The flaxan leader's armor suit/mech thing confuses me. Is he sitting in the chest? Seems like he'd have to scrunch up in there.
>>154257831maybe he is just a giant wearing an armor
>>154257831Usually with those types the wearer's arms and legs are protruding partway into the extensions.
>>154257831Boob missiles!
>>154257831I will never not finding it incredibly distracting that when the robot suit stepped on that guy's chest, the guy's head morphed into burger meat. Especially since, for some reason, the camera fucking focused on this transformation despite it not making anyway sense. Literally in such a rush to show something gruesome that its just a magic goreification spell that doesn't bother to know what organs go where as long as you show something bloody and squishy. Anyway, have a space fighter that is also a robot.
>>154257831Remember Big Guy and Rusty. I missed cartoons like that.
Let's give this thread a white hot injection of American ingenuity!
>>154260744
>>154259302Nah, he's a regular sized dude. >>154259750Like into the torso? Or do you mean into the legs like landmates somehow do? By the way, look at schematics of landmates or artwork of pilots getting in and out some time. Absolute nonsense.
Come get some
Why do western audiences hate mechs?
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>>154265440I loved the perspective shots in Mainframe shows.
>>154257831I thought he was mostly cybernetic and just sat in it like David at the end of Cyberpunk 2077
>>154266338>David sat in itAnon...
>>154266419Yes?
There was a Netflix show therefore Pacific Rim can be posted on this board
>>154266575David was a torso and head by the end.
>>154267844well thats what i mean
>>154257831love me a mech suit. sad how few people can draw them properly.This one seems plausible, I think he is just essentially sitting in a chair. Keep in mind though, aliens, maybe their flexibility is higher than ours.>>154259750That's the problem, though. The extensions need to be able to bend, HARD, at the point of connection to the trunk. When action figures try this irl, the legs are always immobile for that reason, and AT BEST you get the user's elbow at the shoulder, which.. try it. see how far you can rotate your arm with it bent into an L.
>>154262441this blew my fucking mind. i'd never seen a 'toon' kinda cartoon actually being cool
>>154265637they really took advantage of the kinda shit you can't do in 2d>>154267965I understood you, anon. the only body part required for sitting is the butt.
>>154265750A real shame the show ended on a cliffhanger.
>>154268500ah the great american tradition of not having the skill/budget to render mecha, but... trying anyway.
>>154268527Based and Roughneckpilled
>>154268500Where do I watch this anyway.
>>154271621The whole thing is on the Internet Archive I believe.
>>154271677I didn't know the Internet Archive has shows in it. Thanks!
>>154268410Genndy is a mech connoisseur. It's only natural he'd go on to tackle more action-heavy projects
>>154257831Dexter would be the Mecha /co/ show if Megas XLR didn't exist.
>>154260744>>154261086What are you talking about BigGuy is not a mech he is a autonomous robot controled by the best AI the genious from AMERICA! could provide.
Luv Zoe. Simple as.
>>154262421Into the legs and arms.>>154268398Yeah, it's incredibly awkward even design wise but you look at some some of them and that's the only way they could possibly fit. More likely you've got the wrist operating a grip of some kind in the shoulder.>>154263379They seem to like them ok. The problem is more on the supply side. You've got plenty of incidentals but dedicated examples with rare exceptions are either lacking or poorly done.
>mech thread>dead as shit>"HURR HURR THE WEST TOTALLY LIKES MECHS!! *huffs a FAT load of copium*
>>154273512If they don't like mechs, why are in practically everything?
>>154273761They're fuckin' not? The hell are you on about? And if they do, where are all the western mecha series? Moron.
>>154273827Thought so. You reacted instead of reading. What part of "plenty of Incidentals" do you not understand?
>>154272227And then it never ended. Man that happens so much with western mecha shows. It's hard to name a list of essential ones.>>154272769Anon what would you say are the good completed mecha /co/ series that aren't just an episode gimmick? I know Megas xlr as well but I am curious if there is more. It would be weird if only 1 got made in like 40 years.
>>154274701"Incidentals" don't mean shit, you fucking tard.
>>154274808Questionable on the completed part but there's 2 in-thread, plus SBT. To those I'd add Battletech, though that falls under poorly done IMO. Leastwise I didn't care for it.>>154275135They do when they're a common enough trope they're working them into kiddie shows.(speaking Of which, there's a few of those I could add that are full-on or partial mech series.)
Thoughts on Giant Robo - Webcomic edition?
>>154275411>"They do when [drooling delusional retardation]!"Where is the west's Gundam? Fuck, we don't even have a Macross. There's no dedicated mecha series in the States at all. Quit fucking lying to yourself.
>>154275485What did I just fucking say?
>>154275485transformersi know it's cheating because blah blah takara and the animes, but really as close as you can get
>>154257831
>>154275782You said jack shit. >>154276465That doesn't fucking count and you know it. Fuck you.
>>154260744WATCH THE SKIES! COMING AT VIEW!A HERO OF METAL HUE!
>>154272580The MECH from Ego Trip is pretty sweet as well
>>154272227it's funny since he can't draw them for beans. but he doesn't let that limit him
>>154272769wrist-in-shoulder is okayany part of a leg inside a leg is not. Just hoist them up. maybe you're kneeling in there.>>154275441fucking adore this. Wish the guy would make more.
>>154275485there isn't any anything in the west right nowbut even when there was, we didn't have a gundam because we can't drawI mean, we could draw SOME parts of ORIGINAL gundam
>>154276652always hated that '3d chainmail' shit, but I get it. all comic artists can draw is naked muscles, that's it.also, this image is suited only for Hank Pym
>>154275485>What is Transformers
>>154277897How do you get hired with such a horrible, horrible lack of skill?!
>>154278070Nigga it was the 70s.
>>154278058Nta but Transformers is not at all like macross and only very little like Gundam. I only enjoyed rewatching beast wars.
>>154278078I know but I'm still horrified. The drawing isn't just inaccurate. It is fundamentally screwed up.
>>154277648All right, you want a dedicated mech show? Here's your dedicated mech show.Emmy nominated even. Seems well-suited for you.
>>154278468I accept your concession. The west hates mecha, and we need to figure out why.
>>154268500There was talk of some kind revival/sequel sometime back but I've haven't heard anything more that.
>>154257831It saddens me that any adaptation of Starship Troopers save the Japanese anime had armored suits. The ones from the book had anti personal nukes.
>>154278468I'm not running a concession stand, and I think it's less that they hate it than they a. don't know what to do with it b. already have the heavily saturated jap market to pick and choose from. And again, if they hate it so much, why are there so many non-dedicated examples in media?
>>154262441i loved this thing as a kid
>>154257831i remember really liking the Heavy Gear Cartoon as a kidgiant mechs sliding around with shoulder mounted missile launchers
>>154277811this was so fucking cool, best scene in the movie
>>154281346I remember being so surprised at the existence of that movie, it was just like OH. okay. cartoons get movies now. I mean, THIS kind of cartoon. Silly ones..
>>154281165>>154281165>And again, if they hate it so much, why are there so many non-dedicated examples in media?Because they're meant as a joke. It's farcical.
>>154285846Even in action shows?
>>154265440>>154265451RIP Tony Jay.
>>154287878i'm so tired of saying this butwe only had one of those
>>154268665These eighties shows were often farmed out to Japanese studios anyway... but usually not the good ones.
>>154278115The guy in charge of quality control was hospitalised for pretty much the entire original production run. Poor dude was stuck in his bed watching as the project he was supposed to be running shat itself on live TV.
>>154281165>already have the heavily saturated jap market to pick and choose from.I don't think that's a good argument, america is over saturated with comedies that got imported all over the world but that didn't stop other countries from making their own. Also spaghetti westerns were a thing even though america was over saturated with them. The more sensible argument would be that the higher ups didn't think such a series would get popular.
>>154288239I've rewatched 79 and only a few episodes actually looked bad, the rest of them were good, especially for that time.
>>154288428also modern /a/ mecha sucksit's all soulless cgi, not fun cgi mecha like Zoids
>>154288239a system that has no way of accounting for people getting sick..seems like a kinda bad idea, especially among people who just genetically get sick really easily
>>154288626The new gits looks pretty good and promare has some neat 2D mecha scenes
>>154288639Tbh I think that anons is exaggerating. Gundam 79 overall looked nice and it's easily rewatchable. There are some episodes that Tomino claimed were a shame and disgrace and he wished he could have redone them but that's not true for most of them.
>>154288726hm maybe so. i have heard only bad things about the new GitS but I haven't seen anything myself yet, and I've only barely heard of PromareI guess I'm just generalizing because Gundam hasn't looked cool in decades, just looks like overdesigned skinny chinesey shit now.. and more than anything, the new Patlabor is a patlabomination.
>>154275411>Questionable on the completed part but there's 2 in-thread,Exosquad and Big guy? Interesting, are there any planed mecha for the future? Hasn't Gennedy reached the point in his career where he can just focus on his dream projects? I wouldn't mind seeing him try his hand at a new mecha because SBT was the only serious western mecha cartoon that got close to the kind of story I want to see before it got cancelled.
>>154288821>i have heard only bad things about the new GitSBy new gits I mean the one getting released this year https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nj3wUzHB2U0. I have never been that much of a gundam fan but a friend liked hathaway. Trigger seems to still like 2d mecha so they might make more of it.
>>154288930holy shit. this looks better than SAC. I am stoked. and I don't even really like GitS
>>154277897Scify channel did a live action american Gundam in the mid 2000s, believe it or not.
>>154286487Yes. It's impossible for western audiences to take mechs seriously because of the perception that they're impractical.
I love how a ton of shows stuck references that got me into giant robots shortly before Gundam Wing took off here. >>154265451>>154265440Do you have one of their giant robo from nullzilla?
I found japanese art of symbionic titan which made me happy. That show didnt deserve to die.
The broken gundams in Transformers: The Movie
>>154265440>>154265451This episode lead directly to Mad Max Fury Road
>>154291261Man why does every thread have to devolve into faggots fighting when you could be posting cool shit? Oh right you're all faggots.
>>154288626Granbelm wasnt cgi. I think it might have been thr last one not to do so.
Americans hate mecha that's why that little known franchise called Star Wars never took off here. You zoomies might not remember it but it had things called droids and giant walking robots called ATSTs. I know your attention spans have been erroded to the point of no return but if you need help beint reminded how fucking stupid you are just let me know and Ill remind you.
>>154291507Why did americans let Sbt die though? Americans like sci-fi and mechanical stuff but I wouldn't exactly say they are the biggest when it comes to mecha itself. It's more of a niche for nerds.
>>154291391Neither of those appears to be a Gundam
>>154291549>>154291507Forgot to add with a few exception because yeah yeah Pacific Rim. Maybe they just don't care about serious cartoons with them.
>>154291462>B-but it's cool tho! Grow up.
>>154291261>ha ha that Obadiah Stane, such a kidder!>look at this funny, clanky fellow!And you called me a retard....
>>154268665ExoSquad was a well written war drama. And the toy line was also great, lots of articulation and parts. Very fun. Hard to find though.
>>154291583>>154291549What these threads usually ignore is that Japan has stopped caring about mecha too. The genre is well within its "remake, reboot, or sequel" phase and the handful of mecha properties being released yearly are dominated by legacy properties.
>>154294385But they cared enough for 30 years from 80s to the 10s. Even in the 00s americans didn't care that much about mecha unlike their nipponese counterparts,
>>154294425Ultimately that comes off more as a difference in aesthetic tastes than anything else. Some things that also need to be considered are the crash of Japan's film industry in the 70s that killed off big budget productions and the bubble economy of the 80s that saw the rise of OVA industry being able to massively output to any interest.
>>154294573>Ultimately that comes off more as a difference in aesthetic tastes than anything elseYes, I didn't contest that. Only a few nerds in the west like mecha, I wish Sbt actually reached its conclusion . >economy of the 80s That's why I mentioned the 00s as well, they didn't have as much money but mecha anime were everywhere.
>>154294664The 00s is interesting to look at because it's a confluence of two factors. The revitalization of the mecha genre by Evangelion and the rise of the USA as a profitable export market.
>>154291370>That episode were Lance kills a bunch of bank robers with his robot.
Bump.
>>154293552Never mind that, the knockoff Tech Wars based on the Exosquad made by the same company, Playmates, is also hard to find. Looking back those made pretty good army of red shirts for Exosquad.
>>154290564I do not. Given that my entire first like decade on the internet was spent researching all of that, and the closest to what you're saying was that one movie where the cgi gundam was silver.I definitely would have heard about it, on any of the fucking dozens of fan sites and wiki walks
>>154293671>herp derp let's just draw the arms like a fucking cartoon, like goddamn Loonatic's version of Taz, and then draw lines on it that make it robot arms, even though it is visibly not
>>154299204That looks really impractical and uncomfortable.
>>154277917I like muscle Ironman, its an iconic design.
>>154291560Their proportions are Gundam based. Right even has the tiddy grills.
>>154300352I tolerate it sometimesthe modular armor helps
>>154292954I really like how it made Dynamo and Iron Monger huge AF.Titanium Man was horrible in that show however.
>>154299204It looks like something out of Darksiders from the waist down.>>154292954Which suit is that on the left?
>>154300500>Which suit is that on the left?War Machine.
>>154300522see that one is very impossible for a man to fit into unless the torso is completely hollow, at which point how the fuck does it hold together
>>154291327For me it was MLAATR, the cute robot girl awakened my autism for robots in general.
>>154299204>Chaos symbolNo that guy is in fact that fucking big, that’s just how Space Marines.
>>154300595It's a perspective shot BTW. I had a feeling that would trip somebody up.
>>154301194I mean he's big, but he's not several stories high. I see what you mean about the suit itself.
>>154301246So the head part is not the size of a normal helmet? It's bigger? In that case that's okay
>>154300666I fucking hate Warhammer so much.
>>154291370Gone but not forgotten
>>154301503Yes and no? It seems to be normal-sized whilet the rest of the suit is extremely bulky. But, when they show tony inside his armor, he's basically floating in it because it's adult-sized and he's a teenager, (16 at the start of season 1) plus some virtual interface BS.
>>154302567how much more growing do you think men do after the age of 16, anon?it's showing him floating in it for the same reason it shows his face floating in the helmet with like a fucking.. meter of space around it, in the movies.
>>154300381They're kitbashes of multiple mobile suits including a Rick Dias and Galbaldy β.
Machine Robo: Revenge of Kronos.In my opinion, a way better version of Gobots than the Challenge of the Gobots.
>>154290564If you're talking G-Saviour, that was a Canadian production, I don't think Syfy had anything to do with it.
>>154303194how the fuck are all of those celebrities in something that looks like this, streaming on- sorry, since when does rooster teeth have a platform?
>>154291327
>>154302935I never knew Japan did their own Gobots.
>>154305437I like the smaller scale as well. It makes better use of the terrain. The characters can take cover, or set up an ambush, or enter buildings. I think Hasbro should make a Transformers show about Minicons/Micromasters, and bikes that transform into regular sizes instead of getting huge.>>154302156Warhammer rocked back when it was dudebros throwing everything they found cool into a blender. It is Games Workshop that sucks and blows.
>>154306256Anon...the Gobots are the English version of Machine Robo, not the other way around
>>154272680mmmmmf
>>154302821They portray him like he's a manlet though and yeah, that's exactly what I meant by virtual BS
>>154309384well he is supposed to be young RDJ isnt he
>>154300639Mlaatr never felt like a mecha to me, it felt more like the equivalent of one of those japanese anime with sentai like girl fighters like Bubblegum crisis or Mai hime but lamer and made for a younger audience.
>>154309787that isn't what makes it not mechawhat makes it not mecha is that it's drawn super flat and UPA-style on purpose, and everything she does mechanically is impossible on purpose. it's about as mecha as Inspector Gadget
>>154303194First season was actually pretty alright. Second season was an actual fucking abomination that should've had the entire writing staff executed for it.
>MAWS literally just dropped a Gundam reference and everyone's to busy arguing to notice.
>>154310504i dont watch shows with 'theys' in themthat is pretty nice, but everyone knows this show is animated by asians, so that doesn't really count
>>154310504I mean, the whole show is shamelessly anime inspired. This isn't exactly surprising.
>>154277818Funny, but INSPIRING!
>>154309330That is correct.
>>154300666Anon his head is the relative size of a pea.
>>154309787It seems to have more in common with Astro Boy or Megaman.
>>154265685Toy manufacturers must have really struggled making Superman toys. He's not quite so toyetic like Batman is.
>>154317379When the hell is Peni getting her own ongoing?
Armored bump
>>154315359exactly!
>>154317422Yeah space marines have fucked up proportions. He is still big.
How did this turn out anyway?
>>154306726Oh. But they're same toys.
>>154323882slightly unpopular opinion: the mech designs in pacific Rim kinda suck. They miss the point, they look both huge and tiny at the same time, they don't have the elegance of true mechasame for the recent mechagodzilla, but that one's five times worse. Looks like a kid's drawing run through AI.
>>154272680Very cute, however.
