Making fun of the "realistic depiction of a panic attack trope" never sat right with me. It feels like a fundamentally fascistic mindset to deny the ability to express human vulnerability in artwork.
>>154192688>the ability to express human vulnerabilityIf you really have this, then you can explore emotions in other ways that are not sterile and repetitive.
>>154192688How about you grow up a bit?
>>154192688People liked it for Puss in Boots.People don’t like it when it’s the only thing they are able to do
>>154192779>How about you grow up a bit?You're part of the manchildren that can't stand cartoon character showing emotions outside of stock tropes.
>>154192790realistic panic attack is now a stock trope
>>154192688>>154192790I vado to, sorry not sorry
>>154192807>NowAnime, manga and cartoons have been doing this for decades.
>>154192688>>154192807>>154192822I don’t find the modern ones really “realistic”. It would be more interesting if it was subtle. Pupils dilating, the body barely being able to stand, uneven breathing, lifeless responses that kind of stuff.
>>154192821>>154192822
>>154192688>It feels like a fundamentally fascistic mindset to deny the ability to express human vulnerability in artwork.I think the problem is how repetitive and therefore almost artificial it has become.It's like it's not something genuine, like people are only writing it because they know it is a success with the teen-adult audiences, so they 'force' it in the narrative.In a way, it's almost like the shows who keep doing it are the ones making fun of it.However, I don't think that's a very fair assumption to make. In the end, people will and should write about what they want.You don't have to watch everything, it's nice to have options, and to see different characters and different stories about a similar but relatable situation.So in short, I think it's a bit saturated, but that's alright.
>>154192688Nothing wrong with emotional vulnerability in pop fiction, the problem with "le realistic panic attack" is that it hardly resembles a real panic attack and is informed more by the memory of the experience and/or by other fictional exaggerated depictions.There's also the issue with how it's trying to normalize the anxiousness epidemic that Gen Z and Gen Alpha is struggling with thanks to unlimited screentime fucking up emotional development and the ability to handle stress. Nothing about this is "normal". It's one thing to feel anxious, it's another to dwell within it or fixate on it.It's also kinda sleazy that it's almost always in media aimed at children, too. Children should see the ideal rather than be reminded of the shitty stuff they can't change or don't really understand.
Issue is what "realistic" means here. If it means not using the medium to the fullest extent to communicate to the audience the very things a person in RL can't communicate while in the midst of an attack, that's sad.
The larger joke was that people were acting like Puss In Boots was somehow super revolutionary for the whole panic attack and it was one of the big moments where people realized the "animation is cinema" crowd genuinely hadn't watched much else since realistic panic attacks had been a thing in movies since the 1940s, especially in thrillers, war films, dramas. Not even like, slice of life films, but even action packed gritty war films, crime noires, and horror films with psychological elements. It was a moment of "these people can't watch anything without fantastic powers and pretty colors so they think this basic ass thing is revolutionary."It was also like, part of their "realistic portrayal" involved a conveniently placed emotional support animal for someone without diagnosis, while a lot of what they'd consider "problematic" is built around the realism of people not exactly being trained on what to do or not being prepared for such a situation.
>>154192688Yeah, I agree.To be honest I feel the same way about people who flatten Steven Universe into being about crying and singing and just ignoring that Steven did have a backbone, stood up for himself, and even lost his temper once in a while.
I like the realistic depiction of a panic attack trope mostly because I get a hard on from the audio of girls hyperventilating and quietly crying.
>>154192953You have to be really fucking careful. Everyone points to Sesame Street and Mr.Rogers handling complex topics like this but they almost always had entire boards of experts on just how to do it.Look at Mr. Hooper, you break that scene down and it's literally structured identically to how a parent would tell a child about a death.
>>154192964Keyword, once
>>154192907>>154192987>There's also the issue with how it's trying to normalize the anxiousness epidemic that Gen Z and Gen Alpha is struggling with thanks to unlimited screentime fucking up emotional development and the ability to handle stress. Nothing about this is "normal". It's one thing to feel anxious, it's another to dwell within it or fixate on it.>It's also kinda sleazy that it's almost always in media aimed at children, too. Children should see the ideal rather than be reminded of the shitty stuff they can't change or don't really understand.Oh shut the fuck up. This is just platitudinous word salad slop disguised under the guise of "think of the children!" Children's TV show's like Digimon Tamers even had stuff like this with Impmon and Ruki nearly getting killed by a gun wielding Galgomon. Even the creator said that he intentionally wanted to include these types of things to show children how bad life could get. It's already obnoxious to hate a trope like this, but it's a whole other level of obnoxious to try and make some pretentious moral statement while doing so. Fuck off.
>>154192964Steven Universe has a very different problem that can be summed up like this.He's supposed to be 12. You don't need him running around cursing and stuff but you need to give him like.. some degree of a selfish malicious side. 12 is supposed to be that age where you start questioning that good behavior you were raised to have because your hormones are spiking, your sense of self is more developed, and you feel more need to assert that self.
>>154193010>snaps at Lars in Lars and the Cool Kids >Snaps at Pearl and stands his ground, turns out he's right about Peridot>Gets frustrated at the Gems for making a phoney training course and not trusting him>Gets legitimately angry at Peridot for betraying his trust and only forgives her once she insults Yellow Diamond and tries to make things right>Gets extremely pissed at his dad in FutureSteven is a pretty easygoing, chill, and forgiving guy, but he can and does get pissed off, especially when someone betrays his trust.
>>154193057You would like Steven Universe Future. Steven is just a late bloomer in that regard.
>>154192688>It feels like a fundamentally fascistic mindset to deny the ability to express human vulnerabilityAgree 100%, but you just described how everybody on the internet thinks. Also boomers and adults who still live under their parents and have co-opted their beliefs through a filter of personal frustration.
>>154192780puss worked because he's confident about never having faced death to an arrogant degree. In the beginning he's proud and singing how he's never been touched by a blade. So it's a double edged sword. Death works by filling that gap in his adventure resume, and the panic attack works because Death is so good at what he does (and loves the hunt) which is quite unsettling, but it's also rewarding because you see puss knocked down a few pegs and his character grows through the movie which people enjoy seeing someone get back on their feet. He regains the trust of Kitty and becomes more accepting of Perro. It's incomparable to other character anxiety moments because it's a core aspect he's literally never experienced before. all the drinking and partying was just covering up the scared kitty that he was, and instead of crying and whining about it he ends up manning up and facing his fears confidently even at the risk of losing his life. It's bold and complimented narratively by every other character around him
>>154193094I saw Future and he definitely was kinda in line with that there.I think it's really the pilot that gets it down when he and Lars start trading those jabs with each other. The way he starts going harder based on the validation he gets from Sadie laughing is sorta what I mean.Anyone whose ever taught at a middle school or worked with middle schoolers will tell you, they are cruel little shits because they've both developed a desire to assert themselves but haven't really learned when things are going too far.
/co/ is full of sad faggots holy shit lmao
>>154193219is that why you're here? because you're a sad faggot?
>>154192688>It feels like a fundamentally fascistic mindset to deny the ability to express human vulnerability in artwork.It is also a fundamentally fascistic mindset to deny the ability to express amusement, contempt or boredom in response to artwork.
>>154193319There's been this massive movement online where people fundamentally reject tropes based on their very existence instead of wanting them to be written well. This mostly stems from the GOT ending sucking.
>>154193352Yeah, I also felt that
>>154192688I just don't like that it became a whole thing after Puss in Boots. Seemed more like they were all ripping it off than making a legit character moment.
>>154193352It is irrational, but audience trust is an exhaustible resource.
>>154193219They don't call it /co/mbler for nothing
>>154192688then call me Il Duce
>>154192688Ah yes, one of the core tenets of fascism. No panic attacks in media.
>>154193751Denial of human vulnerability in artwork usually tends to be fascistic yeah.
>>154192790All adults who watch cartoons are manchildren
>>154193404The thing is mental health issues as a concept have become trendy and over romanticized within our culture.One thing I've noticed is the whole conversation is weirdly fucking selfish.>I wanna stay inside because of my anxiety>You have to deal with your avoidant attachment (something defined by anxiety)Anything actually like, diagnosable beyond GAD, ADHD, mild autism, and depression? That's more so being used as a cudgel than anything.That's why all the depictions have to be so fucking wholesome, because god forbid you offend the self-diagnosed tiktok girl with realistically "toxic" traits.
>>154193794You are the manchild
>>154193773Please, grow a pair
i love the panic attack and therapy speak fetish era we are in really cool
>>154194030Sarcasm is good
>>154194054im not being sarcastic, writers literally have a fetish like fixation on it and everyone tries to put it in their media now its exactly like those comment chains when someone mentions "uncanny valley" then literally every post after that parrots it cause it makes them sound deep.
>>154193906For... saying that people should be allowed to show human vulnerability in artwork?
>>154192688>a fundamentally fascistic mindsetshut the fuck up and go back to making 2 hour long video essays on how problematic hazbin hotel is, you pretentious asswipepeople make fun of this shit because it comes across as "im so deep for making a character break down mentally instead of having a literal battle! aren't we so subversive and in the know of the human psyche?" fuck off
>>154192688It's because it's always a panic attack over some gay bullshit.Like I get it, panic disorders do in fact make you have them over gay bullshit, but it's unpleasant for people who experience them and uninteresting in media.Puss in Boots got praise for it because his panic attack was over literal, actual death (straight up) manifesting before him.>I'm not going to win the big game!>I'm turning into (already am) Pomni!These are cringe.Hell are we forgetting one of the most critically acclaimed TV shows of all time is framed with a man going to therapy about his panic attacks? It can be done well.
>>154194241There's no way in hell Disney ever would have allowed it, but I'm a firm believer the panic attack in Inside Out 2 should have started spiralling into suicide ideation. "I'm not good enough" spiralling to "I hate myself, I messed everything up for nothing" spiralling to "Everyone would be better off without me".
>>154194241Pomni gets over being TF'd into a cartoon jester after about three days which is alluded to be some kind of speed record in-universe.
>>154194473Yeah, that I actually found kinda interesting. Pomni feels totally overwhelmed and appears pathetic, then later we find out she's actually pretty damn resilient because she was up and walking around in days rather than spending weeks in a fetal position and existential crisis.
>>154194101No, for being you
>>154192688>Making fun of the "realistic depiction of a panic attack trope" never sat right with me.Because people with actual issues know for a fact that doesn't get you empathy, that opens you up to being taken advantage of. Same thing as the representation and neurodivergent bullshit. You can use as much doublespeak as you want to make it sound less like a problem, but try finding a job with that shit. You'll be lucky to bag groceries. I didn't get my Masters by embracing my autism. I got it by identifying the things that made me autistic and suppressing the shit out of it.>It feels like a fundamentally fascistic mindsetThere it is, using that word and not understanding what it means.
>>154194707Literally none of that refuted anything I put in the OP.>Using that word not understanding what it meansNo, I think it's pretty apt.
>>154192907>It's also kinda sleazy that it's almost always in media aimed at children, too.I think this is a situation where you're noticing it more in children's media because you're on a board dedicated to children's media. Panic attacks are still portrayed in media aimed at adults. Breaking Bad had a famous one back in 2008; they're hardly a new thing.
I never had a panic attack, sounds fake. and I owe like 20k in taxes still. Am I worried? yeah? Am I gonna start wheezing and reeeing? No. I am just gonna play diablo 2.
>>154192688Oh my god this is hilarious
>>154195936You sound fake
Go back
>>154192688Puss in Boots 2 did this Way better than any of you faggots.>>154193128Exactly, this not well done in the least.
>>154195960you scared
>>154192780Puss in Boots worked its ass off to earn that moment down to having the goofy sidekick dog set up that he wanted to be a therapy animal. Nothing else has come close to it and I don't know why people ignore everything the movie built up to in order to earn that scene and think you can just skip right to it and still have the same impact.
>>154197316yeah
>>154192780>>154195971>>154197316The funny thing is that none of these do the realism part of the panic attack right.Puss in Boots 2 did it right, the guy didn't fucking cry and go "ABLOOBLOO THINGS SO HARD", he literally was scared out of his mind, could not think and was paralyzed with fear.Panic attack =/= being sad and crying.
>>154195350Ok retard lmao
>>154192769Charlie literally never had a panic attack. I don't think Aika did either.
>>154193274Not as much as you apparently
>>154197316>Nothing else has come close to itI can think of some anime that did it really good or even better.
>>154198674The Puss in Boots one was inspired by the time Antonio Banderas had a heart attack
>>154198674Yeah, as someone that has a panic disorder presumably from childhood abuse you genuinely don't have the processing capacity to wax philosophical about your emotions.
>>154192688Where is this panic attack epidemic /co/ keeps sperging about? Most examples are either made up or not panic attacks like when Mario was scared of Bowser for 5 seconds.
>>154199010
>>154194707There is a difference between accepting your disability/illness, getting help, and working on it to live a better life, and making it your personality and being helpless about it while burning bridges and making other people suffer. You shouldn't just ignore it, pretend it doesn't exist, and feel shame over it, but you also sure as hell shouldn't do nothing about it and expect people to accommodate you wherever you go instead of at least try to be a functional, respectful adult despite your limitations.
>>154198674Personally I'm wanting more depictions of mental breaks where people just get violent/do something in response to call of the void.Also in response to >>154199155 I think it is actually a confluence of two things, which is a lot of irony poisoning in animation and still trying to tug at the audience's heartstrings/feelings (or still validating the characters and hence meta narratively the artist). So many projects have a nihilistic or at least a boringly absurdist outlook that somehow doesn't permeate to how the characters are made. Somehow the characters can perceive their and other's emotions enough t> "ABLOOBLOO THINGS SO HARD"and it's treated as poignant, but the setting at large is either deeply pessimistic, or I guess I could say incompetent, that it invites a disconnect to the viewer.Or maybe it's like assuming every old 2d animated movie has the child protagonist be an orphan because that's how the writer/storyteller can pull a heart string/get pathos; now it's just situated in a post modern setting where it's (usually boring/annoying) depictions of a mental health episode to squeeze pathos from an audience looking (and sometimes making up) tropes and meta knowledge.
>>154199167Panic disorders aren't suicidal you just suddenly feel like a cornered animal.
>>154192688>fascisticyou were almost there but you completely gave it away here
What cartoons portray emotions realistically in various ways without “muh panic attack”?I can only think of Primal.
>>154192688>fascisticWhat the fuck does that mean?No seriously in this context it just means people I don't like I forcefully lumped together, but what about it makes it related to the actual political ideology?You could just call it gay and lame, or fruity or vene buttery or retarded but you choose such a damn loaded buzzword I don't even know what to think but feel you want to discuss politics more than the actual reason why people don't like the trope.
>>154194707I feel this. When people hear I have autism before they meet me they assume I’m as competent as a child. One of the most frustrating things in the world is when people talk down to me like I don’t understand what words mean unless it’s explained at a five year old level. Thats why I never tell people unless they’ve known me for a while. Even as a kid I HATED being called special or being treated differently than the other kids, good or bad.>>154199403I agree with this fully. Mental health isn’t your fault, but it is your responsibility. You sometimes need to suppress your autism in public because that shit is weird to normies, but it’s not really about suppression but more about management and right place right time things.
>>154192688The retards that use this board would fall for a Looney Tunes fake wall gag
>>154192688I have been diagnosed with actual anxiety and I will say right now you’re a faggot and people should be made fun of for that because you’re a spaz that doesn’t know how to control yourself and you look retarded. I don’t need to see some retard hyperventilating on screen to know they’re in a stressful situation especially when the average person doesn’t experience this shit and it’s just the writer putting in their mental bullshit because they think it’s relatable and kooky to cope with the fact they know their is something wrong with them but don’t want to do anything about it. In short, stop being a pussy.
>>154198979Nothing scares more than suffering something like that.Just imagine it is nightmarish.
>>154193057>some degree of a selfish malicious side.How about a selfish good side?Oh wait that would imply we DON'T live in a world where self-loathing is the standard.
>>154192688you’d do numbers on twitter
>>154198674I’ve had many panic attacks before, the worst ones are absolutely horrible, you start feeling like nothing’s right like ill and then eventually you feel your whole body go cold and you start thinking you’re gonna die at any moment. Followed by extreme thirst and then your body’s circulation takes control and causes you violent involuntary shaking as a means to calm you down.
>>154193855It's a worldview informed by media that pretends it's not media. Fake behaviors and perspectives from performers on stages that don't advertise themselves as such. An entire generation has grown up blindsided thinking that it's all reflective of real character and not marketing gimmicks.The thing they want you to do doesn't have anything to do with your life or your emotions - their definition of mental health is to imitate internet personalities in your daily life. This is what happens when cult conditioning goes unchecked for decades on end.
>>154192688The problem is that they're repetitive. And it shows that there's a "fascistic" idea of what quality art is. It's all late millenials worshipping that scene from EoE.
>>154192769There's no realistic panic attack scene in the Gameoverse pilot.
>>154201314Hmm, yeah. Crying and punching the ground doesn't count. Those aren't the symptoms of a panic attack. Even if you don't like it. Even if it's objectively badly done, ordinary theatrical despair is excluded or else we're talking about a hypothetical broader trend here.
>>154192688
>>154201518I mean, it's kind of justified in her case; I mean, she lost her world and her people, and she keeps failing to save the worlds she visits.All of them are inevitably destroyed, and she can't do anything about it meanwhile the villains win everytime.
>>154200282I've been diagnosed with actual anxiety too and I don't use that as an excuse to try and censor artwork on the basis that I already experience it myself. Stop being fucking retarded.
i suffered a panic attack once and it's pretty realistic
>>154201898Lol
>>154192964nice bait
>>154197316Up untill that point I thought of Perrito as just the annoying sidekick and expected him to make a shitty joke to take the tension away. This scene made me like the dog and showed that the movie can handle dramatic topics like fear of death while still being a fun kids movie.
Here is a bad example of a Panic Attack (tm) in media.Going all artsy fartsy with psychedelic special effects that last way too long as a poor way of trying to show the audience the pain the MC is going through. It's way too over the top and hard to take serious.Puss in Boots is very straightforward. Puss is paralyzed with fear and Perrito helps to calm him down like a proper therapy dog. Simple and effective. That's why it got so much praise.
>>154198769>No argument
I really wish that shitty sequel was never made
bump
>>154192688Humans shouldn't be vulnerable. They should be strong and cold and ruthless.
>>154202370Fucking Rebecca Sugar style
>>154203283Puss in boots 2 was kino, unlike your tranny shit.
>>154203972No, faggot
>>154204799>My tranny shit was better
>>154205155Is not
>>154199155What the ever loving fuck is this thread anyway? It's like OP hit random on TV Tropes and decided to made a thread demonizing the trope the random selector pulled out. Retards around here will complain and overanalyze anything.I refuse to believe this thread is made in good faith
>>154205215is too
>>154205398Oh my god I am so sick of Expressive Shirts in cartoons. It's all you ever see nowadays. When will this psyop die down?https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ExpressiveShirt
>>154205473No, stop sneeding
>>154205494This is inherently fascistic and autistic like they have to show the shirt making over the tropes expression because cartoon viewers are autistic manchildrend who need over the top facial expression to understand things.Am I doing it right?
>>154201139Ok?
>>154201633And yeah, that's not a panic attack, fuck.
Bump
>>154192688I thought people here said they hated "irony poisoning" and wanted more "sincerity" in meda? Why doesn't this count as "sincerity", then? People are sensitive faggots in real life, sincerely.
>>154207342As far as 4chan is concerned,people have no real convictions here besides empty teenage contrarianism
>>154207342Self-diagnosed panic attacks aren't sincere, these people think anxiety is a super power
The issue with 'le realistic panic attacks in heckin media' isn't that we lack empathy, the issue is that to an average adult with even just a modicum of emotional intelligence, we can tell that these depictions aren't rooted in reality at all. We've seen real human beings with real problems show real emotions in our lives and, and brother, this panic attack shit in cartoons just isn't it.The execution is always hokey and the bottom line is that its just there for vapid melodrama. It's a by-product of privileged middle/upper class writers making simple entertainment for privileged middle/upper class teenagers.Le realistic panic attack is 'shonen protag aura farming' but for females.
>>154208743So people don't sincerely feel anxiety?
>>154209735I've had panic attacks before that somewhat resembled what we see in these shows. The heavy breathing, the inability to contain yourself. All of that. The reality is that real people with real mental problems have panic attacks and other shit going on with them. Those ARE the genuine emotions that you see people with in your life. The irony is that you're attempting to say that this is just privilege, when the real privilege is being unable to see this stuff.
>>154192688The the facist boogeymen have won retard. Enjoy the boot on your face for the rest of eternity.
>>154210727Trust me, your panic attacks are not seen as these cathartic theatrical moments to the people around you.In your own head you may see yourself as a cutesy wutesy little pup that's been wounded, but the reality for everyone else is that its just kinda awkward.
>>154210946Redirecting this reply to >>154210804since you deleted your first attempt at that post >>154210727
Now I know it’s vitiligo, but when I first saw this pic I thought the guy on the left was doing blackface and he started freaking out because the guy who bumped into him rubbed off some of the paint
>>154210946>Trust me, your panic attacks are not seen as these cathartic theatrical moments to the people around you.That literally doesn't refute a single thing I've said. The genuine people that you're talking about are the ones that are having panic attacks and having mental problems in every day life. You're the privileged one.
>>154211042What?
>>154197316>I don't know why people ignore everything the movie built up to in order to earn that sceneA common amateur writing mistake (and fallacy I see with many cartoon fans) is people assuming that just having an element in their story instantly means it’s good or has depth, regardless of whether it is paced well or if it even fits the plot.It’s super common with works that deal with politics; fans will praise something to high heavens if the work pushes an agenda they agree with whether or not it’s told well.
>>154209735If you’ve never seen someone in a panic attack like that that’s your lack of life experience, but the thing people find inauthentic about these scenes is when they’re heavily based on scenes from other media, so if you have only ever seen this in fiction you are somewhat experiencing the problem correctly.
I’m not your gay little caricature, I learned the price of having such a thing. If you worked alone then good job, if you worked in a group, I’m not giving you anything else.
>>154211756
>>154193057can't a kid just be nice?
>>154212412No
>>154192688>fundamentally fascistic mindsetExplain why this isn't a good thing without appealing to emotion or "muh notsees"
>>154192688Blow it out your ass.
>>154192688>realistic depiction of a panic attackThese look nothing like mine.>fundamentally fascisticHail Hitler.>express human vulnerabilityWomen lose respect for you and sociopaths are alerted that you are prey. They deny us expressing vunlerability.>in artworkScrew calling everything art. I'm sick of this.
>>154213395Drawings are a category of art
>>154213395>sociopaths are alerted that you are preyDo you know what sociopath means or are you just repeating what your favorite dramafaggot youtuber said?
>>154212444Not allowing people to make what they want to make is bad. >>154213275Cope
>>154213741>B-b-but I WANNA!Lmao
>>154213741I can cope with you blowing it out your ass.
>>154192688No one actually does this. It's like that breathing into a paper bag thing. It's completely made up.If you look at 30's-50's media they used to at you could suffer a nervous breakdown and think you had become a chicken. It's all nonsense.
>>154213767I don't like these scenes and yet you lost me with this one.
>making fun of something is denying you your right to do iti'm not sure whether you're taking too much medication or you need to be taking more, but get your dope leveled out and get the fuck over yourself
>>154192688>to deny the ability to express human vulnerability in artwork1- I'm not your fucking psychologist.2- You're not as deep as you think.3- Being different doesn't always mean you're special.4- A madman is still a madman and often belongs inside an asylum, instead of promoting bullshit to fuck society over.Now go on, make your stupid art that is just you crying over existence being le ugly.
>>154213842That's usually how not just "cringe is dead" crowd but most people nowadays operate. Nothing can just be "made fun of". Everything has to be twisted into a corrupting force that will erode everything if we don't stomp it into the ground.They then project it on the people that do, in fact, just want to make fun of shit. Because they see someone lightly making fun of something and think "hey they're doing their part in purging the badthingsTM.... but they're doing it with something that we consider good"
>express human vulnerability in artworkThe problem with that is modern art obsesses with only human vulnerability, to a degree that it all warps into some performative obsession. Some narcissist's desperation to romanticize an uneventful childhood by pretending to be traumatized does not translate into worthy art.
>>154215849>glorifying vulnerability >narcissistic Read >>154213585 for further critique
>>154204814Yes. We were always meant to be sadistic monsters.
>>154213926Lmao
>>154197316The entire film builds to that moment from the second Puss is forced to acknowledge his mortality. It's subtly built from minute one, and shit takes place in the last third of the movie.Other films trying to replicate this often skip the build-up and just drop in a panic attack without any setup.
>>154213767To rephrase your own quote:Explain why this isn't a good thing without appealing to emotion or "muh sell fish"
>>154215895The narcissist may indulge in his own self-obsession to the point of glorying even in his greatest flaws. Even setting that aside, there's no shortage of narcissists eager to show off how wonderfully empathetic and virtuous they are with big displays of how they, like, just GET the plights of the less fortunate, man.
>>154192688Leftists push "panic attacks" hard because they are trying to rebrand chimpouts as "mental health crises." If they train viewers to see picrel as "psychological" instead of as a chimpout they have trained them to be vulnerable.
>>154192688I figured it's because it's become a bit of a cliche on account of there being too many of them in toonl short a time span.
>>154215985No, edgesoi
>>154216684Embrace the death drive. Return all to zero.
>>154216740Grow up
>>154216750Humanity craves the end.
>>154216796You want your pacifier?
>>154216801If I'm wrong, then why are there so many stories about the end?
>>154216862Same reason why there are many stories about alternative history
>>154216866Because people despise this world and want it gone.
>>154216879Nobody cares about your self-loathing
>>154192688>When the psychological torture show has characters react to the psychological torture
>>154216930There’s show itself is torture for the viewer
>>154192688>Unironically calling anything that was mean to you in the form of a children's cartoon fascist Yeah I fucking loved the part where The Amazing Digital Circus spent 5 straight minutes endorsing Mussolini's vision of national unity too, bro. We should make fun of more realistic panic attacks in fiction.
>>154216204This sucks.
>>154216151Boys we got Fraiser Crane up in here.
It is the "press x to pet the dog" of animation.
>>154218079And yet it's true! Curious...
>>154216151C’est showbiz
>>154218213>Quoting the "society should be improved somewhat" comicHorseshoe theory is real
>>154209735>Le realistic panic attack is 'shonen protag aura farming' but for females.this post deserves more you's
>>154192910There are severely media stunted manchildren who unironically believe Harry Potter invented "literature discussing class disparity as an actual problem" claiming that before Harry Potter, "rich and poor, with poor being seen as a hardship" was always just a background detail and not exploredOr the infamous one where the manchild claimed that children's cartoons "explored genuine, real issues in meaningful, thoughtprovoking ways" while "adult" media was just "sex, violence, talking, swearing"There's a whole generation of social shutins who would call Cassandra the most revolutionary, never-before-seen "tragic victim of patriarchy" character, the first time anyone has ever had a situation where a woman wasn't believed and everyone actually paid the price, in a fictional piece of writing, if someone decided to make a faux-anime or Pixar adaptation of the Illiad
>>154192790cartoon characters talking about their emotions is lame as fuck by any standard and if you're saying its fascist then everything prior to 2010 is fascist
>>154209735>It's a by-product of privileged middle/upper class writers making simple entertainment for privileged middle/upper class teenagers.This is the bigger problem. Too many writers are upper middle class faggots from urban California.I live in San Bernardino, so I know many of them. I've also done a lot of traveling, like to Dakar just last winter. There's a massive strain of turbo lefty faggot who unironically believes that nonwhite people are just inherently more progressive than heckin white males and would not believe me, a brown Latino, that every single Marxist-Leninist group in West Africa is chudmaxxed to the extreme and would butcher faggots as bourgeoisie, and this is no different in Eastern Europe or the Middle East or southeast Asia, because they can't fathom the idea of nonwhites being chuds except for a tiny few Uncle Toms who don't realize they're voting against their best interests. Ironically these are the biggest white supremacists I've ever met because they unironically believe that every single human being on Earth who isn't a Californian progressive bases their entire worldview, political, social, and economic opinion on sucking up to a dumb white chud from bumfuck AmericaThey can't fathom that nonwhites think women need to go back to the kitchen and spread their legs whenever told because they internalized that only western white man are sexpests and start having "realistic depictions of panic attacks" if you push back against themI mean it tooI was sayin that Senegal had an utterly shity attitude towards women, and this WHITE woman was starting to sputter and freak out and hyperventilate trying to talk over me about why the real problem was shitty white people in America and Europe, when SHE was the one who asked me about Senegal in the first place no lessThese are ironically the most sheltered, bitch-cowardly effete people you'll ever meet. I compare a lot to Versailles aristocrats in overalls polka dot shirts and buzz-cuts
>>154219067>Dude Muh astroturfed, artificial culture war This is so fucking exhausting.
>>154219505You're right, it is exhausting. Maybe you should quit pushing for it so heavily.
