Dumbass Angel Edition Warning: Do not engage the resident schizo called MatPat. It is not worth your time.
lute is eve
>>154213907Maybe the real schizo was inside us all along...
>>154214060I wanna be inside of you.
>>154214007Glad to see Lute Eve schizos are growing in numbers in my absence.
>>154214007He'll yeah she is. I'm looking forward to it. Jessica has been hinting at this shit since forever and I'm so eager.
>>154214480i know she recently said that she makes it till season five
>>154213907>Emily>"Dumbass"I beg your pardon, because while she can be naive, her heart is in the right place and is surprisingly proactive.
>>154214521I lovingly call her a dumbass. If I actually dislike a character for their lack of intelligence I usually call them a retard.
>>154214629She is a silly goofball.
Emily is best girl
>>154214741Indeed.
Are we 100% certain that Radiapple will be a thing? /gen
>>154213907
>>154214778I hope the fuck not but the show will be shit either way
>>154214778It might happen because Viv has no self control. Dislike the theory of Rosie being Lilith. I want her to be her own thing. Plus I want Lilith to be subtly racist towards black people.
>>154214847I would love for Lilith to just be an imperfect mother. If she is in fact some evil twin, I'm confused because then that means Charlie was raised by the twin, so... identity switch ig? idek. Lilith being racist is funny af
>>154214741Especially when she's cucking lesser characters.
>>154214928Ew. No. Charlie can fuck off... VaggiexEmily is where it's at. Fuck the demon scum.
>>154214778That would mean Charlie's mommy issues would come from Eve? kayyyyy that's weird but w/e lmao so she was just dicking around while Abel was freaking out n shit? Lol
HBnigger here. Are there any HH gals that would appeal to me? I main Stella and Keenie, for context.
>>154214952>I main StellaRosie might be your lady. >and KeenieKeenie enjoyer is that you?
>>154214999>spoiler...Mayberrychad?
>>154214936Listen Vaggie just sucks. She's so nothing burger you can ship her with anybody and it would still feel like she brings nothing to the table.
>>154214948Yeah I don't really think wife swap is a thing. Maybe it was a super early concept that got scrapped but that's about it.
>>154215068Lilith being a potentially abusive and super emotionally, neglectful mom fits in better with viv's track record of mommy issues, versus Charlie's real ("""good""") mom disguising herself as a made-up identity.. I mean she would still be a shit mom then, but yeah I'm inclined to believe with you. I was in a server with the employee that gave these leaks and they sounded unsure of who even Lilith was. She said she THINKS Rosie is Lilith,,,, ????
>>154215094I know that in the patreon thing, in a call, they've said as recent as 2 years ago that and Lilith is a fallen angel... And then with Rosie's whole angelic aesthetic, I'm inclined to believe maybe Rosie being Lilith? But the mother swap theory. Seems something that was scrapped based on everything that's been said so far? So I can't help but wonder if maybe whoever gave these leaks misunderstood what was actually being said??
>>154215030Indeed it is, how are you doing? To answer your question about who's like Keenie in HH - I sadly don't have enough knowledge on the HH ladies to make an effective comparison. Maybe FemHusk, but that's r63 so I think that might be cheating here.
>>154215068I wonder... Is it possible that maybe Lucifer knows his wife fucked off a while ago so in her place he made a new Lilith? We know he's a Seraph so he does have the power to make new life. Could also account for the eve and Lilith figure in the book. A lot of people are new to Hazbin lore, so it's probably not common knowledge that in past artwork of Lilith, she had that exact same hairstyle. So maybe Lucifer literally created a new Lilith so the real one could do her own thing as Rosie?
>>154215119>Indeed it isA pleasure to speak with you again.>how are you doing?I'm posting on /co/ again.Shame that there's slim pickings from this Vivslop. What's that Niffty girl like? I've got a soft spot for the short ones.
>>154214936If it's such a good ship then why isn't there more fan art of it?
>>154215153>A pleasure to speak with you again.Likewise friend. >Shame that there's slim pickings from this VivslopThe HH threads have seen better days, I was able to write a HH green two days ago so that was nice. >What's that Niffty girl like? I've got a soft spot for the short ones.I did forget about her, she is kind of like Keenie in a sense - with her attitude, has feelings for "bad boys", loves knives and is a mini nip maid. Has a high chance to molest you.
Why are angels like this?
>>154215224>I was able to write a HH green two days ago so that was nice.More writing than I've done, haha (pain)>SpoilerSold. Niffty is best girl.
>>154215250why aren't more like this?
>>154215262>More writing than I've done, haha (pain)What's stopping you? >Sold. Niffty is best girl.She will do it again.
>>154215288>What's stopping you?Myself.
>>154213907charlie is a communist
did they seriously posted here back then?https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/109508724/#q109510896https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/106080636/#q106082110
>>154215298>Myself.Don't be so hard on yourself, have you lost the motivation or just ideas on stuff to write about? >>154215276>>154215250Why is she dressed like a slut?
>>154215334It helps draw your attention to them
>>154215334I've got ideas, and even if I didn't, I'm damn good at getting them. It's honestly just me letting myself spend too much time wasting time on 4chan and the like instead of doing the hobbies I want to do.
>>154215347I believe there is more beauty in modesty than being scantily clad.
>>1542153184chan was a magnet for autistic fucks back during the old days. Having an animator/drawfag chill here that worked with Viv isn't that unusual. I wonder if they still work for her or it's one of the poor bastards dropped post pilot.
>>154215146You know that would not earn Lucifer positive report. And that employee fucked off a long ass time ago if I'm not mistaken, and it sounds like she didn't have the full picture? Given that the storybook is from Charlie's perspective, she's probably reiterating what was said to her by Lucifer.... So that's just his version of events, with his spin on it... I could see this happening. but then again I'm always team make Lucifer look even worse. Him making a Lilith clone for Charlie to have as a mother figure, kind of tracks with him at you LMAO
>>154215250>There's a reason why humans were created with the ability to breed with angels.
>>154215365Did Viv ever post? I recall her saying on her bluesky that she's never even had an account on 4chan rofl
>>154215250"Sorry anon, but Sera is canonically a lesbian, thus any straight ships are lesbian erasure(tm). Also, fuck Vivziepop for making Abel straight and invalidating AbelXSt Peter.">t. picrel
>>154215250WANT>>154215276GOODNESS GRACIOUS GREAT BALLS OF FIRE
>>154213907You're ALL schizos to me. Less conspiracy boards, more shipfaggotry.
>>154215334>Why is she dressed like a slut?that is pretty shallow of you anon
>>154215379LMAO SAGGINARTS FLIPPING OUT. It wasn't she one of Viv's main cocksuckers???
>>154215224I want to lovingly rape niffty
>>154215385shameful...
>>154215351Best advice I've seen and can give is to dedicate one day or two to writing and just simply write what comes to mind, corrections can come after what's been written down is done. On other days you can think of what to write next or adjust what you've already written.
>>154215406>The Aftermath.
>>154215379Since have we followed anything Vivzie wanted?
>>154215379Obvious retards to stupid to get the dig shallow corporate wokeness of pride month to only treat LBTQ communities poorly regardless. Retards in that same community are just angry at something and instead of yelling into a anonymous void.
>>154215384There are levels to being schizophrenic. Low level shit is fine. Higher ones not so much.
>>154215436>>154215384I'll take schizo-babble about fictional bullshit over political retardation.
>>154215389You can be a cocksucker and a retard at the same time. She's obviously both.
>>154215444Do we even get political retardation here? We get some larped Christianity from time to time but that's it.
>>154215410I'll have to keep that in mind.
>>154215361I see what you meanIf we were not on a blue board I'd rather my angels be casually nude but such is life
>>154215468It works for me when writing my short stories - greens are different, but the advice "just write it" works, hope the advice works out for the best of you.
>>154215477Sera does fit my preference for older women with beautiful faces and fine legs.
>>154215477>>154215514need to be in a threesome with a Rosie and Sera cosplay
>>154215435It's wild to me how invested certain fans are towards character's canon sexualities, especially when it's more to do with literal fucking fan wank [material] than anything to do with "muh representation." I don't remember back in the Voyager days anyone being like>Jeri Taylor better reveal that Tom Paris and Harry Kim are gay, or there'll be hell to pay!for example. It's fucking fan fiction, and even Viv herself said it's fine to ship characters outside their canon sexualities.
>>154215535They need to be validated. People. Fuck off and say that canon doesn't matter when it's something they hate, but when their little fanfictions come true, suddenly it's the best thing ever. Idgaf what people say, canon sucks but it can also be pretty sweet.
>>154215523>ThreesomeYou can't give proper love to two people at the same time, Anon, you must be loyal to one.
>>154213907I don't think Lute is Eve.I do think she is the virgin Mary tho
>>154215571>I do think she is the virgin Mary thoI don't think there is ever a timeline were that is true because the backlash would be fucking insane. Viv doesn't have the balls to do such a thing. There could be some parallels ( I know some people draw parallels between Eve and the Virgin Mary) but that's about it.
>>154215571I don't think Lute is Eve either, though mostly because the idea of Lute and the rest of the exorcists being spergy femcels a la the supreme gentleman himself is fucking funny to me.
>Emily thread
>>154215677It's more of a general Hazbin thread. Used a Emily pic since last times people complained about how I used Adam and Lute.
>>154215571Viv doesn't want to depict many biblical figures. She even confirmed Jesus isn't gonna be a thing. They confirmed no more biblical figures will appear, just explore what they already have (specifically mentioned Adam and Eve) so we've already seen Eve - I'm positive it's Lute but so could Rosie.
>>154215677made for Sinners
>>154215710We might also see Cain since Abel exists and mentioned a braver son. Not sure about Seth since he's more obscure and Viv doesn't really know biblical stuff that well.
>>154215736Viv did suggest we'll see Adam's other family but if I has to guess, we may just see them in flashbacks or they might just spawn much like Abel did in season two. Remember that he had absolutely no mention in season one
>>154215740I fully expect that.
Placing Eve parallels on Lute is so redundant when she literally could just be Eve lol
>>154215819True
>>154215819She is
The ""Eve"" in the book looks exactly like pilot Lilith btw. First and last: https://vivziepoparchives.tumblr.com/post/752926056627027968/portraits-shown-lining-the-walls-of-the-hotel-inHere too: https://vivziepoparchives.tumblr.com/post/766777820114518016/lucifer-and-lilith-art-inspired-by-listening-toIn old art, Viv never mentioned Eve. I would not be surprised if Lucifer made a copy of Lilith to hide how shitty the real one was desu. He's a seraphim angel right? Like Sera? He can create life ......
Lilith is EveRosie is Lilith>waits for the seething
>>154215864>Lilith is Lilith>Rosie is Eve/Rooftfy
MatPat is back at it. Ignore and don't ever respond. If you have to talk about him use third person.
>>154215874I'm not even MatPat>>154215871>>154215876Lolno
>>154215874They could at least be original. The Rosie/Eve/Lilith thing has been repeated to oblivion since the pilot started. Get new material lol
>>154215888Uhh you talking to me?
>>154215863Wait wtf that is p fucking weird.
>>154215888I mean, Season 2 didn't exactly help by making it more obvious. if anything, the theories have only gotten stronger.
>>154215891I said they.>>154215891
>>154215864Rosie is Alastor's first victim, she is tricking him with a soul like placebo effect so she can take advantage of him as revenge.
>>154215894If your actual takeaway is that Lilith in heaven is fake after season two, you need classes in literacy.
>>154215904mb meant to say media literacy
>>154215898Sorry my bad. Was walking while reading.
>Charlie blames herself for Lilith leaving>Charlie and Lucifer say that Lilith has ALWAYS been good at ignoring meaningless things and people>Charlie's VA says Charlie has ALWAYS only ever wanted her mom's love, affection and attention,Lilith was always like this. Unless you're suggesting evil twin Eve is Charlie's real mom or raised her. Which is even more retarded
Charlie dies at the end of the show, Angel Dust turns straight and gets with Vaggie by curing her of her lesbianism, Adam comes back, Alastor becomes white and then becomes human again but is stuck on Earth forever, Lilith, Rosie, Eve and Roo are all revealed to be Susan and Susan is the real most powerful villain in the Hellaverse and becomes the final boss, Valentino redeems and goes to Heaven, Vox becomes the new God, Katie Killjoy is revealed to be Blitzo in disguise and the real Kaite Killjoy is revealed to have been locked in Blitzo's basement this whole time, Sera gets with Satan, Baxter is trans, Lute becomes fat and Husk becomes an Overlord againSource: Vivziepop told me in a dream.
>>154215904>>154215903That doesn't explain why Alastor summoned Rosie (whose supposedly just a normal Overlord) as opposed to any actual demoness, why she has such high amount of power to grant to Alastor to make him the strongest Sinner or why she cares so much about Charlie and the Hotel.
>>154215925Are you suggesting overlords can't make deals with living souls?
>>154215917Absolutely beautiful. I kneel Vivziepop.
>>154215916The Lilith fans won't accept this. She's the BEST mother who does NO wrong
>>154215925>whose supposedly just a normal Overlord) as opposed to any actual demoness,Idk how to tell you this but overlords are demons.
SEXWITHVAGGI
>>154215925How did the genie in Aladdin make Jafar the most powerful genie in the world? Same concept
>>154215945Their still formerly HUMAN Souls though. Sinners. Sinners can't traverse anywhere outside of the Pride Ring also. If Rosie is supposed to be a Sinner, she should not be able to do this.
>>154215950According to Vivzie, vaggie is a really good dancer and it's for lore reasons
>>154215952You would need to be the most powerful Overlord in all of Hell to do that. I don't recall Vox making other demons more powerful than him. It's pretty clear Rosie is an entirely different beast and is no mere Overlord.
>>154215954TF are you talking about? Rosie didn't traverse. She used the radio as communication.
>>154215960>You would need to be the most powerful Overlord in all of Hell to do that.Read the comment you replied to again.
>>154215962Exactly. BECAUSE she can't tracel outside pride, she used the radio.
>>154215960>It's pretty clear Rosie is an entirely different beast and is no mere Overlord.Sure. Doesn't mean she's Lilith. She's probably Roo
>>154215956>Adam orders Vaggie to learn to make salsa>gets mad cause she learns salsa instead.
>>154215986yassss ,,,, i mean RE = Rosie's Emporium = Root of all Evil
>>154215962>>154215978I don't believe that's legal for Sinners to do either. Also again, why would Alastor bother contacting some random Overlord as opposed to some actual demon in Demonology then? We've never seen any other Sinner or Overlord do the stuff she does.
>>154215996>I don't believe that's legal for Sinners to do eitherThat's you assumption.
>>154215996>why would Alastor bother contacting some random Overlord as opposed to some actual demon in Demonology then?He didn't call out anyone's name in the ritual. He said voices of the afterlife. Anyone powerful enough would do>We've never seen any other Sinner or Overlord do the stuff she does.Not yet and not that we know of
I dislike Rosie and Heaven Lilith being Eve theories because they turn her character incredibly flat. What part of Rosie inspires Eve? Some bring some the decor of her town but she's a Victorian lady. Sucking up to the current royalty is their thing. Is Eve is supposed to be satisfied larping as some cannibal lady? Does she seriously not give a shit about Adam or any of her children ( Abel included)? In the case of Eve being Heaven Lilith it reduces her character to being one note " big bad Lady wants revenge". She doesn't care about anything or anyone else. Her opinions on Adam and her kids? Nonexistent. Opinions on sinners? Irrelevant. Does she want revenge on Lucifer and Lilith? Apparently only of she has some convoluted plan which required them being alive and well to work ( aka retarded AF).
>>154215996She's Roo.
>>154215999If Sinners can't leave Pride, I am positive that also means no outside communication. Closest thing to that would be ghosts--- which don't exist in the Hellaverse.
>>154216007Which is why it's the most likely that is what Vivziepop will go with.
>>154216011>If Sinners can't leave Pride, I am positive that also means no outside communication.That's your assumption. She can't traverse outside of Pride THEREFORE she uses the radio for communication.
>>154215694Well, I know that, but Emily wouldn't.
>>154216016Yeah and she'll definitely make Adam bisexual because it's obvious and the fandom demands it-Oh. Wait.
Lol ppl don't understand Viv does whatever the fuck she wants. Whether that's Lilith, Rosie or Lute being Eve is up to her. Not what fandom wants.
>>154216019>>154216024It's funny seeing you guys seethe so much.
>>154216033Do you say anyone who disagrees with you is seething? The cope ,,,,,
>>154215941Then those Lilith fans are retarded, because there's nothing in the narrative that indicates that Lilith was either a good mother or a good person. While Vox was likely exaggerating about Lilith to both the sinners and to Charlie, I strongly believe that he wasn't making up what he said out of nothing, and his version of Lilith is likely closer to what she actually is like than what Lucifer and Charlie claim she is.
>>154216033Who's seething? Do you not like fandom discussion or...
>>154216038>cope cope cope cope cope copeThose who bring up cope first are usually the first ones to be coping.>>154216045It's just that you have weak arguments.
>>154216041>Vox says things about Lilith>Sera says similar things about Lilith>Lucifer and Charlie say she was always good at ignoring meaningless people>Erika says Charlie always wanted her mother's love and blames herself for her leavingYeah vivs mommy issues
>>154216041Viv likes to make women bad guys and weak men heroic underdogs who do nothing. Lilith is going to be depicted as a total cunt when she finally has actual dialogue and Lucifer is going to be chained to another set of narrative railroad tracks for everyone to rescue him from.
>>154216054Got it. That's a no, then. They're not weak? You can't come up with counter arguments other than 'I think'
>>154216064Lucifer is such a pathetic tool. I can't wait.
>>154216041Lucifer doesn't even counter argue when Charlie says Lilith was good at ignoring people. He agrees.The real Lilith is a bitch and I'm here for it.
>>154216066I've been the one bringing up other points the whole time. You haven't debunked a single one other than going "I think". Quit gaslighting.You haven't even acknowledged the other points I've brought up and there's the fact Season 2 has given us more clues.
>>154216083>You:Sinner can't physically leave Pride ring>Which is why she used the radio. She didn't traverse anywhere>You: WRONG. I think theyre not allowed to do that either (no evidence)?? O-kay ,,
>>154216094It's Matpat. Don't bother.
>>154216056Lilith was Lucifer's beard, and Adam is bunking up with him now after died during the Extermination event at Hazbin Hotel, because he is a sinner by his definition. Which would explain the Lucifer and Adam bitch fit fight they threw at each other. Lucifer did not kill Adam because reasons but Niffty took that cred, and by extension so did Alastor.
>>154216101Huh
>>154216094Do you have evidence to back up that all Sinners can contact others on Earth? How about the more important fact that how come Rosie cares so much about Charlie and the Hotel? How could a random Overlord be so invested and caring to her to make it Alastor's mission to literally watch over her and defend her? How is she THIS powerful? If we are to assume she's a Sinner, she would automatically by default be the real strongest Sinner in Hell, something that Alastor could never hope to achieve given she granted him such high power.
>>154216098Ohhh got it
>>154216008Sus that there's eyes in everywhere in Hell EXCEPT cannibal town, actually. Hmmm. Rosie Roo is so so good
MatPat lives so rent free in people's minds here that anyone who doesn't agree with others viewpoints is just called MatPat.Hysterical.
>>154216125Literally who?
>>154216007The supposed truth is that Rosie is the real Lilith and Lilith in heaven is Eve. None of the mom switch truthers can ever answer though. Season two also cements that Lilith was always like this. They drive that point home. If they said that Lilith starting acting weird out of nowhere, then yes it's support the theory. But multiple characters talk and confirm things about her and so does Charlie's voice actor.Lilith has always been Lilith. I'm stoked.
>>154216125?
>>154216128Some local schizo who goes on about Zestial being Cain, Adam being a misunderstood complex hero figure, Eve being the most malevolent force on the universe. He gets pissy at the thought of Lilith/Rosie/Eve stuff having been debunked bc it goes against his headcanons. So i understand anyway
>>154216133None of what you said was even remotely true.
>>154216101I'm confused. What are you trying to say.
>>154216159Yeah I agree. Rosie being Lilith and Lilith being Eve is a pile of buffalo dung.
>>154216150I don't think Zestial is Cain, Adam isn't complex at all, don't know much about Eve. Lilith/Rosie/Eve has never actually been debunked though. It's not a headcanon either if the show gives away many fucking obvious clues that you are either too stupid to understand or you choose to plug your ears and ignore.
>>154216166>haha i said the opposite of what you really mean
>>154216174You actually believe that ? Oof lmao that's even funnier. aight aight aight
>>154215956All the Exorcists being dancers!!!
The chains Al got from Rosie were yellow/white and her powers when she helped everyone during the finale song were a yellowish white also....I don't hear anyone else ever acknowledge this one. Hmmmm...
>>154216185Everyone does. She's a fallen angel or a creation of Lucifer's.
Vox literally hacked Earth's security systems. Rosie can communicate on earth with the radio. It's on the show? What is that guy on? They can't leave pride so yeah they have to be creative to gather more souls
>>154216212They won't listen or care to. They're a schizo hellbent on hearsay she said leaks from like ... 2022
>>154216183Adam used to do the Macarena with them after their training sessions.
Guys can we just ignore and stop responding to MatPat? He's gonna fuck off for a couple hours if we reawaken the childhood trauma caused by his neglectful parents. The dude craves the attention that he so lacked during his developmental years.
>>1542162202021 and from someone not in the writing team. She wasn't even sure either: she said she thinks Lilith is Rosie. Most likely a scrapped spitballed idea.
>>154216253Quick!! Bring on the Emily porn!! I SUMMON THEE
>>154216262We can't post porn here sadly. That how they drown him out in the trash thread. We can post cute fanart tho.
>>154216269Roger that
>>154216255That's just what you think.>>154216253Nah, I had a great childhood.
>>154216291Can't see shit
>>154216291Fuck my phone.
>>154216291This is an Emily thread. Fuck off with these two
>>154216301Not a Emily thread. It's a Hazbin one. Post whatever you want from the show.
>>154216309Oh I'm slow as fuck. My bad my bad
>>154215561built for adam.
>>154216321I'd be the equivalent of having a chihuahua and great mastiff breed. That little thing is getting crushed.
>>154216329As God intended
>>154216337God would frown upon all the halfbreeds that would come from such an union.
>>154215477I could see it with a more greenhouse-inspired heaven, y'know to keep in line with edenic imagery.
>>154216417That would be ten times more appealing then the Heaven in the show. Even if everyone was wearing clothes ( maybe togas) it would still look great.
>>154216728They'll have so many babies that Adam will need to help out with the breastfeeding.
>>154216301Go away Emily
>>154217137
>>154217146Praise Adam’s holy moobs and milk!
>>154217137He’s got an enormous pair of milk-bloated moobs for that, so does Abel.
>>154213907>>154214521Cherish this precious dork.
>>154217146We all know Emily secretly sucks the moobs of Abel.
>>154217476Indeed
>>154217568Deedni
>>154215372One of God's many blessings
>>154218538But who does Sera lesbian with?
>>154218563I guess nobody so far. Maybe a member of the elders is a chick so she can have her heaven mandated scissoring.
>>154218563She's in lesbians with me obviously
>>154218602Maybe some young busty new Winner who clearly has the hots for her. She loves to suck on her breasts. Power bottom.
>>154217476Protect the little goofball.>>154217568>
>when Emily sees a cute human man
>>154218933>
>>154218933She definitely has a fetish for mortal male humans.
>>154218602Maybe she has a forbidden lesbian relationship with a DEMON babe.
>>154219104Velvette
>>154219187I could see Sera and Velvette having a secret lesbian relationship. Ultra secret. The angel and the overlord sleeping together.
>>154215863Given that the book is based off of what she's been told by Lucifer, I believe it. Actually, the book includes Lilith's uprising and the exterminations meaning, it was written very recently too.
>>154213907>Do not engage the resident schizo called MatPat.https://voca.ro/1dsPgfx5VwST
>>154215379Adam helped Abel get out of the closet.
Honestly Sera feels bi.
>>154215863So let me get this straight... Lilith looks like this, and people still think that the eve puppet in the book is the real Eve? Kkkkk
>>154219508She doesn't feel anything. That's why people saying that her being a lesbian feels random are weird af. She could just as easily have been asexual or pansexual.
>>154219543It would help if her lesbianism had been established earlier, like secretly making out with a younger angel.
>>154215863Well great. Know we know for sure Lilith is actually Eve in disguise. I barely give a shit because the copes around this factor alone created the most insanely bullshit excuses I ever seen.
>>154219422Tapping the sign ^^
>>154219529Yeahhhh. Lol people basically got attached to this clone idea and it's fanon. Low-key can't wait to see it all go to shit. If viv is good at anything it's that she really does fuck all. This also wouldn't be the first time fandom has these high expectations, then she does something completely different. It's like the whole Lucifer thing all over again.
Plot-twist: Sera is disguised Eve.
>>154219667That's actually been theorized before believe it or not. If we're gonna match hair and shit, carnilla and Emily come surprisingly close
>>154219654Personally I want to see Charlie give Lucifer an earful for omitting so much about Lilith lmao he's gonna look even more shitty
>>154219672But I also think it should be subverted by revealing Eve isn’t actually an antagonist but a patsy.
>>154219712I personally think Lute is Eve. But Eve being a patsy would be lowkey lame just because it'd mean she didn't change? So Adam is able to but not her? Unless she died super early like Abel did which ofc I don't think is the case
>>154219736I also like to think Abel is the only yellow belly out of the entire Eden family lmao
>>154219736I prefer Lute being a DEMON raised by Heaven and self-hating as all get out. She’s so desperate to be accepted by Heaven but can’t even accept herself.It makes her a tragic figure: a demon who wants to be an angel.
>>154219775Go away mat
>>154219543Peter feels bi desu
>>154219780Just don't bother answering. He's a waste of typing. He repeats this same rhetoric all the time.
>>154219780I’m not Mat. I just like the theory for the drama. Also it makes sense. Why tarnish angels when you can outsource that to demons?
>>154219798Peter wants to get pegged by strong beefy women . If I recall he blushes when lute threw her sword at him
>>154219807Got it!!!! Yeah they seemed vaguely familiar lol
>>154219807I’m not Mat, hippie. Also shouldn’t it be Mat with two t?
>>154219823I approve. Is Sera his top?
>>154219834Oh yeah? Does this Mat like fatties?
>>154219861Idk Sera doesn't strike me as butch? she's pretty femme imo
Every Lilith is Lilith faggot is some crazed individual that redirects the blame they should receive to others.Don’t bother responding to them. They’re too malicious to behave themselves.
>>154219861>>154219874Sorry that didn't even answer your question LOL maybe? What do you think? I'm split on it
>>154219874Sera is made for handholding.
>>154219912This is the way.
Do you think Sera would do lesbians with Emily? Or do people think they're literal blood related sisters
>>154219874She can still be a top, maternally showing Peter a good hard loving.
>>154219945think Peter has a mommy or lactation fetish ?
>>154219935They would when they end up in hell together.
>>154219935I think they’ve had stress relief sex.
>>154219838You’re better off ignoring those bitches. They’re trapped in delusional world and will never lmprove.
>>154219955Both. He loves to suckle on Sera’s massive breasts.
Just shut up on all sides and talk about what really matters: Adam and Abel lactating.
>>154219997
>>154219997I think I just threw up in my mouth a little
>>154219997Those things down there aren't udders, and that's not milk.
>>154219997But will Lute and Emily get fat from the milk?
>>154220036Almost certainly if they're not careful.
>>154220074It’s so delicious they can’t stop suckling on the fattening milk. Even Sera can’t resist Abel’s milk.
>>154219997i want to bite adam's moob but in a loving way
>>154220147I’d suckle til my gut was bloated.
>>154219955She is happy to play Mommy with him.
>>154216107Don’t forget Alastor was smiling because he knew his deal was about to be broken when Vox said he is more powerful than Lilith. Implying that Alastor got his powers from Lilith.
>>154220286I don’t think Rosie is Eve or Lilith. But I won’t be surprised if she’s originally from Heaven, hence her frequent kindness.
>>154220330rosie, zestial and carmilla, the nicest, most helpful and reasonable sinners not actually being sinners at all while all the 'real' sinners are unapologetic assholes completely destroys the themes of the show though.
>>154220395True, true. It’s why I like Demon-Lute so much. She HAS the potential to be better than she is, she just needs to stop hating herself.
>>154220395I think Carmilla is a fallen angel and she used those connections to prepare ahead of time on making her holy weapons business.
>>154220028You're confused. The things down below are their huge antediluvian cocks dripping with precum. The things up above are their full, sore tits dripping milk. Does that help?
Also if the Exorcist females are all secretly demons, it shows the better side of Adam to tolerate them in Heaven.
>>154220395I personally always hated how Carmilla being a "nice Overlord" given how she's a literal war profiteer who sells people angelic weapons and causes daily, unregulated Extermination Days with them and willingly sided with Vox to build a giant doomsday device without even putting a failsafe on it. She's easily one of the most hypocritical and evilest characters in the show, but they never call her out on her bullshit.
>>154220421>Season finale>Lute is in her true form>Adam shows up and knows the truth>He is completely unchanged>He comes up to hold her
>>154220455Being a war profiteer she’ll end up fighting Charlie. Peace is bad for her business and her daughters’ futures.
>>154220452Sera wouldn’t tell Adam what they are. Just that they’re supposed to be like this.
>>154220452Fun fact: in the French dub, the Exorcists are changed to be a unisex faction, with some members being male.
>>154220440That'd been nice and made her the mother of Vagatha, instead of her being a fallen angel.
>>154220474I so approve. Adam loves a demon and a demon loves him. It’s pure hypocrisy and it works for them.
>>154220495It's worth noting Carmilla being a "nice Overlord" seems to have been a last minute change, as even her original audition sheets had her being depicted as being this evil CEO type, which honestly would have been better, given she at least would have been honest.
>>154220497Those frenchies and their disturbing sexual fantasies of femboys
>>154220516I think the current character makes too much sense. Her and Vaggie are both sociopaths that see themselves and each other as better than the rest.
>>154220516She’s clearly from Heaven. She reeks of their hypocrisy.
Guys, last week at Adam's party, Emily grabbed my crotch and went "Honk honk!". I've been pretty torn up about it, but I finally worked up the courage to come out about this incident.
>>154220496Lute confessed to Adam what she was before heading off into battle in Season 1.
>>154220514Adam has always been like this. Eve was the first corrupted person and he stood by her.
>>154220543It’s why Carmilla is clearly another ex-Angel. Only Zestial knows.
>>154220559Abel. Tell your dad about her.
Remember when Vaggie was supposed to be El Salvadoran? Lol
>>154220589and a moth like sinner.
>>154220575I don’t think Zestial knows what she is or she knows who Zestial really is. I don’t even think Zestial originally dated her for her, just for the weapons she stored up.
>>154220589I think she’s a weaboo type who loves South American culture.
>>154220599 I think in an act of deep trust she told Zestial after a very long time. They’ve been together forever,
>>154220577He called me a fag :(
>>154220594They can still work in the moth theme in season 3, with her raising them as pets.
>>154220559What are you, gay?
>>154220671I didn’t know Val is getting adopted
>>154219887Holy meltdown
>We see a glimpse of Adam>It seems like he’s a sinner now because of how monster-like it looks>Finale shows off what Abel and Lute truly look like. They look like monster Adams.>Adam appears and the halo floats back to his head.
>>154215318Lots of content creators post here. SBA works in the industry and shouts out /co/ on her twitter. Ian JQ, Lauren Faust, etc have had posts. Daria and Ashley though? I want to say this was a larper but August 2019? Hazbin was not the juggernaut it was pre pilot release. The typing style could read as sincere but it's hard to say. I could believe it. I 100 percent believe they still post as anon.
>>154220724It might make him less likely to try to murder her. Her kindness to ordinary moths.
>>154219887Speaking of which, I've had a sudden realization. I think Charlie is the daughter of Lucifer and Lilith. has anyone else noticed this?
>>154220807How so?
>>154214007This would be such a lame ass twist, omg.
>>154220762Sinner Adam x Demon Form Lute is my dream. Redeemed through love. Dirty secrets of Heaven revealed.
>>154215727
>>154220807I would consider her a daughter of Lilith simply because Lilith wanted to take care of her. Viv did say something about adoption or whatnot being a theme.
>>154220818Lute’s just a demon raised in Heaven and passing for Angel.
>>154220826The green post is actually about the monster Adam being a new winner form.
>>154220827The final victory of Alastor over Adam is bedding his son.
>>154220837Maybe she was an imp.
>>154220810The matching hair and skin of Lucifer, her eyes look more like Lilith's along with her forcefulness.
>>154220655The hallucination of Adam doesn’t count
>>154220855except he doesn't expect the uno-reversal and gets his dussy obliterated the same way adam got him in their fight. >alastor lying in bed completely cockbroken, asexuality eradicated>'what just happened? fffuck...'
>>154220860I love that. It explains her rage and love of rock music. Lute is a heavily altered Imp, changed through Heaven’s powers slicing her up.
>>154220883Well Abel IS fat so he has a lot of humping power. Like a soft freight train.
>>154220508>This meme template image with happy human Adam holding Abel >Adam becomes sad because Eve said it isn’t his son
>>154220904No MatPat. Cain is not Zestial.
>>154220887You know Abel and Adam are based on the dragon guy from the concepts?Imps are the only hellborns in Hell based on a dragon demon.
>>154220918Now I want to see art of Lute in a self-loathing tall Imp form.
>>154220931The only issue with it is Lute’s hair. Female imps have black hair.
>>154220860>she's a greed shark
>>154221020That’s a cast member’s self-insert
>>154221020Ahh yes, the cute shark lady.
>>154220996I laughed my butt at this. It’s a one piece reference!
>Lute is actually a Imp and Geotia mixed breed.
>>154220914That would actually be a great twist.
MatPat is being retarded again.
If Lute does turn out to be a Hellborn, will Lucifer and Satan be pissed about it?
I want to see handsome strong human men stick their big penises in Emilys holes
>>154221104So does Emily
>>154221104Sera
>>154221063Possible, raised by Heaven and desperate for Adam to love her. When he becomes a Sinner, they marry.
>>154221063>lute is blitzo and stolas' lovechild, helluva boss was a prequel the whole time.
>>154221104>"So glad you volunteered, Anon."
>>154221095Not really. It’s kinda obvious with Cain being the first human Eve birthed and Zestial being the oldest sinner in Hell. The theming Zestial has does fit a lot with Cain though.
Which of you morons encouraged MatPat's retardation? Stop talking to the guy.
>>154221137Zestial is too weak to be Cain
Zestial is the current powerful overlord that's living. It's in the playbill. There were others before him.
>>154221155Cain would be the evil morty of Hazbin hotel. A little angsty bitch. Zestial turning out to be Cain would be a debuff of his coolness. But he is a sinner and all sinners are pathetic people.
Who even came up with the idea of Caine being Zestial? Jesus that's retarded
>>154221179It’s current because he’s still alive and in power. He could be Cain and still lose the oldest Overlord status as a sinner by stepping down or worse.
>>154221199That's MatPat for you. There's a reason we make fun of the guy and don't take him seriously.
>>154221213You're pulling my leg right? That's such a bad reading. That's as bad as that one chick who said lutes voice actor was confirming she was a demon with the devil emoji to the Lute being Eve tweet.
>>154221199It was the normies. They did it when Abel got a character reveal. I don’t like it, but it makes sense and is kinda expected by the whole Lilith Eve plotline.The best hope is to hope Viv makes them scary instead of making sad and misunderstood.
Who the fuck even wants Cain, an ancient human to be some sinner loser from the 16the century. The fuck
>>154221263The retard we call MatPat. He's literally the only guy peddling this shit in the thread.
>>154221250It doesn't make sense. And it's not expected? The Lilith Eve plotline is fanon.
>>154221269How lame. I know Viv is brain dead. But she's not this brain dead.
>>154221245Anon, Cain obviously wouldn’t be the first sinner in Hell. He could’ve been involved with constructing the pride ring cities, saw the rise of overlords, and become one himself because it was NEW TREND.LMAO
>>154221270You're talking to the resident Schizo. You're wasting your time and breath on him. He won't understand.
>>154221183Cain would be like 6k years old, he would basically be a bored immortal not skme scheming bastard
>>154221294Oof. Got it. Thanks. Why doesn't he post this shit on Twitter?
>>154221295Zestial is a bored immortal. Remember?
>>154221306His twitter did get leaked a couple of times. He usually deletes it after we post it here. But he talks about the same thing on twitter and Reddit.
>>154221331Magic man
What if Cain was a red herring?
Stop engaging with him. If you need to talk about MatPat make a non reply post were you talk about him using the third person. Otherwise ignore.
>>154221346Got it.
>>154221339Yup
>>154221346I, Matpat, have been ignoring them because they derail the threads by throwing fits about me.
>>154221339https://youtu.be/AZTo3iJng7U by Heart?
>>154221263Zestial isn’t confirmed to be from the 16th century. He’s themed to the period. For all we know, he calls it the SIXTIES.
Oh yeah.... In that A24 interview Viv was definitely talking about Alastor being Lucifer, Zestial being Cain, Rosie being Lilith, Lilith being Eve theories... Rosie and Lute have been said to be set up for reveals. Rosie specifically was said by Viv that we're going to find out more about next season and how she is so powerful. Given that she had to specify that no two physically different characters are the same character, my money is that she is absolutely a fallen angel of some kind. I actually would not be surprised if she's one of the elders that cast out Lucifer or something.
>>154221762Viv said most of those theories are wrong because they were spammed endlessly. It doesn’t mean you know which ones are true or not.
>>154222026Those were the theories that were spammed endlessly.
Who is most likely to get fat?
>>154222046No
>>154222046Charlie.
>>154222041No. There is a lore more identity theories than you think. There’s Niffty is Eve. Niffty is Roo. Rosie is Roo. Rosie is Eve. Lilith is Roo.
>>154222215That's even better. I also do remember the Lilith being Rosie and Rosie being Lilith shit. I'm glad it's dying down.
>>154222046Adam canonically.
>>154222269He's already fat though. So you're saying he'd get even fatter?
>>154222046Go back to trash, keno.
>>154222292If he becomes a Sinner and indulges his gluttony? Totally.
>>154222309Sinner Adam should die. So overhyped. Let me guess, you love Fallen Emily too
>>154222251I would assume the only thing that could be true is wifeswap. Mainly cause Viv is a Disney girl and season 3 seems the most Disney like. The evil step mother.
>>154222333No. Wife swap it shit.
If we're talking Disney, it'd be actually more on brand for Lilith to be the evil mom, while Rosie is her Fairy godmother. The nail in the coffin for this retarded plot is that Lucifer doesn't deny she's always been like this. This was not a new abrupt change.
>>154222353Would Wifeswap be fine if it turns out that the real Liltih is still evil and will encourage Lucifer to do their own acts of rebellion.
>>154222380Fuck the wife swap. Lilith has probably always been as bad as Adam. Lucifer has to come to terms with that. Is she 100% evil? No, I don't think so, it seems like she's one of Viv's favorites, very Queen, independent need no man. Man. But she does apparently have a lot of flaws according to Charlie herself, Lucifer and a lot of other characters. Lucifer learning that they're just not compatible anymore, if they ever even were. Rosie looks too much like Lucifer to be his wife in disguise. I'm betting she's either a creation of Lilith herself, a fallen angel, one of the elders/siblings that kicked Lucifer out hence calling herself Auntie Rosie...
>>154222371I thought Rosie would be Eve in the flashback and/or Charlie’s surrogate mother, but the trading card prevents that.
>>154222407The trading card is just Lilith. People want it to be Eve, but pilot era Lilith has this exact same hairstyle. And a couple of others actually
>>154222438Also given that """"Eve""""" in Charlie's book looks like that same Lilith, combined with the fact that Charlie got this information from her dad, on top of the fact that this book was written most likely recently because it mentions the exterminations.. This has Lucifer all over it.
>>154222438The pilot era is the source of the wifeswap leaks though.
>>154222455Did it have the exterminations?
>>154222197she'll get fatter filled with adam's babies and will compete with lute for the biggest bump>>154222292he will also be pregnant
>>154222460Pilot era streams and before had Lilith drawn this way.. There's even one where Lilith looks like a combo of the eve puppet and Emily. This was always just Lilith. She's always called her Lilith. She's never mentioned Eve. Eve only ever became a thing for the series much like Adam did. The past artwork of Lilith reinforces the fact that she's just Lilith.
>>154222476Charlie's book? Yes. Did you not watch the first episode?
>Eve does turn out to being behind the Lilith disguise>The plot is just as stupid everyone thinks>The fanbase does try to damage control it >There are multi-hour essays on why this show sucks because of the twist >There are piles of cucked Adam fanart being printed out
>>154222479Princess of Hell couldn’t resist Sinner Adam’s big body.
I approve of cucked Adam. He deserves it.
>>154222479But who impregnates Adam? Lucifer?
>>154222513I did. I’m just confused why it would have it.Then again, it does reflect the brilliance of the yaoi writers.
>>154222535god no get that creep away from adam. alastor obvs.
If the Eve Lilith thing was always something in place (it most likely wasn't because Eve's name never came up,) then it's really weird that Viv always referred to this character as Lilith for several years. Someone on Twitter proposed about Lilith and Eve switched way back during the Garden days, and Eve effectively took over Lilith, as in. That's the identity she took, while the real Lilith did her own thing as Rosie. Which is stupid because in that case, just call yourself Eve? And yes, this person proposes that Lilith, who is the eve that took the Apple, gave birth to Charlie, fell in love with Lucifer, raised Charlie. For all intents and purposes, she's Lilith. That's an even stupider variation of this theory. I've heard. It doesn't work. Doesn't work in any capacity.
It would be so very much in character for Lucifer to realize how kind of messed up Lilith is, how distant and emotionally abusive she is, that at some point they broke up, and in order for him to cope and to give Charlie a mom, he made Rosie. She's a carbon copy of what he thought Lilith was going to be like. But she probably fucked off two because nobody can handle his needy annoying pathetic ass.
I'm still super confused by what E meant when she said that she thinks Lilith is Rosie. That's really fucking weird. That's another reason why this whole thing doesn't convince me
>>154222588Yeah I know, based on everything that's been said and seen from the supposed employees, this really just seems like something that was proposed as a loose idea, that's why nothing was cemented. When these leaks got passed down, people put their own spin on it: Roo corrupting Eve, which was never said in the original leaks. Lilith being Rosie in disguise, which was also not for sure said. Think there was some confusion among all this. It's just a really bad game of telephone. But because that fan interpretations have been around for so long, that's just what people accept. Season 3 is going to make or break a lot of theorizing finally.
>>154222566Actually though ,,,,,,
>>154222546Even Adam needs a good D at times.
>>154222618>Season 3 is going to make or break a lot of theorizing finally.Or it's going to create a whole new breed?
So why didn't Vox invite Rosie to the whole Overlord thing he was doing? Taking over heaven?
>>154222746Rosie would have kicked his ass
>>154222553Viv is hyped up about Lilith and Roo for years. And she always wanted to tell the story of season 3 for years. If it is the big twist of the story she wouldn’t ever want it spoiled.
>>154222514Sounds cringe.
>>154222523Lucifer stop posting here and run your kingdom
>>154222746mad that rosie got deer bussy
>>154222535Gross
>>154222713S3 coming out and having nothing related to any of our speculation and all the new material is surprising would be impressive. Not really a guarantee it's gonna be good but at least we'll be surprised.
>>154222910The ultimate cucking from Viv.
Rosie a cute
>>154223093Rosie loves you
>>154222670he couldn't kill adam but maybe he could give him an impressive la petit mort.
>>154223093Indeed.
Why do people want to fuck up Rosie by making he Lilith.
>>154223196Because that would make Lilith a good nice mom.
>>154223250She’s making cannibal town. The Hazbin hotel ultimately will screw her over.
>>154223283Expound.
>>154223326Think of it this way. Cannibal town would be a serious project Lilith worked on before Charlie was ever relevant. To show she could make a kingdom on her own without Heaven and their order. The rings of hell themselves are pretty much made with this in mind with the sins taking the role of the Gods and the hellborns being made in their image.The Hazbin Hotel is the biggest hole in the entire hell ship. Like imagine if not only can sinners be redeemed but the hell borns too.
>>154223374Oh, nevermind. I thought this was about Rosie not being Lilith.
>>154223374... what
do you think Winners get to fuck angels or not?
>>154223454The Abel one seems to think so
>>154223454Winners are angels. If you mean if they get to fuck heavenborn, then yes. Adam fucks one of the virtues.
>>154223407Rosie to me is a handler of one of Lilith’s projects. So she honors Lilith and her family.
>>154223619She looks more related to the morningstars/lucifer rather than looking like a wife
>>154223650Wife you say? Alastor would be perfect for her.
>>154223686HELPPPPPP WHY IS THIS SO ACCURATE
>>154223686>Adam comes back.>He decides to replace Lute to keep her away from violence.>We get a Meg.
>>154223733>>154223736
>>154223777This Adam looks cool
>>154223686Lucifer would also be the chicken and the Mayor is Sera lmao
>>154223196Because I don't think people can handle the prospect that Lilith isn't this perfect mom, that she is probably the complete opposite of that.
>>154223832The monkey is Cain.
>>154223900Bonnie is Lilith
>>154223912Who’s Bonnie
>>154223896Yeah, season 2 makes it clear that Lilith has always been like this. If there was any mention that she had changed abruptly before leaving, then yes, things get suspicious. What I've heard is that, as a counter-argument, people say that Eve has been shape-shifting as Lilith for a long time to the point where she was the one raising Charlie, but then you wonder how Lucifer didn't notice. For how moronic he is, which he is, Lilith is like the one thing he would not play around with, he would see or sense something. Not only that, this means the switch happened however many thousands of years ago. Fuck. So to then say oh the Lilith that we've come to know and become familiar with is actually another person entirely. And the Lilith that we thought was in her place was never even the one that raised Charlie, and she's been over here dicking around? Yeahhhh that would land so bad.
>>154223921Joe Swanson's wife. The one who's always having some sort of rivalry with Lois.
>>154223929The only way I've seen an identity/ character switch work successfully is in The Wolf Among Us. Which even then is different circumstances: we become familiar with both of the characters, we get endeared to both of them, and you understand why they had to switch in the first place. With the Lilith and Eve thing, not only does it not fit timeline wise, but you are putting down one woman to elevate the other, no matter if the bad one is Lilith or if the good one is Eve or vice versa.
>>154223962Yeah, in my case, I would rather much see Lilith change her ways, rather than it be revealed. Revealed oh, all the time she did something bad. It was because of some evil doppelganger. That is so backwards and lame. At least with the Lilith being trapped in her necklace, at least there she had no choice, but if she's Rosie? Then she's had a front row seat to everything bad that's been happening to her daughter and the hotel and she still chooses not to step in, and it'll be excused as, ' I had to let you do this on your own' so then she still looks like a bad mom regardless. Yikes.
>>154223986What if Lilith’s soul is inside of that necklace.
wifeswap also makes whatever plan either wife had stupidly based on pure luck. it's pure luck that vaggi rebelled and met charlie and helped support her dream to build the hotel. it's pure luck that carmilla kills an exorcist, triggering the accelerated extermination. it's pure luck that while charlie calls on adam to be spared, niffty kills him. way too much shit that they couldn't possibly have accounted for, unless literally none of it matters to their plans either way.
>>154224271I literally address that in my comment.
>>154224277It also gets confusing because it implies that Rosie willingly worked with this doppleganger, knowing they had a plan and she just allowed it to happen? It's stupid.
>>154224359It all depends on what Rosie wanted and what the dealer offered.
>>154224374Not really. She'd look like a bad mom regardless.
Eughhhhh let the stupid ass Rosie Eve Lilith shit DIE
>>154224410It will never dieIt’s the mean topic till the final episode of season 3
>>154224423Then im gonna hope season three buries it.
>>154224443It's probably gonna bury it like an undertaker.
>>154224443It will grow like a tree
>>154224443Fingers crossed for Lute Eve. That's all I gaf abt
has s3 entered production yet or nah
>>154224525Honestly it's the best option out of all the alternatives.
>>154224541Season three has been done recording. Season 4 was said to have been almost done recording 6 months ago, so I assume they've been done. Same as the music. I think they've just been animating?
>>154224551I think so too, and a lot more straightforward
>>154224565This year is helluva boss season 3 part 1. Next year is Hazbin season 3.
>>154224644But I need to know who Eve is NOW
>>154225494You have to be patient. Or break into spindle horse's studio.
Alastor needs to get fat.
>>154225776Not happening. Viv dislikes fat people.
>>154225776by being pregnant with adam's babies
>>154225776Alastor would not be attractive to me either skinny or fat.
>>154225893Alastor really will do anything for power.
>>154225797But she is fat.
