Why does he let himself get fucked over by Marvel? Why doesn't he make the jump to the winning team, DC?
>>154211372Big mystery since they're always cutting his storylines short.
>>154211372Dc fag here he can fuck off I'm glad he ruined X-Men and moira with krakoa instead of losh and brainy
>>154211372Because Hickman is expensive and the only books Hickman would want to write is Titans, LOSH, and New Gods though IIRC he said recently he's not as interested in LOSH or New Gods anymore since he used parts of his pitches already. And no way DC is going to give him the Bendis package just to write Titans, because DC hates that franchise for not being Justice League so he'd be writing at least 1-2 other franchises he doesn't care about.
>>154212247Is it true DC picked Bendis over Hickman in 2018?
>>154211372I'm just going to repost something I posted in the Krakoa thread.>You act as if Hickman has any knowledge of or respect for any previous stories. He is exactly like Bendis in that the only thing that matters to him is what he wants to do for his story to work and he doesn't give two shits how much characterization and history he has to twist, mutilate and ignore to make it happen. But he also only cares about the set up for his super awesome and genius story, he likes the concept but very quickly loses interest in the actual writing which is why you'll always have the ultra-hyped up beginning, then a ton of wheel spinning where nothing happens and then an ultimately cobbled together last minute ending that's wholly unsatisfying and that's if he actually completes the book and doesn't just abandon it and leave it to die (as he did with SHIELD and most of his indie books).>This is why Hickman is a fucking hack.
>>154212358Yes>While waiting on the development of his Amazon Studio's adaptation of East of West, Hickman pitched to DC>The pitch, 13 pages, laid out his vision for a series of 4 interconnected books focusing on the future of the DC Universe>The Amazon deal stalled, and in that time DC instead offered a mega deal to Bendis, effectively killing their deal>Marvel then made him an even better offer>>154212459It's funny because somebody ignoring previous stories and doing their own thing is what Titans needs lmao.
>>154211372The big two usually makes people sign an exclusivity contract. This was probably renewed when he went back to them yo do krakoa
>>154211372Don't worry, their Midnight line will work4th time is the charm
a little unrelated to the topic, but what do you guys consider essential reading if i want to read the 2015 Secret Wars? i've heard it's the quintessential Dr. Doom/Mr. Fantastic story for a while, and i wanna see if it's really all that. what do i need to read beforehand?
>>154211372Let Marvel keep him. This faggot fucking sucks.
>>154213796>>hackman
>>154212628Do you know what the pitch was? I'd assume three of the series were New Gods, LOSH and Titans, but what was the 4th? Teen Titans?Doing a LOSH, Titans and New Gods megastory is probably a better idea than anybody at DC has had for these franchises individually in the last 40 years.
>>154211372Because Marvel's the only ones who would hire a hack as shit as him
>>154214097the pitch was proto krakoa but legion style. revealing that all the different legions were all clones created by brainy who killed off all of them when they found out the truth and made a new legion each time, so ooriginal, reboot, threeboot and retroboot were all secretly thje same legion all along and brainy was the moira behind it
>>154212628>It's funny because somebody ignoring previous stories and doing their own thing is what Titans needs lmao.You say that until he butchers a character you like and are familiar with and have to listen to midwits talk about how brilliant it is even though he's effectively writing an OC.
>>154214646me with vision after he had victor in iteveryone just kept praising the series and im like really? hes suddenly an addict for vibranium and killed her nephew and no one thinks thats terribly writing
>>154214684Vision was King, a different hack.
>>154214646Kory, Raven, and Gar are basically OCs already after the 2003 cartoonHell Raven isn't even Raven's name anymore, DC is dead set on her actual name being Rachel Roth despite that only having been an alias for like 3 issues back in Johns' run
>>154211372why can't you spell his name? why can't you find a photo of him from this decade or last decade?what the fuck is the matter with you agency pricks
>>154214616Confusing details>>Brainiac 5 was secretly evil ala Wanda because Hickman only read the late 70s issues where Jim Starlin made Brauny evil and a murderer because fuck you, that's why.>>Brainy created Mon El as a test tube baby and all his memories of the 20th century and being in the Phantom Zone are fake>>Brainy resurrects all the dead Legion members and creating new test tube hybrid clones of the Legion>>All the previous incarnations of the Legion are irrevocably rendered unusable via Hickman revealing that Brainy has been using the miracle machine to reboot the future so there are NO alternate universes of different Legion because fuck you if you think Hickman is going to let anyone deboot his version of the Legion>>The founding three (Cosmic Boy, Lightning Lad, and Saturn Girl) die stopping Brainiac 5 for good, but not before Brainiac 5 kills off most of the Legion to make room for his new OCs, the hybrids and the resurrected characters like Chemical King and Invisible Kid 1 and Ferro Lad.
>>154215124That reads like anon's fanfiction
>>154215507Not to mention its also predicated on the nonsense that Moira is evil in Hickman's plans for the X-Men. That was only a pivot made for the idiots who forced Phase 1 to keep going. Moira is the one who keeps everything together after Krakoa falls, and escapes to the retarded Wakandan space army to regroup.The whole Braniac 5 is evil in Hickman's Legion pitch is just retards reverse engineering evil Moira, which comes from Duggan and the cunts who took the reigns from Hickman.
>>154216342Krakoa was shit just by Hickman’s writing. Other writers just tried to salvage what was salvageable
>>154211372Because he's an awful writer.
>>154216398>Other writers just tried to salvage what was salvageableAh, the Krakoa cocksuckers are here, I see.
Wouldn't mind him in Titans but the problem is>Dick Grayson or beast boy doesn't fit in they way he writes characters, so better not >Even if he want to writer Dick decently, Batman editorial are usually small dick energy so they will seethe the moment Titans got more big and try to yell for not being used>After G.O.D.S and the space stuff failure plus midnight looking like shit, I don't have faith on hackman.
Legion bros...what are you expecting from the new book? What would you like to see happen with the Legion? I'm not Williamson or Hickman btw.
>>154211372a better question - why doesn't he kill himself?
I don't care about his Marvel work but East of West is a solid 9/10
>>154216342These are some anon's takes on ideas that may or may not be real rather than Hickman's actual pitch documents. I can see Hickman making Brainiac 5 a morally gray character who does bad things for an alleged greater good, just like Moira. In Hickman's own original Moira X timeline, the mutants won and then went on an AI-killing spree throughout the universe.
>>154213898>Astonishing Tales 1-6>Shang-Chi Master of Kung FuSuper Issue>New Avengers 1-3>Avengers 1-4And thats why Manga will be more successfull, why do i need 3 different series and a special issue to get the whole story. Why not start with #1 and end with a #12?
>>154218160There are plenty of self-contained series out there. The crossover shit unfortunately works for boosting floppy sales which is why Marvel and DC have done it for decades. They don't care about how difficult it'll be to get back-issues in the future, money that they don't actually see since they get theirs from the retailers, their primary concern is how much money they're bringing in that month.
>>154214616Yeah, that's the LOSH part, but we don't know how it tied together to New Gods or Titans that he pitched at the same time.
>>154211372>Why doesn't he make the jump to the winning team, DC?He wanted to make legion of superheroes in 2015 but they didn't let him (read: DIDIO)
>>154211372Nigga is that Angry joe
>>154218758Jonathan Spicman
>>154218685One of the things Dan did right for once. Hickman would be a terrible fit for DC.
>>154213898This chart is full of shitThe only series that ties into his incursions story is avengers, new avengers and secret warsThose series have a couple of references/nods to his prior f4 runJust because it features some same characters doesnt mean you have to read it all, or that it connects in anywayFurther more, his shield and ultimates are just not that good
Cuck phenotype.
>>154218160Everyone that bounces around these titles is a certified sheeptard.
>>154221262>ties intoI think images like that are more like the Morrison shit, thematic ties from creators that people want to pretend are hypercrisis events.
>>154218758Cant unsee that!
>>154218247But in the long term thats why they are in the gutter. >>154221370Or fat-stan!
>>154221493No, crossovers did not diminish comic sales.
>>154221386Doesnt work thematically either
>>154221556It's Hickman, something something, multiverse and calamitous event.
I don't particularly like him eitherbut i have a fantastic four collection by him, and i just completed the new avengers collection today with the omni vol 2 i got in the mail
>>154221507Say that to Ms Marvel
>>154223301She was diminished after her first few issue arc. Far before crossovers.
