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Again, how did she find out Mike had any involvement in her attempt at suicide?It could've only been due to Lucy herself talking or Augustus.
>>154146151>the boy at that schoolwait wtf, is she just dropping a new arch that happened in the past!?
>>154146151>>154146163>Lucy latched onto *another* boy while away at the other schoolThat would be both very in-character and make the family triple-retarded for taking in Augustus on Lucy's word alone.
>>154146151So, let's digest this slowly>Augustus actually informed everyone at home of Mike's exile, they're all ok with itBravo Taeshi, even the adults are incompetently written as needed>"Check again" implies Mike's family is also in on it and both are ok with itI guess that's to be expected, can leave Mike with any kind of support network, Lucy needs them more>You're not still upset about that boy at that school are you?And here is the so called backstory, I'm going to take a guess and she got yet another teddy bear at the other school and the story has been rewritten so that Lucy didn't come here on her own volition but was either running away from something that happened or her parents pulled her from it>I can handle it, is allLOL. LMAO
>>154146151Hey Lucy's mom, the longer you go without treating your daughter like the crazy whore she is the worse she's gonna get.Imagine her in a childless, co-dependent relationship with the only guy lame enough to tolerate her crazy ass at 40 with dozens of imaginary pet cats to fill the void. Does that sound nice?
>>154146329Paid only comic where her Lucy menitoned Mike was her problem or something and the only way she found to keep Lucy from continuing her tantrum was to promise to share embarrassing Mike stories her mom had confided to her as best friends with Lucy. So she's not outside of the Mike hate train as long as it keeps her moody teenager from scratching the furniture
>>154146151>about the boy at that schoollmao holy shit did she go parasite mode on some other random guy during the time she was away?
>>154146458I'm gonna headcanon he's a total chad who knew the bitch was crazy so pumped and dumped her after making sure everyone knew she was crazy so no one would take her side.
>>154146151>The "Lucy suffering" is going to be retroactive I KNEW IT, I KNEW IT, I SO FUCKING KNEW IT
>>154146151>>154146163>Lucy pulled the teddy bear routine at the other schoolSay it with me now:Mike was right.
Oh no, the abuser suffered so much! Don't you feel bad for the violent crybully? She needs more asspats and rimjobs stat!
>>154146488Nah, Lucy seems angry (more than usual) at her mom, I'm going more for her family being wary of her obsessive streak (now of all times and until Augustus is back) and sabotaging her attempts at it because SHE JUST TRIED TO KILL HERSELF ABOUT THE LAST ONE HOLY FUCK
>>154146492Everybody fucking knew it but was hoping Taeshi would show some fucking balance for once. This bitch is such a hack holy shit.
>>154146458But in a very sympathetic way that makes you feel sorry for Lucy. It wasn't her fault--the other boy manipulated her into it by being too nice!
>>154146628>he is a different shade of grey catWould be hilarious
>>154146151We going the One Piece route ladies and gentlemen. THAT MAN from THAT PLACE caused THAT INCIDENTSomeone fucking smash my toes with a hammer
>>154146151I called it. They're all gonna celebrate and pop the champagne when Mike bites the dust and Ellen divorces her worthless ass husband. At least Sam will, grown ass man hatin on Mike since he was a middle-schooler btw
>>154146151Why did Lucy's mom have to separate her daughter from her new boyfriend Alejandro? They were so happy together.
>>154146701He was distracting Lucy too much from earning her keep. She's the breadwinner after all, what with her being the only daughter of the family.
>>154146151>what's up with this bitchIt's like a fucking quantum superposition, it's indeterminate until you collapse the waveform.>Is she sad cause Mike called her a parasite>Is she twaumatized from a years ago mugging>Is she suicidal?No she's REALLY assblasted because her mom seperated her from Liam Reboundcock!
>>154146874You don't get it anon, all Lucy does all day and all her life is suffer, so you should be more gentle and look the other way whenever she acts like a cunt because the need for balance says she's earned it
Lucy's life is hard everyone wants to fuck her.
Shit sucks man. Taeshi always, and I mean ALWAYS finds a way to make the worst stuff possible.>haha dw guys, it's lucy's turn to suffer next!!It matters nothing if it's just a fucking past event. Unless it somehow comes to haunt her NOW, it has zero consequences, she has already moved past it.God I swear, this story will do anything in its power to make Lucy completely immune to consequence and harm and only focus on Mike, it's disgusting.
>>154146943She always finds new ways to disappoint me. It's a lesson on how you should stay with your abuser, after all.
>>154146943This is going to be another flashback chapter that makes things worse for the titular character rather than give a satisfying explanation, just like how Sandy's phonecall didn't address the fear Mike had of another suicide on his hands or how the chapter made to give Paulo a reason to be angry at Daisy only made him look like a bitchy resentful drama queen
>>154146329>>154146440She's definitely soured on Mike since the book-only chapter, where she verbally hoped Lucy and Mike could make up. Which was very stupid if she knew that Mike had been involved in Lucy trying to off herself. Regardless, what's now happening only makes sense if Augustus and/or Lucy told the mom about Mike's promise to stay away and, by extension, his motive for doing so. I'm sure that neither of them would have painted a very sympathetic picture of scarf cat's involvement. What really gets me is the implication that Mike's mom has somehow been roped into keeping tabs on the designated problem cat, something we have seen absolutely no evidence of happening. Far from it--the mom openly fawns over Mike and calls him her golden boy. So you'd think Lucy's mom asking/telling her to keep said golden boy on a tight leash would spark one hell of a catfight between the two. Of course the opposite will happen as the Lucyspace bubble continues to expand. Either it will be justified in the dumbest, least convincing way possible or else just happen and then get an offhand bullshit explanation in a blog post.
>>154147025Honestly. I would've been satisfied if we had an honest to God Mucy chapter. I don't know how at this point, but give us SOMETHING to make us root for Mucy for fuck's sakes.
>>154146151I thought we were told that Lucy's surly attitude was just a mask hiding her inner sunny laid back disposition. But her pissy anger looks pretty earnest to me. Less so her concern over the brother and pet rapist.
>>154146985>It's a lesson on how you should stay with your abuser, after allWorse, it's that your abusive bully actually had good reason to act like a complete asshole and so deserves your sympathy and unconditional forgiveness while you grow up enough to enjoy their antics.
>>154147098I wouldnt be surprised is Grey Mom knows Lucy is a turbo cunt and doesnt care to bother Mike further about the whole thing outside of him being the one managing the house when she is gone
>>154147025>just like how Sandy's phonecall didn't address the fear Mike had of another suicide on his handsTo my knowledge, Taeshi has never pushed this idea. It was a logical headcanon that filled the void left by her own unsatisfying and vague explanations.
>>154147109I just cant see a satisfying Mucy chapter happening even if an attempt was made. That well has been poisoned thrice over and it looks like its only going to get worse.
>>154146917No, Lucy's problem is that NOT everyone wants to fuck her. Lucy's fondness for others is directly proportional to how much they want to fuck her:>likes Paulo a lot (he wants to fuck her and she can use that to manipulate him)>likes David a lot (groped her several times and calls her "Lucy-baby")>is ostensibly besties with Augustus but also trying super hard to push him away (claims to not love her "that way" but Taeshi is apparently waffling on that)>has a weird obsessive love/hate with Mike (who both does and doesn't want to fuck her)>disdainful of Abbey (doesn't want to fuck her)>disdainful of all girls (Lucy is straight and cannot conceive of same-sex friendships that aren't rivalries)
I can't wait to see how Lucy treated this mystery boy like she loved him in a way she's never done with Mike, just like with Augustus and Paulo But it won't mean anything because muh true love
>>154147098I believe the reason she was so eager for Lucy and Mike to patch things up in that chapter is because he was the designated handler, and now that it's Augustus they can push him aside
>>154147190I mean that's what Mike told Augustus when he came asking for an explanation and to keep away from Lucy, the fact he never brought it up with her tells you how little it mattered to Taeshi anyway
>>154147224I just hope he no way fags her with (Not) Sandy lookalike
>>154147109We got that, it was called Another Flame and it sucked. People who just want the two back together in some capacity loved it while everyone who remembers exactly why their friendship fell apart in the first place pointed out that none of those problems had been solved. Alternate Mike and Lucy were just sweeping problems under the rug with lip service. No, an actual Mucy chapter could not happen until the dynamic Taeshi established upon Lucy's return was altered. At the very least, Mike would need enough spinal surgery to push Lucy away when she gets too needy or self-destructive because responsibility and accountability are permanently outsourced to everyone else around her. So, ironically, now is the best time in a good long while for a "Mucy chapter" to happen, even if it's just a deadened Mike listening while Lucy peddles her usual bullshit and then turns her down. Because while that's a far cry from any actual foundation for a renewed friendship, it's at least a napkin with a rough approximation of the proper measurements doodled on it.
>>154147169inb4 dogisaga but instead of shitposting the comics are meant to be taken as literal advice thats what BCB has become
>>154147224Oh man yeah, Taeshi just loves showing how anyone would be better than Mike to shit on him and then getting angry when people ask "why doesn't she move on then" because they JUST DONT GET IT
>>154147169It's genuinely a lesson on how you should take your beatings for the sake of your abuser and group (eastern morality) and how you should stay with and love your abuser (Abraham would be considered a great person by the author)
>>154146405I know this comic is trash, and we shouldn't spend any time looking deeply into anything. But I'm bored.>Augustus actually informed everyone at home of Mike's exile, they're all ok with itYeah, that's kinda fucked.>"Check again" implies Mike's family is also in on it and both are ok with itEither that or Lucy's mom is gathering intel on Mike's condition and confirming whether what Lucy is saying about him staying away is true. But hasn't disclosed to Ellen (Mike's mom) that Lucy blames Mike for her suicide attempt.Given how the last interaction between Mike and his mom went and thinking back to the conversation between the moms after Mike/Lucy's karate class...I get the impression that his family knows something went down between them but doesn't have the full story. Which means that whenever Lucy's mom is checking in on things, she's putting on an act and continuing to lead Ellen on in thinking their friends which is also fucked.>You're not still upset about that boy at that school are you?When I first read the page, I thought she was talking about Mike. But I think you're right and something ELSE went down with a DIFFERENT boy at the other school. This alludes to a possibly reason as to why Lucy returned when she clearly shouldn't have.Which is still one of the most fucked up things about all of this. Lucy is the one with the dependency issues and inability to regulate or control her emotions to the point that her solution to Mike apologizing for Decembering her and wanting to try to make things right again was to kill herself - because he still wouldn't breakup with Sandy to be with her. Yet Mike's the one that needs to suffer and stay away when it was her parents who made the idiotic decision to send her back to the same school despite everything. I guess Roseville is a small enough town to only have one high school, but homeschooling is a thing even in the early-2000s.>I can handle it, is allI second the LOL
Also this needs a Lucy edit or better yet shooping in Tae's face instead kek
>>154147180That would be too logical and refreshing for BCB. Imagine a parent feeling skeptical toward hearsay demonization of their child and not holding him accountable for the mental state of their friend's spoiled unstable daughter.
>>154147293From what I recall, what Mike went on about wasn't the possibility of Sandy offing herself but rather sunk cost fallacy. Plus he admitted to not actually believing Sandy so any excuses don't really matter.
>>154147255Lucy had to get her use-and-discard tendencies and the associated favoritism from one of the parents, I suppose.
>>154147120Like I said last thread, I think Taeshi has somehow inverted the definition of "masking" in her head. She seems to think the persona one has in public is one's "true self", while "masking" is the persona one has in private or when one's self-control slips. So Taeshi thinks Lucy's "true self" is a fun and playfully sarcastic girl who everyone likes, while her yelling about how she hates everyone and talking in private about how much they suck is just her "masking". Similarly, she seems to think Mike's "true self" is a hair-trigger moron who will jump to violence if people say the wrong word, while being quietly depressed and nice is his "mask".
>>154147340>something ELSE went down with a DIFFERENT boy at the other school. This alludes to a possibly reason as to why Lucy returned when she clearly shouldn't have.And then her parents immediately let her latch onto another boy who they knew nothing about outside of Lucy's highly biased words, became a legal adult within the next two months, and was offered free room and board with no questions asked. Lucy's parents are actually too stupid to live and my headcanon is that her father is a collateral damage inflicting maniac out on the racetrack.
>>154147422Maybe Taeshi just believes whatever she wants at any given moment, damn the evidence or even basic continuity of events. A completely subjective reality catering to the whims of an all-powerful yet incredibly stupid and lazy deity.
>>154147471I hate to play defense for the whitecats but this is just a case of Taeshi making shit up that doesn't align with the rest of the comic and she said as much about how she had just come up with a story for the 9 months she was away because "she had no idea", so it's more a case of Taeshi's incompetence and you can expect a blog post about it within the week when someone else brings up the inconsistency
>>154147471Lucy has literally nothing going on in her life except sniffing around for guys. Taeshi's seriously going to expect us to take it seriously that Lucy's heart broken over Literally Who when she's been acting like an absolute skank ever since she came back>plays with Paulo's feelings (multiple times)>has Augustus move in and babysit her so she can creep on him despite him categorically saying he's not into her>shoving her tongue down Mike's throat just because he said a thing about a scarf that he hasn't worn in years (which she blew her nose with) and then kicks him in the gut and dumps all her emotional instability on him because him not dating her is her primal wound I guess???
>>154147422Someone ask her what Lucy's mom would think if she found out Augustus tried to manipulate and rape Daisy.
>>154147523No, I'm sorry, but there is zero reason to give any of these characters the benefit of the doubt anymore. Not after they have devolved into Taeshi's interchangable little puppets that will say or do whatever she pleases. I will absolutely judge them by the logical implications that Taeshi was too stupid and/or lazy to account for in her clumsy power fantasy.>>154147531Lucy's problems are all self-inflicted and I'm tired of all the pity begging Taeshi does on her behalf. Of course the parents are ultimately to blame for raising her to be this way and never getting her any actual effective help.
>>154147573But it was so sympathetic and understandable! That young teenage girl was just asking for it, and she definitely would have enjoyed the not-rape escalating yet further! How much praise must be heaped upon his head before you realize that Augustus good?!
>>154147573It doesn't matter anon. Everything ALWAYS works in favor of Taeshi's favorites, no matter how absurd.She'd just say something along the lines of 'oh you poor baby, you were just a kid that didn't know any better' or some such.
>>154147471inb4 her mom overreacted and forced this guy to cut contact with Lucy and stopped a perfectly nice boy Lucy's age from getting close to her lonely daughter.now she is le evil bitch for being too protective of Lucy who lost her chance at having a normal, healthy friendship/relationship.
>>154147646>"You've grown up so much since then and shouldn't be so hard on yourself! Daisy would be so lucky to have someone like you!"
>>154147604If Taeshi would be self aware about it Lucy's parents would actually be incredibly realistic:>Dad is career focused and absent.>Mom doesn't want to face her fuck-ups and so blames Lucy's insanity on everyone else>Doesn't chastise or try to control her because Lucy's tantrums are difficult to deal with.>This is why Lucy thought it was ok to just hit people for years, because to her mom "it's just a shot in the thigh! Who cares, she's only little she can't hurt anyone!">>154147646I know but some part of her has to always be going "fuck I wish I didn't write my precious emo cat doing such a thing" while scrambling to pretend he didn't in the face of people who clearly won't overlook her rape apologia.
>>154146405>Augustus actually informed everyone at home of Mike's exile, they're all ok with it>"Check again" implies Mike's family is also in on it and both are ok with itTo play the role of the hopeful moron who will immediately be proven wrong when Taeshi confirms the least-charitable interpretation by going "lol yeah that's what happened", it's possible that Lucy's mother "checking in with Ellen" is them sharing notes on preventing their children from mutually annihilating. Miz Whitecat may know that Lucy derives her joy from bullying Mike, and thus take Lucy coming home in a good mood as a warning sign to check that her best friend's son is still alive. Hence her going "No Mike? Good." when Lucy told her about her day.>>154147323I find Another Flame to be the most depressing thing Taeshi's ever written, and I'm including Paisy in that. The implication in that AU is that Mike and Lucy are doomed to do this dance literally forever, or until one of the nadirs of their relationship results in a murder-suicide. They'll never get over each other, move on, improve, or forgive; they're stuck as dysfunctional friends-who-hate-each-other until they both die.
>>154147653That would still be shitty writing but at least serve a function if the comic actually did surprise everyone by announcing the Mike demonization was wrong and bad. Lucy's mom would have been thrown under a bus for a theme that's still better than woe is Lucy White cat the perpetually put-upon.
>>154147646>Oh dear, well things like that happen, there's no use dwelling on it, I bet she was asking for it anyway. Now please go back to your soundproof room that has no lock and get some rest, I left some pills and water in case you're having trouble falling asleep
>>154147697Unfortunately, I notice Lucy's mom looking pretty sour when she ponders calling Mike's mom. It seems unlikely to me that she's privately groaning over this whole song and dance both moms are pulling for the sake of their kids.
>>154147801I think the issue with Mike's mom being in on this distance thing is that it causes several issues.>Why the fuck would Lucy be at the same fucking school and karate class>How the hell would you explain to your best friend the sudden need for Mike to keep away from Lucy without alluding to something>How the fuck didn't this suddenly trigger some questions for Augustus from Lucy's mom after she asked him to let her know if anything changed, as this would have been something that prompted her to ask why Mike now needs to keep distance vs what was occurring before.>Why the fuck wouldn't Mike's mom ask Mike any questions if something has changed with Lucy? Then again, these moms aren't the best.>Lucy mm let her daughter walk around alone around the anni of Lucy making ketchup>Mike's mom seems aware Mike is starving himself, and just seems to be managing it.Mike's mom works outside the house. What the fuck is Lucy's mom's excuse?
>>154147801Now this is going to sound very conspirators but WHAT IF the whole Haley skipping on her babysitting duties is bullshit and they're doing this so Mike stays holed up with Chris since he's the kind of kid that will take that responsibility, so that perfect victim Lucy can be at ease that he won't have a 1 on 100 chance of finding him around? It's a load of bullshit but maybe Haley's anger is because they're playing him like a fiddle
>>154147801It is unlikely, both in-universe and on a meta level of "taeshi doesn't write this way". But I'd be sour too, if I had to constantly triangulate with a lifelong friend to prevent our children drifting into contact and destroying each other like matter-antimatter. Maybe that face of irritation is her thinking "dammit, I might have to waste another girls night trying to figure out what the fuck is wrong with these kids instead of having fun getting plastered on mimosas".
>>154147967I feel like her mom shares Lucy's views on problem solving, which is let the world fix things by itself. Depressed daughter? Send her away, not my problem. Oldest son is a sperg with autism and anger problems? He'll deal, not my problem. Middle son is extremely lame? That's on him, not my problem. Augustus is used to deal with things on his own and has his shit more or less together? Oh Augustus you're like a son to me. She's not an airheaded housewife, she's a detached one, how's any of this my fault when I did nothing to cause it
>You knew you were all I had!>E-except Sue, my unyieldingly loyal lesbian slave>and David, my eternal simp attack dog who hurts anyone I don't like>and James, the kid I didn't even know existed until he was kissing my ass>oh, and Zachary, who I knew for a single day before he pledged his life to protecting me>can't forget Paulo, the boy who bullied you but I let grope my tits and ass for the entire time you and I have been friends, and also we fucked>also there was Augustus who I unabashedly replaced you with years ago, we'd be dating right now he just hasn't reciprocated >and APPARENTLY I also had a boyfriend in the other school despite how I was supposed to be so broken up over you I tried to kill myself>but other than that YOU WERE ALL I HAD!Okay Lucy[Prediction], Lucy was super happy and either Mike-Level close to this other kid or straight up dating him, and Lucy's mom freaked out thinking it would send Lucy spiraling and either she forced the relationship to end, which ruined Lucy's mood and ended up with her being sent back home or Lucy's mom directly intervened by bringing Lucy homeTaeshi brought up recently that she "finally figured out" why Lucy came home at all, and I figure this is gonna be it.It's going to show how Lucy would actually be totally okay and it's everyone else that's ruining her life (again), Lucy isn't a fuck up and it was never her fault (again).
>>154148318>Taeshi brought up recently that she "finally figured out" why Lucy came home at all, and I figure this is gonna be it.That means Lucy was a complete fucking liar in both EF and LITS. Not even just contradictory, just a bloody liar in-universe.
>>154148318>What do you mean the pets>FOR FUCK'S SAKE MIKE, HOW DO YOU EXPECT YASHI TO FUCK ME, WITH A DIVING BELL?
>>154148318Tangential, but when exactly did “Paulo wants to grab Lucy’s boobs because she has big boobs” become “Paulo is unyieldingly loyal to Lucy and will blow up multiple of his relationships over her”?
ANOTHER love interest??
>>154148318This is the most logical outcome and I'm already getting tilted over it. I really hope her relationship with Rebound was toxic and Lucy's just blind to it, but it really is looking like an oncoming pity party.>>154148580She's literally got hoes in different area codes
>>154148383>Lucy was a complete fucking liarYes Anon we knew this already
>>154148318Send it to the ask blog, I can sweeten the deal.https://files.catbox.moe/60uhu5.webp
>>154148534blew up both jasmine and tess in one go by admitting he loved Lucy more than Jasmine AND specifically more than Tess.When Lucy was missing he was in a FwB who borderlined into relationship status, even being jealous of Matt (rules for thee but not for Paulo or whatever).. Lucy appears and Paulo says sayonara in the least tactful way possible. The only time we have him refuse anything romantic with Rachel was in the physical books unaccessible to many fans ( btwf ucking AND being emotionally dependent like Paulo was is not a FwB situation. It's pathetic how he crawled back for emotional support, good on Rachel for dumping his soggy bitch ass when that happened)I dont think he can recover his platonic relationship with Mike anymore after all that had happened, mostly when he was ready to throw him under the bus that one time and now Lucy holds it as ammunition.David is a non character but because Paulo loved Lucy so much and respected her enough to not take advantage of her, he almost jeopardized how David sees him. But fuck david, I hate the memedog
>>154148764I bet if you attack the parents about how come they know it was Mike who made Lucy act up yet they decided to still put her back in Roseville, same school and even same karate classes, and are showing they care JUST NOW she's going to trip once or twice trying to defend them because "you dont get it"
>>154147967Taeshi will offer some easily disproven bullshit excuse for maybe one of these disrepencies on tumblr and call it good. I think the most straightforward explanation is that she wants to write whatever she pleases and--due to past experience on the discord--expects her fans to slurp up whatever lazy excuse she feeds them.
PREDICT THE LOVE INTEREST (or Lucy's sloppy seconds).>mike clone>a chad who Lucy became a doormat for
>>154148865Oh, I mean send the first segment separately too.And the colored version of that art will be here soon.
>>154148901Yeah I'm just saying that would rile her up enough to be open to answer more accusatory questions, if you go straight for Lucy's throat she will ignore you
>>154148534Paulo has always kissed her ass, but admittedly, at first it was more of a lust thing.I think it was around the watercolor era, when him and Lucy did the deed, that he legit became completely entranced by her, and it stopped being just a carnal thing.It only kind of sort of stopped recently, when he and Daisy got together, but I have absolutely no doubt he'd fold immediately if Lucy threw herself in his arms.Same goes for Daisy. I'm 100% sure she'd drop Paulo in a heartbeat if Augustus started hitting on her.It's all messed up.
>>154148318>>154148637As usual, it is annoying how easily this comic could be...well, not fixed, but perhaps salvaged to some degree or another.>the lesson is that Lucy is a habitual buck-passer who needs to stop blaming others for her own mistakes and take some personal responsibility>which includes accepting that she does in fact keep latching onto boys and needs to stopTaeshi made noise years ago about how part of Lucy's arc is learning to not be so dependent on others but boy howdy there have been zero steps taken in that direction so far.
>>154148891>implying Taeshi will ever bother fleshing him outLook at the Francis situation. She can't even decide his age braket. This other boy only exists as a justification for more Lucy pity party asspats.
>>154149022>boy howdy there have been zero steps taken in that direction so far.You could argue that its gotten worse after her suicide. Before you could argue that she wanted male attention of someone she was "close" to, but now she has a male caretaker because her family treats her like she is emotionally unstable, cause she is.
>>154148534>>154148964I noticed the shift shortly before and after Lucy's confession, when she actually confided in and then threw herself at Paulo. Afterward he did try to take care of her when Lucy was sick, which isn't something Volume 1 Paulo would have necessarily done. At least not happily. It definitely got worse after they boned, though.
>>154148891I'm thinking it's gonna be Mike but Taller and BettererWe're gonna get a montage of all the times Mike "failed" Lucy, with this other guy doing the "right" thing, she's going to treat him a million times better than Mike and probably bang him before we get a panel of Lucy's post-coital frowning and a thought bubble "I am... le sad? because he's not My Soul Mate™ Michael?"Taeshi will fail to see how this undermines MxL, because how Lucy treats other people and how she throws herself at them doesn't matter because there's no true love behind it.How do we know there's love between MxL? Shut up! There just is!
>>154147471>Lucy's father
>>154149087It really is just the Liam shit all over again, huh? Mike and Lucy can't be together because of a plot she herself wrote and so Taeshi will find ways to have her cake and eat it too. I wonder how long she can resist resuming her Paulo x Lucy self-fanfiction AU comics.
>>154149195>Mike narratively isn't allowed to move on while Lucy rides the cock carousel.Mike is in hell.
>>154146701Will Lucy's mom change her mind when she realizes Lucy's carrying Alejandro's baby?>Her mom can do nothing but grumble as Alejandro comes over to loudly fuck Lucy after she gives birth because he has a legal right to visit his children after pumping a few more in her before she even leaves home >Lucy starts dragging him to every family event because "He's the father of my children mom you have to get over it">She's too afraid of Lucy going mental again to stop it
Jesus, can Mike get a love interest who isn't run through like a Mumbai sewage pipe? I expect Sandy will very quickly hit double digit body count once she turns 18, but I get the sense that at least she'd make them wear condoms. Lucy's churning through men and makes sure to get something to remember them by every time.
>>154148891(Not) Mike with black stripes who still has a spine by virtue of not having suffered his own Lucy
>>154149217At least he can experience the peace of feeling dead inside while Lucy is kept away from him. For now.
>>154146151Kek, so she rebounded with yet another poor idiot during her exile and it blew up so bad her coming back to the place that caused her to try to kill herself was a better alternative. This is fucking crazy.
>>154149257>while Lucy is kept away from him. For now.Being near Lucy is like being in a shitty Lifetime movie or psychological "thriller" except the victim gets blamed.
>>154149331And, quite naturally, she is the victim in all of this. I appreciate Taeshi speedrunning all the reasons to not give a shit about Lucy's self-inflicted problems.
>>154149245>All two of Mike's love interests, Sandy and Lucy, spend every waking moment fucking other men and rubbing it in his face>Taeshi had to bend over backwards to stop Daisy from fucking Abbey just so she'll stay a virgin for Paulo, who has already taken two other girl's virginitiesI think suitcase's virginity fetish is shining through here for Paulo and Daisy, "his" shipmeanwhile Taeshi is taking out all her frustration on Mike for Suit's virginity fetish like>Oh, you only like virgin's huh souppy? Well how about I make your proxy Mike get exclusively with run through sluts who fuck literally anyone but him? :)
>>154146151Okay so 1. If the family find out , WHY would you make something so important happen off screen? And if his parents don't know, this mean's Lucy's mom is being fake as fuck towards Mike's mom. Like mother like daughter. It also means Mike's parents, or at least his mom, should be more aware of his mental state.2. If lucy tried her usual tactics with the boy at the other school and it blew up in her face and she STILL didn't learn anything, then she's just fucking beyond help. That also means that her trying to get her friends to stay away from her upon her return was even DUMBER."Oh, Lucy did suffer! It was just in the past!" Then that makes every bad decision Lucy made since coming back even worse. None of this shit was planned out. Taesh is probably going to do what she's been doing since LitS and try to fill in any blanks on the tumblr blog. But she'll just make things worse.
>>154146151I tried my best
>>154149351Aside from worrying about others using her for her body/looks(which has been butchered, thrown out & somehow done better with Mike), which of Lucy's issues wasn't self-inflicted?I'm not even hating Lucy right now, genuinely. What issues of hers weren't caused by her actions or personality?>>154149395What did Uncle Steve do for Lucy's mom that got him free jailbait?
>>154149437Best I can think of is the Alejandro stuff since that guy was just a threat to everyone
>>154149370>mike has to listen on the phone to his girlfriend talking about all the fat cocks she will ride to spite her mom>she even makes him validate her "yes babe, it would serve her right if you gave Damian the lighting engineer your anal cherry"Comically whorish
>>154149459The issue is, you can literally solve that with a police report or warning Lucy's mom that there is a grown-ass man after her or something. This isn't the UK.
>>154149524Sure but that I am willing to give more to group stupidity than Lucy alone as any of the group could have done that
>>154149567Do the others even know Alej is still "hunting" Lucy?
>>154149578They don't. The only one that has any knowledge is Augustus. Lucy just has nightmares about it but everyone else moved on.
>>154149612It is weird literally everyone but her is fine. You'd think more than one of them would be traumatized by that.
>>154149653Daisy at the least because she watched everyone else try to stop him and get slapped down by him.But Lucy's trauma about it is only so taeshi can wring sympathy points out of people and to try and stack some reason for why she "hates" the others despit it not making sense.It's her usual badly planned shit.
>this comic ends with mucy by the waywhen it does end, I guess. Probably 2037 or when taeshi can no longer squeeze money out of her simps.
>>154149653Might have something to do with said guy's sorta right hand man living in her home constantly getting calls from either him or his goons and letting it ring for a laugh while she is around...naahhh couldnt be.
>>154149395>What do you care about your body anyways>I recall you trying to destroy itOoof that hits hard as fuck
>>154149437Uncle Steve is Jordan's actual father
>>154149612Another one for the "Augustus could tell ANYONE about what's going on and solve a lot of problems but then he wouldn't be cool" pile
>>154149053>implying Taeshi will ever bother fleshing him outyeah but this mystery guy is already on a better position by being one of lucy's love interests as opposed to one of sandy's
>>154149506I wonder what Taeshi's thought process is behind making Mike a literal NTR protagonist
so this old ask response was about lucy's new boy right?
The Amy fanfic can't come soon enough.
>>154149996>Taeshi's thought process is behind making Mike a literal NTR protagonistShe fucking hates him but knows removing him would actually kill the comic. Despite everything, he is one of the few reasons shit ever happens(against his will). He is needed.Plus, she is a womman so it's her fetish.
>>154150048That would be quite ironic, considering that Lucy's trauma from the events in the alley manifests visually as a starry sky.
>>154150173I think that's the point, the proposition is gonna go badly because Lucy gets a PTSD flashback
>>154149233It's so kind of Lucy to take it for the team by grabbing and satisfying Alejandro's... interest. Lucy may tell Alejandro about her friend's insecurities and flaws in great detail, but that's just her venting and masking. Really she's being remarkably selfless! She even convinced Alejandro that sending Mike a burned dvd of certain scenes is sufficient revenge. It broke her heart to say those nasty things about Mike in front of a camera, but she did it for his sake, really.
>>154148318Ok, I've come up with a way she could be mad at her mom without it being a total pity party:She meets Liam and hits it off with him, the relationship looks a lot like hers and Mike's. Her mom brings this up in front of Liam, who asks more about it. When more of the grisly details come out, he realizes that this is a pattern and he's next in line to get strung along, so he breaks it off with her by saying "I feel sorry for your boyfriend"
>>154148891Mike clone who Lucy tries to get close to but is quickly driven off by his Lucy-equivalent. This makes her sad, as she sees the path that might have been had she been more assertive about claiming Mike before Sandy could win him over.
>>154150048>retroactive replacement Mike drops a corny line on Lucy>it gets treated like sexual assault
>>154150279>Mike clone who Lucy tries to get close to but is quickly driven off by his Lucy-equivalent. This makes her sad, as she sees the path that might have been had she been more assertive about claiming Mike before Sandy could win him over.>All this other-Lucy did was open up and not treat her Mike like he brought her cold chicken.Can we have the other Lucy instead?
So if Lucy tried her usual shenanigans and it backfired? Does that mean that she's retarded? It makes how she acted when she came back even worse.
>>154150279I suppose we should try to come up with a not-Mike who's behavior would set up Lucy's initial attitude upon her return. You know, so that we have a reasonable baseline to compare Taeshi's inevitable bullshit against.
>>154150345It was super lovey dovey and wholesome which is the reason why Lucy has not dwelled on him at all ever since.
>>154150352Couldn't we just use that shitty comic Taeshi drew: comparing Mike/Abbey/Paulo in a relationship with Lucy for the baseline? You know the one that makes her a big slut.
>>154150345She is already retarded. It would just make her look even more inexcusably retarded
>>154150410>Lucy latches onto a not-Abbey but is low-key miserable about it because he's too much of a gentleman who refuses to challenge herAlso wasn't that basically Liam's general thing?
>>154150433It should have backfired with Augustus once the honeymoon period was over but Lucyspace at ground zero is it's most powerful incarnation.
>>154150066Sorry, trip to Arizona and Nevada where I nearly got heatstroke a few times and my master's degree of accounting started up alongside additional working hours.Good news on the progress: concepts for chapters 1-5 (Windchill, Plastic Bouquet, O.M.R., Broken Vows, and Upon the Cobbled Path) have all been fully fleshed out.Opening for Chapter 1 is done, and had to remake the narrative from scratch to do proper worldbuilding. Here's some nonconsequential spoilers: there will be a diner scene near the end of chapter 3 (I assume with burgers, maybe fried fish for Mike, and a peanut butter and smoked bone marrow smoothie for Amy) to balance out what happens earlier in the chapter, and that the premise of the story has been turned a bit more somber in the first chapters due to personal preferences.I was originally going to have it light-hearted and sappy, but my vision is far more about two people trying to find meaning in each other despite everything that happens around them.
Shit's crazy, imagine having to manage your daughter's cock cravings like that
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>>154150352Hmm. Let's call him "Liam".>Handsomer taller not!Mike not!Augustus who listens kindly to Lucy's miserable exposition dumping and plays therapist/handler>responds with "gasp, this 'Mike' said THAT?? No, you're not worthless! You're beautiful and great, it's not your fault, all your friends failed you">Lucy gets over her self-hating sense of worthlessness by internalizing Liam's affirmations>Liam falls in love with Lucy (because of course he does, how could anyone not)>This feeds into Lucy's weird complex over romantic love and reminds her of Mike>Lucy freaks out, ruining Liam's confession, and her mom decides to bring her back to Roseville to prevent her spinning out again>Before she goes Liam kindly forgives her and wishes her wellAnd that's how Lucy came back a super-hostile weirdo who hates all her friends and "doesn't fucking like [Mike] anymore, okay?"!
>>154150345I'm actually more interested in a possible not-table group, in a new school Lucy shouldn't thrive through any ass kissers, nor is there a lightning rod to absorb her hostility, so either way see a Lucy forced to be a character or get confirmation that Taeshi is a hack by having people naturally attracted and supporting her just because
>>154150735>I'm actually more interested in a possible not-table groupHow the fuck would Lucy make any friends?
>>154150781Not by putting in any effort on her part, that's for sure!
>>154150735Everybody is obligated to love Lucy because Taeshi cannot resist her BPD powertrip fantasy. However, it would be pretty refreshing to instead confirm that Lucy exhausted most everyone who tried to be her friend at that other school and that all the support she's gotten from Roseville high is because of the suicide stunt. Once non-retards get to really know her, their opinion naturally sours.
>>154150240HotIt's Lucy's idea to film under Mike and Lucy's special tree because despite moving on she's still that spitefulDamn I miss trace anons AlejandroXLucy stuff though
>>154150735>get confirmation that Taeshi is a hack by having people naturally attracted and supporting her just becauseAnon, you already know this is exactly what is going to happen.
>>154150735Lucy SHOULDN'T have friends, even if she can get some at the start, she can't keep them. But you know how BCB is. People will trip over themselves to befriend and/or date Lucy just because she exists
>>154151122It's really funny because I am 100% certain that Taeshi was not a popular girl back in highschool and was almost certainly an outcast.
>>154149087The difference with this 'Mike but betterer' is that like many, he will fall in the face of the Chaos. But not true Mike, not today.>>154149332It's always good to see someone else use one of my shitty microsoft paint edits.
This new retcon about Lucy having another Mike replacement blanket at the other school inadvertantly give the real Mike extra ammo when he asks why Lucy is so obsessed with him. Surely she could just designate another guy and just move on with him instead. Perhaps Augustus, as the ever-shifting word of Taeshi declared that he's fallen in love with Lucy after all. And once he goes to college, the role can fall to someone else. Lucy has proven she's adaptable like that.
>>154150542Thanks for the response. Super excited to see what you come up with.
>>154147422Well, of course. Lucy is originally meant to be something of a tsundere.
>>154151375Is Taeshi such a habitual liar that she feels the need to cover for her own characters despite knowing what's "really" going on in-story? Does she feel the need to mislead her own readers so they don't judge her characters too harshly for being unrepentant assholes?
>>154151362No problem, just busy with my master's degree in accounting and my job.
>>154151355For real her fixation on Mike makes no sense. She even does in in FitR with the rando fiance and still willing to jump back to Mike if the opportunity ever arrived.
>>154148891Liam or that guy from Fork in the Road 2 since that's an AU and the canon is she met him in the other school
>>154151459>or real her fixation on Mike makes no sense.She isn't obsessed with a person. Lucy doesn't like sharing "her" toys.
>>154151513I thought she met him at her work, after college.
>>154151551Logically speaking, I think that Mike's only remaining appeal to Lucy must be the fact that he keeps refusing her. It can't be his pathetic devolved personality that does not fit the volume 1 Mike she fell in love with. No, it's the vexxing issue of Lucy herself losing the Mike Bowl and thus feeling inadequate. Winning him over is a matter of personal validation.
>>154151662Yeah i think at this point she just wants to show she can win him over more than anything. Despite the fact that she's taken actions that would make sure that never happens if she tried them on anyone else
>>154151700>Despite the fact that she's taken actions that would make sure that never happens if she tried them on anyone elseI think that she currently sees him as a lost cause, i.e. tied to Sandy. Which is how she viewed him until EF, making it easy to keep "innocently" stepping on his toes while quietly seething.
>>154151729I really hope Mike one day breaks up with Sandy and hooks up with someone else entirely but someone Lucy knows.
>>154151775Its one reason why, even if it didn't last, anons wanted Mike x Daisy to happen. If only to see Lucy's reaction to losing Mike to someone she clearly saw as beneath her level.
>>154151775Oh now that would piss Lucy off and depress her to no end. Given "recent" events, I'm sure that Augustus would get upset at Mike for hurting Lucy by flaunting his new relationship or some such nonsense. The penalty for not being more circumspect is another shattered relationship.
>>154151826I think this is one reason why Taeshi didn't want Maisy to happen. There is no separation between herself and Lucy, and so Taeshi's own ego would have been bruised in the process.
>>154151775too bad that's literally never going to happen
>>154151920>I'm sure that Augustus would get upset at Mike for hurting Lucy by flaunting his new relationship or some such nonsense.Mike has a one-night stand with Rachel, and now Augustus has to sacrifice his "social life" for Lucy.
The cultural zeitgeist of the entire Western world will never allow Taeshi to even think of ever letting Lucy be held to account. Like, I hate to bring up the culture war, but women cannot do wrong when it comes to how to treat men. It is illegal and immoral to suggest they can. It is what it is. Even if Taeshi knew how ass it was in terms of karmic narrative, she would have to keep to it now. Writing a woman who took responsibility for her own excesses in today's context would be like writing about a prostitute heroine in a Christian society.
>>154152248>would be like writing about a prostitute heroine in a Christian societyRight, like Mary Magdalene.
One way things could be explained (why mike still lives rent free inside her head) is that she latched onto a guy at the new school but he wasn't willing to tolerate her like Michael so it didn't work out. Hopefully taeshi delivers for once and we get a chapter of Chad Thundercock pumping and dumping lucy.
>>154151375Yeah, but the point of a tsundere (in a romcom context, not a psycho drama context) is supposed to be that their guard is up in public, but comes down in relaxed private moments or when surprised. Lucy on the other hand is approachable and friendly (relatively speaking, she's still pretty abrasive) in public, but in her relaxed private moments or when caught off guard she'll go off about how she hates her friends and feels no connection or fondness for any of them. It's backwards, so rather than characterizing her as a standard tsundere, who defends herself with an abrasive attitude and sarcasm while secretly being sweet and gentle, Lucy really is just that fucking hostile.
>>154149437He's uncle Steve! Literally the best guy you've ever met. How can you say no to a swell guy like that?
>>154146405>"check in with Ellen again">hey Ellen, my daughter is still sulking for some reason, I blame your son, can you punish him?>I'd love to but I haven't really interacted with him in weeks, I'll ask Haley to kick him in the ribs
>>154152819Lucy doesn't come across as a tsundere but rather bipolar. She is capable of being genuinely nice but her moodswings are impossible to predict and she defaults to unnecessary cruelty.
>Lucy is toxic and used up>Sandy is unfaithful>Daisy is FAT!>Sue is a know it all>Rachel is a DIGGER>Stacy is a nerd>Molly is too yound>Haley is too relatedAmaya :D is the clear path to take here, Mike. Fuck the rest of these hoes, they ain't worth your time
>>154153183Doesn't Amaya have a penis?
>>154153199Why would you even suggest such a thing, anon? I'm disappointed in you.
>>154153175I think it's a side result of her not following through with the original idea that Lucy being "Tsundere" had consequences.If she is bipolar, Taeshi refuses to have her diagnosed and get actual help in the comic. I feel like that would have been a natural progression of things. But she won't commit all the way through
>>154153183>Looks like a little boy>Canon tranny probably gonna get one of those horrific dicks made out of forearm skinPassI'll stick with the nerd and the know-it-all
Ruin has come to my family. You remember my venerable house, familiar and tranquil, gazing warmly from its peaceful place amongst the suburbs. I lived all my years in that modest, post-war household, beloved by family and classmates. And yet, I began to tire of abusive treatment. A singular, unsettlingly obsessed companion suggested my every action was a gateway to some malicious and cruel spirit. With gaming and schooling, I bent every effort towards the disproval and refutation of those long-held beliefs, exhausting what remains of my spiritual wellbeing on soppy bitchcats and flighty twinks. At last, in the verdant fields behind the school we unearthed those antediluvian accusations of evil letters. My every step unsettled the white cat, but we were in a realm of BPD and madness! In the end, I alone remained groaning and despairing in those desolate fields of the school. Until consciousness failed me. You remember my venerable house, homely and tranquil. It is a festering wound! I beg you Amy, come into canon, claim your birthright, and deliver my spirit from the ravenous clutching shadows of the Darkest Lucyspace.
>>154153183this is so unfair to stacy he likes her just fine you bastard
>>154152325I'm not a westoid, idk about Christian writings but you know what I mean. Name me one work from the past 10 years where a female character apologized for her part in emotional abuse to a male character.
>>154154014I took some liberties in my greed for Amaya :D. Sorry brah.
>>154153719Yeah... unfortunately, not even Amaya :D can escape Taeshi's signature move, the Character Ruination Beam.
if lucy's parents actually gave a shit, they would have sent her to an all-girls school
>>154154152Lucy would actually go full school shooter if she had to spend that long bereft of male attention.
>>154151087Really it's a win-win-win. Lucy gets controlled by someone who will overpower her challenges, like she wants. Alejandro gets his satisfaction. And Lucy's friends don't have to worry about Alejandro or Lucy taking psychotic revenge on them anymore!
>>154154152>>154154193>send her to an all-girls schoolThat'd be entertaining, and it would actually make sense for them to do that.However, what would happen is that somehow aaaall the girls in her class would fall in love with her. She is so desireable by everyone, after all.She'd be the 'mysterious, cool and distant beauty that refuses to acknowledge the other girls love'.Athletic and brave, she'd leave a bunch of broken hearts, and the story would make sure they'd pin the blame on her but, in classic Lucy fashion, 'she never fucking wanted any of it!'.Comic would briefly turn into a shoujo-ai manga, but the end result would be the same, with everyone pining for Lucy, etc.
Yandere Lucy chapter when? Full of Knives, Blood, and P I S S
Mucy is such a shit endgame ship, what did Mike do to deserve such a bullshit ending? Mentally unstable abusive used goods whore. Literally 0 positives.
>>154154804>what did Mike do to deserve such a bullshit ending?Unfortunately, Mike loves unstable white girls. God gives the most difficult fetishes to the toughest soldiers.
>>154155031>Mike clearly is a cracka lova!Sue's BLACK?!
>>154155095Taeshi's need to constantly humiliate her now makes a lot more sense.
>>154155095I think BCB universe still cleaves to the one-drop rule. Hence why Lucy has inbreeding depression.
>>154155095Dogs are black and Sue has been hanging out with McCain too much, she's starting to copy language quirks that'll get her beaten up
>>154155423Actually I don't know if anyone is canonically black in BCB, it's been a while since "dogs are black people" came up
>>154155095Sue is the whitest girl in the cast.
>>154155444>"dogs are black people"I'm sorry what
>>154155444daisy's not white at the very least
>>154155534It's an old running gag from back in the day, I think all references to it have been scrubbed at this point
>>154155655Daisy's human representation changes over time
>>154154027>I'm not a westoid, idk about Christian writingsOkay, so don't talk about what you don't understand. Or do basic research and fix that shortcoming.
>>154155444Somewhere along the line, discord cultists decided that Daisy should be white even though she acts like a stereotypical white girl with self-esteem issues.
>>154155776*decided that Daisy should be black
>>154151568Sorry I'm esl, I meant the real canon for Taeshi will be Lucy met him at that school now, and not in FitR2 as we all know
>>154156058I do wonder if said character was meant to make some hypothetical Mucystans jealous, with Taeshi of course failing to realize she already drove them all to extinction.
>>154156122>I do wonder if said character was meant to make some hypothetical Mucystans jealousWhile it's quite possible Taeshi could do that, I doubt it in this specific case, because in the December live stream, Taeshi talked a lot about the creation of FitR2; she spent a good amount of time talking about how, throughout the creation process, she was torn between giving Mucy a happy ending or sticking with Lucy's ending, moving on with her life. Then, in another part of the live stream, when asked about the possibility of a Part 3, she said that at the moment she didn't have any ideas for a Part 3, but she does have an idea for a FitR AU where the events of FitR1 happen almost identically, except for one change: instead of Mike calling Lucy a few days after leaving Lucy's apartment, he personally goes to talk to her, and because of that, Lucy doesn't know that Mike has her number, and consequently, she doesn't block his contact. So I think Fit2 is more about Taeshi pleasing the Lucy fans with an ending where Lucy is "independent" and marries the self-insert Lucy fan than her specifically trying to troll a Mucy fan.
>>154152325Mary Magdalene was NOT a prostitute, caths made that up for theology reasons. Fuck I hate this myth so much.
>>154148891A kinder Alejandro clone.
>>154157306>Every church leader of any significance held this interpretation after a lifetime of studying the bible, since almost as far back as the founding of Christianity?>erm sorry, but you really need to listen to my pastor Schlomo Weissberg to get the REAL story of the bibleI'm very atheist, but it's amazing how dogshit retarded protestants are lmao
>>154150280It's legally sexual harassment. Lucy gets scared and her mother takes it to far and has the student expelled. Everyone would then hate Lucy for what her mom did forcing her to go back.
>>154151775>He chooses Daisy>Daisy breaks up with Paulo>Now everyone see's Mike as homewrecker
>>154149506>Sandy's face when she knows she's gonna have to give Mike pity sex after their Valentine's date to make up for all the strange dick she's taken
Man I hope Taeshi has a moment of clarity and the guy didn't fall in love with her nor was even a friend. Lucy just approached him the same way she did Mike in kindergarten because he reminded her of Mike/needed a security blanket, and she started acting as always, and guy simply wasn't keen on it and made a restraining order, forcing her to move again. Now that's something I would love to read
>>154157508Apparently canon, Sandy doesn't feel bad at all about cheating she's just annoyed she had to give up Francis because of her "stupid boyfriend"
>>154157368Orthodox don't ascribe to the whore headcanon either, anon.
>>154157508>>154157588It's astonishing how bad Taeshi is at writing "sympathetic", to the point that I actually like the character created to be a whore villain better than the main characters. I no longer care if Mike or Lucy end up happy, they're too far gone. It's obvious that they will never escape samsara. Lucy will always be a crazy bitch who's dependent on her current favorite boy, and Mike will always be a pathetic sadsack who can't stand up for himself without veering into "overreacting asshole".Sandy is at least capable of happiness. She performs actions that she derives some benefit from, as opposed to just passively reacting and going "but I never wanted it, now I'm sad" over and over.
>>154154027>Name me one work from the past 10 years where a female character apologized for her part in emotional abuse to a male character.BCB. It didn't last, but it did happen. Repeatedly, even.Other, less niche /co/-related examples from the past 10 years include:>steven universe>adventure time / fiona and cake>scott pilgrim takes off
>>154155095Nah she's whiter than wonder bread. She would be the one to talk black like her friends to join in when they say something but she's the only one everyone stops and looks at oddly
>>154157588She constantly says stuff like this and then wonder why people just don't suddenly feel sympathy for characters when she wants them to.
>>154151157BCB is just her living out the fantasy of being a popular mean girl while having mental issues. She was probably an outcast even among outcasts
So Lucy's whole family hates Mike? Why would they even let them near each other? This also means that Lucy's mom might be being fake as fuck to Mikes.That woman is probably venting to her all about her marriage issues and Lucy's mom is just keeping it stored up for if something happens to Lucy and they think it's Mike related. Also, like another anon said, the boy thing makes them taking Augustus in so easily all the more stupid. It also means that it's not purely a Mike problem but more a problem with Lucy.How can Taeshi even think of Mucy as any kind of end game when she does stuff like this?
>>154157354Lucy isn't interested in kindness, she wants to be objectified and challenged
>>154157769>BCB. It didn't last, but it did happen. >Repeatedly, even.How many of those so-called apologies weren't fake as fuck?
>>154151419I appreciate your edit, anon.
>>154157306It doesn't matter--The Mary Magdalene virtuous ex-prostitute idea has been rattling around in popular Christian culture too long to be ignored.
>>154157368The Catholic Church itself recanted the notion, you retarded fedoralord.
>>154157707>anon doesn't want to accept that Taeshi will not be able to stop herself from completely demonizing Sandy before her departure from the comicLucy has to look superior, after all. Despite how badly she sucks. So imagine the kind of wretched creature that is yet more despicable than bow cat.
>>154157963Wow is Taeshi absolute dogshit at drawing action. Look at those ineffectual blocks and how Mike just kind of tilts into Lucy.
>>154157588I hate how she's been pulling this "they're teenagers!" excuse whenever her writing awful characters comes to the light, but as soon as Mike is put anywhere in the equation then he should have had introspected, made more mature desicions, thought about others, plan for the future and put others first, he's not allowed to also be a hormonal teenager with issued and "a brain still developing", he should have known better. And I only say this because Mike is somehow her trigger when it comes to morality>"Everyone was an ass in LitS :)'>Ok but I feel bad for Mike>"... actually only Mike was an ass in LitS everyone else was morally righteous and he deserved everything and more"
>>154157588>>154157828>>154159401What the fuck man? What is Taeshi's deal? Why is she like this?Is this 40 year old woman allergic to the notion of subtlety? Of character depth? Of redemption? Of basic common sense?Why does she insist on making her characters awful cunts and assholes, and then going 'tee hee its ok! theyre teenagers! ;D' when people complain about them?Why is she not capable of understanding that people usually do not like this shit?Those are not desirable traits in characters Taeshi, that's the kind of thing that makes people hate them, not like them.I swear man, I try not to lay it down too heavy on Taeshi since I feel bad, but she just insists on writing retarded stuff, geez.
Mike/McCain school shooting arc when?
>>154157588>brain is still developingThat study just stopped after a certain age. The brain didn't stop developing. It likely keeps going our whole lives. People need to stop that shit.
>>154159730Man at this point I don't care what happens to the story anymore at all, I just want this shit to end as soon as possible and be done with it.I'm stuck reading it just out of morbid curiosity, but my enjoyment is absolutely non-existent, if not negative. The fanarts are the only good thing remaining.
>>154159712I am of the idea that interacting with the audience, both blog and author comments, is what makes this while comic a pain in the head. Anyone that just went through the comic without engaging with external material or discussion would tell you the same: Lucy is an asshole and she shouldn't have any friends. It's us who keep getting rage baited by the author going "teehee actually she's the best and everyone loves her :)" as we try to correct someone who doesn't care about being rational
Enjoy!https://files.catbox.moe/csiku5.webp
>>154160724Thanks anon, more Amy is always appreciated.God knows this comic needs some sweetness to counter the awful bitterness.
>>154160781Np, it was for the 2026 Eel event and was meant to be a more 'native' Amy who was convinced that she grew up in the island. Basically, sexy tropical Amy.
>>154157588But she is the one guilt tripping Mike. This shit makes no sense
>>154161038>If I stay with Francis my mom's gonna kill me>But I already broke up with Mike>Ergo, I must reacquire Mike>Ergo, I must exploit his strong moral centerIt makes Sandy into a much more Machiavellian figure than Taeshi seems to have intended.
>>154161178She could also just cut them both loose so there is no supposed "hassle" at all.
>>154161304I guess she doesn't want to be seen as a 'villain' for dumping Mike, or she believes it's better than nothing.Shit sucks either way.Thank you so much for this deeply complex character Taeshi.
>>154161304Maybe Mike's not the only one suffering under the sunk cost fallacy?
>>154158553I don't care, anon. Lucy and Mike suck and have no excuses for sucking, while Sandy has a sympathetic backstory and actually does stuff. Sandy could literally castrate Mike and sell him and Lucy into slavery and I'd still go "based, sandy stays winning".
>>154161435Sorry anon, but that sympathetic backstory has been taken from Sandy. You're still chasing after a phantom that has been replaced by "lol actually being an airhead model with no prospects beyond her body is based." The sooner you learn to accept that and divorce yourself from any of these so-called characters the better.
>>154151087>Damn I miss trace anons AlejandroXLucy stuff thoughI'm glad traceanon moved on to greener pastures but I do miss his art
>>154159712During my time on the discord, whenever Taeshi wrote some absolute nonsense, the cultists would trip over themselves in a rush to fill glaring plotholes with their personal headcanons. I'm not certain as to why Taeshi began supplying her own public excuses. Her readers are actually much better at coming up with excuses than she's proven to be. Maybe she's just trying to cut off criticism by fabricating justifications after the fact and can't keep track of her own lies.
>>154161378>not the only one suffering under the sunk cost fallacy?If she gave a shit about sunk cost, she wouldn't have cheated on his ass so brazenly, then guilt-trip his ass to get back together. What, does Sandy have no friends due to modeling? Is that why she wanted ike back?
>>154161695I think it's pretty clear that Taeshi has not thought very hard about why Sandy came crawling back to Mike on hands and knees.
>>154161635>fill glaring plotholes with their personal headcanonsPeople do that here, too. But I imagine the headcanons permitted to be held in the discord are significantly more charitable to the "favorites" (Lucy and Paulo), and harsher towards the "villains" (Mike and Sandy) and "losers" (Daisy and Sue) than those that anons come up with here.For example, Lucy privately acts like she hates everyone she knows for inexplicable reasons. The party line seems to be that she has been betrayed so much she no longer trusts anyone, and they must have done something, we just haven't gotten to that flashback retcon yet. While these threads take the occams razor approach and assume she's just evil.
>>154161304There used to be the theory that Sandy suddenly wanted Mike back because not having either guy made her realize she last her last link to a "Normal" life, especially if the Model industry is worse than it seems for her. She'd snap and/or burn out if she didn't have that link, so she quickly ran back to Mike.But it's Taeshi so I doubt it. She'll probably have some reason that tries to make Mike look bad
>>154161724I mean, it has been over a decade since Lucy came back, and she has only now made an excuse for why she's back. My only hope is that she makes the guy look completely reasonable by accident.
>>154161818>While these threads take the occams razor approach and assume she's just evilThat's an extreme. I think most people just go with her being a spoiled brat with unadressed mental issues and little capacity to introspect.
>>154161825There is no way she's gonna be able to make Lucy look sane with any backstory suffering she comes up with. Either she'll look just as stupid as she did before the attemp or she'll look worse.
>>154161825good reminder that i've been in these threads for 10 years nowdoesn't really feel like it to be honest
>>154161825>>154161871I've got an idea: Lucy met Liam and pulled her violent tsundere act, he wasn't having it and begged her mom to get her off his back. She thinks her mom ruined a happy relationship, her mom thinks she ruined a toxic one.
>>154161863I disagree. EF with her blatantly lying about not wanting to see Mike suffer, and it appearing she only acted apologetic because Mike was available, with the BCI showing a return to the status quo that caused the problems in the first place,e paints a different picture. Alongside the gaslighting and bullying that was LITS, and the possible future backstory of Lucy latching onto another guy, just makes her seem like a bitch who uses people, & later plays the victim.>>154161905>he wasn't having it and begged her mom to get her off his back>implying any adult in this story would tell lucy to not be a psycho.I am positive there is a brief flashback comic where we see young Lucy wrestling/harming Mike in front of Lucy's mom, and she didn't do shit.
>>154157588Was this written before the fucking Sandy calling Mike back chapter? It must've been cuz taeshi banished herself from the discord after Eternal Flame i believeOtherwise this fucking comment is just fucking infuriatingly contradictory to the events in the comic. I call it, the "Taeshi Special".
>>154161863Personally, my ethical definitions don't draw a distinction there. Self-aware evil is rare; most cruel people (and fictional characters) simply choose to be willfully ignorant of their moral failings, and if pressed will come up with justifications and excuses on the fly. I think that fits Lucy; she hurts people physically or emotionally, for fun and to make herself feel better, and it's only when contradicted or resisted that she whips out the "I never wanted it" or "you were all I had". Lucy's evil on a really petty, minor scale, and it could be overlooked as a foible if she was like, doing volunteer work on the side or something. But Lucy doesn't really have any such redemptive traits, and seems to think "kindness" and "caring" are boring dork stuff.
I'm calling it. THAT boy was Adrian, or whatever his name is from FitR2. Lucy hasn't gotten over her turbo cunt phase yet, in Fitr she was actually reasonable. So on this timeline, Adrian NOPED the fuck out of Lucy's life, shattering Lucyspace, and becoming the first ever mortal to defeat that infernal sorcery.
>>154161821My version of the gap-filling headcanon mentioned above is that Mike was and remains a pretty shitty boyfriend to Sandy. We've seen that he doesn't "get" Sandy's interests or problems, with her trying to explain fashion, or photography, or modeling to him and it going a mile over Mike's head 'cause he's a manlet, but seriously, and he's never given her a gift or done anything for her on the level of a handmade bonsai scene or helping her overcome abuse, the way she has for him.I think Sandy drifted away from Mike and cheated with an older coworker who is implied to have made the first moves, which I do think alleviates some responsibility from Sandy, even if Taeshi goes all SA-apologia again and says she was asking for it because Mike was unable or unwilling to understand her or offer the emotional intimacy she needed, WHEN she needed it. And thus I think that she got back with Mike because "better late and little than never and none"; Mike still seems to be the only person in Sandy's life who cares about her feelings, and him being slow to react to her needs because he's busy being caught up in his own head is still better than having no one on her side at all.
>>154162285To your point the only gift Mike got Sandy was the bouquet of flowers and that was Paulo's idea.I do feel bad that Sandy's basically stuck dating a little boy as a nearly full grown adult.
>>154162326>I do feel bad that Sandy's basically stuck dating a little boy as a nearly full grown adult>stuckFucking kek she's the one who came crawling back for no reason, who are you kidding? Sandy could walk away at any time.
>>154161485Anon, Sandy's newfound love for her industry and work is cope, she either loves what she does so she's "in control" because it's what she wants to do or she stays aware of how much of this is her mother using her for money and how little control she has of her own life, it's part of the same narrative. I don't blame you because fuck Taeshi ever getting a message across but it's there
>>154162285Taeshi would absolutely try to canonize this bullshit if she didn't already despise Sandy and feel a primal need to tear her down.
>>154162285I wake up in a cold sweat sometimes in fear that "actually Mike was bad to Sandy first, just off screen" becomes an official plot point.
>>154162359Unfortunately anon, your take requires ignoring the sheer enthusiasm Sandy displays whenever she prattles on about her vapid new "adult" life and how she has come to disdain "childish" things that she doesn't get. You're hallucinating timelines that could have been but do not actually exist.
>>154161818The difference is the cult takes what Taeshi says out loud and finds a way to force it into the holes while we use only the pieces that came inside the box and refuse to take hers at face value. Never has "word of god" meant so little in a comic
>>154162396I mean, if you asked her to talk about something not related to her job, could she?
>>154162350>Sandy could walk away at any time.So could Mike. Probably even easier than Sandy, since he's invested a lot less into the relationship in terms of effort and is actively miserable in it.>>154162359This. Sandy complains about her life as a model every time she has dialogue with Mike. The one time in the whole comic she's claimed to be happy and love her job was immediately followed by pic related.
>>154162485Does she have a functioning brain?
>>154162520The only thing Mike would gain from picking Lucy would be ending up like Charlotte, so that's not really an option.>>154162326To be fair, he was never able to really process emotions properly due to being abused and made into Lucy's handler. That's kinda what constantly being put last and treated like shit most of your life does to you.
>>154162520>So could MikeIrrelevant to the statement made.>followed by pic related>no actual complaints about modeling on the page>also plz ignore how she was already cheating on Mike with Francis she definitely meant these words dog i swearKek. Sandycopers truly are the these threads' funniest clowns fighting their hardest battles.
>>154162534She's a character written by Taeshi, of course she fuckin' doesn't. If Sandy tried to talk about anything other than pokemon she'd immediately start flailing, like the "trivia questions" during the Suemiliation ritual.>>154162568Mike could just not pick either whitecat. I know that goes against le will of le demiurge and is therefor never ever going to happen, but it is theoretically an option.
>>154162576So anon, do you often fail to infer information from subtext or implication? If so, I apologize for mocking you, that's unfair of me.
>>154162645If you want to be made fun of less, stop making up shit and presenting it as fact. Simple as.
>>154162605Ah, of course. The ideal option is a non-whitecat. I was simply debating on the two whitecats he is forced to choose between.
>>154162520Mike is so damn shortI remember her being positive about her life recently. Maybe at the start of LITS, when Mike was listening to her talk and wondering how painful it would be if he stuck his head in the oven?
>>154162672Fair enough. Between the two it's either an eventual murder-suicide, or a semi-neglected househusband and stay-at-home parent to Porsche. Neither's 100% great, but the latter is clearly better.>>154162676Yeah, but in the same conversation Sandy also complained about how she's constantly running around doing a million things at once because her mom is a controlling bitch, and says she's glad she and Mike are talking more because she feels like it's the only time she can breathe.
>>154162823>she's glad she and Mike are talking more because she feels like it's the only time she can breathe.Maybe she fucking shoulda thought of that before cheating on his ass. For fucks sake, Mike had already shown a willingness to listen to her talk this shit before she cheated on him. If she fuckign wanted this level of communciation than what the fuck?! Why do all the white cats always follow this retarded pattern of being willing to open their hearts (and legs) to other people but never to the guy they actually claim to want to talk to or be with? Lucy and Sandy are just two sides of the same coin, now.
>>154162873I'm kind of hoping that, should the Valentine's Day date actually happen instead of getting ignored for another unwanted Paisy chapter, Mike realizes does not have the energy to keep up the facade. It would be great if, partway through, he point blank asks Sandy why she wants to be with him in particular so badly. If he doesn't feel backed into the corner by her guilt-tripping, then Mike should be in a good position to really pick apart her excuses (because we all know that's all she has to offer, as written by Taeshi).
>>154149370I read this and I get mad LMAOWhat a piece of shitAlso I'm 100% sure that Paulo is Soupy self insert.She is torturing Mike non stop and giving free cake to Paulo in an attempt to phytologically validate her decision of staying with an asshole.
>>154162931>Also I'm 100% sure that Paulo is Soupy self insertIs that why Paulo is portrayed as such a soggy whiny bitch?
>>154162520>So could MikeYes but he is being chained since he is scared that she might try to off herself like Lucy did. Sandy has no such perceived qualms. She is the one directly guilt tripping him to stay in the sham of a relationship, not the other way around
>>154162823Her complaining about her mom doesn't invalidate or countermand Sandy's overwhelming enthusiasm about her actual modeling career. Any talk about being happy with Mike is also a transparent lie at this point and I have no idea how some anons talk themselves into actually believing her after she ghosted scarf cat for months and casually dumped his ass.
>>154162873>Lucy and Sandy are just two sides of the same coinHey now, let's not resort to slander. Sandy's opening her heart to Mike NOW. She didn't win him back only to immediately default back to gaslighting and denial.>>154163220What? Sandy's the one who brought up the concern in the first place by worrying about Mike.
>>154162520>Probably even easier than Sandy, since he's invested a lot less into the relationship in terms of effort and is actively miserable in it.If he wasn't guilted by Lucy's suicide attempt, then yes, he probably would walk away easier or wouldn't have taken him back in the first place. But that doesn't change that sandy ran back to him quick and start guilt tripping him to stay with her. If she's unhappy "Dating a little boy as a full grown adult" then she could have found someone else that could deal with her that wasnt Mike or her hair dresser
>>154162921> he point blank asks Sandy why she wants to be with him in particular so badly. If he doesn't feel backed into the corner by her guilt-tripping, then Mike should be in a good position to really pick apart her excuses (because we all know that's all she has to offer, as written by Taeshi).Can Mike do that without Sandy deciding to kill herself later? I would enjoy Sandy trying to explain why the fuck she wanted this "relationship" back. Issue though, I don't think the explanation will be good or make sense. Not like in character bad logic, but more like, Taeshi thinks she is a genius, writing bad.
>>154163289>Sandy's opening her heart to Mike NOWSure she is.>She didn't win him back only to immediately default back to gaslighting and denialNo, she won him back by doing both of those things, in addition to guilttripping.>Sandy's the one who brought up the concern in the first place by worrying about MikeOnly Sandy could be vapid enough to believe Mike would off himself because she broke up with him. But let's be real, this would have been the first and only time since her character assassination that Sandy showed any level of concern over Mike's wellbeing.
>>154163306>Can Mike do that without Sandy deciding to kill herself later?Anons really need to stop repeating this notion. It's never been stated as a concern that Mike takes seriously. Sure, he doesn't want to abandon Sandy if he's really all she has, but he has every reason to be skeptical that she can't find someone else to replace him. It's already happened once, after all.
>>154163293See >>154163289. Mike worrying that a "whitecat attempts suicide because ???" scenario would happen again is never outright stated - Sandy is the one who says she's worried Mike might "do something bad". That concern on her part then makes Mike go "oh right, I'm responsible for the emotional wellbeing of everyone I know", which he says is why he took her back. But he's also visibly happy to have his relationship with her going well up until LitS, at which point he's in full "I'm a terrible person" mode thanks to Augustus. Because Taeshi cannot help but randomly reshuffle character motives every couple months.
>>154163306I doubt Sandy would kill herself if she's been surviving in the fashion world. She isnt Lucy.
>>154163336>Sandy showed any level of concern over Mike's wellbeing.Aren't the only people who have shown concern for Mike not eating been Paulo and Mike's mother? The latter being a bad parent about the whole thing?>>154163371I was thinking more along the lines of "Taeshi wants to make Mike the bad guy." Same writer who made Mike getting cheated on about Lucy's feelings btw.
>>154163408I dont think Paulo has shown concern about that bit specifically. He just happened to check on him when coming across him while outside of Lucyspace
>>154163408>I was thinking more along the lines of "Taeshi wants to make Mike the bad guy."Oh, yeah that makes sense. But I'm sure that if Mike did actually cut things off with Sandy, designated devil cat would instead get upset and throw her glass of wine in Mike's face before storming out of the restaraunt. You know, Taeshi projecting Lucy's reaction onto Sandy but labeling it bad/immature instead of justified/sympathetic. Likewise, Sandy must live to seeth in a reverse Goldiemald scenario while Lucy wins the Mike Bowl.
>>154163437>I dont think Paulo has shown concern about that bit specifically.Paulo did give him an apple one time, right? Honestly, Mike doesn't need Sandy for drama or sunk-cost feeling; his "friends" are a wellspring.
>>154163437>I dont think Paulo has shown concern about that bit specificallyThere was actually a page where he threw an apple at Mike and told him to eat. It was shortly before Mike apologized to everyone for the spergfits.
>>154163484I do think that, for all of Paulo's many shortcomings, he at least has evolved enough to sincerely care for Mike. The problem is that concern is easily out-prioritized by other matters (like making sure Lucy stays at the table even though she was doing just fine elsewhere).
>>154163371As the other anon said, if anything Sandy was worried about Mike killing himself than the other way around Taeshi even confirmed in a post that Mike didn't think she was suicidal when he took her back so there's totally nothing supporting the headcanon it just came out of nowhere
>>154163493I was thinking more recently where the self starving and fatigue is more of a problem
>>154163591Oh, you mean where he left his "best friend" wandering off with full knowledge he is starving himself and being evasive. Where he just lets Mike walk off vs confronting him as he did with Lucy, and or just talking to Mike like Mike did with him on New Year's? The clear gap in care is palpable.
>>154163336The idea that Sandy doesn't care about Mike makes no sense; every conversation that they've ever had, both before and after EF, has included Sandy been trying to cheer Mike up and/or telling him he's great. Since EF, she's been telling him about her life and her frustrations daily, but also constantly mentions how impressive Mike is and how much she admires him.>>154163484>Paulo did give him an apple one time, right?He threw an apple at Mike's head. Paulo noticed Mike wasn't eating and insisted Mike take better care of himself, but even that gesture of kindness was only delivered in the most hostile jackass way possible.
>>154163582>so there's totally nothing supporting the headcanon it just came out of nowhereOh far from it, anon. The headcanon came out of a desire to figure out why the absolute fuck Mike would have taken Sandy back. Concern over Sandy pulling her own Lucy Leap and Ketchup Kersplat made sense due to Mike's existing guilt. Why wouldn't the possibility be on the forefront of his mind, especially with Sandy's (highly dubious) claim that she depends on him so much? Taeshi has done such a poor job explaining Mike's reasons that I am not at all surprised that the much more compelling headcanon dominates.
>>154163708>Since EF, she's been telling him about her life and her frustrations daily, but also constantly mentions how impressive Mike is and how much she admires him.Anon, that is the issue. She did all that after having cheated on the guy. It comes off as overcompensation rather than anything genuine. Sandy hasn't actually done anything to deserve being trusted.>>154163708> That gesture of kindness was only delivered in the most hostile jackass way possible.Seriously, he really hasn't changed when it comes to Mike.
>>154163708>The idea that Sandy doesn't care about Mike makes no senseSure, if you ignore that she ghosted him for months, hid the whole Francis thing from him during her visit, tried to guilt trip Mike for being upset when she did finally fess up, then casually dumped Mike once he threw too much of a fuss. These are not the actions of someone who actually cares about or values scarf cat as a person. Empty words and hollow platitudes are very poor counterevidence.
>>154163760Paulo's methods for helping Mike have been roundly counterproductive and borderline retarded. He cares about Mike's wellbeing but it's like being an asshole or crying like a bitch are the only two ways he knows how to express himself.
>>154163582It's a cope by Mikefags to explain how their boy totally isn't just a delusional moron, he's actually super self-sacrificing and doing everything for the sake of others.
>>154163854Was that pic meant to illustrate what a delusional moron pretending to be super self-sacrificing and doing everything for the sake of others looks like?
>>154163854Stop trying to kick up a consolewar over these stupid cats, cuck.
>>154163708Did you somehow miss the months of ghosting and dumping him without a care in EF when he was rightfully pissed?
>>154163882I really hope it's not supposed to be Lucy refusing to enjoy herself around her friends, as intended by Taeshi. Modern Lucy seems like way too much of a spiteful bitch to feel anything warm and fuzzy inside. And it's not as if the conflict is going to be "oh noes I am fucking nuts for subconsciously hating my friends while actively enjoying their company, something is wrong with me!" Because that's just not how Taeshi writes these days.
>>154163882Yeah. Taeshi has a habit of writing characters as incredibly unsympathetic, and then going "but you're still supposed to sympathize with them tho". These threads have convinced themselves that Mike is the exception, because he's so blatantly shit on that it's impossible he's meant to be sympathetic. But he's actually the most blatant example. Taeshi thinks Mike's done all this awful shit, and will actively deny any attempt to rationalize his motives or intentions by fans. But she still sympathizes with him and wants others to as well. Because Taeshi likes impulsive, jealous, self-centered dumbfucks who hurts others for no reason whatsoever. And Mike is one of her favorites.
>>154164046Midwit take. 1st grade level reading comprehension.
>>154162568>Mike picking Lucy isn't an option because ????>Sandy sticking with her pedophile groomer IS an option for her though Ok lol
>>154164097>Sandy sticking with her pedophile groomer IS an option for her thoughApparently it was, since he allegedly got fired. I won't be surprised to learn that he quit, though.
>>154163884>"Mike has literally never done anything wrong">"Sandy and Lucy are whores who've cucked Mike">"Every other character has betrayed Mike by lapsing in their duty of glazing him for being so great">"Mike was justified in that unprompted crashout because (shit that had already been resolved)">"Mike was manipulated into doing that dumb thing by others preying on his noble concern and compassion"Anon(s) point out that Mike has done dumb bullshit for no good reason>"Stop trying to consolewars over these dumb cats"
>>154164730Mike's fans act like actual kikes it's hilarious
>>154163518Honestly I won't take Paulo's care for Mike seriously until he does something drastic as the retarded promise he made to Lucy, who also told him to not worry and mind his own business but that time he didn't back down, unlike this last time because "he said he was ok">But they know Lucy is brittle where Mike isn'tThat doesn't really excuse it, don't offer help to your friends until you see them bleed on the floor because you thought they were tuff
>>154164730>>154164805I know the madness of Mike hatred well. I glimpsed it lurking at the ragged edges of your mind. I watched its venom spread through the veins of your posts, and I trembled at its terrible reverberations. But I have seen its true nature. Beneath its bluster, deep within the debris of its crushing collapse, there lies a noble road. It calls out if your brave enough to believe, that you are not a prisoner of your past, that the fractured bones of your sanity can be mended, that a fragile flame long guttered by sour winds can blaze radiant once again. The time has come to face your failures, or be consumed by them.
Why do you people even discuss Sandy? She has just regressed as a character, just like every character in this comic. That's it, 16(?) years of comic for nothing, there is no payoff here.
>>154164960We're simply getting into the headspace of the author, who rages and seethes over Goldie who has been completely gone from Taeshi and Suitcase's lives for over twenty years now.
>>154164730Lucy is a rapist, infocats.nyan
>>154164730>Mikefags when the softest criticisms are laid upon Mike in a situation he was objectively in the wrong for
>>154164960because she is intrinsically tied to Mike/Lucy and in the meta sense Goldie, so Lucy will perpetually seethe about her
>>154164730>>154164805>>154165174>can't tell the difference between bitching about these retarded characters and whining about Mikefags for the thousandth timeMikespergs are retarded, news at 11.
Guys he's circlejerking again
>>154165341Yeah, Sandyfag is a weirdo like that.
Actually, why DOES lucy hate her friends so much? I know taeshi is trying to shove the dream thing in there but she was like this before she even pulled the idea out of a hat. There's no real reason for her to be angry towards them.
>>154164947It's frustrating, trying to figure out how much better of a friend Paulo might be with a different author at the helm. I'm a little surprised that Taeshi has not yet found some way to alienate Mike and Paulo but suspect she is cooking away at it.
>>154165390Because she's a shit person.
>>154165437She will do it as the final thing that pushes Mike over the edge, and then act surprised if/when people wonder why paulo would do such a thing at this point
>>154165174>>154165277Facing oblivion, these folk have kept their honor. Have you?
>>154165390Pretending for a moment that this comic is not hamstrung by Taeshi's personal neuroses? Lucy has literally insane trust issues. Before Taeshi crashed out, Lucy was standoffish because she didn't want to show any emotional vulnerability. You could probably make up some story about Lucy walling herself off at her new school because she doesn't know anybody and then regressing so hard that she holds her old friends at arm's length. But that would be headcanon. The way I read it now, without Taeshi's self-pity filter, is that Lucy believes they all betrayed her in some way. After all, it's so much easier to blame everyone else instead of herself when things go wrong.
>>154165390She will hate or like them randomly because that's how BPD people work.
>>154165458The decade is still young, anon.
>>154165456The easiest way to keep Paulo "sympathetic" is have their falling out be a misunderstanding. But that wastes a golden opportunity for Taeshi to damn Mike over some newly synthesized misdeed and I don't think she will be able to help herself. Which will be another opportunity for some laughs. Lucy getting traumatized by the postal service is and will always remain hilarious.
>>154164953I don't hate Mike, really. He's the most sympathetic of Taeshi's 3 "favorites", since unlike Lucy or Paulo he's not a total unrepentant jackass. He's just got a chip on his shoulder and a curse (a bad combination). But I wouldn't be on 4chan if I wasn't a contrarian, and the Mike defense squad these threads have is tiresome. I know he doesn't fall in the face of chaos, not today, but every time Mike's name appears it's like it activates a signal that compels every anon in the thread to go "Mike deserves better, fuck (whichever character mentioned him)".
>>154165543>Lucy getting traumatized by the postal service is and will always remain hilarious.Lucy's greatest enemy and the final boss of her nightmares.
People glaze Mike like he's a character from a different comic written by a different author who is losing some sort of eternal narrative battle with Taeshi for the fate of Mike's soul. You forget everyone in Roseville crawled from the Demiurge's womb and dance to Its music.
>>154165735>sympathetic character gets sympathy>stacking bullshit begets outrageWoah, stop the fucking presses.
>>154165735>Mike's name appears it's like it activates a signal that compels every anon in the thread to go "Mike deserves better, fuck (whichever character mentioned him)".Two reasons for me at least.1) There arent many sympathetic characters to root for in this comic. Like for me, maybe the only other one is Sue because she gets wrecked for her ego even if she isnt that bad sometimes.2) Mike gets it really bad. Well, he's always gotten it really bad, but ever since LitS it's been especially obnoxious with how hard she's tried to justify why Mike is at fault for that event and why he wouldn't even be able to leave town and adjust fine. Then recent pages have it where just about everyone hates his guts.The bullshit stack causes the reaction that he deserves better.
>>154165735Consistently funny how little Tae cares about Daisy.
>>154165818Mike resisted once> Dating Sandy>Calling Lucy a parasite( she is)And the world has seen fit to break him, slowly. It's possible to resist but Mike was cursed since he was in his mother's womb due to their mom being old friends, so he was gonna meet Lucy.
>>154163760It doesn't come off as false flattery to me. Sandy didn't start lavishing praise on Mike after EF, she's always done that. It's just more frequent now that they're back to talking often. And I still say that Taeshi making it so the guy Sandy cheated with was an older coworker unintentionally absolved Sandy of a lot of guilt. What is it with Taeshi and "they were asking for it", anyways? This is like the third or fourth instance in the comic where she's gone all "no, you guys don't get it, this instance of SA reflects badly on the victim and they actually wanted it".
To be blunt, I've rarely seen any good anti-Mike arguments that aren't just pointing out his annoying personal weaknesses that most anons already agree on. Too often we get random anons crashing out over their bizarre vendettas against the character or screeching about Mikefags. It's so rare to get a detractor with a novel take who actually argues in good faith. That would make for a refreshing change of pace.
>>154165818You still foolishly consider them an entity separate from the whole. I know better. And I. Will. Show you.
>>154165984>unnecessary spoilerTaeshi is a bad person who plays favorites and would happily be an IRL bully if she wasn't also a total coward. It's easy to note those tendencies in her writing.
>>154165984Because turns out you can't have both your favorite characters be assholes with inclinations to rape and likeable at the same time, and her damage control has always been blaming the victim as the one who deserved it. Which is why the time Lucy tried to rape Augustus was swept under the rug and never brought up again, it doesn't help the narrative
>>154165818>like he's a character from a different comic written by a different authorAfter nearly two decades and Taeshi shitting up every aspect of BCB (even the older chapters were redrawn and rewritten) it really is a different comic with a different author.
>>154165919I get it. Like I said, I'm here because I'm a contrarian. But every single time some anon DARES to go "Yeah, but Mike sucks too" we get 100+ posts of anons sperging out over how Mike dindu noffin and if he did it was justified and if it wasn't then it's the whitecats fault for manipulating him. We get the occasional Paulofag or Sandy defender schizophrenically popping off when someone says "soggy bitch" or "Sandy fucks dogs", but it's not EVERY time.>>154165939Daisy gets no respect, no respect at all.
>>154166031the thing that prevents most good anti mike arguments is just how little of it is the fault of his own doing compared to, at this point, the universe shitting on him harder than most. Him taking Sandy back was absolutely a bad decision and so was entertaining Augustus's original "Stay inside" plan. His december speech was very harsh and the sperg era (As inorganic as it was) made him look bad both in and out of universe. But he's apologized for those and it's stuck. Apologizing, while it can come off as spineless sometimes, is the one thing that puts him higher above other characters in the comic than it really shouldTake those away and its just things overly shitting on a guy for not picking his abusive childhood friend. He and one of the other characters can make the same mistake but the other character can either suffer no consequences or apologize and get forgiven, while Mike has it held over his head for years real time.TLDR: You can't get much of a good argument out of a character in a siutaion where most stuff really isn't their fault and the author fails at being even handed.
>>154165390Displacement. Lucy can't be blamed for her suicide attempt, but Taeshi won't let go of it either: so it's everyone else's fault>Mike's for neglecting her>Paulo's for shacking up with Jasmine>Daisy for resenting her>Sue's for the play>Her family's for sending her awayLucy's poison, everyone should avoid her.
>>154166419Actually Paulo was almost totally at fault, the sex was just that bad.
>>154166219>picFucking hell Lucy is short. Also when is this photo supposed to have been taken? Paulo only shore off his cheek fur after December so Mike and Lucy should absolutely NOT be enjoying each other's company.
>>154166031Here's one for the road: Mike puts bizarrely little effort in to be as "popular" as he is. He has this in-and-out-of-universe reputation as the golden boy, the popular kid in his class who everyone likes and/or has a crush on, and even his loneliness and exile are ostensibly due to characters like Paulo thinking "he's Mike, he's got a million friends, he'll be right" without realizing that he will in fact not be right.But like, why? How did Mike, a shy dork with decent but unexceptional grades, who demurs from socializing most of the time, and is kind of flakey and forgetful when he does, end up with this image as unbreakably reliable, the popular guy in his grade who's a beloved friend of all? He's kind, athletic in a physics-defying anime feats kind of way, and supposedly very cute, but his actual social circle of people he interacts with is smaller than Daisy's, and it's not like he's constantly going out of his way for strangers. So why does he have this rep as everyone's favorite guy, who everyone's awed and inspired by (and secretly resents for being so perfect)?
>>154166551IIRC back in Volume 1 he was a lot less nebbish and demure.And he's allegedly good looking, which in BCB is a superpower.
>>154166551Taeshi's descriptions of characters don't really reflect their actions very well. The last time we saw Mike hanging out with Sue, Abbey, etc was that stupid flashback chapter that was only there to justify why Paulo was being a prick to Daisy that one time. Ever since he's just moping to himself and acting like he only had James... while Taeshi also refuses to just draw pages of him hanging out with anyone else. It'd actually be a nice break from the misery porn WHICH IS WHY SHE WON'T DRAW IT.Vs Lucy who is also super popular despite being a cunt, but she's getting people going out of their way to come to her and bring her in and Taeshi draws her being fawned over all the fucking time.Most of these characters shouldn't have any friends realistically.
>>154166045Very good. Apropos.>>154166493I've said before, and still believe, that Taeshi does not see BCB as a story. She sees it as a setting. There's a cast of characters, and a loose framework of their dynamics and relationships, but it's like capeshit; there's not really "continuity" so much as there are "arcs", and if they contradict or clash with other "arcs", or have paradoxes in their internal logic, don't worry about it.
>>154166551Mostly another symptom of Taeshi refusing to acknowledge that old volume 1 dynamics no longer apply to her characters. I think this golden boy Mr. Popular reputation made sense back when we saw him actively doing stuff for others like helping them study or openly taking care of Lucy and regularly doing well in athletics. We also got a glimpse of why he'd be well-liked during the chapter with Stacy. But after the spergfits and slamming Paulo's head against the table? You are correct that his popularity should not make sense unless we headcanon him still regularly going out of his way for others. Taeshi has as per usual failed to set up what should be a significant aspect of Mike's fall from grace, leaving Paulo looking like a jealous moron with an ancient chip on his shoulder.
>>154166551>So why does he have this rep as everyone's favorite guy, who everyone's awed and inspired by (and secretly resents for being so perfect)?How long has it been since he's been portrayed like this though? The guy cant hang out with anyone else without a chance of things going horribly wrong. If he just lost his popularity due to incidents and crash outs then i could see that, but Taeshi hasn't shown that sort of thing.>>154166757>Most of these characters shouldn't have any friends realistically.I think most of them would have at least a few friends. But it's more like the table group wouldn't be friends with each other, at least not for this long. Realistically they would have all broken off into other groups with shared interests.
>>154165390Lucy is aggressively sexist. She believes all boys are either assholes who are only interested in her tight little body, or wimps, and all girls are either dumb whores, or useless. Lucy hates Mike, Abbey, and Augustus because by not fucking her they're diminishing her internalized metric of self-worth, and failing to live up to her standards of masculinity. Lucy hates Sue, Daisy, and Tess because by not accepting that her being hotter makes her better than them they're clearly angling to be her rivals, and failing to live up to her standards of femininity. Lucy hates Paulo (but slightly less) because despite living down to her standards, he A: betrayed her by going for other girls and B: wants things from her other than sex.>>154166602>IIRC back in Volume 1 he was a lot less nebbish and demure.He was, but he still wasn't some social butterfly. He usually usually said no to invitations, and when he was with others he would often split off to do stuff by himself.
>>154165390Because is an insane bipolar bitch. She's the type of person you'd either have to jump through a ton of hoops for or have had cemented yourself with early on for her to view you somewhat favorably and even then she will still treat you like shit.
>>154166946>How long has it been since he's been portrayed like this though?That's actually a good point. The only examples of Mike popularity we've seen in a good long while have been isolated examples. >James and the Track TeamA result of James being a weird flighty stalker who decided Mike would be his next new shiny thing>Paulo's jealousyA longstanding and deep-seated ancient grudge that flared up because of the attention Mike got from James and perhaps Lucy>Mike's mom + disgruntled sisterMike gets good grades and actually obeys his mom so it's unfortunate but understandable that she heaps praise on him. Likewise, Haley's probably misplaced anger. Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think we've seen any overarching positive vibe toward Mike from the school at large in a long, long-ass time.
Mike changed the color of his fur to look more like Lucy, thus confusing Lucyspace.
>>154167263>"why are you white?!">"nanomachines of the heart, son">"they harden in response to emotional trauma"
>>154166551>everyone's favorite guy, who everyone's awed and inspired byNo one "ehehs" quite like Mike, shakes their head quite like Mike,no one's fur is so silky and bright quite like Mike!For there's no boy in school half as twinkish, perfect a pure paragon!You can ask any sogg, jock, or Daisy, and they'll tell you who's team they'd prefer to be on!No one runs quick like Mike does,buys friends drinks like Mike does,in a river nobody else sinks like Mike does!As a specimen, yes, he's pitiable!My what a guy, that ol' Mike!No one... gets cucked like Mike does,throws tantrums like Mike does,mopes about how much he sucks like Mike does!For there's no one so sadsack and scrawny,as you see he's got pathos to spare. (That's right...)And he'll whine about how it's all so unfair!No one gets choked like Mike does,absorbs blows like Mike does,no one contemplates using their scarf as a rope like Mike does!He's especially patient at tanking abuse! (Jerkface!)Congratulations poor Mike!
>>154166551are you envious of a manlet imaginary cat?lollmao
>>154167855You seem panicked.
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>>154168146Hilarious
>>154168146>Paulo spends time>His talent for time-wasting.
>>154168146Alternate version, Daisy's description was still relevant but there was a pun to be made and I will not be stopped.
>>154167744>in a river nobody else sinks like Mike doeskek
>>154162359>>154162520Sorry, but I gotta disagree with you and agree with >>154161485. I WISH Sandy was actually an interesting character, but based on what Taeshi said here >>154157588, where she admits Sandy actually liked and wanted all of that Francis situation and didn't regret it at all, and on the fact that she is gleefully speaking about her job now do not paint a good picture for her case.I had hopes that she was actually a deep character with lots of personal drama on her end, but it turns out she is just a hoe.But that's alright, because, according to the comic, teens are above and beyond consequences and are always cunts, and if they aren't, they're wrong and boring and nerds and losers.
>>154168504I love this fuckin' stupid type of shit so much.
>>154166551I've said this before in another thread, but Mike's mt favorite by default. Everyone else just fucking sucks and pisses me off. And by everyone, I mean the others who get enough screen time to be relevant enough (rip sue). I fucking despise Paulo in part cuz he's a fucking soggy jackass, and that mainly cuz he got WAY too many chapters back to back in his name.Also, I feel like the Mike Defense Squad only picked up steam due to LitS. Cuz lemme tell ya, post Eternal Flame? Mike stocks were in the gutter, hell I fucking hated Mike for going back to Sandy, but I became sympathetic towards him once again.So yeah, Mike is currently the most sympathetic for me. Everyone else has been taking Ws while Mike has been taking nothing but Ls for the past decade.
>>154169417Yeah same. Even though I hate Mike's lack of spine and his sperg moments, I tend to default to supporting him because 1: everyone else sucks 10x more, and 2: the game is rigged against him.He is the only dude who consistently gets punished in the entire comic, despite at least trying to do good, to be loyal to his gf, etc.Meanwhile you have characters like Lucy or David who don't get even a slap on the wrist, ever. They're either always right, liked, or are instantly forgiven. Not to mention others like James or Augustus.Mike gets cheated on, ostracized, kicked, humiliated, abandoned by his 'best friend' Paulo, neglected by his parents... how am I not supposed to sympathize with him, when he is the only one who goes through all that?I did get pissed after Eternal Flame. His decision made no sense, and the fucking comic which was supposed to explain it did a terrible job justifying it. I've only taken his side again after Line in the Sand, like you said.
>>154169417Expected. Eternal Flame at the time was Mike being a massive retard, but then the cut phone call apparently happened. Also since then, once again, just about everyone else has proven to just be way the fuck worse. Yet they get off scot free while the universe continues to kick grey cat while he's down for the crime of not perpetually kissing his abuser's ass who is far more guilty of the crimes she thrusts upon him
>>154167187>Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think we've seen any overarching positive vibe toward Mike from the school at large in a long, long-ass timeThere hasn't been one in years. The school doesn't hate mike per say, but he's not popular either. he's just another student there. Although I have no doubt that Taeshi will eventually do something to have the whole school hate Mike.
>>154168504I want in on the fun.
>>154169417>>154169547I mean, I tend to fall on Mikes side when it's him vs Paulo, Lucy, or Augustus too. But I can't bring myself to actually sympathize with him. He keeps getting handed opportunities to help himself and going "no, I choose to be miserable" out of repentance to Lucy or whatever. At this point I want him to stay with Sandy purely because she seems to want him to, and this miserable fucking comic needs at least ONE character who's happy with their relationship status.
At least Mike isn't getting constantly physically abused anymore. That's a silver lining.>Inb4 the date with Sandy gets so bad, and she hits him.If that actually happened, my sides would explode and so would my brain with rage.
>>154169899I would laugh my ass off. It would be the final proof that Mike is just outright cursed.
what would make you guys drop off the comic for good? I know we are mostly here for the bullshit moments but I'm curious if there's actually anything that would push you away from these threads
>>154170108Mike dies or is exiled permanently. Taeshi's insane Goldiemalding is the only aspect worthy of attention because it keeps getting more demented. I'm not sticking around for Lucy glazing and sure as hell not subjecting myself to yet more Paisy.
>>154170108The ultimate bullshit moment, the alpha and omega of bullshit moments, the last bullshit moment that shall be destroyed: Mucy. When those two finally get together despite literally everything that should be keeping them separate I'm out. "How can this possibly lead to Mucy?" is the only question left in the comic I want answered.
>>154170108The moment Mike's "redemption" arc even hints at him having to prove himself or make amends for all the made up bullshit like the letters and "manipulation". The moment the comic Taeshi writes and the comic she thinks she's writing show signs of merging I'm out until it ends and that's only to come hang with you guys one last time
>>154170108Daisy is written off one way or another. I know it's a minority position, but Daisy is one of only three extant characters I like, and the only one who has any kind of current plot. Once Taeshi stops pretending to give a shit about Daisy and goes "that's it, Paisy is stable now" or ships Daisy off to college early or whatever, then that's it, there's no longer anything this comic can tease that's of any interest to me.
>>154170338>"that's it, Paisy is stable now"Anon, I have bad news.
>>154170108Anybody still investing energy in Bittersweet Candy Bowl at this point would take nothing less than the complete eradication of mankind as a reason to stop offering engagement. They're as psychologically broken over it as Taeshi is, maybe even moreso, with far less excuses than her, and cope over it in the same ways that she does. Ignore all replies before and after this one.
>>154170108I'm honestly more invested in the goofy edits than the comic itself. These threads die and I'll forget about it for another few years.
>>154167744bravo Taeshi
>>154150240>"Feh.. it's for Augustus" Lucy tells herself after initiating bareback creampie sex with Alejandro for the fifth time in one day
>>154164960Because she's the only person in the "main" love triangle who ever does anything, so it's impossible to talk about Mike or Lucy without talking about Sandy.Hell, the whole reason the plot moves at all is because she occasionally shows up to push it along. You could skip every chapter that doesn't have Sandy in it, and you'd still get the entirety of the central Mike/Lucy plot. All you'd miss would be B-plots like the Pauloshow, and looooong establishing chapters showing how SAD Mike and Lucy are.
>>154170108If Mike's "redemption" ends up with him having to make december up to lucy despite the shit she's pulled since coming back and her not having to change her ways or learn a thing because the narrative bends over for her
>>154166757It's hard to feel like Mike getting exiled from the table means anything when Taeshi never fucking writes them hanging out in the first place. When was the last time ANY two characters had fun together without one of them crying or being pissy?
>>154170457And you are the one in deepest by far.
>>154171915In theory, Mike might eventually find another group that's dramaless.But if he did, James, David, and/or Augustus would just go and fuck it up. Again.
>>154171955Hard to socialize and find another group while exiled from the lunch room entirely.
>>154172172Find the delinquent bros who are too cool for the lunch room
>>154172172>Hard to socialize and find another group while exiled from the lunch room entirely.it's fucking mike, looks alone will have any outcast group/outcast interested
>>154170108My copium is waiting for the big payoff between Mike and Lucy, even though it's looking less and less likely. What's the payoff? Mainly the both of them making up, Mike growing a spine, and an actual proper fucking apology between them. I want to see Lucy get called out for her shitty behaviour, that her trauma isn't a shield against valid criticisms. And for Mike, to quit the whole martyr complex and have some fucking self-respect.I don't ask for much, I have no illusions about Augustus getting his just desserts. I sure would love for him to get smacked for keeping his phone on though. I also want James to get called out for his shit too, nothing extreme, just that what he pulled wasn't ok. David's a long shot, but I god I just want him to take an L for once. His ass needs humbling, and no, Amaya ripping into him doesn't count since it happened off screen he still insulted Sue afterwards.
It's crazy to see how active these threads get when it isn't Paisy at the forefront lmfao.
>>154170382You're delusional if you don't the worst thing to happen to them is just a bad argument. Bagfag ain't lettin his golden turd flush that easily, Paulo and Daisy will argue only to make up in a few pages after. There's zero stakes in Paisy, that's what makes it so fucking boring.
>>154172676Maybe if he had a time machine.
>>154172981That's the point of the reaction, genius.
>>154172822I believe the thing we're all waiting for is for Lucy to have some fucking alone time no pressure no bullshit introspection they sticks and changes her, we're waiting for her to get to the fireworks factory when Taeshi insists she lives there. Lucy being the character with the most troubled personality that doesn't do anything about it and the world just twists itself to handle things for her is what makes her a horrible character, if she was just an asshole that refuses to change but suffered for it WITHOUT OT BEING DONE SORT OF SACRIFICE TAESHI YOU HACK she wouldn't be half as bad
>>154173298I do sometimes wonder if this is one of those manic periods when Taeshi lets her Goldiemalding BPD run wild, then regrets it later. Kind of like how she bumbled her way into undermining the December crashout by softening Lucy's antics in the omnibus. But I don't hold out hope because frankly it's hard to regret anything that you're learned to overwrite on a whim.
>>154170108When Taeshi confirms that there won't be any consequences for her flawless favorite abusers, therefore proving the whole premise is why you should shut up and take your beatings for the sake of the group (eastern morality)
>>154172676This was back then, now he is dead and forgotten>>154172922Nobody cares about Paisy, not even Taeshi.
>>154172458Japanese delinquent arc Mike would be fun.
>>154174312Something that annoys me about dead inside Mike is that he's basically a blank slate that could be pushed in so many different direction, and I know beyond any shadow of a doubt that Taeshi will pick the least interesting one possible. It will also be incredibly stupid.
>>154174388Nothing interesting will ever happen with him until Taeshi is disallowed from writing Mike and someone else gets to handle him. She will never write him as anything but a miserable wretch despite how easily he CAN fix his shit, because if he was anything BUT a miserable wretch he wouldn't be as vulnerable to Sandy and Lucy's shit.Mucy cannot happen if Mike stops being a whelp because no one but a simp would tolerate Lucy as a partner.
>>154174312Nah man, Mike would fit more finding himself on a Cromartie situation
>>154174463I can't help but notice how passive each of these "characters" are unless one suddenly becomes the chapter's designated plot-mover. Often enough that falls to Lucy, which is why these instances seem so out of character.
>>154175251New thread
>>154174388>Something that annoys me about dead inside Mike is that he's basically a blank slate that could be pushed in so many different directionGo write some fix-it fics then.
