Let us read every TMNT comic ever made. This is going to be a long one. This is the reading order I am using.https://eliasrwrites.ghost.io/tag/so-you-want-to-read-tmnt/Previous thread >>154103674
>>154119969Oh great, Jawas.
>>154119619Damn Raph got himself a harem. Even a loli.
>>154120043reads like a white ninja special
>>154120154Literally a big bird.
>>154120207>campbellI should've noticed the by the cover on the OP but it was really obvious this time.
>>154120330Raph always bringing up Leo is pretty cute.
>>154120250Goth bitches are Campbell's catnip
End.As a side note, I am storytiming Paleo by Jim Lawson. It is about dinosaurs and is fantastic.First half >>154106550Second half >>154122253
It won't let me post more than five replies per post so I apologize for how this will be.THREAD 20>>153968521Eastman by himself sucked so bad. That miniseries with Casey and Raph was something that should never have happened.>>153968726Huh? She was raised by five ninjas and a street brawler. What did you expect her to do, be a teacher?>>153968790>>153968835>>153968953Did you not read volume one? We already knew there were heroes. This is just continuing that story.
>>153968983I didn't, actually. Eastman seemed like the crazy one having Casey and Raph get involved with a gang mellowdrama and using guns.>>153970057>>153974343It is a time skip, but it is one that feels organic given how long ago the last volume was.>>153973733This was followed by a call back to issue #1 of the original series. It felt like Laird was saying, "we're doing something new, but the TMNT you loved is finally back." Like hugging a cousin you haven't seen since they were a teenager now as an adult.>>153973818It makes sense. They want to show that they are benevolent. I still don't trust them, however.
>>153973790It's pretty cool, actually. Even though I didn't grow up with them, I feel like I've aged with them.>>153973995Utrom are not to be trusted, and we need a cool fight scene.>>153974159Not in the slightest, unless you loved the crap Eastman was pooping out.>>153974563I think it's cool. It makes the city feel more lived in and has me wondering what other secrets it hides.>>153975065I will say, as much as I hate Eastman on his own, it does feel lacking in the grit department now. I'm wondering how I'd feel about it had Image did not completely crapped the bed.
THREAD 21>>153987376Good catch.>>153989503>>153989894>>153991354See, this is what I mean by it feeling like you all are reading a completely different series from me. I got to this page >>153986495 and was so excited I said out loud, "This is so cool." This whole issue was great.
>>153989954I think Splinter should have died at the end of volume one, frankly. I rewatched the first film recently, and it kept hinting at him dying, and they never did it. I5 wasn't that Laird wasn't doing anything with him, either. Splinter was in his old man phase, retired and living on a farm. Having said that...>>153990190Stockman totally deserved it.>>153990551>>153990798I'm kind of confused about the purpose of Jay to begin with. It felt like there was build-up here, but then he just found out. Only Shadow isn't there, and then Splinter is killed off. I'm going to wait to see where things go, but it is confusing nonetheless.>>153990564What?
>>153991937Based dorks.>>153992037If Raph ends up dying like four times like Donnie did, then you can complain. Until then, no, this isn't stupid.>>153992276The inclusions of Savage Dragon characters was easily one of the worst parts of the series and I hated that bitch. The pacing was terrible, too. Nothing had time to develop and breathe.>>153994423Exactly, it is fun and entertaining.>>153995666I am dreading Campbell's run.
THREAD 22>>154005087It is very good, yeah.>>154005573Regenta is so much better than Horridus. It's not even funny.>>154006088It's cool, yeah. Even better is that they're all good.>>154009861I was wondering about that, but at the same time, everyone seems to be armed and can handle their own.>>154010406Having them be separate is cool, especially since, unlike Image, what is happening to them is actually interesting and not just edge slop or Savage Dragon crap. I really don't need them to all come together because this volume is about the Turtles being able to live in the outside world and independently.
THREAD 23>>154018332This whole arc is what Horridus should have been instead of what felt like a Mikey dating a child. I'm finding a lot of what Laird is doing in this is similar to Image, but done correctly.>>154019509What the heck? This issue was good, and we even got an Evil Dead reference.>>154022009I'm realizing that you all just hate fun.>>154022222There's been plenty of excitement and action. It's just not grim and edgy.>>154022309I feel like /co/ isreally against TMNT being anything more than Eastman's vision of a gritty and grounded action movie. There's a place for that, but Laird isn't writing it, and you all are seething for it.
>>154031874Nah. Raph got to have an arc, and we didn't get edgy action for the sake of edgy action. The fight with Leatherhead was cool.THREAD 24>>154034323This was hands down one of the best issues of TMNT ever.>>154035032>>154035200>>154047604I'm really not seeing the issue here. It was a well told story that used existing lore, explained a long hanging plot thread, added to the character, and gave April an origin. The way you all were anti-hyping this issue up made it sound like it was some Trouble level disaster, but I found it to be incredibly moving and well made. This is one of the best and most craziest developments I've read in a comic in my life. The run has peaked. I have no idea how Laird is going to top this. Granted, I thought the same thing with the Leonardo micro-series issue and it got topped twice. This brought TMNT into my top five favorite comics of all time.That's all I've gotten to so far, but hopefully that will drive some discussion to keep the threads alive
Thanks OP. Be sure to know I am reading this thread when I'm free from work and other duties. I wonder of all Tales of TMNT are canon?
Karai's portrayal in Vol. 4 is so strange to me. She once again refers to the turtles as her old enemies, but they've really only ever been allies. I guess something interesting could have happened in the lost year between Vol. 3 and Vol. 4, but really the main thing we know is that Donatello helped construct her combat simulator. Seems awfully neighborly for an "enemy".Anyway, between inviting Shadow into the Foot and eventually stealing Casey's seed without his consent, Karai was up to some crazy shit in Vol. 4
>>154123648>Regenta is so much better than Horridus. It's not even funny.I am wishing you head cancer
>>154120250Oh right, I think I followed them on DeviantArt back when this was releasing. I knew I remembered the first cover.
>>154120207>>154120211Gitwm
>>154124643You wanting to fuck the character doesn't make her good.
>>154121056Oh hey, I remember Truth, Justin. And I used to read PVP regularly.
>>154119912Ross Campbell
>>154120711This story kinda sucks. It feels like Raphael's in a crossover into somebody else's unrelated comic.>Also starring our special guest, Raphael!>you may remember him from TMNT!
>>154125301So right in line with Bodycount.
I can't believe there's a genuine v4fag.
>>154122189What.
>>154122585This one was great. Makes me wonder how long humanoid turtles live, though
>>154122638Usagi poster!
>>154125411Do you think waving at Bodycount somehow makes Laird's writing good? Hell, Eastman at least showed a familiarity with basic dramatic structure in that shitshow. Bodycount is proof he needs Laird around to stop him from doing nonstop edgy action movie shit, just like v4 proves Laird needs Eastman to keep him from huffing his own sci-fi farts.
>>154126166And he's the kind of sperg who has to reply to everyone who said anything for the past week and a half, all in one go, just to Um Akshyually them for not liking what he likes! (And shitting on other anon's waifus is like the turd-flavored icing on the cake.)
>>154126453Horridus is a bad character, tbf. You couldn't pull me out, however.
>>154126672Disagree, I think she's original and amusing. Underutilized, and barely used at all (and poorly at that) in the Image TMNT thing, but not a bad character.
>>154126705I'm purely basing it on TMNT. I've never read Savage Dragon.
>>154120520>Raph's dream harem of undead werewolf girl, shadow and oppai loli
>>154126870Yeah, on that basis I'd agree. But that's not even the point anyway, nobody was shitting on v4fag's waifu Regenta, but he jumped out firing both barrels, shitting on other anons' waifu.That's just tacky IMO. All anons' waifus are wonderful.
>>154122189FEUDAL NEO-JAPAAAAAAAAN!!!!
>>154122638Usagi jumpscare!
>>154126453You all have been shitting on what I like non-stop.>>154126705>>154126870I haven't read Savage Dragon either.>>154126891>he thinks i partake in waifufaggotryI'm not attracted to drawings, anon.
>>154122189>>154126310I think it would be make more sense if this is 2003 Karai. I just don't understand why some writers and even Laird forgotten that Mirage Karai and Mirage Turtles were more like allies with shared interests.
>>154127452>You all have been shitting on what I like non-stop.He has a point.
>>154128110I genuinely can't put into words how much the Image era pissed me off and how hooked I am into volume 4. I get upset when a Tales story comes up now because I just want more of Laird's wild ride.
>>154121884>Raphael with an eye-patchUh oh, don't tell the guy who hated Image and loves this run
>>154129006NTA, but you clearly didn't bother reading his posts.
>>154122690>Paleo by Jim Lawsonthat's you!? you have amazing tastes
>>154127221I don't think Sakai has ever sunk to such depths of senseless violence.
>>154122378Leo x Radical was not on my bingo list.
>>154122454>eyepatch Raphael againLaird anon on suicide watch
>>154122690I was wondering about Paleo, awesome Turtle anon!
>>154129573Would it be more or less senseless to send hundreds of ninja to their deaths to get your grandkid out of daycare than it is to get countless loyal retainers to die for ice, tatami mats or a LITERAL FUCKING ROCK?
>>154123600You reminded me of the armored car with the corpses. Funny how that went ABSOLUTELY NOWHERE
>>154123640>I hated that bitch>>154123648>Regenta is so much better than Horridus. It's not even funny.
>>154123663>arguing with quints of truth
>>154123671>It was a well told story that used existing loreVery arguable. Like I said, it may have been a cute horror short story unrelated to the TMNT. It has a King in Yellow feel, but doesn't do anything for the turtles except add nonsense and cockroach sex.>explained a long hanging plot threadWhat plot thread? Kirby's crystal? It didn't explain anything about it. It's just as unknown as it was before. April's infertility? Wasn't an issue until recently and honestly "the nanobots did it" would have been a better explanation.>added to the character, and gave April an originPointless, she already had both. "Baxter Stockmans ex-employee" is plenty origin.>it sound like it was some Trouble level disasterNot the same level, but still a disaster. Pretty much a thinly-veiled reason to write April out of the story. Again, nanobot induced infertility could have achieved the same goal.Laird should have been slapped upside down the head for this one. Seriously, how can one decry Image era as dumb, edgy and cringe and then praise magic drawing April?
>>154129664Yes, it out-bullshitos even THE FUCKING ROCKThat one at least had the "saving face" excuse. Sending your underlings to death for fun sites while endangering your own great-grandaughter is just pointless.
>>154129691What do you mean it went nowhere? They drove it home.>>154129776One is a well written relationship, the other is not. I don't read Savage Dragon, anon.>>154129872>cockroach sexYou all hyped this up like the entire story was about that only for it to be one line.>april's infertility Yes. That took twenty-two issues to be revealed.>pointlessCompletely disagree.
>>154119619Raphael and his many bitches.
>>154127452It's entirely possible for you to like something and the criticism of that thing to be valid at the same time. And it's okay. Also, shitting on other things does not invalidate the criticism either. Most of what you wrote in defense of v4 was tu quoque at best. You can rail against Image all you like (and most of the folks criticizing v4 have also called it stupid and shitty) and it can be true, and yet that still doesn't make v4 any better.Like, how do you defend awful writing decisions like resolving a potentially exciting and interesting plot setup like "Oh no, Raphael's turned into a berserk monster! What are the turtles going to do to save their brother?" with a nothingburger resolution of "Oh, nevermind, he's okay now" ?
>>154130164>They drove it home.And promptly forgot about it. They didn't turn it into a turtle van, there was no follow-up to the heist story, the dead robbers didn't haunt their lair. They don't even drive it around. The van just stopped being a thing.
>>154130164Regenta isn't any better written than Horridus. Arguably it's worse, because v4 Mikey is in his 30s and really should have known better. With Horridus they're both teenagers and act appropriately. And the relationship is less abrupt, they actually go on several dates instead of a swim and a fuck. Not to mention in Image th3 chaperones are actually doing their work instead of ceasing to exist for a few issues so the plot can happen.
>>154127452>I'm not attracted to drawings, anon.Yet you went out of your way to shit on Horridus to defend Regenta against criticism that, as far as I can see, nobody in the storytime ever actually made before >>154132421 posted just now, which just makes you look really hypersensitive about her character. So I'm not sure I buy it.
>>154131646If Laird wrote the Bat!Splinter storyline, Splinter would fly off, eat a cow, meditate for an hour and come back in rat form within two issues, without any of the turtles being involved.
>>154133565Worse, he'd come back like "Hey, I'm a bat now, so I can fly! Isn't that cool? I bet we could have some interesting adventures around that! But we won't."
>>154119619Yech
Bump for turtles
OP here. My internet was down from a storm. I'll make a thread here shortly.
>>154131646>>154133565He wasn't just okay. He had a massive fight and returned home where he had hallucinations of Splinter. That is why he calmed down. If you don't like it, that's one thing, but to say nothing happened is completely false.>>154132135Why do we need to see them use it every single time? If they've gone somewhere, we know they've used it. Do you complain every time Spider-Man just arrives somewhere else that we didn't see him swing there?>>154132421You have to be 18 or older to post here. Or worse, you've never experienced a real love because Regenta was written like an actual relationship.>>154132641Because Horridus is a poorly written character that behaves like a child. I complained about the writing, anon.
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>>154137459>Great writing: Take Chekov's Gun down off the wall, dismantle it, throw the parts in the trash, and write The End
>>154137459>behaves like a childShe's 16 and sheltered/abused
>>154138910NTA, but where in volume 3 is that stated?
>>154139499It wasn't. Savage Dragon readers are seething because I'm upset that this shitty TMNT run didn't inform the readers on the lore they were using.
>>154137459>He had a massive fight and returned home where he had hallucinations of SplinterHe injured Raptarr, who conveniently recovered off-screen before he was needed again, and fought with Leatherhead, who hasn't appeared in vol4 before or since. Like the turtles aknowledge that Leatherhead was probably badly beaten up, but no thought is spent on actually checking up on him. So what was the point of that aside from key changle?>Do you complain every time Spider-Man just arrives somewhere else that we didn't see him swing there?Confirmed for never having read a Spider-Man comic. He's very often shown either arriving or leaving a scene by swinging, people watching him swing or him having an internal monologue while swinging. And there's literally just one page of him making the web-shooters. How much time is spent on setting up the armored van in TMNT? And yet we're shown them either walking, using the sewers, rooftop jumping, getting lifts by Utrom or even taking a fucking bus rather than do anything with the armored van. For all we know it just broke down again and was towed away.>You have to be 18 or older to post here.Right back at ya, I was an adult when v4 was coming out. You sound like someone who liked modern Star Wars. Because a lot of what you write sounds like "why do people care who Snoke was, he's dead!">Because Horridus is a poorly written character that behaves like a child. I complained about the writing, anon.I'd say she's written adequately, you just don't like that she's from Savage Dragon. Which is fair, the Image era shouldn't have shoved the turtles into the Savage Dragon universe, previous crossovers could have been treated as non-canon. But at the same time Renet and Savanti Romero were introduced in a crossover with Cerebus and the two became important TMNT characters. Your favourite story couldn't have happened without the Cerebus crossover, so I'd ease my sphincter on crossovers if I were you.
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>>154140570>So what was the point of that aside from key changle?It was fun. You do remember fun, yes?>He's very often shown either arriving or leaving a scene by swinging, people watching him swing or him having an internal monologue while swinging.I've read every Spider-Man comic ever made, which is why I know that he is often shown, but not always shown. I can only assume in those cases that you complain?>You sound like someone who liked modern Star Wars.Only The Last Jedi. >abandons r2-d2>either never looked for or gave up trying to find his father's lightsaber>ran away while the galaxy was taken over>hides while his nephew turned evilI don't envy Rian for needing to fix Luke after JJ came in trying to destroy everything, but he managed to make him the god tier Jedi we always imagined him to be while moving Rey and Ben into a much better position. Of course, JJ just had to come back to destroy Star Wars once and for all.>horridusAgain, I've never read Savage Dragon. I had no idea she was supposed to be developmentally disabled. A lot of the interactions make more sense now, but that's never mentioned in the comic. My issue is not crossovers, and I have no idea why you think that. My issue is poor writing. If you're introducing characters from another franchise, you have to explain them, justify why they are there, and use them. She is there to act like a child and be Mikey's cocksleeve. It's gross.
>>154140479You sound more upset than them
>>154141752I probably was when I was reading v3, but v4 has been great, and I'm happy.
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>>154141466>Only The Last Jedi.
>>154142025Let me guess, you loved The Force Awakens.
>>154142233Hated it since the day I saw it.But it explains how you don't understand basic plot structure and like random things because they're "fun" even tough they either don't add to the plot or directly harm it.
>>154142249>you like a film therefore you can't understand that there are things wrong with it and see it as a perfect movieWhat lol
>>154142315I mean, you seem to not aknowledge any plot issues with v4 or dismiss them with head-cannon (like the van*), your main issue with v3 is "it's cringe/I don't read Savage Dragon" and main defense for v4 is "it's fun/it's new lore".And then you shit on TFA (which was ass, but at least had some sort of a plot going on, even if it was lifted almost wholesale from The New Hope) and you claim that Rhian "Subvert Your Expectations" Johnson was the one who had to *fix* Star Wars. The guy too busy being "clever" to refine a first draft of the script into something actually coherent.I'm sorry man, but clearly you just want aliens and monsters waved in front of you and you're upset if they're, I don't know, too edgy or unfamiliar or something. You don't actually care for the story.You'd be better off reading D&D Monster Manuals than comics.*About the van, funny how in the Image run the turtles had a flying car, it was explained to be a Triceraton vehicle, it was used constantly, including the remote control *and* actually drew the Triceratons to Earth. Even the turtles flying and parking it a bit too carelessly led to their lair being discovered. Sorry, but "they spent a lot of time fixing a car, drove it home and we have to *assume* they're using it later" is just bad writing and cope.
>>154142441I know v4 has problems, they just don't bother me, anon. Yes, plots go in and out of the book, there is a lot of fan service, April didn't need a backstory but got one, a lot of similar stuff in v3 happen in v4, and Laird himself admitted he was burned out. I'm having too much fun to care. Which was the same in v1. I didn't love every issue, but they were still fun. We had a whole issue that was nothing but a chase scene, but it was still well drawn and fun to follow. v3 was a complete slog with characters I didn't know and the writer didn't care enough to flesh out, the changes made to the Turtles seemed to just be there for sufferporn, and everyone felt out of character. It wasn't fun to read. That's the difference.The fact that you all are crying because I'm saying I didn't like it, while you all constantly crap on v4 is pathetic. Lord forbid someone has a different opinion than you. Especially since a lot of your complaints apply to v3 or are so out there like whining about a single line mentioning cockroach sex.>thinking tfa didn't completely destroy star wars and that it was rian that broke itYou claim that I don't understand storytelling but think this.
>>154119619bump for interest
>>154142694>a lot of similar stuff in v3 happen in v4You;re starting to get it>or are so out there like whining about a single line mentioning cockroach sexAaand you lost it.V3 and v4 are equally stupid BUT v3 is slightly less frustrating, because the story structure is better. How many times do you need that repeated?Would you like v3 more if instead of the shark guy it was Leatherhead, the cyborgs were Baxter Stockman's creation and Horridus was a Styracodon?Fuck, you're going to make me defend Cyborg Donatello: as opposed to vampire Raph it actually means something and isn't resolved with a single conversation with ghost Splinter. You may say it's misery porn, but it's a lot more compelling than the characters just going "I guess Raphael is a vampire dinosaur now". Or the almost total lack of concern over Mke being missing.You say things like Leatherhead having one appearance is "fun" or "fanservice", but I have a better word for it: FRUSTRATING. Because I want to see Leatherhead have a role in the story. I like Leatherhead. I hate to see him treated worse than Chewbacca was in TLJ (glorified chaffuer). Leatherhead wanted to build a transmat to live with the Utroms on their planet, now the Utrom have built their own transmat right next to New York and Leatherhead isn't there? Bullshit.It's nice that you like it, but don't pretend like what people are complaining about is nitpicking or "applies to v3 as well". V3 is at least better executed.
>>154143869Why?
>>154137783Okay
