>>154216518
Whys that nigga dressed up like a piñata

>>154216518
western comics and cartoons haven't evolved past the 50s

>>154216542
He can summon items from receipts, so keeps them all right there ready to tear off and use. Also he's a crazy reincarnated sorcerer.

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>>154216518
>shonen
Why can you retards ever criticize anything without it always boiling down to either powerscale wank, east vs west, or "NUH UH!"?

>>154216542
Because shonen is fucking retarded. But it's Japanese, so we're supposed to pretend it's not stupid as hell for some reason.

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>>154216545
>western comics and cartoons haven't evolved past the 50s
Comicbook fights have devolved if anything, at least before there was some creativity.

>>154216518
Because they're based on the medium with THE worst fight scene history.

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>>154216611
I love Silver-Age Stupidity.

>>154216596
>comapring a western shonen with an eastern shonen to see why the other one fails at fighting choreography
Now, jjk is pretty meh as well but even that looks good when compared to invincible. Would it have been better if he compared it with an older capeshit show like dcau, which also had better choreography?
>>154216611
Kinda true, some older comics had so much more movement and creativity.

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>>154216518
>why is a character who can only punch things just punching things

Viltrimites are boring. They're strip down boring versions of kryptonians. The one thing I do like about their boring haymaker fights is that it does feel like 2 super powered individuals trading blows that can knock down cities everytime they connect. Meaty and crunchy.

>>154216758
You could still add more choreography and better sound effects.

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>>154216727
A good fight is like a conversation. It's all about the back and forth between the fighters, it needs action and reaction punching, blocking, recoiling, countering, and adapting to what the other person does.

Too many artists nowadays treat fights like an afterthought: a page of Batman effortlessly beating goons, or a big splash page where everyone is frozen in place like someone took a photo in the middle of the fight.

Very few comic book writers and artist now a day make the fight a story into itself instead of just a stepping stone for a bigger story

>>154216818
By western standards, sure. By anime standards the damage done by viltrumite haymakers is kinda low tier superstrength.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVwODkGDmCs

>>154216542
That undersells how silly he is, he's actually covered in receipt paper

>>154216518
>using JJK to demonstrate good fight scenes
AHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>154216518
because the fights in western comic books are bad

>>154216611
True
>>154216518
Invincible sucks, it only had one decent season one

>>154216604
>>154216596
Redditors

>>154217225
In comparison to invincible? Yes. Fucking little girls shoujo anime has better fights than it.

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>>154216885
You sound one of those dex > str fags

>>154217376
Viltrumites have both strength and dexterity. Strength can be portrayed in a more interesting way, hell the 1st season of Invincible had a few better fighting scenes

That's cherry picking like the one guy with a fun ability in JJK

>>154216596
>Why are you comparing eastern media for teenagers to western media for teenagers?
It's a mystery.

>>154216518
Art aint a valued thing in the west

>>154216518
Their powers and skills aren't that fleshed out or important. They are sluggers who can move stupid fast. Literally no need to know how to properly fight because they move so fast and hit so hard. They arent going to have dbz martial arts bouts. Just a different kind of story.

>>154216596
Even ignoring shonen, invincible has pretty bad fight scenes majority of the time. Even shows meant for kids like Ben 10 or Jackie chan adventures are more experimental in their fight scenes.

>>154217214
That's excatly what i said i hate seeing. It looked pretty and there was a lot of dancing but there was no brutality or hard contact. Are you retarded?

>>154217666
>there was no brutality or hard contact.
Nta but you are fucking stupid, Satan. That was the point of the fight. Saitama is so insanely fast and strong that Geno's can't even touch him.

>>154217214
>Dbz explosions where the only thing that gets destroyed are sand dunes and rocks

Wow so powerful

>>154217697
Don't care nigger. It was a ballerina dance with twinks dancing around each other. Pick a better example

No one ever posts actually good western animated fight scenes in these threads, they just nitpick the anime ones to make it seem like they're just as bad

>>154217731
>It was a ballerina dance
This is how gods fight.

>>154217748
They exist, but not in Invincible, since that would require decent animation and choreography, neither or which are present in Invincible.

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>>154217748
There are good cartoon fights but most of them would be called anime shit by these anti anime newfags

>>154217587
Is funny you say that, but I think most people throught the ages realize a story about guys punching each other with little technique or skill gets boring fast. Think of Hercules his legend could just be a parade of him just killing his enemies in one punch but instead you have him using his brain to solve problem he can't punch away.
>How do I kill a lion inmune to phisical damage
>How do I hunt this super fast birds made of metal
>How do I clean the filthiest stables in the universe.
All this are challenges that require more that just punching. Even the quest that he could easily fight his way out have twist that just him punching good

>>154217793
Live action Graviton being shoved to a tv show and never getting theatrical chance in avengers was horseshit.

>>154217714
And? In invincible they fight like 2 drunkards even though they are supposed to be able to erase life on other planets

>>154216758
Punching can be fun, the problem is Viltrumites don't really take advantage of them having basically the ability to pivot and turn on a dime. Yeah they have some interesting things like the Viltrumite handshake but most of the time they fight with pretty much like a generic flying bricks. Imagine if they fought more like this https://youtu.be/vdONaPoOvuw? In the official show and comics, using the fact they can create leverage almost anywhere and pivoting anywhere, they would be so tricky to fight.

>>154216818
>>154217666
The season 2+ invincible fights have pretty garbage sound design which makes them feel weightless .

>>154216518
Skibidibump

>>154216518
Vultrimites are really inconsistent, tbey are suppose to be so strong they can solo a planet but also weak enoght they are constantly scheming and seding others to do their dirth work.

>>154216518
Guy who created the video is going to be very disapppointed with how the main villain of Jujutsu Kaisen gets defeated

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>>154216596
do you want us to post the fight scenes from Slice-of-Life Moe when comparing them?
Because we could.

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>>154216545
Hey! There are still some great fight scenes from back then that hold up today.

>>154217832
Why didn't they just animate the show like this? Every cutscene I've seen from this game looks miles ahead of the garbage Prime cartoon and that's saying something since I like 2d animation more

>>154219864
>actually portraying movement instead of poses
Good choice. In this way this 50s comic >>> current ones

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>>154216518
>strategic

>>154216758
But they don't even punch things all that well.
It is all spectacle from scale rather than actual choreography.
Even though Viltrumites sorta use boxing techniques, there is remarkably little advanced boxing options, and it doesn't really utilize the three dimensional movement in the combat.

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>>154216818
If mark had precognition, even that alone would go a long way in diversifying the fights, maybe like midnighter in the authority

>>154219911
I'm not sure if this makes it better or worse, but these comic strips were created in the 30s.

>>154219889
Money. They're too busy wasting and embezzling it

>>154216596

Because going from JJK to Invincible gave people complete whiplash.

Incredible voice acting, animation and decent action to the most complete dogshit production despite the budget being higher.

>>154216518
>Why are the fights in Invincible so bad?
idk maybe throwing flying brick at flying brick and then doing zero choreography makes for shitty fight scenes when stacked on top of hollow character motivations and philosophical rivalries

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>>154217587
Kinnikuman was literally just a strong guy fighting a bunch of dudes with crazy powers, but they still manage to make his fights very creative and interesting.
And this was back before battle manga had much framework to go by.
Having a basic tool kit doesn't necessitate a character's fights to be boring.

>>154217225
this

>>154216518
Invincible is so bad full stop. Robert Kirkman is a hack

All I know about JJK is big fight scenes and incest.

>>154220226
that's all you need baby

JJK's fights aren't that good either. God I'm so tired of all the unearned praise that mediocre Bleach ripoff gets for doing the bare minimum

>>154216518
it's hard not to do a east good, west bad thing when westerners don't appreciate how complex things in life are
this is in all western media
westerners tend to oversimplify things too much then try to make it sound more complex than it is and it results in uninteresting characters, fight scenes, power sets and the like
so you'll have characters whose powers are being strong, flying and punching hard, but have no specific fighting style
a character who runs really fast, and that's just it
a character who can create anything they can imagine, but it's always some weak unimaginative trash
an archer who has no specific style of archery and just has trick arrows
spiderman is a good example of a western character that doesn't suffer from this , because he has a specific fighting style and movement style which makes his fights very interesting to see

>>154220267
I think that's the entire point, even jjk has better fights than invincible. That's how sad it is.

>JJK
Always, ALWAYS, JJK gets compared to with everything. Why.
How is this show so popular with the zoomers when it literally has no sustenance. The story isn't riveting, the characters are cardboard, and the worldbuilding is non-existent.
The fights are the only thing decent but the powersystem is also generic. That doesn't explain how this show is that popular.

>>154216518
I dont give a shit. I'm not watching anime.

>>154220385
the anime
it's why demon slayer was taking the world by storm

>>154220385
>>154220479
>Always, ALWAYS, JJK gets compared to with everything. Why.
Both invincible and jjk are recent action shows made for teenagers. Are you autistic? It's not hard at all to understand why they get compared.

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>>154220385
Basically it's because of hype moments and aura.
Everyone admits that JJK is a very flawed story, it's very popular because the author has a talent for creating hype. That's why JJK has so many meme edits for stuff like pic related or "Nah, I'd win". Everyone knows the latter half of JJK is kind of bad but the story is really hype.

>>154220385
It's just the currently most popular action anime vs. the currently most popular (read: only) action cartoon, it's not that weird.

Jjk is retarded anyway. All their fights boil down to is who has a stronger bs asspull.

>>154220680
I've watched a little of that video and in terms of choreography as in punches and shit the anime one looked better, Idc about "strategy asspull" garbage but invincible should diversify its movements.

>>154220279
Here's how I see it.
Boxing title bouts. You watch any of the greatest boxing title bouts and even casual fans can be able to identify what makes them good. The psychological element, that struggle for control over the rhythm of the fight, those highlight moments where you can absolutely see tables turning like a well landed uppercut combo just leaving one of the two wobbled or when one guy's hook manages to connect a split second before the other's.

Stuff like Ali having to strategize on the fly against Foreman, Sugar Ray Leonard and Thomas Hearn playing mind games with each other, or (for as controversial as the fight was), Buster Douglas getting back up aa you see him progressively gain more and more confidence against Mike fucking Tyson.

That, that is the core of a good fight scene. Add all the choreography you want but it should feel like the two characters are genuinely clashing in both body and mind.

If it's too synchronized and pretty, it's just a dance. If it lacks choreography, it's not much of a scene. You need that element.

>>154220728
Invincible is a series of flying bricks. Or a dude with a gun that can shoot those bricks. The choreography is pretty good and at least comes with the fact that it isnt japshit.

>>154220948
>Invincible is a series of flying bricks.
And? You can still add choreography to that. There are many many series with flying bricks that have good fight scenes like stas
>at least comes with the fact that it isnt japshit.
It isn't japkino either. Not that much of an anime watcher but invincible isn't nearly as good as the ones I that I liked

>>154217793
Funny, I was thinking of that exact fight as a good example when I posted that
Gonna watch EMH again now

>>154216596
>My Opinion is better then yours>>154216818

>>154217793
>DCAU
>Ruined by hitflashes to suck up the censors.

>>154221019
If you like japshit you're a gay retard to begin with and have no say on the quality of a western cartoon

>>154221082
Meanwhile the actual western cartoon directors and writers like anime. Invincible itself has people in the staff that like anime. It's weird how the fans are like this when their own idols don't agree with them.

>>154216518
anime fights only seem strategic because they break the fights pacing every 30 seconds to deliver a 2 minute monologue on how they're gonna counter their enemies attacks

>>154221107
Well the staff are gay retards too. If they stopped liking Japanese anime I'm sure the quality of the show would only go up.

>>154220385
Okay what should we be comparing Invincible to then? This never seems to get answered

>>154216518
This guy has been spamming the board with dumb takes. Invicible Comics has some good stuff, but I just don't get why people engage with these dumbass takes.

>>154221168
So you hate the guys that have created all of the shows you like?

>>154221218
They are secondary to the show itself being entertaining.

>>154221189
>Invicible Comics has some good stuff
the cartoon still looks pretty shitty and has a huge problem with choreography, how is that a dumb take?

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>>154216518
Because they fight like assholes. All they do is throw their weight around and most of the intrigue of their combat comes from the gore thereof and not from any sort of cool exchanges.

>>154221218
Well he is from the cartoon side of the board, they aren't exactly known for their excellent taste in media like the comic side

>>154221246
>Funimation

Geez get the Kineko Video film scan

>>154221246
I now realize my post is useless as the question was about writing and not art direction.
Killing myself post-now.

>>154221231
Only on /co/ I could hear such retarded zoomer opinions. Your generation is doomed.

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>>154221246
Wrong. It comes from the sheer scale.

I don't get the repeated posts insinuating you can't have choreography when showing two genetically powerful bricks fighting.

>>154221107
Yet they fail to get it right, even Japan sucks now since the digital era and after they stopped using strobbling lights (unfortunately)

>>154221189
Is he worse then Tranny Smith, Famicom, FatFag or JudgeDoomHomo?

>>154221291
Lemme know when i should give a shit about japslop

>>154221303
At least not when Jeff Bezos is funding it. Then they spend the money on has-been voice actors

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>>154221304
>ow since the digital era
The digital era started in the 00s and there were a a lot of great action anime in that era. Moribito had cool spear fights, Sword of the stranger had one of the greatest fights ever, there was that anime(I forgot its name) that hired chinese HK directors to help them implement those moves in animation etc. Webm related is from a recent anime. Compare it with invincible

>>154221301
that's cool but the fights itself are disappointing. the planet destroying or the flaxan genocide were neat, yet most of the hand to hand fights are pretty meh.

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>>154221351
Looks like shit compared to even one punch from thragg

>>154221326
There are so many gimmick posters. Some of them have the same MO, which makes me think that some of them are the same person.

>>154221231
>they may have taken inspiration from their shows, so it doesn't affect the shows they make!
Wow.
I don't like anime either, but you are truly ignorant and close-minded. You've never heard of the word "influence?"
Just say you don't like anime and be done with it.
You are type of anon that is truly killing this board's discussion. You are the same as OP making these bait threads.

>>154221408
Yeah only took 4 seasons. Plus, would you really call that a fight?

>>154221408
That was the only decent looking one and it doesn't even look that impressive. Now post the actual sluggish boring viltrumites vs viltrumites fights.

>>154221408
It's real funny that you hate japslop, but you are praising gookslop. When they are practically the same thing. Practice what you preach. You like the very thing you hate.

>>154221351
That looks great(but a little gay). Source?

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>>154221460
Ill one up you and post atom eve being more cool than anything anime could ever try to do.

>>154216518
What's the fighting in space strategy?

>>154216542
He can redeem the reciepts

>>154221502
>posting the cherrypicked special because eve is extremely boring in the rest of the series, still looks less interesting than Tsukikage Ran, which is just a random ova
Lmao

This black dude who's obsessed with Invincible lives up to literally every single stereotype.

>>154221502
...may I see it?

>>154221502
This is literally animated in Korea. You might as well be posting animeshit.
Should've posted something from an actual western show you tourist.

>>154217666
>>154217714
I mean, if you want to see people getting punched there are plenty of other options.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e15OeeUr1_0

Objectively not as strong as a viltrumite, but damn do these punches feel more satisfying when they hit. This is what superstrength is supposed to feel like.

>>154221502
OK that was actually the best fight and it pains me that there aren't more like it. As >>154221301 pointed out alot of the other fights only focus on scale and less on the intimate parts of the fight
>"Look at Conquest break this MASSIVE pink wall!"
>"Look at this HUGE crater Anissa made!"
>"Isn't this MEGA ULTRA SUPER punch from Mark so rad?!"
While initially cool for like a second, it loses it's luster then it just gets boring.

>>154221591
>invincible is now an anime according to weebs
So why do you guys have a problem with it?

>>154221621
Because it's shit? If invincible was an /a/ series most people would shit on it.

>>154221621
Because the fights suck. What did you think this thread was about?

>>154221621
Gooks and japs are the same thing. You are praising the same thing you hate. Both of them are shit. A real western cartoon fan would post something better, you are a tourist and not a real fan.
Learn to read the room.

>>154221654
>A real western cartoon fan would post something better,
Nta but you have to got 60 years back to reach non outsourced cartoons.

>>154221663
>Nta but you have to got 60 years back to reach non outsourced cartoons.
Exactly.
The anon who is posting these Invincible clips is just a tourist who doesn't know anything at all about comics and cartoons. He is the weeb here.

>>154221504
The trick to fighting in space is delta v. There's no drag, things don't naturally slow down on their own, you have to expend energy to change velocity.
Viltrumites don't need to worry about fuel, but they do still have to work around momentum. Space combat between two viltrumites should be about going as fast as you can and trying to use momentum to trap your opponent into movements that are strategically disadvantageous but changing their course requires them to briefly slow down enough that they become a sitting duck. Leaving them to make a snap decision between two bad options while you control the tempo of the fight against them.

But that would require a level of creativity that should be obvious but Invincible can't manage. Like, the fight above planet viltrum had a golden opportunity to use orbits in the fight but didn't do so. Like, imagine if tech jacket had fired a dart, missed, and then baited a Viltrumite into a specific spot a few minutes later to get struck by the dart as it came back around as they didn't see it coming. Tech Jacket's computer would have been an easy explanation for that precise level of prediction, its not complex math, and lets you do something that catches a Viltrumite by surprise for a sudden reversal.

>>154216888
Honestly also proves the classic narrator is pretty good when done right. With fights anime tends to actually treat the fight as what it is, and many talk about how in a way the fight is just as thematic as the talking as you said anon it's a conversation. So they really use it and build the weight of it usually tying back other scenes or moments as well.

Really speaking of afterthought and stepping stone I remember a comic that had a tournament arc and they literally set it up as super important then skipped many of the fights with talking and then the final match was only half of one issue it was crazy what was even the point of making it a fight if the heroes win or lose that fast. In fact they realized how bad it was then in the next issue the heroes win by saying "uhhh the villain cheated" and it completely invalidates the fight and concept. Not like they goaded the villain into cheating just they did and that was it. We didn't even see them cheating as the audience just found an easy way to excuse the hero's loss.

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>>154221697
I hate anime. I dont watch anime. Its garbage.

>>154221752
You are posting GOOKshit, which may as well be the same as animeSHIT.
Weeb tourist. Should post something actually animated in the WEST. If you don't understand that, you are zoomer who has no idea what he's talking about.

>>154221752
His point is both invincible and anime outsources their shit to Korea

>>154221780
Still not going to watch anime fag.

>>154221842
>assuming im a weebfag
>proceeds to act like an idiot
>ignores my statements
Yup, yup. You are a retarded weeb tourist who doesn't like comics and cartoons. Go back to /a/.
I accept your defeat and concession.

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>>154221882
Anime is garbage

>>154221894
The SHITvincible fag can't appreciate stuff like this

>>154221894
This is what that faggot Invincible poster should've posted instead.

>>154216518
I went to watch some DCAU animations to see why they never got the complaints about superman having bad fight scenes and I think the biggest problem is that Viltrumites and other strong characters hit their opponents way too hard and send them flying too often, it's less a fight and more really powerful game of tag. In DCAU, when strong characters fight they are just treated as regular melee fights but on a more destructive scale. Yes Superman will punch his opponents through some buildings but there are also situations where he will run up to someone and throw hands like it's a regular fight, just that the environment is more brittle. Viltrumite fights in invincible on the other hand tend to have opponents flying at most hits. Seriously all they need to do to fix this is just space out the haymakers and super punches with more typical melee fighting. Crazy part is that they know this. The first fight on thraxa was decent

I like that guy on youtube who breaks down Dragon Ball fights like they are boxing or UFC matches. It's pretty cool how even in parts of the animation that just flash by at super speed for a second and are mostly just meant to instill the sense of the speed they are fighting at that, it is still grounded in martial arts fundamentals. There's also stuff like characters having sygnature tactics or blink and you miss it callbacks to earlier fights, and stuff like that. You can tell the animators really gave a shit back then. It's something a lot of modern sakuga animation segments don't get.

>>154221962
The invincible fights are not even "sakuga" they are just... there... they feel weightless. I don't need them to be on par with the best of the old classics but why can't they be as good as even modern shit like >>154221351

>>154221752
>>154221913
is this spinning PNG and this fan-animation supposed to make Invincible look good, retard?

>>154221913
>ran out of decent looking invincible stuff
>has to post fan animations
KEK, you can't make this shit up.

>>154221997
Invincible fights definitely don't have sakuga. And their biggest problems is they go for shock value more than anything else which takes away the story telling aspect of it. For every decent Mark fight where he's getting his ass kicked before steeling his resolve and mounting a comeback (formulaic but still technically a story told) there's a bunch that are back and forth slamming into each other followed by a shock spear hand.

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Never watching jjk sorry

>>154221752
The fact that you thought this was impressive enough to post kind of speaks volumes about Invincible's animation quality (or lack thereof).

>>154222078
>invincible fights dont have "insert weeb term here"
Good. Fuck weebs they can eat a dick.

>>154222127
What looks bad about that? Not enough random incomprehensible shit going on to trigger the same sensation weebs get from jiggling keys?

>>154221894
That's a very well compressed .webm.

The reason Invincible gets compared to JJK is because they are both popular and aired at similar times this year, and it starkly shows how poor Invincibles animation is over all. But the truth is that Invincibles' animation and fights don't even compare to stuff that released 20+ years ago.
There is not a single action piece in Invincible that comes close to the animation and emotion of somthing like the final Agni Kai in ATLA. The average invincible scene looks less polished than an episode of Ben 10.
Additionally a lot of Invincibles fights aren't very interesting to watch or really think about. It's just Mark and Co punching people until it ends. There is no strategy or particularly interesting choreography, which means most of the fights only have sceptical, which then loops back around to the problem that Invincibles' animation is fairly sub-par.

>>154222063
>Has to post a fan animation that references an anime fight scene.
Damn.

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>mogs weebshit
>mogs gookshit
Do I even have to say it mogs whatever the fuck the SHITvincible fag was posting?
Get out, tourists.

>>154222127
Also I was making a webm for the thread desu
>>>/wsg/6174211

>>154222146
>/co/ poster has a myopic view on animation and comics and never branched out
makes sense. No other reason to be so virulently defensive about mid

>>154222318
Id rather not subject myself to anime unless I have too.

>both animefags and cartoonfags dislike the invincible shitter
Fuck, we are finally united against a common enemy!

>>154222178
It looks like your typical below-average animation. It's not particularly standout or all that great, it'd be like making a webm of a scene in a typical villain-of-the-week fight in Ben 10 or something.

Anime fights have the same fucking problem 1960s comics have of the characters narrating everything that happens but is stupider because they'll stand still going over all their options for ten minutes while the other guy doesn't attack

>>154222398
Where does that happen in >>154221351?

>>154222412
Probably somewhere before or after the characters start moving and throwing punches like retarded limpwristed monkeys. Jap choreography is just as bad as western slop. Sakuga and tiktok hype edits don't save it from being foundationally shit. You know exactly what I'm talking about and tons of shows suffer from it.

>>154222398
>>154222412

He thinks that no new anime has been made since filler-boated DBZ.

>>154222343
that's not true. Ben 10 had shading

>>154222489
JJK, One Piece and Naruto do the exact same thing of over explaining a new characters powers and the MC having to go through his gay JRPG command list like a strategy guide (because Asians are all inflicted by number autism)
>B-but this unpopular show nobody cares about doesn't do-
Cope. We're talking about normieslop like Invincible, nobody cares about whatever you're bringing up. This is the generic shit weebs love to champion

>>154222486
That's a nice salad of buzzword but that shit looks 1000 times better than invincible and no they don't narrate the fights even before that.
>and tons of shows suffer from it.
Some battle shonen suffer from it and even there it's only in a few examples where it happens non stop.

>>154221045
I've heard people say this, but if those flashes added weight to the action. Young justice had it's action uncensored and none of the hits felt like they landed.

When it comes to why Invincible's fights are bad, stiff animation and uninteresting choreography is only part of the problem. The lack of shading makes everything look flat and lifeless, even the gore looks sterile. And the audio work is frankly embarrassing, the sound track is always the most basic filler music imaginable, which is a legit problem because music is what drives emotional response to a scene in an audiovisual format. And the sound effects of the fights themselves are stock assets, I distinctly remember in season 2 when they fight the Viltrumites on Thraxxa that the punches were just the same 2-3 punch sound effects over and over and over again, regardless of who was punching who or how much damage was being done, with like one or two 'squelches' thrown in there for variety. It was *embarrassing*. Just a complete lack of respect for the audio element of the scene.

Compare that to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADFNy_eHgIk
Its is fucking stupid? Yes it is. Its also creative, has shading that gives it life, the scene has flow and pacing, and the audio work is doing exactly what it needs to in order to establish the emotional energy of the scene as it progresses. This scene predates Invincible by like a decade and was made on a shoestring budget, there's really no excuse why it should be doing ANYTHING better than Invincible does and yet here we are.

Notice how nobody posted examples of jjk animation? Curious. Perhaps the quality of that show is actually worse than invincible in every way.

I can't wait for Kagurabachi to come out so we can have these arguments all over again in 9 months.

>>154220279
>westerners tend to oversimplify things too much then try to make it sound more complex than it is and it results in uninteresting characters, fight scenes, power sets and the like
There's this baffling refusal to treat choreography as a specific skillset that takes time to figure out how to do properly.

>>154222624
>shit is better than shit!
Neither of those are good you idiot. It's not helping you arguement that weebSHITis better than InvincibleSHIT.
You are both tourists fighting over garbage.

>>154222602
Only occasionally they can work IF done right, like a camera pov shot (punching the screen), but not just to obscure the hitting shot which was obviously the intention to appease the FOX censors and then the WB ones.

Teen Titans is when it got worse.

>>154217832
It's crazy how much better Invincible would be recieved if it was animated like the Invincible game. With a good budget, obviously. Would likely be a lot easier on the staff due to the benefits of 3D as well.

Shame.

>>154222545
Naruto has plenty of shit in it but also some outstanding battle scenes that look better than the ones in invincible and have minimal talking. Also you are contradicting yourself "weebs" and "normalslop", shonen appeals to normalfags while weebs usually have a deeper knowledge of anime and don't care about shounen.

>>154216518
>Just punching is bad
So what about Hajime no ippo? Or Kengan Ashura

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Weebs are just mad invincible doesn't have a billion flashy effects and characters monologing their abilities

>>154217832
>>154219889
The series isn't animated like that because the comic wasn’t drawn like that

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Both the Conquest fights are pretty good, and the Thragg stuff in S4 looked great. So I don't fucking care.

>>154222696
Hajjime no ippo has more impact to its punches and some nice choreography in some of the fights.

>>154222706
How come they can karate chop each other open?

>>154222706
it also doesn't have any shading

>continues to post webms to delude himself that people would like it
>ignores all critcism from real WESTERN CHADtoonKINO
These two webms mog everything that is posted in this thread.
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>>154222300

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I love mogging weebs with better fight scenes than anything from japan with the click of a button

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>>154222998
I could spend all my time posting hundreds of anime fights that shit on invincible but I will only post 1 and leave. Bye

>>154222998
I doubt anyone here thinks even you believe you, anon.

>>154223031
>needs 40 seconds to prove anything
My webm only needed 6 seconds to be impressive. Cope

>>154223061
You're trying to force it too much. Trolling is supposed to be natural. Effortless. Shitpost *with* the flow, not against it.

>>154222931
He said in another thread that he is black and the blacks obsessed with invincible can’t use their brains that well so excuse him.

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>>154223101
Only people trolling here are weebs. They cant possibly post anything from japan they think is actually as impressive as invincible.

>>154223031
The helper girl is cute, she doesn’t even need a katana to fight.

Most cartoon/anime fans wouldnt know a good fight scene if it ate a can of spinach and punched them in the face.

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Is this the thread where we bully Invinciblefags?

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>>154223436
This is the thread where weebs are forced to cope and kneel to invincible

>>154221301
Scale is one of the lamest ways to try and make a fight scene cool.

>>154224162
Agreed, especially when the scale doesn't matter or comes off as too easy. Going for big scale is supposed to be cool because of the effort required to do something like that, the sheer power involved.

Why should I be impressed by the destruction of the planet Viltrume? I'm not even sure that Nolan/Mark/Thadus flying through it *did* anything, the infinity ray was carving a hole clean through the planet with or without them. What did them flying in its wake add to the result beyond letting them claim the credit by proximity? Its not like they HIT anything while they were down there.