>>154162797
It was alright but the real time gimmick ended up hurting it the longer it went on.

>>154162797
It was alright but lowkey Richard was the more interesting Spider-man compared to Peter. Especially by the end where Peter felt like he didn’t move the plot along in any interesting way while Richard was more involved in the plot and wanted to erase his family records from the Maker’s systems.

>>154162797
When Peter is the most boring character in a Spider-Man book something has gone horribly wrong

>>154162797
Started off with potential but the pacing dragged on and it fumbled at the end.

Plus the main Ultimate book killing Peter made this whole thing completely pointless.

>>154162797
I read the first volume. The first issue is the only half-decent issue by concept alone, then it just falls off completely. The premise being the strongest bit from the entire New Ultimateverse leads me to believe that this was primary motivation.

>>154162797
Started out strong, but fell off hard after Kraven's hunt.

>>154162797
Very disappointing.

>>154162797
It outsold mainline ASM consistently solely based on Peter and MJ being married.

Imagine how much more brutal the curbstomp would have been if Jonathan Hickman was capable of giving a flying fuck about actually writing and developing characters as much as his worldbuilding autism.

People complain that MJ didn't have much agency but but she was a hell of a lot better than the mega cunts that are Insomniac and Wells/post-Wells 616 Mary Jane Watsoon--it's wild how simply not making her a bitch is such an insurmountable task for most writers these days and Hickman leaped over that ground level bar because he legit did not care about writing the characters and is on record stating as much when picked for Nu-USM.

>>154162797
I liked it. It also helped me move on from Marvel once it was over.

>>154162797
Started okay but ultimately, pun not intended, the countdown shit really hampered it. Ironically like one of DC's shittier crisis countdown things. Then Absolute completely stole its thunder in a way nobody really expected and the rest was history.

>>154162797
Crap.

>>154162797
>What did you think of this series?
It... existed.

>>154162797
That giving Peter a family is not the move since no one can write a story about a family in the current age of comics

>>154163755
He always has been.

The monthly countdown after the kraven arc really hurt the book. The first couple issues leading up the christmas one were great. It was building up Peter stepping into the world of 6160 as Spider-Man, establishing major players, stakes. the Spider-world of NUSM is a different beast than classical ASM but it understood what made Pete's cast of supporting characters worked. You were sucked into their lives, you cared where all of this was going on, you got so much out of Gwen and Harry from three issues. You get so much out of the Watson household from on (1) issue.

And throughout the first 12 issues we get more and more insight into who Pete is.

The problem is the next 12 issues after that is like skimming through major arcs in a 50-100 issue run.

So much more was established and introduced, so many more characters and it was an awful decision that derailled any sense of tension or investment in the book because it was either skipped in the timeskip or not brought up again.

the monthly issue thing hurt it badly, and i think Hickman should've adjusted his plans if they were committing to the countdown, or do away with it. because ultimately even if the line wasn't cancelled by Endgame it was not worth it.

NUltimate went off the rails immediately by the second half of almost all the books. Ultimate BP became a nothingburger, UXM lost momentum, it felt like they wanted to give the team freedom to do whatever they want but it ended up backfiring as a lot of these books chafed under the countdown or wasn't given better direction to build up to the event.

Even Ultimates the "main" book of the line suffered under this time constraint, with underdeveloped or undeveloped characters, and too much focus on worldbuilding.

NUltimate suffered under a lack of vision and things beyond it's control(editorial) and its sad to see what had the makings of a truly new and unique new universe to fall apart.

>>154170339
>The problem is the next 12 issues after that is like skimming through major arcs in a 50-100 issue run.
I think this is when Hickman learned that no one will pick up USM after him, so he speedran all of his plot points.
Honestly, NUltimate is just disappointing. Endgame reduce the main cast of all of the other books to support characters. Its like spitting on the work of Hickman, Momoko, Hill and Condon.
If it was me, I would merge all of the runs into a single run and call it Ultimate Alliance.

What's the consensus for why Ultimate even ended at all? Even if it wasn't very good surely it was selling well enough to keep going

>>154170957
I keep trying to tell /co/ that Camp is a terrible writer, but you all keep getting tricked by good art.