>>154205280Absolutely fucking not. Easily one of the most valid crashouts I've seen, and even then he remained composed. I remember Superman commending Captain Atom for his dedication, but letting he know full well he needs to stand the fuck down. And after Superman beats his ass, and after coming off his encounter with Hamilton, he still yells at Cadmus scientists to stay the fuck back because "He's Justice League". Dude had the patience of a saint, and interpreted anything less than perfection as "him going off the deep end".
He made a clone of an alien aged her up and used to have a weapon to be used by humans against a bunch of super powered people who saved the planet and major cities and populations for major disaster on a fairly regular basis I'm going to say the entire point of that project was unjustified and children soldiers are not justify even if you call them baby and don't tell people when they're getting killed that they're got interested as soldiers .
Galatea told him she considered him her father and he STILL let her die. He can burn in Hell.
>>154205380 I'm not entirely sure older Supergirl died and also what if he made a second one but not age her up so much so he can have a cute little daughter?
>>154205435That didn't take long
>>154205327>conveniently ignores Justice Lord superman midwit
>>154205460They were literally different people. Also Hamilton stole genetic material for the purposes of creating his own clone daughter. Dude is literally playing god in a lab with Amanda Waller and General Eiling hyping his ass up. He lost the privilege of judging anyone.
>>154205635>They were literally different people.depends who you ask. Same person, different timeline, different life choices. they already knows what would happen if Superman goes nuclear, both in a different timeline and their own, "i was mind controlled" is not going to be a good enough excuse. Also, can't you blame him? we all want a big titty daughter wife.
>>154205280The whole point of the Cadmus arc was to show that ultimate power requires an ultimate check on said power. Superman is Superman, sure, but it's been proven that's entirely on his whim. He could kill all life on the planet in a day if he felt so inclined, and honestly, I wouldn't blame anyone for not simply taking him at his word that he wont go evil again.
>>154205280Hey it could've been worse.
>>154205814More to the point, it showed that Cadmus itself needed a check on its own power, considering not only the multiple disasters they caused in their bid to fight the Justice League such as the Ulti-Men and Doomsday, they basically handed Lex Luthor everything he needed for godhood on a silver platter because they were so fixated on trying to stop Superman and the Justice League that they tunnel-visioned themselves into ignoring the known super criminal. Quote Amanda Waller>"I knew he was a snake, and I still let him bite me"Frankly, they really were lucky they weren't thrown in jail or executed for the insane shit they were doing. The League did need a reality check on how their conduct and attitude needed to be toned down, but Cadmus needed a baker's dozen with how much they screwed up.
>>154205460>>154205754Igrnoring Superman teaming up with Lex to take down the Justice Lords is silly. >muh same personYou are retarded. If you had a twin who is evil, that doesn't also make you evil. >>154205814It's pretty valid to take precautions against Superman after he got pretty far im world domination after being mind controlled by Darkseid. But making a Power Puff Girl by stealing his (weaker) cousins dna is a dumb idea all around.
>>154205460Alt Universe stuff as an excuse is dumb since technically everyone would have a "goes evil and fucks up the world" version.
>>154206021>So what made Alt Superman go evil>Lex becoming president, well we should be safe in that regard at lea>HE WHAT?
>>154206063and then when that Superman was presented with a moment to go evil and kill Lex he didn't as much as he wanted to.
>>154206063Actually it was killing Wally that really did it, and even then when that seemed to have happened with the Braniac thing with Lex even making a snide comment about ending up killing Wally anyway, Superman didn't kill him like Justice Lord Superman did.
>>154205965The only solution is to give every human one Powerpuff girl.This way everyone stands in the same ground
>>154206282Shut up, Dick
>>154205460>oh no! Peace and low crime rates.>you can't chimp out in public.>the mass murdering villains aren't dead but made nice and happyWhy were they bad again?
>>154205460I'm not sure if the Justice Lord Superman incident mattered that much for Hamilton. His initial motivation was in the events that occurred during Superman TAS. Superman almost lost control in the finale episode of that show. Hamilton personally saw back there that an angry Superman would be dangerous for the people around him. Doesn't mean that Hamilton did the right thing. But it's understandable why he did what he did. He was angry and scared, and he no longer trusted Superman. He thought the world needs secret back-up plans in case Superman does end up going rogue some day (whether it's willingly or because of brainwashing).
>>154205280The writers said they wanted it to be "both sides have a point" like the original Marvel Civil War was (supposed to) be.It makes sense with Timm and Dini being obnoxiously self-inserting Batfags that anti-Superman contingencies are "based"While there IS a precedent with Darkseid brainwashing Supes--which was Hamilton's trauma that caused him to decide it was a good idea, there is also the fucked up shit like betraying Superman and Supergirl's trust and stealing the latter's DNA to create an (aged up) child soldier completely indoctrinated to be Cadmus' puppet (which is all kinds of fucked morally / ethically) and what villains like Lex Luthor did to create Superboy.
>>154207724The child soldier thing was just pure evil especially with the child soldier calling her creator her father.
>>154206080His eyes went red. Thats like pointing a gun at the president and being surprise pika chu when you get taken out.
>>154205380Galatea was the name of the statue woman in the Pygmalion myth
>This guy who saves the world routinely yelled at me once, so I need to team up with all these supervillains because the government that created Lyme disease and fiat currency sees him as a threat to their power>I'm the good guy.
>>154208266This is pretty typical thinking
>>154205280No
>>154206838Shouldve just killed the supervillains
>>154205280No.
>>154209470That's what an evil superman would do. Instead this one just lobotomized them. Pretty merciful for monster rulers.
It was more about the method than anything else. They stole people's DNA to make living weapons that were on a limited life span.
>>154205943I guess it is a better heel turn than Superman just not coming to him as much for help anymore but it kind of stinks to see any long term ally go bad. Stings all the more if you read the comic tie ins
>>154205280That whole thing was ham fisted and horrible. Timm should have been retired after that arc. He is out of ideas.
>>154210863Yeah it hurts.
>>154206838Because now someone has to wipe the Joker's ass.
>>154206955It was fucking retarded considering this was in a series where superman had assembled the most powerful heroes on the planet specifically to handle threats he couldn't or or to assist eachother. Basically Hamilton wanted a Justice League to fight superman when he was doing horrible experiments to overthrow the justice league. I legit think it would have been better if Hamilton had been so focused on this coming thing that he didn't know the JL was formed.>You need a countermeasure, superman. If you were anyone else, you would agree with me!>You act like I'm the only one, Doctor. >More kryptonians?!>I mean heroes. There is the Flash, Green Lantern, Batman, and many others. Not only can they fight me they would never need to: Having colleges helps me be better as a person and be there when even I need saving.>Please, spare me. Half those herpes probably don't exist and you all are in different cities. You don't keep tabs on eachother, you don't coordinate. If you get brainwashed it could be months->doc?>-before anyone could notice and->Doctor!>What?!>...When was the last time you went outside?>I hit the coffee stand around the corner, that counts.
>>154208113>Never express any validated fury at injustice or the present authorities have full right to execute you and continue their corrupt conduct without objectionWhat does exploiting ignorance and immorality to be voted top turd of shit mountain have to do with anything? It doesn't make you a saint.How many lives has Lex ruined or wiped out only to receive a slap on the wrist? Why is the idea of someone like him facing repercussions some affront to human civilizations?.If people in Cadmus who are even more informed than the common man are setting up contingencies against righteous indignation that's more cause for them to be seen as the rot in society, not Superman.I can't believe we're even having this discussion.
>>154205280Yeah
>>154205280both are supposed to have faults but Cadmus fucked up far more massively and were ultimately more of a problem than the group they were claiming to try and keep in check
