Is Ken Jennings, multi winning champion of Jeopardy!, correct about Tom and Jerry?
One episode that I always found very strange was the one where Tom's owner is playing with him like a baby, putting him in a diaper and such, and he enjoys being pampered, but some of the other neighborhood cat's see this and they spend the entire episode beating the fuck out of him.
>>154179325He's right.
>>154179325abso fuckin lutely
>>154179325404 no lies found
>>154179325>if I agree with clever man, people will think me clever tooOf course not!>d'oh
I agree with all but the last one.
>>154179325If that was the case then Tom and Jerry would've been obscure and forgotten a long time ago. Even the old cartoons aimed for variety because having them chase each other around in a house got old back then.
>>154179325It's a slapstick cartoon there's not point in being restrictive if the jokes are good.>>154179388That's just daily life for ABDLs lol
>>154179433alright look they can be in french revolution times but only if they're stabbing creepy guys in the asshole during bathtime to avenge a wrong, or, waving letter openers at the National Convention
>>154179325And that's why, even though the animation was great, it was fucking boring. It's made for TikTok because a full episode is annoying
>>154179325In the very first episode they chased around the living room and not the kitchen, had a supporting cast in Mammy, and they've never been in the French Revolution Times.Who is this blithering retar->BluskyAhh okay, I can ignore this completely.
>>154179325ITS THE TOM AND JERRY KIDS COME ON IN WHERE ALL THE ACTION IS
>>154179790>they've never been in the French Revolution TimesThe whole Mousketeer quadrilogy. Hell, the first one ends with Tom getting the guillotine for failing to stop the mice and they just shrug it off.
>>154179325supporting cast like the dog, the duck, and the nephew or supporting cast like humans and random one off alley cats?
>>154179852>The whole Mousketeer quadrilogy.Not French Revolution Times.It's a parody of the Three Musketeers which is set 165 years before the French revolution.
>>154179903God, pedantry is so sexy. Can you say that again, but start with 'Um, actually,' because I really wanna bust a nut, here.
>>154179933That's not pedantry, it's like saying the current ongoing war in Iran takes place during the US civil war.
>>154179518No, fag
>>154179933>>154179967You two should get a room.
>>154179325>They should not be in French Revolution times.pauvre, pauvre Ken Jennings
>>154179325Disagree on the last point. One of the best thing these kinds of episodic slapstick cartoons had going for them was being able to drop characters in wherever and whenever - ensured there was endless joke fodder
>>154179388Why?
>>154179518Gr8 b8 you got here, faggot
>>154179325Making Tom & Jerry friends was an attempt to break the status quo because the traditional formula had been done to death at that point. It's more a biproduct of something that should've stayed in it's era but keeps going because nostalgia sells. Hanna-Barbera loves to run shit into the ground. Looking at you, Scooby-Doo.
>>154179903>165 years before the French revolution.no it isn't, it's set between 164 and 161 years before the the French revolution
>>154179325En Garde Pussycat
>>154180875I used roughly the middle of the French revolution, and rounded to the nearest 5, since I felt it was long enough period to not just count the starting years as the whole thing, but you're correct about that being in comparison to the actual starting year.
It's fine to just say your cutoff point is just the first 67 cartoons through 1951, that's 11 years of cartoons.
>>154179325>they should not be friendsI mean, them being friendly is a natural consequence. If you fight the same guy day in and day out for almost 100 years, you're gonna gain a certain level of respect for him eventually.That said, Trebek's protege is right about one thing: plugging them into different time periods was kind of dumb. It's not like Yosemite Sam where his cowboy schtick gives a funny contrast with being a Roman Legionnaire. Tom and Jerry can't talk, and have the same goal in almost every episode, so trying to make them adapt to different settings is kinda pointless.
Of course not. The Cat Concerto is widely considered the best Tom and Jerry episode ever made. It won an Academy Award. It's discussed as one of the greatest pieces of theatrical animation and music of all time. And that did not take place in a kitchen. And no tertiary characters? FOHWTBSSpike was the ultimate equalizer. He gave Jerry a safe zone and forced Tom to become a stealth operator. The comedy shifted from pure slapstick to suspense—watching Tom try to snatch Jerry while carefully moving an asleep Spike's lip or tail was peak tension. The little kid mouse added a layer of protective paternal instinct to Jerry, and heightened the stakes because he was completely oblivious to the danger.Butch (the alley cat) and the gang introduced romantic and economic competition for Tom. Suddenly, Tom wasn't just a predator; he was a desperate, insecure guy trying to look rich to impress a girl or defend his turf.And of course, Mammy Twoshoes. You need Mammy Twoshoes.And besides, every episode of classic T&J is fantastic. T&J kids? That can go suck a dozen shits. The movies? Awful. But every classic short is entertaining as all fuck.Ken Jennings and his magic underwear can fuck right off with his shit opinions.
>>154179388toms friends are usually alley cats/strays and are supposed to be hardened tough guys, while tom, though he hangs with them, is soft and pampered by comparison. especially compared to butch.
>>154180870Usually they're friends so they can become enemies or have to work together against a common threat. Or it's a Mexican standoff with Spike.
>>154179325>Doesn't like Spike or NibblesFiltered
>>154180955i mean even with floaty dates the french revolution basically goes on for like 80 years in various forms
what the hell is the last bit alluding to
>>154179325I agree with him up to the french revolution bit, as I'm guessing he's referring to that one where Tom is beheadedthose kind of eps were pretty great, I love the idea of interjecting tom and jerry into other settings with the same premise of cat chase mouse
>>154179325Counterpoint:
>>154179325>out go spike and nibbles>out go half the classic shorts where they leave the house>out goes "don't you believe it" as well as every other gag that involves Tom or Jerry talking>out go most of the shorts from 1955-1957Actual windowlicker take.
>>154181365It does allow for different period appropriate gags and slaptick.
>>154179325He's right about them not being friends, but wrong about everything else. Seeing those dick-heads getting other people involved across space and time in their bullshit is great.
>>154179325He’s wrong about the french revolution part
>>154179325High-concept takes on simple comedy can be funny. It's about the jokes and the timing that sell it, not the furnishings.
>>154179325Dumb. Tom and Jerry had episodes where they were musketeers or something and any cartoon need a little bit of a supporting cast to make things more interesting (ie:Spike or Tom's owner)
>>154179325>They should not be friendsTrue>They should not have a supporting castFalse, the supporting cast are necessary in order to add variation to the jokes, and many famous jokes of the original series are the ones involving the supporting cast>They should not be in French Revolution timesAlso false, the series' main strength is that each short can be set whenever and whereever and people will still buy it and perfectly understand what is happening, because the formula of the show is easy to understand
I agree with most of it but not the last two. Tom and Jerry had a supporting cast even in classic cartoons, same for being in a variety of settings.
>>154179325>I am a strict "shut up and dribble" guy about exactly one subject: SPACE JAM. C'MON and SLAM and WELCOME to the JAM. C'MON and SLAM AND WELCOME TO THE SPAAAACE JAM. ALRIGHT.I see. Ken has mastered the teachings of Barkley....what is
>>154179325Yes, Yes i want this and i agree with this.
>>154179325I disagree, hot take but I find Wile E Coyote stuff repetitive because they always stuck to the same location and scenario. Tom and Jerry work because they can be anywhere, a castle, a bowling alley, in outer space, as long as they’re fighting and there are props that can be used for slapstick gags they’ll remain fresh(er) for longer.
>>154179325How DARE Hanna/Barbera experiment with story and format!!! They should make the same cartoon OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN!!!I'm Ken Jennings and I'm clearly smarter than everyone.
