Who's the better manipulator?
>>154152365Cartman would have the CSM cast on suicide watch within the hour. Mamika would struggle to beat manipulate Randy Marsh
>>154152424What's Cartman gonna do to Denji that Makima didn't?
>>154152365Power is the one based on Cartman
>>154154224Make him eat himself via poochita cuz he'll convince him it'll give him a bigger dick and girls.
>>154154224give him AIDS
>>154152365He would be immune to Makima's grooming (shown to be so selfish and greedy that he doesn't care about sex stuff) + he has manipulated entities like Cthulu, so Cartman easily wins this matchup if it's on who can manipulate the other. If both of them have to trick someone like Denji or Kyle, then Makima wins
>>154156843...and dante
>>154152365Cartman used to be based, now he's cringe just like the rest of South Park
Guess his favorite character.
I never understood why you're supposed to hate Cartman. He's just a brat.
>>154154224Dress up as a girl and have sex with him
>>154156843>Godly featsman and 4 "lorescaling" frauds
>>154156894South Park manages to make Cartman cute in some scenes. How the fuck do they do that
>>154156846*featuring dante
>>154156894He's a racist, sexist, homophobic, transphobic, antisemitic, ablelist, narcissistic psychopath who regularly abuses, steals, and kills, and you think he's just a brat?
>>154157381In a world as absurd as South Park's, repeatedly presenting Cartman like he's the worst person to ever exist is just heavy-handed moralising.Same with the Trump shit, but that's just because the only time they managed to make it funny was when they made it seem like he was Saddam Hussein in disguise, for that first episode. After that they both ran it into the ground, and stopped doing the super exaggerated voice, which was at least half the reason it was even funny to begin with.
Why do some people think Randy is as bad as Cartman? just because he's an adult?
>>154157381Yes Cartman is pretty woke while also being a boogeyman of what a cuck (trey) thinks his political opponents believe
kratosbros...
>>154156894I never understood why people like him.Maybe in a "love to hate" way. But even that's pushing it.>>154157359Oh, right. They're fags.
>>154157006This is ironically the most believeble outcome because of how psychotic and stubborn cartman is
>>154156862
>>154152365cartman and it genuinely isn't even close he made a nigga eat his own parents
>>154156862Eric Theodore Cartman.
>>154156862None other than SONIC!
>>154152365What if Makima visited the aqua teens and tried to recruit meatwad as the meat devil?
>>154157674she would have to answer to MASTER shake
Is your hero strong enough to go 0-3?
>>15415767411 minutes of Meatwad wildly misunderstanding her orders, while Shake and Carl are simping over her more desperately than anyone's ever done before, to the point that they disgust her too much to even bother manipulating them.
>>154156862there's just something really sad about seeing an old m an being so attached to a fetish
>>154158153honestlyyeahthis nigga looks older than my dad, and could have had a loving family and grandchildren
>>154157830I believe in Cucky Bardock!
>>154152365Makima would rape Cartman, and not in the Powerscaling sense...
>>154156894He is fat
My hero just posted this on his social media...
>>154152365People always focus on Makima manipulating Denji when she was playing with 3 world governments at the same time
>>154158329>blacked PMVThe most Indian thing I've read all day
Could the HEROES team take this?
>>154156862This is fucking gross, dude
>>154156862Miles Morales probably
>>154152365is Makima the better manipulator simply by virtue of being the Control Devil, and thus it's only natural for her to be able to manipulate nearly anyone? or is Cartman the better manipulator solely because he isn't the Control Devil and thus has to put in more effort so his victories have more weight?
>>154156862Naruto, Sonic.
Please stop fetishizing skin colors
>>154158509For the LAST TIME, when I punched you and made you purple I wasn't trying to fetishize you.
>>154158500Paarthurnax you're drunk go home
Any fights for this feel?
>>154158574Shut the fuck up
>>154158579
>>154158579TROON
>>154158579This nigger likes Adventure Time
>>154158579Most wanted matchup?
>>154158329Source for the clip?
>>154158574https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csyMnqIaWEU
>>154156862Remember guys:>This man had a wife and a SONThis thing got to carry on his gens while everyone else was busy.
>>154154224Trick him into eating somebody he lov-oh wait
>>154156846One of the devs confirmed Mundus created a universe, keep seething.
>>154158809KnY bros.... our heroes are universal tier
So does this mean that characters that fight Allen are probably not fighting at ftl speeds?
>>154158768https://x.com/Vofell/status/2004354441428836529?s=20
>Leave Zangief to me!
the previews couldn't come out fast enoughit's getting real dry here
>>154156843>All of Pic them Still Can't beat the OG Papa of Gaming
>>154158465Only Superman matters
>>154158809A fake and pocket universe. Pic related can destroy those casually.
>>154158574People demanding that other people accommodate or take part in their delusions are despicable enough, but people who try to force that shit on literal animals are a special breed of retard, and NEED to be culled from the gene pool.Even if you ignore the politics of it, having someone around who is stupid enough to believe that you can forcing animals to work or think like humans is dangerous for the safety of everyone they ever interact with.
>>154158465Reimu is pretty much alone in this, give her actual teammates
>>154158935Fact!
*Roars at you*Scared?
>>154159601>*Shits my pants so hard I Splash you with my liquid feces*
>>154159558
>>154159685Finally! A real battle!
HYAH
Setting larp aside, do any of you think there is a good system for analyzing the power scale of nondeterministic fictional worlds?
>>154159685FUAAARK. Left takes it. It only needs one character.
>>154159685Heroes would win but Superman would make it hard
>>154159601the HALLS shivered...
>>154159685The KING, the QVEEN, and their jesters.
>>154159685Sonic is not a fraud like everyone else on that image
We need more Ussop style sneaky upset wins in Death Battle. Give me a lucky or skillful character who is able to bluff or smart his way into a win against a guy who outclasses him. Or serves as a natural counter like Ussop tends to find out
>>154159791>Eggman PLEASE!! Hook me up on that sweet chaos emerald juice!! I swear I won't overdose again!
>>154159685Superman solos, his name transcends fictional foundations which this other character owe their existence towards.
>>154159820>which this other characterBrown.Superman in this form, said in this arc, he has the power of only 1 baby universe, btw. Kratos in base form has 990,000,000 full universes of power.
Well?
>>154159837>Superman needs Doomsday's power to get to 1 baby universe level>Cucky Simon at his strongest instadies to 1 Big Bang (confirmed to only have the power of 1 universe)>Kratos is 990,000,000 universes lowballedKING!
DO NOT RAPE KINGTOOOS
And so, they were both wall level.
>>154159855excuse you?
>>154156894He was. Then the Scott Tenorman episode happened.
>>154159888Holy fuck, DCKO OMEGA ALPHA DOOMSDAY KING SUPERMAN was actually NERFED???
>>154152365is chainsaw man just mommydom sloppa
>>154157830>0-3
>>154159855>[LIBEL] Simon at his strongest [LIE]Based on this obsession people have about downplaying Simon makes me inclined to believe he did something that affected them emotionally and psychologically. Like you're even mentioning him unprompted.
>>154159966>supossed moon level vs a kid that not even with his ultimate power up can get to city levelHOLY FUARK
>>154159888>Still smaller than Amitabha Buddha Don't worry KINGtos! We've got this!
Why is Jane Touhou acting like Doctor Fate doesn't stomp her? Is she stupid?
I want Sylar vs AfO now
>instantly HBOCsSuperkeks?
>>154160025>outversal crap tier>still a cheap whorewhy is Reimu like this bros?
>>154159966Gon is considered wall level on vsbw. This is literally. LITERALLY. punching down.
>>154160085Having the powers of a God doesn't put food on the table
>>154159888>DC's size: 1.62 × 1063>Height of a single heaven in Touhou: 8.18 × 10102Holy shit... Reimu can unironically go I HATE WEAKLING on DC!?
>>154160072>Baseless assumption.I'm not HBOCing, I actually like Doctor Fate, even more than Doctor Strange (but I do believe Strange beats Reimu). I do bel Superman beats her tho, but that's besides the point.>>154160085There is something I must do now.
>>154160085She can't resist the call of bbc
>>154160163You missed the opportunity to say "Call of Booty".
>character with more wank than DC shows up >Instant seethe and BBC fantasies being posted against said characterI'm noooticing...
>>154160183I doubt she beats DC even if she has wank.
>>154159384Post anymore in Kengan tanking a tornado casually
>>154160183nobody has mentioned Dr Who here
>>154160126>source: used and prolapsed Yuuka´s craphole
>>154160183That's the "Simon special" Capeshitters are extremely insecure and sensitive, so much so that you can lose against them and they will still seethe because you could actually fight back (Sonic vs Flash and Reimu vs Strange are prime examples of this)
>>154160287The source is one of the hifuu stories
>>154160253>muh basedboy bong faggot doctor is le outversal because he fought a stupid dude in a cheap costume some day with worst effects than Ultraman>AAAIIIEEEE thats a 3 floor building? AHHHH SAVE ME BORING CHRISTMAS SPECIAL
>>154152365>Power is based on Cartman>Makima manipulated PowerCoughing baby vs Hydrogen Bomb.
>>154160235Can Zangief do that or is this because of his tornado-like move?
>>154160315>hifuu stories = source: it was revealed to me in a dream
>>154152365Makima if she's allowed to use her powers.If she's not, it's Cartman and it's not even close.
>>154159459A reminder that the Laurie he ditched is also in that pocket universe. She isn't the real deal, just a copy time trapper created, which is why Prime doesn't give a fuck about her anymore.
Yuji solos Chainsawman verse btw
so true...
>>154160300I don't partake in any of those MUs debates but I don't understand how can someone seethe if you're the winner and the opponent can barely fight back?
>>154152365Yujiro is going to murder any verse you put him in because he always gets stronger and can instantly learn any and every fighting style
>>154160369Surprisingly accurate!
>>154160408>>154160424Possibly samefag.>>154160436I'm lesbophobic and this was unbearable to acknowledge it exists.
>>154160430My theory is that since DC and Marvel are so awful nowadays the only thing a big 2 comic fan can latch onto is Powerscaling, as these verses are busted as shit and will solo 90% of all other verses with ease.But what happens if you take that away from them? They would end up with nothing considering they don't have good stories, or characters, and the community is atomized to the point not even /co/ actually talks about any of them...It's basically the same problem Dragon Ball has.
>>154160463>I'm lesbophobicI'm sorry anon, we LOVE Yuri here!
>Pokeshitters and MHAfags fighting over who has the most pedophiles in their fandom
Ultraman is wall level
>>154160432What if he fights someone with better learning feats? This guy copied a time stop to counter it then copied a gag character's plot armor.
>>154160481While I agree with your claim pertaining to the matter of present Marvel and DC's quality, I only do so to an extent. Good comics are still being made, produced and published. I do agree to the full extent when it comes to Dragon Ball.>>154160514>weIs "we" in the room with us?>LOVE(you) love lesbian shit because you're a fagger. Is this is how touhou fans are then I don't like it.>>154160520Kay bee see.
>>154160300>[FIGHTS SONIC AND REIMU AND THEIR COMPOSITE COSMOLOGIES GET RAPED AND GAPED IN]>fighting back?
>>154160550He'd copy it
KINGnic and QUEENmu? Softcore Pornography and Fetish Fantasy BEASTS.
>>154160520lmao
STOP POSTING THAT WEAKLING SISSYVERSE THAT APPEALS TO PORNOGRAPHY NOW!
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/tAFeeXUQ5YoFLAILTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOS!staffsura...
>>154160656All my other verses are too strong though...
>>154159837>>154159855>>154160025>>154160085>>154160126>>154160300>Superman outscales his own setting in this form and every even and ever dc title and else worlds and even non superhero verse Warner bros related.>also can absorb Reimus magic like a spongeCope
>Bring me Satoru Gojo
>>154160736Your English is atrocious and low iq, typical of a phoneposting Superman fag.Superman gets onepunched by middle-league villains of his own setting. Has to date has never won a fight against Shazam without assistance. And was confirmed in Death Metal to have died to Batman in the majority of timelines.
>>154160607Yujiro can't copy a character with absolute omni adaptation and negation.
>SuperKEK getting uppity
>>154160315>"... That's some ridiculous inflation."Touhou in fraudwatch
>>154160767>Confirmed to be holding back in all those instancesCope
>>154160736as expected from MY HERO>>154160767>using a weaker version to slander MY HERO
>>154160767
post feats from your hero... NOW
>>154159888Why do we measure universes, wouldn't most fictions have universes that are infinite and infinitely expanding?
>>154160315>This character is this tall right?>Isn't that bigger than the observable universe? That sounds like some absurd inflation if it's true.This just makes it sound like the height was exaggerated and he's not actually that tall.
>>154160850
>SuperKEK when Death Battle makes him fight against someone who isn't fucking Goku so they can't outright lie and downscale the fuck out of him because of their pathetic little fucking hate boners they've always had for Goku because they know he fucking stomps their precious wall level boring boy-scout that fucking everyone in the world hates so much the latest movie fucking unironically killed DC
>>154160767>All comic book characters having low anti feats showings>Clark is the only one who can break this rule when the stakes are high and can transcend feats like this.
>>154160866I don't even know what this meansHe accelerated time?He created a Sun?He Solar Eclipsed?
>>154160886He turned back time.
>>154157510I know you're probably trolling, but Cartman manipulated a guy into eating his own dad. That later turned out to be Cartman's own dad, of which Cartman showed no sympathy for killing his dad but rather for that his dad was a Denver Bronco. He's a little more than just a brat. I'll grant you that he's probably not the worst person in the show, though.
>Sonic the Hedgehog is still 2-1 vs Dragon Ball with no answer in sightDragonbros... How did we become Sonic's SISSIES!?!? We need to HIDE behind our BULL immediately!!
>>154158465>naruto
>>154160820>>154160863Not at all considering Heavens are just infinite in size
>>154160880>Superman when he's actually against an infinite dimensional infinite multiversal beast with 7 outerversal layers and multiple hax and not some 2-C faggot weakling whose cosmology caps at 12 universes
could Goku beat Superman if he drank some of this stuff?
>>154160899Metal vs Cell will remain inconclusive until we get definitive proof that Super Metal is truly equal to Super Sonic.
>>154160886A bad guy possessed him and used his body to kill all his friends, he woke up, exorcised himself then turned back time to unkill his friends.
>>154160913>MORE UNIVERSESSimon beat Kyle btw
>>154160880>muh hate bonershut up, DB wanks Dragon Ball verse to infinite and beyond. Only retards and Gokek fanboys can even think of giving DBZ MFTL speeds
>>154154224be based
>>154160934And both Kyle and Simon were infinite multiversal and their fight was a matter of dimensionality and infinite cardinals. Simon also had reality warping, AP evolution to the degree of dimensionality, probability manipulation, omnipresent attacks, informational regen, while Goku is a flying statbrick. A statbrick whose cosmology caps at 12 finite universes.
>>154160934Death Battle can be wrong since Green Lanterns scale outerversal by facing Darkseid and Monitors
>>154160963Flash and Superman > Kyle and Simon
>>154160963>A statbrick whose cosmology caps at 12 finite universes.Vs Superman who is.....a statbrick...>B-BUT SUPERKEK HAS A GAZILLON UNIVERSESSo? He doesn't destroy them. He just exists in a series where that exists. It means nothing.
It's time to get over Goku vs Superman.And channel that energy into Bejita vs Thor.
>Gokek needs to HBOC Spawn every time he and his overwanked verse get rightfully fraud checkedPathetic.
Is this the weakest incarnation of Superman?https://youtu.be/c64T81Z66PY?si=qDQ6m7k7xnqikgLA
>>154160979>My goat is murdering outerversal beings like it's nothing
>>154160927https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnSiSk6_vBM
>>154161004Real Superman is above this too. Clark is too nice to reach this level consciouslym
>>154160996A statbrick who at his peak can fight threats to his infinite multiversal cosmology.You know, because DB takes characters at their strongest? Not their weakest antifeats? Hence why it's Goku the arbitrary number of universes off multipliers universal and not Goku the Sub-Elephant Sub-Ice Sub-Laser level?
>>154161002>Accusing GODku of HBOC Spawn when SuperKEK hides behind Spawn, Homelander, Simon, Sonic, Ash, Yugi, Ben 10 and every other character to ever exist Not subtle
>>154160927NTA, but part of the problem with MetCell is that they used three different versions of Neo Metal (Heroes, IDW, and Sonic Speed Simulator) as one identical thing.Sonic Speed Simulator's Neo Metal came about from being powered up by a number of Chaos Emeralds and also he's huge. He also doesn't seem to do any of the technique copying.It also conflates both Base Metal's Copy-Cat ability and Neo Metal's Bio Data Copying.
>>154159685Funny how in the end it's still Reimu vs Superman, with KINGtos only being there to clear Sonic and Ichigo so Reimu stands a better chance without wasting energy on the fodder
Superman is 3-0 against Goku on DB, and Goku's cosmology canonically caps at 12 universes. Why would he need to hide?
Post Superman lobotomizing Gayku
>PLEASE CARE ABOUT REIMU>S-SHE CAN SCALE TO KINGTOS RIGHTNo. We're arguing with listtroon again.
>Superman has more universes!!!>Well what does that mean exactly for powerscaling?>S-SHUT UP CHUD! NEVER QUESTION DEATH BATTLE AGAIN! SUPERMAN IS THE STRONGEST IN FICTION.
>>154160979Disagreed. Simon has R>F transcendence that can be equalized to The Source and/or The Overvoid (this is composite Simon to be clear)>>154160995Disagreed. Kyle is basically The Phoenix of DC and with the breaking of the Source Wall and Life Equation he should be more powerful than Godhead True Form Darkseid and the Anti-Life Equation (Outerversal). Composite Simon beats Kyle.
>>154160997I don't like Thorgeta because I don't really think Vegeta's characterization is accurate for the era they were pulling from.Also I know it is moot, since Mjolnir doesn't do the Worthy thing anymore, but I feel like there would be an argument for Vegeta being Worthy by the time of the Granolah and Superhero Sagas.
>>154160996this slander, again? >actions comics 388basically, a stupid genius created a machine to duplicate the Earth, however, by some reason, tthe fucker created a dimension merger. Basically, the Earth was replaced by an alternative dimension Earth. However, MY HERO, being the powerhouse he is, wasnt affected and instead was the only character from the original universe that remained. The brussels arent damaging him, its only that he is getting tired of the shit of this aalternate dimension.
>>154161067>Superman at his peak would comfortably scale to threats to his entire cosmology>Goku on the other hand has never faced such threats, only universal threats at best, and even if he did, his cosmology is 12 universes to Superman's infinite cosmology>since Goku has no hax or way to close that gap since he's never leapfrogged several orders of infinity like Simon, it's pretty straightforward how this matchup between two mostly flying bricks would go
>>154161075NTA but I don't like it because even with base Thor and massive downplaying with what could arguably be Vegeta headcanon wanking...it was still an obvious stomp in favor of Thor.
>>154161084>SuperKEK TANKED.....VERY MINOR REALITY WARPINGImagine those windows that could shake when he tanks brussels sprouts...
>>154161059right away
>>154161084You...weren't supposed to post that...
Sekibanki solos my verse...
>>154161043>canonically caps at 12 universes18 was the original number
>>154161024NTA. But they sure did for Megamind.
>>154161111Literally who?
>
>SuperKEK trying to punch down on Goku when a stronger version of him is about to get his asshole gaped so wide open it could fit all Marvel and DB cosmology in it
>>154161098>VERY MINOR REALITY WARPINGbetter than be damaged by lava
Woah, 18 universes? I could easily destroy 12 larger-sized universes but 18 is WAY too much for me.
>>154160927Nobody cares. Sonic RAPES and GAPES Goku and his entire verse.
>>154160909The same text is telling you that the numbers are ridiculous, hinting at that it is BS.
>>154161134>trying to punch down on GokuSo you're saying Superman is in fact, much stronger than Goku and thus he is smurfing on a much weaker character?>could fit all of DB cosmology in itThat's not very impressive given DB's cosmology is 12 universes.
>>154161135>Look at the panels>Goku is not hurt by the lava>He's not even trying to dodge it DISINGENUOUSperman....
>>154161088I hate this cosmology argument, each of the 12 universes are also infinite.Infinity times infinity is still just infinity, so twelve or a million universes would take the same amount of energy to destroy.A multiverse isn't mathematically larger than a universe in any legible way.
>>154161134>Hiding behind Marvel like a cowarddishonorable.
>>154161100Kek, based, canon.
>>154161196>Hiding behindThe difference is Goku AND Sentry gape DC. SuperKEK is the one who hides behind dozens of other characters.
>>154161171>muh kid Goku scales to country because he fought Daimaku>muh Goku scales to solar without feats because he fought Cell>muh Goku scales to Beerus because a stupid punch>muh Goku doesnt scale to Moro because, because he doenst ok?
>>154161126Sekibanki
>>154161232Yeah. Who?
>>154161031Superman never hides, he stands in front of everything while other behind him are safe. And he's above spawn and Goku outerversal wise.
>>154161094Yes, the multipliers that Death Battle arrived at for Vegeta are entirely invented. At best, you can say he has parity with Goku, who we barely have multipliers for.I think they shot their load early by invoking Ultra Ego, since we still haven't seen much of it, and the whole arc it is introduced in sets up the idea that the 'pure' versions of the Ultra techniques just aren't realistic for the people that Goku and Vegeta are.Goku fights with too much passion for Ultra Instinct to be a perfect fit.Vegeta (now) fights with too much compassion and morality for Ultra Ego to be a perfect fit.
>>154161252>And he's above spawnGetting cocky in front of your 4-0 GOD
>GokuAbsolutely.>above spawnLet's not get crazy here.
>>154161243Sekibanki!
>>154161100This is what Krasura did to ALL OF THESE HALLS.>>154161252NTA but I believe Superman and Spawn should tie unless comp Supes but that would be unfair. Yes, I believe Spawn beats Goku, and also Sonic.>>154161259Aside from what is a topic on character writing rather than power scaling. Low multiversal Vegeta vs sixth dimensional at base Thor was really unfair. I did enjoy Thor's characterization tho.
>>154161231Literally at the end of the fight a volcando explodes at goku's face and he is unfazed you lying faggot
no, go on SuperKEK fight your master. He could really go 5-0. Fucking pussy faggot. You think you can beat Goku and now you think you can beat anyone. All because of a fucking fan fiction btw.Spawn literally rapes SuperKEK
>>154161300NTA but we already saw Goku unfazed by lava before the Moro arc, if I remember correctly.
All you had to do was accept that Goku loses to Superman
icky vic the stupid spic tried to suck a cosplayer's dick got rejected his axe wound infected 41% is his final trick
>>154161325>Haha we can't have a fun shitpost fight >I have to literally harass you for a year and turn everything into something else.
>>154161297I don't really like dimensional tiering.Hell, I don't even really like anything above universal.I feel like there has to be a better way of going about things that doesn't invent an arbitrary rule system for dealing with settings that go beyond infinity.
>>154160937>Only retards and Gokek fanboys
>>154161325>PLEASE ACCEPT THIS FAN FICTION AS CANON!!!!No.
>>154161300>vegeta>saiyan that constantly scales to Gokek>even transformed having trouble to resist lava heat from that crappy robot>same robot that gave us another jewel
There are literally multiple characters in my verse that could just...eat the entire Dragon Ball cosmology.
Any supergods (the comic) matchup?
>>154161351That's a problem intrinsic to both fiction and power scaling, not mine to solve, maybe not even a problem but a brute fact that must be accepted. You can scale base Thor to infinite multiverse without dimensional scaling so it's still a stomp.
DBZ's cosmology is so small, it's kinda cute
>>154161331Fucking fag.
I dont watch Japanese cartoons. Can someone tell me why the dragon ball verse is so weak? I thought DB was THE fighting anime but goku cant even survive the center of the earth? only 12 universes? did they just lack imagination to make anything more powerful. Why does that verse have such a following
>>154161354
Spawn beats SuperKEK btw. Let's not ignore that he tried to bite the hand of his master.
>Saint Seiya was performing universal feats back when Goku was stuck at Solar System level>actual infinite multiverse cosmologyWhy did we let DBZ get big over Saint Seiya? Now that's a respectable shonen with respectable power levels unfortunately popular with spics
>>154161211>>154161134>Goku is so incredibly weak he has to hide behind someone as weak as the SentryYou can bring as many friends as you want gokufag, it won't make a single difference. Killing a bunch of weaklings is nothing new for Prime.
>>154161413superman can't lose>>154161398asians in general aren't very creative. Dragon ball is considered strong for an anime. Just outclassed by western verses
>>154161074>tdlr Simon and Kyke is this because death battle says soCope, Superman is the source of everything including the over void/meta textual layers and the source wall and his presences is overlapping all fiction as the modern pinnacle of goodness and heroism. Simon can hope to reach that since Supes is made to be better than what evolution and will power is defined compared to him who has made his entire stories being basically the proto Kamina/Spiral energy of his world.
>>154161433>superman can't lose
>>154161436> Simon can't hopeFixed
>>154161426Because you fags slept on other series while gassing up Goku who essentially caps at multi-galaxy level. There are bigger fishes you haven't seen yet.
>>154161436why did he let himself get raped by a russian?
>>154161466
>Saitama>Spawn>SimonI don't get what these BEASTS from an infinite multiversal cosmology have to do with WEAKu, whose cosmology caps out at 12 universes. His name doesn't even start with an S for crying out loud.
>>154161470>superman gets raped>goku rapes peopleis that what you're trying to say here?
>>154161398I don't know. Dragon Ball can equal Sonic when both are composite, otherwise mainline Sonic stomps mainline Goku.>>154161400To be honest, I have grown fond of the Ultraman fan of fans that post in /dbg/ because they have always acted rational (that I've seen so far).>>154161426Literal fatherCHADS that are exemplar pillars of parenthood are Saint Seiya fans. It's a good fiction.>>154161436I'd believe you if you had proof, but as far as I know Superman is only one half of The Overvoid (and arguably the weakest one), so composite Simon wins.
ReminderALL TROONS MUST HANG BY THE NECK UNTIL DEAD.Thank you for your attention to this matter.
Sakuya ep with pads joke (dubious if she actually does this)
>>154161495Superman wouldn't like you saying such things
>>154161426truth to be told. Seiya, at least in the original manga, is a statement merchant. The only feats he has are centered around speed. Its hard to defend this verse without getting laughed about when a galaxian level attack destroys some pillars You need to take Episode G, Next Dimension and Lost Canvas to gather some deranged feats, and even with that, he is dependant on chainscaling
>>154161495SuperKEKS....Sonicfags...Troonhou....Marvelfags...DCfags...
>>154161512Kill yourself troon.
>>154161470That's a power move, you wouldn't get it
>>154161489listtroon is an annoying faggot, Ultraman actually has feats and he only really cares about TEACHING DBZ instead of anklebiting anything for attention so he's a lot more tolerable than Samenic or the Touhoujeet.
>>154161459Spawn can't beat Superman if he's powered by holy magic and a blue star
>>154161525Superman wouldn't like you saying such things
>>154161512>>154161535Kill yourself troon.
>>154161464Look at all of these people SuperKEK has to hide behind
>>154161512Prime would
>>154161542Superman wouldn't like you saying such things
>>154161373Its weird that faggots like you complain about goku not having feats and then go to ignore shit he does by himself kys faggothttps://jloo.wowpic2.store/i4/bEqPbYfoNT0GmlXlMj6foApI5oEFcvai3R0VvqA/42.webphttps://jloo.wowpic2.store/i4/bEqPbYfoNT0GmlXlMj6foApI5oEFcvai3R0VvqA/43.webphttps://comix.to/title/8wj2m-dragon-ball-super/9860835-chapter-66
>>15416155141% is your final trick troon. Kill yourself.
>>154161546There is no HBOC. Dragonball has been proven to be a fraudulent verse multiple times.
>>154161489>I'd believe you if you had proof, but as far as I know Superman is only one half of The Overvoid (and arguably the weakest one), so composite Simon wins.Superman destroyed and escaped the ocervoid so he's above his own link to the dc meta setting and thus superior to Simon
Listtroon is bullied here, please stop.
>>154161562Superman wouldn't like you saying such things
>>154161436
>>154161486>some faggot wrote a stupid "muh controversial" comic using a Superman version, from the many there are, including Barack obama Superman>even with the restart at the end of Batkek, past stories arent affected, only the main and composite superman, somehowmeanwhile>Toriyama is the only author and supervised Toyotaro>made Goku a giant retard and fag
>>154161426Can we see those universal level "feats"?
Gokubros status?
>>154161466He didnt
>Simon got a pity win against Kyle so now he thinks he beats fucking SupermanBe lucky they fed you that pity win and didn't make him fight Hal.
reminder chud. This is the stronger HERO in fiction
>>154161560> AAAIIIEEEE my multiversal Gokek is finishing a galaxy tier enemy? HOLY FUARK
>>154161580Kill yourself groomer faggot.
>>154161572>Superman destroyed the overvoidSuperman is the end and the beginning.
>>154161528Agreed.>>154161572You still have no proof to support what you're saying.>>154161618Baseless claims.
>>154161619KRATONKS AT THE RIGHT OF SUPERMAN??
>>154161619>Superman is meant to be everyone hero and the champion of the oppressed and neglected.I wonder why he's so unpopular.
>>154161599he got raped on purpose?>>154161589>t-that doesn't count because I dont like it.Cope your hero got depowered and took it up the ass. This was an offical published DC story. Superman's corporate Gods put their big seal of approval on their main character getting ass raped
>>154161621DBfags will pretend this is an outlier when Goku never even went above planetary by the end of Z
>>154161621Keep moving the goalpost faggot nothing change the fact that you were wrong
>>154161426>>actual infinite multiverse cosmologyWhy does that matter?
>>154161624Superman wouldn't say such things.>>154161658No wonder he is the popular character in the world.
>yeah well Superman is gaySo you're telling me he also sodomized Goku after winning thrice in a row? Poor Goku, everyone seems to just RAPE and GAPE him both metaphorically and literally...
>>154161643>Simontard crying about no proofCope
>>154161677Literally kill yourself literal faggot.
>>154161681>Still give NO proof.Concession accepted.
>>154161678superman catches. Koslov pitches.
>>154161373Yup, we're taking an anti-feat from SSJ1 Vegeta from the U6 arc and chainscaling the anti-feat to current Goku. Even though 4 years have passed, they're way stronger now.
>>154161697Mexichango imbecil
>>154161689Superman wouldn't like you saying such things.
Cucky Goku.Bucky Superman.Bully Koslov.
>>154161665Wasnt super buu going to destroy the universe while fighting Vegito?
>>154161663alternated version you dumb fuck, even Gokek has like 3 of those >>154161658thats the perk of following Superman, i can choose that MY HERO is only Silver Age superman until the day that DC decides to fuck his story, as almost was done in Death Metal. until then, Moore gave him a somewhat good ending
>>154161697>No UGreat argument.
BOVNDLESS KINGS WHO ALL NO-DIFF A CERTAIN ANKLE-BITER
>>154161716Wow...can we see a demonstration of how powerful they are now? Can we see him busting thousands of universes?
>>154161745fvark they all beat Goku? What a sissy weakling...
>>154161697
>>154161740>i can close my eyes an pretend it isnt true!bro...
>>154161716this stupid midget damaged a being that should scale to Gas, btw
12 universes.AI slop spam.Popular in South-East Asia and Latin America.Only wins against street tier children in a popularity contest and on scatological vore-themed DB spinoffs.
>>154161748>Can we see him busting thousands of universes?Who said anything about them busting thousands of universes? You're debating with hosts.
Explain how Simon beats Superman.
>>154161806I was informed Bejita was actually a million times universal on DB, and thus I was curious to see if he ever demonstrated this level of power
>>154161740Koslov is from a silver age story retard
>>154161720??? Who the FUCK do you think I am?I am CHADGENTINE.I am ARYANTINIAN.Mogólico de mierda, metete tu pais lleno de marrones en el orto.>>154161744Notice how you didn't back up your claims with ANY possible piece of evidence in your favor. You are projecting.>>154161770That's The Overvoid, whom composite Superman is only one half of (arguably the weakest half). It's the character that Simon equalizes to (the composite version as we know already).>>154161813Composite Simon has R>F transcendence that equals him to The Source and/or The Overvoid. Without composite I think they tie at best.
>>154161830THAT comic isnt
>>154161619dc made superman gay?
>>154161842>tdlr Stuff I made the fuck up because I want to scale Simon the cucker above SupermanCope, Superman is extraversal and meta pre existence itself
>>154161790STOP DESCRIBING MY HERO
>>154161860Its a direct continuation. Silver age superman got his butt blased by a normie human.Hey man look its okay weaknesses and vulnerabilities make the character more interesting
>>154161842Maricon tu país esta infestado de bolivianos, y las cosas con milei no van bien eres una vergüenza
>>154161907how does supes scale to jesus in ability to affect reality?
>>154161962people are losing faith in god everyday. But Superman is getting more and more popular.
>>154161918in the same logic that the movies of DBZ anime cant be canon to the continuity of the manga, THAT comic cant be considered canon inside the continuity of Silver Age Superman, because that dictator was dispached almost instantly by Batman and Superman, unlike what happens in THAT comic. >weaknesses and vulnerabilities make the character more interestingsure, but that was an overkill, Superman can empathize with powerless civilians without this crap
>>154161977>But Superman is getting more and more popular.>When his movie flopped>When the DCU is already confirmed dead>When critics hated his newest movie all over the world>When his new movie was so fucking dogshit that it KILLED WARNER BROTHERSChrist is king. Don't you dare compare him to some faggot superhero that was made as an allegory for being jewish
>>154161907>Libel.>Pic doesn't put him at The Overvoid level.>Still WITHOUT PROOF.I accept your concession.>>154161955>mariconMarronazo proyectado.>Bolivianos.Solo Jujuy, ni se de donde sos pero seguro sos mas marrón que un boliguayo XD.>>154161955>MileiMe chupa un huevo el presi, las cosas están yendo mejor que antes y el problema principal no es la presidencia sinó la legislatura y los goviernos provinciales. Cerra el orto si no sabes de que hablas.>>154162013No. You two, cut that out. Both characters are heroes, and Superman is allegorically/symbolically/metaphorically meant to be comic's Jesus. Supes is also christian if I remember correctly.
>>154156862Who else other than MEEEEEEE *SCHLUUUUUUURRRRRRRRRPPPPPPP*
>>154162011You said the following "thats the perk of following Superman, i can choose that MY HERO is only Silver Age superman until the day that DC decides to fuck his story, as almost was done in Death Metal. until then, Moore gave him a somewhat good ending"You admitted it was possible for DC to fuck with Silver Age superman. Well they did. By making a story where he was fucked. in the ass. by a russian.
I like big burly dudes spreading dainty ladies.
>>154162013Which group is Jesus king of?
>>154161780Holy chaining scaling, you're chaining anti-feats now. and not even correctly either,
>>154162039Vete de nuevo en barco imbecil
>I can't punch down on Goku>ACK- trying to punch down on Simon didn't work>I know! I'll fight Jesus ChristSuperKEKs are pathetic. They lost 100$ of the time
>>154161826Ok, but what the fuck does that have to do with my post, tho?
>>154162075Kings?
>>154162039so superman is outclassed by this guy?
I just defeated Goku three times in a row.
>>154162075Those who accept His gift of salvation (definitely not jews).
>>154162143LITERALLY NOBODY...
>>154162143No one ever...
>>154162148...but SuperCHAD!!
>>154162087JAJAJAJAJAJA rajá de acá negro de mierda que no te quieren ni en tu casa.>>154162093Dude don't even try to side with me when your pic is an objectively wrong ai image based on a non canon fanart.>>154162134I guess so.>>154162075Everything and everyone.
>>154162143Kratos, the true featsman.
I just ate the entire Dragon Ball cosmology...
>>154162172Also Kratos...
>>154152365I don't believe you.
Reminder Sonic RAPES and GAPES Goku and his entire verse
CUBETOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOS
>>154162145>definitely not jews
154161398154161466154161486154161512154161535154161551154161580154161619154161663154161677154161711154161730154161771154161830154161918154161962154161977154162066154162116154162134These are all my posts btw. Or at least I think that all of them. Might have scrolled past 1 or 2
>>154161962Superman is Christian and submits his power as Jesus' own.
>>154162217>no argumentYour LOSS is acknowledged.
>>154162222nice get
I don't know why you want to hurt me.
>>154162274I need you to think of me. By any means necessary.
>>154162289Why?
>>154162291Becuase then I'm always with you.
>>154162314The most affect thing is spamming a million images, why not do that?
VSBwikia? Our Holy text
>>154161164That's because the number is ridiculously big, not because is fake or something The whole point of the scene is to stablish the massive scope of paradise, it would make no sense otherwise
cucky VSBWchaddy CSAP
>>154162339What is CSAP?
Who wins this?
Dinosaur MUs anyone?
>>154160025SLAY queen
>>154161572Holy shit, the dc meta setting.
>>154162367the site that has Kratos and Mario listed above boundless
>>154161497Too much for DB, they can't deliver kino like that
>>154160085I have a sneaking feeling there's gonna be a touhou DLC for crossworlds..
>>154162454PFFT
>>154162454>the site that has [[Facts]] and [[More True Facts]]
>>154161618He beat fanfic kyle which ultra stomps composite superman.
>Feats keep losing while statements, lore and ScalingLORDS keep winningCucky featsChaddy statements loreBvlly scaling
What determines a clitty cosmology?What determines a cucky cosmology?What determines a chaddy cosmology?What determines a bucky cosmology?What determines a bully cosmology?
>>154162553The distinction between feats and lore is arbitrary and stupid in the first place
>>154162590Wrong. Its like evidence to hearsay
Cucky primary sourcesChaddy secondary sources.BVLLY TERTIARY SOURCECHADBVLL MAKING IT UP
>Junpei victim thinks he can beat Yuta
>>154162603If it were real life, yes, but it's fiction.>>154162616Now we are crossing the line between shit post and mental retardation.
>>154162433>Touhou went from a irrelevant verse no one even mentioned here to having Reimu carry a team with Kratos and Goku in it Maybe I should follow this example and force my irrelevant literal who verse...
>>154162618explain how Yuta bypass Stop Time
>>154162671>Jotaro stops time>Punches Yuta with his wall level attacks>Nothing happens>Gets his head split in half
>>154162660>Touhou went from a irrelevant verse no one even mentioned here to irrelevant verse one guy tries to push incessantlyUh okay?
>>154162671Explain how that helps him when his range and AP is dogshit in comparison to Yuta's
>>154162590Calling DB and Kratosfags inventing fanfiction to meatride Kratos "lore" is an insult to actual lore scaling.
R > FF transcendence.F R > F transcendence.
A reminder that Saiyans can't breathe in space.
>>154162683>Jotaro stops time >punches Yuta's brain directly >Uses the remaining time to "ORAORAORA" him for extra humiliation Easy >>154162698Yuta relies on scaling to have any decent AP, and that pic is from a heavily nerfed Jotaro with a 2 second Timestop.At his peak Jotaro can stop time for 5 seconds, more than enough to scramble Yuta's insides
>>154162770Yuta is above wall level...
>>154162721superman kneeling on gokufloyd's neck
>>154162503look up Metal875 on desuarchive
>>154162793Post Yuta's Best Feat
>>154162845That feat is unironically below building level lol
this is the jjba creator.uh yeah... anything to say now?
>>154162697>one guyThere's at least 3 Touhoufags here
>>154162683>Sukuna slash = building level>SP punch = powerful enough to fuck up a rollercoaster >Yuta= not even building level
>>154162193HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLYniiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiicc!
>>154162815I'm sorry, but I can't do that because I'm phone posting. Could you please post a screenshot of what you intend for me to see?
The Yuta vs Ryu vs Uro fight was more impressive than anything that happened in every Jotaro fight
GODnic likes to WATCH.
>>154162898Why does Sonic have cute submissive fuck-me eyes here
>>154162889*irrelevant verse one mildly mentally handicapped ESL guy, one guy only in it to spam softcore pornography, and some annoying samenic-tier sperg all try to incessantly push
I want to be a sissy slut so bad...
>>154159438>FAGrio FAGGOT fantasies Done. Mario will never have a perfect win streak by the way.
>JJK character gets all uppity and asks for a fight >They rely on scaling, narrative, and modulo upscales to stand a chance (they still lose)>The JJK character can't post any Feats, when confronted against this they just downplay his opponent's feats while avoiding posting anything themselves This looks familiar...
>>154162882Gege suffers the same illness, im sorry
"You are witch no longer." -Doctor Strange.
https://youtu.be/ox-UqSuAV4w?si=3kZjLMKSYzEn8IZQ>the cockroach curse fucks up a bridge, covers a good chunk of a river>ryu shoots a big ass laser covering like a hundred meters>yuta throws a set of train cars at ryuidk can we see the impressive feats in Jojo?
>>154162922Because you were molested
Jotaro murders Yuta. Yuta has a better chance against John from UNordinary but even then John could copy Yuta's whole kit and mix it with other abilities unless Yuta.
Does Yuta have higher durability than Dio? If no he has a decent chance at winning otherwise he dies to Star Platinum.People are also REALLY underestimating how smart Jotaro is.
>>154162988Wanda would fold Strange though?
Can we see Star Platinum lugging train cars?
Reminder the only reason kurorushi didn't kill Yuta was because Yuta has reverse cursed energy the thing that specifically kills curses. Without that he would've died.
>>154162923Outside of the porn (based) you just described every single /dbg/ Fanbase
"You are a heterosexual no longer" -Sonic.
>>154162973Nigger Denji had country level swords with wall level feats and mountain level bullets with city block attacks. Both were frauds.
>>154156862Those types of people are ironically the most racist mfs.
https://youtu.be/mI8kcuIM4zA?si=Ssl1EHKpJuDGwc8n>0:45Can we see Star Platinum lift up the entire street and cause cars and buildings to fly up?
Can we see Yuta NOT being voiced by an actual troon?
>>154163062Well this isn't too far off what Dio is physically capable of without even using his stand and Star Platinum is A LOT stronger than Dio physically
I'm sure that the strongest hxh character could easily kill sukuna and Yuta
>>154163146I'm sure even some of the weaker and weirder ones could too.
>>154163037That's arguable, but I was implying he beats the characters from touhou.
>>154163146Netero and Meruem both speedblitz.
>>154163099Pretty sure this is more impressive than uhhh every Jojo destruction feat outside of shit like MiH
>>154163062>"Yuta is above building level!" >Posts a wall level featThis is unironically weaker than >>154162845
>>154163098He kills every Viltrumite at the same time with the first one, at least show Immortal. He really isn't too far off from a weak Viltrumite. Even comic Immortal at the very least kills thrag though
>>154163194>anime
>>154163208God. Invincible is borderline incomprehensible when it comes to knowing how strong anyone is compared to anyone else.Like Best Tiger was able to dodge and hit one of the Evil Marks with bullets, but I don't think he's supposed to be remotely near the speed of light.I know the Evil Marks are weaker than the Protagonist Mark, but still you'd think they'd at least be in the ballpark of one another for Mark to not curbstomp them.
>>154163251Isn't almost every Jojo calc, especially the 25000x FTL shit reliant on the anime?
>>154163251>you can't use the source material to scale???
>>154163194That's a feat of Uro's sky manipulation, not Yuta's raw strength.And according to JJKeks you can't use hax to scale a character's strength so...
>>154163268>anime>source material JJKfags live up to their reputation
>>154163194>pink bitch is using hax to move the ground>muh feat>Yoru used hax to compress Orgon>no it doesnt count!! she is moving it using hax
>>154163161>Strange picking on Marisa for some reason KWAB
>>154163268NTA, but JJK's anime is pretty different in terms of presentation and scale.
>>154163286JJKnegros are legit the most hypocritical scalers around
>Uro is shown displacing a dozen of cars and mid-rise buildings>suddenly "YOU CAN'T USE THE ANIME" and "HAX HAX DOESN'T COUNT AS STRENGTH" from "25000x FTL with MEGATON LASER BEAMS OFF A CANCELLED OVA" Jojohmmm...
>>154163287More like Doctor Smurf
Can Yuta also use hax to lift up a street?
>>154163161>Strange hiding from Dr. Fate and picking on the entire Touhou cosmologyKWAB!
>>154163287Is that the main character?>>154163331Doctor Smurfs the entire verse, hell yeah.
BRING ME PART 0 MANGA-ONLY YUTA.
>>154163337Ehhh... W-well...
>>154163337He can actually. He copied her technique
>>154163337Doesn't he have Uro's ability as one of the things he copied?
>>154163369So... Can you post him doing that?
>>154163342Everyone and their mothers know that Fate ultra anihilates the entirety of touhou with far more ease than his vassal.
...you weren't supposed to actually post feats...
>>154163356Doesn't pure love beam from the JJK0 manga cause more destruction than anything Jotaro does?
Notice how Strangefags instantly deflects to Touhou the second Fate enters the scene
Besides Reimu and Fate what other MUs does Strange have?
>>154163374He used it to redirect the Granite Cannon.
>>154163399there is no shame in running away from GilCHAD
>>154163399Are you fucking stupid, pretending to be retarded, or did you not see that WE, AS IN EVERYONE, already know that Fate solos both Strange and touhou?
*wins all of his matchups*
>>154163463Gilgamesh vs Strange is a thing?
>>154163194>>154163442...well one time in Part 7...and in the cancelled Jojo movie...
......
CSM bros we are being vindicated
>New Berserk Chapter>Guts is revealed to half Astral BeingDoes that mean his best MU is Danny Phantom?
>>154163286Yuta can use that technique thoughbeit
nos invaden los aliens. salvame, ICE
STORMCALCS FROM AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT PART IN A DIFFERENT TIMELINE AND CANCELLED MOVIE CALCS I NEED YOU NOW!!!
>>154163512alright, tell me, Yuta´s body durability scales to the force of that hax?
>>154163542It’s all cursed energy baby
>>154163542Yes, actually. He survived multiple instances of thin ice breaker
>>154163542We can see Yuta tanking Uro's hits with her technique and Thin Ice Breaker so...
>>154163542Ryu tanked thatSukuna says post training Yuto is as tough as Ryu
>>154163575Plus Sukuna decapitated Ryu in like a snap
>>154163490Touhou vs Bleach is interesting
>>154163511I am not even surprised by that to be honest. But I am happy about it because it further reinforces the idea that Guts is actually going to eventually kill Griffith
WELL YOU SEE IF JOTARO USES HIS 25000X FTL 80 TONS OF TNT PUNCHES IN A SINGLE TIMESTOP HE CAN HIT WITH THE FORCE TO DESTROY A COUNTRY>Can we see him destroy a country in his timestop?No!
>>154163490How does Ichigo not just instantly splat Luke?
>>154163605Jotaro keeps property damage to a minimum in most of his fights
>>154163605>Can we see him destroy a countryWhy would he do that?
>>154163618>>154163624Can we see Dio destroy an entire country with his timestop?
>>154163557>>154163564Because of cursed energy reinforcement
>>154163605What don you understand, because no time passes , the damage stacks
>>154163631Why would he want to do that?
>>154163624he knew dio was hiding in Egypt. He could have just punched Egypt and destroyed it completely.
>>154163564if thats the case, can Pochita scale to a sword with the mass of an entire state because his fight?
>>154163645And kill millions of innocents?
>>154163645He wouldn't kill a shitload of innocent people just to kill Dio. Jotaro didn't even kill most of his enemies in stardust crusaders
Why didn't Dio just destroy Egypt and kill the Stardust Crusaders instantly?
>>154163557>>154163554>>154163564Because it's all cursed energy they need to actually expect and prepare for these attacks. Jotaro just freezes time and splatters Yuta pretty easily. Even if I give the benefit of the doubt to Yuta and assume he has some physical reinforcement ready to go, there is practically no way it's going to be enough to scale to any of these instances where he actively defended himself.
>>154162936>>FAGrio FAGGOT fantasies >Done. Mario will never have a perfect win streak by the way.>Canonically outdated cope by Shitnic.Sonic lost. Mario won. You may cope more though.
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Luke_Skywalker_(Legends)>BitchigoI HATE WEAKLING.
>>154162936what part of "this is outdated" do you not get, furfag
>>154163660>>154163662Jotaro wins but he can't destroy a country stop
>Star Platinum has a range of 2 meters>Jotaro can't timestop in succession like DioSo what's stopping Yuta from using his superior range, powers and power to kill Jotaro
>vsbattlewiki
dont worry Jotaro bros, you still have speedblitz
>>154159424The Chainsaw Man characters kill every JJK character they're paired with
>>154163691>using a non canon LukeENTER
>>154163710Yeah didn’t a rat hide from Jotaro just fine
>>154163710He can time stop in succession (he does need a moment to pass though for it), he just does so only when absolutely necessary because it is really bad for his health and he wouldn't be able to keep it up for long. Be he can do it and keep it up for a little bit.
According to VSBW, pic related is stronger than Denji.
>>154163722>Polnareff explicitly mentions how he can't catch Hanged Man directly because it's too fast and needs to limit the direction it can go>TWENTY FIVE THOUSAND TIMES FTL>the narrator makes the same comment about Dabura as he does with Kashimo with transcending the limits of humanity>you're capped now the verse is capped nowInteresting!
>GODBWStay.
>>154163781Blame Dabura and gege.
>>154163782>GODBW>Stay.The site literally nerfed your hero. Don't defend them like a sissy.
>>154163754He also showcased against the rat that he can time stop back to back
>>154163809
>>154163789>>154163809>retcon slanderThey FEAR GODker.
If Jotaro is 25000x FTL why did he struggle with a rat in a field?
Even a downplayed relativistic Jotaro would Blitz Yuta 100 times before he can even realize the fight started
>>154163094>Both were frauds >Doesn't point out that dust scaling is infinitely worse than using "muh anti feats" on chainsaw man I know what you are
>>154163823Canon
>>154163782>>154163809Why did they do it?
>>154163830He was sandbagging so josuke could lock the fuck in and learn from the experience.
>>154163781>TWENTY FIVE THOUSAND TIMES FTLits bullshitbut Hanged man moved as it were light, even if there was linear trayectory, SC needed to approach light speed in order to react while Hanged man was jumping
Speaking of VSBW, they deleted the Umineko verse from the site so my Nanjo pic is useless now.
>>154163894>https://vsbattles.com/threads/get-battlered-lmao-deletion-of-07th-expansion-staff-votes-5-0.191804/#post-7762302>it's real
>>154163894Why?
>>154163894Such is the fate of every weak verse
Bad day for dumb vsbw glazers...
>>154164011The content there is extremely outdated apparently, with a lot of fake or wrong scans and only one guy is working on the pages. He’s the one who made the removal thread, kek.
>>154164047Not even moving all the verse to alt battles wikia like scp? Damn that is awful actually
>>154163975Now if the GOW-verse gets “nerfed” back to country level with the upcoming game, I’m gonna have a fucking field day.
Apparently they're claiming they're gonna update it but it's gonna take a long time
Can we please pick another Yuta fight to sperg out onYuta vs Jotaro sounds unbelievably terrible
>>154164113Fine...
>>154164113What's the connection here?I can see why Johnny vs Gojo is a thing (infinity guys) but I can't see the link between Jotaro and Yuta
>>154164090They’re getting upgraded to Outerversal
>>154164090Vsbwfags actually believe in low complex gow so that would be hard to make it happen
>>154164157I think it's how Jotaro in like the first chapter couldn't control Star Platinum and he was afraid of it, like how Yuta was scared of RikaThat's literally the entire connection
>>154164164>>154164180If the new game undeniably shows that all the cosmology wank for GOW is indeed wank, then I’m sure downgrade threads might get spammed. Like how GOW got upgraded due to all the thread spam and tiring out the mods, it can get downgraded just the same, especially with the game backing up the downgrade.
>>154163975I remember asking an umineko fan on /v/ why the verse is so powerful and they basically explained it wasnt and most of these big "feats" were literally hyperbole
>>154164231Yoy can’t beat the Kratos Army, Warrior Z would destroy you
>>154164148>Yuta gets gaped super hard and JJKeks just have to accept it Kino
This is really reminiscent of high tier cultivation worlds. Where most worlds are just imaginary worlds created by god like 3rd or 4th step cultivators and only one real world exists.
>>154164231To be fair the new GOW is taking place in some afterlife world so you can't really compare anything in it to reality. And if Kratos somehow begins to have influence in that world as well (like the trailer showed) he may even get wanked more.
>>154164297Forgot pic
>>154164330The only thing we can be sure is that krasura is directly involved in the future wank/downgrade
>>154164468Why would it be? DB downgraded Kratos from where he's put at on VSBW and didn't allude to any higher scaling
Tbh I believe that dimensional scaling wanked Kratos COULD POSSIBLY BE VALID if we were to accept all lore and cosmology (and maybe even statements) as canon and valid (unless proven otherwise). BUT, if we are in agreement that videogame only Kratos is the subject in hand, then I can only say I put him at least at wall level and at most mountain level, and the latter is dubious and based on things Thor could hypothetically do.
Exactly why side with this faggot.
>>154158329Who is your hero?
>>154164487One of the gow developers saw the video so i guess he will have that in mind when making the next gow game
>>154164148>Shirou JOBmiya>gaping anyoneThat jobber couldn't even beat himself
lies
*cries*
*dies*
*tries*
because I'm under the impression you're involved.
>Yea, I can move at light speed.>No I don't make sonic booms when I move.>Yea I can jump about 10 feet into the air without shooting myself out of orbit.>Yea, my normal clothes don't explode while I move at light speed.>No I cannot circle the earth in less than a second. My travel speed does not equal my combat speed.
>Yes I can travel from galaxy to galaxy in mere seconds.>Yes I can touch every single atom in the entire universe in a plank instant.>Yes I can fire attacks that span universes.>React to that supersonic attack? What are you crazy?! MY TRAVEL SPEED DOESN'T EQUAL MY COMBAT SPEED.
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>>154164487>he's put at on VSBWplease, if you are gonna mention how db calc kratos, at least mention that it wasn't VSBW themselves that calc'd kratos. it was a raid. kratos tier in VSBW is a glorified placeholder and as such it shouldn't be mentioned seriously
>>154164491There is no point in trying to take everything showing into the games at face value when unfortunately for better or worse Kratos does indeed scale to cosmic like beings. Kratos in the games is at one moment struggling to beat a regular spartan while he is fighting Zeus the next because they are ultimately just games. Hell he is even struggling to open chests in those games, they are inconsistent by nature. And you really don't need Thor to scale Kratos at mountain level.
One MU between every single relevant franchise posted here so far (let me know if I missed any franchise)1:Makima vs Kenjaku2: Denji vs Etrigan the Demon3:Marvel: Katana Man vs Wolverine4: The Darkness Devil vs Rumia5: Gun Devil vs Hol Horse6: Power vs Meg Griffin7: Reze vs Shadow the Hedgehog8: Aki Hayakawa vs Luigi9: Darkness Devil vs Erebus / Hel10: Satoru Gojo vs Booster Gold11: Ryomen Sukuna vs Carnage12: Suguru Geto vs Toyosatomimi no Miko13: Mahito vs Yoshikage Kira14: Aoi Todo vs Peter Griffin15: Toji Fushiguro vs Knuckles the Echidna16: Kento Nanami vs Toad17: Ryomen Sukuna vs Ares18: Superman vs Thor19: John Constantine vs Marisa Kirisame20: Batman vs Old Joseph Joestar21: The Joker vs Stewie Griffin22: The Flash (Barry Allen) vs Sonic the Hedgehog23: Darkseid vs Bowser24: Wonder Woman vs Kratos25: Doctor Strange vs Reimu Hakurei26: Quicksilver vs Enrico Pucci (Made in Heaven)27: Deadpool vs Brian Griffin28: Silver Surfer vs Silver the Hedgehog29: Thanos vs Dimentio30: Gorr the God Butcher vs Kratos31: Sakuya Izayoi vs DIO32: Fujiwara no Mokou vs Peter Griffin33: Yukari Yakumo vs Blaze the Cat34: Yuyuko Saigyouji vs King Boo35: Kanako Yasaka vs Zeus36: Giorno Giovanna vs Stewie Griffin37: Diavolo vs Shadow the Hedgehog38: Kars (Ultimate Lifeform) vs Bowser39: Funny Valentine vs Odin40: Peter Griffin vs Sonic the Hedgehog41: Ernie the Giant Chicken vs Bowser42: Peter Griffin vs Hercules43: Sonic the Hedgehog vs Mario44: Chaos vs Poseidon45: Mario vs Kratos
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>>154160015The Kratosfags have been derangement posting ever since his episode.
>>154164991The problem with "cosmic like beings" is that it's only a title unless those beings in question actually do something that prove they are at a "cosmic level". The Spartan boss fight could be considered only a videogame thing and Kratos in reality one shot him (unless there is something that proves otherwise). The chests are magically sealed so that's an excuse. The "most canonical" things that happen in the videogames for an attempt to power scale Kratos based only on on-screen feats are most likely the cutscenes, if anything. I mentioned Thor because one could scale him based on the hypothetical that he could potentially create the most powerful weather phenomenon ever possible, which should scale him to mountain level and maybe even higher.>>154165010It depends on what you mean by relevant franchise. Assuming it means what I think it means, I don't see Bleach, Final Fantasy nor Kingdom Hearts, and Gurren Lagann is also relevant to me.
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>>154165198You speak the truth, brother.