This was good and I'm done pretending that it's not.
>>154260427The art and animation are good, plus, it's SOVLful but the pacing, comedy timing and characterizations are all abysmal.
>>154260623>SOVLfulBuzzword
>>154260427Guy bait setand now we wait
>>154260427This and Cans without Labels are what happens when John K is allowed to do whatever he wanted. The more freedom he has, the worse he gets.
>>154260427Is it better than the 2020 reboot?
>>154260784Being a John K student made me capable of being highly influential, inspiring works like Homestuck and Steven Universe, while creating highly unique creative setting and stories myself. Is that the kind of thing you're waiting for?>>154261025You're just a gay masturbator looking for justification to seek control in the lives of young artists.
If you went to a party of adults and put this on the TV you would be thrown out.
>>154260427Yes. The Spike TV power ranking goes:> original Stripperella > Gary the Rat webisodes > APC > retool Stripperella > Gary the Rat TV episodes
>>154262182That's not a high bar to clear, anon. And let's not forget who to blame for that complete abortion.
>>154262426oh shit, I didn't realize you made Homestuck and Steven Universe! Fuck. That's cool.
>>154260427From the half I watched, it's better than I first gave it credit for, but the pacing still sucks and it's overall less appealing than the original cartoon. Still Fire Dogs II is bretty gud
>>154262601do you know how to read words? Can you define them without using Google?
>>154262182I dislike APC as much as I love the original, but it at least made me feel something (even if just the surreal experience of seeing R&S remade as outsider art by a less reined-in and more mentally ill John). The 2020 reboot felt like soulless AI-slop that wasn't ever funny or interesting even by accident.>>154260648Go to Reddit if you must play with your phone during summer school
>>154262654What does Rebecca Sugar think of your work? Have any good stories about her?
>>154262667APC was garbage but there were one or two redeeming qualities about it.
>>154262744maybe three
>>154262711I look forward to her suffering for her sins. That will be a good story
>>154262667Oh yeah, APC is amazing compared to the soulless reboot at least.
>>154262744>>154262757>>154262762>>154262774always thought spumco girls were really grotesque
>>154263296There is a grotesqueness to them. ........and yet...
>>154263296I think what defines the Spumco girl design is split between Lynne Naylor's designs (which the original R&S had) and John's, which mostly just use Coal Black as a template.
>>154264288lynne naylor girls are peak. Has she been up to anything in the last few decades?
>>154260427Based
>>154262744>>154262757>>154262762>>154262774Come on, man. Have SOME standards here.
>>154265408Listen, when the west is seemingly allergic to TnA, it really doesn't take a lot
>>154262774That catfight was an unfocused mess where you can't set your eye anywhere, it's just a formless blob.Comparing this to Ren's perfectly paced and built freakout in Sven Hoek is like day and night.
>>154265564Kind of surprising when the man in complete charge of that scene is such an animation genius.
>>154263296John always prioritized "funny" above everything else, be glad his girls still kept some sex appeal.
>>154260623They shouldn’t have made the episodes 22 minutes long, it should’ve been like the original show: two main segments and a couple of filler shorts per episode.
>>154262552>honorable mention
>>154262774>casual nipple suckingI will never shittalk John K as long as I live. Truly a man with a vision.
>>154267573Arlene must have fucking HATED this
>>154267573Not going to lie, horniness aside, I kind of miss the Klasky Csupo style. I wouldn’t mind seeing them try to do something contemporary.
>>154265408Anon's right. The show sucks but the fan service is nice until John K brings in the ugly hairy guy. Same reason why the ad at the end of Cans without Labels was the best part of it. Hot girls are all that John K is good for.
>>154260623>the pacingThis, I dare anyone on this board to sit through Altruists all the way through without setting it to 2x speed.
>>154261025Which is worse in reality; Jenny Jaffe given free reign to turn R&S into a boring writer-driven show, or John K given free reign to make R&S as deranged as he wants, but with some of the worst pacing you've ever seen?
>>154268132Jenny Jaffe is far worse. There’s at least some nice animated moments in APC. The Jaffe r&s reboot has no redeeming qualities whatsoever.
>>154268162Exactly, and APC had at least ONE good episode. (You know the one, but it triggers snowflakes LMAO.)
>>154268132One of the episodes of APC that never got made was going to be based on John's relationship with Robyn Byrd, with Ren as Robyn and Stimpy as John, so definitely the latter.
>>154268830>making up something that was supposed to happen>was never made>was likely never even planned>getting mad about it
>>154260427For all of its flaws, APC is a singular, demented vision committed to by all involved and I can't think of a single comparison point for it. It's one of a kind, needless raunch mixed with incoherent million-dollar-budget insider-baseball (everything involving Ralph Bakshi), and a desire to make an adult animation series that didn't look like crap & also go beyond mere grossout to animated horror (see the unproduced episode with the Children's Crusades).And when looked at next to the reboot, it's practically Citizen Kane.
>>154264405She co-created a forgotten Dreamworks TVA show called The Mighty Ones a few years ago that I've never seen a soul talk about. Hasn't done too much since the 2000s besides that.
>>154269380I can respect some aspects of such a "vision" but APC is so visually repulsive that I find all of it unwatchable. >>154265564>>154265622This always got me back in the days when I was a big devotee of the blog, that for all the shit he talked his actual work was often a confusing mess with none of the "action line" and "solid construction" he'd always bang on about. The Bjork music video is decent but also a giant confusing mess.
>>154262586Has she ever made anything that’s actually good?
>>154264288The girls in Naked Beach Frenzy are mostly Katie Rice, right? At least I thought so.
>>154269708Fuck no!
>>154260427Ranking of episodes:>Very flawed but still with redeeming qualitiesFire Dogs 2Ren Seeks HelpNaked Beach Frenzy >The abyss, shit that nobody in his right mind should watch Onward UpwardAltruistsStimpy is Pregnant>>154268042>the ugly hairy guyNah, that guy is what makes the episode slightly funny >>154269380>Life SucksNow, this is some shit I wish it was animated, no matter how godawful it ended up to be, I rather have this over Altruists any day of the week.
>>154262426You will never publish your so-called cartoon. Might as well kill yourself.
>>154264288Surprised nobody brought up season 2's women, Kilted Yaksmen had some sexy babes.
>>154271421[samefag]BTW, there's something I find immensely charming about how Carbunkle adds comic-esque onomatopoeias to their animation.
>>154271421For me, it would be Cheryl, the catholic high-school girl under PTM's wing and proof the John never tried to hide his proclivities
>>154271492Of course, how could I possibly forget her? She casually passed me by!
>>154260427While not related to APC, you should check out the Japanese dub of "A Yard Too Far", they literally get some chick to do an anime girl voice in it.https://youtu.be/_b7QKIK988M?t=421
>>154260427It was an entertaining self-indulgent trashfire, but it was by no means "good."
>>154269404I saw the first episode of this. Didn’t know that was her.
>>154264288>Coal Black as a template.Good eye, I would also add Hanna-Barbera in terms of fashion.
Bump
>>154271188I do not want to make a cartoon, I don’t want a crew of gays and obnoxious feminist bitches and effeminate buckbroken softboys as you see from the industry and indie.>>154271492Schoolgirl fetishes are normal.
>>154274188Yeah, you wouldn’t stand yourself and you know it
>>154265529Whut?Rugrats or Rocket Power?
>>154260427It wasn't good even by 2000s standards, but not nearly as bad as the recent reboot. Ren Seeks Help & Naked Beach Frenzy are the only episodes worth watching.
>>154275416Neither. It's from "Immigrants: La Dolce Vita" which was an adult animated series created by Klasky Csupo for Spike TV, however despite scheduling a 2 hour marathon for the premiere and ordering 6 more episodes, the series was canceled because Spike TVs animated segement tanked pretty hard. Klasky Csupo ended up compiling the episodes into a movie instead. It's kin dof weird since it's unquestionably the typical Klasky Csupo style, but it features a lot of almost naked girls.
>>154271492Easily mogged by Ms Fussmucker
Fire Dogs 2 is the only really great one the rest is eh
>>154265564Though it was straight up fan service, Adult Party Cartoon was John's original vision of Ren & Stimpy. Stimpy's Pregnant was an actual episode that was rejected by Nick.
>>154276211which just lends more credence to the idea that the success of Ren & Stimpy had more to do with the whole team (of which John K was a part of) than John K himself.
>>154275859Klasky Csupo referencing bukkake. I wonder if that resulted in an awkward conversation between Arlene and Gabor.
>>154276226John K directed every good episode of Ren and Stimpy along with voicing Ren
>>154276211>>154276226This is a gay lieThey tell it because they want to groom young boys to be submissive, which makes them mentally ill from a lack of self-actualization and expression of masculinity.
>>154277189We all know your backstory>>154277112So?
>>154277112Great. Then what happened when John K struck out on his own and tried to continue doing Ren and Stimpy for Spike TV with no restrictions and no oversight?
>>154276512Man, what's the point of having big-tittied chicks if they aren't fluidly animated?
Ren and Stimpy rankingThe Spumco episodes>>>The Games episodes>APC>>>>> dogshit>>>>the reboot
>>154277652“No restrictions”It’s an adult show for an adult block. Are you so immature that you equate being an adult with doing whatever you want and not having to listen to mom and dad anymore?If there wasn’t all the adult content Spike TV wouldn’t have gotten what they asked for.
>>154278992no idea
>>154279396Honestly it was a good thing NBF actually showed nipples.
>>154260427I didn't hate it.
Only good thing that came from it was ralph bakshi taking a shit.
>>154283016Few can aspire to such artistic profundity
>>154277207So he's heavily responsible for the show being as good as it was.
>>154265564>it's just a formless blob.To be fair, that episode was heavily rushed with workload split between Carbunkle and Big Star. (By the time Altruists was completed, Carbunkle had walked away from the show completely.)
>>154260427I think this just proves that K needs to be constantly tard wrangled in order to produce anything of quality.
>>154285798As always this is just wank about seeking control in the lives of young artists, grooming them to feel “this is the right way to not become that evil John K”
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>>154276453Unrelated but I hate that the easiest way to watch this show is upscaled and interpolated to 60fps. Just gimme the original 480p copy but rendered at 1080p so Youtube doesn't brutally pixelfuck it into a blurrier mess.
>>154260427I enjoyed 90% of it. The Beach episode, the house building episode, the fire chief episode, etc. are hilarious. I don't even get why it's disliked. John gives the male audience exactly what we want to see and it's once again the industry blue balling us, preventing creators like John from making entertainment actually entertaining for us. And now every adult cartoon is just a Seth Macfarlane or R&M clone.
>>154260427Alcoholism is a DISEASE
>>154262426>young artistsDude was almost 60 when he made APC
Haven't seen an R&S thread last this long in a while, cool!
>>154260427Ren was not about the Stimpy!
What do you think about John's stage obsessed with mma?He was even working in a project with Slab & Ernie fighting Donald Bastard...
>>154264961on awful taste.
>>154260427It's not bad but it felt like missed potential, both for itself and the industry. I wish it had been more successful so we got more artist-driven adult cartoon instead of the generic FOX slop this board loves to glaze.
