1/2 I watched that movie yesterday, and that scene where Woody almost gets into the box with Bo Peep is even more infuriating when you realize that Bo Peep subtly encouraged him to go in in a way that, frankly, was kind of manipulative on her part! Bo Peep says something like, "You know, kids lose their toys every day. Sometimes they get lost in the yard, or they get put in the wrong box...", before her sheep move aside to make room for Woody to enter. She's implying that now it's Woody's turn to "get lost," even though Andy is devastated to lose one of his favorite toys. It seems so selfish and manipulative of her, and also very selfish of Woody to almost agree, even knowing he shouldn't. I find it extremely difficult to believe that Bo Peep, with that "If you only knew how much Andy misses you" line from the first movie, would disregard Woody's loyalty in such a blatant way. She was very close to Woody and clearly knew how much he cared about being there for everyone he loved, no matter what. So, like... I don't understand why she seemingly forgot that all of a sudden, except perhaps because "we needed something convenient for our story to move forward."
>>1541741762/2This scene is even more irritating when you consider that the reason they saved RC immediately beforehand was precisely because, you know, it wasn't his time to go yet, since the toys knew Andy would be upset to lose him suddenly. I have no idea why Bo Peep thought losing RC would be bad for Andy, but losing Woody wouldn't be...?And why turn Buzz and Woody into passive goofballs? Whenever we saw Buzz and the other toys in the previous films, he naturally led the group when Woody wasn't around. He led them on the rescue mission in Toy Story 2, and in Toy Story 3, when the toys were in daycare, he took charge and went to talk to Lotso himself to get them put in a better room. Except in Toy Story 4, when they sometimes try to make him look silly for laughs, and that notion in the third film of never being separated again? It seems Jessie is going to do that in the new movie.
>>154174176Did you know that this movie had several rewritten scripts and even entire parts of the film deleted? There was John Lasseter's version, a romantic comedy where Woody and Buzz go to find Bo after seeing her location in an episode of the show Antiques Roadshow. The antique shop was transformed into a toy New York. And Bo had an outfit inspired by Rosie the Riveter, and later made a new dress (the one in the photo) to attract the attention of a porcelain doll collector.Honestly, it seems more interesting than this garbage that is the final version. The truth is that, according to a Pixar employee, there was a scene where the other porcelain dolls, upon discovering that Bo was "fake," pushed her out of the display case and she shattered into pieces. Woody then rescues her, which was considered very muh misogynistic and sexist by several Pixar foids that's why, in the final version, Bo is more "empowered" n sheit
>>154174514Forgot the pic
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>>154174560>>154174542>>154174514Thanks To be honest, I actually found it more interesting than the final version at least they respected her personality, and it reminded me of Buzz's rescue mission in the second movie for some reason So you're telling me that one of the motivations for this movie was politics? Kek My wife even questioned why Woody would abandon his group for someone who treats him so badly in such a toxic relationship
>>154174176And what about the lesbian couple scene? This movie is unnecessary. It also tries to appeal to nostalgia, like Buzz being a space ranger again, but it's worse than in the third one where Buzz was at least useful; here he just presses buttons like a mentally retarded person without any apparent reason. Shouldn't he know he's been a toy since 1995?
>>154174514This version of the film would be scrapped in 2016 after the film was delayed for a second time, from June 15, 2018, to June 21, 2019, swapping dates with Incredibles 2, causing the latter to be moved up, losing 1 year of production Bo Creep's voice actress said something like 60% of the movie was scrapped or something like that
>>154174176This movie is a low-quality retcon. It was very painful to see Woody leave Bonnie for Bo Peep, because it completely contradicts his character in the previous three films. Furthermore, most of his character in the fourth film contradicts his character in the previous three it seems like they didn't even watch the previous films. About Bo Pee well, We only really saw her in the first film, and although we didn't see much of her, the version of Bo Peep in Toy Story 4 seems inaccurate. It gives the impression that they tried too hard to turn her into a "powerful boss" or something like that, and it wouldn't be so bad if most of us didn't know she wasn't like that in the first film. In this one, she's much more mean and condescending towards Woody.
>>154175093>>154174648Gabby Gabby as someone who is autistic and has ADHD, her story frustrates me because they definitely could have opted for a narrative of acceptance and true self, but we end up getting whatever it was... most of the time she appears on screen, she's manipulative and not a good person, but we're supposed to feel sorry for her and be happy for her when she gets the ending she deserves? I suspect someone is projecting these things onto these films.Maybe it wouldn't be so bad if it weren't so obviously poorly written. If I were to rewrite her story, I think I would have preferred that she kept the defective larynx and maybe the child she took in had a stutter or something, I don't know, so that the kidoid would feel comfortable and identify with the situation. It would certainly be better than what we got.
>>154174176This Bo is not same Bo Andy had. It looks and acts way too different.
>>154175448I really hate this movie as well, because of changing Woody's character like 180 degrees. And also the new DEI story arc of Bo Peep, because of course we have to make a whole movie making the statement: 'Bo Peep is not a densel in distress'...
>>154174560>>154174542Super cute
Insane that KH3 (a game who has many writing and pacing problem ) gave us a better Toy Story's "film" than fucking Pixar
>>154176764Is it true that the film had already started being made? It seems there are some test animations on the internet
>>154174176Better than TS2
>>154174542>>154174514I'm sure it would have been a wonderful and exciting story, but perhaps a DVD spin-off like Brother Bear would have worked better. But what I'm even more certain of is that if this version of the film had been the last one, released in 2017, it wouldn't have been as hated as the 2019 version.
>>154177900>>154174733>>154174595Blame the women and their personal agenda. Screenwriters Rashida Jones and Will McCormack likely left the production in early 2017, and their departure from the project was only made public in November 2017, during the controversy involving John Lasseter, citing "creative and, more importantly, philosophical differences." I'll let you think for a minute what "philosophical differences" mean here. Martin Hynes joined the production as a screenwriter in 2017, but for no reason left the project, and Stephany Folsom ended up being hired to write the new script alongside Andrew Stanton, and guess what the result was? This garbage that the OP is complaining about. I'm not even the most right-wing person out there, but this movie was literally hijacked by feminists.
>>154178010>I'm not even the most right-wing person out there, but this movie was literally hijacked by feminists.I'm not defending anything, but weren't there any reports of harassment when this film was being made, or something like that? Or is it all part of a conspiracy?
>>154178044These "accusations" were never proven to begin with, and the strangest thing is that the directors and screenwriters changed quite abruptly when these alleged accusations began to surface at Pixar. The film had several different versionsthe first included the subplot of Woody and Buzz switching heads, and Bo Peep accompanied Woody to Bonnie's house. It was more conceptual. The most developed version, and the one with which its public announcement would be made, was the second version, written by Rashida Jones and Will McCormack from 2014 to 2016, a romantic comedy starring Woody and Bo Peep. The only reason this version was denounced is due to "misogyny" and "philosophical differences" because Bo still maintained her classic delicate personality, and Woody would save and rescue her.
>>154178188>a romantic comedy starring Woody and Bo Peep.I honestly don't think it could work as a TS movie.
>>154178274Maybe not, maybe yes. But I personally think the script should be "polished" a bit more to fit the TS universe, but overall it would be a good movie. I liked the concepts, the idea of Bo breaking down.
>>154174176The single worst part about TS4 is everything that tries to justify Woody leaving Bonnie and the toys. His big character trait is loyalty and that's been hammered across three movies everytime something had come along to challenge it. There's a theme of parenthood in this franchise and Woody leaving for Bo is like a dad ditching his kid for a bitchy ex he hasn't seen in years. The movie acts like Bonnie doesn't need Woody anymore, despite:>woody had only been ignored for THREE DAYS, confirmed by a clock toy in the beginning>woody is seen being PLAYED with on the road trip montage>the fuckface fork's existence is only because woody helped bonnie at school>woody is the only character doing ANYTHING about keeping fuckface aliveBut because Pixar needed some emotional ending about whatever to make Disney adults cry "absolute cinema" we got this steaming pile of horseshit of a movie.
>>154179041HR is supposed to be the ones handling these sort of things.
And 5 is about to be way worse.
>>154179088>His big character trait is loyalty and that's been hammered across three movies everytime something had come along to challenge itHe was on board to go to Japan in the second movie up till near the end.
>>154179130He DIDN'T want to go to Japan and was brainwashed by what is essentially a cult of 3 people.
>>154179121>considers a Non Toy to be her favorite toyYou don't grasp the concept that the movie was trying to present there.This is in indictment of media literacy.I don't care left of right, could you at least understand what their getting across?Forky is a toy because the force that governs whatever is a toy or not deemed it so, even if he had an existential crisis.>>154179149Yes, he did. He was convinced that it was a good idea. Jessie's story of abandonment was what cinched it.In a not too dissimilar way that Woody talked Jessie into coming with him in telling her that Andy has a sister.
>>154179130>>154179192Woody had his worldview challenged by the idea of going to Japan, only to realize what he was doing when Buzz showed up, someone who he more or less taught. Woody grew after this and Toy Story 3 was about being there for another kid after the past one finally grew up. TS4 basically throws all of this away.
>>154179269>only to realize what he was doing when Buzz showed upWoody sent Buzz away. What got to him was when he scratched the paint off of the bottom of his boot that revealed Andy's name.
>>154179115Ha.Haha. I work in a shop. All men. But there's also an office up front. When we get new product in one of the office people comes out and inspects it.Right now it's a man. Used to be a woman. Big chubby woman. One day she's walking past our forklift driver, trips and falls. He helps her up, then soon finds out he's being accused of groping her. Nicest dude in the shop, Jolly young fat guy. Couldn't believe it.HR steps in.He was suspended for two weeks no pay. She left the company with extra severance pay after threatening to sue. A week afterwards I'd find out from my boss that everyone in upper management viewed the footage (we have cameras all over the shop), agreed he was innocent, but also agreed it'd be a nightmare to not take her side and instead just quietly punish him and make her satisfied. Boss tried to fight it but was just too far down the ladder.It's so fucked. HR is not there to help you. They are there to save face for the company, nothing more. If throwing you under the bus potentially paints the company in a brighter light, your ass is going under.
>>154179269>>154179327Also, in Toy Story 3 Woody is trying to convince the other toys into coming back with him to Andy. They only changed their minds about returning when they realized that the kindergarten toys were run by a mafia don like figure.
>>154179327Oh yeah, I forgot about that. Still, I would imagine "YOU ARE A TOY" rang through his mind after that.
>>154179409To be more direct to the scene I mentioned, I would also imagine the scene where Buzz showed the bottom of his boot to Woody having Andy's name.
>>154179088>The single worst part about TS4 is everything that tries to justify Woody leaving Bonnie and the toys. His big character trait is loyalty and that's been hammered across three movies everytime something had come along to challenge it.Exactly. At the end of the third movie, when Andy gives the toys to Bonnie, Woody is reluctant to go to the attic because he knows and wants them to still be loved by someone and to still have some use instead of staying in the attic indefinitely. He prefers to see them in good hands, with affection, than at the bottom of a box for years. But the fourth movie comes along and makes us believe that Bonnie doesn't actually care about Woody and the others and prefers to play with a silly trash fork, even though in the third movie she showed an attachment to Woody and even made him the hero of her fanfics. Woody tries to prove to the retarded fork that he can be a real toy if Bonnie sees him as such. So, to be honest, I'm not a fan of this character, but at least his connection to Woody makes sense. Forced. And Woody abandons and contradicts himself to live with a doll with a very silly and evil appearance who will try to ruin all their plans? Oh, and guess what? I'm sure this character appears on screen more than Buzz and Jessie combined. It's. So. Depressing.
Why are you all ignoring the fact that Buzz magically forgot he CAN'T FLY? This scene is pathetic and poorly written on such brutal levels that it makes me doubt if we are a thinking species.
>>154179642The plot holes are so numerous... what bothers me most is that final scene where the toys desperately try to stop Bonnie's dad from leaving the park because they forgot Woody. Then we have silly things like toys messing with the brakes and accelerators, posing as GPS devices that even her dad found strange but didn't check anything for some reason, or even the hysterical scream of that blue dinosaur didn't make him doubt for a minute... or when Buzz uses his normal voice to tell Bonnie about her backpack, tell me, why the hell would a 90s space toy say something so specific as "Did you forget your backpack?" Or something like that Didn't anyone find that strange? And how Who wrote this, for fuck's sake?
>>154174560>>154174542Old Bo peep was so cute. It's a shame that they deleted this version, thank you, foids. >>154174176
>>154179130Woody was ready to leave the original group because he's with Jessie, Bullseye, and Pete, and he was manipulated enough to leave until Buzz convinced him to come back. It was a cult of mentally retarded people. Toy Story 4 reverses everything Woody learned in the first three films, and the entire movie revolves around a pipe cleaner and a fork who want to kill each other.
The idiots here don't understand the depth of Bo's development... let me remind you of something: Old Bo had absolutely no personality. Like zero. Now she has a real personality and is a real character. Bo suffered in the outside world and learned that being demure and submissive gets you nowhere, that's a universal truth because I know that's what happened to me. Bo Peep proved that waiting to be saved by men is a total waste of time.
>>154180049Femcel alert.
>>154180049>The idiots here don't understand the depth of Bo's development... let me remind you of something: Old Bo had absolutely no personality. Like zero.That's not true. You're confusing screen time with lack of personality and personality development. They are different things. Bo, throughout the two films, didn't actually have her personality explored due to circumstances: she was made of porcelain and was fragile and confined to Andy's room, and I think you realized that the Toy Story films don't take place in Andy's room. The argument that she changed over time doesn't justify her petty behavior, and it doesn't make sense, you know why? The flashback made her seem all independent when she's helping Woody save a toy, just to force the issue with the phrase "She's always been like this," when obviously that wasn't the case.
>>154180134>>154180060Bo had no personality whatsoever in these films and was simply irrelevant. Why don't you admit that the fourth film gave her a real personality? Besides, the flashback didn't show her "changed" or anything like that. All the toys helped Bo; she spent years alone and surviving alone. She knew she had to be strong. Since my youth, I've been manipulated into thinking we should be "demure and delicate." The result? Nobody took me seriously. I was always manipulated and used. People only respect me now because I'm "tough."
>>154180176She wasn't always a strong and independent heroine. She used to be a feminine and delicate doll, who was played by Andy as the damsel in distress. Overall, though, I didn't like that they turned Bo Peep into a tomboy and this independent heroine who seems like a Mary Sue. She was great as a feminine and delicate character. She was also very arrogant and condescending towards Woody throughout the journey and wasn't even the kind, loving, supportive, and understanding person she used to be. And you want to tell me that Woody abandons his family just to be with her because Bonnie didn't play with him for three days? >Bo had no personality whatsoever in these films and was simply irrelevantThat's not true
>>154180290>That's not trueSomeone here didn't watched the movies
OP is basically at the half hour point of the 6 hour scathing YT review, lmao.
>>154180290The problem with so many characters like this is that they undermine the strengths the feminine characters did have. She was an emotional voice of reason that could anchor Woody and the others. That has no value however unless she's a turbo badass because all they see is the physical.
>>154181552Lunatics like this one>>154180049
>>154181431>Six hoursHow? How are these fuckos like this? It's Toy Story Fucking 4. I don't think you could make a six hour retrospective on Lord of the Rings six hours.
>>154180340It seems like you're the one who didn't watch the movies, and that's why this seems so personal? Her participation contributes to the films, especially the first one. She appears as much as Mr. Potato Head in the first film, for example. Bo Peep is the only character, at a certain point in the film, who misses Woody and wants him back, and she gave him the benefit of the doubt because she knows Woody and he wouldn't do it out of malice. She also tried to calm the situation when the toys were trying to throw Woody out the window and stop them during the fight, remember? She doesn't have much screen time in the films, it's true, but from the scenes she appears in, it's clear that she is loyal, kind, delicate, sweet, and possesses the characteristics of a true shepherdess, maintaining a calm and peaceful atmosphere. Very different from saying she has no personality at all, as he said>>154181552The redesign and the abandonment of virtually all of its characteristics truly define the dividing line between the two versions and essentially separate the character from its previous version. This film would be interesting.>>154174514
>>154180176>>154180049Ironically, her new personality is as generic as it gets saar she's super tough, hard-nosed, and independent? Okay, cool, Jesse is too, but Jesse seems unique, while Bo Peep seems like any other character of that type in other movies.
>>154174176My wife and I fell asleep 30 minutes into the movie and woke up in a bad mood because of it. I'm not kidding. Boring movie. Slow. The first one started with the toys on a mission to find out which toys Andy would get at his birthday party and the fear of being replaced. The second was a Buzz Lightyear game, but then a rescue mission. The third movie starts melancholic but is interesting. Compared to the first three movies, this one was simply... boring. We swore we'd never finish watching it and pretend it doesn't exist (like Indiana Jones). The first three movies are still legendary and we'll only show those to our children. It's over. There is no Toy Story 5. From your comments about the ending, it seems like complete garbage, haha.
>>154182149Jessie is one of the best characters in the franchise. She's a rough and rumble tomboy but it doesn't feel like she's written as a dude. She had emotional nuance and her song made me cry like a bitch.
>>154182274This
>>154182079>it's clear that she is loyal, kind, delicate, sweet, and possesses the characteristics of a true shepherdess, maintaining a calm and peaceful atmosphereOne of the reasons she was cut from the third movie was because they didn't know what Andy could say when saying goodbye to the toys. You kind of gave them a reason for what Andy could have said.
>>154182388Bo was his sister's toy anyways. It's not like she had to go away. He could just have a quite nod to when he remembered playing with her as a kid. Maybe tell said imouto to take care of her.
>>154182591Yes, there were several ways they could use her in another movie. I think she could be like a sort of "mother" to lost toys or something like that. It seems like there would be a romantic movie with her and Woody But I think it was Molly who let Andy's mom give her away anyway; she didn't want her anymore, nor the Barbies.
>>154182388The reason isn't because she's made of porcelain, and logically wouldn't survive?
>>154182910Yes, but they said they didn't know how she could fit into the story, that Andy and Molly didn't want her anyway. Bo wasn't a toy, but an accessory on a lamp.
>>154174542Her side profile on the bottom right reminds me of vintage Disney. Looks like Cinderella or Katrina Van Tassel from Ichabod & Mr. Toad.
>>154182266I watched Toy Story 4 last Sunday on The Wonderful World of Disney. It just isn't very fun or appealing compared to the first 3. Yes, I was bored at parts and looked at my computer screen while watching it.
>>154183038This movie sucks
>>154181744It's impressive that the author can rant for that time, he seems to care about the franchise enough as to pinpoint every single flaw in, pretty much, every shot of the movie.On the level of YMS' Lion King 2019 review imo.
>>154181744I've seen that one (well parts, its a long ass video). Dude is extremely autistic but I will say his nitpicks are valid. Those aren't the kind of mistakes you'd see in something like Toy Story 2.
>>154179642Forgive me for potentially defending this shit, but I've only seen this movie once and it was back when it was in theaters: Did Buzz actually think he was flying, or was he trying to intentionally "fall with style"?
>>154182388>One of the reasons she was cut from the third movie was because they didn't know what Andy could say when saying goodbye to the toys.I remember hearing this as well, and always thought it was a lame reason. As soon as I read this I thought up something along the lines of "Shepherdess Bo Peep always takes good care of her flock. She may get in trouble sometimes, but she always knows her true love Sheriff Woody will come to her rescue." I mean, hell, all he says about the Potato Heads is basically "These are the Potato Heads. Don't separate them." All he says about the Little Green Men are "These are from Pizza Planet." If they couldn't think of anything to say about Bo Peep, they didn't try.
>>154187026Well, he jumped from extremely high places and even missed his jump to hit a roller coaster, which conveniently caused him to crash into several inflatable toys instead of crashing to the ground.
>>154187077Yes, that's a pretty lame reason, especially considering you mentioned that Andy didn't say much about the toys and it was sometimes genetic, like with Slinky, he simply said he's a loyal dog or something like that. What you said would work well, especially since Bonnie is a girl. The real reason I understand is the same reason they removed her from the rescue missions in the first movies: her fragile body. But then we have the pig, and judging by the sound the coins make when interacting with its body material, it doesn't seem like rubber... so what? They also say she was removed because neither Andy nor Molly wanted her anymore and that she was never a toy, but let me remind you that the pig isn't a toy either, and Bo appears in Toy Story 3.
>>154187907>>154187077How would she survive with those schizophrenic children? The reason I think they could use her in the movies is if, like Woody, she were an old and valuable family doll, so they wouldn't just want to donate her like that but put her in the attic. But what about in a daycare?
The coolest thing about her being in the third movie would be how the dynamic could be. She would probably support Woody and be the only one to side with him, or at least understand him, and I think she would complement Woody and his arguments to convince the toys. Remember that apparently she believed that Woody didn't want to throw Buzz out the window on purpose.
>>154188022After the clash of biases and opinions at Sunnyside, Woody decided to leave. Bo Peep (looking out the high window): >I'll go with you, Woody. If Andy is your destiny, it's mine too. We'll figure it out. Woody (looking at her, surprised and emotional, but quickly changing his expression) replies: >Bo... you know you can't. Look at that window, or the height of those ventilation ducts. To get out of here, I'd have to climb, jump... if you fell from up there... I wouldn't even want to imagine. Bo Peep (interrupting, with a sad smile, touching her own porcelain arm): >I know... One wrong step and I'd be a thousand pieces on the patio floor. I'd be burden for you, I wouldn't be able to keep up with your pace. She says ironically. Woody (holding her hands gently) replies: >No... You would never be a burden. But I can't lose you, Bo. I'd rather know you're whole in here, even if you're far from me, than see you break trying to follow me. Bo Peep (adjusting his hat, his eyes shining): >Then go Woody, and when Andy's at college, find a way to come back and get your flock :^) Then they would kiss one last time and Woody would leave.
>>154188068>How to humiliate the entire cuck story 4 movie with a simple fanfic.
>>154188475Thanks
>>154187935>How would she survive with those schizophrenic children? ... But what about in a daycare?The same way Hamm survived. Like >>154187907 said, the way coins bounce around inside him, he sounds like a normal ceramic piggy bank.
>>154189018So it was just their laziness.
Will the fifth movie be worse?
>>154189919We already know exactly what the fifth film will be like the recently released booklet proves it, and the film is terrible. It might be less ideologically driven than the fourth, but it's equally bad in terms of script.
>>154190341We have reviews of the film and they said the film is "exciting". Because of the ending where the character DEI Blaze ends up with Jessie and she separates from the group.
>>154190910Wait, are they going to recycle that formula again of a beloved character abandoning the group for a petty and retarded reason?
>>154191591That's what the book and the leaks suggest.
>>154174560>>154174542
The thing that annoys me most about Bo Peep changing outfits, whether it's >>154191759 or her design in the movie, is that I would've assumed her original skirt and bonnet and everything would've been part of her, not actual clothes she could take off and change. She was a ceramic lamp, not a Barbie doll. Hell, I wouldn't even be 100% sure she'd have legs under her skirt.
>>154185013>It's impressive that the author can rant for that time,No. It's not. Needing to take this long to get your point across is a sign that he lacks planning. He lacks cleverness. There's a reason there's expressions like "Brevity is the soul of wit." and "If I had more time I would have written you a shorter letter."
>>154181744He also did a love letter to Toy Story 3 that is also 6 hours where he also does a dig towards YMS’ “TS3’s plot is TS2” argument while also praising his Lion King Kimba video.
>>154192092True. Although I like the idea of the scrapped film, exactly how she would change dresses should be explained.
>>154191759One of the official reasons this version didn't materialize was the concern that, if they focused too much on the romantic aspect, the film would seem more like a children's movie than a Toy Story film. But it seems that an idea emerged years before the 2019 release to center the film on Woody and give him a deep conflict.
>>154192569You're not lying, but even if Lasseter had never left the director's chair and if the film hadn't had its original release date changed from 2017 to 2018, this version that was being produced between 2014 and 2016 would have been released anyway. Lasseter's departure wasn't the only reason this version wasn't finished; there were also reasons of "philosophical" divergence, if you understand me. Pixar today is guided by far-left people, and they found the film misogynistic, but yes, perhaps the film was primarily a romantic drama and not very similar to Toy Story. Or they could have treated it as a spin-off or something like that
>>154189919I'm guessing it will be bad, but a little bit better than TS4. LillyPad looks like a better character than Gabby Gabby, Motorcycle Guy, and Rabbit and duck plushies. There is actually a LillyPad toy from Leap Frog. Lillypad is a clear antagonist trickster character. There really is no clear moral message of TS4, but I'm guessing there will be a moral message of TS5 about not being addicted to screens.
>>154192569You're not lying, but even if Lasseter had never left the director's chair and if the film hadn't had its original release date changed from 2017 to 2018, this version that was being produced between 2014 and 2016 would have been released anyway. Lasseter's departure wasn't the only reason this version wasn't finished; there were also reasons of "philosophical" divergence, if you understand me. Pixar today is guided by far-left people, and they found the film misogynistic, but yes, perhaps the film was primarily a romantic drama and not very similar to Toy Story. Or they could have treated it as a spin-off or something like that.
>>154192704See>>154190341we already know the whole story of the fifth movie. There were like 7 topics about it last month The ending will literally be a copy made with TS4's butt Jessie will leave the group. Sooo sad brooo The truth is that the decline started in TS3. TS has always been a series of films with that 90s humor. Toy Story 3 came out very late and sometimes it seems like a different movie. Is it bad? No. It's such a sexy movie that I have a "sticky" poster in my room, but it's quite out of place. TS4 is, I don't know... boring. As he said>>154182266 the movie is a bore from beginning to end. The message is that even if you're a manipulative jerk, if your story is sad, you MUST be forgiven.
>>154192722I don't understand something. Was this film in an advanced stage or not? Did it already have computer-generated scenes or was it just story board?>>154192788>No. It's such a sexy movie that I have a "sticky" poster in my room??????
>>154192860You won't want to know what I did with that poster Pro tip: my parents almost got divorced
>>154192897Wtf anon
>>154174176So wait. What does Toy Story have in part 4? Something to do with new toy?
>>154196220Feminism and retconning
