Charlie Morningstar Edition Previous thread >>154114179
Is Charlie the Jesus of Hell?
>>154120811Probably not. She's kinda lame and hasn't done anything interesting. At least Jesus went full whip master on those evil merchants. Plus he was some carpenter and not a rich kid.
>>154120645We're not even makin a theory here. >>154120811Ya mean the anti christ?
My Adam/Lute/Guitarspear folder is nearly at 4500 images now, goddamn
>>154120863Listen man you have to chill this time around. Last time you really caused a ruckus.
>>154120889What?
>>154120889Post em.
>>154120946You know he won't, right?
>>154120863Matpat is a Christian
>>154120958That will break the thread. Do it.
>>154120972A schizophrenic Christian. So, not even a correct one or going by lore accurate beliefs, just how he interprets it
>>154120972I don't know. He feels more schizophrenic rather than Christian. Doesn't really get his facts right so he might not be.
>>154120946Please explain how and i will try to not do the same as long as it's a reasonable request of me to do.>>154120972OK, so are over 3 billion people across the globe.
>>154120811>Only being of Satan's creation >Is good and works to undo everything he's done, but he loves her all the same >God laughs.jpg The amazing shitpost inversion potential of Charlie went right over vivs head unfortunately.
>>154120958
>>154121011You couldn’t even understand the Ten Commandments or Goliath.
>>154121004>lore accurate????
>>154120969I'm hoping he's trying to be understandable. Last time he agitated MatPat and activated one of the Redditors. Don't want a repeat of that.
>>154121013They’re delusional perverts. Anything you do is poison to them.
>>154121013Just don't engage with MatPat or take the obvious Reddit bait. Keep things civil.
>>154121036Redditors?
>>154120958If I organise it sometime I may stick it in a zip in a catbox but I may not have time to do it for a while, sorry.
Wonder what Adam and Lilith's deal was.Also sinners can enter heaven but not hell's other circles?
>>154121016Lucifer and Satan are two different dudes in the show. Also originally Satan is just a title (meaning great adversary/enemy). Some versions have Lucifer ( the guys who rebelled against heaven) and Samael ( guys who tricked Adam and Eve into eating the apple) be separate dudes. Both candidates of the title of enemy.
>>154121082Call me crazy, but I don't think Adam made that deal. The moron couldn't keep the exterminations a secret and he never bragged about Lilith being in heaven, which is something you would think he'd do. I think Sera and Lute knew.If the deal was with him, I really want to know what it was. Maybe they used her to make the Exorcists? The horns kind of look like hers.
>>154121029You really can't stick to a subject can you ?
I like how nobody reacted to Niffty being an overlord. It would have been cool if she was the who owned Al's soul.
>>154121125You brought up a subject and didn’t expect commitment to it. Like a woman.
>>154121115Didn't Lute say "your deal with Adam is broken"?
>>154121039True. Honestly i underestimated how much people would want lies told to them by cartoons more than truths.I'll be honest, i am disappointed, but i admit i fault myself for expecting better.>>154121048>don't engage with MatPatI don't know how to spot him out yet but i'll do my best.>or take the obvious Reddit bait.Can i at least rebuke it?>Keep things civil.Again, i'll do my best, i simply hope others can do the same as well.Can i also at least try to help people learn more about scripture and even the origins of some of the characters as well as others that could show up in future episodes?
>>154121145Brother you are seriously being ridiculous right now. Take a breath. Relax. Only then can we start having a discussion without this passive aggressive shit.
>>154121148No, she said 'Adam is dead. Your deal is done. I'm in charge now.' I know you're most likely right that the deal was with him. I'm just being a stubborn hot head about it because the Adam we see in season 1 is a complete loudmouth doofus. I have a really hard time believing why he wouldn't brag to Lucifer about Lilith being in heaven.
>>154121155No. Nobody wants a fucking Bible thumper. Keep it within the show's canon.
>>154121170You make me laugh.
I'm pretty sure this Jake person and the matpat person are the same. Just trying to act nicer. Matpat pulled something like this months ago. But whatever. Let's just enjoy the fuckery.
>>154121187The Bible is Jesus himself
>>154121130Well, in the pilot she did appear with the other Overlords. In retrospect, I guess it was kind of obvious?
>>154121155Some people believe a MatPat tell is Adam glaze but that's not the case. If you actually analyse his patterns he focuses more on Abel ( tells are the he thinks Abel is secretly plotting something like revenge or implies he is Lucifer's son). He will mention Cain being Zestial ( the spider overlord that talk old timey) and that Eve is somehow the big evil mastermind. He won't really talk about Lute.
>>154121232If anything related to Lute being Eve comes up, he brushes it off or insists that it's simply thematic parallel. He has a weird hate boner for the fandom version of Eve. He is hell bent on Abel being some bloodthirsty revenge driven Mastermind. He really likes to bring up the fact that he looked at his hands for a millisecond after Gravity. Best to just ignore him. The funny thing is, the ideas aren't even necessarily bad, it's a different thing altogether. He should just write his own thing. I don't know why he doesn't want to do that.
>>154121187You say that as if no one who watches the show wouldn't be interested about the origins of where it came from.We're allowed to talk about the book origins of Disney films. Why should this be an exception?>>154121232I have seen a YouTube thumbnail once about that Cain theory but i quickly disreguaded it due to how dumb it was.I didn't think anyone would take it this seriously.At least it's not as bad as the "Rosie is Eve" theory i heard.
>>154121173Idk I kinda got the vibe he knew she was in heaven. Maybe not mentioning it was part of the deal? At this point it's really just a waiting game for S3 so things get explained.
>>154121232I thought he was AGAINST Abel being Lucifer's son?
>>154121296Really? What gave you the distinct impression that he did know she was in heaven? I got the opposite impression.
>>154121298He doesn't like but it's a core part of his theory so he always mentions it. One of his biggest tells. It's really weird in retrospect.
This is pure tin foil hat theory and maybe someone who's obsessed with studying Viv's mannerisms and shit can lend in sight but... She was asked specifically if Abel now inherits the deal between Lilith and Adam. She went on a tangent about how deals are made, and just avoided the question all together. That also kind of gave me the impression that the deal was not with Adam. Because in any other instance, she would have addressed that directly, but she did not mention Adam.
>>154121325It's extremely weird and very unchristian like, as I believe that goes into gnostic territory or Judaism? I don't know, some of the apocryphical texts mentions that too...
>>154121270Weird that he never bothered writing a fanfic. Seems like a more productive use of his time than coming here and getting shut down immediately. At least there he can say it his own AU or something.
>>154121270>He should just write his own thing.I once thought about doing this myself.But all it basically boiled down to was a theory i had about Adam doing the genocides to spite Lucifer for being the one who tempted Cain with wrath causing him to murder Able.But i decided not to say anything about it as i doubted anyone would care, i didn't get the chance to bring it up in a conversation naturally and iirc it would eventually get disproved by the show anyway so it'd only be an alternate backstory for Adam.
>>154121364It sounds like a decent AU. He clearly has put in much thought into it. It could easily be its own thing. But he doesn't want to do that. He's convinced this shit is canon.
If they kill off Lute too I'll drop the show to be honest
>>154121387She should be killed. Or at least be made heterosexual and homophobic. Watch the lesbian Lute truthers go insane.
>>154121270The whole hands thing doesn't make sense because Adam had the exact same hands ( probably from a body suit he wears underneath those robes). It just might be standard Male exorcist uniform.
>>154121400That would be fun to watch.
>>154121082To be fair we don’t know if Sinners can enter Heaven, would have been funny if Vox’s plan failed simply because he can’t physically get up there.
>>154121400I don't care if she's bi but she has to have her reunion with Adam
Best Mom
>>154121407No, no the hands thing. So remember when Lute catches Abel after she performed Gravity? It's a couple of milliseconds, but he looks stunned, then looks at his hands which is clearly just a gesture of 'okay I'm leaving' and then he shuts the door. Matpat is convinced he was reflecting or some shit and looking at his hands, because his hands are filled with... Blood or something and he ties it to Lute's 'Blood demands blood, gonna get my hands wet'. Some weird shit like that. Also, he insists that because Abel's golf club is shaped like a shepherd's cane, that means he had an angry fit and bent it that way on purpose... Meaning he's evil? I don't even know
>>154121431Vox's plan was really lackluster if you actually thought about it for more than 2 seconds.
>>154121442Asexual homoromantic Lute
>>154121479She was borderline humping that Adam hallucination.
>>154121493Not according to the lesbian Lute truthers. You know, because it's actually impossible for women to be attracted to men? Clearly she was groomed, raped, and brainwashed. They're retards. You can't expect much from them.
>>154121479Stop that!
>>154121508I guess.
>>154121511Asexual homoromantic TRANS Lute
>>154121542
Nahh. Lute is straight af. Viv answering that Adam and her can be "whatever" is just her not wanting to shoot herself in the foot. I'm just surprised she actually made Adam straight. She says she's not religious but maybe she's superstitious?
>>154121471It’s pretty hilarious how it hinges on the idea of the higher ranking angels being able to be hurt and killed simply based on seeing Adam die, so he thinks his Overlords and army of Sinners could win in a fight. Kind of forgetting how he also watched Adam, an archangel, body Alastor like a bitch and it took Lucifer, who as a Seraphim is on a whole other level, beat the shit out of Adam.
>>154121563I think she realised how fucking stupid it would have been if the Angels didn't make the primordial humans straight. You can introduce more sexualities later after they won't die out.
Okay, so if Charlie calls you the most powerful sinner in hell... That gives you a power boost? Is that how that works?
>>154121555He looks so young for being 40.I don't understand how he hasn't gotten a wife and kids yet.Nice trips by the way.
>>154121595I'm not sure what you're saying. Let's say she made him gay... He can still fuck and have children. Whether she wanted him to think he was straight at first, and then he realized he was gay, or if he was gay from the very beginning, but he did his duty, it works both ways.
>>154121270Fandom Eve is fine. The Eve in the vivziepop leaks makes me so angry with how the show is now. And I am too cynical to think Viv is going to change it. So I apply the “Lilith” comments to her, which is evil mastermind that has piles of twists and turns. She is the character that got the show picked up.> I don't know why he doesn't want to do that.There is a lot of complications just to make a single project. As well as me actually having my own concepts boarded up with notes and designs. Three or four franchises. No spin offs or crossovers. Have their own art styles entirely.Viv had to build up to her projects too despite her more fortunate background. So does Ross and other big creators. It takes more than ambition to get anything off the ground.
>>154121582Didn't Vivzie also say angels on a higher tier than Adam are immune to angelic steel ( this might have been a later addition to explain why Lucifer doesn't immediately get shanked like he's in prison)
>>154121595Well actually God didn't give humans sexuality, that was caused by the information given to Adam and Eve by the forbidden fruit.God created humans to be very asexual. Like Alastor.
>>154121641No? When did she say that.
>>154121542Nooooo stop
>>154121617He did have a wife
>>154121646That is so fucking off that you managed to break through my atheism and bring back out my biblical knowledge from my religious trauma. Jesus.
>>154121625>Fandom Eve is fine. The Eve in the vivziepop leaks makes me so angryI don't like leaks but at the same time i don't like Vivzie stuff either and i doubt i'll watch any more so can you explain the fandom and the Vivzie Eves please?And can you also put a spoiler on when explaining the later for anyone who doesn't want to be spoiled? Please and thanks.
>>154121683This is 4chan, not Twitter or Reddit. You come here to get leaks and spoilers uncensored. Grow a pair.
>>154121508>You know, because it's actually impossible for women to be attracted to men?This is the single worst bullshit idea being peddled among young adults today and both men and women are buying into it
>>154121621Not sure about that. Some gay dudes can't even get hard when trying to do with a woman. Even so Adam would need to have a ton of kids. Putting a gay guy in that role is stupid and cruel. It's the equivalent of forcing an albino to work the fields on a farm. Just put a guy without a skin condition that will have him getting destroyed by the sun.
>>154121700They really are, and if you dare do so, you're seeing as some tyrant or a freak. We are regressing as a species.
>>154121605I think it was probably just a Vox thing, like he tied his power to his ratings since he thinks of himself as a God of Entertainment, so having the Princess of Hell personally endorse you as strongest gave him a ratings boost and increased power.
>>154121709Stolas.
>>154121664Good for him.Are they still together.>>154121670Explain please.>>154121699How about ya grow a softer heart.
>>154121742Matpat shut up
>>154121709I was just using that. As a general example. You can apply any queer label on him.
>>154121651Could have been in one of her many interviews, Twitter comments or drawing streams. That's my issue with her. She prefers explaining stuff everywhere except the show because she allergic to show don't tell and she can't even do tell don't show.
>>154121683Okay. Eve in this show is a bitch that made a deal with barren Lilith, Eve is Charlie’s mom, in a contract that makes Lilith have to resort to being Rosie and using Alastor. She used Lilith’s identity to spark up a rebellion from the sinners to be against hell and also empowered them with her voice. Note, Rosie/Lilith given Alastor a radio, a sound-related object, to empower him. Of course with Adam, he will simp for her and whatever will allow her to be in heaven. A deal is made with her and the exterminations were established. My guess is that Eve’s strat is pulling from being the desired women. So she flips on the dime for Adam, Lucifer, and any poor soul she wants to use up and destroy. Kinda like a succibus/siren. Wouldn’t be surprise if she’s behind the Adam hallucination.
>>154121803Probably anything other than gay or ace works. It's not ideal but it won't complicate matters.
>>154121811This is Fanon Eve, previous Anon. See the schizo theories people make up about her? Yeah. They go off some alleged leaks from former employees. Even When going by the information provided by those old employees, you have to keep in mind that the information is several years old, these are employees that were in one way or another wronged by Viv, and they did not go into this level of detail. Those are pure assumptions by people who want to hate her. Canon speaking we don't have anything on Eve.
>>154121764I'm not even making a theory there.>>154121811Dude, ya should spoiler that stuff.
>>154121855Okay MatPat/Jake
>>154121811Probably not ever going to happen. Viv has taken enough heat for her treatment of her female characters. Her shitting this hard on Eve would really nukes her last remaining defenders. I don't see her making Eve random evil bitch.
>>154121850Ah makes sense.And honestly those employees are jerks for leaking stuff to spite Viv without how it disrespects everyone else who works on the show.Honestly those kind of people deserve to get fired when they prove they can't be trusted like that.
>>154121855It's not a spoiler. It's literally headcanon and speculation. Till somebody hacks spindle horse's database spoilers tags aren't necessary.
>>154121871The last time a general accused me of being someone else it got so bad that it basically killed it off.Trust me, you're actions will only get these threads killed off as well and they will only come back worse than they were before.
>>154121917Well OK then.Also i doubt there will be any hacks.
>>154121914Whatever knowledge they took with them when they got fired was probably outdated. It probably didn't help that Viv has ADHD and will change things last second if she thinks they're cooler or the original version will offend people.
>>154121914It's not even leaks though. These are claims by those supposed employees who were not even writers on the show. They were uncertain of specific information. They said 'I think Rosie is Lilith' or ' So and so is involved somehow'. Meaning they did not have the full picture anyway. But the fandoms and now they are fanon. It's poison to the fandom because that's what everyone is expecting. That's why other theories don't hold water for these people because Rosie is Lilith, the Lilith in heaven is Eve and they can see it no other way.
>>154121850I have to ask, why do you have hope Vivziepop wouldn’t cuck Adam this badly? We saw the same season 1 with Adam being canonically cucked right before he dies and the sinners act like it’s the hyped thing ever. His death speech is about his bio-children choosing the devil over him. Which said sinners proceeded to hang out with afterwards. When you are in the Adam path. Expect nothing but humiliation rituals left and right. Wouldn’t be surprise if Lute is meant to be a completely inferior and broken creation from the start just so they stomp on his balls even more.
>>154121948He's baiting. MatPat has obviously tells. He rarely confirms it's him but also never denies it. The guy you responded to just calls everyone who disagrees with him MatPat.
>>154122012You mentioning cuck fifteen times tells us everything we need to know. Reddit's that way buddy. I'm sure it more you're style.
>>154122019I mind broken that guy with Jesus. And it shows.
>>154122051It was two times.
>>154122012Okay Mat, I'll say this one more time and I'm done talking with you.I don't particularly care about Adam one way or the other. He served his narrative purpose, he's a funny frat bro. That's all there is to it. If Viv had wanted to make him more complex, that would have been dope. If she wanted to make him a depressed psychopath, that would have been dope. Him being a stereotypical frat bro, is dope. It's all fine. I'm not against any iteration. I am using the show. And guess what the show says? He's not that important. I'm not here to argue that that's what everyone should think or not think that. I don't care. The fact is, he's not important. He was literally fridged for Lute and Abel.Do I want him to get cucked multiple times? I... Don't really care. But based on what the show is saying, that's what it looks like. We have to wait until season three.
>>154122073Pretty sure that was the Redditor and not Mat. Then again we have a separate retard ( not you ) that calls everyone MatPat so things are turning into a confusing shit show.
>>154122019MatPat has traumatized me, so I'm on edge. But he did similar shit like this last time. Jake saying 'perhaps you should soften your heart' ? That shit sounds like MatPat. He went a whole rant about Lute's halo being an engagement ring, and how if you disagree, that means you have 'no love in your heart.' So yeah, pretty sure it's the same guy.
>>154122150Did Mat ever make his own separate threads?
Who cares if it's the same guy or not. Just ignore them.
>>154122073If Adam is not important then no winner is. They’re just weaklings to throw away as people that screwed up their first lives get their second one and be treated far more respectfully. As Lute sits there alone and Abel gets to see the Devil’s daughter be truly happier than him with her dad.
>>154122177What if they are hard to ignore?
Fuck it. Changing the subject. Opinions on Charlie
>>154122019>The guy you responded to just calls everyone who disagrees with him MatPat.I find that to be sad.He has my pity.
>>154122173If you go back on the archives, and I mean like way back, pretty sure he did and his handle was 'Matpat'. For all my time having been lurking on these Hazbin threads, I have not seen anybody else use handles. He also pretends to be different people. For a time, when he was spouting nonsense about the Zestial/Cain stuff, he acted extremely kind and avoided conflict altogether. It's not unheard of for him to do that.
>>154122208She’s a dyke. IDC
>>154120788>pic>"I am a goddamned Goetia, Charlie. He's not going anywhere."
>>154122208I want to fuck her next question
>>154122150>MatPat has traumatized meHow?I am legit concerned for ya now.
>>154122208An annoying bitch who's spoiled as fuck. Both her and Lucifer are intolerable. But Charlie is worse
>>154122208Nice tits.
>>154122208Her pilot version is superior, but I overall love the Ros(i)e of hell.
>>154122226Isn't she bi? She had a boyfriend at one point. Probably didn't amount to nothing but people usually portray Vaggie as the cuck when they want to have a dude banging Charlie.
>>154122208>>154122244Lust is sin.
>>154122251Don't be. I just spend way too much time here. I could just as easily ignore him. I'm going to start doing that.
>>154122270Hail Satan.
>>154122270I want to fuck my wife is that a sin
>>154122257See >>154122270
>>154122284Don't encourage him
>>154122269Doesn't dyke just mean someone who's really butch/tomboyish? Or are those terms exclusive to lesbians? I'm probably just retarded.
>>154122292Okay.
>>154122302Pretty sure it's just lesbian exclusive.
>>154122270Fornication and Adultery are sins. Lust is a desire that can easily be interchangeable to greed.
>>154122313I thought dyke specifically was offensive.
>>154122286Alastor in the boob armor
Emily is the better version of Charlie. But Charlie is Viv's yume, so we're never going to get good shit from her. The show wants us to constantly baby and feel bad for her. This shit is going to get worse in season three once her mommy comes in
>>154122328It is offensive but it's use is meant exclusively for lesbians. They tend to get pissy if you call them that.
which hazbin is the cutest and why is it sir pentious
Man, I love large asses.
>>154122355Absolutely. It's only going downhill.
>>154122355Emily is going to be tortured so badly that she will be the main villain for Charlie to try to save.
>>154122356Is it like nigga? As in, black people can call themselves that, but nobody outside can?
>>154122377Lilith should have eaten Charlie as a baby.
>>154122381That word is pretty much witchcraft
>>154122377It's been that way since after the pilot, Anon(s)
>>154122402She probably found the houves gross.
>>154122284Even saying that as a joke will provoke God's Righteous Wrath.>>154122290Yes.Wives are for loving, and i hope you married her because you love her, and not because of lust.>>154122325>Fornication and Adultery are sins.Matthew 5:27-28: 27 “You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall not commit adultery.’ But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart.“>Lust is a desire that can easily be interchangeable to greed.Same can be said for literally every other sin as greed can be a gateway to them but it doesn't change the fact that they're still different sins
>>154122409Can't wait for Charlie to be saved by her new friend in S3.
>>154122430Isn't wrath a sin?
I think by the very end of the show, Valentina will be redeemed. Or at least forgiven by Angel. I would love for Valentino to get curb stomped, but that's not going to happen.
>>154122370ew
>>154122443Ouch.
>>154122430Lust is a word about desire. It’s not different from Greed at all.
>>154122281I'm proud of ya.
>>154122443It's ok when god does it
>>154122453>Valentina will be redeemedValentino gets his dick chopped off and becomes a woman. Now "she" is exempt from all crimes and is accepted in heaven. No longer rapes Angel Dust because women can't rape.
>>154122073I think it says a lot that in trying to resurrect the character in a more acceptable state, they introduced Abel. That's ... a very specific point A and B, I don't know what it means but it's hard to ignore.
>>154122453I think revenge is supposed to be shown to be bad for Lute and Angel Dust because Eve and Valentino would be their best matching counterparts that are twisted by it.
>>154122495I don't know where people get that Abel is Adam but nicer and kinder? That's not what they're doing at all. Not only that, but we still have Adam, even if it's a hallucination or some sort of projection from Roo. He's accurate enough to his original self that it allows for Viv to write him as normal, according to her.
People genuinely have convinced themselves that Viv can make last minute changes to this show like she can with Helluva. The scripts,/story has already been written. Anything that appears spontaneous that happens to align with the fandoms views is purely coincidental. She doesn't change shit for the fandom. That much is more obvious now that Adam was confirmed as heterosexual.
>>154122443There's a difference when it's righteous, as even Jesus got angry, but He knew when to get angry and how to use that anger righteously.>>154122467All sins are about indulging in the desires of this worlds, that's why they're all classified as sins as all desires of this world go against God.It's like saying that a beer is not different from a wine due to both being alcoholic despite there being clear differences between them.
>>154122487Unironically this.And it's God with a capital "G".
Jake sucks.Ignore Jake.
>>154122590Jake and Mat suck. I don't know why people think they're separate people. Matt did this shit already.
>>154122495Abel is a false sense of security for those that lack basic survival instincts. If I was a sinner and learned that the son of the guy Charlie killed is now the head exorcist, I would try to speed run my redemption no matter how friendly he seems.
>>154122497Lute is Eve so. No.
>>154122629No Mat, Abel is not evil mastermind who wants revenge. Viv, and the show itself went out of their way to demonstrate that.
Do you guys think we'll get Seth, Cain, etc? Viv's indirectly mentioned them.
>>154122573Betz, is that you?
>>154122650Abel’s trading card alone is a reference to Gravity and exterminations. And he watched gravity from start to finish to recite the lyrics. And this is a guy who is normally detached from this surroundings most of the time. This and Emily has his peak interest.
>>154122590>>154122609See >>154121948
>>154122208Can’t wait for Viv’s crash out when everyone shits on her for being an idiot in season 3 again.
>You will never die in battle with a beautiful woman crying over your death being the final thing you see>You will never die knowing that you truly meant something to a woman and they truly cared and loved youMen just want one thing and Adam got it.
>>154122650I don’t ever think of Lute or Abel as masterminds. To me, Abel is just better at getting trust and controlling himself. But they’re all idiots, just like Adam.
>>154122686Remember how i ended up unintentionally destroyed /hyw/ due to that false accusation?Do ya want it to happen again? History is already starting to repeat itself so why not?
>>154122763The most that can be argued is that Lute is a mastermind, and I say that because her voice actor has called her that a few times. And yes, blah blah blah VA commentary is to be taken with a grain of salt blah blah blah. I get that. I'm just putting that out there.
>>154122773Let it be destroyed. Let God be killing again.
>>154122765If ya were to search my name in the archives i am sure ya will be able to find me in at least one Vivzie thread before MatPat showed up.
>>154122795You two are two peas in a pod
>>154122791Based. Bring on the tribulations already.>>154122806And yet i'm the one who called the Cain theory dumb.
>>154122791Stfu.
Gee Hazbin Hotel, why do you get to have TWO schizos in your threads?
>>154122877Because for some reason, this show which is obviously a satirical mishmash of religious lore, attracts the worst Bible thumpers who have delude themselves into believing that others want to hear their ramblings about God.
Namefaggotry desperately needs to be removed. 1% of the time it's used for its actual purpose and the other 99% of the time it's just some attention-starved faggot.
>>154122904What does that mean? Namefaggotry? What, when people use a handle here?
Rosie has huge hips. <3
>>154122929It's all puffy skirts.
People think Rosie is Lilith because she mentions something about her first husband, and they completely overlook Franklin.
>>154122780The narrative makes a lot more sense to me if Lute and Abel are around the same page and have a lot more similarities than we think. I can’t see Lute controlling the narrative because she is too unstable. But Abel pulling it up and needing Lute’s push to get over the obstacle, Emily, is better for the writing.Them cooperating together is a lot better than Lute being alone and somehow getting everything to her hands just because. We’ve seen Abel do a much better job at reading the room, down playing his own emotions around his dad (definitely took this skill from him too), and getting the praises of the angel that raised him up. It would be amazing if the guy they’ve hired to counter Lute’s desires of destruction is actually her perfect partner. At least for the pacing to be better-ish.
>>154122946I like how it looks.
>>154122929Indeed.
Surprised I haven't seen Charlie drawn wearing this as a shirt
>>154122977No Mat, Abel doesn't want revenge. That's not his character arc. The pacing is fine.
>>154123015Or this similar but more demon like
>>154122961She crossed that out after Alastor started patrolling when he’s been absent for years. He probably was Franklin.
>>154123024Well, the pacing is not the best but it IS pretty straightforward
>>154123035She crossed his name off the sign when his corpse was consumed by the other cannibals. It was pretty clear that the cannibal in the dress, stabbed with heaven weaponry, with Franklin. That's why she crossed it off.
Demons are cute.
>>154123024Please don’t tell me you would be surprise by this guy wanting revenge. He doesn’t even deny it once to Lute.
>>154122904I would be making these same posts even if i never had a name or a trip.>>154122877>>154122891But ya can't say i'm wrong, only false accusations and insults. >>154122929ew
>>154123053I thought Franklin was a guy because of the name and it was a different sinner that died.
>>154123078Part of the deception.
>>154123119You’re going to be back for season 3, aren’t you?
>>154123011Post more Rosie.
>cuter than Charlie>nicer than Charlie>immediately believes that redemption is possible, just because it’s the right thing to do>genuinely tries to help, even if her gift basket idea was foolish>rushes to try and save sinners when the cannon is firing, loses a limb saving another>first to start singing and attempting to contain the explosionEmily is just all around superior to Charlie it’s hilarious, in a better timeline she would be the MC.
>>154123196Ritual posting. My favorite.
>>154123196Indeed, she's also the silliest goofball.
>>154123196Tru, Charlie need to outgood her somehow
>>154121111Biblically, there's no connotation that the snake who tricked Eve was demonic at all. It never identifies the snake as anything but a snake.Also, the snake had legs then. Snakes slither on their bellies as punishment for deceiving Eve.Since, ya know, it's just a creation myth.
>>154123196Emily is a cute lady.
>>154123164No. More specifically i won't watch it but i will still be here from time to time.
>>154123281>
>>154123425Sexy mama.
>>154123398Well actually, biblically it's a serpent, not specifically a snake.Theorized to be a seraph, an angel with a serpent like appearance.Also God passed His Righteous Judgement on that one specifically as He said that the serpent will forever eat dust, something that does not apply to all serpents.Also it is not myth, it is history.
>>154123425>>154123448Lust.
>>154123471Imagine the Bridal carrying. >>154123505Control those lustful thoughts, Anon, lust is for trollops like the succubi - not ladies like Rosie or Mayberry.
>>154123483>historylollmaoroflmao
>>154123560I want to put my face in her ass.
>>154123560>Control those lustful thoughts, Anon, lust is for trollops like the succubi - not ladies like Rosie or Mayberry.Well then you people shouldn't say lustful things about her.>>154123562Denying it will only stray ya away from God and His Truth.
>>154123578See >>154122270
>>154123620>She's going to make Alastor watch as she engages in handholding with you.
>>154123095Actually we can say you're wrong based on what faith you're in. Your religion is not the end all be-all
>>154123745Nice...
>>154123113Who's to men say men can't wear dresses? It was really obvious that the cannibal in the dress was Franklin. Whether they were trans, a crossdresser or non-binary doesn't matter. That was very clearly Franklin.
>>154123483Lmao history
I am Franklin
>>154123788You're dead, Franklin. Rosie said you tasted really bad.
So do you guys think Lute is actually straight or a closeted bisexual.
>>154123849Straight.
>>154123849I want to fuck her
>>154123849Her arc will be her coming to terms that she was abused and groomed/manipulated by Adam into worshiping him, culminating in an awesome fight/song with hallucination Adam where she kills him and rids herself of him for good.She will then form a polycule with Charlie and Vag.
>>154123884Yeah for sure. She'll also be non-binary trans, and it turns out she has a dick.
Roo will come in and butt rape everyone
Will Charlie be cute more?
>>154123879
>>154123964Charlie is stupid. Hopefully she dies. Lucifer or Alastor or even Lilith can take over. That would be twn times more entertaining
Why the fuck does Rosie have a statue of the morningstars? Is she related to them?
>>154124053Lilith in disguise
>>154123758According to scripture, it is.>>154123786See >>154123645>Denying it will only stray ya away from God and His Truth.>>154123876See >>154122270
>>154124085
>>154124098Who's Susan?
>>154124105A cannibal old woman.
>Susan is redeemed.>Held tightly by Adam like she’s a little girl
>>154124098>
>>154124080She's not. But ok.
Awe, I was hoping that guitarspear anon was going to post however-many-thousands of fanart they had of Adam/Lute
I hope Green Day gets to voice Cain. It would be good to hear a duo with Patrick Stump
Hazbin Hotel ends up on Adam, Lute, and Abel a lot when the content is low. Why is that?
>>154124379Because they're the most interesting characters on there.
>>154124195Saved.
>>154124199>>>154124412The making of shitpost will continue until morale improves.
>>154124379Maybe it’s because people want to see a normal happy family.
>>154124470Thank you.
>>154122208SEXWITHDYKES
>>154124195>LIVER-E-ACTION
>>154124710I love you Alastor.
>>154123196Probably gonna a plot point in season 3 now that she's doing shit in Hell
>STORM'S COMING
Rosie better be giving Alastor ALL the sex.
>>154124953>I CAN SEE THE CLOUDS
>>154124935>woobies a bad guy so bad she gets kicked out from heaven
>>154125023I love how consistently awful Family Guy edits are.
i can't reply to all of the pics because of the filter but god guitarspear is so cute it's so good.
>>154125112It’s something that reshapes my own understandings of love.
>>154125128>
>>154125112I love strong fiercely loyal women in love, especially with a silly guy like Adam. Sadly most pairings like this are of the doomed nature, especially with most of them having the male side completely oblivious.
>>154125268>calling Adam a "silly guy"
>>154123849>closetedDon't pretend you get as much pussy as Lute.
I like to think Alastor and Rosie are still good friends, even after the breaking out of the deal.Mutual respect over the game.
>>154121036The redditors always turn up halfway through thread,you can tell there were here when they winged about muh marvel rivals muh generic white people,
>>154125320Adoptive mother figure for sure.
>>154125418Cougar material.
>>154125418This makes this subscribe to Lilith Rosie even more by how much Alastor fits into the Mourningstars.He’s the only character we have ever seen to be isolated into the depictions of the family back in Pilot and Season 2. And one Alastor concept writes down his desire to be family.
>>154125501Fuck Lilith Rosie. Let Rosie be her own thing.
>>154125551The only problem with Rosie being her own thing is imply her being too attached to Charlie and whoever is with her. And her changing up her voice from something that feels more like the serious Lilith to Rosie during her first encounter with Alastor. The implication she is doing a disguise in the scene Alastor bursts into her cabin.
>>154125599No, she didn't change her voice. I saw you making the same argument on Reddit. You're reaching.
>>154125112It hits so many points its unreal. It's cute, it's hot, it's funny, it's tragic, it's heartwarming, it's at that sweet spot when it comes to shipping serialized shows where it's being teased heavily and is very plot relevant but not confirmed yet so we get to watch it grow in real time. Lute as a female character powered by raw love and grief is an archetype I feel we don't get to see often. Adam has an ancient sadness to him where he's been abandoned by almost all figures in his life but Lute single handedly compensates for all of it by caring so hard that she refuses to let him go into the dark alone. You can have lighthearted workplace buddy shenanigans and the rawest violent angst and it's both in the show.I like it lol, the single most interesting ongoing developing plot in fiction to me right now
>>154123196I will never forgive her for calling sinners innocent not once but twice
>>154122255Charls is a demigod for all intents and purpose, she should be much more vain and well evil not a gumdrop
>>154120788I watched two seasons of Hazbin Hotel.Is Hazbin Hotel worth watching? I presume it too about gay protagonist
>>154125629For your sake I hope you love fanfiction, because this show is not gonna give you what you want, if Adam already being dead wasn't enough to make it obvious.
>>154125629There’s something deeply special about this Adam that most Hazbin content creators will never understand.
Why do people talk as if Adam is alive? That motherfucker is dead.
>>154125704He is alive because I refuse to accept his death.
It taken Jesus three days to come back. Adam will take three seasons.
I had an idea for my own AU where Hell is too milquetoast and boring for Charlie's taste and she specifically wants everything to be much worse so she runs a bootcamp/consultation firm for wannabe criminals and up and coming villains.
Adam is meh but I would accept his return if they pull a "villain from previous seasons returns to fight the big bad villain that even the heroes can't take alone". My favorite trope.
Will we get another relevant exorcist girl?
>>154125751Maybe his guitar will disrupt Lilith’s power
>>154125692I've followed shows that disappointed me before so if it doesn't turn out satisfying I'll make do lol.>>154125704Adam continues to haunt the narrative almost literally in ways I don't think anyone was expecting before Season 2. So long as Lute is relevant he will be too
>>154125709>He is alive because I refuse to accept his death.
Adam is mortal, Adam was killed, but did Adam sin? In the context of the show it'll answer itself.
>>154125770Yeah, his likeness and memory. But he himself is not coming back. He's dead.
>>154126090It's a show about death and the afterlife and dying in the afterlife to come back in a different afterlife. It's not outside the realm of possibility.
>>154126107It's also not out of the realm of possibility he was a spoiled brat in Eden. Or that Lilith is evil. Or a bunch of other nonsense. He's dead in-universe and Viv confirmed it.
>>154126120When people ask Viv in interviews if he's coming back she's not gonna actually tell them he is because that would be a huge spoiler.
>>154126090>>154126120Chaz was dead too and look how that turned out
>>154126146We see hell born die all the time.
>doesn't abandon the Hotel at all>cheers them on with moral support>Charlie didn't even know who he wasHow does she expect to help anyone as head counselor when she can't even bother to remember her guests?
>>154126146Enough with the Chaz comparisons. Helluva Boss is a production Viv has significantly more control over. She literally threw out an entire storyboarded episode because it leaked. She doesn't have that same luxury with Hazbin, where seasons are planned, written, recorded, animated, and finalized far in advance.Adam is also a completely different situation. He's a major character with narrative importance, marketing presence, a dedicated fanbase, and an ongoing impact on the plot because of his death. He needs to stay dead.And frankly, Viv is not exactly known for being great at keeping secrets. Even Adam being straight was obvious with her answer when she was asked what he was. Chaz being revived doesn't automatically mean every dead character gets revived.
I was playing Fortnite duos with Viv and she told me Adam's coming back at the end of season 4.
>>154126186Vaggie does most of the leg work. Charlie stand by and looks pretty and feeds off the good vibes. Like any succubus.
>>154126299>looks pretty,That's a stretch.
>>154126302hey now...
>>154126314She's an ugly cow. Also, that's actually the worst image of Charlie you could have used to illustrate your point.
>>154123196She is to Charlie what Sera is to Vaggie: the much better, more understandable version.
>>154126335your face is ugly
>>154126196It's mostly the Adam-fags that think he'll come back. The way Vivzie talks is kinda obvious that he's staying dead, but anything's possible.
>>154123954Yes
>Adam won't come back as a demon>because he did nothing wrong
>>154126473Not an Adamfag, but even I think sinner Adam has potential.
>>154122760I wonder if the scene of Adam's second death death is meant to be a parallel to his first. Dying of old age while Eve was besides him and Adam comforting her during his last moments.
>>154126676Sorry but this sounds godawful and lame. Right on Vivzies brand tho
>>154121016They could’ve done something interesting with Charlie fighting against the guy who got raped by her mom.
>>154126809Nobody raped anyone, idiot.
>>154126828Lilith canonically raped Adam in the original Jewish lore she came from. Some details vary, like Cain also getting raped, or Asmodeus being the offspring of Lilith and Adam, but the general idea of him getting raped by her is true across all versions. She’s an abhorrent rapist, pedophile, and child killer, and it’s hilarious that Viv and other feminists think she’s sympathetic.
>>154126874Yeah no shit. This is Hazbin, a show loosely based off of that shit. We can just as easily say Adam is the same. Also, Lilith has no set 'canon'. She has MULTIPLE canons
>>154126888It’s my canon, which is the only one that matters. Now quit throwing a hissy fit.
>>154126910Delusional with a capital 'D', gotcha.
>>154126809>>154126828>>154126874>>154126888
>>154126929Basic ass white bitch. Viv would.
>>154126931I like white bitches.
this show would have been better if the genders were swapped, change my mind
>>154126921It’s better than anything from the actual show.
>>154126936Viv would still be writing it.
>>154126936>save for Angeldust and HuskI'd say every male character turning female would greatly improve male audience engagement. Not for the better, just more horny posting.
>>154126946Keep dreaming schizo
>>154126936Fem Lucifer being just short Charlie is incredibly funny. He decided to carry the pregnancy and edited almost all of Lilith's genes out.
>>154126966Why are you melting down like this?
>>154127002>>154126966Can you guys just act normal? Last two threads were a completely autistic schizophrenic shit show.
>>154127002You're the only having a meltdown. Ain't nobody interested in your gay fanfiction. Lilith didn't rape Adam.
>>154127011
Bloody Wife
>>154127011nta but you're asking people on 4chan to act normal?
>>154124105Are you that same schizo christian nigga that calls himself "god" and be arguing with people on /hhg/ and pol?Just curious
>>154127441I think he left. I wonder what how bad the /trash/ thread would degenerate if he showed up there.
>>154124697>>154125455Ew,>>154127441No. I don't even know what /hhg/ is, but if i ever did i certainly forgot about it.>>154127470I went to sleep, something humans normally do.Also i don't tend to go onto /trash/, the only exceptions being if a thread i am in gets sent to /trash/.
>>154127578You should hang there sometimes. The /HHG/ there is actually degenerate enough to be worthy of your rants. Plus it would be really funny seeing you summon Roonigger.
>>154126711
>>154120788she’s never gonna be as loved as her dad....
>>154128795She's gonna make Alastor and Lucifer be a couple isn't she ?
>>154128855>No she isn't! Chalastor's gonna become canon!
>>154127596I have no idea who that is but if you think it's a good idea then please, by all means, share a link.
>>154128969>>>/trash/83332823Just introduce yourself and give them your classic speech.
>>154128855I don't think so. Alastor has no care for romantic relations, and if he ever did, it was likely with someone we don't know about and probably ended in a tragedy so deep, the lesson he took from it was>I will never love another person again in respect to your memoryAnd I don't even take that as headcanon, just a very small statistical probability. Nah, Alastor is a power-hungry sociopath who respects power, influence and status. Last season he manage to weasel out of three Demonic Contracts at once because of Charlie conceeding to Vox's demands. Alastor's fetters on his powers have been broken and I am pretty sure next season we're going to see how unhinged he really is.TL;DR>Alastor will be the antagonist of the third season and everyone is going to change their opinion of Alastor if they didn't read the not-so-subtle hints at his scheming and plotting.
>>154127012>no uI accept your concession.
She looks fucking retarded
>>154129173Tell us more about the rape.
>>154129003Eww. Yuri.
>>154129062>Alastor is a power-hungry sociopath who respects power, influence and status.He hadn't asked any of that from Rosie in the deal; it was Rosie who chose the method.and viv herself has stated in S3 Husk realizing how different his position of having his soul owned by Alastor is from Angel Dust's will be an important storyline.
>>154129003Thanks.
>>154130347
Ok so Jake has went full religious crusade on the /trash/ thread so if you actually want to have a normal discussion now's the time.
>>154130491We have nothing but Adam and porn
>>154130652Do you need anything else?
>>154130681Adam and lute pics and fantexts
>>154121431Vaggie was able to be in Heaven despite being cast out.
I want Rosie to give me a boob job.
Will we see a goth Charlie?
>>154127017So to recap in this scene:>Lute sings about Adam being the only soul who ever completed her>Lute removes a rib shaped object from Adam's chest and flies away with it>Uses it to smash up a giant mural of Hell and HeavenAm I tweaking or does this clearly foreshadow both Lute being Eve and Lute/Eve having a bigger villain arc? If she's not Eve then this symbolism is wasted as fuck cause it goes extremely hard
>>154131036>this symbolism is wasted as fuck cause it goes extremely hardThis show is written by Vivziepop. Literally potential woman. We have to wait for S3 to see how hard she manages to shit the bed.
>>154131036Lute pulls out the rib from Adam and uses it to smash the small hell and exorcist mural on the ceiling.Wifeswap could mean that by Lute convincing the disguised Eve to be in Hell, Eve would cause death and destruction.
>>154131168No MatPat. Bad boy. Go to the trash thread and help Jake make it even more schizo.
>>154131036And it's when she sings 'the only soul who's ever completed you' that we see him rise up onto the rib shaped shard and smile at her with a cocked eyebrow.
>>154131204Nah. I’m creeped out because hallucination Adam seems to be a callback to familiar spirits and them being casted from demons.Like maybe this is a direct reaction from Eve herself piloting the illusion.
>>154131292Matpat what do you think of Jax being trans in Digital circus?
>>154131204i see a lot of people thinking this is a mirror of how adam looked at her when he died, but his human face was so much softer and kinder than this. this almost looks like he's making fun of her, which would really be lute making fun of herself subconsciously. i'm sad now.
>>154131309Hmm… I need to take this matter seriously. Very very seriously.The TADC is… I’m a TROON and I’m going to ACKSTRACT.
Will Lute be killed?
>>154131314His death smile felt more like it was trying to say " everything will be alright" in a tender tone. Hallucination Adam's smile gives the vibes of saying " you stressing to much" in a condescending tone.
>>154131336Hopefully not
>>154131334Goose once again couldn't beat the troon obsessed with ACK allegations. Truly art imitates life.
>>154131314I don’t think it’s from Adam or even truly of Lute’s imagination.But from Eve and what she is like in the inside.>Oh really. This nobody that isn’t made from his rib or his dust thinks of herself of completing him.
>>154131408MatPat please stop. Go be a schizo somewhere else.
>>154131408You've got it backwards. When she sings>The only soul who's ever completed youthe YOU here is Lute. Lute is singing that Adam completed her, not that she completed Adam. So a snarky response from """Eve""" makes no sense.
>>154131407I know. I didn’t even see it coming because I was expecting a Caine-story in the episode 9 with Bubble as the main antagonist. Something normal but Jax is an egg that kills himself is actually the most important thing ever to Goose.
Maybe the real Eve were the friends we made along the way.
>>154131434You seriously think an Eve that sees another woman saying this wouldn’t react snarky about it?Not even in a >No. That is supposed to be me.
>>154130491I'm still here.>>154130652Lust is a sin and NSFW isn't even allowed here.
>>154131461Maybe
>>154131541You must go back to them. Only you can offer them salvation from their sins.
>>154131625Nuh uh, you guys keep him. We don't want him either and he was your problem first
>>154131708You both goon. You both earned the amateur preacher.
>>154131374>most self absorbed selfish man who doesn't care about anyone's bullshit snowflake feelings>spends last moments of existence trying to comfort lutegod guitarspear fucks me up so bad
>>154131735Everything about Adam will smash you to bits.
>>154131716Nobody on either board has done anything to deserve the brain poison of a born-again christian, but he's your cross to bearTbh I think for the sin of foisting him off on us, you deserve him more
What is it with this show and Christians
>>154131748i wonder if he looked at eve the same way before he did. >eve alone by the corpse of the man she was made for and now god has taken him away just like her sonshaven't even really been introduced to her and i already think she deserves the world
>>154131811This is more specifically a born-again thingTake the most insufferable person youve ever met, then apply the force multipliers of them thinking they're doing a good thing by proselytizing and also being shit-scared that they're gonna go to hell unless they preach hard enough
>>154131838Honestly could be a great parallel. He died both times with a woman who loved him by his side. In the first case Eve's death probably followed soon after his ( she wasn't that much younger than him). Could be a sign that things might not end up well for Lute.
>>154131868So many believers like him are really weird about romance. They deny a spect of it is meant to eternally exist even when Jesus is described to be marrying a woman.
>>154129254She is retarded
>>154131708>>154131716>>154131769Listen he's a complete schizo which fits better with whatever is going on on the trash thread. Really hope he catches Roonigger's attention or gets into a spat with Millie.
>>154131885We don’t know if Eve ever died in Hazbin. Lilith clearly didn’t.
>>154131625>>154131708Well, it's not like i can't be in both threads.
>>154131902Shut up about /trash/ drama, don't bring it here. It's irrelevant.
>>154131912Wow, you can be in two places where you're not wanted? Truly the born-again dream>>154131902He's interrupting my daydreaming about fucking the clown bitch fishes and reading Alastor yumeship posts
>>154131923Trash is for the coomers to die and remain too unstable to be here. Ever.
>>154131903Lilith seems to have been dropped in hell with Lucifer ( she's obviously the exception). A big thing about consuming the apple is that it is said to given humans mortality so Eve dying of old age like Adam kinda fits.
>>154131946Maybe Eve is sucking up the life forces of humans to stay alive
>>154131946That’s weird. Charlie is said to be a mortal that dies from old age in Vivziepop interviews.
>>154131963MatPat no. Fuck off with that shit.
>>154131993It’s a witch trope.
>Lute is pregnant >She can’t fit into the uniform anymore>Adam puts her in a sundress as cover
>>154132012If it's Adam's baby she's going to have a helluva baby bump.
the whole "exterminations only started 7 years ago" thing still cracks me up.Not only does it make everything seem so compact and short, but the idea that just 8 years previously there was a time when Charlie could be walking down the streets of Hell saying good morning to Hitler, or waving at Dahmer and Gacy, or any of history's other great monsters were just living it up down there.
>>154132047
>>154132078Reminds me of the whole Vaggie is 7/8 years old meme. I know it's probably not the case but still the slander is beautiful.
>>154132101How's that thing coming out?
>>154132101
>>154132138C-section. Safest bet when the baby is this large.
>>154132138Jesus Himself will act as midwife
>>154132154Got the full comic?
>>154132101Lucifer is jealous and baffled
>>154132078The whole construction of the world is supremely flawed; the entire thing is being supported by its aesthetic. None of it really holds up to examination, especially not anything regarding the passage of time.One thing that sticks particularly hard in my craw is that no character acts their age; no matter how old or experienced they're alleged to be, they all act like they're 25
>>154131036She is Eve. Jessica Vosk gave that spoiler away, deleted it, but nobody gives a fuck and thinks it was her being cheeky or it's supposed to just be a parallel to Eve. It's It's really clear, and I don't know why more people are not on it. I assume it's because everyone's attached to the Lilith being Rosie being whatever the fuck plot line from the leaks.
>>154132172Yes but that is an edit haha. The comic is not about pregnancy.
>>154132213
>>154132174He couldn't get his wife pregnant so he had to step up and carry the pregnancy himself. He's probably mad he got baby bumb mogged.
>>154132213>>154132233Man now I'm sad.
>>154132252Don’t worry. they make sure Abel is sad too.
>>154132237Who’s the father?
>>154132194People assume Lute being Eve has to be this super complicated thing when really it's not. Like some have said, people think the old ass leaks are canon. Watch it happen, and people are going to say it was a last minute addition when her voice actor has been hinting at an identity reveal since forever. It's just that nobody gives a shit about Lute like that.
>>154132285For Stewie or the mpreg Lucifer scenario? For Lucifer he probably shapeshifted a womb and used Lilith's genetic material to create and implant Charlie. Apparently similar case Stewie but with Brian's DNA ( the dog).
>>154132308Then what is a Lilith?
>>154132318What do you mean? The Lilith in Heaven? That's just Lilith
I think Lucifer created Charlie. That's skinny ass bitch looks too much like her dad and nothing like Lilith.
>>154132318I guess Mother. If two hermaphrodites with functional genitals have kids I assume they are going to pick their roles as parents based on appearance and not on who carried the pregnancy.
>>154132347Charlie has her S1 mother’s nose.
>>154124280Sorting through all my images now. Hopefully if I don't get distracted I should be able to drop it onto catbox in a couple parts.
>>154132347>>154132354Charlie could be a literal homunculus made out their combined genetic material through magic and angelic/demonic powers.
>>154120889Legitimately my favorite couple in this fucking show I need her bros
>>154132308Lute Is just a character that people use for their fantasies. Nobody gives a fuck. She's gooner material at best.
>>154122208Emily is the vastly superior version of her in everyway
>>154132389This. Am I retarded or does Emily remind anyone of Pilot Charlie?
>>154132389Ok Abel
>>154131938Well even Jesus and His disciples where hardly wanted where they went.
>>154123196Oh my god I need Emily, she doesn't deserve me at all but man
Does God exist in Viv's fantasyland, or is she replacing God with the Good and Evil entity things? Did Good make the Elders?
>>154132405There are real in heaven that act like her.
>>154132419IIRC she said she didn't want to depict God as such, the big gold bird lady is as close as we're likely to get
>>154125418>>154125455Do you think she would be mad if I called her Mom during it, like not Mommy just Mom.
>>154132447I mean, does he even exist at all though?
>>154132403Comparing yourself to Christ? Especially to excuse your behavior? That'll be 77 Hail Mary's and 40 lashes.
>>154132460Since it's based on Christian theology, he necessarily must, but idk. Vivzie isn't great with worldbuilding, even though she's stealing most of the blocks
>>154131036Her va has said shit about how about how Lute isn't who we think she is, and her character story arc goes somewhere that even she was not expecting, and that they've been planting seeds for what's to come in later seasons. It's pretty clear that she's Eve. Why do you think her and Abel are set up to interact more? They'll probably make clearer in season three idk. Adam may or may not stay dead, I don't know what to believe anymore. Viv talks like he's dead, but he's haunting the narrative and he gets a bunch of merch.
>>154132498Viv bases world building on Judaism, Catholicism, Christianity, Mormonism and I forget which others. So it's a smörgåsbord
>>154132397Kind of, for Emily the "openly retarded" to "secretly competent" ratio is actually pretty 50/50 for Emily unlike Charlie
>>154132528>isn’t who we think she isLike a holy angel or a heaven born.> Why do you think her and Abel are set up to interact more? Because Lute fits into the hole that was left empty by Eve. Like a step mom.
>>154132580You take 'she's not who you think she is', she being Lute... an Exorcist angel presumably made by Heaven, to assume that this means nobody is expecting her to be.... heavenborn.... What?
>>154132371She's too cute
I wouldn't necessarily bother because idiots take it to mean that she's talking about her character development. It's clear as day. Just wait until season3 for shit to hit the fan.
>>154132580Nah, that's his mom. Why do you think he didn't rat her out after listening to Gravity.
If Abel died young and since it was confirmed by Sam that he's extremely sheltered because Heaven is practically all he knows, that means he's been in heaven for a long ass time. It wouldn't surprise me that him and Eve are completely estranged.
>>154132597No. I mean they think she is a heavenborn angel but she’s actually a demon or something bizarre.Lute in her season debut implies she is an angel and her kind shouldn’t mingle with demons like Charlie. And within that line, Adam goes “hot as fuck tho”. Lute makes zero responses to it. The silence itself speaks just by how she feels about Adam, the angel.No big mystery of identities or anything.
She is lovely.
>>154132681She bleeds gold
>>154132681Actually, Jessica already called her a demonic angel twice. That's no hidden secret. It wouldn't even be a surprise in the show because clearly the Exorcists don't look like anything holy. That would not be a surprise. There's hidden shit with her both in and out of the show. It's pretty freaking obvious that she's Eve.
>>154132693Correct.
I don't really care who's Eve but... Lilith's whole thing in her canon is leaving, Eve's whole thing in the Bible is staying and being submissive. Yeah that's p much Lute
>>154132704Do the characters in the show know they’re actually demons? Does Adam know he’s actually leading demons?
>>154132707She's basic.
>>154132722Why would you think he wouldn't know? He came up with the idea of the exterminations in the first place. He most likely gave direct hand at creating these things. Do you not see that they all wear black? Do you think he's blind? The fuck? He probably designed their uniforms too.
>>154132528NTA But she also said, twice, that Lute plays some huge role with the whole whole plot between Heaven and Hell. And she recently confirmed that Lute is going to be in season 5. So.
There are so many images of Lute and Adam cuddling compared to pretty much any other themes for fanart. It feels right.
>>154132799Rib sized wife
What is going to happen when the cross over episode comes out?
>>154132799PERFECT IN EVERY WAY
>>154132873Who gives a shit. It'll be crap either way.
>>154132741> He came up with the idea of the exterminations in the first placeDoesn’t mean he knows what a Lute is. And him coming up with exterminations is a part of the propaganda since it has Lilith’s secret involvement.
>>154132700So does Lucifer
>>154132886>him coming up with exterminations is a part of the propaganda since it has Lilith’s secret involvementCasually reading but brother what the fuck are you on
>>154132905.... and?
$10 says this is an Adam glazer that will go on about how heroic he is and how he's the actual protagonist of the show. They're dime a dozen on Twitter.
>>154132914Lilith going to heaven and the exterminations starting happened in the same year. And Adam made a deal with Lilith for this arrangement.
>>154132905Who is a fallen angel, like Vaggie, and Lute still considers Vaggie different enough from Charlie as a holy being to call their love 'vile and blasphemous'.
What's the difference between a gooner, a glazer, and a stan?
I'm on board with the whole Eve being Lute thing is only because people are going to lose their shit like they did with Adam being confirmed straight.
>>154132953>GoonerValentino to Angel Dust>GlazerCharlie to Lucifer>StanVaggie to Charlie>All 3Lute to Adam
They should make Peter straight.
>>154132968Wifeswap is no different.
Sera and Emily should have been asexual.
>>154132978He would never be in a pride parade
>>154132986It is pretty different. But I wouldn't expect faggots here to get that. Everyone still thinks that Charlie's flashback of Lilith is Eve so,, not expecting much.
>>154132993Adam was.
>>154132968A large part of the fandom takes for granted that there is a Hazbin Eve who was originally a ditzy soft flower power girl who got corrupted and became a monstergirl called Roo but who is still deeply in love with Adam. These people think this is already confirmed canon and are invested in it. There are fanworks and fanfics that don't even revolve around this concept but still assume it is true.It would be funny to see this elaborate fanon evaporate overnight.
This fandom specifically has to have information be spelled out to them for some reason. And once they latch onto something, they don't let it go unless it's shoved in their faces. So it'll be a while before they accept something that's pretty in your face. People unironically think that Chaz we've seen so far is his actual twin brother. The bar is not high.
>>154132997This shit is knight Dess rejection 2.0.
>>154132989nah asexuals get weird about deity-tier characters like sera being asexual (god forbid a tall beautiful woman with the second best singing voice in the cast represent them ig). it's used as a way to make a character seem more ~inhuman~ apparently. the types of people who'd get mad at that are also the type of people mad that alastor is asexual too for much the same reason.
>>154133014That's the thing though. I've done digging. That was never a thing. Ever. Look at the old leaks. She never became Roo. Even an ex-worker confirmed that. Roo comes after Eve is defeated by Charlie. The tall blonde fanon Eve never really existed. People also forget that Charlie's book isn't 100% reliable.
>>154133014I second this. I fully support this. This fandom deserves to be blown up to smithereens. It'll be funny because everyone will say it was a retcon. idc about Lute but I have heard the things. Jessica has said, and that one tweet... It's pretty obvious. I have a friend who casually watches this show, and even she says it's obvious that Lute is Eve.
>>154133039I keep seeing people saying that Alastor's romantic orientation has not been disclosed, therefore shipping him is okay but like... Why is that an expectation for him, when you don't do that with other sexualities? People have a weird ass boner with the deer fella. I almost feel bad for him.
>>154133096Jew woman
>>154133052I know there's a current employee that works for Helluva Boss's merchandising department. Her "headcanon" version of Eve looks exactly what the fandom is expecting her to look like. That's also kind of a dead giveaway that she's not like that at all. If it was that close, I'm pretty sure that would be an NDA violation.
>>154133096i'm gonna start getting into adam/alastor to hit as many people as possible.
>Lute is Eve theorists. >Can’t even explain why she would hide her identity from Adam
>>154133127Fuck yeah. In some texts, Adam fucks the animals in Eden before Eve came along. So this wouldn't even be far off
>>154132651She looks weird in this art.
>>154133134I have. Many times. You just don't like the explanations lol The hell do you want me to do about it?
>>154131314>this almost looks like he's making fun of herit 100% is.even in her subconscious, Lute knows that Adam would have called that line sappy, and she's right
>>154133119She works for Helluva Boss. Not Hazbin Hotel.
People take Amir more seriously than Jessica Vosk when it comes to spoilers about their respective characters. That should tell you more than enough about this fandom. Just wait it out. It's going to be hilarious.
>>154133151Is there really anything in the show implying this at all?
>>154133157That would still be an NDA violation.
Why do people want Eve to be Lilith #2? That's so fucking annoying and boring. Not only that, but they're going to try and convince me that they gave ugly ass Adam two tall blonde hotties out of his league?
>>154132693>>154132707Does nothing and is overshadowed by the other 2 dudes in their lame ass trio.
>>154133187An NDA violation for a franchise she doesn’t even handle or know anything about?
I personally would take Lute being Eve, since yeah that already makes more sense, than that fucking retarded theory about Cain being Zestial or Abel being Lucifer's son.
>>154133136cannot remember which adaptation but i swear one version of the whole adam and eve saga had the angels force adam and eve to watch animals mate so they could figure out how it worked because they were doing stupid shit like lying back to back. adam and eve, original furries. it's all their faults. anyway from a cursory glance at ao3 the adam/alastor situation is fairly dire. most of it's just setting up for radioapple.
>>154133223You're acting like Helluva Boss and Hazbin Hotel are two completely different shows that don't share a universe or overlap in any way, shape or form. Stop being stupid.
>>154133204Lilith and Eve believing Adam is below their league is how they ended up in hell.
>>154132873Their doing that? Really?
Viv doesn't have the balls to do serpent seed, or making her favorite Lucifer uvu baby "actually" evil.
>>154133233They are. They only crossover recently and merch bros are only handed what they gotta shill. And Eve is not going to be in helluva boss merch.
>>154133224>abel being lucifer's son only good if it's adamsapple
>>154132943Bruh you gotta respond to someone. You just don't post without embedding a user.
>>154133236Yes. Do you live under a rock? They've been saying that shit for what over a year now? Satan's voice actor recorded lines I think for season 3
>>154133253Take your pick.
>thinking Helluva Boss and Hazbin Hotel didn't take place in the same universe until only recentlyWhat did I say? Low bar. Very very low bar.
>>154133236Did you miss the Charlie and Blitzo announcement.
Do you guys think Roo and Good are going to be a lesbians. Bitter exes.
i hope there's a random episode of helluva boss where everyone casually ducks under the might of lilith beam and keeps going with the scene, and then the next episode has adam fly by with the exorcists in the background. no continuity, only vibes. making timeline theorists cry is always morally correct.
Niffty pegs Baxter btw
>>154133318The fuck is "the might of Lilith"?
>>154133014>>154133052>>154133075At the end of the day for me it doesn't matter who ends up being Eve. I just hope her and Adam actually had a loving relationship. None of that " she actually forgave Lucifer and Lilith shit". Have her hate them and Charlie's biggest achievement will be redeeming her parents by making them earn Eve's forgiveness ( or not).
>>154133338Vox’s laser. Lucifer is inside of it.A penis joke.
>>154133318anon that won't make your schizophrenic headcanons actually canon
>>154133222And that's why fanon exists, to pick up the slack when the showrunners are simply too incompetent to cut it.
>>154133354Lute hates the morningstars. She throws jabs about Lucifer all the way back in episode 1 of the first season. That's just Eve. She's not forgiving shit. Even according to the old leaks, she's pissed as fuck and targets Lucifer and Charlie.
>>154133377What’s did she say about Lucifer?
>>154133399When she's telling Charlie about how unimportant she is, that the only reason she's pardoned is because of Lucifer. Then in season 2 she lies and says that Pentious was under Lucifer's command, which is not true. She has a little hate boner for him.
>>154133360it would be funny though
>>154133437Lucifer came in after Adam had to resort to attacking Charlie for stabbing him. And Lucifer is literally the devil.
Even Amir commented about Lute, saying he was curious. Oh yeah they have some hidden shit with her.
>>154133204>Out of his league Debatable. I could see the Angels making Eve a blonde white woman out of laziness or thinking making the second woman look like the first would help Adam adjust quicker to her. It would be actually interesting if he was initially unnerved by Eve because of that. But not the "twins" theory since I don't think they looked perfectly alike. Just two distinct blonde women.
>>154133467Keep on dreaming.
>>154133224Love the shade thrown at MatPat.
>>154133354god same adam and eve genuinely loving each other and being torn apart and adam spiralling into what he eventually becomes out of grief as a result is so much more interesting and tragic than more 'adam bad and does bad, hey a new plot twist? no just more adam bad'
>>154133470The fuck are you talking about? I'm talking about Season 1 Episode 1. Watch again.
>>154133482Lilith was made of the same clay Adam was. Eve is made from Adam's rib, so it makes sense she'd turn out smaller than Adam and Lilith.
>>154133496who? The film theory guy? I thought he quit YouTube.
>>154133500Lilith and Adam were made from dust in this show.
>>154133231The whole trying to figure out sex by looking at the animals while they do it is funny. Thought I think they might have gotten the technique right when they saw wolves doing it.
>>154133497That would just make Heaven a place for gaslighting hacks that get no consequences for fucking up Adam and Eve for no reason.
>>154133257>>154133294I actually missed it. My bad.
>>154133231I forget which one this was from, but in one, before she was fully physically created, Eve came to Adam in a dream and basically had dream sex with him, so he would know how to fuck her properly. Properly. Otherwise he was apparently clueless. I think Gnosticism or some shit.
>>154133305I hope not. So far all lesbians in a relationship in the show have been incredibly retarded.
>>154133537god's plan bby
>>154133552For heaven to destroy itself to bend down to demons?
Why are people surprised heaven would pull shady shit like that? Look at how Sera treats both Adam and Lute. Like they're both major fuck ups.
>>154133506Nah. MatPat is what we call our resident Schizo theorist.
>>154133550Are they or are you just saying that? I think they're fine. Who would you consider a not retarded candidate for being a lesbian?
>>154133537Heaven kinda sucks in Hazbin so it could be possible. It's really weird how infantilized and borderline "baby proof" it is. It's straight up doesn't feel like heaven. Can't judge Adam for going insane.
>>154133623Sera Is the most incompetent being I have ever seen. I have a hard time believing she was the same one that created Adam in the first place. Yes, they're fully capable of doing stupid shit.
So are the Elders dead or some shit? Are they in a different older realm of Heaven?
>>154133570if all of human sin is stuck in the pride ring solely to punish lucifer, i wouldn't put it past god to have some god-tier brain scheme to have lucifer acknowledge the wrongs he did to adam and eve too. sort of a devilman crybaby scenario.
>>154133623But if Eve is there, they could easily toss her to him. How the fuck are angels, Abel, the winners, and the exorcists not going to trash the place if Lute turns out to be Eve and Heaven decided to do the stupidest bullshit possible. They would execute Sera and anyone aiding her on the spot.
>>154133658By having Adam for good. Pretty good. Why doesn’t the devil die instead?
>>154133665Have you watched this show? It doesn't seem you understand the characters at all.
>>154133698God you're one of those. No, Adam is not good. Get that shit out of here.
>>154133658Devilman crybaby is actually well written. Something Viv and her team are incapable of doing.
>>154133723I think he meant to say "by having Adam be dead for good" .
>>154133707I did watch it. If Lute is Eve, everyone will hate Sera for forcing her to cover it up.
>>154133736You’re right
>>154133737They probably wouldn't. You're talking about a show written by Viv. Adam was killed, Abel did not give two shits. The secret of the Exterminations came out, nobody was angry, they were just scared.
>>154133665Your first mistake is expecting a competent writer to make their characters do competent actions. >>154133724>Something Viv and her team are incapable of doing.This.
>>154133736>>154133753Got it, my mistake then. Apologies.
>>154133763A bold of anyone to assume that they can even get into this sort of detail. Every season so far has been what, eight episodes? With each lasting 30 minutes? Less than that? You're not going to get much story out of that, especially if half of the episode is just songs. On that note, to the people saying that Lute is some sort of replacement or clone, that would add an additional figure, on top of Eve, and we would have no time to get to her. Cut the middleman out, she's just Eve.
>>154133758You’re missing context. Abel knew his dad is dead a month before the trail. He had time to prepare and act nice and friendly to get the job whose description is about… killing sinners. And to look good in front of a girl he likes.
Also Viv is pretty indecisive when it comes to certain plot lines. 2 years ago in the one of the patreon Q&A things, she basically said that the Exorcist being winners or not didn't make much of a difference and that they were still figuring it out. You know, when the show was airing? I'm going to have to hold your hand if you're expecting Viv to be competent with her world building.
>>154133800No, we're not doing this shit again. Nobody is buying that Abel is some bloodthirsty psychopath.
>>154133793You think two minutes of backstory isn’t enough for Lute to be created and meet Adam in heaven?
What's with that one dude's obsession with making Hazbin Abel, of all people. some revenge obsessed bloodthirsty psycho, when Cain is the better candidate.
Will probably only see Adam's family once in a flashback and then Viv will never tell us what happened with them
>>154133835Just MatPat being MatPat. Dude has this obsession with thinking that Abel got his brain rewired when Cain bashed his skull with a rock, and now he wants to kill demons, just like his daddy.
>>154133800Fuck off MatPat. Go lurk in the trash thread and get called a Jew there.
>>154133835You could also use Seth for that. He's the one hyped as Adam's perfect son.
>>154133878Yeah, exactly. Viv went out of her way to portray Abel as the complete opposite of whatever the fuck the other dude is on.
If Cain and Seth wanted to kill and were in heaven, they would be gunning to be the head exorcist. So why is it weird to think Abel isn’t going to be different from them when he willingly taken the job underhandedly? Just because he looks nice? You girls are mega retarded.
>>154133937Oh my God shut upppp
>>154132468Don't twist my words accuser, i never did such a thing i simply used both Jesus and His disciples as examples.
Oh great now there's two of them... Or is it the same faggot going under a different name?
>>154133955You get pissy when I said the job descriptions of what the head exorcist is hired to do.
>>154133937MatPat stop insulting women. We get it you have no game. But some of us might be trying to get stinky femcel pussy.
>>154133976Samefagging is a thing, yes, and 'Jake' suspiciously repeats the same talking points that MatPat has used in the past on the /trash/ threads.
>>154133991NTA but, no Mat:- Abel, having a bent Shepherd's cane does not mean he had a fit of rage - Emily tells us why he got the job. It was nepotism. We are told this. - After his seeing Lute perform Gravity, he was making a "Okay, I'm out" gesture. It was not him looking at his hands because of Lute's line- It was confirmed he was looking at his helmet when she flew away because he felt conflicted about having called her a bitch - It was confirmed that he is extremely sheltered and has been in Heaven for a very long time. Was also confirmed that him having acted like his father to get Lute in line was something completely out of character for him. That's his whole character arc- The one who wants revenge, is bloodthirsty, is a psychopath, that's LutePlease go away now. It's been said several times, unless you have official confirmation, then what you have is just fan fiction. Good day.
There's no use arguing with either Matpat or ""Jake"" just ignore them.
Anyone gonna bake a new thread?
Can we please not let this thread go to shit? The ones on trash are a dumpster fire. I think I prefer porn fan art then whatever the fuck these schizos bring to the table.
>>154133970Naw you explicitly invoked Christ in the image of your shitty behavior. Gonna have to bump that up to 100 Hail Marys and 80 lashes, and that flail better be on my desk and bloody by morning
gregnant lute...
>>154134122CUTE!!!
>>154134068>- Abel, having a bent Shepherd's cane does not mean he had a fit of rageAlright. You immediately revealed you are too retarded to comprehend people raging at golf jokes.Or you simp for Abel this hard you can’t comprehend him being angry ever.
>>154134122
>>154133165Sorry but, Emily will be in Alastor's hands soon.
>>154134141Okay Mat. Go away now.
>>154134145i hope that was a c-section because otherwise lute's a fucking trooper for squeezing that thing out.
>>154133997Of course you are trying to get stinky vaginas. You shower bi-weekly.
>>154134081Okay.
>>154134171Speaking of squeezing things out.
>>154134188>lute wash your damn uniform
>>154134201he wants to sit on it i love adam's stupid bird brain
>>154134188Holy shit that was bad. You really need to work on your insults cuz that was a terrible performance.
>>154126335I hear the triple chin talking off of you, fatlard. Get on a treadmill and eat a carrot, obese cunt.
