Because those were likely planned from the start, and the leads were very obviously done for pandering to their audience

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>the bridge scene

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>not shipped together but actually had chemistry

>>154149626
Because this relationship was created purely to appease the shippers rather than it being a writer decision
You can tell they wanted to milk the shippers when their relationship is the only thing about them
Also the character going
>Well took them long enough
Or something similar

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>>154151938
>this relationship was created purely to appease the shippers rather than it being a writer decision
Just like half the ships in Fairy Tail, but almost nobody in those threads wants to admit it.

>>154150166
Freezerburn, like White Knight, was running on fumes of a single scene from Season 5, and then season 9 obliterated freezerburn into the ground with the one-two punch of canon bumblebee and Weiss drooling over macho Jaune.

>>154152854
I mean, at least FT is shoving tits and ass in your face all the time. It's slop, but it's unashamed about being slop.

>>154153051
Fairy Tail is so corny its forgivable to me at least
Not as bad as the Seven Deadly Sins

>>154149626
Because they're shit at writing romance. It took them ten fucking years to get around to actually making this relationship official despite having it planned since at least volume 2.

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>>154155352
>despite having it planned since at least volume 2.

>>154149626
>Rushed
Honestly considering it takes place over three Voumes (maybe four if you want to count six) it's not exactly rushed
>half assed
Yes, this part is accurate though.

Blake and Weiss would have been hottest. Especially if Weiss stayed racist.

>>154150166
Weiss is just a dating sim protag with the rest of RWBY being a potential love interest.

>>154149626
Wait did we get an announcement for vol 10? Why is there a rwby thread?

>>154155369
Frankly Blake has enough waifu rizz for the mixed harem, they shouldn't be cowards about it.

>>154156067
Get off the internet shitty kitty

>>154155369
It's called a love triangle, genius. Anyway I don't even like Sun, he's annoying as hell.

>>154149626
It's genuinely saying something that they messed up a ship that is easy as Bumblby. Korrasami and Bubbline weren't as forced as this one.
>the time that they got together is because they were literally FORCED to kiss each other or they would die or something
Volume 9 is so bad.

>>154156360
I disagree on that, I still think Korrasami was worse and had even less development and more awkwardness around it thanks to Korra and Asami's "relationship" in season 1. But at this point we're just arguing "Who's romance isn't as shitty?" And what's even the point of that, they both still suck.

>>154149626
Yang and Weiss in season 5 had more chemistry, no Im not a shipper, Im just shoeing how poorly developed Bumblebee is

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>>154155369
Sun could also do better.

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Never rub The Rube's rhubarb, Blake . . .

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>>154149626

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>>154150166
>>154157346
BASED

>>154150166
>>154159312
It would at least give Weiss a character arc that she's been missing since Volume 4.

>>154157346
>>154159312
Disgusting gays. No one likes seeing dudes make out.

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>>154159444
>nominated for Best Picture and won for Best Director, Best Adapted Screenplay, and Original Score

>>154159470
based

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>>154149626

>>154149626
Bumblebee was shitty Lesbian Oedipus complex that made zero sense but its not like RWBY had a single good romance in the first place

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>>154161851
>shitty Oedipus complex
I mean . . .

>>154161870
Technically added cannon from Dragon Ball Super but Saiyans look naturally for strong-willed partner also Goku was an infant the last time he saw his mom so he's can't exactly do the projection of her for a good spouse when he never does it and it's not a complex it's something that happens naturally if you actually get along with your parents.

>>154156301
>Thinking best boy is annoying.
It’s okay to be wrong.

>>154161900
>best boy
He's talking about Sun, not Ren.

>>154161870
>key part of Yang's dynamic was being hang-up over flighty insecure mom that abandoned her
>fandom decides that she wants to fuck flighty insecure partner that abandons her despite how Yang seethed over Raven
Bumblebee-shippers were always insane and disrespectful to Yang's character

>>154161998
Imagine if Blake was a guy. Would they still be ok with it after all the shit Yang gets put through?

>>154162394
Judging by the amount of hate Jaune gets despite being inoffensive loser with limited screentime, fandom would have crucified Blake if she had been guy

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>>154161941
>Ren the jobbing cuck
>best boy
Shitposting online won't make Nora pay attention to you Ren

>>154162550
Man peaked in vol 1. Tragic.

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>>154162550
He'll be fine without her.

>>154162600
>friendzoned by Nora, cucked by Cyborg in the canon crossover
>technically got Blake but somehow ended up being cucked by Jaune anyway due Blake's Rusted Knight fetish
Sunflower truly is the cuckshed of RWBY-ships and that makes it pretty wholesome desu

>>154162394
if Blake was a guy she would be just another Ren

>>154161998
>fandom decides that she wants to fuck flighty insecure partner that abandons her despite how Yang seethed over Raven
Ah, speed-watchers with no media literacy who just somehow ignore Yang confronting both Raven and Blake over this exact point and getting closure / resolution. Maybe look up from your phone once in a while when watching shows?

>>154162423
The Jaune hate still baffles me.
Calling him Miles self insert seems silly to me, a self insert character should be cool like you’d imagine yourself to be in the show, but Jaune is a fucking dork who’s never won a meaningful fight by himself, even his Semblance just makes him the party healslut.

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>>154163188
>a self insert character should be cool
Boy, have you seen the most popular characters among self-inserters?

>>154163188
>Jaune is a fucking dork who’s never won a meaningful fight by himself, even his Semblance just makes him the party healslut.
To be fair... Jaune is a healslut in RWBY now. I mean, what is there to be angry about being the heal slut in a group of women?

>>154163188
>a self insert character should be cool
The character doesnt need to be a mary/gary stu to be a self insert

>>154156301
See, I would agree with you on the love triangle but they would need to set up Bumblebee at the same time as Blacksun and they simply didn't do that. There are what, three scenes that are potentially Bumblebee and they can all easily be platonic. In the early seasons Bumblebee is schizo delusions compared to Blacksun.

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>>154155369
>Bumblebeefags will say this doesn't count but Yang and Blake standing on the same side of the room in a scene is rock solid proof

>>154155369
the bi-eraser in liberal media is pretty faggoity

>>154149626
The biggest problem with BB is that prior to season 6 they weren't doing anything that any of rwby wouldn't have done for each other. Considering how they handled Ren and Nora, Pyrrha and Jean as well as this shit >>154155369 with sun that lasted all the way to volume 5 mind you. They were not the subtle type. Every other other romance is in your face about it.

>>154163503
To add by the time they did settle on doing it, it was blatantly clear it was because of the popularity instead of an organic writing choice. Just like Neo coming back when she was probably so suppose it have fallen to her death.

>>154163572
>it was blatantly clear it was because of the popularity instead of an organic writing choice
Just like >>154152854

>>154153242
both is slop with serviceable qualities because it's entertainment first and foremost
RWBY tries to be RT's liberal golden egg laying goose when Genlock flopped

I jerk off to Nora having sex with animals

>See interesting looking RWBY fanfic
>Trans character
Nope.

>>154163572
Yeah, they saw how bad Volume 4 and 5 were received and went straight for the "Break in case of emergency" glass. It worked decently until the finale of Volume 7 ruined everything else though.

>>154163188
Have you seen the content featuring Jaune? Almost all of it just features getting with any girl that wouldn’t have found him attractive in canon. They often do this with a lot of lower male characters for some odd reason. Not to mention that if any male is mentioned, they’re usually regulated to being treated as inferior to him cause his Stan’s can’t comprehend anyone other than their self-insert garnering any female attention.

>>154164119
Jaune may be useless loser unable to fight his way out of paper bag, but he was always canonically attractive in RWBY. Pyrrha, those MILFs in Argus and later Weiss all thirsted after the guy so he clearly was handsome in-universe

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>>154163669
>Seven Deadly Sins
>serviceable qualities

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>>154152854
Naruto would've been a more well known example.

>>154164474
Didn't he become Hokage, though?

>>154164513
Yeah, but he also became a neglectful father and husband by doing so.
Naruto as a series is kind of fucked up when you think about how it’s about child soldier who dreams of becoming his nations military dictator.

>>154164474
That was a side-effect of Sasusaku's huge popularity. Also Naruto needed a son because Shueisha was planning Boruto

>>154156360
Korrasami was worse.

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>>154164673
>Sasusaku's huge popularity
But why? I was told tumblr/twitter feminists where demanding Narusaku.

>>154164729
Tumblr is Sasusaku central. Sure, some feminists were rooting for Narusaku but most women were wet for Sasuke and projecting as Sakura. Why? That's female nature

>>154164196
You could argue Nora flirted with him in past volumes too

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>>154164474
>>154164673
>>154164729
>>154164795
Either way, Kishimoto broke one of the golden rules of shonen. >>154161870

>>154164673
Why was Sasusaku so popular, who could give a fuck about them? They don't even interact much for most of the show

>>154164673
>>154164729
>>154164795
>>154164924
Hang on,
>black haired emo teen ninja treats emotionally unstable punch girl like shit, but still bags her in the end simply due to the real world popularity of their godawful ship
. . . . Dear God.

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>>154164605
That's part of why I prefer the original pilot chapter. Always felt that showed more potential. Look it up for yourself sometime.

>>154164704
worse than Bubbline?

>>154165686
yes

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Would Naruto improve significantly if Naruto was a girl?

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Ok, hear me out.

>>154164313
the fact you went there tells volumes what YOU got from it

>>154164513
Yeah but it mostly happens offscreen and Boruto later revealed he didn't even attend his own ceremony (it was one of his friends transformed) because his kids had a fight and his daughter accidentally knocked him out.

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>>154166807
I don't think the world would handle Naruto x Sasuke if one of them was a women.

>>154167388
Naruko x Sasuke is a typical shoujo pairing, except the female lead fix the brooding emo not by being cute but with her fists

>>154149626
Because they sacrificed storytelling to appeal to shippers witb a ship that has less chemistry than Hydrogen.

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Why didn't RWBYJ ask her for help against Salem?

>>154168773
Died offscreen or forgotten pick one.

>>154149626
Because the leads are the status quo. You can do whatever you want to the background charcters, but if you change the status quo you have to get all the previous plotlines done first and if you dont' have anything planned after that you're just fucked.

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Screw ship shitters. What are some of your autistic fanfic ideas?

>>154165686
Yes. Bubbline at least had some semblance of buildup throughout the show. Korrasami had next to none and literally happened last second. Asami also frankly had no reason to like Korra with all the Mako shit and the drama with her dad

>>154152854
Have infinitely more chemistry than Blake and Yang ever had going for them. Grey is just a male tsundere

>>154155541
This whole thing kicked into overdrive in 4 out of nowhere. After some sprinkles in three after the mercury fight and misunderstandings. Same season where Blake blushed over Sun after his team won.

>>154166807
No, but it would if Sasuke was a girl

>>154164119
What bizzaro universe are you from that Jaune is given any sort of credence like that outside of fan fiction? Also, Pyrrha liked him because he was genuine and didn't treat her like some prodigal child like everyone else did.

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>>154155611
Based.
You know Weiss could afford the freakiest sex toys money could buy as well.

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>>154162550
>>154162582
Poor Ren, dude. Worst part was that DC crossover, where Cyborg and Nora were starting to get a bit too close.

>>154169688
I'm guessing you also find Mark x Anissa cute?

>>154168773
Because Volume 9 was completely filler and ultimately achieved nothing beyond killing off Neo.

>>154172534
And it was one of the best Volumes of the show.

>>154172691
>Volume where Jaune gets spotlight immediately becomes highlight
They should have just made him either MC or Ruby's love interest since trying to clown on him kept backfiring anyway

>>154172101
>Ren gets humiliated by black man his love interests falls for
>Jaune gets hot young latina girl thirsting after him
I don't know bros, those self-insert accusations seem to be making more sense now...

>>154173129
Just hope Ruby never meets said hot young latina girl's parents . . .

>>154163147
>Yang confronting both Raven and Blake over this exact point and getting closure / resolution.
Anon, your fanfic isn't canon, it doesn't count that it supposedly happens off-screen.

>>154174157
The whole show has been nothing but fanfiction since season 3 ended.

>>154156408
>>154164704
Korrasami, to my understanding, didn't completely derail shit like Bumblebee did.

You know how you know Bumblebee was just yuri shipper pandering? Because it's written like a fucking shipfic. Like, most actual gays and lesbians who watched the show tapped the fuck out on Bumblebee, a lot of the fucking Bumblebee shippers tapped out on Bumblebee.

All because it was so transparent what was happening there. You could visibly see the character arcs we had been following from the two wither away to the point they could be defeated with the power of love. You can visibly see Adam's character getting changed to fit an antagonist who solely exist to oppose the OTP.

See, /co/ rambles all the time about how much they hate forced gay rep, but the true nature of that forced gay rep isn't simply to pander to gays, it's to pander to AO3.
This is why it all seems so bad, because it's not a romance subplot, it's a fucking fanfiction invading the show to mine for more fanfics and fanart.
It's why when you see 2 gay men in these things, it's always "masculine exclusive top" and "feminine exclusive bottom". Or just seem to have no sexual side to them at times.
Because that's what fujoshi like.
It's why the lesbians always have these weirdly fucked up relationships.
Because toxic yuri is the most popular kind of yuri.

At the end of the day, it was never about "muh gay representation", you mostly get boring characters like Jay Nakamura for that. It was always about the fanfic writers

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to be fair both their arcs were fucking done and they had nothing else going on. Blake's shit with Adam is done, her parents and the white fang? done. Yang's mom issues never actually went anywhere. Lost arm? all cool now.
might as well just hook up them up. Doing it in such a lame and contrived way too.
I think that's why everyone empathized with Ruby's blow up so much. poor girl deserves a break from being dragged into everyone else's bullshit.

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So what's been going down while RWBYJ team were stuck in season 9?

>>154158582
It's crazy that basically everything jello said is correct but this kind of killed his career in hindsight.

>>154175616
Nora became a lesbian
Willow and the Butler fucked

>>154175156
People often confuse the problems with Korrasami with the consequences of it. Korrasami itself is devoid of substance. It basically doesn't exist within the show except for the literal last minute of the show. It's something the creators slipped in as a final shot at immortality. So it's dumb, but has no real impact. Asami was never a real character to start with and Korra was such a fuck up that it's hard to care that she ends up with anyone.
The consequences of Korrasami, the decade of cartoon lesbians that arose in its wake and people trying to one-up it for their own chance at immortality, has genuinely been a fucking disaster for western animation.

>>154175672
It was a funny video but yeah. Guy's a sperg though.

>>154175616
If rwby was better written
The world has kind of moved on, Oscar without the friendship of Rwbyj just went full ozma and barely acts human anymore.
>Summer and Spring maiden have returned to working for Ozma, moment of them 'remembering' being his daughter but both they and he are are too fucked up to really connect as a family again.
Winter as a maiden has become as authoritarian as Ironwood but its basically accepted because Vacuo is such a shithole you need a tyrant to keep control, has helped take back most of Vale.
>Salem has taken over most of the rest of the world but with Ozma mostly 'himself' again is unwilling to wage full war on her old family.
>Everyone is actually mad and scared of RWBYJ's return because they want to upset the fragile balance they have finally worked out again and want another giant war that could wipe out humanity.

What will likely happen if season 10 ever even gets made
>It's only been like a week
>Everyone is happy the gang is back and have basically been useless with rwby directly leading the charge against random fodder

>>154174157
>supposedly happens off-screen
Ah, so you really didn't watch the show.

>>154163245
self-inserters hate that character

I still randomly think about how two white guys from austin decided to write a thinly veiled racism allegory completely unprompted in their magical girl action shonen and decided it was black people that where wrong for not liking slavery.

>>154175672
>this kind of killed his career in hindsight
he was doing fine until he got outed as changing lines when working on some anime dub so it'd be more "woke".

>>154176295
Eh, he got a lot of shit on twitter from his fans with how generic he turned EE and how much he filed down the other players personalities.

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>Bumblebee doesnt get confirmed by Blake & Yang naturally realizing they have feelings for eachother
>Instead its forced upon them by a magic bridge that literally wont let them leave unless they admit to being gay
Even when trying to be progressive RT still manages to go about it in the worst way possible.

>>154176206
Then why is there so much harem art of him?

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Reminder that Yang and Blake had that cringy bridge scene less than 24 hours after Penny died and watching Ruby be depressed about it the entire time.

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>>154176819
>Weiss was concerned over the loss of her kingdom
>but instead let's focus on BB

>>154173129
The funny part is that literally none of that was written by the RWBY writers or the writers of the crossover comic. The female writer of the movie adaption landed on that all on her own, and Jaune and Jessica ended up being the only part of the movie people remember.

>>154169617
Gamer Isekai where MC's plans to quietly level grind go up in smoke because he saves a little girl who was being abused at an inn, who turns out to be Cinder. He's charged with kidnapping and arson and has to juggle level grinding with being a father and a criminal. OC/Willow pairing.

Back when I was playing a lot of Elden Ring I thought of a crossover with Shabriri possessing Summer's body at the moment of her death, but it never really got much further than that. Would've been a genocide ending, though.

>>154169617
I've toyed with the thought of 'what if rwby was older'.
And I don't mean like, the cast is 20 and is full of sex.
I feel like a huge part of the writing disparity that the community just never talks about is rwby is said to be significantly younger than the rest of the main cast. Word of god is that she's 15 but its implied she's more like 12-13 and a lot of the 'ruby is a fucking retard' complaints are really that she acts like a kid surrounded by adults.
If you made her the same age as the rest of the beacon first years suddenly she acts a lot more emotionally mature and has a lot less room to just be a bland sounding board for every other opinion the cast holds.

>>154177285
>she acts like a kid surrounded by adults
This is a really great take I've never thought about. I think it's also true that really talented or smart kids are treated like adults when they shouldn't be, and adults being extra critical of gifted children's mistakes compared to their peers. Ruby feeling out of place was a big part of her character in Vol.1 but it all just gets hand-waved away when she saves the day (and I think that makes things worse).

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>>154169617
Not quite fanfic, but some buddies and I recently restarted a RWBY roleplay that abruptly ended a long while back. Still ironing out some details, especially what our team name is gonna be...

We used to have a fourth but he was ridiculously political-brained and got banned, so we're replacing his OC. Might be replaced with another, or might replace him with Pyrrha. Haven't decided yet.

>>154177449
A lot of Ruby's early episodes character traits are kind of brushed aside even by just a little later in Volume 1. It's kind of a shame.

>>154177449
>all just gets hand-waved away when she saves the day
I think by the end of volume 3 they either forgot or just wanted to get rid of the 'she's young' plot point because it stops really being shown as an aspect of her and more a 'your whole group are just kids and you should let the adults handle salem'.

>>154177603
Rip ruby being a weapon nut that designs her own equipment, never relevant again.

Yang should be straight. She needs to pass on her good genes and all of those children need to be raised in stable, nuclear families. I don't give a fuck about your homosexual fantasies or your adoptee horror shows

>>154177819
>Good genes
>Nuclear family
She has 2 parents that just fuck off when their kids are in danger and emotionally unstable.
There is 0% chance yang would be a good parent.

>>154177819
Yang being gay in the show doesn't bother me at all. It's Yang being gay for Blake and dating her specifically that bothers me.

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Yang should have got with Sun desu

What is this thing young niggas have been yapping about? RWBY? Well, let's check ou-
>bumblebee
Nevermind.

People should call this ship Bumblebitch.

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>>154169688
Stop the cap, boyo.

>>154165186
Ehh, the original ideas Kishimoto had for Naruto were kind of bad, and it was a series that had a lot of iconic moments that were saved by his editor.

>>154178436
You now remember naruto started as a harry potter fanfic that the editors tried to make significantly less magical till shippuden.

>>154178477
>naruto started as a harry potter fanfic
wth are you smoking?

I dropped RWBY during series 4, but I read a lot of futanari erotica starring the main team.

Waste of two hot babes, I tell ya.

>>154178579
1. >>154177996
2. Nah, just one hot babe and a hideous human/feline hybrid abomination

>>154178225
see >>154157346

>>154178632

Hey, Blake is hot.

>>154178559
You probably had a better experience then if you had watched the show. Frankly, you could have skipped the show entirely and just read porn for the best experience.

>>154164474
Apparently Kishimoto had intended Hinata to end up with Naruto from the start. His wife was the one who wanted Naruto to end up with Sakura. It's why Hinata gets so much screentime later in the series, because she was basically written to be with Naruto from the very beginning of the series

>>154178830
Kishi always intended Hinata to win just like Bryke always intended Korrasami to be endgame. Hacks are great at covering their asses

>>154178830
Then what was the point of >>154164912? Wouldn't all the time devoted to that red-herring bs be put to better use developing NaruHina?

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>>154166807
Disney did it.

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>>154177113
Jaune having better chemistry with Jess than any other chick was hilarious, especially in the second movie when she asks about him and just looks heartbroken that he's not in it.
And now with RWBY being owned by Viz instead of WB anymore they can never crossover to see each other again, this is way more tragic than Pyrrha's death.

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>>154180263
>now with RWBY being owned by Viz

>>154180263
Jaune has bad luck with women.

Just finished volume 4, please tell me best girl Velvet comes back.

>>154182424
She and her team have their own spin off books.

>>154149626
>>154155369
It's crazy how Blake has numerous love interests and none of them are good, Adam is abusive, and the others are barely written
It honestly kind of went to shit after Monty died, the season right after was good but then it kind of starting going on a slow downfall, I heard about how they said they'd keep going so long as they made money

The music was the best part of the show
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAbwhVOwJQw

Any good fic recommendations? I read a pretty good Disco Elysium crossover where Jaune has a bunch of voices in his head (currently on hiatus though but they finished initiation).

https://fiction.live/stories/The-Irrepressible-Miracle-A-RWBY-x-Disco-Elysium-Quest/4J7fZjeDJ7hcKTW9N

Also recommending A Man of Honor, fic where Jaune is expelled from Beacon and infiltrates the Vale mafia due to a deal with Ozpin.

https://www.fanfiction.net/s/13779778/1/A-Man-of-Honor

>>154182605
Adam made more sense in a bodice ripper way

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>they didn't get to reunite because JNR were too distracted with a grimm attack
I wonder who sent out that grimm?...

>>154184553
meant for>>154180263

>>154164474
The hero married the girl with the biggest tits. All is right with the world.

>make show about cute girls doing cool anime fights
>design a lot of interesting cute female characters that get the bulk of screentime
>most male characters are boring background NPCs
>wtf lesbians?

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Blake/Sun/Yang throuple is the true thinking man’s answer.

>>154184672
>cute female characters that get the bulk of screentime
I wish this was truer, show would be better if Jaune weren't in it at all. In fact, just get rid of JNPR entirely, and if you want there to still be penises, give RWBY the ability to grow dicks on command.

>>154166807
Kishimoto, by his own admission is awful at writing girls. So it'd be awful or he'd be forced to git gud.
>>154167434
There's got to be a few shojo where she uses her fists.

>>154184672
the boys with screentime:
>criticized for being a harem protagonist/gary stu for being surrounded by females, probably not even fully over his dead sort-of gf.
>kept ambiguously gay for fujo shippers
>writers chickened out of making his obvious hetero ship actually happen
>shota with 10000 year old man living in his head

>>154184760
Team JORS

>>154149626
Blake is cursed to be shit. She's destroyed more ships than trains she has hopped on. Anyone falls in love in the cat becomes insane, written off, dead, or loses a limb along with their personality.
>>154155611
Early season Weiss is completely justified in being prejudiced against the Faunus. Most of the time she is absolutely right about them and Ruby being in over her head.
>>154176882
I don't think I've seen a group of protagonists that have fumbled this much in terms of endangering the world. These girls and their ilk are basically war criminals with the amount of monumental fuck ups they commit. RWBY feels like unintentional subversion of the teenage MC savior archetypes in fiction.

>>154156360
V9 is okay.
IF it wasn't filler.

>>154149761
>they couldn't even try to come up with a good reasons it's a literal plot device

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>>154167315
Trying to discern what your statement anyone should be hearing out is proving a bit difficult, but I'm more so trying to figure out how you got Hurricane from NWSY, or USUX.
Team "Yousucks" could probably get some traction at the least.
Or alternatively, ragebait idiots with UWUY.

>>154163188
Honestly Monty being alive would have kept Jaune having a more stable story because it wouldn't have lead to Miles getting in his head about writing Jaune. Like Bumblebee, the writers stupidly just gave the viewers what they wanted with Jaune so they leaned into him being less important to the plot. Which is stupid because he's a mirror to Ruby as someone with issues that has to rise as a leader. As well as Lancaster would have been an interesting ship since it's all wrapped up in Jaune being wounded Pyrrha died and we saw how much RNJR was good for the two.

I saw revisionism on here a couple years ago that Monty didn't write "that well" for the show. That's bullshit and at the end of the day Monty had his psycho sleep schedule and just fine tuned things until they were great.

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>>154150166
>Yes I want Weiss to be ruined by yurishit too
fuck off

>>154177161
>Gamer Isekai where MC's plans to quietly level grind go up
Crap. And jesus christ, why is the only thing you isekoomers can think of is 'I will quietly level grind in the middle of nowhere and do nothing interesting until its time show off'? Games don't even work like that

>>154184719
Removing Jaune won't fix anything; the problem isn't time, it's bad writing. More time won't improve the writing, it will only make it worse.

>>154186415
Exactly. The people who popularized that shit don’t actually play video games, like that moron who made SAO.

>>154175680
>Willow and the Butler fucked
>Everyone is shocked but Weiss

>>154186468
Even with "good" writing, RWBY is shit. :)

>>154185445
Yeah, figured I just ignore RWBY's team naming convention.

>>154187590
Good call. Imagine if they made a team whose first initials just made absolute gibberish.

>>154186415
Gamer systems are always shit BUT if he makes Cinder his daughterwife I'd read it

>>154186097
Yes sir

>>154186097
>declares martial law to protect Atlas from an exestential threat
>"This is bad because...he uses authoritiy or something!"
It's funny how so many fans agree with him

>>154189507
Like almost everything in rwby the broad social commentary doesn't work in universe.

Authoritarianism being bad in modern sensibilities is because we live in an era of relative peace where MOST of the world doesn't need to saber rattle and have large standing militarizes with a tight control of the population to prevent banditry and attacks on civilians.

This just doesn't hold up in a world where humanity is always one bad sports game away from being wiped out by an endless tide of giant monsters.

>>154189507
This is a case of the idiot writers letting their personal politics interfere in their work and not actually thinking about the world and characters. None of our protagonists, in any way shape or form, have ever espoused love for democracy or really made any political statements at all. Because they're basically just soldiers and they have other shit on their mind. RWBY was never about what political system is best or how great democracy is or how evil fascism is. Blake's father is even fucking "Chieftain" of Menagerie. Was that an elected position? None of the girls should care about this. And yet when Ironwood says he's going to declare martial law, Weiss acts like it's some huge betrayal and some kind of defining moment, something terrible that Ironwood is doing. Which doesn't make any fucking sense. The girls have been doing their own thing from the start, and they should know that in a situation like this it's best to have just one leader who wont get bogged down with bureaucracy and other shit. They're literally under attack and Salem is coming, you want everything to be streamlined and for the military to be in charge. It just doesn't make sense for Weiss or any of them to act like this is a bad thing.

>>154189676
To add to this Atlas is very clearly not a democracy to begin with.
They have an election, but that's for one seat on a ruling council that it's implied Ironwoods two seat as head of the hunter academia and general of the military already give him a near majority share in.
So between 4 and 6 people with one person elected and the military leader already having oversized representation.
All Ironwood really did was suspend the formality of getting people together into a room for him to strong arm anyway.

>>154186276
>I saw revisionism on here a couple years ago that Monty didn't write "that well" for the show
There is no revisionism, you retard. He didn't not write "that well" he barely fucking wrote at all. He came up with random xD fight scenes that had no rhyme or reason just stuck random shit into things without even bothering to decide what it meant and had zero plan beyond random disconnected set pieces and isolated moments. He didn't have Miles and Kerry forced on him, he went to them because he had no idea how to actually write anything and needed someone to actually write the other 90% of the show that wasn't anime fight sequence.

Jaune never made any sense narratively. It makes no fucking sense that a guy from a storied war family doesn't understand basic shit like aura and semblances. It makes no fucking sense that he'd not have enrolled in a lower level combat school and actually just transferred. He serves zero purpose in the greater story, even from the start because unlike Ruby, Yang, Weiss and Blake, he has no connection to any of the greater story beats. Monty put a second protagonist in, but the second protagonist doesn't have a fucking story or reason to exist, he is just there, because that was typical of Monty's lack of writing: he just wanted more fighters with powers to fill the school roster with so he added a whole other set of pointless characters.

>>154149626
I could at least somewhat see the appeal of Bumblebee when Blake and Yang still had distinct personalities early on in the show but the post V3 are so insanely bland and these two together are even more bland. There's literally no unique appeal or chemistry to them, it's just a generic Girl A and Girl B relationship >>154149741

>>154189903
>It makes no fucking sense that a guy from a storied war family doesn't understand basic shit like aura and semblances.
>It makes no fucking sense that he'd not have enrolled in a lower level combat school and actually just transferred.
>He serves zero purpose in the greater story, even from the start because unlike Ruby, Yang, Weiss and Blake, he has no connection to any of the greater story beats.
There a very obvious story beat here too of Jaune's family clearly going back to the Color War at least. We know one of the past Ozma's was the king that founded Vale. It's very likely Jaune's great great grandfather knew Ozpin-2/3 and could have been good friends with him.
This gives Jaune a reason to be in the story as a bridge between the cast and the mentor figure as well as add a new layer to the drama with Pyrrah as this old family friend gets Juanes girlfriend killed and gives the whole cast a reason to not trust Oscar when he shows up rather than just 'Os's are sketchy'.

So, why wasn't there a KKK/Hamas/whatever anti-faunus group that returned the favor to the White Fang?

>>154190227
'cause faunus are neither blacks nor jews, they're irish.

>>154190227
believe it or not, happened offscreen

This is also why they really, really, need to drop anything about there being a "refugee crisis" in Vacuo if Volume 10 comes out. Not just because the story is bloated already but because it would be handled very stupidly and not work in-universe. At most, have some Vacuo official say something that the amount of people from other kingdoms are straining their resources. That's fine, that's something that should be brought up, but don't make it some big political issue or focus the plot on it.

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>>154188898
Who wouldn't?

>>154189903
>but the second protagonist doesn't have a fucking story or reason to exist
Watch them pull this twist where it turns out he's the missing prince of Vale and therefore the only one qualified to lead all of Remnant or that because of a time paradox, he was brought to life -from- the stories about the rusted knight that -he- himself lived and unknowingly brought to life himself.

>>154149626
are they lesbians?

>>154193287
Sadly

>>154193287
Both of them have both hit on and dated guys before in the show.
But like every other time this happens /pol/ and tumblr just ignore the existence of bi people and if two girls sso much as look at each other they are now forever lesbians.

>>154191537
Not I.

>>154193350
The problem with these lesbian pairings is that in most cases they aren't planned so the girls are attracted to men like every normal girl until suddenly they start licking pussy. It's more lack of planning than biphobia

>>154193995
See you did it right there.
It 100% has nothing to do with the show writing or planning and everything to do with how you retards only think about character as their last pairing.

>>154175616
I still cannot believe Salem didnt already fuck up Vacuo in the time they were gone especially since theres a Grimm Armada on that continent.

>>154172101
Cyborg wasnt into Nora,hes just so charismatic that him talking to her normally looks liked BLACKED

>>154184692
It’s 100% in Sun’s character to simply win over Ya g to get with Blake. I mean he already won over Blake’s parents. I could even see Yang being into it.

>>154168773
Tree-sama is an eldritch asshole that saw her son nuking humanity as part of le balance. She would say some esoteric malarky and cause Ruby to groan.

what I find the most jarring is the implication that Mistral and Vale could just fall in an instant like that. I mean I guess if Salem went on a rampage but surely they would've held the line better, also why would Salem even do that? Anyhow it then begs the question of how Salem can't curbstomp a single oasis town already ridden with Grimm in a single instant but has to use some royalists to meddle with their internal politics to take it over.

>>154189648
>we live in an era of relative peace where MOST of the world doesn't need to saber rattle and have large standing militarizes with a tight control of the population to prevent banditry and attacks on civilians
Even today, democratically elected officials have suspended elections or declared martial law in wartime
>>154189676
>>154189814
Well what do you expect from writers that named the countries "kingdoms" that don't have any monarchs or royal family

>>154194087
Volume 7 and 8 completely ruined the power dynamics in the show. In Volume 5, we learn Salem with Lionheart's help has been slowly whittling down all the Huntsmen and Huntresses in the Kingdom, and Mistral also doesn't have the big military Atlas does. Beacon also only fell due to a combination of not having a Maiden, having a Maiden against them, Grimm, the White Fang, and Atlas's military power being turned against them. And even then it was only Beacon that fell and it became a stalemate, the entire Kingdom didn't get destroyed or taken over.

But then in Atlas? The strongest Kingdom with an actual military that also hasn't had its Huntsmen and Huntresses getting whittled down for years? Salem is just able to brute force it down. You can say that again the Maiden and Silver Eyes weren't in play for Atlas's defense but it still ruins everything and makes Salem way too powerful. It's like Atlas's Huntsmen and Huntresses besides the Ace-Ops and FNKI don't exist. It's like their defenses don't exist. The writing is just so inconsistent and stupid, I feel like they thought they screwed up by the end of Volume 5 and made Salem's position too weak and thus over-corrected for it.