetics doesn't mean that's an easy win-over for the Japanese audience.
>>154125810>aspirin assewww
>>154125810Ok but show me a better piece of porn than that mrpotatoparty picture of sokka creaming katara. You literally can't.
>>154125788>For western cartoons>BTAS>STAS>Justice League>Teen Titans>Batman Beyond>Star Wars the Clone WarsThere's a bunch of stuff in the west alone that I rate above ATLA. it wasn't even the best of its era
>>154125804>Overrated trash that never made big even in JapanIt was big in plenty of european countries + japan and it's still better than atla.
>>154125820So Gendo can penetrate his AT-Field
>>154125795It's not really about sports.>>154125819Ping pong is really short
>>154125522I know we're on /co/ and all but you don't have to just say nonsense
>>154125820That's a nice try but you were posting toph which literally looks like a boy. >>154125830>mrpotatoparty Literally who?
>>154125522Fact
>>154125822>just rewrite the whole anime for me anon>you're so scaredYes anon, I'm so terrifiedLike I said, I touched on them. I'm not rewriting the series and I'm not dissecting it after reading the wiki because you got triggered. If it triggered you so much maybe go back to your safe space and rewatch it. It's only a little more than 100 episodes.
>>154125860https://files.catbox.moe/txjrvm.jpeg
>>154125857So Db is better than atla because it’s more popular?
>>154125783That image looks like garbage, what ugly slop. Holy shit the west can't draw.
>>154125854/co/ unfortunately has a lot of buckbroken fags in denial of reality due to the utter state of western animation the last decade. no room for nuance in acknowledging that there is some good /a/ stuff
>>154125860>>154125810Why the hell can't oldschool on model anime girls actually be hot?
>>154125871Eh, it's ok. I wouldn't say it's anything special. I would have commended it if it were in the cartoon itself though.
>>154125869>Can't name a single arc>i totally touched on themVaugeposting when you have no argument: the comment
incognitymous avatar stuff also dogwalks 99% of hentai
>>154125357>>poor world buildingDefine poor worldbuilding?Gemini gave it as:>According to literary guides and professional editors, poor worldbuilding occurs when a setting lacks internal logic, consistency, or emotional connection to the plot>No Structural Consequences: Introducing a massive element (like magic, advanced tech, or monsters) but failing to show how it alters society. For example, if a world has powerful wizards who can blast through castle walls, but kingdoms still build traditional medieval stone castles anyway, the author has ignored the logical consequences of their own creationDoesn't that apply to ATLA? Why is Earth Kingdom just China?
>>154125699>fun firecestHere
>>154125869>Yes anon, I'm so terrifiedIf you really cared about Lotgh and you were so passionate about your dislike of it you would be able to point out all of those problems you have with it(if you have actually watched it). Your next answer better be something with substance or I won't consider it anymore.
>>154125847>Ping pong is really shortI said what I said for a reason. There's good anime and it's usually limited. Ping pong is peak.
Toph would kill Gaara btw
>>154125886You might be a retarded zoomer but they are way hotter than the atla ones., people draw off model fanart to make the atla girls look presentable. Also anime was not afraid to show tits.
>>154125357>Japanese meanwhile have got what?We could be here all night
>>154125918.>here's good anime and it's usually limited.way more than western cartoons >Ping pong is peak.And better than atla.
>>154125765Avatar could have been the next dragon ball if they just continued with aang in his adult years like what they did with goku.
>>154125907>If you really cared about Lotgh and you were so passionate about your dislike of it you would be able to point out all of those problems>If you didn't like something you would have encyclopedic knowledge of itThat's not at all how that worksDo you have severe autism? Am I actually talking to a turbosperg anon fro mjapanland?
>toph looks like a boyDoes that mean I'm gay?
>>154125920She doesn’t do anything as impressive as him shielding all of Sunagakure or fighting his father Rasa, Death Battle are complete idiots
>>154125695Nah naruto is fun from the beginning, i tried watching atla and i dropped it because it's boring slop. extremely overrated
>>154125860I cant unsee shinji now
>>154125907>you would be able to point out all of those problems you have with itMy guy, he would be able to tell you general areas of poor quality. You don't obsess over things you hate. At least you're not supposed to.
>>154125940>encyclopedic knowledge of it>being able to say one specific thing requires this somehowAnon got BTFO so bad he's making discourse seem like rocket science KEK
>>154125931it’s the final stance in the foundational firebending set, the show referenced db for reasons
>>154125922Just look at your image blindbro, she look like a boy which is fine since atla fans are faggots
>>154125199is horse show actually disliked there? Why would they dislike it compared to stuff like MLAATR or Power puff or other shows with cute girls?
>>154125947>dropped the greatest cartoon ever madeThat's kinda sad
>>154125965>shifting that goalpost. He asked me to rewrite 5 parts of the series anon. The fuck.
>>154125964>My guy, he would be able to tell you general areas of poor quality.I mean by telling me at least 2 or 3 specific scenes and plot threads that he actually hated. I can do that for shows I've disliked.
>>154125972>you dropped the least stinkiest of the turdsNot my problem, next time write a better show. Naruto is just fan, atla is boring slop with garbage writing.
>>154125974You cant even say one specific thing anon, you lost all credibility when you cant/wont even do that.
>>154125937>And better than atla.relax anon, I never stated otherwise
>>154125960Dragon ball mogs both of them. >>154125972>greatest cartoonThat's Dragon Ball not avatar though
I'll be honest all the anime I've seen at least number in the tens Avatar was pretty dang good and it's one of the few shows I've watched like 4 times. The only thing that I've seen almost that much from anime is dragonball z.
>>154119278what are some toons japan actually likes?
>>154126010Sounds like you need to broaden your horizons
>>154125992Avatar is still better then 99% of anime not named full metal alchemist brotherhood. I hate to say it.
>>154126004I just like fluffy girls, Botan is pretty hot as well>many hotter Yuyu Hakusho girlsRank the hottest YYH girls.
>>154126004>>154126007Okay ese, run along to /dbg/ now
>>154126022And? Naruto mogs it I don't care about the rest. Damn avatar is such slop.
>>154126010>Avatar was pretty dang goodIt was mediocre imo, the ending ruined everything about it. DBZ is so much better
>>154126033Uh fuck botan, Atsuko, ruko, Shizuru , koto, the slave bitch uhhh
>>154126039Dbz is overrated, it’s a comedy first and foremost
>>154126021Eh anime tends to be time consuming or not very fun. Avatar is just so fun and quick to watch. It's just a good time all around and fun with the entire family. I can't put on an anime half the time and expect it to draw a crowd like avatar does.
>>154126018recent? hazbin hotel and digital circus
Damn. You guys really don't know what to do with anime, huh? I guess if you want something old-school aside from Cowboy Bebop or YuYu Hakusho, or Dragon Ball, watch Ashita No Joe. Also, I wouldn't put Naruto on that high of a pedestal, honestly, but to each their own.
>>154125999Good. Imo there are a lot more good anime with continuity than cartoons because the industries evolved differently in the 70s. The are more good comedy cartoons.
>>154126067>Avatar is just so fun and quick to watch.Nah too long and boring.
>>154126059Still better than atla
Avatar is better than anime and it's not even close. You will not find the same appeal avatar does in an anime without it being mean-spirited or nihilistic. Anime is rarely ever hopeful or lighthearted.
>>154125998I named 2 specific things, after I told you All the plots went nowhere, and pointed out that more than once a character/thing was alluded to being important and then just not being important. Now you're insisting I what? Remember their names? I honestly can't remember a single character from your character driven story and I wont look them up. Bald schemer guy dies after doing fucking nothing, big strategist lasered to death, Skinny blonde politics man kills a country and then gets shot. Already touched on some of these but keep pretending. Maybe shift the goalpost again, this time to how this was all ok.
>>154119278You wanna know what's actually weird? There's a lot of Curious George art on Pixiv made by Japs. That monkey's crazy popular in Japan, I think I read somewhere it had more viewership than Spy X Family even at the height of its hype.
>>154126057>Maybe only the first two seasons.Yes those ones genuinely mog everything in avatar. >>154126067I had more fun watching naruto than atla.
>>154126098>Avatar is better than anime and it's not even closeWrong , DBZ absolutely destroys it.
>>154126098> Anime is rarely ever hopeful or lighthearted.Come on now. And Naruto is extremely similar to Avatar, uniting warring elemental nations with a destined reincarnated messiah kid pacifist
>>154126116The only thing DBZ destroys is itself after 5 episodes of yelling saiyans.
>>154126104>All the plots went nowhere,Which plots? >big strategist lasered to deathName what's wrong with that? That says nothing about him or the context of him getting lasered. And the same question for your other examples.
>>154126104you gave vague comments but no specific examples, which you're afraid to do for some reason. the floor is yours anon, what was one specific plot that went nowhere?
>>154126124>The rest of Naruto is abyssal trash.And? Most of atla is pure garbage slop so Naruto is better
>>154126098>Anime is rarely ever hopeful or lighthearted.
>>154126127It ends with sasuke stabbing naruto threw the lung. I didn't read the next part sorry
>>154126130>Which plots?>tells you some plots>which plotskek>Maybe shift the goalpost again, this time to how this was all ok.> what's wrong with that?You literally cannot make this shit up. Goodnight sperganon, stay triggered.
>>154126128>t. hasn't watched itIt's more popular than atla for a reason.
>>154126140Half the anime listed in the thread end with everybody dying
>>154126067For me it's the exact opposite. I watched Avatar but it was so childish and there was barely any depth in it. I prefer seinen manga and anime to it. Haibane Renmei stayed with me but atla didn't.
>>154126143Sasuke reconciles with him and the two go on to create world peace
>>154126149>season 1: slop filler >season2 : ok, but it could be better>season3 : deux ex machina garbage endingIt's slop.
>>154126151>Eva and what elseEven if that were true, there are hundreds of light hearted anime or stuff with a happy end.
>>154126159Wrong >>154126169No, you stupid tranny
>>154126159No idea what show that is but it likely has everybody dying right?
>>154126145>tells you some plotsYou've named no plots just character does X but you've not said what's wrong about character doing X? Why is it bad writing ? Why is it a bad plot?>GoodnightGo to sleep, larper.
>>154126178The opposite but I won't go into spoilers.
>>154126168>retard has a meltdown because there are anime that are better than atla(he is probably not even a real atla fan)>people shit on him What did you expect?
>>154126192I wasnt going to watch it anyway but okMost anime I've tried to watch just end up with everybody dying or it being really sad so I stopped watching anime lol.
>>154126199Fuck off anyway
>>154126205>got filtered by 2-3 anime>proceed to assume there all the sameWe could tell anon...
>>154126195>Aang show is unironically better.Nah, it's pure garbage. you have garbage taste. Atla is also filled with generic slop. Even Dragon ball mogs atla. >Naruto is so bad it was a bannable thing here years agoNever on /co/ lol.
>>154126200I don't watch pretentious shows, HR is pretty direct in it's message and characterization, I just like shows that are better written.
>>154126210Well if they didn't make so many sad/depressing anime i wouldnt need to assume they all are like that? Idk about you but I like my cartoons to be on the brighter side of things.
>>154126213What anime are better than avatar in your opinion? I've been watching Giant Robo the animation recently and imo it mogs the shit out of atla.
>>154126223My favorite moekino is Devilman Lady
>>154126211Faggot
>>154126221>my assumotion is totally not retarded !Unironically watch more shit. there's literally an entire genre of anime for light hearted shit,
>>154126244This looks stupid though
>>154126235Isn't it an adaptation of the manga? I've watched it because I always though the robot deign looks cool as fuck(and I haven't watched a mecha where the main characters stays outside of it before). You haven't answered the question, which ones are better?
>>154126213Someone already posted Joe the Chad thoughever.
>>154126244People who don't watch anime at all like to do this thing where they want to explain away why it's bad. Obviously these people have no idea what they're talking about.
>>154125783>posts off model fanartEVERY DAMN TIME>>154125925Based, the Gunbuster girls are better than any of the atla whore. Designs peaked in the 80s.
>>154126275Fuck off, coomerfag
>>154126279Get a job kid
>>154126124Wtf you are a pedo? I thought Dragon ball fans were the last non-pedo anime fans.
>>154126282No, fag
>>154126269It's so tiring... they cant just ask for recommendations like a normal person, because you KNOW that's exactly what they want, but they cant be honest about it. i get it we're on /co/, but even by that token there are toonami threads here. the resources are available for these retards
>>154126284Cope
>>154126283>Space DandySpace Dandy is from the 10s though.
>>154126296Maybe people really just find anime bad? Could be that
>>154126084Those are the ones that stood out to me, I've watched YYK when I was a kid a long ass time ago and I genuinely wasn't that big of a fan of Keiko.
>>154126312Stop coping
>>154125922>>154125820Misato is insanely hot, keep coping.
>>154126341You cope, faggot
>>154126283Spics like you are so weird. I agree that there are good and bad anime and that atla is overrated but your meltdown started because people found some anime girls hotter than you atla ones. You should calm down.
>>154126374Why does toph the boy pretend he is a girl?
>>154126362>Only turbo trannies likes this show. It's also the worst genre of fiction ever.You've basically described Atla lmao
>>154126381Stop coping
>Yet another East vs West thread where schitzos try and futilely deny that Anime is crushing Western Animation like a grape.This time, it's funny to see someone arguing that Avatar: Last Airbender, a cartoon series that apes the aesthetics of anime, is somehow superior to all anime for some reason.One of the greatest cartoon in the West is but just a mid-tier anime franchise if it was created in Japan.
>>154126389No, fuck off.
>>154126362> he said while posting family guyirony aside, picrel was just an example of moe anime, which is entirely light hearted like the anon was stealth asking for. but you knew that you dishonest faggot
>>154126393>can't readYou should have imagined the commas faggot. Now answer the question.
>>154119278Yeah Katawa Shoujo learned this one the hard way too.
>>154126362True
>>154126401False It's better than any anime ever created. Every character is more ironic and memorable than anything from japan.
>>154126422>East vs West Schizo denies reality yet again.Got any other arguements besides Japan bad?
>>154126159This, I mean atla is ok but there's a lot of great anime to explore, people should broaden their horizons. Some of my favorites are Cowboy Bebop, 1st season of Gits Sac, Texhnolyze, Ideon movies, future boy conan, Ping Pong, Kon's works, Nadja. Even for fantasy there is Souja Erin that is pretty good.
>>154125477Why did it take this long for someone to cut to the chase
I like how the alternative to atla is.. girls doing nothing if you ask for a lighthearted equivalent from Japan. I want to see heros winning without it being depressing and everybody dying. Japan doesn't make heroic shows like avatar does. Because they go and make it depressing.
>>154126452>It's better than any anime ever createdLogh is better >Every character is more ironic and memorable than anything from japan.Goku absolutelly destroys your agument.
>>154125522The mountain of lactation JAV says otherwise
>>154126434>Why should I if you can't answer any?Please think about your question. Also tell me what exactly was ESL about my post?
>>154126470>reddit spacing No, newfag
>>154126478Goku and aang I'll admit are nearly equivalent in terms of cultural icons. But it's just goku who is better than aang as a character.
>>154126476You don't know anything about anime. I can easily name an example without even thinking that much: Moribito.
>>154126494>Goku and aang I'll admit are nearly equivalent in terms of cultural iconsWrong Goku is waaaay more popular, same as other characters in DB compared to their atla counterparts. Other 90s/00s shonen are also more popular than atla. You also forgot Pokemon.
>>154126500How much you wanna bet that everybody in this show dies?
>>154126448>im ignoring you>calling anyone else a troonFaggot
>>1541265170 because they don't lol. It's a simple fantasy story that has less deaths than atla.
>>154126448If CCS can be counted as moe then it absolutely destroys your digital rig puppet slop animation with her cool cel animated kino.
>>154126526Well I don't believe you as every action anime kills off anybody they want for cheap drama
>>154126531Not even, shitposts are better
>>154126531This looks great. Is it from the movie?
>>154126534you haven’t watched even a little of what you’re talking about, you can stop pretending like you have
>>154126534Well I don't care what you think, you can't rewrite reality. Moribito is a friendly family anime with less deaths than atla.
>>154125795It's really good and really short and you require zero learning curve with grorious nihon to appreciate it.
>>154126542>shonen thingBrownbro, please stop replying to my posts.
>>154126561>grorious nihonYWNBJ
>>154126561Anon, why are you replying to that fag when he doesn't want to watch any anime and his favorite shows are dragon ball, atla and naruto. He will probably not be able to appreciate Ping Pong.
>>154125908> always rewatchableWhat if I'm not a fatherless spic
>>154126542moe is for an adult otaku audience and CCS is for little girls that are gonna draw their favorite costumes and become creators, that's the CLAMP brainwash.There's a lot of girl aimed media that feels like shonen when compared to teen media. Pretty Cure has like 30 series.
>>154126570Stop being mindbroken
>>154125882New here I seeEnjoy yourself
>>154126551Well. At least avatar is funMore fun than any anime
>>154126578You sound extremely mad, maybe you should calm down a little. I am sorry your father wasn't there for you.
>>154126601Part 1 naruto is more fun
>>154126601You keep repeating the same shit but it has no weight behind it. I've watched plenty of anime that I thought were better.
>>154126606No, Jamarcus
>>154126422>It would be unironically great if it was from Japan since the world building, power system, lore and charisma of the characters are good.Eh, they are ok but if it were anime no one would treat like that since there are way better anime. >is good but a lot of examples posted here are bad shows.Which ones? Naruto? Sure.
>>154126608Well I thought avatar was better than most anime. I've seen avatar like 6 times now and I'm still entertained every time. Also I'll be honest I just hate anime. I hate the styles and tones too it. It's always a chore to even watch an single episode for me.
>>154126619>n-no you>esl spic lingoClassic.
>>154126628Yes but before that it mogs the shit out of atla>>154126621Nice cope
>>154126621>>154126625
>>154126633And? That's like your opinion. I had a lot of problems trying to rewatch atla since some of the earlier episodes were really rough. > was better than most anime.What were the anime that you liked more than Avatar?
>>154126639>and cia did.
>>154126639My bad, I misread as you saying that if atla was left in the exact same state it would be treated as well as it is now.>apan would treat the material better instead of what Bryke and cia did.Maybe, depending on the director it could have been indeed treated way better.
>Aang: kisses wife >Goku: doesn’t kiss his wife I think we’re done here, Gokeks
>>154126628>dogshitSo like avatar?
>>154119278> English usersNot surprising that the Japanese aren't interested, since they can probably see every glaring cultural inconsistency of the 'eastern inspired' that we Westerners are happy to ignore.Though I am quite surprised that it's mostly English folk, I'd have assumed Americans would have produced a good amount.
>>154126649>i-i am done>keeps replyingYou are such a fucking bitch. I am sorry Sakura's show is better than you sitcom number 47634543853545
>>154126401THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!I like Avatar but I won't pretend it's the best ever. A lot of atla fans just don't have experience with anime and other media in general . It's still a nice show and I would fuck Azula.
>>154126633I’ve rewatched Outlaw star more times than avatar since it’s a more fun show imo
>>154126678>I swear I am done >keeps cryingLol, what's up with you?
>>154126659Stop coping
>>154126644I liked uh probably soul eater more than avatar. But I tried to watch fire force and I guess I grew out of anime by then
>>154126283eva is better than both atla and dragon ballthe eoe movie hit me in the feels more than these 2 series could
>>154126708I grew out of atla when i discovered dragon ball, a show that actually shows blood unlike that kiddy shit
>>154126708So you've only watched some shounen? There are plenty of adult anime to enjoy that are way more mature than atla. Avatar is basically a shounen so if you've grown out of those you can do the same with avatar.
>>154126712Eva is dogshit compared to avatar because it doesn't rely upon shock value to keep the attention of its viewers
>>154126718the fags that like db and atla are sissies as well since they all talk about "muh this moment made me cry" "muh this moment made me emotional"
>>154126719Faggot
>>154126722>it doesn't rely upon shock>you are shown the skeletons of angs tribeLol, it does. Have you even watched eva? There isn't that much shock value, atla relies on the characters being retarded so the show never advances.
>>154126729No, stop projecting
>>154126719>show that actually shows blood unlike that kiddy shitThis is what I hate about Avatar, it's literally made for dumb children. Too afraid to show realistic fights and consequences. Impossible to enjoy as an adult
>>154126757Nope
>>154126789Yeah I want consequences in my stories. Lmao imagine calling anyone a manchild while you worship a shitty cartoon made for dumb children.
>>154126800>a shitty cartoon made for dumb children.Shut up, gigafaggot
>>154126757>Somehow Azula manages to convince, the Dai Li, the elite police force of the Ba Sing Ce, to side with her despite being utterly outnumbered and would be a perfect hostage against the Fire Nation.>Somehow Ozai doesn't just execute every single prisoner who got left behind during the Day of the Black Sun invasion.>Sokka is given a sword but can't even use it in fights.>Aang needed Spiritual Lion-Turtle hax to get Energybending and a rock that luckly unlocks his Avatar state to defeat Ozai without ruining his pacifist beliefs.Avatar is definitely limited by it's TV-7 rating.
>>154126757It would benefit from more sex and blood, I agree.
>>154126827It would benefit a lot from showing tits
>>154126827No>>154126836Fuck off, retard
>>154126826Ozai would just let them kill Azula and have another kid, his own father sired Ozai at 70 or something equally ludicrous
I think it's unfair to dismiss Avatar as a Western attempt at shonen when there's so much more obvious inspiration from classic martial arts movies and very little that fits the tropes of the shonen genre. I agree however that it's held back by the age rating and that it probably makes some japs seethe that their stand-in nation is the bad guy. The main Earth Kingdom location being a dystopia and the Tibet metaphor being the heroes probably rubs off the Chinese the wrong way as well.
>>154126857Ozai was 40 when Azulon died at 95 years of age.Azulon had his sons at 45 and 55.You are probably thinking about Ozai's grandfather Sozin, who fathered Azulon at 82.
>>154126901Shonen is a demographic. If atla had been made in japan it would have been a shonen. There are plenty of great shonen btw. Already mentioned it but Ashita no Joe, so it's not really dismissive. > more obvious inspiration from classic martial arts moviesWhy does this argument only apply to atla? >other western cartoon shows some inspiration from animeWOW THE CREATOR IS A WEEEEB>an anime shows some inspiration from a western movieWOW THE CREATOR IS A WESTABOOAtla has clear anime inspirations confirmed by the creators, like Flcl and Ghibli movies. >but it's inspired by other stuff as wellYES, like literally most media. They all take inspirations from other places not just one.
>>154126901IMO, Avatar isn't an "exact" imitation of Shounen but Avatar does have the same appealing formula as Shounen anime.Heck, I'll include the likes of the Teen Titans 2003 and Ben 10 as sucessful examples of having anime influencrs.>These are shows have story arcs, big epic fight scenes (also known as "hype moments and aura") and character-focus plots.
>>154126942I know shonen is a demographic but when people use the word in western forums they usually mean the Dragon Ball type of story. And indeed lots of anons ITT were comparing Aang to Deku and shit like that.
Btw this " atla is better than all animu" is a newfag thing, oldfags that liked atla had no problem in accepting the existence of anime that were as good or even better than atla. Hell a well known Azula tripfag spent a lot of time on /a/ and was a huge fan of anime.
>>154126976>I know shonen is a demographic but when people use the word in western forums they usually mean the Dragon Ball type of storyThose are usually called Battle shonen and even there you have some good stuff like most of Yuyu hakushou. >And indeed lots of anons ITT were comparing Aang to Deku and shit like that.Those were probably the first posts, the thread moved away from that pretty fast. My point is that if atla was released in japan unchanged it would have been classified as as shonen and it would have aired on a channel for kids.
>>154126979I'm sure there's always been people like that. Everytime something comes out that waters down Japanese genres to western sensibilites you get the types who are like "finally an anime that is not fucking gay". There is some truth to the popular argument today that western audiences hate "sincerity" (which is really genre writing)
>>154126979>Btw this " atla is better than all animuIf you haven't noticed the retards arguing for those opinion were spics. Hell the first post that started this >>154125357 had the argument that atla is better because it's more popular. This is the kind of intelligence they posses.
>>154119278The Japanese (the fire nation) are the villains in this show. Of course they don't like it.
>>154127069No
>>154126542Retard, a lot of CCS is SoL and the fights are rarely like a shonen one's
>all the posts gets deleted>the dragon ball fags seething about eva that said he went to sleep got deleted at the same time as the posts of that family guy faggotYou can't make this shit up. Btw the Eva girls are hot and they don't look like Shinji
>>154127264Nice try
>>154127267Nice try at appreciating beauty, right.
>>154127274No
>>154119278Why watch diet anime when you've already got regular anime?I've always felt Avatar was extremely overrated.
>>154125506*CRACK*
>>154127296Because what anime means to me changed in the years since college...
>>154127586What do you mean by that? Also why post k-on?
>>154125069>it only has two showsAs opposed to what? Seven? What's the ideal amount of shows for a Japanese audience? I don't get this one.
>>154127586Anime means japanese animation
You can tell that /co/ has this really bizarre as fuck contempt for animation as a medium that's morbidly unique among all other mediums and the people who engage with them.
>>154127617>>154127640I'm saying I quit watching shonen anime because of this cutesy four-girl ensemble stuff but I'm willing to consume the American equivalent.
>>154127671The k-non movie was pretty great but I think shonen can be good as well when you step outside of the mainstream ones, Hajime no Ippo is still a banger to this day. >but I'm willing to consume the American equivalent.Which ones are there? The 00s had a lot of actionish story focused cartoons but I can't think of anything else after that
>>154125831>Star Wars the Clone Warsa series that has a external watchorder to cut out the copius filler slop arc and make sense of the timeline loses by default lmao. The others are arguable, though
>>154128019No, coomer
>>154119278Avatar is a western Cartoon. It's surface level art style and a few chibi-like scenes are not changing it. Animation style and storytelling are completelly different from what a Japanese is accustomed to. >inb4 but Westerners watch anime despite it being different tooWestern people have been introduced to anime since childhood since many ''cartoons' had been outsourced to Japan back then or other SEA-studios who copied from Japan. Not to forget, that Zoomers are constantly bombarded by anime shit on the internet. The western Comic and animation cultue does not have the cultural soft power on the world that anime has, the latter can easily influence the former while it's almost impossible vice versa. Only exceptions i can recall are older franchises from a time where the Japs still took some inspriation from the West, like Lupin or One Piece.
>>154128076A lot of westerners also watch anime because there are more options for adult animation in japan than in the west.
ATLA is middle of the road when compared to anime (considering that season 3 was a bit udnerwhelming)
>>154128076The japanese literally have most of the same cartoon networks as the west.
>>154125357>toonamifag shonensloipper thinks some nicktoon is peak animationlol
>>154129969And he's right. Anime is shit compared to avatar.
>this thread about two trannies infighting is still up
>>154127274>post fan artHypocrite troon
>>154130087The only atla art you've been posting is off model fanart while I've posted mostly on model stuff. You are such a fucking bitch.
>>154130140>look its poopdickschizo I just got here, you retard. Go back to /a/
>>154130161I was not talking about you but the rest of the people posting here, you can be used for plurals as well . Why did you call me a hypocrite you low iq retard?
>>154130046Strong words, friendo.
>>154130046Nah, there have been plenty of anime named itt that mog the shit out of atla. Sorry
>>154130046Lotgh shits on avatar
>>154130197>this massive ESL copeHoly BROWN!
>>154130281>doesn't understand english>calls others brownsLol
>I was not talking about you but the rest of the people posting here, you can be used for plurals as well . Why did you call me a hypocrite you low iq retard?
>>154130309>>calls others browns
>>154130243>boring politics million episode show is better than avatar That slow shit is only good for falling asleep
>>154119278It aired on a bad timeslot + they already have their won domestic market. >>154125357You clearly have no idea what you are talking about, characterization and plots with continuity are special in western animation but not that big of a deal in anime. I am convinced that this is a shitpost.
>>154130228The only anime as good as avatar is dbz.
>>154130404>complex anime with multi layered charactersvs>shonenshit made for children where they jump from one place to another while wasting time on boring stuffYeah Lotgh is better.
>>154130454>as goodDbz mogs the shit out of avatar
>>154130454If you are a spic maybe but in reality Ping Pong, Ashita no joe, Cowboy Bebop etc are all better. It's just the truth
>>154130479>my cultshit is better than the most beloved and successful anime of all times because me and more hipsters say so>nothing I watch is mainstream btw I swear
>>154130456If I have to dedicate a year to finish your show its not worth it
>>154130605Retard both cowboy bebop and especially ashita no joe were mainstream. Also if it's about the mainstream status do you admit that naruto, pokemon, bleyblade whatever are better than atla?
>>154130671Your loss. Also atla is 60 episode, why would I waste that time when I can watch a 10 episodes kino show?
>>154130695>is mainstream better than mainstream Not really but all those and your favorite "cult 2smart4u" gets mogged by Dragon Ball
>>154130726>Not reallyButh Pokemon and naruto are more popular than atla, so more mainstream doesn't that mean that they are better? >mogged by Dragon BallHow? Also are you talking about the original DB anime? Or DBZ?
>>154130605>popularity=qualityDemon slayer manga is better than watchmen? FUCKING BASED!
>>154130763DB in general. All of it.
>>154130806It unironically is better than that capeshit even if it's also being shit
>>154130811Daimachads and GTchads are finally in.
>>154130831Yep. Even the worst of Dragon Ball is better than that.
>>154130710My gain from being able to have waking hours during my entertainment
>>154130891And better than Atla.
>>154130899Why would I need to have walking hours and then come back to watch the same boring slop. I can just buy a sleeping pill if I need one
>>154130900Yep. Better than TURDgelion too, to the surprise of no one
>>154130928Sleeping pill called lotgh
>>154130958Nah called atla. Most boring childish slop ever. I'd rather watch anything else.
>>154130943Cool I will post DB CHADma in every Atla thread from now on to remind them of how inferior they are
>>154131022Id rather watch anything other than anime. So we're in agreement.
>>154131089And I'd rather watch anything else than atla the garbage faux anime with boring plot made for kids, fuck even naruto is better
>>154131025Based. And don't forget to post Android 18, Videl, Zangya, Towa, Maron and Chichi.
>show that makes the imperial Japanese equivalent the bad guys >Why isn't it popular in Japan, the country that never confronts their imperial pastNo idea anon.Also it's too broad for them setting wise and they clearly prefer the tolkien/dnd lite style fantasy
>>154131283Or maybe because they already have enough of their own home production of anime? Also Fire Nation is not just imperial japan, it takes a lot from multiple asian cultures. >Also it's too broad for them setting wise I don't know what you mean by that
>>154131283>the country that never confronts their imperial pastWhat do you think Romance of the Three Kingdoms is about?
>>154131025Fuck off>>154131120Kys, subhuman
>>154131119No, faggot
>>154131120Zangya is a skank.>>154131328The Chinese?
Why can’t we just ban weebshitters the moment they start to act uppity?
>>154131864Ironic.
>>154131913Doesn’t matter that Genndy is an old-school weeb, I’m still in the right.
https://vocaroo.com/1c0WP7Dg1056
>>154131864.implyingThe cartoon fags started this shitposting. I like anime and cartoons, I just don't think atla is better than everything ever, even in its own part of the industry.
>>154132007Doesn’t matter who started it, they took it to another level so they have to end it, for good
its a slightly above average western cartoon from over 20 years ago. why would they care?
>>154132199Brown pre-teen girl.
>>154132254japs churn out one of those every week
>>154131930fuck was that man?
>>154131930
>>154119278I reckon A:tLA is just too similar to Shonen anime to have much appeal in Japan. It's something they already have in abundance.Meanwhile more whacky, solely-comedy-driven cartoons with quirky, very western designs do better since that is more of a novelty to Japanese audiences.It's like how Americans like the serialized narrative anime for teens-to-adults but don't care for Japanese children's cartoons which may be episodic. It's something we already have a domestic supply of.I also wonder how the orientalism of A:tLA would feel to an Asian audience. Would it be boring or confusing?
>>154126901Yeah that is a good point.I think A:tLA is maybe less derivative of anime than is assumed from its visual elements. It still takes so much from western cartoons and just general stuff about serialized story-structure.Avatar is a western show with anime elements more than it is a western anime. Or shonen, anyway. Technically all western cartoons are western anime.
>>154133961Read>>154126942. Atla would still basically be a shounen. I don’t see it fitting other demographic.
>>154125198>Why would the japs care about atla when they already have great anime that surpass atla themselves?I'd say it's telling you have to compare one series against the entire industry of a country. But ooh, if you want to go that route pic related is objectively a better series than literally anything the Japanese have ever produced. The only thing that comes close is One Piece. But by objective metrics, it still loses out. >ATLA is great but it doesn't stand out compared to what typically gets pumped out overseas>THIS.Nah, compared to things in its same genre, intended audience, release date and themes it's overall better. The thing you forget is anime is a pretty all encompassing term, so to make any comparison you'd have to begin by first narrowing it down to things like it. You can effectively do this ad nauseam until it's meaningless. And it's not like Americans don't have access to the same anime, we do. It's just not appealing to everyone, or even most people. You could just say that the Japanese have a lot of their own animated productions, So focusing on one fandom for one animated show to the exclusion of others isn't normal or reasonable. Quality or how much it "stands out" isn't really the deciding or even quantifiable factor, it's what you like, and you can't really measure that. And there's a lot of things to like. It doesn't make it inferior, or what's drawn about superior. Afterall, this is a 20 year old foreign series to the Japanese that hasn't had new episodes since 2008. It would be pretty weird if they did have a bunch of fans of it drawing stuff for it. It's not like Artstation has a limitless dump of Samurai Champloo work. Doesn't really mean its a bad anime or we have infinite better works of media (although we do). It's just a 20 year old foreign animation.
>>154134399>Atla would still basically be a shounen.No it wouldn't be, and you not seeing it fit elsewhere is kind of the problem. It's not a 1:1. So comparing it to shounen should in reality be off the table. You need to admit there's not a comparison to be made because of a cultural difference and move on. I mean it's a category for japanese comics, which hates things we're cool with and loves things we don't. We're fine with shipping and romantic plots that end in a relationship. We will ship literal children. They will go on dates. Blood and death are srs business though. If it happens it'll usually be off screen. But it probably wont. To name just a few. You really shouldn't be trying to jam either one into the box (giggity) of the other.
>>154131283>show that makes the imperial Japanese equivalent the bad guysOk here's what I never got, why do fire benders make their buildings out of wood??
>>154130456>Yeah Lotgh is better.Disagree. I think the writer was well intentioned and had his story to tell but ultimately misunderstands how a narrative need to be constructed to be appreciated. It's fair for him to not himself appreciate that sentiment and just want to tell his story to tell his story. But it's equally fair for the reader to not really want to bother with the word salad that the books are and the anime's tried to interpret. In that respect I'd say atla has the edge. It more easily conveys what its trying to say in a way that's both entertaining and engaging to the audience without having any pretensions. It is a kids show afterall. Lotgh is pretty boring in comparison, kind of like adulting.
>>154134399if avatar was a shounen then aang would never have been allowed to have romance scenes with katara. and also have kill the firelord or something
>>154135481if avatar was a shounen then aang would have never ended up with katara because shounen like naruto bleach and dragon ball refused to let their male leads and female leads end up together. Goku never got married to bulma but he ended up with Chichi. Bulma never got married to goku and ended up Vegeta. Naruto never got married to Sakura but he ended up with Hinata. Sakura never got married to naruto but ended up with Sasuke. Ichigo never got married to rukia but ended up with Orihime. Rukia never got married to ichigo but ended up with renji. Following this method if avatar was a shounen then aang would have ended up with meng or some random female side character.
>>154135481>if avatar was a shounen then aang would never have been allowed to have romance scenes with kataraIf avatar was a shounen then Aang would still have romance scenes with katara but he just wouldn't end up with her because normally male leads in shounen are not usually allowed to be with their female leads.
>>154136292You know there's many shonens that broke this rule, right? Like Ruroni Kenshin and Fullmetal Alchemist. You have normie knowledge of shonen.
I want Karata to bend cum out my dicl till theres nothing left
>>154136292>naruto bleach and dragon ball refused to let their male leads and female leads end up together.Exceptions that prove the rule. You can't really deny that the will they/won't they is a staple of the category. That there are prominent exceptions does not mean that in general western shows, specifically those geared at kids, aren't more lax about pairings. It's another layer to the categorization of media not really fitting neatly into each others boxes due to cultural differences.
>>154136544>and Fullmetal AlchemistFullmetal Alchemist stuck to this rule pretty damn well. It got so annoying they touched on it in the movie. Brotherhood didn't care about this "rule" at all. .
>>154136292It's not a hard rule, in Shaman King Yoh married Anna, in FMA Ed married Winry, in Undead Unluck Andy and Fuuko get married too, stopped reading Fairy Fail before the end but Natsu and Lucy were heavily implied to be into each other iirc, and then there's whatever the fuck Eren and Mikasa had. Though what you described happens often enough, I guess, so it's possible Aang would end up with Meng or something.
Really annoying how ignorant weebs throw around the word "shounen". Back on topic I don't even think Avatar is as big in Europe as is in America. Other action shows on Nick like TMNT and Winx Club probably lasted longer than LoK because they were more internationally successful.
>>154136595If I had to expand on this I would say that generally a western pairing would actually focus on the relationship to a greater extent. Expanding both characters to make it feel genuine. Where anime, shounen specifially, would tend to either withdraw agency from the female or relegate the relationship to background, focusing maybe one episode to the actual confession or having it take place entirely off screen. There are notable exceptions of course, Dandadan comes to mind, but overall I think that's a safe generalization. You have to keep in mind though, "shounen" isn't really a genre. We in the west look at it as such, but it isn't at all. Any more than "MG novel" is a genre. Animorphs famously has a graphic description of an alien prince being devoured. Meanwhile I remember reading HP and never being remotely perturbed.Ultimately If I had to get right down to it, as a classification of a work of fiction it isn't particularly useful. If you really wanted to you could say atla is a shounen, but that doesn't actually mean anything.
>>154121027Deku is uncertain in his decisions sometimes but not his like, purpose. He always wanted to be a hero, he’s being a hero, he’ testing to be the best hero ever. Aang was unsure of taking on the responsibility of avatar on multiple occasions, and waffles over defeating the fire lord. Sure, he comes around to the ideas but he’s not autistically like “believe it!” or “I’m gonna be the avatar!” the whole time
>>154136927>Back on topic I don't even think Avatar is as big in Europe as is in AmericaThey had...other things.
>>154136974>Ultimately If I had to get right down to it, as a classification of a work of fiction it isn't particularly useful. If you really wanted to you could say atla is a shounen, but that doesn't actually mean anything.THISStop talking about shonen, it literally doesn't mean shit
>>154128763I wonder how things would go down in the bedroom with these two
>>154136927Well yes, it is after all a 21 year old show that hasn't had new episodes in 18 years and is from an entirely different continent. The jokes won't always land, the dubs wont always be good and it's ultimately not made for kids in Italy/France/Germany/Spain/Poland/Greece. I wouldn't expect it to be popular anywhere else other than maybe the UK, NZ, Australia and Canada.
>>154119278I keep fucking saying it but you'll still see retards on here claim that asians love the fucking shit out of Avatar when it's the fucking whitest white person show.And you know what the key issue is? It isn't that it's faux anime, it's because the Avatar kids have no respect for their elders.
>>154137195>show about asians who act like white people written by white peopleSo you're saying Avatar is The Cleveland Show, essentially?
>>154137182>it is after all a 21 year old show that hasn't had new episodes in 18 years>counts years>first episode was 2005>last was 2008goddamnit anon, 2008 was, like, last year right? Right?
>>154137195>it's because the Avatar kids have no respect for their elders.B-b-but Iroh!! TEA!!He shows Zuko how to make TEA. And that made everything ok because Zuko respect Iroh and his tea.
>>154137195>it's because the Avatar kids have no respect for their elders.Any show that has kids saving the world intrinsically implies a lack of respect for adults by assuming or outright showing the elders can't control the situation.
>>154137280Stfu>>154137298Nobody cares
>>154137306Rude
>>154137182I disagree with this argument, Ben 10 and was made for Americans and it ended up being a global hit. The first season of Winx had 0 American writers and managed to break into the American market. Kids around the world tend to share very similar interests
>>154137347Well anon, what are you disagreeing with?
>avatar the shounen>uncle iroh dies fighting ozai because he has to pass on to the next generation >Zukos redemption arc starts immediately after season one where he establishes a rivalry with aang and goes on to fight against the fire nation himself until eventually admitting to himself he can't capture the avatar >sokka gets written out entirely after season one in favor for whoever is stronger that joins up >Toph is the season two villan who when defeated joins up and teaches Aang >Azula is hardly a presence until season 3 where she's the big bad >Ozai becomes the second to last villan as the real villan the comet (which is an ancient evil) overtakes his body
>>154119278Why would they? It's Baby's First Anime.
>>154137419Babies first anime is pokemon, sailor moon, and dbz or eva
>>154137298No it doesn't. There is a tremendous difference between "the adults in charge are not capable of controlling a situation due to it being something out of their depth" and "the adults in charge are not capable of controlling a situation due to them being less competent than children".
>>154137347You're misunderstanding the argument friend. There is no claim that because something is foreign it is incapable of succeeding outside of its native land. Rather that because it is old, and has not had any episodes in almost as long a time as the show first aired, and additionally there is no guarantee that the dubs or writing actually resonated with any particular foreign audience in the same way as it did with Americans. It's not unexpected for it to either be less popular than in America or just generally unpopular. Would "surprising" be a better word? In other words it's not surprising if it is the case. Doesn't mean it is, just that if it is, I'm not surprised.
>>154137435You're splitting hairs. Being out of your depth implies a degree of incompetence at least in regard to the situation you're in, no? It always struck me as odd that in these adventure book series and cartoons the children don't act anything like children but instead act like the adults that should actually be fixing things. Then again, I suppose that's not that odd at all.
>>154119834/thread
This is now a Zucest thread
>>154137756Based
>>154137830It really is
>>154125686>it hasnt even been relevant since the 70sDisney is still very popular in Japan
>>154137926Im talking about Walt's influence on Tezuka.
>>154137756Well, get to postin'.
>>154137756NoNot pure enough
>>154131328>Romance of the Three Kingdoms>JapanIt's Chinese you retard
>>154138273 Dynasty Warriors is from Japan rtard
>>154131930It's good to know some anons haven't changed
>>154136292
Reminder that Meng was voiced by the same VA who did Toph
>>154138379
>>154138193No u
>>154138403I'm still new to Avatar.
>>154138418
>>154138415There's not much to know except that Zucest is the only good Azula ship
>>154131316How much anime is there that makes imperial japan the bad guys? Not "war is bad" but specifically imperial japan?
>>154131328>three kingdomsYou..know that's a real period of chinese history right. Like one of the most famous ones.Its literally written by a chinese person too https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romance_of_the_Three_Kingdoms
>>154138418>>154138440She’s an ugly bitch
>>154134790>'d say it's telling you have to compare one series against the entire industry of a country. But ooh, if you want to go that route pic related is objectively a better series than literally anything the Japanese have ever produced.I disagree. >Nah, compared to things in its same genre, intended audience, release date and themes it's overall better.I disagree here here as well ashita no joe was way better written. Also "release date" doesn't matter since 00s had a lo great shows for both west and east. > The thing you forget is anime is a pretty all encompassing term, so to make any comparison you'd have to begin by first narrowing it down to things like it. You can effectively do this ad nauseam until it's meaningless. My point was that stuff with great characterization, which is atla's main selling point, already exists in japan >>154134882>No it wouldn't be, So if atla was left unchanged in which magazine would it be published? >We're fine with shipping and romantic plots that end in a relationship. We will ship literal children. They will go on dates.That happens all the time in shounen manga?
>>154136292You've already been proven wrong with plenty of counter examples so I won't bother. >>154136974>You have to keep in mind though, "shounen" isn't really a genre.Fucking this
>>154137347Ben 10 became a global hit because it was the first time an original American IP tapped into the inherent appeal of Superpowers as a Tool (within the Japanese Toku scene, this is referred to as Universal Accessibility) since Fawcett's Captain Marvel. Other hero fiction almost does it, but not quite: Batman, Spider-Man, Iron Man, etc.On top of that, the Omnitrix goes one step further: the user can access all sorts of powers, but ALSO turns into any creature that the author thinks is cool, so every potential demographic of boy is covered. It's like Pokemon, there's an alien transformation that is someone's absolute favorite.
>>154134790To give my 2 cents, a lot of atla's earlier fans were anime fans that wanted something with continuity so it's not unfair to compare them with just that anime with continuity and as a result I don't think it compete with the best of anime on that front since anime has been doing those kind of stories since the 70s. I think the question was why didn't the japs carry even though it was released back then as well, not why they don't carry about it after 20 years and champloo still gets art >And it's not like Americans don't have access to the same anime, we do. It's just not appealing to everyone, or even most peopleAvatar is nowhere near close to being as popular as the most popular anime
>>154137390Do people lie this only watch 3 popular battle shonen? >If you really wanted to you could say atla is a shounen, but that doesn't actually mean anything.Shonen as in cartoon made for young teens, doesn't that fit Atla up to a T?
>>154138709Nah you are gay.
>>154135125But what exactly do you mean by word salad? Now I haven't read the books but while the anime had some contrived stuff most if was pretty east to understand. > It more easily conveys what its trying to say in a way that's both entertaining and engaging to the audienceThe themes of Logth are pretty on the nose and easy to understand and they are a lot more interesting than the ones in Atla since they aren't forced to be constrained in children show frame . Not to mention that the characters are multi layered and feel more real than atla. The dialogues in lotgh are way more entertaining than the ones in atla so I don't get the complaint with it being "boring". >engaging Are we really using THAT? SO simpler shows that are easy to appreciate by children are superior? Then Pokemon is better that atla since it drops all pretense and it's just mindless adventures, this is how stupid you sound.
>>154134882>loves things we don't.>implying westerners don't like violence and goreWtf are you talking about? >We will ship literal children. They will go on dates.GTO is a shounen manga that ships children with literal adults so I don't see how that's outside the realm of possibilities. Video Girl Ai is literally a manga about shipping and that's a shounen as well, ruroni kenshin has the characters have sex in one of the ovas, I can't think of any american children cartoons that do that.
>>154136595A lot of shonen manga are romances that are as lax as western children shows and then you have the whole kodomo genre that is even younger and shows pairs.>>154140573>Video Girl Ai is literally a manga about shipping and that's a shounen as wellI've only watched the short anime, never knew it was a whole manga
Never seen an anime as good as avatar the last Airbender
>>154125971There were the usual band of westaboos and some voice actor fans watching it, but the show got chopped up to fit timeslots and music was entirely replaced (music is big money).Then you have the animation itself which is uncanny with needlessly complicated mouth flaps and being full of flash tweens. I think this is a genetic anglo thing, it means well but hurts to watch.
>>154141197Then you haven't seen many or you are lying.
Anime could learn a thing or two from avatar like having a character like Sokka who is actually funny and helpful dispite not being a primary fighter. Also giving them solo focus episodes like the space sword.
>firecest being postedThis thread is finally good
>>154141229I've seen a lot of anime and cartoons. Anime is just not that great.
>>154141240Atla can learn from anime by actually showing blood instead of being pussy shit for toddlers
>>154141240There are plenty of anime like that are you retarded.>>154141252Which anime did you like? Lotgh is way better written than atla.
>>154141268Anime has too much blood for me to really like it
>>154141271I liked quite a few but after watching mushoku tensei I think I realized it's not really for me
>>154141294Name those that you liked. Lotgh is still better than atla sorry
>>154141301I watched logth and after like 200 episodes I realized I wasnt really enjoying it. It was rather and I kinda stopped caring
>>154141279Hamtaro will like to have a word with you.
>>154141315Lotgh doesn’t have 200 episodes so nice try larper, I will mever give you attention again you lying bitch
>>154141315Slow*
>>154141327I did watch it though. Didn't remember where I stopped
>>154141322I hate how anime has no in-between blood and gore and just nothing happening if its an action show. There has to be blood? Why cant it be like avatar?
>>154141294>mushoku tenseiThat is patient zero for bad writing practices. I'm not kidding it has more value as a milestone for culture than actual entertainment.Just give something else a chance dude.
Its childish to say that every show is a baby show if it doesnt have blood. I wouldnt consider batman beyond a baby show because theres pretty much little to no blood in it.
>>154134790>>154134882>>154135125u'r' right
>>154141363I have tried a few times. I watched chainsawman, jujutsu kaisen, dandandan, and fire force. I had fun for a while but I still found myself enjoying watching western cartoons a lot more. Namely because cartoons dont tend to try to be uncomfortable.
>>154134790(1/2)Let's see, I agree with some of what you've said, most important about popularity not being a good measure for quality but your emphasis on age is misguided when there are anime and cartoons from the 80s that have maintained their grip on the pop culture.Regarding Simpsons, it's interesting because it does excel at one thing that most anime doesn't, which is comedy but in terms of its other storytelling achievements I wouldn't exactly agree with your claim, Simpsons has good episodic writing and the dynamics between the character are mostly fun, which are 2 aspects that you can also find in well liked anime. Gosenzo-sama Banbanzai plays with relationships and family roles in a more interesting and artistic way than Simpson does, Chibi Maruko-chan has a similar sitcom-ish format and while it doesn't execute comedy as well as Simpson it's episodic plots are always enjoyable and a treat to watch and finally Urusei yatsura for reasons that I don't even need to name. You mentioned one piece, which is weird, since I would consider it a rather average anime but it gives me an idea of what you like about Simpsons, which is probably the vast cast of characters in which case, even though it has become a boring response, I will echo the others and recommend Ginga Eiyuu Densetsu, a space opera that touches on a lot of our social problems and has a cast of characters unlike anything else you will see in animation, including Simpsons. As for Avatar, it's really not that special if you have experience with enough anime. The best comparison would be Gundam, a series for children about war that doesn't pussy away from showing the consequences of that war unlike atla and has plenty of villains on par with the ones praised in Atla. While Gundam is a vast franchise the highs of it are on a whole other level compared to the highs of Atla. And then there are of course other fantasy fighting anime, YYH(up to a point) and Erin were both good.
I never liked gundam because its too bloody lol
>>154134790>>154141401(2/2)Ojamajo doremi is a toddler show and has comparable character writing, the first digimon has equally dark themes, most of the WM, first HxH, some sports anime like Ashita no Joe and Ping Pong, Hajime no Ippo etc etc. Atla is a small fish in a big pond, that doesn't take away from it's writing qualities but it makes it less special than it is in the west.
>>154141392>>154141366I tried watching atla and it’s the most boring slopfest of nothing happening, you have to be 12 iq to enjoy it seriously
>>154141343Moribito retard.
>>154141427Ojamajo Doremi is not a toddler show, it's a shojo aimed at the 7-11 market.Doremi isn't Blue's Clues.>>154141401Gundam is aimed at a older market then kids.
>>154141431You have to have 13 iq to enjoy an anime>>154141433Ok but avatar has powers n shit too and it manages to not have blood. You don't see that in anime.
>>154134790>>154141401>>154141427>WMMeant to write WMT, I seriously recommend watching Akage no Anne from it. That's what I had to say. Of course there is more to recommend starting with Leiji works like Captain Harlock and going up to Ashita no Nadja but I think you got the idea and what I meant by Atla's exclusivity being more important in the west where most cartoons are comedies. .
>>154141392>chainsawman, jujutsu kaisen, dandandan, and fire forceSon, you are watching popular things made for teenagers.Chainsaw man is a disaster adaptation of a mediocre manga that shat it's ending.JJK is mediocre but ok as an intro show, can't really blame you on this one.Dandandan is horny because again it's a magazine for teenager that publishes it, it basically had to expose it's heroines pretty hard from the start just for people to keep reading it, I honestly found most of it boring outside of the worm that was mildly interesting.Fire force is done by a guy known to get meta and fuck with it's audience, it has more value as 15 minutes of world building for other work than itself if you ask me.You got 5 tapped by popular things with pretty animation, I don't even want to be condescending to you since it's easy to fall for this shit with hype cycles and people insisting you to read 800 chapters of one piece before it gets good as sunk cost fallacy, but just curate what you watch a bit better.Do you want a dark phantasy take on something cutesy? Madoka is written by someone people nickname the butcher.Do you want a good intro to mecha? Iron blooded orphans is right there with barbatos being one of the coolest designs around.Do you want puppets? The butcher also made thunderbolt fantasy too.Do you want a silly adventure, rolling girls flip flappers and a lot of random shit exist solely to be entertaining for 12 episodes of fun things happening episode by episode.Dude just ask for recommendations, people will give them to you for free because they want more people to enjoy what they enjoyed too.But I'm getting the impression that you want to be a part of a community badly if all the things you are watching are recent adaptations and not cool shit that aired in the past 20 years.
>>154141448>n-no youLow iqer mad lol, there is literally nothing interesting happening in atal, garbage charters and storyteling. Enjoy your slop but I am out.
>>154141448>Ok but avatar has powers n shit tooMoribito has powers :) A lot of kodomo anime have fights with powers and no blood
>near 500 posts of someone from /a/ assraping this boardThis place is more dead in various ways than one.
>>154141462ReTARD, he doesn't care, this is the same guy that said >>154125639. He is not interested in reccs, he is a shitposting fag
>>154141440>Ojamajo Doremi is not a toddler showI can concede this, it's a little girls show written by people who enjoyed writing a little girl show anyone could enjoy.>>154141440>Gundam is aimed at a older market then kidsThe kits would prove otherwise, but it's also from an older time when the line wasn't that well defined, it's certainly has not been aimed to kids for a while. Mostly Teens, young adults and old farts that grew up with Gundam.
>>154125645you proved to be a low iq retard by your "everyone is the same" argument, keep being rent free about atla
>>154141484How could I know, I only entered the thread recently.Meh, whatever gave my recs hope someone enjoys rolling girls or Madoka.Perish the thought someone sees MT as an introductory anime though, that shit sucked sick back in the day and sucks dick now in spite of a stacked adaptation.
>>154141511Retarded people are the same to me. It's the truth
>>154119278Avatar is highly satanic because it promotes the false religion of Buddhism
>>154130474>Dbz mogs the shit out of avatardragon ball is overrated spic slop with no meaningful story to back up the animation, meanwhile avatar has bothyou can see how insecure dragonballfags are with the samefagging they did even here pretending it's peak fiction when it's absolute ass
>>154141515>How could I know, I only entered the thread recently.He posts in the same way in literally every anime/manga thread on /co/
>>154141462I understand your point. That i could try again to watch more anime shows. But still I think I'm just going to take a long break from them. A benefit to watching western cartoons is just a lot less stress and emotions. Only thing I kinda miss about anime is that the girls can be quite pretty. After power died for example I just really didn't care anymore about the story...
>>154141532Literally the biggest atla fan itt said that DBZ is as good as atla, doesn't matter there are other anime that are better that atla and dbiz is pretty meh I agree.
>>154141484I kinda do care. I did try to get back into anime multiple times afterall
>>154141462>>154141515ALso he is a larper that has never watched 1 anime in his life Look: >>154141315, logth doesn't have 200 episodes, >>154141535, power doesn't die in the chainsawman anime. He is a bullshiter larper
>>154141535Recc me good western cartoons to get into them
>>154141550>power doesn't die in the animeShe does in the mangaI have proof I read the manga
>>154141557Why is your hand brown? LMAO. Post the proof. post the chainsawman manga part 1. that's from part 2 you retarde dlarper
>>154141553The Great Piggy Bank Robbery.Duck Amuck.
>>154141553Duckman is my favorite show rn it's so funny
>>154141563Because I am brown?
>>154141568I tried it but it was boring mean spirited slop. Recc me something better.
>>154141575>duckman mean spirited I just watched an episode where he got his son out of a contract he didn't like and it was wholesome
>>154141572>I am brownThen no wonder you couldn't understand Lotgh, browns are not necessarily smart. I can almost believe you but just to be sure post one image with you opening chainsawman book with a time stamp.
>the guy seething about anime was brownYou can’t make this shit up
>>154141588It still looks like garbage, the characters are ugly and the dialogue is boring. Recc me something better
>>154141589So I don't have to watch lotgh because it's for white people? Saves me 200 episodes
>>154141608Yes, watch afro samurai so you can see your kind be useful for once in their life. Now post the timestamp. Come on big boy, post it.
>>154141603>the characters are uglyTry watching smiling friends then
>>154141619>your kind No anime teaches you to not be racist? You weebs are wierd
>>154141632Your kind as in your friends. Now please post the timestamp.
>>154141647I dont like racists sorry
>>154141652I am not racist, I like people of all colors, just ask my gf. Now please post that timestamp or you are a larper.
>>154141624smiling friends whole thing is "ugly" designsbut i'm nta and not retarded enough to deflect all stylized cartoons as "le ugly" to detract from themyou can use this same argument with every bargain bin bug eyed anime character
>>154141666No no. Go ahead and keep anime a white hobby. I'll stick to my cartoons.
>>154141677>keep anime a white hobby.Nta but anime is loved by whites, blacks, and browns
>>154141624Smiling friends looks like garbage>>154141675Sorry that i don’t like slop made for retarded children
>>154141677Cool, I am just asking you to post a hand
>>154141675Most wester adult cartoons are boring sitcoms compared to how vast and diverse adult anime are . You'll never get Texhnolyze in the west.
>>154141690>slop made for retarded childrenbut enough about tranime
>>154141701CHADnime mogs your shitty troon slop. GO back to digital circus. Cartroons are so retarded man
>>154141697>Doesn't attack the post's point at allKek, also there's tons of adult cartoons along with anime. Stop trying to draw disingenuous lines.
>>154141713>Kek, also there's tons of adult cartoons along with anime.And none of them can compare with the greats of anime, retard. Name cartoons on par with Logth and Texhnolyze. Also funny how you talk about ignoring the point , when 99% of adult western cartoons are boring sitcoms(a lot of them look the same). You haven't addressed that retard.
>>154141707>CHADnime mogs your shitty troon slop. GO back to digital circus. Cartroons are so retarded manyou're on our board /co/, insecure tranime lover, go back to /a/ so we can discuss more chadtoons without your kind
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>>154141713> there's tons of adult cartoons along with anime. not really
>>154141725>you're on our board /co/Yeah I came here because I tried watching cartroons but they are all retarded slop for trannies, can i not discuss that?
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>>154141724>And none of them can compare with the greats of anime, retard. Name cartoons on par with Logth and Texhnolyze. Also funny how you talk about ignoring the point , when 99% of adult western cartoons are boring sitcoms(a lot of them look the same). You haven't addressed that retard.You dodged the post's point again and moved goalposts disingenuously out of the adult topic now. Most anime looks the same with mostly the same face types.
>>154141732retard>>154141737rent free retard>they are all retarded slop for tranniesenough about tranime >>154141725
>>154141724Metalocalypse and venture brothers
>>154141743>You dodged the post's point again and moved goalposts disingenuously out of the adult topic now.Yes I am talking about adult cartoons. Tell me why 99% of them are sitcoms? Why can't they make interesting stuff? >Most anime looks the same with mostly the same face types.So do most cartoon + 99.9999% of them are samey comedies. Now answer my question why can't adult western animation compete with adult anime?
>>154141739Where os the timestamp?
>>154141748>meanwhile digital troonslop, the most popular cartoon on /co/ is made by a trannyLmao, nice projection.
>>154141759Because it's not even a competition. Western animation already won with king of the hill.
>>154141759>Yes I am talking about adult cartoons. Tell me why 99% of them are sitcoms? Why can't they make interesting stuff?Why do 99% of anime follow the same tropes over and over. Notice how your entire market is filled with isekai slop now. >So do most cartoon + 99.9999% of them are samey comedies. Now answer my question why can't adult western animation compete with adult anime?Same exact thing for anime. You're just a delusional weeb.
>>154141751Metalocalypse doesn't even belong in the discussion imo. Venture bros was good but not on par with what I've named but it's a step in the right direction. One of my favorite western cartoons.
>/a/tourists still seethe about chad /co/ to this dayfeels good
>>154141770Not really koth si cool but it's still nowhere near close and it has a lot of sitcom tropes in it. >>154141773>Why do 99% of anime follow the same tropes over and over. Notice how your entire market is filled with isekai slop now.Why are you trying to change the subject? I was talking about adult anime. Also there is less isekai than there are braindead children comedies in western cartoons. >Same exact thing for anime. You're just a delusional weeb.You are somewhat right, both industries have a lot of similar looking stuff.
>>154141769>projectionenough about you and your /co/ seethe, and you're also showing your zoomer tendancies if you think that's the most popular cartoon
>>154141781>gets destroyed>y-you are seething Lol
It's fucking 5 am I'm not getting out of bed for a dumb time stamp
>>154141791It’s the fastets moving thread on the bord low iq retard meanwhile no one discusses pic related nowadays. Your board loves troon slop.
>>154141793>seething /a/ tourist still paying /co/ rentLol
>>154141799That's a nice excuse but it would be extremely easy to do it. Also aren't you contradicting yourself? You said that you stopped reading CSM but you still have all of those CSM part 2 images and volumes? Why is that? power dies a long time before that/
>>154141778Aqua teen hunger force is probably a bit better than lotgh and technolyze.Idk i haven't seen technolyze and all I remember is logth was a dude getting hit with a space axe these days.
>>154141808???I came here to get cartoon reccs and i got slop so i crticized it. Am i not allowed to do that? is this board just a slop eating fest
>>154141817>Aqua teen hunger forceIt's the same shit, another comedy. I've watched it and I wasn't impressed. That's my problem with western animation it's mostly boring comedies . It wasn't better than what I've named.
>>154141810I still did try to keep reading past powers death. But I got to this volume and I think I just wasnt having fun anymore. It was getting depressing...
>>154141818learn to spell /a/troonand calling everything "le ugly" isn't a criticism
>>154141833Just rise up and grab your volume from your shelf and post a screenshot. I'll fully believe you if you did that.
>>154141841>not even reading my posti've said that it's both ugly and that the writing was garbage, i can put up with one not with both
>>154141842I'm not getting out of bed. How about you get out of bed.
>>154141857Then I'll have to call it out as larp, sorry.
>>154141866Fuck you. Technoloze is probably depressing anyway so I don't wanna watch it.
>>154141849>i've said that it's both ugly and that the writing was garbageyou said you didn't like some because it was "mean spirited", your fee fees are subjective, not a criticism
>>154141877Don't watch anything. Idc, you are still a larper.
>>154141884I've said that it was also boring. All of this thread is trannies crying because "anime is mean-spirited since it shows blood" so I was curious if cartoons are different but apparently they are even worse.
>>154141895And you're gay
>>154141904Look up which race has the most fags.
>>154141911Weeb race
>>154141800>something that just had a finale movie is fast on a boardso, that gender anime also had constant threads about it while it was airing, and its main character was a tranny, meanwhile there's only 1 side tranny character in the digital show
>>154141943The threads have been going on for a long ass time you disingenuous retard and they haven't stopped. >so, that gender anime also had constant threadsNever paid attention but I don't remember any of it being popular, does the tranny in digital circus get a tranny surgery?
>>154141936>avoiding the truthBro, it's the black race. It's sad but true. Btw you can convince me you are not a larpoid by actually talking about the plot and characters, favorite/least favorite moments , the ending of part 1 etc.
>>154141960You made it about speed disingenuous faggot, when a episode isn't around airing time those threads are extremely slow and only shippers keep it alive. They'll get even slower now that there's no content on the horizon with a handful of those posters thinking it will eventually die in the coming months or be those once in a while things. The Onimai tranny anime was spammed a lot when it was airing. People still make threads about it.> does the tranny in digital circus get a tranny surgery?It's not confirmed a tranny, (unlike the anime tranny literally having conjoined gender symbols around xer imagery) but is underneath a lot of allegory. Most you'll get is removable puzzle piece parts but nothing to do with actual gender or genitalia.
>>154142028>ime those threads are extremely slow and only shippers keep it alive. TAnd they are still the fastest moving thread you retard, even when they are slow. Because /co/ is a dead board. > The Onimai tranny anime was spammed a lot when it was airing.I've never seen it on 4stats at the top of the board. >unlike the anime tranny literally having conjoined gender symbols around xer imageryReading from the description it's as tranny as that samurai jack episode since it's potion that transforms people. >Most you'll get is removable puzzle piece parts but nothing to do with actual gender or genitalia.Ok I don't care about any of that slop, I dropped in episode 1 because it was garbage for toddlers.
>>154141991This isn't /a/.
>>154142095SO you are larping, good to know.
>>154142099This is /co/We talk about cartoons here not anime anyway.
>>154142053>And they are still the fastest moving thread you retard, even when they are slow. Because /co/ is a dead board.No it isn't several general threads outspeed it when it's out of content hours.>I've never seen it on 4stats at the top of the board. You JUST said you didn't pay attention to it, liar.>Reading from the description it's as tranny as that samurai jack episode since it's potion that transforms people. Another lie or cope. The thing you're comparing it too isn't a genderswap and the tranny anime character had literal body mental illness and needed those hrt like meds.>Ok I don't care about any of that slop, I dropped in episode 1 because it was garbage for toddlers.Cartoons still mog >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all anime slop btw./co/ also > /a/
