Does he have a good seid or is he simple, pure evil?
>>154160757In Arabic dub they always pronounce it darkside which really annoyed me when I started hearing the sied because it sounds like "dark seed'
He apparently hates porn.
>>154160796>DARK SEED: humans keep wasting their seed, how pathetic See
Fucking Wonder Woman turned him good.
He likes Wonder Woman. Maybe that's why things are slightly less harsh for her Absolute version than the other characters'.
>>154160810I mean there was one time some villain used mind control to make Big Barda and Superman star in a porno, and Darkseid was disgusted.
>>154160873Yeah, that was a John Byrne story, naturally.
Kirby created him to be the ultimate force of evil in the universe. Kirby's Darkseid had no redeeming features.Anything redeemable about him was tacked on later by lesser talents who didn't feel like sticking to Kirby's characterization.
>>154160848since when?
>>154160757>>154162441He is supposed to be a ruthless fucker, but even Kirby saw a Darkseid measured enough to have a wife, not just a woman to bear his children a lover.It's one of the reasons making him a completely alien embodiment of evil doesn't click with me.
>>154160796>He apparently hates porn.No, he loves it so much that he has agents go to Earth to specially acquire it for him.
>>154162441>Kirby created him to be the ultimate force of evil in the universe. Kirby's Darkseid had no redeeming features.Not quite true. He lectured the Forever People instead of merely crushing them.
>>154160757He's a crap character.
He was happily married until his cunt of a mother killed his wife.
>>154164224>>154162559No
>>154164224>>154162559Yes
>>154164578>>154164601w-which is it??
>>154162519In Super Friends his whole motivation was that he wanted to marry her
There's this quote from Jack Kirby that I find interesting ""But he [Darkseid] couldn't control his own son, and of course his own son became his worst enemy. And there was nothing he could do about it. He was continually frustrated... That's one of the truths that I always knew existed. A father will never hurt his own son. And so that was the core of the New Gods"
The last time someone tried to play on Darkseid's kindness.
>>154168571D'saad sees where this is going
>>154168571Was that neccessary? Also, Darkseid keeps concubines?
>>154168677Orion had to come from somewhere
>>154168526shitty cartoons arent canon
>>154160757His whole thing is being the ultimate evil. The nicest thing about him is that he'll occasionally bring back to life his minions that he killed.
>>154168677Yes it was.
>>154168694Product of an arranged marriage.
>>154160757He has redeeming/humanizing facets by nature of being modeled after real-world tyrants, who notoriously had horrible upbringings and complicated relationships with the women in their lives. Darkseid's character is equal parts Satan, Odin, and YHWH. Cosmic Demiurge.Kirby's Darkseid is a "paper tiger" and as Feminine as he is Masculine. Saturn as the Devouring (Mother) Father. He is an imposing Phallic force that stands tall and unstoppable as a conquering force, but he is quite Yonic: he relies on Magic, brainwashing, and manipulation, is cowardly and scared of direct confrontation, sits around on his butt all day, and is remarkably passive in certain aspects. He is the Enslaving Father who turns his children into slaves within Plato's Cave, but he is also the Devouring Mother who doesn't want to be alone as the one who holds the Womb.Darkseid craves Anti-Life because what is Anti-Life but not Ego Death and the false solution to the Hedgehog's Dilemma? If everyone is Darkseid, then Darkseid will never suffer loss again. No one will ever leave him. No one will ever hate him.
>>154160848>>154160847>>154168526There's an interesting juxtaposition with how Wonder Woman was designed to be the maternal heroine who ushers in Loving-Submission to tyrannical manchildren. Darkseid loves Wonder Woman because she is the Source of the Unconditional Love he craves, the very thing he lacks that drives him to seek Anti-Life. A mother's love, a Presence that says "I love you, I am proud of you, I accept you for who you are, and I will never leave you". The kind of love that lets him tear down his walls and allows him to put his life into the hands of another.The tyrant seeks for true companionship, maternal love, and the safety and freedom to be emotionally vulnerable. Their unhealthy desire for control and their engagement in anti-social violence is the direct result of traumatic experiences as children and a lack of parental stability. >“A child who is not embraced by the village will burn it down to feel its warmth.” No one is born evil. That is the whole point of Orion and Mister Miracle being swapped at birth. Our experiences and our communities shape us and ultimately impact the choices we make.
>>154160848>Absolute Batman is better off compared to Superman because Darkseid respects Batman as a human with conviction and as a human counterpart to his son, Orion...is that why Absolute Batman has an axe? That's a hunter's weapon...and the Absolute Batman villains look more like monsters to slay.
>>154160757It's worth pointing out that the rumored ending to Kirby's New Gods was supposed to conclude with Darkseid saving the life of Orion and Kalibak after discovering the truth behind Anti-Life (Love), and then dying in the process before ascending to become one with the Source Wall.
>>154160873I love it when tyrannical overlord villain's dislike small-time crooks as much as the next guy. It always stood out to me in Ben 10 when Vilgax tells Rojo "...and then you may return to your pathetic criminal lifestyle."
>>154160757https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYaOFgKeg6o
>>154160847>>154160848Wat
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>>154169834That's actual cinema.We derailed terribly.
>>154160796No he hates rape.There was an evil New God called "Sleez" who mind controlled Big Barda and raped her physically and Darkseid found out was like "Woah naw that's fucked up. He's gotta die."I'm not bullshitting you.
>>154170412>Darkseid hates rape>Bueno Excelente still labeled as a "hero"
>>154160757I always see it as if you are to give him a virtue, he is disciplined. He wants absolute control and that includes himself, he isn't ever going to give in to hedonism or slothfulness. >>154170412Relatedly, I like to imagine his problem with Sleez wasn't necessarily the rape in and of itself but in representing everything Darkseid isn't in his evil. Sleez is self destructive evil, driven by and a slave to his base desires, degrading himself in his debauchery. He has no higher ambitions then gooning and Darkseid hates that.
>>154169743>No one is born evilif only that were true but psychopathy is something people are born with
