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Every single one
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>>154142828
Cirno
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>Multiple Hulks attacking Serbia next
Hulkbro.....what is the meaning of this?
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>>154142828
...would be instantly destroyed by THE SENTRY
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>>154142985
Kek.
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>>154142984
Does she beat SMT Jack Frost or nah?
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>>154142984
Denji's cocksleeve
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>>154142985
Why is the soldier dude in the top panel some sort of bunny rabbit
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>>154143075
>SMT scaling
no
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Isaac Clarke vs Gordon Freeman (Dead Space vs Half-Life)
Gipsy Danger vs Eva-01 (Pacific Rim vs Neon Genesis Evangelion)
Ryu Hayabusa vs Naruto Uzumaki (Ninja Gaiden vs Naruto)
Hakumen vs Excalibur (BlazBlue vs Warframe)
Megaman X vs Ultraman Zero (Megaman vs Ultraman)
Frank Horrigan vs Adam Smasher (Fallout vs Cyberpunk)
Odin vs Zeus
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Subject 106 vs Point Man (Trepang2 vs F.E.A.R.)
Subject 106 vs Hank J. Wimbleton (Trepang2 vs Madness Combat)
Adrian Shephard vs Point Man (Opposing Force vs F.E.A.R.)
Hank J. Wimbleton vs V1 (Madness Combat vs Ultrakill)
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Are there characters that have been designated by the community at large as too strong for their stories to make any sense?
How do we get back to levels that make sense for those stories?
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>>154143075
The base dynamic of the fight is that Cirno can't die and Jack Forst is immune to ice attacks...
But apparently Jack is outerversal so I don't think Cirno can do anything here regardless
>>154143096
>Denji's onahole looks like a little girl barely above 10
PEDOji...
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>>154143238
Nta but
>Cirno can't die
Sounds like NLF.
>>154143096
He already has Nayuta.
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Good morning /dbg/
Won any fights recently? Destroyed anyone in a VS debate? Regale me of the conquests of these halls.
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>>154143334
cuckoldry won, as always
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>>154143363
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>>154142828
I just discovered that Featherine is a FRAUD.
Literally for years i have heard that Featherine is really strong because supposedly she can manipulate the plot. I have heard that for years.
Today i discovered that is not true.
Featherine comes from a verse called "Umineko" and she is literally a regular person.
Except it turns out she is an author who created her own fictional verse.
Featherine writes all the stories and characters from Umineko and she selfinserts in her own verse as a goddess and that's why she is very strong in the Umineko verse.
She can control the plot of the Umineko verse because she is the writer of that verse but she cannot control the plot of other stories.
This bitch is a FRAUD.
Literally everyone in the Umineko verse is 1 dimensional except for Featherine and she is a normal regular 2 dimensional human with no powers.
She is 2D and everyone else in her verse is 1D.
This bitch would fucking DIE to Goku.
Literally every character itt can solo Featherine and her entire verse.
Featherine is a FRAUD and I HATE WEAKLING.
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>>154143366
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>>154143256
Fairies are made of pure life force and are embodiments of nature, killing a Fairy just makes them spring forth again without issue.
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>>154143466
FUCK
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>>154143466
>>154143482
SMT demons have conceptual bullshit
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>>154143577
Stephen makes it seem more like their influence is dictated by human imagination though, they aren't like primordial concepts of the universe or something.
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>>154143457
C’MON HONEY PUSH! PUSH! YOU CAN DO THIS! I CAN’T WAIT TO SEE THAT BEAUTIFUL MOBIAN FACE LOOKING AT ME!
>C’MON! YES! YES! I CAN SEE IT! YABBA DABBA...?
>...
>what
>What?
>WHAT. IN. TARNATION!
*Smashes camera replaying Geoffery, Chadow, Knuckles, Antoine, Elias and Tails's sex session against wall in fit of anger*
>BY THE ANCIENT WALKERS!!! THIS IS A HALF HEDGEHOG BABY! WHAT THE FUCK! YOU BITCH! YOU LYING FUCKING CUNT THIS IS A HALF HEDGEHOG BABY WHAT THE FUCK HOW IS THIS POSSIBLE YOU WERE ONLY SUPPOSED TO SLEEP WITH MY BVLLS!!?
>HOLY CHILIDOGS!!! YOU SCOOPED UP SOME OF MY CUM?! BECAUSE YOU WANTED ANOTHER CHILD WITH THE M*N YOU LOVE? YOU CUM STEALING, LOVING CUNT!!!! I KNEW I SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN THAT VASECTOMY FROM NICOLE-SAN!!! I THOUGHT IT WAS SUSPICIOUS THAT YOU ARGUED AGAINST IT BUT I FIGURED IT WAS FINE BECAUSE I NEVER HAVE SEX WITH YOU!!! I NEVER THOUGHT YOU’D STAB ME IN THE BACK LIKE THIS!!!
>WHAT DID I TELL YOU LAST YEAR AT THE KEKOLD CONTEST??! I'M THE MOTHERFUCKING CHAMP! HOW THE FUCK AM I SUPPOSED TO BE THE KEK KING IF MY FAITHFUL, LOVING CUNT WIFE POPPED A FUCKING LAUGHING BOUNCING PALE HALF HEDGEHOG BABY OUT OF HER CUNT!!!
>STIFFEN THE SWATBOTS, I’M RUINED!!! YOU’VE RUINED ME YOU STUPID TWAT!!! MY WIFE GAVE BIRTH TO A HEDGEHOG BABY!!! AND HE'S GOT SPIKY HAIR TOO!!! IF HE HAD NO HAIR I COULD AT LEAST PRETEND IT WAS MARIO'S (who solos my verse btw) BUT I CANT DO THAT WITH A SPIKY HAIRED KID NOW CAN I??? IM GONNA BE THE JOKE OF THE KEKOLD COMMUNITY NOW!!! THEY'RE GONNA THINK IM A FUCKING BACKBONED BULL NOW!!! THIS IS THE WORST DAY OF MY LIFE!!
>GIVE ME THAT HEDGEHOG BABY RIGHT NOW IM GONNA BREAK ITS FUCKING NECK!!!! I’M GONNA SMASH THATHEDGEHOGFUCKING BABYS FUCKING SKULL UNDERNEATH MY YUJINAKA LISCENSED SNEAKERS!!!! GIVE IT TO ME YOU LYING FAITHFUL CUNT OR ILL CUT YOU A NEW HOLE IN YOUR FUCKING THROAT!!! GIVE IT TO ME YOU BITCH GIVE IT GIVE IT GIVE IT!!!! GREAT GRANDPA SONUGH’S GHOST I'M GOING TO FUCKING KILL IT!
> I AM SUCH AN ANGRY KEEEEEEEEEEK
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>PEDOrio sharing his lustful fantasies about a TEEN ANIMAL at 6 am
Done. The winner is GODnic.
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Reimu won
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I... I jobbed.
Again.
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>>154143951
JJKbros...
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>>154143922
...the winning competition
... On a normal day
... On planet earth
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>>154143951
Lucy...
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>>154143922
So why is it that Youkai need to be in Gensoyoko? I admit that it is only through the wiki that I have any information, but does the scientific world's greater understanding of the world reduce the effectivity of youjutsu?
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>>154143951
The internet’s capacity to come up with new jokes…..
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Someone pitch this to DB
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>>154144006
The MU is only fair if it was T.V. Shinji, putting Rebuild Shinji makes it uneven.
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>>154143972
Youkai new to be feared to keep existing, the outside world obviously lost its fear for supernatural stuff so the sages set up gensokyo so Youkai can keep on living, the human village is quite literally an engine of fear in a way, it's sole purpose being to keep humans to have a source of fear.
Something similar happens with gods but using faith instead of fear.
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>>154144068
Wait. So you're telling me that Touhou is yet another setting that is based on the Jungian/Platonic stuff?
This must have something to do with Buddhism or something, because it happens in a lot of Japanese fiction.
Fate has Mystery, Chainsaw Man has Devils, Persona has the universal subconscious (as does Fire Force), SMT and Digimon both have their own spins on it as well.
Then again, it isn't the only place where it happens, since stuff like Dungeons and Dragons have it so the gods are as powerful as the number of worshipers they have and Warhammer 40k has Chaos exist as a matter of feelings and beliefs.
Is it just authorial fiat to allow characters to be as strong or as weak as to fit the plot?
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>>154142828
Why are Bleachkeks such liars? Not even the novels have the characters at multiverse level.
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>>154143096
Who wins this?
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>>154144006
Nah, someone needs to shell out $300 for gacha slut vs Minecraft Youtuber
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Why is Simon so weak.
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Who comes to your mind when you read the word "Weakling"?
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F-FUUUUUUCK
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>>154144329
You're brown
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>>154144347
All of composite fiction minus GODnice
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>>154144347
Ichigo
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>>154144367
Lost to Criss Angel btw
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>>154144347
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>>154144386
Criss Angel vs Hydrick
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>>154144386
Post Piss Angel not being a fraud with no real feats
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>>154144354
I thought you guys claimed he was outerreversal before, why are we backpedaling to Goku
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>>154144364
you're the brown one Alvin
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>>154144347
someone whose
>retarded fans claim he is moon level when the flying fuck of moon is a small piece of shit
>retarded fans claim he is ftl when he needed a stupid mach 2 cloud to travel
>retarded fans clam he is ftl when he needed a day to finish less than 1,000,000 km
>retarded fans claim he is solar level based in a stupid extra material that is so retarded that makes a fat farmer scale to country level tier
>retarded fans claim a stupid filler scene is canon even when in the own anime is contradictory
>retarded fans claim he is galaxy level when the pink retard of a villain needed years to destroy hundreds of planets
>retarded fans claim he is dimensional because some portals opened
>retarded fans claim he is universal because a senile old fuck declared that, and because some planets went kaboom
>retarded fans claim he is universal when subsequent villains reach galaxy level at most
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>>154144505
Seems you're a bit mad, might wanna take a step back.
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>>154144505
True
Sonoc is such a fraud
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>>154144354
>>154144403
Awakened Garou?!
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I love weakling because weakling makes me look strong...
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>>154144367
KINGnice, Based, Canon.
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>>154144505
SHITku…
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>>154144354
Where did the supposed huge fanbase of this series go?
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>>154142828
Superfraud Prime
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>>154144667
That's gonna leave a mark
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>>154144686
Well that just happened
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>>154144667
>>154144686
>>154144707
And TANKED that?!
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I guess Doctor Who being British tokusatsu was correct
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>>154144805
Doctor who gives a SHIT
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>>154144707
>>154144686
>>154144667
>stronger than 1.5 normal krpyonians and several other characters who probably scale very high in DC
>he STILL didn't fucking die, was just knocked out temporarily
DAMN, this guy would demolish Goku....
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>>154144835
...'s cock.
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>>154144805
Very early DW was British toku along with the 9-10 era. Everything after that was cgi slop afaik. You can compare DW to Super Sentai but being generous here, even SS didn't get nearly as raped as DW did.
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>>154143965
>>154143966
Cute feet
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>>154144199
>>154144926
>Mountainlevelchigo
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>>154142985
Makes sense that our Hulkfag is Croatian then
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>>154143409
Made for Big Suggs Cock
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>>154144805
If I were a tokufag, I would simply not claim Doctor Who as anything close to my genre. I'm not a masochist.
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>>154145139
A Bitchigo fan made this image
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>>154145139
k, b, c
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>>154145139
This is true though
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>>154143749
Imagine having this form and still losing to stinky frenche skunk balls.
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Bad news, CSMbros. Our mural just keeps being vandalized.
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>>154145139
HOLY TRVTH NVKE!!!!!!!
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If you need to use Archie Sonic to stand a chance against Goku, then that's admitting to Mainline Sonic being a jobber.
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>>154145202
Frieren is my favorite CSM character
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>>154145202
frieren, the strongest csm character
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>>154145202
The fuck did Frieren do
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>>154145202
Frieren is the cutest CSM character
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I will NOT take the bait of libel against my hero. No, I must not, and I will NOT. He would not fall for it, neither will I.
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>there's people comparing Alucard with Yuji
Uhh... JJK bros? I thought people would turn against CSM because of the wank? Why is everyone laughing at our MC and comparing him to one of the biggest frauds in DB?
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>>154144006
>>154144036
Sadly, Eva wins because he gets hard carried by AT hax.
>>154143466
I don't see how that would help against an outerversal creature that could just erase said nature.
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>>154145139
Saved.
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>>154145290
It's not slander. Slander is spoken, libel is written.
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>>154145139
>SuperKEK hiding behind his master
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>>154145271
>one of the biggest frauds in DB?
Ash out of NOWHERE
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>>154145271
>one of the biggest frauds in DB
Goku out of NOWHERE
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Time for DBX cope, AI cope and HBOC cope!!!
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>>154142985
LMAO.
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>>154145290
It is not. I resent that.
Slander is spoken. In print, it's libel.
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Why is everyone suddenly so hostile against Dragon Ball?
We used to stand side by side against DC and Marvel, now people here threat it like we treat random fraudulent moeshit
Because of that we have garbage, dishonest, verses like Ultraman and Touhou running around
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>>>154145139
>>SuperKEK hiding behind his master
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>>154145309
Ad populum fallacy is not a valid argument.
If someone who knows the Earth is round lives in a town were everyone else believes the Earth is flat (or just say so because they want to annoy other people) and a voting poll or something is made were the question is "Is the Earth round or flat?" with "the Earth is flat" winning, that doesn't make it true.
>>154145388
>JJ himself entered 4Chan to do my joke but better.
I kneel.
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>>154145271
Even before this debate was even a thing, there were posts about how Yuji was a fucking Deku victim. A fucking DEKU victim. That's an absurd level of slander right there.
https://streamable.com/ojqdlc
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>>154145393
Agenda by the Tokufag and Sonicfags that was successful
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>>154145271
Holy kek
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>>154145393
>dishonest, verses like Ultraman
Ultraman has villains that have destroyed universes. On-screen.
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>>154145455
Nooo don't look don't open this
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>Sonic the Hedgehog is still 2-1 vs Dragon Ball with no answer in sight

Dragonbros... How did we become Sonic's SISSIES!?!? We need to HIDE behind our BULL immediately!!
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>Touhou out of NOWHERE
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>>154145271
>One of the biggest frauds in DB?
That's not Alucard, the frauds in question are Dio and DB. Dio was wanked and DB was biased towards JoJo. I say this being a fan of both JoJo and Hellsing.
>>154145414
>City level character loses to a character consistently scaled to country level and above.
That sounds reasonable.
Also, see:>>154145388
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>>154142828
If your character cannot do this, then they are WEAK
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>>154145484
>That's not Alucard
That is indeed Alucard >>154145455
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>>154143749
KKKIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINNGGGnniiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiicc!
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>>154144347
Tr/a/nime. All of them.
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>>154144347
/co/mics, all of them
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>>154145511
Sonic you are not on the team gtfo
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>>154144347
Not Videogames
They have KONGTOS
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>>154145139
Kek, based, canon.
>>154145309
Kakarotfag, BITCHly, crying.
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>>154144347
/v/ideo games. All of them
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Can you stop making fun of my hero?
Pleaseee?
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>>154145271
>biggest frauds in DB?

Picks a character with zero fraudulent scaling or feats.
You could have actually picked a character death battle has actually used fraudulent scaling for.
Like Omniman or SuperMan, or Cell , or Kratos or Dio (city to country level durability my ass)
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Please keep making fun of my hero, I have a humiliation fetish
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>>154145592
Will do!
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>>154145592
Gokek...
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My fuarking hero...
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>>154145495
>Reddit post from a JJK fan about something I wasn't talking about.
That's not what makes a fraud.
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>>154145592
lol listtroon really is a stupid spic huh
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>>154145588
>SuperMan or Kratos
Alucoper's true colors...
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>>154145511
Ultima didn't do shit, even In the novel it's all alien x style statements.
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>>154145630
Novels are all statements
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>>154145511
not a single one of these niggers have ever affected the entire multiverse, or even a single universe
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>>154145393
Thats just two or three faggots that hate dragon ball anon, eventually something else will take its spot
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>>154145511
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORRDniiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiic!
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>>154145393
Ultraman and Touhou being garbage doesn't make Dragonballfags any less dishonest
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Using Dio vs Alucard is an odd comparison when both those niggers were fraudulent as hell. 1500x FTL from a relativistic feat and city level using shit a decade after he died
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>>154145632
Novelbros...
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>>154145669
Dio should of lost though. All Aulcard needs is a shard of glass
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>>154145393
We're tired of your featless frauds sullying our sacred Halls. We're sick of your tranny antics and faggot spam.
FAGon FAG has always been low rent brown garbage. You're in the lane you made.
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Matchups for this feel?
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>>154144347
(You)
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>>154145668
nta but yea
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>>154145511
What the fuck is regular Superman doing there
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>>154145724
Feats of Dio for these calcs?
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>>154145736
Why have Ultrabros been sitting on feats like this, I assumed it was all scaling nonsense
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>>154145753
non readers like to act like SuperKEK is allmighty
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>>154145271
>things no one is doing
Meanwhile in reality, Oregon Sword is being mocked as the new sun disk.
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>>154145770
Chinese people are just now learning to make .webms
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>>154145724
FUARK remember when Dio destroyed all of Cairo with a punch?
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DioKEKs....I tried to looking for his feats but all I found was him fucking a black teenage boy and Dio's wives leaving him for other men.... I won't lie I kind of liked it!!!
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>>154145770
It's a bit of both, but it's far from fraudulent.
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I hope toyotaro gives the manga more impressive stuff
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>>154145724
Death of every feats-man by the hands of a statement-fraud, leaves a void in my heart
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>>154145854
Dio never had a single wide though, the most he did was fuck random women with another man's dick
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>>154145933
It's gonna be a while, he has angels at galaxy level and is still using serious Beerus as a stop gap between Goku and the angels.
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>>154145949
>wide
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Reminder

ALL TROONS MUST HANG BY THE NECK UNTIL DEAD.

Thank you for your attention to this matter.
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>>154145978
SuperKEKs....
DioKEKs...
SonicKEKs...
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Who would win these match ups and why?
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>>154145964
F & D are next to each other if you haven't noticed
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>>154146004
Wtf is Ken doing against Jotaro or Vader against Omniman. I would say the same with Ghost Rider but he is tricky at least so there is a chance maybe
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>>154146007
Nice try, ESL
>>
HEROES
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>>154146004
Ghost Rider statstomps
Ryu statstomps
Omni-Man statstomps
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>>154145753
Supes is way too nice he should have done what Connor did and return the favour
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>>154146035
Getting called ESL 1000 times won't make me double-check my posts on a Mongolian basket weaving forum.
I remember the days when obvious typos like that weren't attributed to random bullshit though.
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>>154146004
Ghost Rider gapes beyond any conceivable measure
Jotaro outhaxes and should be faster but Ryu has all the Abilities he needs to win, I think it's 60/40 in favor of Jotaro
I know Vader has plante level shit and way better abilities but I just can't see him doing anything against Omniman, and Omniman has star level wank so I think Omniman wins
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Remembering when people used to count Time Stop Barrages and with the overinflated Silver Chariot calc, used to put Jotaro and Dio at Country Level off punching the opponent during their timestops.
This was also only using the diamond teeth punch, and not the kiloton meteors that job to clothes or the gigaton storm calcs, which I'm pretty sure would put said Timestop Barrages at Continental to Planetary if people still counted that shit
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>>154146079
>supes is no nice the flesh on his hand decided to give way to SBPs laser vision
That's a new cope
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>>154146004
Probably GR because Marvel capeshit wank and having some goofy feats though the whole infinite rage thing could be an issue

Depends on how Power of Nothingness interacts with time stomp. Jotaro could potentially punk him with time stomp barrage

Depends on how you take EU wank. If Omniman can manage a blitz he wins. Also depends of lightsaber can cleave him without issue
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>>154145616
Wait, you think this is a non-fraudulent MFTL+++++ feat?
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>>154146079
Didn't leave a scratch sorry
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>>154145511
IT is weird
The suppossed thing that sonic fought that destroyed the multiverse used rocks as a notable attack
Koslov pet needed a gazillion suns to destroy a multiverse...An unstable baby multiverse, the actual destruction was only continental
Prime is legit though
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>>154144731
He is wearing a suit that keeps him at full power if he can't tank a punch from Robin I would be worried.
>>154144835
>>stronger than 1.5 normal krpyonians and several other characters who probably scale very high in DC
They are street level with exception of a few
>>154144835
>>he STILL didn't fucking die
Because of Connor
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>>154146135
>The Darkest Knight couldn't kill him but Conner could
lmao
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>>154146098
Still made adult Prime with Time Trapper powers bleed
>>154146129
Even if retcon it still happened.
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>Prime is stronger than composite Superman
>Sentry is about to spread Prime's ass wide open and spread it so much the entire Marvel verse could walk in
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>>154146215
Yet in that story he dies and reincarnates in a new Earth Prime.
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Public opinion seems to have really turned against Dragonball in these threads, why did they fall from grace so hard? Are they ACTUALLY frauds..?
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>>154143159
>you need full SMT scaling to beat Cirno
Damn...
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>>154146306
>why did they fall from grace so hard?
SuperKEKS started to get really insecure when people started to question the all knowing Death Battle. REMEMBER CHUD!!! CANON Battle is NEVER EVER HECKIN WRONG!!! .....Except for DBX....which ISN'T canon!
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>>154146306
Yup
UltraCHADS exposed the Dragonkeks as weak frauds
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What is Goku doing?
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>>154146004
Asura
Ryu
Omni, but vader with lore wank.
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>>154146362
Jobbing to space, bullets, small lasers, and disease.
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>>154146362
Jobbing to Sonic
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>>154146306
Because as it turns out "punching really hard it shakes the universe" is still a fraudulent feat because it directly relies on scaling to a character Goku couldn't even manage to beat.
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>>154146339
>Goku from DBZ whose entire verse caps out at 18 universes (now 12) and is entirely reliant on statements from a single showing which is then never replicated or matched to get universal isn't a particularly strong character despite what various swarthoids would have you believe
Yes?
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>>154146400
>Superman has more universes so he wins!!
Didn't work for Kyle.
Won't work for Prime.
Shouldn't work for SuperKEK
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>>154146289
>reincarnates
I am not sure you know what this word means
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wtf does knuckles think he's doing
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>>154146419
Simon was Infinite Multiversal and 11-D Hyperversal with reality warping, acasuality, existence erasure resistance, probability manipulation, reactive AP evolution on the order of infinities.
Goku's verse caps out at 12 universes and has literally no hax whatsoever until you include the manga-only Hakai so he is literally just a weak ass flying brick
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>>154145393
>Why is everyone suddenly so hostile against Dragon Ball?
Because it's seen as one of the strongest verses in contemporary culture and thus people try to make their favorite verses look good by constantly beefing with Dragon Ball.
If Dragon Ball was as weak as /dbg/ thinks it is, then people would be trying to matchup with other media. That's not what happens though.
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>>154146419
HEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHE
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>>154146419
it certainly shouldn't matter because none of them bitches ever came close to destroying even ONE universe
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>there is literally nothing stopping Superman from eating the entire Dragon Ball cosmology
>there is literally nothing stopping Thor or Sentry from eating the entire Dragon Ball cosmology
>there is literally nothing stopping Spawn from eating the entire Dragon Ball cosmology
>there is literally nothing stopping Mario from eating the entire Dragon Ball cosmology
>there is literally nothing stopping Sonic from eating the entire Dragon Ball cosmology
>there is literally nothing stopping Kirby from eating the entire Dragon Ball cosmology
>there is literally nothing stopping Ultraman from eating the entire Dragon Ball cosmology
>there is literally nothing stopping Reimu from eating the entire Dragon Ball cosmology
>there is literally nothing stopping Ultraman from eating the entire Dragon Ball cosmology
>there is literally nothing stopping a random Pokemon from eating the entire Dragon Ball cosmology
>there is literally nothing stopping a random Yugioh vanilla from eating the entire Dragon Ball cosmology
>there is literally nothing stopping a random Digimon from eating the entire Dragon Ball cosmology
>there is literally nothing stopping Denji from eating the entire Dragon Ball cosmology
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>>154146561
>Superman in pure shock, terror and disbelief as he accidentally oneshots Goku and his entire verse from a single punch
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>>154145794
Keep on coping about it, JJKek. It isn't sticking anywhere outside your groomercords
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Based Prime pimping his not cousin. Funny thing is Alex is going to pimp her as well
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>>154143238
>PEDOji...
No laws against the fairies
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Does your verse contain a character(s) that could unironically eat the entire Dragon Ball cosmology?
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>>154146530
>*KTNK*
What Mahoraga does to Goku after one adaptation
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>HBOCperman
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>guy currently 3-0 against Goku and only disputed by insane mentally ill latinx nigga
>HBOC
?
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Bros... is this really how it would go?
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>>154146619
>guy currently 3-0 against Goku
>SAITAMA and BEJITA out of NOWHERE
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>>154146619
>Every other match is officially an unreliable source and outdated
>So SuperKEK is 1-1
>Even in GVS3, the research is biased and ignores everything so it's also unreliable
>So SuperKEK is 0-1 at best, 0-2 at worst
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1-12ku the CANONLYBEATSTREETTIERCHILDRENyan!
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>>154146594
There is literally nothing stopping Galacta from eating the entire Dragon Ball cosmology
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>>154146561
Reminder that dragonshitters count fights, where the victor has more votes, as a "victory"
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The lion does not concern himself with the small dog's 12 universes cosmology
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>>154146339
See >>154145407
>>154146390
Saint Seiya mentioned.
>>154146419
Simon is literally Him and built different by his own will.
>>154146503
Simon is not a bitch, he tanked an infinite multiverse Big Bang, and destroyed an infinite multiverse 11D space.
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>>154146362
Being Sonic's SISSY.
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>Yujiro can now tank 12 strikes of 1.5 tons force to the face in a second
>for multiple seconds in a row
>with zero damage
Yujiro would FRAUDCHECK batman and bane.
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I just can't believe DBZ's cosmology is that small...
>>
icky vic
the stupid spic
tried to suck
a cosplayer's dick
got rejected
his axe wound infected
41% is his final trick
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>>154146720
>Simon is not a bitch, he tanked an infinite multiverse Big Bang, and destroyed an infinite multiverse 11D space.
I was talking about the characters listed in the post - Rayner, Superman and Prine
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I think mainline videogame Sonic and Mario and composite Goku all lose to Spawn ngl.
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>>154146735
Tougher than Dio, that's for sure
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>>154146390
Goku vs. the strongest bunch of irrelevant has-beens we can find.
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>>154146764
Yujiro would RAPE and GAPE Dio too.
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>>154146572
Keep living under a rock, I guess.
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Not "countless" universes, not "millions" of universes. 12. 12 universes. A random character from my verse could just, wave his hand and accidentally destroy DBZ.
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>>154146306
When have these threads ever been on Dragon Ball's side?
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>>154146771
>all of DEADgon ball out of NOWHERE
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>>154146735
WOW...He is almost LUKE CAGE tier now!!
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SCH (Small Cosmology Hate)
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>>154146787
>Not being a JJKek means you live under a rock
Your verse got fraud checked by Denji and Deku
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>>154146805
Can Luke 'Sissy' Cage stop an Earthquake with a punch or tank lightning(which we're explicitly told he could have dodged.)?
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No one actually watches media from verses like Ultraman and Sonic so they can just lie about everything and get away with it.
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>>154146306
The tranny that reps them should seriously 41% for Dragon Ball's sake. It's only gonna get worse for them as the troon deteriorates.
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>>154146825
No one cares about oregon
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>>154146762
Kyle is literally the Phoenix of DC universe and Superman has multiversal feats. Idk about Prime but from what I've seen he's multiversal or higher.
>>154146771
Not only is appealing to popularity not an argument but those "has-beens" fans could beat you up, based on those I know.
>>154146792
Doesn't composite DBZ cosmology actually have infinite multiverse/es and higher dimensional scaling?
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>>154146795
>Can even remember the characters I was making fun of.

Point proven.
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>>154146763
Of course, after all Spawn is canonically in Superman's weight class (don't ask how Batman tanked these hits)
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>>154146833
Ultrafag posted his dvd set a while ago and utterly BTFO doctorspic
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Goku is kinda like Spawn and Simon if Spawn and Simon weren't infinite multiversal, couldn't warp reality, space, or time, couldn't regenerate from existence erasure and had no powers and lived in a verse with only 12 universes in it.
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>>154146763
>0-4perman hiding behind the 4-0 UNDEFEATED KING of Death Battle
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>>154146852
>is literally the Phoenix of DC universe
nobody who says that has ever read a comic with Kyle featured in it. Jobbing punching bag and an incompetent shitter is what Kyle actually is.
>Superman has multiversal feats
he doesn't even have star level feats
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>3 losses to Bejita
>3 losses to Superman
>3 losses to Saitama
>1 loss to Spongebob
>1 loss to Reverse Flash
>1 loss to Archie Silver
>1 win against Gon
1-12KINGKUUUUUUUUUUU
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>>154146864
Base Spawn is above street tier in tons of TNT levels at most best, but base Spawn using his necroplasm/magic/hell powers is above nuclear level.
>>154146892
Sup3rman broke your mind so hard you hallucinate a fan of him and an enemy in the place of an unbeaten Sp4wnCHAD.
>>154146910
I admit I don't know about Kyle, I won't take your words for absolute truth either.
See Vs Battles Wiki for Superman.
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>Goku has more losses than his cosmology has universes
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>>154146947
>I admit I don't know about Kyle
Yeah I know
>See Vs Battles Wiki for Superman
and you obviously don't know shit about Superman either if your proof is the cesspool of retardation and "everyone is akshually outerversal" that is vs battles wiki.
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>>154146956
kek
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>>154146956
Funnyroo!
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>>154146923
I thought it was actually 1-15 but IDK.
>>154146864
Spawn seems to be toying with him too, and Batman literally always has the writers and the plot on his side.
>>154146964
You didn't prove VSBW is wrong.
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>>154146979
>Spawn seems to be toying with him too
>"It's enraged"
>spells out that Spawn thinks he's a demon
nah
>You didn't prove VSBW is wrong.
vsbw is always wrong
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4D = space and time
5D = timelines and shit
How do you even go beyond this?
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>>154142985
What is the problem?
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>>154146858
>all of DEADgon ball out of NOWHERE
>AGAIN
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>>154146852
>Not only is appealing to popularity

This isn't a debate. The shows you're pretending to be a fan of are mid.
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>>154146880
Sephiroth when he sees the Bleach verse
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>>154146956
Kek, based, canon.
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every time you post about how weak Goku is it just makes SuperKEK look worst because he CANONICALLY loses to him btw
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>>154147066
Can we see Superman losing to Goku on Death Battle?
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>>154147066
Everytime you post we all laugh at how mindbroken and retarded you are, JESTER.
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ROARtos. That is all.
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>>154147000
>Spawn effortlessly throwing Batman around without doing much even though he could easily kill Batman.
Yeah.
>Meaningless sentence.
Prove that you're right and I'll believe you.
>>154147022
>This isn't a debate.
Then, what is it?
>Mid.
Wrong. Saint Seiya is good, Sailor Moon is enjoyable, and I haven't watched Ultraman so IDK.
>>154147039
I think (multiversal) Seph loses to some characters due to hax and if not then he's punching down cowardly, but if you meam FF7 only then I don't see him winning.
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Goku can beat Sailor Moon and Gon you know
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>............
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>Gokeks mindbroken and RAPED by the KINGS again
Funny
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>>154147088
Being raped and humiliated endlessly is actually a good thing because it just gives my hero more MOUNTAINS to climb!
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>>154147113
>goKEK can beat little girls and literal infants you know
Yup yup!
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>open up death battle threads on other websites
>JJKeks are now arguing Jotaro has no win cons and that Yuta could copy time stop plus takes every stat

You'd have thought getting their verse stomped on by Denji would have humbled them a bit
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>>154147122
>"KING" in plural.
>Spawn is not in the picture.
>The KING's loyal knights instead of HIM.
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>Be a cuckold enthusiast
>Get entranced by a hero because I think he's a cuck like me
>He's actually a BVLL
you fucking LIED to me?!!?
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>>154147153
>Miss Piggy victim
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>>154145638
Superman, Superboy, and Alien X have
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>>154147177
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>>154147100
>>Spawn effortlessly throwing Batman around without doing much even though he could easily kill Batman.
So no proof he was holding back, just you making shit up and ignoring the actual narration.
>Meaningless sentence
Maybe if you don't speak English. "Vsbw is always wrong" is a pretty cold take if you actually ever read the comics with the characters, which you admitted you did not, so...
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>>154147122
>Neverwillbeindeathbattleman
>0-4perman
>FAGGOTPROJECTIONSWITHNOWAYOFBEATINGANYVERSIONOFGOKUnic
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>>154147178
>Superman, Superboy
name 1 time either of them did
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>>154147211
>low iq mindbreak
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>>154147144
They are desperate for a free win after losing twice in a row
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>>154147199
>No proof.
It's called common sense. I reached to a conclusion based on my observations.
>Narration.
You mean the one that doesn't say Spawn is trying to kill Batman?
>Didn't prove VSBW is wrong.
>STILL not even an attempt nor an excuse for proof.
Concession accepted.
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>Diofags keep losing to Alucard
>They have to pick on JJK now
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Ouch
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>>154147254
Nobody believes the alucope anymore, even normies accepted he is a fraudulent Regen merchant
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>>154147211
>>Neverwillbeindeathbattleman
COPIUM
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>>154146763
Spawn doesn't resist transmutation
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>>154147144
>>154147243
Yeah nah didn't they scale Jotaro to fucking like, relativistic when he was on against Kenshiro?
He murders Yuta.
(they used the same feat for relativistic Jotaro to make 1500x FTL Dio btw)
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>>154146306
Dragonkeks have always been way too cocky and pushy in the powerscaling community and people finally got sick of them. It's one thing if they just stick to late Z or Super or whatever, but when they go "HEH HEH ROSHI COULD SOLO YOUR SETTING" they get rightfully squashed.
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>>154146430
he comes back to life. happy now
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>>154146833
Bro if you are coping by pretending Sonicfags are one person, you need new cope.
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>>154147254
>Attempt to make people gang up on Alucard.
Sad.
>>154147274
I disagree, I still believe he should've won the Death Battle.
>>154147290
I think he does, he also stat stomps and outscales imo.
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>>154147173
yup that's Deku
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>>154147297
>"Yuta is actually city level through"
>INSERT CHAINSCALING TO OTHER CHARACTERS WANKED FEATS
>btw Jotaro is only building level and not town levels (his feats don't count because uhh anti feats)
>also Yuta resists everything but time stop

They're fucking delusional. They accept Jotaro is so much faster than Yuta that Jotaro could fuck Maki while also beating up Yuta but insist that the gap between city level and town level is so high that millions of Jotaro's punches would do nothing to him
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>>154147253
>It's called common sense. I reached to a conclusion based on my observations.
Aka made shit up and ignored what was actually shown on page
>You mean the one that doesn't say Spawn is trying to kill Batman?
The one that says that he's enraged, thinks Batman is a demon and that Batman is barely surviving the experience (no thanks to Spawn's efforts)
>Concession accepted
Go back to r*ddit
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In my verse we have one feat and our version of an upscale is just calcing it to increasingly higher levels
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>>154147274
I believe more in Alucard than I believe in fucking city level, 1500x ftl DIO
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>>154147382
JJKbro...
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>>154147374
sorcerers are harmed by normal fucking knives lol
without being able to put up their cursed energy to protect themselves, they die quick
time stop+ORA ORA ORA and any sorcerer is dead as fuck
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Just because we've never SEEN Jotaro or Dio punch a city to the ground or any character besides Made in Heaven that no one scales to moving at 1500x FTL...
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>>154146793
Anon saw /dbs/ raiding us and thought We liked Dragon Ball. Lol.
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>Jotaro town level and FTL
Retarded scaling like this is why powerscalers don't get taken seriously.
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https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Konoheisenbergda/Star_Platinum%E2%80%99s_Damage_Accumulation_with_Time_Stop
Rather recent but people still push for Country Level Jotaro/Dio off timestop barrages using the diamond teeth feat (7.4 tons) and the wanked Silver Chariot calc lmao
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>IS THAT A MILD SLAP ACROSS THE FACE? AIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE MY TOWN LEVEL DURABILITY CAN'T TAKE THAT. YARE YARE GAYZ YOU'LL SPLIT MY HEAD RIGHT IN HALF
>AT LEAST LET ME STOP TIME FOR 1-2 SECONDS SO I CAN RUN AWAY
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>>154147397
We've seen Jotaro use Star Platinum to suck up and blow away enough fog that it uncovered a large town

We've seen Yuta do uhhhh uhhhhh uhhhh kill a roach
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>>154147375
>Ignored what was shown on page.
Nothing in the pic proves me wrong.
Enraged≠bloodlusted.
>Batman barely surviving.
My point exactly.
>Go back to [SHITHOLE I'VE NEVER STEP IN]
It's okay, this is not a competition. You didn't actually lose anything, anon.
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>>154147465
Why did he randomly do that gay looney toons shit anyways
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>>154147144
CSMkeks would get stomped by JoJo too with how badly Swank wanks them.
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>>154147418
>Death Battle showed a massive amount of evidence that Star Platinum is FTL
>Erm, well. Then did this happen in the manga? Just another JJK win

This is how all you faggots argue
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>>154147447
isn't damage accumulation in time stop only a thing a single time?
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If you use the swanked storm calcs (Gigatons) with the swanked silver chariot calc (1500x FTL off a relativistic feat btw) with the swanked concept of time stop barrage damage cumulation Jotaro is around 10 Zettatons or Planetary lmao
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https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:CrossverseCrisis/The_Chronicles_of_JoJo:_Time_Stop_damage
>hundreds of Gigatons
Why did we let Jojofags get away with time stop barrage damage for so long
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Swank worships jojo and could not imagine that verse losing. It just shows how much of Death Battle's bias ruins power scaling because now people genuinely believe Dio outscales Alucard, Kratos outscales Asura and Superman outscales Goku because of death battle's piss poor research
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>>154147100
>Saint Seiya is good, Sailor Moon is enjoyable

They were really popular in late 80's and 90's just like Vanilla Ice and MC Hammer.
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>>154147529
>Superman outscales Goku
Bro thinks he's on the team
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>>154147447
>the diamond teeth feat (7.4 tons)
Fraudulent calc.
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Nobody cares. Sonic RAPES and GAPES Goku and his entire verse.
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>and Superman outscales Goku because of death battle's piss poor research
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Listtroon is so neurotic about Superman and his pilpul and conniving behavior so scummy I fully unironically believe he is a latinx mischling
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>>154147527
>2016
>vsbw had them at city-block then to building level for nearly 10 years
>"for so long"
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>>154147559
have you not seen his Reddit and Twitter? he is one and proud of it
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>>154147575
No I mean I believe he's also half Jewish
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>>154147533
That applies to DB and more other animes too, I don't see what that has to do with how good they are.
>>154147529
2 truths and a lie XD
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>>154147559
eat poop gayboy
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>>154147478
Because JJK is easily the gayest nushonen
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>PLEASE GOKU, I NEED THIS
>MY MOVIE KIND OF FLOPPED....
>DC IS ABOUT TO GO BANKRUPT...
>MY SON IS CANONICALLY GAY...
>THE STRONGEST VERSION OF ME IS ABOUT TO LOSE TO SENTRY...
>>
Do you hear that? I think it came from some small dog verse that caps at 12 universes
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ARF ARF ARF!
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>>154147456
Slaps are the ultimate 'pain' strikes.
Even Yujiro had to flex all the muscles in his body to disperse the damage of a single slap Baki gave him on his back.
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>>154147584
>That applies to DB and more other animes too

Dafuk are you talking about? The last new content for Saint Seiya was a decade ago, unless you count that terrible live-action movie.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6528290/, which cost 32 million to make and only earned 7 million at the box office. Words can't describe how dead that franchise is.
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>>154147529
Uh... was Swank not on the job when Joker btfo'd Giorno?
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>>154147498
I am not a jjk fag and I definitely believe Jotaro is winning but this scaling is still retarded
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>>154147674
Isn't the manga still going on?
The live action doesn't count btw.
>dead franchise
That may be, but still loved by me and other men who are fathers.
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>>154147682
GER's hax was placed at universal.
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>>154147682
Swan likes SMT a lot too.
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DBZ, the bratty free use free win onahole verse...
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>>154147717
>universal Jojo
jesus... didn't they ALSO use the same fucking Silver Chariot feat to make Giorno even more FTL than Dio?
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>>154147274
Dio squirting liquid out his eyes is not equal to the fucking Optic Blast. Positing that Dio that annihilate Alucard's entire army with that move is blatant lying.
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>>154147717
how can hax be universal? isn't ignoring stats the point of hax?
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>>154147786
NTA but I think it might be bc of its range?
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>>154147274
That was always obvious, without extra lives or familiars even Anderson is stronger
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>>154147846
Anderson was a supersoldier and Alucard is also like building level superhuman with level 1.
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>>154147786
Range and potency, kinda like when they argued the Infinity Gauntlet caps out at universal potency
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>>154147529
>It just shows how much of Death Battle's bias ruins power scaling because now people genuinely believe [TRVTH], [TRVTH] and [TRVTH]
Huh?
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>>154147497
CSM and JoJo's are allies in the gang raping of JJK. You will not separate us
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>>154145736
Why does it explode twice and expand implosively?
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>>154147922
Actually in that regard I do find it interesting VSBW thought it was inaccurate for a while, not because they thought Thanos had any chance of winning, but because the most likely scenario was a stalemate/draw by Thanos sealing the universe from Darkseid entirely. I guess in that regard Thanos vs Darkseid is an oddball in that the winner took the plurality (there are no scenarios in which Thanos wins but most of the time it ends in a draw) of outcomes rather than the majority
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>>154147284
I guess we're 100% also getting Oguri Cap vs Goku
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>>154147284
Scp-682 vs Doomsday also appeared there
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>>154147889
I don't mean that fight where he fodderized alucard. A fully unlocked alucard fighting one on one without his extra lives and families would still lose.
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>>154148021
*familiars
I am phoneposting
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>>154146004
Speaking on OmniVader, it entirely depends on if you think Viltrumites have weaker innards or not.
Based on Mohawk Mark dying to grenade in the gullet, I would think a Force Choke could be lethal to Nolan.
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>>154148021
Level zero is made to speedrun killing armies for efficiency so obviously it's not made to be used on 1v1 but even then he can just undo it.
>>154148037
Huh, me too.
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>>154148028
Not even a good example since he is massively holding back here
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>>154148028
WINDOWS COULD POSSIBLY SHAKE AT THIS
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>>154147933
Post Kratos destroying a mountain.
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In other news, VSBW now has Heroes Goku at the same dimensional tier as Archie Sonic
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>>154147456
>tfw crying your eyes out is actually one of the best fighting strategies out there.
The Japanese sure know how to make things interesting
>>
Has worm ever appeared on ballot banters?
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>>154147144
So basically JJK is trying to smurf for free wins?
What are they MHA?
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>>154147975
GER gapes your whole fodder verse, sissy. Don't try to lump yourself in with JoJo.
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>>154148068
WINDOWS?!
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>>154148060
The only difference between 1 and 0 is that he is using his trapped souls/familiars which I am excluding anyways alongside his extra lives. Aside from that Alucard level 1 and 0 is the same, he isn't any less capable in 0 than 1, he just doesn't have extra lives to fall back on.
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>>154148101
TANKED that like a true Denji-chad
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>>154147007
Well you can't even really get to those points in any reasonable sense.
Powerscalers just make stuff up for what dimensional tiering means.
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>>154147144
I actually wouldn’t mind this matchup, but I wouldn’t be excited, either they pity win JJK by saying Yuta and say he tanks and outstats or they have Jotaro time stop+speedblitz ggz and piss off JJK fans for a 2nd time
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Regarding Stands, wouldn’t they count as positive energy so SP fucks up Rika? They’re made of willpower which is pretty positive
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Sukuna vs Muzan is already JJK's pity win. CSM is due for another gaping by MHA or Jojo.
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>>154148127
No news to headcanon shit like this when all Jotaro needs to do is freeze time and smash Yutas head in.
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>>154148116
Hmmm I'm not so sure about that, I think he is stronger in level 1 and at weakest at level zero (maybe not as weak as base Alucard but that's debatable).
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>>154148127
Verse Equalization is just kinda a scam.
There's a lot of subjectivity at play, so both sides can realistically interpret it in a way that favors them.
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>>154148081
He will in his dead wife's game! Trust the plan!
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>>154148082
Two Frauds on the same tier?! Madness!
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Sanity rules: Yuta one shots Jotaro who is wall level.

However, I don't like Yuta since he is a shitty Gary Stu, so I am fine with DB wank Jotaro one shotting him.
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>>154148082
Noice
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>>154148082
We shouldn't cede ground to VSBW.
Their system is inadequate for the fictions that they analyze.
Also their dimensional and cosmological tiering systems don't make mathematical sense.
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I love waiting periods for literal who matchups
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>>154148081
Easy!
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>>154148062
And also half dead.
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>>154148153
Levels are literally just artificial power restrictions placed upon him, it makes zero sense for him to be weaker in 0 than 1 if you exclude the fact that he is making himself more vulnerable by releasing all the souls.
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>>154148201
>Kratos standing next to someone destroying a planet
powerful
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>>154148183
You talk like the tour de fource faggot
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Reminder Sonic RAPES and GAPES Goku and his entire verse
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>>154148127
Wait, does that mean the Care Bears beat any Curse?
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>>154144920
fagku...
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>>154148228
I don't know what that is.
I am just tired of VSBW's bad math and physics.
Most of their rulings might as well be arbitrary fiats.
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Been a while since I did this. Who wins? Billy Butcher vs Stain.
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>>154148285
Stain has AFO scaling apparently
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>>154147144
>completely random matchup with like a single connection
>seemingly built to piss off JJKfags and Jojofags
>Yuta has like a billion abilities + a sword + a powerup/transformation that Jotaro can't meaningfully play off at all, animation would likely be shit
>Jotaro obviously rapestomps thanks to DB wanked stats for Jojo despite the fact he visually fights on a way smaller scale than Yuta, so you'd likely piss off lore vs featsfags again
>it will be picked over actually thematic or fitting matchups for either character solely because it's brownoid engagement ragebait
The funny thing is that /dbg/ falls for it hook line and sinker even though it was specifically designed by Swan for this exact purpose
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>>154148226
Idk how levels of Alucard work in Hellsing (I don't remember if they explained them in the anime) but I'd say more vulnerable=weaker and I remember him changing from 0 to base when fighting Anderson so maybe there isn't any stats amplification?
>>154148183
>>154148270
NTA but I disagree.
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>>154146306
Hi
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>>154148227
That someone is his future self.
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>>154146306
95% of Dragonball shit is multiplier wank on otherwise cosmetic and meaningless transformations.

I don't get how people can find that enjoyable.
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>>154148305
Why do you disagree?
I myself prefer the preVSBW era when calcs weren't automatically attached to every character profile.
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>>154147550
that's an adult pedonic fag
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>>154148352
I don't really see multipliers mentioned outside of early Z.
Which is probably because power levels stopped existing around the time Goku arrived on Namek.
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>>154148354
Because you gave statements without proof and assumed fiction has to make sense on the ideal/logical/imaginary level, much less the real one.
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>>154148305
>say more vulnerable=weaker
Bro everything I am saying is based on tla theoretical Alucard with no extra lives, so he isn't any more vulnerable/weaker
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>>154148285
>who wins? wall level jobber or guy who can fight MHA pro heroes and win
Gee, I wonder.
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>>154148377
Multipliers is why DBFags screech that Bardock should beat Omniman.

And they try to keep powerlevels alive despite them deliberately being introduced to be a worthless concept.
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>>154148388
I can't understand what you are trying to say, would you please explain?
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>>154148285
>>154148294
>>154148391
Butcher wins through Diabolical scaling which anyone trying to have genuine discussion will give, especially when comparing an anime/manga with live action. Stain is strong but Butcher should be able to rip him apart with his tentacles
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>>154148298
So what is Yuta's best matchup? They could do picrel next year or so since Nero vs Geats forced DB to look into Fate.
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>>154148446
Asa?
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>>154148381
Oh I think we already spoke.
I don't think fiction makes sense most of the time.
It very much isn't deterministic, so previous events in the narrative rarely mean that future events follow because of math or science.
I suppose that's part of the reason I find VSBW to be annoying, because it treats fiction as if it is deterministic.
I think having a systemized approach (especially one rooted in bad applications of math and physics concepts) creates a lot of this glazing and agenda based culture.
No one really wants to learn about characters or their media, they just want to use them as a cudgel against or for media they already know.
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>>154148415
Anderson would beat a fully unleashed Alucard if they fought 1v1, and I am working under the logic that Alucards abilities are as strong as ever outside of him lacking extra lives.
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>pokefags got toys r us scaling
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>>154148081
Post CVCKY BARDOCK destroying a mountain.
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>>154148392
Well it wasn't that they are worthless, it is that they are accurate, but never tell the full story.
And it makes sense that they get used for Bardock because that's that Early Z era where we still get power levels enough to try and draw some conclusions.
The issue is that they were never a stable system to pull from like if you compare the gaps between Vegeta and the Frieza Force members he fights with, the ratios don't make sense for how much he wins or loses.
It is very much a case where 'ought to be' is the best that can be worked with.
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>>154148463
I wholeheartedly believe power scaling doesn't have a reason to exist unless someone manages to successfully apply it to write a story and make it better than what it would've been without power scaling.
>>154148470
Didn't the fight you're talking about quite literally happened in the manga/anime/ova and against a magically amped monster Anderson or something and yet Anderson lost? I remember something like that.
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>>154148446
I've seen Yuta vs Guren Ichinose from Seraph of the End floating around and it seems like his best match by far (swordsmen from urban dark fantasy series about fighting demons who are possessed by their former lovers), but nu-DBfags would probably just consider him a literal who
He apparently also has a Kamen Rider matchup that's not very good, and Percy Jackson for some reason. Any of them sound better than Jotaro though.
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>>154148446
>Yuta gets raped
>Yuta gets ultimate raped if they gave Shirou Saber
I'd love to see JJK have 3 losses in a row
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>>154148535
Every transoformation in DBZ is also featless. I've yet to see proof that Super Sayain is 50x more powerful than base other than "he turned gold now he can beat the guy"
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>>154148446
Yuta vs Cloak & Dagger?
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>>154148092
It's funny because they thought it'd be a free win until they remembered Jotaro is practically infinite speed to Yuta and also has time stop so Jotaro can rape him before Yuta can do anything

JJKeks have small dog syndrome
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>>154148475
>Toys R Us event
>When these events are considered canon and is just used as supplement evidence that Red scales to the creation trio (which he already did by catching Mewtwo and raping the Sun and Moon protagonists)

Sad for Digicels. Their one death battle win was revoked
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>please do Goku vs Superman 4
>please do Red vs Tai 2
Heartwarming, the raped enters back into the fray to get raped once more
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>>154148377
>I don't really see multipliers mentioned outside of early Z.

You mean power levels aren't stated after the Frieza sagas? Multipliers still exist in Super and GT. Like with Blue Kaioken and Super Kamehameha X 10, etc., fusions have multipliers; these multipliers mostly come from the guidebooks.

>Multipliers is why DBFags screech that Bardock should beat Omniman.

Multipliers never left the series they mention in Super anime, GT, and the Buu saga. Why should people ignore them

>And they try to keep powerlevels alive despite them deliberately being introduced to be a worthless concept.
That would make sense if Bardock came from an era where power levels had already been abandoned, but he doesn't. Bardock is a Namek-era character with official power levels and multipliers, even if we ignore the proper context and basic scaling. Comic Omni-Man has no business beating anyone stronger than Jackie Chan, because his feats are super shitty unless you intentionally miscalculate them.
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>>154148608
Post proof mewtwo is creation trio level.
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>>154148556
>transoformation
Learn to write first faggot
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>>154148608
Mewtwo has never fought the Creation Trio and I RAPED Red with zero effort when I played USUM years ago
Are Pokefags admitting to sucking dick at kids' games that actively handhold you to try and get themselves a win in vs matches? KWAB
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>>154148626
Power levels even appeared again in the granolah saga these faggots really like to make up headcanons
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>>154148628
3 of the Creation Trio created a universe.
1 Mewtwo created a universe.
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>>154148539
Anderson with the nail is a shell on himself so it's not really a comparable situation, sure he is stronger but he lacks any tactical thought whatsoever since he turned himself into a monster. Alucard himself believed that human Anderson much like Abraham could defeat him if he leveled the playing field by making himself vulnerable.
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>>154148539
I think that's fair.
A majority of power scaling presents itself as being equivalent to maintaining a suspension of disbelief inside a fiction, but it is honestly the wrong term.
I think there is a real thing to wanting fiction where conflict is resolved via combat/exercises of ability to not feel arbitrary.
But I don't think that feeling is power scaling as much as it is a hybrid of things like making things feel... like they make sense.
Sometimes it is about the story structures rewarding the growth and efforts of a character.
Sometimes it is about making a character feel dominant.
But it isn't ever a case where there are hard rules for 'X is Y strong, so X should be capable of this.'
Sometimes authors will take these steps in a shallow sense, like making some characters feel comparable to one another, but it never gets down to a point where fiat can't be an option.
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How exactly do powerlevels and multipliers work in dragonball.
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>>154148673
When in the games did Mewtwo create a universe?
Is his universe also building level
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>>154148713
Pokken Torunament
His universe had stars and galaxies in the background and was created onscreen
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Just because we've never SEEN Jotaro destroy an entire country or city in his timestop or move 25000x FTL...
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>>154148648
>He thinks he won
Sorry, retard. Pokemon Masters confirms you fucking to lost to CHAD Red because he's still the strongest trainer in existence
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>>154148703
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what losing to yugi does to a guy.
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>>154148680
Okay but I remember Alucard did beat a much stronger monster form Anderson while in base or level 1.
>>154148683
Long story: Nobody gived a fuck about power scaling, story writers only care about writing a story.
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>>154148743
>Red is the strongest trainer in existence
>I beat him without taking damage in HGSS
>I beat him without taking damage in BW2
>I beat him without taking damage in Gen 7
>b-but the shitty phone game s-says he's da s-stwongest..
KEKAROO! Pokefag, it's okay to admit you suck at kids' games.
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>main character jobs to the same guy 3 times in a row
>his rival is given a pity win early on only to get gigastomped against a capeshit herald
>villains are constantly fed to joke characters or to prop up objectively weaker verses ("my guy beat a dragon ball character!")
/dbs/ have a chip on their shoulders
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>>154144643
Hiding in fear from Cid Kagenoh just like their hero
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKUq3sGX7fk
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>>154148795
>In all those games, you were raped off screen multiple times and you still bragged about it
Yeowch. Sad to see it
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>>154146671
Makes sense, they’ve only ever won popularity contests.
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>>154148784
He did yeah but outside of being physically more powerful it's questionable if he was a better match for Alucard in that form. Alucard himself believed Anderson could have only beaten him if he stayed human and used what made humans powerful, his ingenuity.
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>>154148795
You may have beaten Red, but you could never get /ss/-hagwife like he did so can you say you truly won?
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>>154148849
I understand though I still don't know if there is conclusive evidence that there is a difference in power between Alucard's levels. I remember something about that only men can kill monsters because of their will or something?
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>>154148795
You know I just realized. All this talk about how Red is "narratively" supposed to be the strongest or above the creation trio, doesn't the fact that all the Pokemon games are so easy mean that everybody in Pokemon is narratively supposed to be weak?
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>>154148900
CYNTHIA PLEASE SHARE SOME SCALING WITH MEEEE
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hahaha anyone remember this? good times lol.

All just some good banter. I know someone might see it as disrpectful but they were just playing around back then haha..
Could you imagine someone getting mad at this joke haha
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Besides asura, shakara has any other matchups?
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The weakest...
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>>154148703
>>154148754
1.) Bigger number means stronger.
2.) Multiplier means multiply the number

That's literally it.
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>>154148931
Cynthia and Red are both pathetic jobbers but what else would you expect when the creator god of Pokemon-universe canonically jobbed to human cock?
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The STRONGEST of the WEAK
The WEAKEST of the STRONG
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>>154148683
Though I still partake in power scaling because we need to make things make sense in order to give a reason to care about fiction or else it being absurd and meaningless makes it nonsensical and no reason to care about it in the first place.
>>154148940
Digimontos vs Pokesura lmao.
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>>154148900
Damn you’re right
That’s how you truly Win
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>>154148981
>Digimontos vs Pokesura
this implies Pokemon should of won
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>can communicate with a literal infinite number of herself in other parallel worlds
>any information or power the ones in parallel worlds has, she also instantly gains that as well
can your 'hero' beat infinite schizophrenia?
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>>154148966
I still don't get it
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>>154148988
Didn't think about it, just meant "virgin vs chad" (chad vs virgin in this case) in DB terms.
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>>154148966
Direct numbers are retarded and will never work unless the author is extremely autistic. Good old cultivation levels solve that problem by being much more vague about how much stronger each level is from the previous one.
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>>154148914
Red has the highest level Pokemon in any Pokemon game. By gameplay rules, he's the strongest
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>>154148955
Killy from Blame
V1 from Ultrakill
Hank from Madness Combat
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>>154148900
Isn't Red like 16 in Masters?
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>>154149058
I can catch level 100 Magikarp in DPPt that do literally zero damage, do they no diff the creation trio
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TOONTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOS!
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>>154149036
"virgin vs chad"
So if Kratos is the chad?
Does this mean Chads are MMIWG2SLGBTQQIA+ allies too?
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>>154149065
Arent the last two stomps in shakara's favor?
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>>154149086
According to DB (Wiz and Boomstick) and /dbg/ (ironic shit posting)...yes.
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>>154149102
Shakara beats the shit out of V1 but Hank is like outerversal or some shit
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>>154149069
Level 100 Magikarp isn't canon because if it was, everyone in Pokemon would rape Digimon. Sorry
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>>154149046
>Direct numbers are retarded and will never work unless the author is extremely autistic

So, in other words, they work fine as long as the viewer isn't an extremely autistic asswipe that expects it to line up with real-world science and their fan calculations.
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I found a random blog that said I won.
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>>154149117
NTA but none of this shit is remotely believable. I abhor power scaling.
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>>154149111
>Real chads are gay frauds.

Based
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>>154149150
JJKbro...
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>>154149142
Fans will do that no matter what and inconsistencies can be avoided by just not using numbers. Some inconsistencies can become so obvious that you don't need to be a powerscaling autist to notice them as well.
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>>154149161
...is the opposite of that.
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Why is it Dr. Strange vs Reimu instead of Dr. Fate vs Reimu? If it is because Fate is stronger than Strange, isn't that admitting that Reimu loses to Strange?
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What will her power level be once she tanks a retcon dicking from Prime
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>>154149210
Cucks don’t get to dick, they got BVLLS for that
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>>154149202
because pinning touhou against DC is a death sentence
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>>154149222
For whom? By the sounds of that, it sounds like Touhou would be massacred.
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>>154149221
Prime is the ultimate BVLL
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>>154149210
What a random pairing, but nice work, kiddo.
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>>154149242
For /dbg/
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>>154149253
Okay.
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>>154149222
Than and DCfags genuinely believe Kyle was robbed, even though Kyle has never done anything above galaxy level, while Simon created big bangs and used galaxies as throwing stars. So they'll never admit to an L partly cuz DeathBattle has done nothing but inflate their egos.
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>>154149252
They needed to find a virgin trad gf for prime and you won't find one while looking at any mainstream heroines. Every single one fo them has been through the block. Redheads with fire powers also seem to have a thing for him.
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Ultraman Taro is funny as shit because what do you meant Taro and ZAT killed two kaijus and turned them into meals.
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>>154149298
NTA but besides the Simon downplaying I half agree.
Also, are you implying Dr. Fate loses?
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>>154149202
Because We would find out that Fate is weaker than Strange. The shitposting would be into lerable.
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>>154149298
Simon never created big bangs.
His enemy the Anti Spiral created one, and that would have oneshot killed Simon. So his ally Lord Genome savrificed himself to absorb it for Simon and give him that power
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>>154149202
Fate doesn't have many connections with Reimu while Strange does.
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>>154149299
>trad
>witch celebrity
Mary Marvel is right there. Hell, Supergirl isn't even his cousin.
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>>154149299
They certainly are standing next to eachother.
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>>154149250
That’s CHADDY KENNY, the ARYAN BVLL currently excavating all of Laurie’s holes in College
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>>154149411
https://youtube.com/shorts/wRlNOrHwjzE?si=d1oxHbSvdxF3pHaZ
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>>154149411
Do you think he spitroasts Laurie with that Black guy?
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>>154149427
Only on Prime’s bed. In College she slobbers his Cock only
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>>154149444
Damn those TRIPS of TRVTH
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KIIIIIINNNGGGGGTTTTTTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSSSS
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And that's yet another thread won by Sonic the Hedgehog!
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>>154149202
Probably because even KirbonicPikmin couldn't wank Reimu into not getting her verse immediately oneshotted by Dr. Fate
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>>154149411
>>154149427
Favorite death battle episode?
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>>154149482
Krasura
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>>154149482
Yugi vs Ash, why do you ask?
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>>154149460
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>>154148784
Effectively yes, sometimes writing a good story means caring about characters being believably powerful in comparison with one another. It rarely has anything to do with physical feats (unless you put a lot of emphasis on spectacle and naming values, but that's writing yourself into a corner).
>>154148981
I think I agree to a point. Powerscaling as it is performed is a form of literary analysis.
As a form of literary analysis, it is a tool we can use to critique a work along a set of ideals.
And as a form of literary analysis, there are different schools of thought regarding quality and viability of evidences.
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>>154149384
>Supergirl
Bro supergirl hasn't just been around the block, she is the block. Her bedroom may as well have a revolving door.
>Mary
Actually a decent pairing, but didn't one version of Superboy have a crush on her at some point. Not sure if Prime would hate that or love the opportunity to get something Conner couldn't.
Her romantic past also isn't as squeaky clean as Wirchfires even having some weird stuff with Black Adam.
I still genuinely believe they are a good pairing though. But it's probably for the best if his partner is an irrelevant character, less chance for any writer to mess it up because they want to use her for something else.
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>>154149501
Ash would have won if he had all his Pokémon.
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Are there any unordinary vs worm matchups?
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>>154149482
Silver vs Trunks, of course!
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"The problem with Yugash is that they didn't have Slifer solo every single Legendary and Ultra Beast at once"
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>>154149588
>unordinary
Didn't expect to see that name here, how would you even make Johns ability work in an hour of universe match up?
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