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Controversial opinion... I like Shrek 4. I really liked the idea of parallel timelines/universes; it's very different from what we saw in the previous films, and I really liked the butterfly effect that happened due to the simple fact that Shrek was never born, how different things could be. That's a really cool idea. I didn't really like how Shrek humiliates himself for Fiona and her feminist attitude she could have had a "sweet" personality while participating in the rebellion. Overall, I like this movie.

It's a fun movie, unlike the third one at least.
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>>154235036
So much for being ogre
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>>154235110
Same...
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>>154235036
I also think the hate is sometimes a bit exaggerated. It's not even comparable to how awful Toy Story 4 or even 3 is. The problem with this movie is that things happen too fast.
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>>154235159
>The problem with this movie is that things happen too fast
All the four Shrek movies don't last more than 83 minutes if you remove the credits
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>>154235036
What happened to Fionna's timeline? Did she "die"?
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>>154235036
It didn't deliver as much laughs, but it was still a fine movie and much better than 3. A shame both are grouped together so often.
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>>154235676
Perhaps the Shrek universe has multiple timelines like Diagon Ball Z or Marvel? Maybe there's a timeline where Shrek never rescued Fiona and remained in his swamp until the end of his days, one where Fiona married Farquaad, or one where Prince Charming won. Who knows, maybe Rumpelstiltskin has knowledge of this and uses it to his advantage?
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>>154235835
Exactly. I think both Shrek 4 and Toy Story 3 were quite "depressing" at certain points.
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>>154235036
8/10 My favorite part is when Shrek talks about his children with this new Fiona and gives her the doll. It kind of "died" if it weren't for the script
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>>154235903
7/10
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>>154235036
It's not exactly a controversial take. Anyone who's seen 4 agree that it's actually pretty decent and had a few good things going for it. It gave us Butterpants and all he did was say one line multiple times and everyone loved it. The problem is that it came after the poorly received 3 and suffered all that backwash.
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>>154237561
>The problem is that it came after the poorly received 3 and suffered all that backwash.
What?
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>>154235110
Shrek 5 honestly pisses me off than most cashgrab animated legacy sequels. Forever After (alt titled The Final Chapter) actually felt like a definitive closing of the main franchise. I wouldn't've minded a couple more spin-offs or whatever, but literally doing 'More Shrek Just Because' pisses me OFF
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>>154238961
You lost bro
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>>154235036
Its not complete shit like 3. And it has one of the most soulful credits sequence in film
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>>154237561
Well put my friend
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>>154235036
I don't get why it has like a 50% on rotten tomatoes. It has a strong emotional core, plot is fun and sprinkles little set ups for later like Fiona teachering Shrek to tie knots and Shrek's daughter's doll. It has a great pacing and I like the songs and animation. I really think it deserves an 80 or even 90. Shrek has such a good arc in this movie.
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Hating on this is 200% justified because nobody wants to watch a Shrek movie for the existential horror and deep character introspection.
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>>154239104
This. Maybe 80%
>tomatoes
Biased crap
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>>154239192
>Hating on this is 200% justified
For example?



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