>Has uber-confident cutie pies like Maleficent as options>Deliberately picks the villainess whose age is starting to show insteadProving once again that Redditors have shit taste
>>154202526>Redditors have shit tastehave you seem Miss /co/ results the past few years?
>>154202526Yzma is awesome
>>154202538Why do you care about that shit in the first place?
>>154202526anon not all popularity contests are about who you want to fuck, Yzma is great villain now stop being retarded
>>154202538...such as?
>>154202557It's genuinely funny watching anons seethe that their waifu lost an internet popularity contest.
>>154202526>noooo they were supposed to pick a boring one who I want to fuck
>>154202526Nope, your opinion is just shitYzma is PEAK
>>154202526Is OP intentionally trying to make reddit look based?
>>154202591If proximity to an uber-confident cutie pie weren't in the eyes of the average male more exciting than everything else in the world put together, the risk of being a "dead-broke dad" would've deterred teenage boys from boning their girlfriends by now.
>>154202628Nice confession
>>154202588While the Internet has never been a bastion of honesty, the outside world isn't necessarily better on the matter of looks.They call Meghan McCain ugly, yet call the local fish and chips waitress hot for looking a lot like Meghan McCain.They call Megyn Kelly ugly, until they want an excuse to attack her for racy photoshoots in which case they accuse her of misusing her beauty.They call Michelle Obama butch (ok, apart from Obama supporters and Penn Jillette; and Penn is uniquely honest) for having not quite as soft-looking a body as Super Pochaco's, yet it's not like Urbosa's body looks quite so soft either and I don't see as many people complaining.Looks might be the last-stand-on-Earth of "topics the Internet might actually be LESS compulsively dishonest on than the outside world is."So yeah, when we lose that, it might be cause for concern.
>>154202526because she had the voice of sexhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R55prnkZX6s&list=RDR55prnkZX6s&start_radio=1
>>154202712Michael Obama is a man.
>>154202526it's almost as if she's an iconic villain or something
>>154202730[Citation needed.]Also it still doesn't address the other examples.
>>154202754https://youtu.be/atZS2PNi0pU?list=RDatZS2PNi0pU
>>154202588That's why Based Reddit mogs 4chinners every day.They live in your head rent free while they barely think about you outside of the times where you sperg out.The 4chan/Reddit """war""" is hilariously one sided,4chan seethes day after day about Reddit and i barely see any mention of you guys on the front page outisde of the occasional comments expressing pity over you>>154202620Cant make something based if it's already is
>>154202526>Reddit ThreadMany such cases
>>154202765Then go there and stay
>>154202526Yzma is an uber-confident cutie pie
>>154202794I refuse to make any more efforts for that image relating to your gay Internet turf war
>>154202819She is a nervous wreck. She loses her mind every time something goes the slightest bit wrong. Transforming an emperor into a llama who can't prove he used to be the emperor is an ability an ordinary citizen would be envious of.Maleficent just moves on to her next option.As well, a greater portion of Maleficent's confidence is about her looks. Yzma's confidence in even that seems fake if her letting the kids' remarks about her age get to her is anything to go by.To whatever extent it's sincere, it's hubris on her part, and the other characters clearly don't agree with her.
>>154202840She's funnier.
>>154202854Eh, I don't find either funny, but perhaps I've just built up a tolerance mainlining YTPs for my fix of comedy. :/Also, if viewers prioritized "funny" over "cute / sexy / any middle ground between the two" wouldn't Kathy Griffin's comedic value have drawn attention away from Christina Hendricks' seductiveness by now?
>>154202730don't transvestigate you weirdo
>>154202526>thread about a reddit postholy fragile
>>154202662Clearly if 4channers didn't see themselves as exceptions to that generalization, they'd either be watching porn or going to the pub to talk to real life uber confident cutie pies instead of talking about Reddit's Disney villain popularity contests
>>154202526Yzma was the most interesting character out of that selection, and did the most in the course of the story to affect its plot
>>154202811I wouldn't go that far. There *should* be overlap between Redditors and 4channers if only as a continuous social experiment on the similarities and differences between a site where usernames are the norm and one where so much as tripcodes are looked down upon.
>>154202577It's far from the only factor but;A. It's one of many, and...B. It's the canary in the coal mine for more important things. Why would anyone waste animators' time depicting ugly characters? If it's to virtue signal about being non-shallow, why does the audience they're supposedly pander to make cheap shots at the exact same appearance traits in real people?
>>154203270Shut up.
>>154202909It's arguably even worse than transvestigation. At least actual transvestigation tries to LOOK like it's trying to argue a case. Anon just invoked assertions and left it at that.
>>154203270>Why would anyone waste animators' time depicting ugly characters?Shut up, you're going to make me like Smiling Friends out of spite.
>>154204103That's just textbook trolling, anon
>>154204822I notice you conveniently ignored the rest of that paragraph.
>>154203297Ooh, what a convincing counterargument... NOT.
>>154202840Yes, people express all their human traits according to their differences. Yzma’s appeal is in her contradiction and imperfections while the appeal of Maleficent is in her fatally fixated perfection, so you can guess why Yzma’s brand of cuteness and confidence won a popularity contest while as you pointed out Maleficent would probably win a contest in beauty, composure, or perfect expression of confidence.
>>154202604Peak what? Peak Disney? Peak animation? Peak Disney animation?
>>154202723So why associate that voice with a less-pretty face?
>>154206566Why are you autistic?
>>154203042>did the most in the course of the story to affect its plotHow would you measure that? Scar killed a major character and gaslit another into blaming himself, Ursula tricked a lovesick teen into the aquatic equivalent of indentured servitude, Maleficent's death threats against the protagonist provoked royalty into drastic measures against every possible implement she could use and Facilier blended cold reading with literal magic to gaslight actual royalty.
>>154202526Starting?
>>154202526Yzma is funnier than Maleficent.
>>154202585You have a lot to catch up on, anon!https://4tourney.wikitide.org/wiki/4chan_Tournaments_Wiki
>>154203270>Why would anyone waste animators' time depicting ugly characters?Because life is not all sunshine and rainbows, you privileged Mutt.>but I want to escape into my world of perfect beautiful fantasies!Have you considered that people like you repeatedly choosing to escape over and over again is part of why things are as fucked as they are? Maybe if there's enough media depicting the ugly truths of life, people will finally get sick enough to actually revolt.
>>154203000>Implying we don't browse co in between porn sessions.
>>154207669What a waste of a porn session. Why not save it for right before bed so you can get a good night's sleep without making the damn thing sore?
>>154207232Interesting, I'll look into it. Thanks!
>>154207260Depicting ugly fictional characters won't make real people any prettier. You need either makeup, genetic engineering, or a way to pay women to impregnate themselves with sperm of the beautiful ones. The former being the only thing the public has gone for willingly thus far.Also, "ugly realities of life" =/= "ugly individuals." Plenty of shows are rich in pretty characters who are in ugly situations.
>>154207260>Why are you watching movie or listening to music, there are starving childrens in AfricaMiss me with that fallacy of relative privation shit
But Yzma is my waifu and I fucking hate redditors I am so conflicted right now
>>154208504Fuck that I warch tv movies so I can cause children to starve in africa.
>>154202547SPBPhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_hJxBUMuss
>>154202938Nah, just seeing an opportunity to discuss something that otherwise might have come across as being even more out-of-nowhere...
>>154202712>Michael Obama>UrbosaGiga shit taste and literally delusional. You know exactly zero about judging beauty.
>>154209929And yet, somehow, people call the former butch for appearance traits they don't call butch in the latter.And you're now the second person to conveniently ignore the rest of that post.
>>154208251>Depicting ugly fictional characters won't make real people any prettier.No one says it will. But showing the realities of life makes people more aware of what is actually happening around them instead of coddled infantile losers.>>154208504See above. Maybe you can't change it on your own, doesn't mean it shouldn't be talked about just because you hate seeing it in your media.
>>154209985>No one says it will. But showing the realities of life makes people more aware of what is actually happening around them instead of coddled infantile losers.Why? Just because we see pretty characters in fiction doesn't mean we pretend that's all that exists in real life. If we didn't see time dilation in fiction would we pretend it didn't exist in real life?
>>154210085>Why? Just because we see pretty characters in fiction doesn't mean we pretend that's all that exists in real life.The media people watch influences the way their perceive reality. Common stereotypes, expectations, etc. That's a pretty apparent fact of life. Therefore, more nuanced media helps people acquire a more nuanced outlook on reality.
>>154210205>The media people watch influences the way their perceive realityUnfalsifiable, at best. You cannot distinguish "they watch this show because it reflects what they already believe" from "they believe it because they watch this show."Frankly I'd call it worse than unfalsifiable, because one of the best selling movies if you don't adjust for inflation is Avatar, and an alarming number of people were rooting for Colonel Quaritch, a character the movie went out of its way to condemn.
>>154210291>UnfalsifiableYeah and I'm not proposing a scientifc hypothesis, so that's not relevant. It's common sense. Sanitized media that doesn't reflect any part of reality is boring and stunts/coddles people by allowing them to pretend the unpleasant aspects of reality don't exist.>one of the best selling movies if you don't adjust for inflation is Avatar, and an alarming number of people were rooting for Colonel Quaritch, a character the movie went out of its way to condemn.At the very least, this kind of thing causes people to start talking and discussing, making them more aware of the differences between each other and the potential reasons for those differences.Also, people side with him because they didn't make him look lke a loser or a psycho. If Avatar took itself seriously as a work of propaganda, it wouldn't bother making the villain look cool or badass, it would simply depict him as a fat raped cuck or as a raving psycho frothing at the mouth. That would be an easy way to ensure no one ever roots for him if they really needed that. That's how the enemy is usually depicted in actual war-time propaganda, after all.
>>154210562>Yeah and I'm not proposing a scientifc hypothesis, so that's not relevant. It's common sense. Sanitized media that doesn't reflect any part of reality is boring and stunts/coddles people by allowing them to pretend the unpleasant aspects of reality don't exist.The people who are being coddled are the hypocrites who make cheap shots in real life at the same appearance traits they demand be depicted in fiction, not just by hiring ugly actors but by needlessly wasting animators' time depicting them.>Also, people side with him because they didn't make him look lke a loser or a psycho. If Avatar took itself seriously as a work of propaganda, it wouldn't bother making the villain look cool or badass, it would simply depict him as a fat raped cuck or as a raving psycho frothing at the mouth. That would be an easy way to ensure no one ever roots for him if they really needed that. That's how the enemy is usually depicted in actual war-time propaganda, after all.Except in real life evil is often competent, and it's up to the rest of us to either be more competent or compensate in numbers for what we lack in competence.In a world full of unrealistic BS portrayals of the military like Top Gun it's refreshing that Avatar depicted something more accurate about a military officer's methods.
>>154210979>The people who are being coddled are the hypocrites who make cheap shots in real life at the same appearance traits they demand be depicted in fictionYou sound like you have some personal issue with some people who did that, but this isn't very relevant to the principle itself.>not just by hiring ugly actors but by needlessly wasting animators' time depicting them.Narrow-minded assumption that animators want to depict beautiful things only. There are plenty examples of grotesque animation out there. You could probably name a few yourself.
>>154211087>You sound like you have some personal issue with some people who did that, but this isn't very relevant to the principle itself.It is absolutely "relevant to the principle itself" for the "principle itself" is borne of the worldview of such hypocrites.>Narrow-minded assumption that animators want to depict beautiful things only. There are plenty examples of grotesque animation out there. You could probably name a few yourself.Animators who depict what they want to depict are called "hobbyists." For-profit animation depicts whatever will pay the bills. Fans who create demand for ugly shit are therefore wasting animators' time by putting "pays the bills" at cross purposes with "depicts what people who aren't virtue signaling hypocrites want to see."
>>154211204Whay are you autistic?
>>154202526>Scargay>Voodoo mayneracial stereotype>Ursuladrag queen>Maleficentliterally summons the powers of hell>YzmaFunny and wholesome evilnessThe best choice won.
>>154211309>wholesome evilnessIf that's not a contradiction in terms I don't know what is.
>>154211221Objection! Assumes facts not in evidence!
>>154212124Not really we are hard wired to love children
>>154202834Reverse that and that’s me. I never logged into Reddit. It just looks like 4chan with extra steps to me.
>>154212793...what does that have to do with any of this?
>>154207882excuse me what?
>>154213176>>wholesome evilness>If that's not a contradiction in terms I don't know what is.
>>154202526Joke is on you.I like Yzma and would her over MaleficentYzma is hilarious and a charming villainess despite her looks.In fact her look makes more hilarious.
