Goofballs Edition Beware local schizo dubbed MatPat. Do not engage with him. Just ignore.
Got to post this here. Always.
>>154248693Man and rib
>>154248776He loves his McRib
>>154248776Has white hair, is the size of a rib, is bloodied like his plate of ribs - ribs are his favorite food. Rib wife Eve can't fool me
>>154248811
>Exorcist army is all female because Adam thinks warrior women are hot as fuck>Sera approved this army because she also thinks it’s hot as fuckSometimes lesbians can be based.
>>154248852Approved
>>154248852She understood his potential
>>154248929he's going for his ultrasound (it's triplets)
>>154248838Are you the artist? I think I've seen this floating around Twitter. Amazing job!
>>154248811Adam and Lilith should be dark brown from the dust.
>>154249003Nope. Just found it after someone posted it here. Still love the art tho.
>>154249017Viv made them White because she understood that first humans are meant to be superior.
Eve should be a short, tanned redhead tomboy, basically the complete opposite of Lilith.
>>154249061I prefer brunette/ the same skin color as Adam, as long as she's short, I really don't care. Redhead sounds pretty dope
>>154249044I know you're fucking trolling, hopefully, but I was in the server with that former employee who verified some of this information. She said specifically that Viv designed the Eden humans white, like Caucasian white. Don't think she meant specifically the race, I just think she meant, blonde hair, fair skin, etc. But regardless, Viv has to model them after herself. I will fucking jump out the window if Eve is blonde.
>>154249044Adam is not a true Aryan. He's brunette.
>>154249017No.
>>154249140Oh God, I'm getting PTSD flashbacks from that one fan design of Eve, where she was super curvy, had very curly hair that did not look like the silhouette, and very bad vitiligo with really dark . I don't know why it was so popular.
>>154249113I'm obviously trolling man. I will admit it kinda weird how Viv made them like that. I think she the applied the modern writer technique we see with Greek Mythology were almost none of gods are portrayed as actually Greek looking.
Just give Lute long hair, make it brown or black, darken her irises, darken her skin a bit, and there you go. That's Eve.
>>154249152People wanted Adam to be a chocolate enjoyer. It was obviously not gonna happen but that dream now lives on in his son Abel.
>>154249187Couldn't have said it better myself. Get that cookie Abel!
>>154249061>>154249095Sadly even if Lute is Eve is true I still feel like Viv's gonna make Eve blonde. Like the woman is uncreative enough that she can't resist spamming the blonde woman button.
>>154249061Funny enough most original depictions of Lilith have her as a redhead.
>>154249209As a enthusiast of this theory... I also fear this. I don't have high hopes for her design. I'm coping by telling myself she's pale as fuck because of Heaven's light or some shit. I would love for her to be brunette or a redhead, with hazel eyes. But knowing Viv, she's going to be blonde-haired with blue eyes. Basically going from a white woman with albinism... To just a white woman
>>154249126His pubes are blonde. He is Aryan in spirit.
>>154249216Why the fuck would Viv not make Lilith a redhead? That would have been so fucking dope.
>>154249224Maybe she gives her red eyes while she was alive in earth. Fully going for that albino look( they sometimes have red or purple eyes). Probably still going to be blonde.
>>154249262Hopefully at the very least a strawberry blonde or a dirty blonde,,,,,,
Give me the most retarded memes you have
>>154249249Because Lilith's current design is an updated version of her original design which is recycled from one of Viv's many blonde white women( possibly from Zoophobia). She isn't the myth Lilith given a design. She is a Viv design with the name Lilith slapped on top.
>>154249113Oh, adding to this: the former employee also said that Roo is another white woman.... So yeah, three white women. Awesome.
>>154249300
>>154249304Hmmm Her Lilith has been around for a minute though? And her old designs, well I wouldn't call them designs because she just had different hair. The red sclera seems to be When she's in demon form?
>>154249281Yeah I hope it's a least a different shade. For the skin colour I think she's gonna remain white af as to avoid any whitewashing allegations.
So what do you think Sera’s GF is like?
https://youtube.com/watch?v=s7gG9_N21wQGives me huge Eve!Lute vibes, especially if it were Schizo Adam singing to her lol
>>154249318Isn’t Rosie an older blonde white woman? I.e she’s got gray hair now but I bet she used to be a blonde.
>>154249342Sera's gf is serpentious
>>154249375Ohhhhhh That's a good point. Yeah, I would argue she's a light gray or a platinum blonde?
Any Rosie Roo enthusiasts here?
>>154248811If Eve!Lute is canon they'll have to rename the Adam/Eve ship Guitarrib or something, Flowertunes just doesn't fit.
Genuine question: why do people think Eve has sideswept bangs? The silhouette doesn't show her bangs. In fact, it looks more likely that she had symmetrical long bangs, or at least if she has blunt bangs or something, she has two larger symmetrical pieces on either side of her head/ face.
>>154249438I mean to be honest, guitarspear isn't even accurate because her weapon is not a spear. This came from one of the staff's artwork of her way back in the day, Drew her with a spear. The more accurate ship name is actually guardrock, but it's less used. I would say keep it like that?
>>154249343It would work pretty well.>Lute has a schizo episode were she hallucinates herself back on earth with her old mortal look dressed in animal skins >Hallucination Adam takes the appearance of how he looked during his time on earth >He starts singing while Lute/Eve freaks out
>>154249446Because people conflate Lilith and Eve. In past artwork of Lilith, she has those same exact side bangs. people also assume Lilith in the card is Eve, (you know because of the smile, even though that smile doesn't really look like Eve's either...) so naturally they think Eve had side bangs. I don't see it. It definitely looks like she has just large bangs on each side of her face. Which funnily enough actually matches with Lute's hair.
>>154249471>Someone's menstruating!
>>154249438Guitarrib does sound pretty metal so yeah it's seems like a fine choice. Very poetic if GuitarSpear and Flowertunes die but are reborn together as GuitarRib.
>>154249495I think it's a waste of time that people fixate so much on hairstyles when it's one of the easiest elements for women to change.
>>154249495Lute’s hair looks more like an in-between of Lilith and Eve.
>>154249392I’m going to guess formerly platinum blonde hair that went grey.
>Viv: says Lute Adam and Abel have good Rock voices, and that they sound good together >Says Lute and Adam's sexuality doesn't matter and can be whatever: later reveals Adam, and Abel, are heterosexual Oh yeah, she's definitely an Eden human. It's Eve
>>154249540I’d rather have Lute be a secret demon than Eve. Being Eve robs her of a lot of agency.
>>154249564What the fuck no it doesn't, it makes her the most heavy metal Eve to ever grace pop culture
>>154249564Nobody gives a fuck Mat
>>154249564I personally hate the Lute is Eve idea because it ruins any sort of natural dynamic and developments Lute and Adam should have. Like Adam would only love her because it turns out she was Eve all along.
>>154249578>Lute being Eve removes her as a character!!!>Wants Eve to shapeshift into Lilith while possibly being influenced by Roo. Also wants her to look exactly like Lilith, with blonde hair, same eyes and body shape Lol
>>154249578I agree. If Lute is supposed to be Eve then she would be the most interesting depiction of the woman. I'd straight up start glazing Viv for it.
>>154249609LMAO deadass That's legit what they want
>>154249609Classic MatPat am I right?
Like Viv says she hates that Eve is always blamed and put down in the Adam and Eve story and wants to tell a story examining that, and then we have this character Lute who's spent the last two seasons being put down and humiliated by everyone including the people she's supposed to be protecting until all this fuckin ANGER is ready to blow
>>154249594>Dude actually loves his wife. >Somehow a bad thing.
>>154249594>Eve was made for Adam: To be loyal and faithful >Lute (the exorcist) was made for Adam: to be loyal... and faithful...?>oMg LuTe BeING WoULD bE STUpId. ThEy'Re NoThING aLiKe!!!2111
>>154249642Lilith Eve is an theory of Adam loving his wife and explains why he never mourns about losing Eve once.
Lute is LuteEve is EveLilith is LilithNo one is anyone else, stop with this autistic bullshit.
>>154249630Also, don't forget: >Audition song is Little Mix's Salute>Was described by Viv and Sam as 'feminine rage'>I have lost so much. I have endured!>Sleeper villain>Jessica Voska confirmed she'll make it to season 5 >Jessica Vosk confirmed she has a lot of trauma and has a ""sympathetic reason to hate sinners""Jessica Voska requotes the Lute/Eve theory and then deletes>"She's not who you think she is"You're all seeing this right?
>>154249594It's more like Adam still finds himself falling for Eve even when he doesn't know she's Eve
>>154249588Uh, how the hell would Adam not recognize Eve? Even disguised she’s still first woman.
>>154249399i think trainer lute and adamchu would be cute too.
>>154249669No MatPat that is very fucking retarded and you are delusional.
>>154249672As the Lilith Eve supporter, I wished the story was like this instead.
>>154249680THISSSSS. There is a fucking reason why Viv wanted to put that smile in there. She fought for that to be put in. >Said they've only had each other for so long
>>154249680But now Adam is a Sinner Demon. Would Eve still love him?
>>154249680Objectively very romantic.
>>154249678Yuppppppp
>>154249678Oh absolutely. They're spelling it out. Like it's very obvious? And then people will act like it came out of nowhere
>>154249678>>154249709You're forgetting when chibbi drawing of Lute and Adam got made and one of the show creators ( can't remember if it was Viv or her two stoges) said Adam and '' ahem "Lute" ,, .
>>154249672Vaggie the fallen angel and Vaggi the exorcist are not the same!!! Those are two very different people! It's an identity swap!!!!111Lol lute is Eve brooo
>>154249690???I’m genuinely confused. The deal with “Lilith” was implied to be done with Adam and Adam wears his Eden-themed robe on the day of the exterminations that would be appropriate for that location. If Charlie is doing the hotel to try to get “Lilith’s” attention, maybe “Lilith” wants Adam to exterminate sinners for her before meeting up with her.And Lute would be there watching this go on and on for seven years.
>>154249759Yeah I know which one you're talking about, that was Viv.
>>154249774.Nope
>>154248693Why is every Hazbin thread here based on the angels?>>154249044Viv would have made them black if people knew what she had planned in the pilot era. Alastor would be white if no one kicked a fit>>154249152https://x.com/i/status/1798720212520566880This? What's a shame is that this artist made such a good fucking exorcist Eve design. And then you see what's underneath and she went full fucking tumblr with the afro, vitiligo, dark spots. Like what the fuck. Viv would sooner drink bleach than have these design sensibilities. What's bizarre to me is that this artist drew Aclima, one of Adam's daughters, as white passing while everyone else is some shade of African. That design is the closest one to being show accurate that it makes me think she's a self insert.
Is Lilith going to be an actually evil mom or just misunderstood?
>>154249796Agreed. The Exorcist design was dope as fuck
>>154249806I think somewhere in between. Not outrageously evil, but definitely more on the selfish side. I think. At the very least, we know that she is neglectful, emotionally distant, probably cold. Based on what what Erica /charley's voice actor said, Charlie herself, and Lucifer
>>154249672Then who was phone?
>>154249774da fuck is this autistic bullshit.
>>154249796>Angels everywhere I want Alastor to get fat
>>154249767Of course they are different people. It's obviously a conspiracy. Sinner Vaggie already existed and was Charlie's girlfriend. They produced a similar looking exorcist to kill her. They used a magical memory deleting ray to make Charlie forget sinner Vaggie and made exorcist Vaggie intentionally fall. She's actually a sleeper agent that will activate when needed. The memory deletion ray isn't permanent so they had to quickly introduce a Vaggie before Charlie started remembering. Why do you think Exorcist Vaggie speaks Spanish. To emulate the sinner one. ( I'm obviously joking)
>>154249796I have never seen a single interesting OC Eve design and this particular artist is especially obnoxious because she's so vocal about disliking Guitarspear and thinking Lute is not worthy of Adam compared to her tumblr OC Eve. I hope Lute!Eve is real and she throws a fit about it.
>>154249678.....dude , that's literally just.... Damn, that's literally just Eve, huh?
>>154249774Once again you have shown nothing but mental retardation.
>>154249823Well Gir was the turkey all along.
>>154249842I saw this one in passing: https://x.com/_dollyste/status/2043223499263836491Looks a bit minnie mouse-ish but in an okay way I think
You guys know that Viv replied to someone complaining about Lute not doing shit in season 2,, giving more information and inside about Lute, and how they've set her up really big.. And then she deleted that shit? When the fuck does Viv ever delete shit? I'll tell you when: never. She wouldn't do that shit if Lute really was meant to do nothing. She's Eve.
Fake woman fans think it would be more interesting for Eve to be a generic vtuber soft girl instead of the world's angriest schizophrenic
>>154249842Some women use GuitarSpear and Flowertunes to self insert as Adam's wife/partner. They usually pick one based on how much they can see themselves in Lute/Eve. They are really horny for the big guy.
>>154249888Some. Those that identify with Lute tend to be more open to the Idea.
>>154249881Oh shit, yeah I remember that. Yeah the thread didn't say anything we presumably didn't already know about her, so I was really curious as to why she deleted it?? As far as I'm aware, Viv never deletes character information like that. Even when she's lashed out.
>>154249808https://x.com/i/status/1900270106162159907It's like the artist gets a moment of clarity before jumping the shark with Tumblr shit. She ships Satan and femboy Cain for some fucking reason. I don't understand the Tumblr mindset at all. Hazbin is Tumblr as well but there's clearly a spectrum where it can be done in an appealing manner. >>154249865This at least tried to follow the silhouette of book Eve. I don't get how people see that and instead get attached to fan Eves that look like thishttps://x.com/i/status/1764896301362098561Why even tag this as Hazbin Hotel when it looks nothing like it? Make your own show at that point
>>154249865I like this one! Better than the fucking Tumblr OC ones.
I'm not even attached to this theory, and it's fucking painfully obvious with high levels of retardation that she's Eve. They're not even being subtle about it either??
>>154249973If Jessica had not re-quoted that tweet, I think they would have been able to hide it a bit better. Because even with the tweet, people are still skeptical. Though that's probably because they self-insert to Eve all the time.
>>154249819>Best Mom
>The twist of Lute is revealed>She is the first Exorcist Angel and originally promised to have an other half>A sinner-related incident occurs that permanently destroyed this for her and she is blamed for it>She is seething about this for thousands of years, watching everyone else be happy>Sera puts Adam to her and commands Lute to make him her superior >Lute absolutely hated him and feels even more degraded than before>Adam quickly changes her mind by treating her like a woman >Cut to current day: Lute loses Adam and she has a virgin boy that also got his love life prevented by a sinner. >Said virgin boy also has a one-sided crush with someone.
>>154250017>Lute loses Adam and she has a virgin boy that also got his love life prevented by a sinner.huh???????
>>154250031It's just mat.Which is funny because Eve being the first/ primordial/ blueprint for The Exorcists tracks. That's probably why they all look like her. They're clones of her/Lute/Eve. She's the first soldier that was engineered for this
>>154250031It’s a reference to Abel.
>proposed twist#1: Lute is the first soldier!!!That's.. That's not really a twist. That's a given. It's obvious she was made for the second in command position. Like Eve... The second fucking wife... She's also the tallest, and actually knows how to fight, unlike the other Exorcists. She's not someone who is promoted. She was made for this. >Lute is a demon!!!The Exorcists are very clearly different from the rest of the Angels. They are demonic from their color scheme, to their helmets. That's not a secret. Everyone can see that. Everyone in universe can see that. Eve is a sinner. The first sinner. The Exorcists are most likely modeled after her. So of course they look demonic. Heaven engineered its own demons to fight against demons
Who's the most racist character
>>154250062Ergo.... (get ready for it).... She's Eve!
>>154250073Lilith
>>154250062Wait holy shit, why does this slap??????
>>154250073Rosie owns a black man
>>154250039I don’t think it works. There is no real benefit to making Eve into a soldier instead of making Lute from scratch that was built to be a soldier to be the progenitor of a soldier race.
If we assume Lute is infact Eve it's interesting and based that Adam is the one character who is said to uplift her when you'd assume he'd be her biggest oppressor in this kind of retelling. Especially when he is already a sexist pig otherwise.
>>154250147Ok mat
>>154250166It's actually very telling, and was part of my skepticism because look how he treats women.. And I'm supposed to believe Lute was another random creation arbitrarily made for him in the same way Eve and Lilith were? Why would he treat her so good when the first two failed? Unless it's less complicated than that, and she's just Eve. That's literally all there is to it. Goes to show you that they really are the power couple. Lilith left, became independent, she refused to submit. Eve stayed, was dependent on him, she submitted. I'm not saying it's the most positive message, but who fucking else would be so desperately loyal based on these mythos? Eve.
>>154250234> And I'm supposed to believe Lute was another random creation arbitrarily made for him in the same way Eve and Lilith were?I don’t think Lute and any of the Exorcists even had a name before meeting Adam.Her and the Exorcists feel like rejects casually tossed to Adam’s arms like they did with Abel.Lilith hated her dynamic with Adam. And left.Eve was designed to be with Adam and submit to him with implied lesser will. And her gain of free will could allow her to choose to stay with Adam or be consumed with revenge. (She gets the free will she wanted and is ultimately destroyed by it. Which is rad.)But the idea that Lute was never given an Adam of her own and latched on to Adam for it is quite different.
>>154250372>consumed with revenge. (She gets the free will she wanted and is ultimately destroyed by it. Which is rad.)MatPat detected
>>154250372>Headcanon alert
>Eve in the leaks: wants revenge, wrathful>Lute in the show: wants revenge, wrathful>Muh Wife Switch chucks: they are not the same!!!11!1!It's literally,,, the same character. Actually the same character.
>>154250234I think Lute does have a lot of the hallmarks of actual biblical Eve but I think viewers are thrown off a bit because she's missing a few of the big icons (apple, snake etc) since in Hellaverse those icons are more strongly associated with other characters. She doesn't have much of that bright red Roo imagery either and people are expecting Eve to have that.
>>154250385Well yeah. I think Lilith, Eve, and Lute are supposed to represent very different ideas. And I would assume Lute and the Exorcists all come in the same package. Especially since the lack of male exorcists implies a horrific reality for them. They are meant to be alone.So even when Lute feels the pain of losing a significant other, Sera doesn’t see it that way. For Sera, there was never meant to be a soul to complete her and there will never be one.
>>154250234Eve's whole thing was that she stayed by Adam's side through everything. I don't really understand people that think she would hate him and only leave him after popping out several triple digit numbers of children. If she disliked the guy she could have fucked off pre Cain and Abel. Her being Lute remaining by his side is more believable.
>>154250457Yes, I agree. That's why I say that without Jessica's tweet, people wouldn't not be picking up on it. That was a big oops on her end. What I argue is the blood splotch, not that it looks like an apple, though. I guess you can make a case for that, but the color.. That's a very prominent element in her design, which later changes to Gold. This could indicate that she was a human (red blood) then she became holy (gold blood), an angel. Then there's a shot of her, in the first episode, next to Adam's plate of ribs, which he calls his favorite. Bloody Lieutenant, bloody ribs. Second wife, second in command,,,,?I think people just want her advertising herself as Eve lol
>>154250472Exactly. That's just Lute. Her resenting him and shit is Lilith's thing. But people want to make both Lilith and Eve that way for... Reasons?
>>154250469Let me rephrase: It is stupidly convoluted. It's a dumb idea.
>>154250482>I think people just want her advertising herself as EveIn Universe that's not a great idea. She's ain't exactly the type that would want that attention. Her feeling some shame about the whole ordeal could be an explanation.
Sinner Adam?Real.Lute is Eve?Rea.The twist is that Hazbin Hotel, the gayest show ever, will have the most kino hetero romance ever by reuniting the original first couple in human existence.Sugoi, Viv-sama. I kneel.
>>154250497Lilith Eve doesn’t seem to resent Adam. She acts indifferent to him like he was some kind of tool to use. While Rosie Lilith does hate Adam and said he tasted bad.
>>154250532What's going on in this picture?
>>154250552Lilith isn't Eve xx
>>154250532Angry little rib bone plucked straight from the big boy's chest
MatPat you are being incredibly retarded. Go drink some alcohol.
>>154250550I actually would like that. Funny enough some straight ships and her favourite brand of Yaoi slop are the only thing that get attention in the show. All lesbian stuff is incredibly bad. Viv can't escape the need to be based.
>Mankind aren't all 11 foot tall giants because Lilith wouldn't put out and God had to give Adam a new funsize wifeha ha.
>>154250600It’s actually the result of incest.
You know, what if the whole season teases Lute is Eve and flips it up on its head to do the wifeswap twist and the cast members act like it’s the most hyped thing ever.
>>154250669I don't think so because they haven't been hyping it up at all. Why were they start abruptly?
>>154250669That's kinda stupid but not the kind of stupid shit Viv and her team do so I don't see it happening.
>>154250669Holy cow that is such coping. Wife swap isn't going to be a thing. It actually probably never even was. It's just sounds like a spitballed idea that never came to fruition. It came from a concept artist who, by the way, surprise, hated Viv. She wasn't even sure how Roo came into play, and she wasn't entirely sure that Lilith was Rosie.
>>154250600Pretty sure they were pretty tall pre-flood and got hit with the manlet debuff post-flood.
>>154250677You know if you look closely at the exorcists Lute is the only one who has that stitched mouth look when her mouth is shut. A nod to her being silenced for her opinions/actions?
>>154250678Because it’s Season 3 and Viv said that season is theory crafting galore.
>>154250707Not in Hazbin because Abel is the same height as Lute.
>>154250691Their stupidity has no bounds. Did you know Viv literally makes this drunk out of her mind.
>>154250708I don’t think she’s silenced over her actions. She silent because she has secrets she is forbidden to tell under Sera’s orders.
>>154250704I know how stupid it is. But I want to see it done so stupidly that it creates the biggest memes ever.
>>154250736Isn't he sometimes taller in some shots?
>>154250840Sometimes she's taller, sometimes he's taller but not by much. He's not a giant like his father.
>>154250795It wouldn't really make that many memes. Glazers will say it the best thing ever. Critics will point out how stupid it is. People will once again mention Viv ain't beating the misogyny allegations. That's about it. It might fall hard on its face to the extent a lot folks just drop the show.
Wait… if ancient humans are supposed to be tall then maybe the dinosaur chick and Zestial are pre-flood humans that were around with real dinosaurs.
>>154250898>Zestial got eaten by a giant spider
Real dinosaurs are canon.
>>154250932Bigfoot is cannon for some reason.
>>154250917Zestial's not Cain
>>154250955Truth Nuke
>>154250955I don’t want him to be Cain. But I doubt Vivziepop will make him relevant unless he is Cain.
>>154250991>But I doubt Vivziepop will make him relevant unless he is Cain.Buddy, that's... That's all you. Nobody else thinks that.
>>154250991Zestial is not CainLilith isn't accursed shapeshifting EveAbel is not secretly bloodthirsty Lute is not a hellborn demonYou're welcome
>>154251016Just look at the seasons, anon.The only time side characters matter is because someone needs Carmilla’s Angel weapons and knowledge, or it’s a Vee so Viv will shill them up and down. Season 2 was for Overlords and they barley do anything aside from showing up to Vox’s parties. Zestial is presented as this haunting ancient presence that is mega cool and threatening to Viv’s deviant art deer OC. And what he does for two whole seasons is nothing but simp for the Latina mom.
>>154251086No. Zestial isn't Cain. I hope this helps
>>154251086>Headcanon alert
>>154251086Are you retarded? Zestial is a Viv deviant art OC. He ain't Cain you imbecile. Nothing about his design says Cain. Do you look at Venom from Spiderman and you go "That's guy is definitely Judas."?
Bros what if charlie is actually eve all evangelion style (rei)
>>154251248Lol.
>>154251162> Do you look at Venom from Spiderman and you go "That's guy is definitely Judas."?Only if said Venom kinda looks like a corrupted Jesus with holes in his hands. Cursed to look like his victim.
Once again I'm amazed by MatPat's retardation. Truly the greatest byproduct of incest we have seen so far.
>>154251322That's an insult to people who are products of incest.
>>154251248>Adam’s Eve is a literal clown
>>154251322He calls the Lute Eve thing "unrealistic" lmao
>>154251464It would require for Sera to somehow not be banned in Heaven or exposed for it thousands of years ago.
>>154251502Oop see! There he goes again!!
>>154251502Zestial is not CainLilith isn't accursed shapeshifting EveAbel is not secretly bloodthirstyLute is not a hellborn demonYou're welcome
>>154251526? That is just a legitimate flaw in the theory. As well as how the heaven and Hell system normally worked before the hotel. Dead humans either go to heaven or hell without the aid of angels but the winners don’t seem corrupted in any way.
>>154251502>Headcanon alert
>>154251549It's not. It's been explained to you so many times. You say no, go on about your fan fiction, throw a fit when nobody cares. And on and on it goes. That's why nobody bothers to explain it to you anymore.
>>154251549Kkkkk matpat
>>154248693None of the Adam fics I'm following have updated for a while.
>>154251573The way people explain it to me makes it clear we don’t have enough puzzle pieces for that link between Eve and Lute to work yet.
>>154251650No, it's really just you.
You can all stop talking to matpat and mentioning matpat all the time now
>>154251679Don't bother with him. He plays dumb, refutes any explanation regardless, throws a fit when his schizo rants confuse everyone because they make no sense, then he gets whiny and weird. He also calls other people "normies" - that tells you a lot. That's why the first post on the threads says to not engage with him. It's really not worth it.
>>154248852>Adam canonically has a harem of warrior womenHe just keeps winning
>>154251683He's like a cancer
Vel and Alastor confirms that normal everyday humans can perform magic and spells for real.
>>154251723I mean that's kind of a given. Look at Ember Lynn. Has a human-made amulet that wards off demons.
>>154251608drop your recs anon i'm always down for anything adam-centric. >>154251702related are there any good fics of this nature?
I need Emily bros
>>154251782EMILY IS BEST GIRL
>>154251782>>154250532Why are characters from Heaven so much more loved like Lute or Emily rather than any of the actual main cast like Charlie or Angel?
>>154251812Because Charlie is a retard. Angel is... Well. I personally love Angel actually, but I think the complaints I often hear is that because he's tied to what's her face, the one who animated the rape video with Valentino and stuff, he's seen as rape fetish /goon fantasy fulfillment
The speaker is right there in season 2. Why would she ignore Eve and cater to the woman that is Eve’s biggest oppressor and silencer?
>>154251902Kk mat
>>154251902she's actually the only person who has shown lute any genuine empathy. watch her face at lute's breakdown right before sera interrupts. she's horrified.
>>154251942No actually. She doesn't care. When Lute is rambling, she has a blank face. She's horrified because Lute gets in her face and starts yelling. That's the point. Heaven doesn't care. Heaven has never cared. In theologies, it's recognized that she was deceived, she was tricked by the serpent, but God punishes her. Anyway. That's the entire point.
>>154251942SoShe literally does nothing for Lute and lets heaven be the same fuck ups to her as they have did thousands of years ago
>>154251961*God punishes her anyway. It goes back to what Viv said about the Adam and Eve story, how she's always found it fucked up that the woman is blamed.
>>154251961Why isn’t Heaven destroyed yet?
>>154251975I'm assuming you're not well versed in religion. Noted.
>>154251990Matt, you're not really good with your line of questioning. I and many others have explained it to you. Not going to bother.
>>154251992God in the Bible hates incompetent rulers. He replaced Saul with David for refusing to kill people. He made David’s life horrible on purpose because of a single scandal he did on a woman and her man. He made company of whores and taxers because they chased after him and spit on Jews that mocked the repenting sinful man next to them.
>>154252058>He replaced Saul with David for refusing to kill peopleI'm pretty he did it because Saul was a dickhead
>>154251768A03>When Day Breaks in Hell by Jalaras>Paradise Rebuilt (Brick by Brick by L3t_U5_D0_That_Aga1n>King's Hazbin Theater by Knoxs_Garden>Earn It by Soleneus >Neo-Genesis by Tomer3392>Hell is Falling by SinisterCat686>Holy Rulers (AKA the Adam x Stella fic no one asked for) by KrisR121 >His Hell, His Heaven by ZappyBoiKenobiAnything by Derpmaster9000, AkumaKami64, and His_Righteous_Thunder FF>Divine Ordainment by Feels Bad >The Doom of Hell by A Galaxy Tycoon
>>154252089And sera and anyone that what would know Lute is Eve would be worse than him and wouldn’t be granted forgiveness because they ensured she wouldn’t ever truly experience forgiveness. The real God is this being you don’t mess with and he considers any mistreatments to his creations to be offensive to his own body. He warns leaders to not fumble at their jobs or he will be their executor.
>Lute is Eve>God is incompetent and faithless to his creations to let elites be evil to them and give more sympathy to the literal sinners>Lute isn’t Eve>God is building up a plan for Lute that Heaven and Roo cannot see. And mend her and Adam together to a better eternal kingdom.
>>154252263God doesn't exist in Viv's Universe. The good and evil entities take their place. Also.... Portrayals of God very greatly from religion to religion. Him Being unfair to his creations is 100% on brand.
>>154252263Oh yeah, you're definitely not familiar with religion
>>154252312I am familiar with the literal God that that unzips his pants to piss on religious folks for their corruptions and got murdered by them. You are familiar with the pantheons that fucked human women as animals.
>>154252359Kk mat
>>154251464He says that because his own theories hold no water, neither within the show or by any commentary from Viv, the va's, crew etc. He's salty that other theories actually have backing
>>154250011is it the eyelashes?
It's weird that /co/ seems to be all in on the Lute/Eve theory at the moment when it's so niche everywhere else.
>>154253378It's probably some of my doing because I don't shut up about it. And people are realizing it's becoming plausible based on everything that's been said and shown. There are some Lute Eve schizos on Twitter too.
>>154253378Meh. Bring back Fat Loona.
>>154253391lol, got the shows mixed up.
>>154253391This is a Hazbin Hotel thread. Loona is not from Hazbin Hotel. Helluva Boss has seperate threads.
>>154253378This place is an echo chamber because there is actually very little people here interested in Hazbin Hotel till season 3 actually arrives.
Lute is probably hyper-obedient to her Adam delusion because she's used to centuries upon centuries upon centuries of grievances from everyone for not obeying her husband
>>154253428? People are interested because of season 3. This is the shit that will put these schizo theories to bed. Of course people are going to talk. Viv's retarded because this was the shit that was supposed to be answered in season 2. But you know ,,, TV and deer and all that
>>154253450No, it's because he was the only mother fucker who stood by her after Lucifer tricked her and fucked up everything for them.
>>154253428or at least until the episodes leak like last time
>>154253419I already said I got the shows confused,
>>154253466Literally everything has been leaking this year. Where the fuck are the Hazbin season 3 leaks?????
>>154253480>Where the fuck are the Hazbin season 3 leaks??up ur butt
>>154253452People are interested in this show because of season 3 but you gotta remember this. Deltarune is releasing chapter 5 this month, digital circus had its troonfinale, and Hazbin hotel season 3 will not be coming up till late next year. The interest is already divided to what is actually released and will be releasing soon.
>>154248729Sadly, most idiots in this thread can't read
>>154252124>Paradise Rebuilt (Brick by Brick by L3t_U5_D0_That_Aga1n)>Neo-Genesis by Tomer3392I've been waiting for new chapters for these two for a long while. Sad actual peak fics take so long to get updates but the yaoi slop gets new chapters every week.
Watch as Adam and Lute get fanworks much more kino than anyone else in the show in season 3.
>>154253661Nothing new. A lot of their stuff is filled with passion. It's just their style.
>>154248729Wait, her voice actor literally pulls this shit and nobody talks about it??? But when Charlie's voice actor says that Charlie will regress and push people away because of Lilith, everyone applauds and calls it a mega spoiler????Are people stupid? Lute's va gave away a mega spoiler, just like that, had to remove it apparently.. And people still think Lute Eve isn't happening? Lol
>>154250550Saw this and it felt appropriate
>>154253722actually though
>>154253703People are expecting Lute being Eve to be a bait theory.
>>154253703Lute is kinda niche and you gotta remember so called "Lute fans" ( guys that want her to specifically scissors with Vaggie because she is a closeted lesbian who got mind raped by Adam ) are probably trying to discredit this theory and make it's seem like it's fake.
>>154249680>>154249706Crazy how this was a last-minute addition
>>154253766And there's a big reason for that.
>>154253722I actually feel bad for her here. Imagine having a son that can't man up when the situation gets tough. She probably liked Cain more.
>>154253744That's a very interesting way of thinking (It's stupid). Funny how they expect that to be the bait theory, but not the 'hey, look at Lilith's silhouette that looks vaguely kind of like the Eve from the book' twin switch. If anything is going to be the bait theory, it's the latter
>>154253781Viv said that Adam had favorites, and that Abel was not among them. I personally theorize that his entire family, including Eve, were all similar. Tough, aggressive, brave, etc. Abel's just the odd one out.
>>154253800It would be funny if he was also the runt of the litter and all his brothers were bigger and stronger.
>>154253627I love the time travel and Adam/Lilith fics. There's only one that's been completed. But yeah Neo-Genesis and The First Man's Second Shot by AkumaKami64 and Derpmaster9000 rarely get updated. Also wouldn't mind seeing a Charlie/Adam fic where she goes back in time to Eden and sees first hand how bullshit the lies her parents raised her on were.
>>154253766Skye: Oh, and this was a cute thing you added as well.Vivienne: Yeah, I wanted this moment with him smiling at her because, you know.Skye: In the board originally he was just glazed over.Vivienne: He was just dead.Skye: Yeah, but like Lute gets a little smile.Vivienne: He has like one tiny last feat with her.Sam: They've just had each other for so long. Yeah. I never thought it would happen.Skye: Yeah, Lute's like... She's so angry, dude. Calm down.Vivienne: Lute is the angriest character I think I've ever made. She is fueled by rage.Sam: Like a feminine rage of the character. (or: Like, feminine rage: the character)Vivienne: Yeah, literally...
>>154253828Fully on board with this actually. The way her and Adam talk about him are like two disappointed parents. And then the fact that he wants to be like her? "I wish I could be like anybody else" shiiiiiit chile
>>154253792Three words: Motivation and Experience.Wifeswap leaks give Eve motivation and also show she is experienced at being a wife, lover, and mother that she can easily fill in the slot of Lilith if she wanted to.Lute is just… not that. She’s even nervous on having Adam know her feelings and not that she’s secretly Eve.
>>154253911It does. It gives her literally all the motivation.
>>154253781>>154253800>Alright Cain, Big G said that Abel's blood is soaking the Earth and he caught you rock handed, BUT I just want to make sure, did you do it? >Yes Father, I told him to meet me in the field after God preferred his sacrifice to mine and there I struck him with a rock>... You sure the rock didn't just slip from your hand, son? Accidents can happen and I can talk to the Big Guy>No, I killed him deliberately, I mean it was more than one smack>You sure you weren't sleepwalking? I think that can be a solid defence>I was awake, Mother. Look, God even gave me this mark of evil>Looks like it's just a bad sunburn >God also told me I'm to wander the Earth for all time never knowing the peace of death>Do you have to leave right now? >He was pretty clear that I did, yes>You know we can just make another son and call him Abel 2 so that balances things out. God would buy that, right? >I don't think he would, Father>Well at least take your brother's wife to remember us all. Aclima! Cain killed Abel, so you're his wife now! >Thank fuck!
>>154253911>Headcanon Alert
>>154253928Wtf why is this fire
>>154250669Viv isn't Gooseworx. She's feminist retarded, not tranny retarded.
>>154253928I feel so bad for laughing.
>>154253977People are coping really hard. They are really gripping the old ass leaks like there's no tomorrow. That would do such a disservice to Lilith as well. With the switch, either way you're putting down one woman in favor of the other.
>>154253918On what? Being a cuck for thousands of years and not even naming the Exorcists when that’s a thing Eve and Adam did for their own kids?Lute’s whole thing is that she does view herself and the whole exorcist race as soldiers. And no one in Heaven or Hell doubts this at all about them, their design, and their nature. Adam included. And they are the only race in Hazbin that has no natural means to multiply and produce new Exorcists by the lack of males. If Lute was born as Eve, she would put all of her focus on being a wife and mom with upmost seriousness and even ask “why isn’t (one of my better sons) hired instead?”
>>154254014>If Lute was born as Eve, she would put all of her focus on being a wife and mom with upmost seriousness and even ask “why isn’t (one of my better sons) hired instead?”>Headcanon alert
>>154254014>Headcanon Alert
>>154254014Kk matpat
>>154253844They aren't even trying to be subtle lol. Literally the only thing keeping this theory from being outright canon is yuritards pretending that Lute is secretly gay.
>>154254068Or the ones pretending that she hates. Adam, the ones coping by hanging on to the Lilith Eve twin thing, etc And what's funny is that her being Eve is not going to stop my ass from shipping her with Emily and Vaggi lol
>>154254099
>>154254099It shouldn't! Adam gets to smash, why shouldn't Eve??? Lmao
>>154254068I can't wait to see their meltdown when Lute isn't just revealed to be straight but that she's literally THE STRAIGHTEST WOMAM TO EXIST ( Eve). They will flip their shit.
>>154254143Oh yeah, they're going to flip their shit big time.
>>154254099If she's Eve then Emily and Vaggie ain't got no chance with her. She's in a whole new league of her own.
>>154250563>>154250669>>154249973What's the counter point Lute Eve fans have against the official Lilith card? The one that has her face obscured except a glowing smile like the Eve in the book of Hell. If you look closely, the bangs flow outwards like the Eve silhouette and her finger is making a shh motion, as if she's harboring a secret. Eve is a blonde, Abel indirectly confirmed that. Drawing the hair that way instead of the cowlick is a deliberate choice
>>154254424I honestly think they don’t have one. They just say “well, Lilith was depicting herself as Lilith and Eve” which is mega confusing. They look at Eve and say because she was designed for Adam and submit to him, she wouldn’t ever turn sour and forgo that love to a dark and unrepentant path. But that is very wrong.
>Abel wasn’t one of Adam’s favorite sons - Viv >Adam’s entire appearance was reshaped and formed to be like Abel’s.>Season 1 indirectly reveals Abel isn’t a human soul and his origins is from the seed of Lucifer. Lucifer’s deed with Eve didn’t just offend Adam deeply because it mocked his relationship with Eve, it also because it reduces Abel’s existence to being an achievement.Abel isn’t a favorite son. He is Adam’s most precious son. And that’s why Cain hated him so much.
>>154254543LMAO matpat pissy that the Lute being Eve shit has actual shit to support it.
>>154254620>Headcanon Alert
>>154254685It's because it genuinely triggers him lol it has backing and his quack shit doesn't.
>>154254674I legitimately have no idea what you are trying to say.
This is the only place that I find where people still actually believe that the card is depicting Eve. Are people that willfully dense? omlllll
>>154254543Only one person has said that. Just one. And you make it seem like ALL the Lute Eve theorists have said this. You have beef with a very specific person. Get a fucking life dude. What, are you mad that they're able to gather evidence, and you can't?
This can't be healthy... Is he a stalker too?
>>154254774I use the show’s content all of the time. The cards especially are severely overlooked by anons despite the symbolism going on with Abel’s card, the imagery of Eve in Lilith’s card, and the Adam lurking in the background of Charlie and Vaggie dress card.
>>154254823I've seen your so-called arguments. You don't.
>>154254787 If you are referring to the one looking over the likes and responses of Viv and her staff, maybe.It creeps me out a little.
>>154254823>Adam lurking in the background of Charlie and Vaggie dress card.LMAOOOOOO
>>154254833So then why the fuck are you stalking them? The fuck??
Wait, who is Matpat stalking??
stop stalking people you fucking weirdo mat
>>154254870An Eve schizo. They're the only one who headcanoned the Eve and Lilith's silhouette to be both just Lilith. I saw it on x. Literally the only person. How coincidental that Matt tries to pass it off as 'all the Lute Eve theorists say this'. He's fucking stalking them. Jesus.
dude...... Does he always do that? I knew he was in a cult or something. I guess it shouldn't be surprising.
>>154254543Stop stalking people. Fucking freak.
>>154254068Nope, not at all. It's painfully obvious. I can't wait to see the fandom blow up
>>154250948Gay SpongeBob Bigfoot
I'm less surprised he's stalking theorists and more so that he hasn't actually learned something from them. Or maybe not I guess.
>>154254915I love your paranoia. Some threads ago, someone made an argument that the Eve in the storybook is actually in Lilith’s appearance and no one seemed to say that’s stupid.
>>154249613I'll straight up Never complain about anything Viv does ever again in her shows.
>>154254620Fuck off with that shit you retard.
>>154255039So one schizo on here made a head Canon and you took that to mean that all the Eve Lute theorists say the same thing?Ok
>>154255039>no one seemed to say that’s stupid.Except you. Fancy that.
>>154255047>Viv: literally says Abel is not Adam's favorite son or one of his favorite sons >Mat: durr hurr Abel was the first fave!!!11
So no one fucking has a proper argument to the Lilith card thing then?>>154254743Because dismissing it like this without giving a counterpoint reeks of cope
>>154255090Keep telling yourself that buddy. We've been over this. You say your thing, other people give you logical answers with evidence. You say no. You throw your tantrum. You act confused. Blah blah blah. How many years has it been now? Your act is old and tiresome.
>>154255090>Because dismissing it like this without giving a counterpoint reeks of cope>Says the guy who believes Zestial is CaineYou cannot make this up. I'm fucking dying over here man.
>>154255116>Everyone I don't like is mat patAddress the fucking card. I'm asking a simple question, what is your rebuttal to that specific card
>>154255125Uh-Oh, matpat's getting pissy again
>>154255026I have to be honest. Most Hazbin theorists are legitimately awful and obnoxious. I don’t follow a single one.They all put on a voice that sounds like they’re on helium and/or act as though they’re jizzed out of their minds as Pan-Pizza and Nux Taku.I watched one video where they did a whole Abel and Cain thing with Zestial. And no, they didn’t have ideas on why Zestial, as Cain, would look the way he does as a sinner. Not a single one. And instead try to frame some way for Cain to be better than Abel. I don’t think I have clicked on one for a year.The fanbase is really reflective of Vivziepop of herself.
>>154255125at least reply to the right fucking person ,,,, retarded faggot
>lute eve fans have no arguments to a simple question so they name call any anon that passes by as matpatSomething something poop dick schizo reaction image>Not a single one of you fanatical retards are addressing the Lilith card, instead chimping out and deflecting
aDdrEsS tHe FuCkInG CaRdnigga sit yo ass down
>>154255148He's going to blow in three..... two..... oneThen you wonder why people don't want to talk to you And think your theories are shit.
Damn, when people get really pissed out of theory like this, it's because it's actually a possibility. Season 3 is going to be a fucking mess. I'm here for it. Especially if it weeds out the spergs lol
>>154255078Him not being the favourite does not mean your fetish cuck fanfiction is true you retarded product of incest. He's a major pussy. Adam probably doesn't consider him his favourite because he's the equivalent of a "onions boy" in his eyes.
When do you guys think Baxter's going to smash the crazy roach lady.
>>154255151Seethe harder fag. 1 hour has passed by and no one has given me an answer. If you fuckers are so convinced that lute is Eve and that wife swap is nonsensical, then why is a simple card so hard for you to explain? What is your framework in making sense of it? Instead I get chimp outs and "muh matpat". I'm not even matpat but fuck you Lute is Eve retards are easy to trigger when someone brings up the shit that pokes holes in your theory
>>154255181.... I think you're replying to the wrong person? What cuck fanfiction? Abel is Adam and Eve's son. Only fucking morons believe he's Lucifer's kid.
>>154255137Was that MatPat's inspiration or was the video actually done by him?
>>154255054This is literally an anonymous board. Am I really supposed to care? >>154255090Huh. They think I’m you. Sorry… someone like me is not common at all in the webs or real life. I do change based on the evidence provided. I originally thought Abel was Adam’s biological son and thought the people calling on him being Lucifer’s son were way off. But I went back to season 1 and realized that if Abel isn’t the first human soul to enter heaven despite dying first, he must be an inhuman winner. But instead of looking more inhuman, he takes more of Adam’s humanity. And Adam took on Abel’s golden angel features, the traits Lucifer inherited from Lucifer, the golden angel themed to Abel’s pinks and golds. So that’s why Adam dresses up as a Lucifer-like demon. It closes the gap between himself and Abel.
>>154255184You okay there? You're talking about getting people pissy but damn look at you. Seethe harder. Drinking your tears Nobody wants to give you an answer because they've given you answered before and you don't accept them regardless. Talking to you kills brain functionality. Go talk to an AI or some shit.
>>154255190Sorry. Read that while I was still sleepy and didn't see the second part. My bad.
>>154255198>So that’s why Adam dresses up as a Lucifer-like demon. It closes the gap between himself and Abel.>Headcanon Alert
>>154255198>Headcanon Alert You're not slick MatPat.
>>154255184>MatPat alert
>>154255201>I'm expected to keep up with past threads to get an answer, as if I'm going to parse through pages of retardation because a handful of retards are getting too evasiveNo, fuck you, spoon feed me the answer. >They've given youWho is you? Not me, because I don't keep up with this shit show of a thread.
Oooof He's getting testy! Rofllll$5 says he's going to throw a temper tantrum at season 3.
>>154255231Kk mat
>>154255183I kind of assumed he already was? Let them have crazy fishy roach babies
>still no response>Still evadingLmao and you tards expect your theory to be taken seriously. Why the fuck did the Hazbin threads on this board get infested with these Eve Lute schizos? Where the fuck did you people spawn from.
>>154255196It’s done in the period where I thought Cain being Zestial made no sense because it was produced months before season 2 was released.It is just pure retardation. It took months for me, post season 2’s release, to realize Zestial might be Cain and he’s a sinner version of what Adam is trying to replicate by his winner form and accessories. Abel.
When do you guys think the crossover episode will happen? I vaguely recall Satan's voice actor saying he was recording some lines, a while back, for Hazbin? Jeremy also said Lucifer pretty much appears every episode in season 3... Maybe we'll get it then?
>>154255233Only 5 dollars? Bruh bet at least 50 dollars cuz he'll be sperging out big time when S3 comes out.
Guys, just don't talk to him. Stop replying to him. Let him throw his baby tantrum. It's not worth it. He lives off the attention. The less you give it, the more he'll stay away. Or at least engage like a normal human being maybe.
>>154255272Season 3 is going to weed out all the psychos hopefully. Or attract more.
>>154255267I don't know because we're already getting the Lilith stuff... I feel like the crossover may be something once that's over? Or maybe it'll be like a special standalone episode
>>154255233He's already spazzing out now. I think he may just die next season.
>>154255231They’re not honest debaters. They can’t admit they have no real evidence against it. They just say it’s stupid to substitute it to “own you”.I pointed out that the whole Twitter post they cited for their theory said this:>Lute is Eve (This is definitely wrong)And not:>Lute is EveAnd they react as if I was being illiterate. Like what? Am I not supposed to cite the whole context of the post? Just the parts they like?
>>154255310He's gonna find a rope and ACK himself. We will immediately realise he died because he won't show up here to shit up the thread.
>>154255321>And they react as if I was being illiterateYou are>Am I not supposed to cite the whole context of the post?Literally nobody omits the entire text. In fact, the whole thing is important. You like to pretend they omit it because you're reading the post in such a specific, backwards way that it makes me pause and ponder that you're most likely not American.
>>154255351I say American because it's a cheeky text. I don't know if you're being genuine or if you're actually coping. A 10-year-old can properly make out what that tweet was saying.
>>154255351Imagine if he's Indian. Truly a dark fate.
>>154255348Have you seen how he interprets the deleted tweet? That shit is insane
>>154255348Are you feeling pressures of suicide, anon?Jesus is right there you know. He can help you out of it if you just reached for his hand.
>>154255321Brother I fucking hate Lute Eve theory, but your understanding of what the tweet says is so fucking retarded. You can just say you don't like the theory. You don't have to make shit up.
>>154255392 upset because Jesus doesn't reach for your hand huh? Work on yourself before giving other people advice. It's okay, I think God will eventually forgive you.
>>154255267A whole episode would be nice, but I'd also love even just minor references to events happening in the other show.>HB ep happening as the HH S2 finale>shows Blitzo staring out the window>"Da fuck they doin' over there?">vaguely "Hear My Hope" in the distance as lightshow going on
Mom! Mat Pat's talking to himself again!!!
>>154255407Would you prefer a dedicated episode or, little Easter eggs and stuff throughout the entire series and then at the very end, maybe as a season finale, a crossover?
>>154255393Charlie is a good character (This is definitely wrong)
>>154255419Good job, you applied an example! What did we learn? Go on, I believe in you. Put your two brain cells to work.
>>154255427That Lute is Eve is definitely wrong
>>154255436That's an F. You were so close! Oh well, maybe next time.
>>154255418a dedicated episode would be ideal, but having small easter eggs is pretty good and they are already doing that a bit.>Lucifer has gifts from the Sins in HH>rubber duck on Luci's chair in HB
>>154255436Rofllll someone please tell me this is a bit. Ain't nobody this stupid right? .... Guys right? Guys?
>>154255446What makes you so offended that Lute’s love with Adam was formed by means so unique. And Adam’s love with her comes with the internal conflict about Eve and what Exorcists truly are.
>>154255472>Headcanon AlertYou ain't slick mat pat
>>154255402I am already in his hands. It is you that lacks light to live.
>>154255459I’m sorry you were hurt like this before. Bu I have to say, that bully of yours never had true power to begin with. He was just a fool cycling hatred as you do.
Oop and he's getting weird, you guys. That's how you know he has nothing to stand on. Anyway!When do you guys think season 3 is coming? Mid next year or late next year?
>>154255544It is you that has nothing to stand on. When the words you thrown at me ultimately puts yourself to tripping.
>>154255544Yeah, just ignore him. He gots all preachy like that when he gets called out. It's pretty funny. If I had to guess? Probably late next year? I mean fingers crossed for the middle of next year.
>>154248729This is pretty fucking cool, not gonna lie. We just need sinner Adam
>>154255606cutie patooties
>>154255618
>>154255757I love the thought of Eve being like this in the garden. Pleaseeeeee. enough with the soft-girl uwu shit. Make Eve a FREAK
i've decided my least favourite people in this fandom are no longer the boring ass adamsapple sloppers but are actually the people who think adam tricked/manipulated sera into the exterminations, and generally anyone who tries to reduce heaven's flaws down to 'everything bad in heaven is adam's fault'.
>>154255800What the fuck? They exist?
>>154255800To be fair, it really wouldn't be hard to manipulate Sera. It's implied she kinda was. "How can I trust a justice so cruel and depraved." Adam wanted to get back at Lilith/Lucifer. Lute too probably. I could see either or. She should have known better. I blame the writing moreso than the in-universe plot tho
>>154255789Lute would most likely be the softest chick of the three.
>>154255818> Adam wanted to get back at Lilith/Lucifer. Not Adam…Eve.
>>154255757>>154255789He probably finds it hot in a weird way. Do agree. Please have Eve be interesting and unique. I'm tired of soft-uwu ditzy bimbo. I want her to be the human equivalent of a boney badger.
>>154255828Lute/Eve, yes.
>>154255828You're not slick matpat
>>154255820Lute is Eve so, so she always was this freaky.
>>154255800>>154255812>>154255818Adam's just the muscle. People are seriously ignoring that everything legislative is on Sera. While Sera isn't immune to being influenced ain't no way Adam actually had that much sway on her decision. He straight up can't manipulate for shit. At best he just came up the extermination solution and Sera agreed because it was convenient.
>>154255833Yes. Lute is Eve and she probably encouraged Adam to sell Sera on the Exterminations.
>>154249126Being Aryan has nothing to do with being blond. Or blue eyed for that matter. These phenotypes were merely a beauty ideal, but didn't factor in what qualifies as Aryan.
>>154255854>At best he just came up the exterminationHe did. The Exterminations were his idea. Let's not take that away.Sera's line: "How can I trust a justice so cruel and depraved?" The visual immediately cuts to Lute. Earlier, Lute insists, "I was right about them. Adam was right about them!" which tells us she had her own opinions about sinners and appears to have influenced Sera's thinking as well. Both Adam and Lute made a case for the Exterminations. Sam Haft has also said that both Adam and Lute subscribe to an "eye for an eye" mentality. Put all of that together, and the Exterminations were retributive justice taken to its extreme. Adam and Lute/Eve genuinely believed sinners, Lucifer and Lilith's people, deserved punishment.
>>154255876https://x.com/SamHaft/status/1980826471536161147Not a coincidence but also not a reference - “eye for an eye” is a concept that appears repeatedly in the Bible, about retributive justice. Lute and Adam both believe in this!"retributive justice" - mmmhm. Adam and Eve wanted to get back at Lucifer and Lilith
>>154255812legit i've seen people say shit like 'he was her only example of humanity and he knew that and took advantage of her good faith!'. to some degree adam haters glaze him harder than adam stans do, what level of machiavellian bullshit do they think he's capable of? >>154255818if that was adam's doing, why is lute the one she sees during that song? and when has adam ever cared about justice when it comes to the exterminations?
>>154255858Actually though... You may be onto something. Jessica Vosk said this recently. I assumed she was talking about Abel buttttt:“Well, there's going to be a lot of future Lute happening in, I think, just saying, no spoilers... Um, all of the— Lute kind of has a relationship with a lot of different characters, whether it's Abel or it's Sera, or, I mean- the way she interacts with people is so manipulative & she tries to play everybody in a different way, which I think is very smart as a character, to be written that way. Um, a lot of the stuff you hear from Lute is… sort of, not the way that you think she would say it, but she does it completely on purpose. So… I really think that you're going to see a lot of hopeful manipulation on Lute's part that might not always go her way, especially in that relationship, that dynamic especially. & that's all I can say, or I'll be killed.”https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHTdgnram2o
>>154255898like he calls them entertainment at the end of the day, when all's said and done.
>>154255898See: >>154255891 and >>154255876
Hazbin Hotel is really fucking gay.The Bible legitimately has much worse punishments for the sinners and Sera is all up about how “wrong it is”.Emily and Sera are the kind of retards that just need one bad dude to get them to pull his finger away from smashing heaven to bits.
>>154255922Biggest issue with Hazbin is that it's all or nothing. Had the fuckers like Alastor, Vox and Valentino been prime targets for Exterminations while the shitters like Pentious and Emberlyn were ignored nobody would be complaining. The problem with the whole redemption thing is that you need to filter the trash from what's actually salvageable.
Okay. What if Eve is supposed to be very similar to Lute that they practically fight together. But Eve is so corrupt and screwed up about it that it makes Lute horrified.
>>154255956No matpat
>>154255956>Eve is so corruptYou're not slick Matpat.
>>154255958Come on. I thought you would like an Eve that hates Lucifer a lot more than Lute does.Lute kinda acts unfamiliar with Lucifer and has far more frustrations with Charlie out of the three family members.
>>154255980No she doesn't. More proof you're not watching the show. She has it out for him. This is made evident back in season 1. in season 2 she straight up lies about Lucifer commanding the hotel crew.
>>154255992I wouldn't bother. The guy doesn't want to accept it or entertain it as a possibility. Everything from the supposed leaks like up with Lute.>wants revenge.>is an important part regarding Heaven and Hell>EYE FOR AN EYE / retributive justice>has it out for Lucifer and Charlie -specifically- She's just Eve.
>>154255913He wanted to make Charlie think he was ramping up the exterminations just for shits and giggles. And not reveal the fact that one of their own was killed.
>thinks Lute doesn't hate Lucifer ENOUGH lol
>>154255951Hazbin Hotel is a show of non-issues spread across five seasons. Even Adam’s song in the first season makes it clear that the sinners were already bad for being bad people and they had their chance to be better. It’s not like he is against redemption, but he is against people that have wasted their chances of redemption. And Sera, Charlie, and Emily for some reason can’t see that when Alastor and Niffty will walk into the room and say “they are bad people and they went to hell for a reason.”
why does this one guy want to make it so so so convoluted and tangled by having Lute be similar or a parallel to Eve, doing the same things Eve is doing, when she's literally just Eve?
>>154255922>sinners literally fired a laser at Heaven and threatened to invade>But no. You can't kill them! Because you just can't!
>>154256046He likes the Lilith-clone theory and is convinced the story is going a completely different way. i think it's a fanfiction or something? i'm not too sure.
>>154256064He saw a YouTube theory video on Hazbin and made that shit his whole personality.
>>154256073No fucking way lol do you have a link?
>>154255992How is Lute supposed to know the infamous Lucifer who deceived Eve didn’t secretly perform the operation?Charlie in one month had a whole army, an organized collection of angel weapons, and her dad swoops in the moment the contract is broken. Lute in ptsd mode saw Charlie’s and Vaggie’s faces and not Lilith’s and Lucifer’s faces. She wanted to use Lilith to put Charlie down in season 1, being very blind about the consequences of Lilith being in hell at all.
When we say 'don't engage with Matpat' that also includes circlejerking yourselves about him. Just ignore his posts, don't reply to them AND stop talking about him, it's the same exact shit.If you don't SHUT UP about him then instead we all have quadruple the amount of pointless walls of text to sift through, both from him and from you people talking about him non stop.
>>154256082>How is Lute supposed to know the infamous Lucifer who deceived Eve didn’t secretly perform the operation???????Because Charlie makes it abundantly clear that the idea came from her. She's the one who created the hotel, proposed redemption, attended the meeting, and went to Heaven to argue her case. Nothing about that suggests Lucifer was secretly pulling the strings. Adam and Lute know this.
>>154256084How the fuck are we supposed to do that. Some posts seem normal at first and then he derails. it's fucking annoying. can't we get him IP banned or some shit. i can't tell who's who
>>154256105The moment it becomes schizobabble then ignore, easy.
>>154256096You're talking to matpat
>>154256105He used to be a name fag a long time ago but dropped it because people kept ignoring him.
>>154256113Fair. I'll try better. This fucker is so goddamn annoying
>>154256084Ha, you seriously thought I was the issue. You should’ve already known who were the real troublemakers here a long time ago.
>>154256121I guess it’s because Jesus himself is so annoying you would desire to kill him.
Lute should want to kill Lilith instead to make Lucifer cry in Gravity.
>>154256203She wants to kill Charlie, Vaggie and Lucifer.
Hazbin /co/ threads be like
>>154256227Do you think it's legit he doesn't have a deer tail.
>>154256236I think it unlikely Adam would have a deer tail
>>154256203>>154256213You obviously first kill the children. They are weaker and cause more long term emotional damage. If parents survive and end you their entire life will be miserable. There's a certain order when it come to murdering families for revenge.
>>154256262
>Season 5 of Hazbin Hotel>Ends with Hell being destroyed along with Charlie, Vaggie, Lucifer, and Lilith so that Roo cannot escape its destruction.>Heaven merges with Earth and becomes a new Eden>Adam, Lute, and Abel are happy. Many redeemed sinners mourn about Charlie’s death.
>>154254424Nta>Glowing smileA visual shorthand for a mysterious person>The shh gestureWe haven't heard Lilith speak yet and her motivations for being on the beach are mysterious>The bangsDon't look particularly like Eve's silhouette. Also hair moves around when it is disturbed.
>>154254424>What's the counter point Lute Eve fans have against the official Lilith card?The silhouette doesn't line up 100%, and that's before getting into the fact that the series is intentionally obscuring Lilith. It also bears a strong resemblance to pre-release artwork of Lilith, including the same bangs and signature smile. That's always been Lilith. And I mean even before the series came to frution.>Eve is a blonde, Abel indirectly confirmed that.Not definitive. Adam, Eve, and their children have been depicted with all sorts of features throughout history. More importantly, it doesn't really matter whether Eve is blonde or not. The theory isn't hinging on hair color.>Drawing the hair that way instead of the cowlick is a deliberate choiceLilith has had multiple hairstyles across the years. The flashback hairstyle isn't some unique Eve trait; it resembles older artwork of Lilith. Once she turns her head, the cowlick is still present. Nothing about that scene suggests we're suddenly looking at a different person.There MAY be some sort of identity swap at play, but the stronger candidate is Roo, not Eve. Roo's character predates the show itself, and her old official artwork shares several visual similarities with both Lilith and Charlie.
Literally has the cowlick in the flashback
If Lute is Eve then I look forward to the art of her sucker punching Roo for pretending to be her and stealing her man.
>>154256372It can’t be Roo. Roo is only in season 4 and 5.
>>154256456I said MAY. Also, I'm 90% certain Roo = the Evil Goddess/Entity. If so, she's also been seen throughout the show. All the eyes presumably belong to her.
>>154256454If Lute is Eve, then nobody is pretending to be Eve. The blonde Eve Lilith doppleganger doesn't exist. It's literally just Lilith with her hair done differently. She's had side swept bangs and her bangs pulled back.
>>154256463Roo must be the source of all magic. So if you were to eat the apple or maybe just hold it then the person himself could harness Roo’s powers.
>>154256482Sigh, No Mat. There are no 'Roo apples' scattered about.
>>154256469I'm referring to all the Adam/Roo fanart where the artist assumes Roo is Eve, not anything that's happening in the show.
Lute being Eve would be great so that she Abel Lute shippers could shut up already. Abel clearly doesn't like her that way at all.
>>154256512Viv liked this on bluesky
>>154256523and this
>>154256523That's Kirk Van Houten under there ain't it, Milhouse's actual dad?
>>154256523>>154256529................. wow. o yeah, Lute is definitely Eve. Jesus Christ ,,
>>154256535hahahha WOW I didn't even fucking realize that??? i didn't know the context. holy fucking shit???????
>>154256512There will be so many meltdowns>Abel/Lute shippers>Adam/Roo shippers>Lesbian Lute truthersBeautiful
>>154256546we'll throw a party
>>154256545Yeah it's Milhouse and his actual dad Kirk. His parents got divorced but they get back together in later seasons
>>154256501
>>154256546I just can't wait for it. It will be glorious.
>>154256546>Lilith Doppleganger Truthers>Roo/Eve Truthers>Flowertunes shippers who hate Lute>Guitarspear shippers who hate Eve
>>154256529>>154256523>>154248729>>154249678... and people still don't think she's Eve? jfc
Do you guys think the Lute Eve reveal is going to come at the end of season 3, maybe to get into season 4, being that season 4 is the gold color, or are they just going to get it over with at the beginning of season 3?
>>154256718I think it's going to be at the end of season 3. Since season 3 going to be the Lilith, Lucifer, Charlie and Eden stuff, they're probably going to give obvious hints. And I mean, even more obvious and in your face than they are now, and then at the end we'll get the reveal. That'll set her up to be the main bad guy in season 4. I don't count on her doing much in season 3. She still has to simmer.
I would have so much disgust on Lute being Eve
>>154256629Flowertunes and GuitarSpear will die. From their ashes GuitarRib will be born and it shall shake the very foundations of this world.
>>154256763Why?
>>154256763Yikes.
>>154256768As God intended.
There was a little psycho on one of these threads trying to chew out one of the Lute Eve schizos. Something about not respecting the story, and not providing Lute dignity on being "her own character". They almost made Jake look sane.
>>154256791You speak the truth.
>>154256805Pretty sure that's just MatPat. He does this shit constantly.
>>154256805that type of shih is fucking hilarious holy crap ,, fcking nutjobs I s2g
I left so hard when people say stuff """disgusts""" them. Tell me you are chronically online without telling me you are chronically online. That's one way to describe your feelings over a cartoon.
>>154256824*** Laugh
>>154256824Yeah it very telling the types of people you're dealing with when they use the word "disgust" in that specific way.
>>154256718Maybe they'll have an episode dedicated to it? Like in Steven Universe? Or are they just might make it painfully obvious in the first episode and then kind of expand on it throughout the season? It really shouldn't be a big deal in my opinion.
>>154256773Because it means antagonizing the first humans, presented as a tragic loving couple screwed over badly by retarded seraphim angels, for over about four or five seasons for the benefit of the literal Devil and his stupid kid and her stupid GF to look like morally superior heroes. They might as well have Abel disown his parents and become a Morningstar while they’re at it. It’s just pure demoralization.
As someone who's not really invested in this theory or really anything of the eve stuff ,,, is it just me or is this something so painfully obvious? I could have sworn if this was 10 years ago, people would pick up on this and not shut up about it. I feel like the older we're getting the stupider we're getting. Or maybe it's just this fandom. I don't know
>>154256853>the first humans, presented as a tragic loving couple screwed over badly by retarded seraphim angels, for over about four or five seasons for the benefit of the literal Devil and his stupid kid and her stupid GF to look like morally superior heroes...... What show are you watching? That's... Yeah, that's literally what's happening. Charlie, vaggie, Lucifer, they're all the good guys....? Sera is extremely competent for being one of the oldest characters in Heaven currently. That's.... that's the point? Brother what?
>>154256874*** Incompetent
>>154256863It's just this fandom. Lute Is also not really a popular character, so people don't really care if she is Eve or not. What people generally care about is Lilith.
>>154256874I am barely tolerating two seasons of Adam bad for killing the poor little sinners. Adding an Eve that badly wants to be forgiven and serve heaven be treated as a total stranger by her own husband for thousands of years by Sera’s command, lose him, and be portrayed as a sinister villain for seasons 3 and 4 would just make me completely lose it.
>>154256961>I am barely tolerating two seasons of Adam bad for killing the poor little sinners.That's very much a you problem. The "poor little sinners" comment already tells me we're probably operating from fundamentally different readings of the show. The narrative goes out of its way to frame the Exterminations as wrong.>Adding an Eve that badly wants to be forgiven and serve heaven be treated as a total stranger by her own husband for thousands of years by Sera’s command, lose him,She got screwed over, blamed for it, and then spent the rest of her existence being overlooked, dismissed, and spoken for by other people. That's a pretty classic theme in stories about Eve, and it's something Viv herself has discussed when talking about how women are treated in the Adam and Eve narrative. Adam confirmed is the only one who actually listened to her. Adam's smile at Lute, her reaction to his death, and even the "I didn't get a chance to tell you—" / "You don't think I didn't already know?" exchange all suggest a level of understanding between them. Whether that relationship was romantic, platonic, or something else entirely is beside the point. Eve was blamed, silenced, and taken advantage of, and Adam was, confirmed, to have been the only people in her corner.>be portrayed as a sinister villain for seasons 3 and 4 would just make me completely lose it.?? But you want Eve to be some shapeshifting eldritch horror, that manipulates Adam, doesn't care about him / is indifferent to him, uses him, and becomes some cosmic antagonist. Yet, the idea that Eve is deeply tied to Adam, loyal to him, and affected by his death to the point where she will enact revenge, which is actually more biblically accurate anyway, is somehow the step too far.Puh-lease.
>>154256853>It’s just pure demoralization.Mind you, this is the same guy who wants Eve to effectively take Lilith's place by shapeshifting, be indifferent toward Adam, be portrayed in the most negative light possible, talks about how selfish, manipulative, and evil she supposedly is, yet the idea of Eve being someone who is loyal, devoted, tragic, and genuinely affected by Adam's death, is somehow 'demoralizing'.Someone make it make sense.
>>154257070It doesn't. This guy is notorious for Zestial being Cain, Eve being evil, Abel being a """""red flag""""" and that he's actually crazier than Lute is, and purposefully misreads the show all the time. No use in having a proper discussion. He's not receptive.
>>154256888The loudest fans tend to be the ones most attached to a version of Eve and Lute that hasn't actually been presented in the show. Because both are still largely a blank slate, people project whatever they want onto them. Then they clutch their pearls at the idea that she might have a tragic backstory deeply intertwined with Adam's. The irony is that this is exactly the kind of thing Viv has talked about when discussing the Adam and Eve story. Women get blamed. Women get overlooked. Women get written out of their own narratives. If Lute is Eve, then she's arguably the clearest example of that theme in the entire show. Nobody listens to her. Nobody takes her seriously. Her opinions get filtered through Adam, Sera, or whoever happens to have more authority in the room. The one person who consistently acknowledged her, valued her input, and kept her close is gone. And now she's unraveling because of it. It's going to be fantastic.
>>154253844>feminine rage,, broooooooooo and people STILL don't want to believe she's Eve lmaoo
>>154257093It also makes Adam less of an ass.
>>154257037An unrepentant Eve that uses up Adam for her revenge against Heaven and Lucifer and dies for it is better than a loyal Eve serving Heaven and being used as a punching bag of being “the evil one” for the entire show. What Viv would result in making Lute Eve is the direct opposite of her statements over Eve being blamed for the apple. Cause it would mean that an Eve trying to do the good thing and obey heaven gets constant punches in the face and still gets portrayed as a grand villain for completely losing it when her husband dies and people step over her.Only a fucking idiot would write this crap.
>>154257093Anon, if they could piss all over Eve for being a woman, wouldn’t that mean they could do the same thing to another woman?
>>154257139>An unrepentant Eve that uses up Adam for her revenge against Heaven and Lucifer and dies for it is better than a loyal Eve serving Heaven and being used as a punching bag of being “the evil one” for the entire show.Congratulations, you just described the Lilith figure. And guess what? We already have that character in the show. We don't need another.>Cause it would mean that an Eve trying to do the good thing and obey heaven gets constant punches in the face and still gets portrayed as a grand villain for completely losing it when her husband dies and people step over her.You are so close to getting it. Read what you just wrote: "Eve trying to do the good thing and obey Heaven gets constant punches in the face and still gets portrayed as a grand villain when she loses it." Yes. That's the tragedy. That's the point. That's exactly the kind of story Viv has talked about when discussing Eve and viewing the narrative through a female critical lens. Women get blamed. Women get scapegoated. Women get punished more harshly than the men around them. You're describing a criticism of that dynamic while somehow treating it as evidence against it. You are literally getting the point.
>>154257139Nobody likes your shitty fanfiction MatPat. That crap is dumb as hell.
matpat understanding the narrative for once and how it actually works with what Viv said but somehow still treating it as evidence against it somehow very on brand. i'm impressed.
>>154251608Mate I'm trying to get the ball rolling but the lard in charge makes it hard
>>154257139>Only a fucking idiot would write this crap. Ahhhh the ye old 'the creator is not writing this how i want it therefore it sucks' take. gotta love fandom rot,,
>>154249113Abel is blonde and Adam isn't, its a foregone conclusion, enjoy your trip down
>>154257182He kinda always does that. He perfectly explains why the point he's trying debunk is actually what the show is going for and fundamentally works. He is literally his own greatest opponent. I swear he got cursed by a wizard or something.
>>154257174i'm genuinely convinced he's a misogynist. i'm not using that in the internet-buzzword kinda way: i think he literally hates women. in his fanfic, Eve is a monster. Lilith less so but she's not that good either. Adam is some complex hero in his opinion. my guess is he's self inserting himself while using his past breaksups or some shihhhh. might also possibly be gay?
>>154257201You do know there are artworks depicting Adam and Eve with black or brown hair, and their kids are all sorts of colors, yeah? Comes with the whole parents of humanity gig. otherwise, everyone would be just white.doesn't matter though. I just care if Lute is Eve. so yeah probably blonde. but i can dream.
>>154257205He's actually hit the nail so well on some stuff that I'm convinced he's doing this whole thing as a bit. How did he GET it so well but still say it DOESN'T WORK when he explained exactly how it **does**???i am befuddled.
>>154257214Judging from the fact that he wants Adam to be hard cucked I think his version of the story is being affected by "writer's barely disguised fetish".
>>154257182It’s just I still don’t have a good road on how Eve could be taken and turned into Lute. Like I’m pretty sure no angels have taken humans from earth to heaven and just wait for the winners to naturally die. And those winners lack the corruption entirely. If she was Lute in disguise, she wouldn’t have any signs of Roo in her. Any means of Sera even doing this would be ridiculously out of character and ridiculously questionable since Eve isn’t built for fighting as a soldier at all.Eve being a witch using the full powers of Roo would easily go into hell and use the secrets of the power to eventually be called by Lilith for a deal. And use those means to eventually spark up enough attention for Adam to come into the picture and make a deal with her too.The option I have is Lute being a kind of Eve of her own species but incomplete because she never had her own Adam. Suffered from a similar incident, blamed for it, and punished surprisingly more harshly than Eve. So when Adam appeared to her life, she gets to experience a true sense of love for the first time and doesn’t know how to develop it at all. She after all identifies him with the mask than his actual face.
>>154248693This show is highly satanic because it has DEMONS and HOMERSEXUALS
>>154257246>Headcanon Alert You ain't slick MatPat. You're also not beating the cuck fetish allegations.
>>154252982You newniggers weren't there for his seraphim adam theory
>>154257274Please elaborate.
>>154257239I actually picture Adam with a kind of family that is something of imperfect circumstances.A son that was produced from adultery against him.A wife that is not an idealized Eve, but a massive piece of work that barely knows the basics of being a loving woman.And Adam’s own form is changed to reflect them.Likewise, Cain and Eve would be the opposites. Cain would be the idealized son, conceived from Adam and Eve, and was the tallest and mightest of the batch. But with a mind so twisted and evil by his envy, he does the worst things to the out of place Abel. He bullied him, and said he’s should go to hell and see his real dad.Eve is what I would picture to be the kind of woman Lute herself would desperately wish to be. The idealized wife of Adam. Taller, sexier, prettier, and literally made for him.
>>154257246>Eve being a witch using the full powers of Roo would easily go into hell and use the secrets of the power to eventually be called by Lilith for a deal. And use those means to eventually spark up enough attention for Adam to come into the picture and make a deal with her too.What in the convoluted—>I don’t have a good road on how Eve could be taken and turned into Lute. I’m pretty sure no angels have taken humans from earth to heaven and just wait for the winners to naturally die....Huh? The show has already established that Heaven can bring non-angelic beings into Heaven when it wants to. Charlie, a Hellborn demon, is brought up for the trial. Vaggie, a fallen angel living in Hell, is allowed back in. Clearly there are mechanisms in place for Heaven to transport people between realms. If Adam, Sera, or Heaven itself wanted to grant her some sort of second chance, special status, or role, we've already seen exceptions being made. In fact, the harder thing to explain would be Roo/Evil gaining access to Heaven. That would require getting past a system that has been fighting and containing her for ages. Eve being brought into Heaven by Heaven is far less complicated.>Any means of Sera even doing this would be ridiculously out of character....No? It literally isn't. It's completely in line with what we've seen from Sera. She approved the Exterminations because she believed they were necessary to protect Heaven. She was willing to authorize something she clearly wasn't comfortable with because she thought the alternative was worse. That's her entire character: making morally questionable decisions in the name of what she believes is the greater good. Don't forget what she told Charlie: "There is a lot that you don't know..." before LUTE cuts her off. We know Sera is withholding information. We know she knows more than she's saying. Sera pulling strings regarding Eve sounds exactly like the sort of thing she'd do if she believed it was necessary.
>>154257274!!! tell us!!!
>>154257285So you have a cuck fetish. Do you actually have a partner that lets you watch while you sit on a chair? Or are you just type that consumes massive amounts of cuck porn?
>>154257285>Eve is what I would picture to be the kind of woman Lute herself would desperately wish to be. The idealized wife of Adam. Taller, sexier, prettier, and literally made for him.> **** Lilith is the kind of woman Lute/Eve herself would desperately wish to be. The idealized wife of Adam. Taller, sexier, prettier, and literally made for him.There, fixed it for you
I'm genuinely curious what schizo theories he will come up with once it's revealed Lute is Eve.
>>154257310He'll spazz out, refuse it at first but then make it even more complicated to somehow make the failed Eve Lilith twin thing work.
>>154257310I think he will either fuck off in shame, have a massive sperg out of epic proportions or possibly rope himself. Maybe all three.
>>154256105He was a very very distinctive cadence if you know anything about him and is unable to hide it you utter newnigger faggot
>>154257303> **** Lilith is the kind of woman Lute/Eve herself would desperately wish to be. The idealized wife of Adam. Taller, sexier, prettier, and literally made for him.I could actually see this being the catalyst for Lute/Eve taking the apple. Lilith hyping herself up and lying to Eve that she's inferior and that the apple would make her equal to Adam and her. If she was tricked into eating the fruit by having those two cunts playing on her insecurities it be a very interesting outcome.
>>154257300I’m afraid you don’t understand what love truly is.There is plenty of men out there who had their own wives betray them and suck them dry. I would prefer a story of love that would be the healing of that pain that God truly has the best plans for those hurt men that served him.
>>154257344>you utter newnigger faggotWhat bitch jizz in your fucking cereal today. Aren't you just a ray of sunshine.
>>154257345YES!!! I THINK SO TOO!!!! I think she wanted to be more like Lilith, so Adam could see her more as an equal, someone to match better with.
>>154257346So you're either a cuck or a massive misogynist. Not a good look MatPat.
>>154257345Before that scene happened, Eve did things with Lucifer. So Adam distanced himself from Eve after getting pissed out about it.I think what Lucifer and Lilith promised her was freedom. Freedom to do whatever she wants. Freedom to be out of the chain of heaven and of Adam. For Eve to end up on yet another chain.
>>154257346>Accuses someone of not understanding love >Rejects the idea of Eve loving Adam and grieving over him, and acting revenge because she lost him,>wants Eve to (checks notes) go against her husband in every way possible, and bleed him dry,You're the one that doesn't understand love apparently. Freudian slip?
>>154257362>Eve did things with Lucifer.If you genuinely believed Lucifer when he said he fucked Eve, you're definitely not media literate. Can't be helped there. Also you literally don't know what happened before that scene. Nobody does. We're going to find out.
The dimeless antidraw Matpat vs Glitzernglamour feud is utter ratings poison and everyone involved should kill themselves https://x.com/Lute__CEO
>>154257362>Before that scene happened, Eve did things with Lucifer. So Adam distanced himself from Eve after getting pissed out about it.What in the Wattpad---
>>154257363I have read Samson and Delilah.I am not surprised if Eve turns out to be like this after a thousand years and more of being on her own.
>>154257362Again your not beating the cuck and misogynist allegations MatPat. This is borderline pathetic.
>>154257370He believes that because it's literally his fetish.
>>154257370Yes. Lucifer himself looked ashamed about it.
>>154257386I'm starting to believe that now.
>Lucifer himself looked ashamed about it.....wha-
>>154257370>Abel dies and goes to heaven first>Sera: Adam is the first human soul in heaven. >Implying Abel is not human for some reason. Why is that->Lucifer; or the SECOND. Bowchikawowow>Oh. Fuck you.
>>154257389Fucking retardation. Seriously just go watch some cuck porn and leave us alone. You are killing discussion in these threads with your fetish attention whoring.
>>154257401That's.. That's not what that's implying at all? It's just exactly what it says it is: Adam presumably died first in this universe. No, goddamn it Matt, Abel is not a Nephilim
>>154257401You are fucking delusional MatPat. It's not even funny at this point.
>>154257395Yes. Just look at Lucifer’s face when he says it.I was so fucking mad when I caught it.
OKAYYYYYYYY CHANGE OF TOPIC QUICK UHHHHH,What do y'all think is going to happen with Alastor? Sacrifice himself heroically? Will he fuck the king of hell? Will he fuck anyone? The TV man?? Is he going to rule over hell? What the hell was he looking for on Rosie's behalf? I need the Alastor schizos. Educate me. Give me all the information you got on this fucker.
>>154257421He will become a morningstar
>>154257375I'm pretty sure he probably wrote a fanfic like that then proceeded to furiously jerk off to it.
>>154257421Idk man. Really don't care about the deer. S2 fumbled the bag so hard with him I'm genuinely tired of seeing him. If him and Vox died offscreen I wouldn't even bat an eye.
>>154257419MatPat. You have a cuck fetish. This whole thing is brought on by your sick sex fantasies. Seek help.
>>154257395Notice this. He is all up and confident about the licking pussy gesture when referring to Lilith.When he does the humps for what he offered to Eve. His face completely changes. It lacks the confidence and is full of a lot guilt and shame.I fucking hate him so much. But he’s the devil so it adds up.
>>154257437He won't.
>>154257471He's deleted like 3 twitter accounts at this point, All I remember is he lives in Florida somewhere, besides there isn't anything you can do to make him go away other than not take him serious and not entertain him at all, giving zero attention
>>154257437I have the opposite of cuck fetish that it compels to despise porn to degrees I cannot describe appropriately. But I am certain someone in Viv’s crew thinks it’s sexy because they sure do love their rape porn.Honestly, the only reason I can’t hate it as much is because it makes Abel and Adam a really emotional relationship to me. And see how much lengths Adam and Abel try to shorten that distance between them without either of them realizing it.
>>154257471Jesus will never let you touch me.
Anyway. Lilith and Lucifer... Are they end game or are they going to end up getting divorced??
>>154257501Divorce 100th percent. She's already not wearing her wedding band in heaven. Plus we need her out of the way so Lucifer can have his sexual tension with the deer. Gotta keep the Fujo money flowing.
>>154257501Don’t know. The Rosie Lilith and Lucifer plotline might just end with them reuniting and making up in season 4 like I suspect Adam and Lute will.Or her literally dying.
>>154257512Charlie’s gay dads
Sam implied that the villain in season 4 isn’t Lute and will use a rework version of a scrapped Gravity track as her villain song.So religious imagery and descriptions.
>>154257572When did he imply that it was not going to be Lute? Yes, I do recall him saying that the song that was initially and eventually going to turn into gravity, the first draft, was reworked for another character that he couldn't say. But I don't recall him giving indication that Lute would not be the main bad guy?
>>154257593Well. Think about it.Gravity has two main singers in it.The character he cannot say is singing it with someone and the character themselves has a religious background t behind their lyrics.Roo is the secondary singer.
>>154257608Okay, so that's just your assumption. Well, since it may or may not contain religious imagery and it was a scrapped version of gravity so to speak, and if it goes to Roo, then Lute and Roo could have a connection. AKA Roo/Evil is influencing Lute/Eve, just like in the leaks.
>>154257608Gravity does not have two main singers. I think you need to rewatch the interview. Basically, he started writing out gravity, a version that is different than the final draft, but that first version he put away and reused for a different character. I don't recall him saying anything more than that. I don't think even said it had religious imagery. As a matter of fact, I don't even think he wrote a song, rather it was just a tune, if I recall.
>>154257621Anon. This song doesn’t have Lute being the villain singing it. It’s a different character Roo is interacting with. Maybe someone like Vel or Emily. We don’t know.
>>154257628It’s actually the tune and Patrick Stump’s lyrics.
>>154257643You're assuming he wrote a full-fledged song. If I recall, it was a different rhythm/tune. They put that specific version aside for a different character. I don't know why you keep saying it's a whole song/duet.
>>154257653I'm pretty sure he only said it was the tune. It didn't have lyrics yet. They didn't get that far with that first draft of gravity.
>>154257643I also didn't say she'd be the main villain singing it. Roo would be the main singer, while Lute would be the secondary, like Adam was.
>>154257668Actually, it could be Speaker, it could be Good/God, it can be a non-heaven character.
>>154257677Why her?
>Lucifer becomes a main villain in season 4Would this be better
>>154257653No. Also, you're confusing this with something else. Sam started making the song Gravity. Don't quote me, I can fish out the interview later but, I believe it was. The tune was different to what we know now, and that particular version of the song, which was not even a full song, it was just the instrumentals, was set aside and assigned to a different character, of which we don't know yet. What you're talking about is, Lute had an additional part in 'Hear My Hope', And this was actually recorded with Jessica. I believe Abel had another part as well, but his part was not recorded with Patrick Stump. Sam specifically did not want to add an additional gravity portion to hear my hope because then she'd be singing gravity three times by this point without actually killing anyone. So they decided to cut it out. And also because of lack of time
>>154257681I just listed various characters. I'm saying this song could be a sign to literally anyone. It doesn't even have religious themes. It was just the instrumentals. As far as I'm aware. It doesn't have to go to another Heaven character.
>>154257709Damn, you really do your research huh. Thank you for your Lute tisms
I see season 3 being the place for Lucifer’s and Lute’s payoffs and a reveal about the Lilith and Adam they’re seeing and manipulating them coming from the same evil force.So that seasons 4 and 5 can explore bigger topics.
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