>two whole shows to develop a relationship that goes nowhereWhat was the point?
>>154268243To waste your precious time, silly!
>>154268243To get people to stop shipping him with his cousin and then realizing that his future son has darker skin.
>>154268243I was so mad back then when I learned that they were breaking them up in OV, and because of the way they did it.Looking back, I understand why they did it, and honestly their relationship was never that good anyways lmao, I mostly just remembered the very few good moments they had, specially that final scene of UA where Julie shows up. But putting it all together, they really weren't that good of a couple.Still wish they would've kept them together and actually tried to improve on their relationship instead of just throwing it away, I remember really wishing as a kid that Julie could've been a more recurring member of the group cause I really liked Ship working as an armor for her, just another missed opportunity, oh well.
>>154268294Doesn't Omniverse introduce a multiverse? Making the worst possible pairing canon to solve a problem you yourself fixed in some other way is just perplexing.
>>154268427Yes, but like many stories with a Multiverse, they wanted their version to be THE main and definitive universe out of all of them, so that meant they had to bring back the original future, even though they still changed it so it clearly wasn't the original anymore.Also ignoring that at some point they also remade the universe anyway and even had to make an in-universe explanation for the art style changes.Honestly learning that the original Ben 10K episode was one of Derrick's favorites really explained a lot.
>>154268541They could just...retconned Ken to not be brown. Hell, if that's non-negotiable, make an OC brown female to be his mom. Bringing back Kai was shortsighted nostalgiawank,
>>154268703>KaiThey brought her back and didn't even bother to make her likeable
>>154268804it's wild to look back on now. they spent seasons building up other characters just to shoehorn in kai as ben's definitive partner with forced chemistry and time travel shenanigans from their future son.atleast julie seemed to actually like ben and didnt fetishise his aliens.
>>154268703>They could just...retconned Ken to not be brown.Does it have to be Ken? How about a new future child for new Julie and Ben timeline? Like a green-eyed hapa girl?
>>154268243I hate omniverse and shit DJW pulled
>>154268294Original Ben 10k future was always alternate. Ultimate Ben 10k future was written not to be alternate but they fumbled on ultimate Ben so they made a third one. Ken being brown doesn't mean shit
>>154268905>Original Ben 10k future was always alternate.It was so peak tho...
>>154268871>for new*for a new
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>>154268871Not him, but lately I've been thinking of how I would make a Ben 10K future with Julie, and I like the idea of them having two kids: One girl with the Omnitrix, and a boy that doesn't want to get into the hero family business but inherits Anodite powers, leading to tension with his cousin, Gwen and Kevin's daughter, who only inherited Kevin's powers, and is angsty about it.
>>154268894And yet DJW had nothing to do with these 2, in fact, he wanted Ben to be a frogfucker
>>154268979>he wanted Ben to be a frogfuckerSource? Based if true.
>>154268979Did he really? That always sounded like a joke that he knew could never possibly happen. So he did Kai because of Ben 10K.
>>154268243Because omniverse is cancer
>>154268243Excellent questionIt's a shame, because then they introduced Ester and is best girl in the show. But had to dump her because ken was fully human. Hell, Omniverse really introduced a lot of best girls.
>>154269088>No kai in sightgood
>>154269005>>>154269023It's true he had a sense of humor as well
>>154269088Why do I have a feeling this was traced from an anime?
>>154269299It's not, but the artist is not subtle at all about taking inspiration from Baki.
>>154268945>a boy that doesn't want to get into the hero family business but inherits Anodite powers, leading to tension with his cousin, Gwen and Kevin's daughter, who only inherited Kevin's powers, and is angsty about it.That's an interesting dynamic. I really like it. It's overdone that kids get their powers during puberty, but I never seen one where they hate the powers they were given. She lost the coin flip and has to learn to get over being envious of someone who has what she wanted.
>>154269100It would seem most fans have gaslit her out of existence.
Never cared for julie all her episodes were shit and ben had better chem with literally any every other girl that wasnt her lol
>>154269135I also think he wasn't a fan of shipping in general, so maybe he just saw Kai as something he had to include out of obligation since he was trying to follow the Ben 10K future.
>>154268243This girl made me end up carnally craving girls with short hair later on.
>>154270971>I also think he wasn't a fan of shipping in generalWorking on Omniverse must have been hell for him, lol.
>>154271056Considering he got to mold the franchise almost exactly into what he wanted, I think he was fine.
>>154271056Also was OV that shipping heavy?I know they basically made a "harem" for Ben, but I always saw that as kind of just another joke, something that the show itself didn't really take that seriously, specially since they probably already had Kai as endgame in mind.
>>154268336I think it would've been better if they kept Julie as Ben's friend that he's a bit more open about his feelings towards. >>154268541>original Ben 10k episodeBut that episode didn't even mention Ben having a family of his own.
>>154271208>OV taking everything as a jokeI feel like that really hold back OV from being good.
>>154271800No, but it set up the Ben 10K future that was later expanded on in the Ken 10 episode.Even if THAT episode also wasn't 100% consistent with the original Ben 10K episode, but whatever.
>>154268243western animation hasn't figured out how to make serialized content yet.
>>154271044She was cute.
>>154271909Go back to >>>/a/ weeb and enjoy your infinite Naruto fillers
>>154268243>two whole showsUA and AF are the same exact show>developThat's a pretty strong word after the Highbreed arc their relationship became unbearable to watch, they should have broken up after the cloning episode.
>>154268804>didn't even bother to make her likeableSpeak for yourself, I grew up watching telenovelas and I like the love hate dynamics it is one of my favourite tropes
>>154268243I'm shocked their relationship lasted as long as it did, they were incompatible from the start
>>154272385What do you mean thinking someone is hot isn't enough to make a relationship work?
>>154271909They have mastered it a long time ago.Ben 10's problem is that different directors had different visions and happily retconned the previous guy's work, creating a giant mess of a narrative.
>>154268243They would have been a good couple if Ben didn't have the watch. For a while, they were depicted as a pretty bad couple. I get why Ben might want to still date her since she is the last girlfriend that he can have who knows him without the watch. That being said I didn't like how they broke up. Also, she keeps trying to give her normie shit the same level of importance. Her new boyfriend is pretty lame. If they are doing a space road trip series, they should explore how she isn't so much of a normie compared to her boyfriend but her boyfriend tries to meet her halfway in the end.
>>154272896>different directors had different visions and happily retconnedThat's how long running serialised TV shows work especially if they have sequels that are treated like comic book runs.
>>154268243Julie was boring and no amount of gaslighting from OV/Kai haters is gonna change that. They should have broken up much sooner.
>>154268243I am no shipper but Julie got robbed. There are several characters I would put after Julie before I think Ben should get with Kai.
>>154273423Ben does end up eith Kai tho.
>>154270435i keep forgetting she exists, such a nothing character.
>>154273359>>154273453Kaifag is here now, great
>>154273489Not the same anon dumbass
>>154269088Look at that thousand yard stare on Ben. Poor bastard has lived through the downsides of having 7 wives.
>>154268871An entire battalion of Spanners appear and fight to ensure Ben hooks up with their own mother.
>>154274623Kino.
>>154269088>Ben double dipped in KINOceleran pussyBASED!
>>154275468You say that like the others aren't already impregnated. Kincelerans just have the shortest pregnancies.
>>154274049He has seen beyond what any of us could possibly fathom, he has achieved total genetic domination and experienced pleasures that go beyond anything you or I could possible imagine. Marital plights are nothing compared to the sheer nirvanic state which he has found himself. He has won.
>>154272106>what Asians think they look like>>154268938>what Asians actually look like
