Is the reason people make "He-Man is gay" jokes because Mattel designed the characters and lore to pretty much be "Conan the Barbarian meets the New Gods" but Filmation's writers pretty much did "Captain Marvel meets the Smurfs" and the result is superficially kinda gay and definitely campy?
it was literally gay and sassy leather daddy shit
He walks around in a pink shirt.
>why don't they make the male characters as skimpily dressed as the female characters.>show where they do>Heh, totally gay
>>154211096If you arent already a dyed in the wool fan of MOTU you will never get it. All anyone on the outside sees are the memes. That's it. I can only liken it to living in a world where all anyone knew spiderman for were memes from the 1967 animated series. All the underlying potential, all those great characters, all the amazing stories they've never been exposed to simply dont matter because "haha gay joke".
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>>154211206It's torture aint it? Maybe I should be thankful that sword and sandals flavored sci-fi ended up so thoroughly obscure and overlooked but instead I'm just intensely depressed by the outcome. You see the same thing with Tarzan these days. Nobody talks about the novels or the comics, most only recognize the disney film if they recognize anything at all, and the conversation dies there.
>>154211096He Man got the gay accusations because come on, Adam wears effeminate colors. Even when he transforms his armor leaves too much exposed, Lion O from Thundercats despite having loose armor looks more covered up. And the reason characters that are similar like Tarzan don't get accused of being gay despite being half naked is because he has a good reason to be wearing little clothing, he's raised in the wilderness.And the reason Conan gets no accusations like He Man is because he's allowed to truly kick ass and fight seriously and brutally. He Man is censored by default.And another thing hurting He Man is the title of the character, that comes across as a parody of masculinity He Man. There was nowhere to go with this brand for it never had potential to be decent.And when I think of fantasy series stuff like He Man got replaced by Legend of Zelda.
>>154211096No. It’s because in the intro Prince Adam says “fabulous” powers were given to me.The word “fabulous” has since been taken over by Gay People. Like rainbows.So now that’s why He-Man is associated with “Gay.”
>>154211096JRPG Rookie adventurer to Hero be like:
faggots can only see anything through the lens of faggotry. Just like they see every instance of two guys being friends as queerbaiting.
>>154211247The filmation colorist responsible for that color choice was colorblind and intended for the pinks and purples to be various shades of green. This is why most filmation cartoons heavily utilize pinks and purples. They had a colorblind colorist on staff who couldnt discern between reds and greens and nobody knew, so they just went with it.>And the reason Conan gets no accusations like He Man is because he's allowed to truly kick ass and fight seriously and brutally. He Man is censored by default.>And another thing hurting He Man is the title of the character, that comes across as a parody of masculinity He Man. There was nowhere to go with this brand for it never had potential to be decentThe mini-comics embraced the Conan inspiration but the runaway success of the cartoon ensured He-man would be eternally doofy. Now we cant go one single iteration without heya references.
>>154211461We can have nothing in this shit world
>>154211486Not by looks, but everything else about him definitely is. He fights, goes on adventures usually alone, even turns into a wolf.It just proves that anon's point further, it's not just that He-Man LOOKS gay for NO REASON, it's also that he does nothing truly violent like his character design would imply.His very concept basically is "here's a barbarian that doesn't really hurt people and mostly uses his sword as a wand", that alone is incredibly gay, without considering Adam's colors or his haircut or whatever.Things like the 2002 show tried to course-correct some of these problems, but they never even came close to the popularity he had in the 80s, so the old show is still the main point of reference for everyone, both the audience and the creators, even above the toys and comics.
>>154211096They were jealousMan at arms had a gay moustache Fisto had the most unfortunate name in the world Closet cases
>>154211206>>show where they doNot anymore they don't lol. Not a leotard in sight in the new movie
>>154211096>still has a little boy face
>>154211574Not as long as queers get preferential hiring in the creative industries.
>>154211624If that's true why don't you and OP send out resumes? You know for being massive faggots.
>>154211633>You know for being massive faggots.Not even that anon but that's really, really lame. "U gay" is not a great zinger to start with, but if you even feel the need to explain it it's even more pathetic.And please don't say you explained it ironically.
>>154211096>Captain Marvel meets the SmurfsConsidering prince Adam and He-Man looks the same, I think it was Superman meets the Smurfs. Maybe Filmation intended to be Captain Marvel but the result was Superman
>>154211701Did Superman ever need a password to access his powers?
>>154211206it's the KIND of skimpy, thougha guy in just a loincloth? okay. he's a savage, we're okayloincloth and boots? er... he kinda needs one more garmentno, not .... not a fucking cross-chest-strap thing that looks like a fucking sports bra. I meant PANTS. if a guy has just a loincloth, pants/tights, and boots, he's lookin good.okay okay, fine. Let's get back to the hair. now a warrior man should have a very distinctive and wild hairstyl- is that a bowl cut?>Why the fuck did you give him a bowl cut like a little Asian girl?>Okay fuck you, I'm going back to work on this really experimental film starring Sean Connery.
>>154211247Lion-o looks like a fucking circus clown>>154211486Link can rock the pantsless look when he's an adventuring youth, but once he's grown enough, he needs tights. Having long sleeves without pants is inherently effeminate, only boys can pull it off.
>>154211770He has his catchphase "this seem to be a work for Superman"
>>154211624I'm not vying for faggotry you reactionary dipshit. I'm vying for the interests and hobbies of other straight dudes. Every fucking thing I've ever liked has been castrated and retarded into unrecognizable forms. MOTU, Star Wars, capeshit, anime. All fucking raped.
>>154211461Maybe if you were less gay about it people wouldn’t think your “friendship” was so Queer
>>154211701Adam and He-Man look the same because Filmation and Mattel weren't about to spend more money on a new character mold. That's the only reason why they look the same. Also Adam's vest used to be blue in the early comics but became pink because the producer of the show was colorblind and pointed out the color he wanted and no one questioned him. He wasn't told until it was way too late.
>>154211096oh, that's hot.best of both worlds. Get some oneeshota action going, but also some ojiiloli action too... Not bad.
>>154211096What did you think was gonna happen with a kid's show in 1983? Fire and Ice? Which was also 1983.
He has a Bobcut. He wears Pink when casual, a skintight leotard shirt underneath and a leather X when not. And a Speedo and Fluffy boots everywhere.He says the word "fabulous" a lot. Filmation draws him with full kissy lips.Yes and that one internet video of him singing a song everyone thought was about a Closeted Gay Man. That played a part.The name is sus as well. Puts too much emphasis on the "men men men" part. If you called a Gay Club "He-Men" we'd all know what it was about.
>>154214316I already told you why his vest is pink. You need to listen better.
>>154211096>he-man>okayNo, I'm never going to watch your movie
>>154214335The average person will not be aware or care that the producer was colorblind, they will just see a muscleman in pink.
>>154214335It doesn’t matter why the vest is pink it still ends up making the show look gay in context to the 80s
Was all the lesbian dom bondage iconography iin the show for boys?
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>>154211096Nah it's because gays try to infest and take over everything they see and make it about them shoving their dicks into each other's asses. He-man was just tragically one of the first victims.
The undertones are homosexual and a lot of the jokes are gay flirting.
>>154215626Anon, why do you keep thinking about shoving dicks to people’s anuses so much?
>>154213749But he doesn't need to say that to use his powers. If you try to shoot Clark Kent in the back of the head, the bullet would still bounce off if he didn't already know you were coming because he could hear your heart beat or something. Try the same with Billy Batson and him having time to say "Shazam" is all that would prevent his graymatter from turning into blood flavoured jelly splattered on the wall.What do you think would happen to Prince Adam?
>>154215763Retard lmao
>>154214073Projection
>>154214335And you should be smart enough to know why the actual reason doesn't matter.
Will you be watching the MOTU sequel movie if/when it comes to theaters, /co/?
>>154216834If one even happens I doubt theaters themselves will exist by the time it releases
>>154216834is Travis Knight directing again? i'll watch it if he does and it'll be tragic if they kick him out for the recent flop because it's the only good movie among the sea of youtuber garbage this year
Gay accusations just used to be the most effective, low hanging fruit insults.
>>154214335The colorist being COLORBLIND just makes the show seem even more slipshod and pathetic lacking any real care or attention
It's pretty much all because of Adam's design in the Filmation cartoon. It ruins the plausible deniability that everyone is ripped as some show of larger than life power, since Adam is not supposed to be powerful or large than life, and reframes it as everyone being ripped as if it's simply someone's preference. Now in reality this is probably Filmation trying to accommodate for 80% of the characters needing to be represented by the same toy mold in the toyline, but it can easily read as someone behind the scenes having a "type" if you don't have that knowledge.
>>154211096I'm not surprised the movie is doing bad, but I'm surprised it's on track to be "one of the biggest bombs of all time." They needed to chill with the jokes every two seconds, and some of the stuff about how only a 10 year old would use these names was cringe ("He-Man? You called yourself He-Man?" right before the end...), but for the most part it was... fine. I suspect they would have had more success if they'd gone the route of the CGI show or Dreamworks She-Ra and made the lead a teen, and the story "lighthearted adventure (with some more serious parts)" vs. "it's a comedy, with action bits!"
This movie bombing means Warner Bros will never make a Thundercats film.Sadge.
>>154211149If you look at physically fit men and immediately think it's gay, you are just projecting
>>154211096No, the reason people make "He-man is gay" jokes is because they're gen x assholes and all they know how to do is call shit gay or make pot references.
>>154216834No I don’t go to the movies anymore.
>>154217999I just don't get why they literally gave it a higher budget than Barbie. He-man has NEVER been bigger than Barbie. It was always going to fail with expectations like that, even if it did okay.
>>154218333Or maybe it's because the show is legitimately fucking gay the way other 80's cartoons weren't.
>>154211096No, it because of the clothes and the hair. Normies don't know what he is based on.
>>154218526Lion-o's slutty tummy window disagrees.
>>154213884Stop consuming mass media and either consume indie stuff or even better - make your own. >inb4 animation is hardWrite, then
>>154217760Ok
>>154211096He-Man is pretty gay thobeit.
>>154217760Did they really give him a cloth jacket in the toy? I would have thought that was even gayer, like a doll.
>>154218447>I just don't get why they literally gave it a higher budget than Barbie. Because the movie that had locations like "Snake Mountain" & "Castle Grayskull" and characters like "Man made out of moss" was always going to cost more to film than the movie with locations like "beach" & "beach (LA version)" and characters like "Midge."
>>154214316>Yes and that one internet video of him singing a song everyone thought was about a Closeted Gay Man.Do you mean Skeletor vs Beastman from CKY3?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsgGcPN0sZk
>>154221040He's talking about the what's going on song.
>>154220574Not even cloth, it was some sort of felt and yes it was removable. I lost the vest fairly quickly, in fact, since most of the motu figures had removable chest pieces, most of mine are half naked, and their legs are broken, cuz the rubber hose rotted.
>>154211247Ironically, Tarzan comics were popular among gay guys in the 50s
>>154211206It's gay because no woman would find that attractive, only men
>>154223284>It's gay because no woman would find that attractive, only menthis. kek
>>154216834I saw the new one, hope it gets a sequel. I can't go through another TFO. Skeletor was fun
>>154211096I'm a normie who's new to MotU after watching the new movie, and having started the classic series on Tubi. Are any of the other cartoons/the comics just as good as the series?All I really know is that the guy from Clerks made a He-Man series on Netflix that's shit.
>>154211211That's it. Hard to put it more clearly than that. The majority only see the memes and it colors everything that came before and after.
>>154211564How did they not notice the colors at any point in the process?
>>154211096it's because he's gay
>>154211149Sure, blame fathers for allowing their sons unlimited internet access instead of doing man shit with them. Seriously, that’s a legitimate thing they should be blamed for. Internet makes you gay if left unchecked.
>>154217999The movie really felt like it needed to point and laugh at itself too much. The Skeletor was still good but the attempts at humor were way too numerous for how mostly mediocre they were.
>>154223633well either because anon is full of shit or because filmation had pretty shitty standards
>>154211149You're a faggot seth
>>154211096the whats going on video popularized the gay He-man jokes. Also the haircut in the 80s cartoon looked pretty gay, that's why all the reboots change it.
>>154223720This. They had Skeletor kill King Randor one minute, and were back to joking around with Human Resources gags the next.It felt like it wanted to be jokier than stuff like Guardians of the Galaxy while still having serious elements. Fair enough, but they overshot the mark to the point where it was neither a good comedy nor a good adventure film. It wasn't terrible, but there's no getting around how awkward it could be at points, both in terms of not allowing the serious moments carry some weight, and overdoing the "Boy, there sure is something childish and cringe about He-Man, isn't there?" parts.
Who's up for an Storytime?
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>>154224851Yes, storytime the whole DC omnibus.I own that and "brick" would be an understatement. If there was a fourth Little Pig in the story, he would have built his house out of Masters of the Universe comics omnibuses.
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>>154225355Force choking, voodoo apples? I dont get quite what is going on here.
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>>154223429>Are any of the other cartoons/the comics just as good as the series?The 2002 reboot kept a lot of the same tone but had better animation. It also tried to be less completely episodic with a plot line of adding the Snake Men that dominated the last dozen or so episodes.The 2010s DC comic tried to be more mature, even grimdark (Dan Abnett the Warhammer 40,000 novelist wrote part of it).
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>>154225437The part I'm storytiming is by Giffen (RIP), by the way
>>154225437>cyborg Muslimas in bikini topsEternia really is a kitchen sink fantasy world
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>>154211096People make that joke because they're insecure or actually gay. If you can't look at fit people without thinking about sex you might be brainrotted
>>154225454>(RIP)Ah, that makes me feel bad about not liking how sophisticated Trapjaw and Beastman sound in this book. They are some of Skeletor's dumbest, they should not be able to get through a conversation without a slack jawed grunt.
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>>154221040GoddamnThe things gay "jokes" have done to this series lmao
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>>154211096>Is the reason people make "He-Man is gay" jokesIt's because he had "fabulous secret powers" that involved being fagging around in a harness and jock strap wrestling with similarly nearly naked men. Not exactly rocket science.
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>>154226145Also, Adam wears a pink shirt>>154226146
>>154225399Voodoo Apple.
>>154226158Unrelated to this issue, but I really like the Scar and Simba these comics gave to Keldor and Adam
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>>154226178awesome perspective shotThanks for storytiming anon, who knew He-Man was actually cool
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>>154226250Sexy Legs and Outfits aside, I like how this comic makes the different villains seem intimidating
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>>154226458in the original mini-comics He-Man was just He-Man all the time, no Adam
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>>154226190>>154226380>>154226392whoever this artist is must really like Teela. She's getting all the best expressions. Doesn't look like the Filmation version so i'm guessing it's his redesign of her
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>>154226250Again I hate the wordiness of them. It makes me think of all the audible quirks of these characters. Then that makes me think of how it would seem if they were all together. Then it makes me imagine Skeletor with all his henchmen at the dinner table: German is making some bubbly babble sound, beastman is growling or snorting, trapjaw is making rusty hing noises, evil-lynn is eating chips loudly or something, and skeletor is just sitting there deciding to either start shouting "nyeh" to cancel the cacophony out or try swallowing his havoc staff.
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>>154218059Good. I can't imagine anyone wanting to see the Thundercats designs in live action.
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>>154226622I can't think of Thundercats without remembering that Lion-O x WilyKit was gonna be endgame in the remake
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>>154226534Liking how cruel and pragmatic this Skeletor is compared to the different factions. Never seen the show, but it's a fun read
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>>154226865Poor Skeletor. All his Minions keep letting them get away.And this one he can't even yell at
>>154225488>>154226025>>154226034>>154225601Nothing will ever be quite as funny as when in the 2nd book Teela "dyes" her hair red in a moment that was clearly the artists getting notes from atop, and then in every single flashback including to childhood she's a natural redhead.
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>>154226903that's what they call a 'soft reboot' right?
>>154226853Yes. The Kevin Smith version was viewed as a crime against art.
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>>154226932>>154226943>>154226976artist is doing a great job making the Tiger look terrifying
>>154226903Blonde Teela in a bikini was a variant from a much earlier DC comic, the year the vintage toys came out. The artist of this run was probably thinking "I want her wearing less than a leotard.. guess I'll make her blonde instead of a redhead!"
>>154223429The best cartoon was the 2002 one
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>>154226999>>154227017You'd have thought Skeletor would keep the Sword, instead of hiding it under her Cauldron.Teela's dad doesn't recognise Battle Cat, maybe it TPd itself there and put the Tiger as a guard?>>154227045Damn, how interesting. Good excuse for it kek
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>>154227173>>154227145So, uh, were the stink goblins part of the masters or do you think they were just running the bar and they all walked in? Im guessing the artist just thought they were neat and wanted ro draw them in.
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>>154227072>>154227195Ah that explains it later>>154227208satisfying seeing Evil-Lynn muzzledagain I think whatever he's saying would be better shown than described
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>This whole fucking threadI'm gonna let everyone in on a secret >>154211590>>154211247All those weird lines you heard that read like double entendres" were never "incidental", they saw Adam's design and decided to take the piss.It's the same with April O'Neil's tie ups and a litany of things in 80s and 90s cartoons.There was no "secret cabal of perverts" or "gay agenda" involved. There were a 20 something guys who were fresh out of college, knew a few gay guys in college, maybe a few of them were gay them selves, and they all thought it would be funny to see what they get passed the censors by sneaking in the gayest shit imaginable.There are so many things like this where people wonder if there was some hidden agenda or "how the crew didn't know what this looked/sounded like."They totally did. They just knew you wouldn't until you were much older and found it funny
>>154227323Hope you enjoyed itI'll see if I can do some more tomorrow
>>154227324I prefer perverts slipping weird stuff into cartoons as a joke over political indoctrination any day!
>>154227296>>154227313>>154227346Thanks for the storytime anon.Having never seen anything He-Man, that was a pretty cool Swords n Sorcery miniseries. Does a good job introducing the different villains, as well. Probably helps that he starts off powerless, so they actually feel like big threats who he's outsmarting/escapingFor 6 issues, a starting village, a desert market, an ocean and a gladiator area are all the locations you need for a big adventureFeel like they should've done more with the Sorceress. Could've scrapped 2 pages of Adam's narration and just given that to showing whatever it was she was doing in Skeletor's memories, on the other side. Not a big complaint, moreso what I would've liked to see.Fave parts were Teela for the sexy fanservice outfits, and Skeletor as the bitter foil. I guess prowling around a castle instead of action gives you time to see his personality
>>154227478The follow up series is honestly even better and well worth a read, it picks up after this issue.Though to find out how everyone got mind fucked you actually have to read the JL crossover but aside from that it's all nicely self contained peak He-man
>>154218599Yeah I'm sure the gay clown cartoon will fill this void in my soul. These days I just watch/read old shit. Even if you're not consuming new media you are still consuming mass media btw. Also fwiw I am a drawfag, I've probably done more in the way of creating than you ever have at this point, so Im tired of anons like you throwing that out there like a cure all solution. Even if I reclusively retire to my own projects alot of what's being made still sucks dick.
>>154223558Such has been the case for decades. I grew up on the 2002 series and even then that was the take away. People didnt get it and assumed it was gay, boring, or both. >>154223633Because Filmation was the lowest rung fly by night animation house in America up until they shuttered their doors. They were the last guys doing everything domestically too. Despite that people still turn their noses up at their cartoons. Besides their crumby Dick Tracy adaption I still get a kick out of alot of this stuff. Whatever, most people cant appreciate shit older than them. That's life.>>154223744Irvin Kaplan. Look it up.
>>154224851Thanks for these storytimes. It makes this dying website moderately more tolerable.
>>154227324Posts like yours make me happy AI is bulldozing this industry. Nobody here deserves shit.
>>154227018Holy shir that explains a fucking lot, specially considering game studios nowadays touching older IPs and the self insert models
AND I CRY SOME TIMES WHEN I'M LYING IN BED
>>154227964Relax, son, it's just a drawing.
>>154227964trans btw
Just watched the movie todayI found some gags funny, but in general it was way too constantly self-aware for my liking, to the point it was a detriment to my experienceThat said, I liked the action and the story (even if others would consider it basic). The movie felt earnest in those regardsI give it 6/10 (feeling generous, 7/10)
>>154227324I'll entertain that, cause it's hilarious if those 20 something guys sabotaged this entire series' reputation because they had a giggle from him looking Gay
>>154228053I don't think it helps either that the movie is titled Masters of the Universe. An unaware moviegoer would probably think it's a generic action flick for little boysThey'll throw their money to the upcoming Spider-Man film
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