It's probably their most valuable brand other than the Trinity, yet they treat it like shit
>>154260994It’s arguably more valuable than the trinity. The shit was competing with peak X-men in the 80s, which is why they had the crossover.
>>154260994DC is run by idiots
>>154260994I mainly don't get why they haven't had a AAA game yet. The people who grew up on the cartoon have adult money now yet they decide to a Suicide Squad game despite the movie having been panned and a batfamily game when most casuals want Batman, not people they consider to be his underlings.
>>154260994they should make a TT cartoon that actually tries to look like the George Perez artwork
>>154260994Children grow up quickly but adults in leadership don’t turn over as fast
In an era where manga and anime are wildly popular the Teen Titans cartoon was early on the trend and DC's done nothing to capitalize on that. Their comics are always about them being 30 year olds bitching and acting like they are 50 years old, or they try and bring in teen characters no one cares about. It could so easily be a huge franchise and the premiere teen/young adult one in all comics, but they don't do that. Modern Titans stories are just awful.
>>154260994Because DC is run by Marvel rejects who genuinely loathe the franchise and actively sabotage it.
>>154260994DC tried keeping the animated tie-in comic alive after the show ended, but they didn't have enough sales. The markets are just too different. Doesn't matter ow much they tweak their main comic line stuff, the fans want ANIMATION, not a comic.The animated showrunners don't want to make more. You can attempt others imitating it, but that's no guarantee.It's not like theirs a Bruce Timm in the group who's attached to the style, Murakami is basically retired now and Wyatt is dead. Even those SoL Titans comics drawn by Gabriel Picolo seem to have come and gone without a splash.
>>154262749What's stopping the TTG crew from making their own season 6? The Night Begins to Shine episodes show Jelenic still has his "Brave and the Bold" skills and can write a competent action cartoon, the voice actors are all there, so is the animation talent to make better fight scenes than the original had, and most importantly the staff is clearly out of ideas as demonstrated by all the DC characters who've never spoken before becoming reoccurring characters and having whole episodes centered around them.
>>154262880>What's stopping the TTG crew from making their own season 6?Even though they have rerasonable experience, absolutely no one would trust them to and the show would be DoA. Fans of the old series don't understand that the sow creators have worked on other DC shows and the teasing of the old show is done more in jest than contempt,they see it as a vicious parody.
>>154260994>>154262749I'm so sick and tired of this version of the Teen Titans holy shit, MOVE THE FUCK ONEnd TTG, and make a new show, the old show was good, but fucking hell, I hate how every later Titans thing has tried to copy it in one way or another, it's fucking played out by now, I need something NEW.
>>154262880The TTG showrunners never watched the original show when they started making TT.I'm sure they've watched it by now, probably at least to make more jokes, but they didn't make the original show, they make comedies, not action adventures like the original show.>>154262918TTG has kinda morphed into a general DC parody, I've seen it described as "DC Family Guy".Basically in the sense that it takes something from the DCU and makes some lowbrow joke out of it.And it's funny how much they've gotten away from the original TT show, which kept its connections to DC very vague, not really using any A or even B listers, sticking to obscure Titans characters, and now TTG just has Batman and other DC characters show up all the time.TTG didn't even start like that, it just changed overtime once the writers realized they cared more about making a parody of the DC Universe over just making a parody of the TT, if they can use Superman or Batman, why shouldn't they?
>>154263001>ut they didn't make the original show, they make comedies, not action adventures like the original show.Like>>154262880said, Jelenic has worked on other DC shows like The Batman, BATB, Legion of superheroes, and other action shows like Jackie Chan adventures. A lot of the crew on it is the same as other DC shows.
>>154263066I was mainly talking about the showrunners, but also he didn't work on the original TT, that was my main point, those other shows might be similar in tone to it, but they aren't it.You'd need to get Glen Murakami out of retirement for it, and I doubt you could do that.But also holy fucking shit, move the FUCK ON, I'M SICK AND TIRED OF THIS VERSION OF THE TITANS, JUST MAKE SOMETHING NEW.
>>154260994Because Batman & Robin bombed and it made Warner executives afraid of ever using Robin in a movie, making a Teen Titans adaptation impossible. Without a successful Teen Titans movie adaptation DC is never gonna take the franchise seriously.
>>154261064Except the Titans haven’t been popular in forty years while the X-Men are literally a pillar of Marvel.
>>154260994>yet they treat it like shitAppropriately so. It IS shit. It's long overstayed it's welcome. Only tasteless retards like that shit now. That show features THE WORST versions of those characters. Which sucks because those are most of people's introduction to characters like Cyborg and Raven. Not to mention Starfire, which treats her like some dumb child rather than the buxom, bombshell slut she's supposed to be.
>>154260994You vastly overestimate the popularity of this show.
>>154260994Is it crazy to assume this Teen Titans (and TTGo I suppose) being so popular is why every Justice League that has Cyborg in it is a massive flop? It always feels of "DUDE IT'S A REFERENCE, CLAP CLAP CLAP PLEASE CLAP OLDFAGS, CYBORG WAS IN THE OG JUSTICE LEAGUE!" but Cyborg will always be a fun dudebro athlete who's friends with Robin and pals and I will never accept the depressed super intelligent robot with no personality depiction that they keep pushing.
>>154260994The Titans/Young Justices biggest issue is that they're a group that can only form in a DC film universe, if it's already been established for a while. Teen Titans is a film you release in Phase 4 of a cinematic universe, not Phase 1. >Can't have Robin/Nightwing as the leader until you've established Batman, and Dick Greysons falling out with him>Can't have Raven until you've established the supernatural and how magic works in this universe.>Can't have Starfire until you've established aliens and the cosmic side of the universe exist.>Can't have Aqualad spinoff without an established Aquaman first.>Can't want Wonder Girl without Wonder Woman established to exist first.>Can't have speedy without green arrow. Can't have Beast Boy without the Doom Patrol. Can't have Superboy without Superman etc. And because DC keeps failing to get the ball rolling with their big names Superheroes, they're never going to get to the point where they can even TRY to make a movie about their sidekicks forming their own team.
>>154265131That’s how Wolfman wrote him
>>154260994Anon. The show had 5 seasons and a movie. The last episode is about moving on. Take it from someone that loved the series and would love more. It's time to let it go. There's also the games, tie in comics, and even the Primer comic. Various things from the show has been adapted into other things. There's TTGo although whether that's good or bad is up to you. DC may have not know what to do with it but it's not like they pretend it doesn't exist and forgot about it.
>>154265190>Can't have Raven until you've established the supernatural and how magic works in this universe>and how magic works in this universeIt's magic you fucking retard. And you are wrong about everything.
>>154265255Even the MCU gave Dr Strange limitations on his magic, which is why he couldn't just snap his fingers and magic Thanos away.
>>154265131>depressed super intelligent robotHis origin is having scientist parents that raised him to be a genius but without any love so he went to the streets because he was lonely. And then he got betrayed by his street friend and girlfriend. When he almost died in an accident, his father turned him into Cyborg and ruined his chances as a star athlete. At the start he would've preferred death over that. His origin has been nothing but suffering since the very beginning.
>>154265270MCU is trash. Why would you want to copy it? And if you want to give Raven limits do what they did in that TTG episode: everytime she uses her high level spells she gets more and more evil because her inner demon or Trigon or something.
>>154265358>MCU is trash. Why would you want to copy it?Trash that made BILLIONS of dollars. But a formula that DC comics refuses to copy anyways. It would be sooooo simple to make a DC universe work.>Make a Superman movie>Make a Batman movie>Make a Wonder Woman movie>Do a teamup Worlds Finest movie.>Do a Flash movie>Do an Aquaman movie>Do a Green Lantern movie>Do a Justice League movieBut they just refuse to copy their competitions notes, despite them eating their lunch. The first EVER live action Justice League movie lost at the box office to ANT MAN. DC is never gonna recover from that humiliation. It'd be like the first Superman movie sucking.
The only legacy of 2003 Teen Titans is porn.
>>154265691No.
>>154260994Cartoon Teen Titans fags are a special kind of Cartoon Only fags. They wouldn't read the comics if you paid them and the people who do read the comics don't want the cartoon.
>It's probably their most valuable brand other than the Trinity,You vastly overestimate how popular that show was.Any anyway, they are. Its called Teen Titans Go! which is far more important to them than the older show will ever be.
>>154265719I recently got into the original teen titans comics, and OG starfire mogs cartoon starfire hard.
>>154265726No.
>>154265726Even TTG Star mogs the 2003 generic anime girl.
>>154265691It single handedly shaped the public's perception of the Teen Titans
>>154266149Wrong, contrarian
>>154266274No
>>154265255No, he's right. Not about Raven and Starfire, but you can't do Robin, Aqualad, Wonder Girl, Speedy, or Beast Boy without the larger established universe. Or just doing it stand-alone, which I'd prefer. Imply the larger universe but tell a story where it doesn't matter who Batman really is.
>>154268943Beast Boy's ties to the Doom Patrol can easily be ignored. And Speedy, Wonder Girl, Kid Flash and Aqualad are hardly guaranteed to be in a Titans adaptation.You only need Batman.
>>154262941People will move on when something equivalent or better is made.Young Justice was just way too dry and boring, and TTGo is too wacky and random.
>>154269701Young Justice would have probably replaced it for most people if they didn't do the timeskip in Season 2. YJS1 was very popular.Fun fact: the reason why they did such a big timeskip in Young Justice was because Geoff Johns became an executive producer halfway through Season 1 and started bugging Weisman about why he was doing a show about "old" legacy characters like Dick and Wally over newer ones like Tim, Bart and Jaime.
>>154262749>Even those SoL Titans comics drawn by Gabriel Picolo seem to have come and gone without a splashThose comics were some of DC's best selling GNs for years. Beating nearly everything else DC released. It tapped into the young adult market pretty well, but it is just a disappointment the GNs weren't that great.
>>154265190>>154268943I think Robin you can do. Audiences are aware of who Robin is and have seen enough of him on the Titans shows to get that he can operate separate from Batman. People will get he was trained by Batman and that is why he can do the things he does. You don't even need to show Batman like in the original cartoon. Plus he is called Robin and not Batboy. So you have a separation within the name compared to ones like Kid Flash, Wondergirl, and so on.
>>154265719The people who are fans of the show outnumber the fans of the comics by an enormous margin. The only reason Teen Titans has any cultural relevancy at all is because of the show,
>>154261554Damn shame...
>>154265190You can actually just tell a story with them and give the audience the information they need at the appropriate time and it will be fine
>>154265691Wrong.
>>154265096>>154262941Teen Titans 03 fanboys insist the show was some kind of huge phenomenon, but if you look up the actual nielsen ratings you can tell they're crazy. It had a big premiere but most of the audience didn't stick around. Just to prove the point: if you compare their original runs, TT03 had worse viewership than I AM WEASEL.
>>154265221The creator has genuine contempt for working on the show and considers TTG to be an ideal of writing quality. If anything you're saying people should never criticize when they're forced to settle for less than what they've previously been given. Just because you're happy with having nothing doesn't mean everyone else will be
>>154272953Proof?
>>154272993He certain didn't sound very happy about the show in interviewsAlso one old thread had to be deleted one time because the ridicule of 03 fans only stopped after I escalated it to claiming Glenn sympathized with mass shooters
>>154265190You can't just go and make Titans in a vacuum, either, because you'd still be making those decisions about the whole rest of the universe and its history, you'd be starting from a position of cornering yourself.
>>154265190People know what a sidekicks are. And can puzzle out who's a sidekick of who from context clues. The real issue is the non-sidekick characters, but Raven, Cyborg and Starfire are all known quantities among nerdom and it's not as though "Alien" "Half Demon" and "Chocolate Six Million Dollar Man" is that complicated an origin. Biggest obstacle is Beast Boy and honestly, we live in an era of google. The dumbest mfer can take a few minutes ro readnthrough his wiki or have AI explain it to him badly and be about as informed as the average comic reader. It's all a non issue.
I just don't understand how people can sit through Greg Cipes voice acting. Motherfucker damn near ruined TMNT 2012, worst version of Mikey ever and that includes the Bay movies
>>154270481>. The only reason Teen Titans has any cultural relevancy at all is because of the show,The only reason the show exists in the first place is because of the comics.TT03 isn't as great it even popular as the fanboys think it was. TMNT dominated action cartoons before Ben 10 came out
Teen titans 2003 definitely needs a season six focusing just on the titans and their foes because the show was too full of bad plotlines that went nowhere like brother blood or the doom patrol when random filler episodes were way more interesting and creative
>>154264812The teen titans show on Cartoon Network is 40yrs old?
>>154260994Capeshit is a pyramid scheme, the titans are lower in the totem than JL, and Batman editorial would go insane if the power dynamics changed.
>>154273229Just watch TTG, thenAs much as you want to avoid it, they'd have to address the dilution of superheroes into cheap products
>>154273268No one ever considered LoSH to be TT03's spiritual successor and you shouldn't force people into watching that.
>>154273293Watching Legion should be obligatory. It had the best animated Superman ever. Nothing comes close to this. Superman X was cool too.
>>154273373I disagree but I liked Superman in it.
>>154273034>He certain didn't sound very happy about the show in interviewsMurakami? He's just an old Japanese(American) guy, they're naturally low energy and unenthusiastic like that.
>>154262941>MOVE THE FUCK ON FROM SOMETHING YOU REALLY LIKEHow about I dont, what now nigger?
>>154265190>>154273138This is why the 03 show avoided the sidekicks on the maincast except for Robin(who I always argue, differs from most sidekicks because he's not visually or thematically mini-Batman. He's a Robin hood inspired character initially, then veered into the bird inspiration, but that's different from how Kid Flash is literally a young Flash in a Flash inspired costume, Wonder Girl is a young Wonder Woman, etc.)All the characters became broad archetypes inspired by teen shows and movies. Cyborg, Raven, and Beast Boy were all outsiders in the comics, but the show has Cyborg be the popular jock archetype, Beast Boy the class clown, Raven the goth girl outsider. Starfire adapted fast to Earth life in the comics and alien life wans't unusual by then, but the show played up her foreignness like a foreign exchange student. All that helped give them a more broad feel that kept them from feeling like part of an existing universe you had to be familiar with.
>>154274771Then suffer in nostalgia if you're craving and begging for new material. They're not giving it to you. The people who made it don't want to make more.
>>154260994>most valuable brand>show canceled from lack of toy sells
>>154273158Not as bad as DJW's character designs.
>>154273138>Biggest obstacle is Beast Boy and honestly, we live in an era of google.Fuck off moviebob. If a film can't stand on it's own without the audience having to make a google search to understand whats happening and who a character is. It's a bad movie.
>>154274831Iirc the executive producer of the show (not Murakami, Sam Register) didn't even want to use Robin, but got convinced otherwise because he was the only recognizable character.It's funny to think about, but without Robin a lot of people would have probably thought Teen Titans was a Cartoon Network original rather than an adaptation of a DC comic. Hell, I've seen people thinking that despite Robin.
