https://www.marvel.com/articles/comics/midnight-universe-series-announcement-fall-2026>Marvel Comics presents a terrifying new publishing line from a superstar lineup of creators with ‘Midnight X-Men,' ‘Midnight Fantastic Four,’ and ‘Midnight Spider-Man,' all launching same-day in October.>The light had its turn.>For over 80 years, Marvel heroes have inspired hope. This October, that hope dies in the shadows of the MIDNIGHT UNIVERSE, a new publishing line where top creators unleash haunting new visions of Marvel’s greatest icons. The nightmare begins with three titles: MIDNIGHT X-MEN by Jonathan Hickman (Ultimate Spider-Man) and Matteo Della Fonte (Nova: Centurion); MIDNIGHT FANTASTIC FOUR by Benjamin Percy (Punisher) and Kev Walker (Infernal Hulk); and MIDNIGHT SPIDER-MAN by Phillip Kennedy Johnson (Infernal Hulk) and, in his exciting Marvel Comics debut, artist ScieTronc. The debut issues of all three titles will hit stands together on October 7 as the only new Marvel comics released that day, an impactful and rare move reflecting the project’s unique scope and potential to grip readers.>Dark. Unpredictable. Unmissable. The Midnight Universe draws in longtime fans and newcomers alike to enter a terrifying new world where anything can happen. Interconnected by rich lore-building, Marvel’s most definitive modern creators are given free rein to reimagine heroes with shocking twists and chilling transformations in boundary-less, creator-driven storytelling that will keep readers on edge issue after issue. The X-Men no longer fight for acceptance, they hunger for blood. The Fantastic Four venture into the unknown not to save the world—but to unleash terror upon it. And Spider-Man discovers that with great power… comes something monstrous.
>>154270576>“From the original New Universe to two Ultimate Universes, Marvel has a long history of creating and inspiring bold worlds filled with unforgettable characters and fresh ideas that feel new yet recognizable at the same time,” Editor in Chief C.B. Cebulski explained. “With the new Midnight line, we’ve given some of our most outstanding creators the opportunity to delve into the darkest corners of their imaginations and birth some of the creepiest, most terrifying takes on the Marvel Universe you’ve ever seen.”>Midnight Universe Executive Editor Dan Buckley added, “The more we talked about Midnight, the more we realized it was far more than just the birth of another new universe—it was on an entirely different scale creatively, a doorway to something that was not only immediately exciting, but had immense long-term promise.”>“The world these creators are building is truly special and the passion behind the stories they’re envisioning was palpable,” Buckley continued. “We wanted to match their ambition with this unique launch plan, one that allows both retailers and fans to fully immerse themselves into this new line right from the start. When the clock strikes Midnight on October 7, these three series will unleash a bold new energy that we hope echoes throughout the industry for the foreseeable future.”>Befitting the line’s mysterious, ominous aura, the main covers of the MIDNIGHT titles will be Cloaked Covers, partially obscured with the full artwork revealed with a turn of the page. With the exception of the debut issues, the full artwork will remain shrouded in shadow, only revealing themselves to readers daring enough to pick them up on stands.
>>154270579>The shadows of New York City are stalked by vampires and the mutant empyres. The sword of Damocles hangs over the peace between these two species and the factions within them. An outright war is brewing and the unturned will be caught in the crossfire.>On returning to the X-Men to deliver another visionary reinvention of mutantkind, Hickman said, “I haven’t been this excited about a book in a very long time. There are certain kinds of projects that I, and I think most fans, prefer for me to be working on: Ambitious stories with intricate plots and long-form payoffs, which is exactly what MIDNIGHT X-MEN is.”>"I was very excited when Marvel told me the revamped plans for the Midnight launch because when I read both Ben and Phillip’s first scripts—and even more than that when the art started rolling in—I knew that this line was going to be something special,” Hickman shared.
>>154270585>An obsessive scientist delves into the secrets of the universe perhaps best left unknown to mankind, leaving himself and three others warped in strange and horrifying ways. What horrible secrets lie in the new dimensions they have discovered? And can humanity survive the discovery?>On twisting the mythology of Marvel’s original super hero team, Percy said “Let's be honest: any other circumstances, Marvel wouldn't let me write the Fantastic Four. Because I'm too mean and evil for the first family. But this is the dark continuity of the Midnight Universe—a fresh origin story for the characters that channels cosmic, Lovecraftian terror—which makes it a perfect match for me. Mad science and cults and hidden realities await. The pacing is patient and full of dread and mystery and rich with a mythology that will feel both familiar and uncanny.”
>>154270588>A young Peter Parker is transformed into a hideous spider hybrid by the ruthless Oscorp Corporation in their pursuit for eternal life. When Oscorp begins to use the secrets unlocked by his mutation to create more human-animal hybrids, Peter embraces his grotesque new form to stop them.>“Marvel’s putting a TON of trust in ScieTronc and me on this project, and we’re using that trust to make big asks and take big creative risks. I want to see a Spider-Man that was conceived by H.R. Giger, directed by David Cronenberg, adapted for the comic page by Junji Ito. I want Peter’s origin to be so upsetting it haunts me, and to see the Lizard and Doctor Octopus through the lens of a John Carpenter movie or a Resident Evil game. I’m so stoked for readers to see what we’re making.”>“The Midnight meetings with Jonathan and Ben continue to energize me, every time. I want my readers and fans to know I’ve never written a longer series outline than the one for MIDNIGHT SPIDER-MAN,” Johnson added. “By the time the first issue comes out, I’ll have written two 50-plus-issue series for Marvel and DC, but I want and expect MIDNIGHT SPIDER-MAN to be the longest, most epic series of my career… the series on which I bring everything I’ve learned to bear.”
Having Hickman run this is funny because it basically assures you the plotlines will end in a wet fart. Anyway it's>Marvel's AbsoluteI guess.
>>154270585>There are certain kinds of projects that I, and I think most fans, prefer for me to be working on: Ambitious stories with intricate plots and long-form payoffs, which is exactly what MIDNIGHT X-MEN is.I have a hunch that he will try to recycle his robot wars plot from Krakoa. Maybe he'll surprise me, but for now that's where my expectations are at.
>>154270576I don't understand why they would cancel the established popular new ultimate line to do this instead.>>154270594This sounds like shit.>>154270585This sounds good but it's Hickman so it will not stick the landing and be unceremoniously axed a year in with a rushed ending.
>>154271716It diesn't felt like Absolute, Absolute has some edgy and horror stuff but also has shit like Superman or Flash.This felt more like a boring Vertigo , because Vertigo worked by using Animal Man, Constantine, Swamp Thing and Shade, this is using the biggest heroes
>>154270576>The X-Men no longer fight for acceptance, they hunger for blood.Isn't that what they've been doing for the last 20 years?
>>154271731Well when you do this 4 or 5 times and the build up is really good and the ending shits the bed who's still coming back for more?
I wonder what will happen at Marvel when this fails to hit like Absolute did, they are without an Ultimate. The Mouse finally takes stock of the dead albatross rotting called editorial?
>>154270576Shutting down an entire week of releases for three fucking books plenty of people aren't interested in at all is quite the dumbshit strategy. I'll probably read them when storytimed, but I have no interest in getting in on the ground floor of this dumb gimmick, or buying what I'm sure will be 8,000 blind bag covers, so all they're doing is preventing a buyer from getting to read a book they actually want to read that week.
>>154270576I had a look, and even the reddit normies are talking shit about this, and marvel shill redditors are the easiest people to please imaginable.
Shutting down ultimate really fucked them up
why did they shit down ultimate
>>154272000Most of the writers were planning on leaving after the big event ended, so they just said fuck it and canceled it.
>>154270576Woah lets do the dork age again.But this time kill or character assassinate everyone since its AU.
>>154271990They really jumped with no parachute relying on the ongoings and with a hail mary blatant aping of Absolute without appreciating what people are actually enjoying from it.It's not because it's dark Marvel, we've had plenty of 'dark' and edgy shit from both big 2 that doesn't hit like this.
>>154271716Considering how alien vs avengers recycled his sinister plotline yet another time, your theory is very likely to be true.
>>154272060Which is crazy that they couldn’t find any new writers
>>154270576Hard pass
>>154271716>>154271770It's an "Absolute" that has been twisted to fit existing editorial mandates on characters and their storylinesThe very things Absolute was created to operate outside of...
>>154270594So IDW horror comicbooks?
>>154271868nothing will happen because feige will lie to keep the faggots still employed
>>154270594>I want and expect MIDNIGHT SPIDER-MAN to be the longest, most epic series of my career… the series on which I bring everything I’ve learned to bear
>>154273281
>>154271716>Having Hickman run this is funny because it basically assures you the plotlines will end in a wet fartseriously he just utterly failed at one alt universe why the fuck would they give him another one
>>154271788I was about to say, they've long went past the point of looking for acceptance and have been hard set on affirming their place in not just being apart from the rest of humanity, but above it.
>>154270588Cthulhu Galactus makes sense.
>>154270585Vampires vs X-men again?
It's going to be so fucking funny if they still end up getting lapped by DC, especially if it's a week light on Absolute releases
>>154270585>>154273877
Feels fucked that not one of the titles in the initial lineup seems to have a magic angle. You'd think Blade, Ghost Rider, Man-Thing, Werewolf by Night, Elsa Bloodstone, Doc Strange, Moon Knight, or even Black Knight would be obvious entry points for a horror-themed label.
They saw Absolute Batman doing numbers and decided they wanted their own version of that.
>>154274037They never had faith in the dark and occultic side of things being carried by the characters who are deeply involved with it in the first place. Look at how the Midnight Suns game was basically an Avengers/X-Men game with only a few primarily dark magic-related characters, they had no faith in it.
>>154270576Somehow I have no faith in Disney trying to do anything dark or edgy.
is the notion that this is going to be Marvel's "Absolute" mental retardation or just trolling?
>>154270576>the Midnight UniverseWhy didn't they make these three separate, self-contained AUs? Doing a shared universe with these books isn't a good idea, especially if it means the two books that MIGHT be interesting are going to be stuck tying into Hickman doing a derivative idea that's been done too much already, and he's running the show.
>>154270576>Breaking News: Marvel Comics is doing something reasonable for oncebtw, in the original PR, they marketed we'd get full covers reveals only a week or something before their releases/sollicits just because (who the fuck does that????)I guess they reverted it kek>>154270579>Midnight Universe Executive Editor Dan BuckleyI thought they fired that guy or am I misremembering
>>154274999Its because they are getting into a scandal this week for not paying some of their less famous artists. Gotta distract. Same reason Rockstar made a big deal of the GTA 6 cover art to force news of them losing a court case for union busting down out of front pages on news feeds.
>>154273094Feige already fired Dan Buckley. These niggas aren't safe.
>>154271763>I don't understand why they would cancel the established popular new ultimate linethey didn't cancel it, they legitimately treated it as a literal 2 year contractand when it succeeded they didn't even bother to extend it>>154273281>>154273366that's a really bold ass claim PKJ>>154274037this, you could have moved Moon Knight in there and give anyone else an ongoing because most of them had none for a while now
>>154270594Despite the plot being beat for beat generic Kamen Rider he sure went out of his way to compare to literally everything but Kamen Rider
>>154273944Selene if she didn't have a bunch of weird shit tied to her and wasn't evil.
>>154275497Just wait. One of the scientists involved in his modification is Dr. August Hopper and the final opponent will be Shocker.
>>154275497Erasure of Toku is par for Marvel's course, look at how they shafted Supaidaman
I wonder how self-conscious it makes the people in the Marvel offices that within minutes of them announcing something new it will be universally panned on the daily for half a year before it's even been released. It's not just that they have an expectation to deliver something good; the readership by and large has zero confidence that Marvel is even capable of delivering good things, and that negative expectation is what they've got to beat.I don't know how they get past that without some thorough (and publicized) housecleaning.
>>154276329They don't wholly own the rights to him since he's also a Toei character so they rarely use him
>>154270576>great creative line-up>replacing commie camp's socialist revolution universe>full on horror and not just grimdark like absoluteWhy am I supposed to hate this?
>>154276873Because it’s /co/. They hated Absolute too when it was first announced and swore up and down it wouldn’t last six months. A lot still do because it’s popular.
>>154270576I can't believe they killed the Ultimate universe for this.
>>154277047>why did they get rid of a huge piece of shitGee, I wonder.
>>154277047I don’t think they killed the Ultimate universe for this, I think editorial was salty the Ultimate books were selling so much better than the regular books so they shut down the line, that line being the only thing from Marvel that sold DC had started consistently winning the market share and Marvel panicked and whipped this up to replace Ultimate…I think all of them getting pushed back to October is evidence of how quick this was whipped together
I know its just Marvel shitting themselves over Absolute demolishing them in sales but i don't see that much of a draw here. X-men and vampires again? why do they keep pushing this forced meme like some editor really wants their fan fic to happen? Spider-man but miserable? yeah we have had that for like 20 years my man and maybe if Mignola was involved lovecraftian fantastic four could be neat but its farm more likely to feel like a rejected Marvel Zombies pitch or a FF parody from something like The Boys or The Authority.It would be very nice if these surprise me and they are all great, god knows Marvel needs more wins and not nearly enough people are reading the gold they are putting out like The Mortal Thor but just imitating DC feels desperate.Like you want dark, horrific Marvel? we had that and it was called The Immortal Hulk and it was considered Marvels Saga of the Swamp thing for the first half of its run. Maybe just have more of that without trying a new imprint to copy others? Why not some actual dark, emotionally complex narratives like those early IH issues like the famous "Hulk can smell the gamma coming off this young boys grave and the reasons why are horrific" stand alone issue?Shit remember those Darkholde issues and how the Iron man one was a critical darling? the potential is absolutely there these just seem either too safe or again feeling like someone trying to push their fanfic for summer slam. Again.
>>154277234Hell, Current PKJ hulk/infernal is basically a prototype to this. Hulk wanders through rural america fighting cryptids, monsters and eldritch aboninations.
I wonder if Marvel even understands why Absolute dominates comic book sales. Surely they don't think its just "a return of 90's edge" and didn't look into it further right? surely they must consider why those books are selling when the world at large is as shitty as it is right?You read Wonder Woman and shes talking about love, Kal El talks about kindness and Batman worries about getting his friends hurt. This used to be the domain of Peter Parker, Thor or a third of the X-Men before they all got written like 'prestige television' characters.Absolute works because their dark settings allow heroism to shine. The mainline books feel off because the real worlds in a shit place. Why doesn't Superman do more? why is Batman not dealing with corruption? what the fuck is Wonder Womans ethos beyond a general 'punching big dudes'?By remaining kind, sincere, selfless and noble in a world that has beaten that out of everyone they stand out all the more as heroes we want to believe in, that we wish could exist because they are literally super heroes.If they don't understand that this is going to feel like some shit like throw The Boys and Witchblade/The Darkness in a blender.
>>154277396>I wonder if Marvel even understands why Absolute dominates comic book sales.no, they don't
>>154277386Ah ahah but heres the rub friend, the mainline largely exists as MCU advertisements now. Can't have much of this without Joe mouthbreather who buys maybe five comics in his entire life being confused by mark ruffalo is fighting something that isnt a blue energy beam in a city center.
>>154276730They didn't muzzle their Slotts and Brevoorts who have worked as battery acid on good will between fans and editorial, couple that with increasingly controversial decisions and incredibly middling runs as 'highs' - right when DC is knocking it out and riding waves of goodwill from fans proving it's not just a comic book reader thing, and you see the problem is just a deep rot collected at the head.
>>154275621>"DIE SHOCKER!"
>>154274627Midnight Suns was so cooked by editorial, the dating sim angle was cut due to lacking Marvel approvals.
>>154274627>Midnight Suns game was basically an Avengers/X-Men gameMan that bugged me.
>>154274856bothyoung’uns are too retarded to make a distinction
>>154270576The last paragraph of the OP sounds AI-written. Combine that with it being an obvious trend chase of Absolute, and any interest I might've had evaporates.
>>154276730They just don’t care. Ez.
>Marvel Horrorverse.DC did it better.
>>154277396Probably not, I wouldn't be surprised if they saw it for the monsters.
>>154278286not really>hey here's a horror Earth>barely does something with it
Why don't they take this talent and just make an imprint for their normal horror charactersFold in the next Moon Knight relaunch, take Strange out of Asgard, do another Blade book, do a Ghost Rider bookDon't let Percy anywhere near it
>>154278414for a week before the reveal, I thought too they were about to do a refresh line on these characters
>>154278414Because it's not really about writing good horror or themes using the legacy dark and horror characters they have effectively, it's about using their big names and trying to ape Absolute on the most surface level.
>>154270576DC doing an Evil Universe thing was interesting because the moral arc of the DC Universes have always been explicitly Good.This shit just doesn't seem interesting because Marvel was always about 'Le Morally Complex Characters'. So the X-men are vampires? You're doing body horror F4 and Spider-Man? Who gives a shit? How is that compelling? Absolute was doing different things with DC characters but this just isn't that different.
>>154278653They're not trying to replicate Absolute no more than with the recent What If's that have been coming out in the past couple of months.
>>154278697The amount of evil shit the Marvel characters have done over two decades and just moved on without consequence means this is just another Tuesday.
>>154271763>I don't understand why they would cancel the established popular new ultimate line to do this instead.The blurb for Midnight Spider-Man describes Peter as "young." That's why.
>>154278697Absolute also has a very simple what if question for most of their premisesWhat if the Waynes weren't rich, what if Kal grew up on Krypton, what if Diana grew up in HadesThe books that have gotten away from the core simplicity are doing worse, quality or lack thereof notwithstandingThis shit sounds like its got hats on top of hats on top of hats from the start
First look at the Midnight F4. Not really doing anything all that visually striking
>>154278929So the young crowd are going to relate to a Cronenberg?I mean they could, anyone can relate to a rock with a doodled smile. It's art and humanization, this appeal to demographics rather than universality of the Human experience lived is what killed Spider-Man and it's killing the rest of the line.
>>154278973Mr Fantastic looks like a Chad edit, their emblem is corporate soulless which I hope is the point.
>>154278973ABSOLUTE MR. FANTASTIC
>>154278697Marvel's secret 2028 plans:>What if we did Spidey Get your Gun, X-Men-Files, Avengers of the Caribbean, and Fantastic Prisoner #004: Mienu?
>>154270594>>154275497The plot of Midnight Spider-Man sounds like Kamen Rider Shin: Prologue. Down to the "grotesque monster form" and focus on adult themes, edge and violence.https://youtu.be/_5cNHelIsI8?is=v7Ba2nY3u3dwe_BV
>>154270585>>154270588>>154270594GAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
>>154278973the 4 logo is neatnot sure i like Ben being Gray
>>154280487Spider-Man but Kamen Rider sounds so good, but I feel the actual comic won't be.
>>154280570But Dauterman isn’t even on art!
>>154270576>a terrifying new world where anything can happen>except heroes having original villains
>>154278944AMMH is both more complex and simple.
>>154270576So this is Marvel's Dark Universe or whatever?
>>154270585>Dracula>>154270588>Cthulhu>>154270594>KafkaWhy would any of this matter?
>>154270576So what makes this any different from the Bat who Laughs verse?
>>154284381Not much, they seem to be going with the pop culture version
>marvel fucked up the ultimate line so royally they're doing a response to dc's response to their extremely successful alt universe line they unceremoniously killedmake it make sense folks
>>154284477Marvel Editorial is a headless chicken, out of ideas but too insecure about their petty fiefdom admitting in new blood they just double down on managed decline.Ultimate a success? Learn nothing from it. Don't introduce any elements from Ultimate into our ongoings. Give everyone a secret cousin.
>>154284529Even Mike eventually died when he choked on his food
amazing how much intrigue this got when it was first announced and how fast no body cared
>>154284561Poor fucking Mike, man
>>154270594This is like the third time this year Hollywood has stolen one of my ideas. I bet Uncle Ben is alive and he kills Aunt May in the one like I pitched a couple months ago
>>154274037That would make sense and fit the theme better but it's just them trying to do their own Absolute line without just resound Ultimate Marvel
People praised Absolute Batman too much.
>>154270579>immense long-term promise.”Holy fuck someone fire all of them
>>154273935If they get mogged by Absolute Flash and GL it'll be funny
>>154274037Anon I think the Imperial bomb made them scared to take chances on minor characters
>>154270576This is some grim and gay bullshit and I hope Marvel collapspes.
>>154270576I feel like on paper this SHOULD work considering Marvel's horror roots but it's not gonna work for the same fundamental reason Ultimate 2.0 struggled.You can't make a Marvel continuity without adhering to "the world outside your window" framework that juxtaposes Marvel to DC. Marvel's success has always been in grounding itself to be emotionally believable and "realistic". Whenever they go against this creative philosophy, interest wanes and sales decline. We saw this happen with the MCU too.I feel like the original Ultimate continuity initially had the right idea but everything got fucked over by 9/11 and Marvel hiring jingoistic writers alongside anti-America writers as well as the leftover influence of 90s edgelord slop.Absolute DC is working because unlike the mainline continuity, the characters are evoking the narrative throughlines of their Golden Age days and the various media that inspired them, offset with contemporary influences.
>>154271731stop obsessing over your single idea, this book is about fucking vampires.
Hey guys I'm pre-judging this entire line to be shit, am I cool now?
>yet another Hickman thingLol does Marvel seriously just not have anyone else?
>>154280652>not sure i like Ben being GrayAt first I read this as "not sure i like Ben being Gay" and I just kind of shrugged to myself and thought "where did they say he was gay? Oh well, I guess it's fine if it's the Jew."
>>154270576>>154270579>>154270585>>154270588>>154270594of the current three launch titles I'd say Midnight Spider-Man feels the most interesting*, as it has the strongest core premise(Midnight Fantastic Four doesn't really feel like it changes enough from the classic version while Midnight X-Men just feels needlessly convoluted as a premise**)*even if it is so close to being the premise of a Showa Kamen Rider series that someone involved with Midnight Spider-Man has to be at least a bit familiar with Kamen Rider**having both Mutants and Vampires around at the same time just dilutes the concept needlessly, especially since they're clearly trying to apply vampire imagery to mutants in this scenario>>154287391>You can't make a Marvel continuity without adhering to "the world outside your window" framework that juxtaposes Marvel to DC.eh that worked for Marvel's first couple decades but in the modern day I'd argue trying to hold to that premise is hampering Marvel rather than helping it
Didn't the last universe hackman made turn out to be a huge flop? Why are they trying again. Especially after his space shit flipped
>>154288577No, it did well. Just Absolute Bats/Supes/MMH/WW ended up doing better than it and then marvel ended it earlier than fans and some writers thought. But Ultimate Wolverine was up there selling alongside Absolute and X-Men apparently did really good in trades..
>>154284477Absolute was supposed to come out first but Didio getting fired and 5gs plans getting changed made them hold off
>>154270576there are written by AI right?
>>154288734Please don't insult AI like that
>>154284529>Don't introduce any elements from Ultimate into our ongoings.Last time they did we got Miles.And is there really anything from the new Ultimates that's worth bringing over?
>>154270576what the fuck is midnight universe>The nightmare begins with Jonathan Hickmanlol fuck off
>>154278286I miss multiversityReading it in high school got me into grant Morrison and hypercrisis
>>154280487This was my exact thought as well and I'm glad someone thought the same, although the more you think about it the more that this is also just 2099 through a more horror-themed lens. Not that it wholly discredits the comparison since that also had a lot of MOTW for a bit there as well.
>>154278973Sue is looking THICC like a drumstick
>marvel doing a absolute run>hickman This series is going to end like a storm of diarrhea isn't it
>>154284339I don't think Midnight will be quite that much of a stillbirth.
>>154289490Parker marriage and children, the obvious and only really draw of the Hickman Spider-Man.Anything is better than the current SECOND bout of secret long-lost relative slop we are getting for #1000. No no sense of shame or self-awareness in that place. There is nothing left in that fucking office. Pull-up. Abort. Abort. Abort.
>>154287530No, you're just being realistic.
>>154289490AI Peter is the only one that's worth it, and he'd probably be better for a horror story.
>>154288631Yeah the notion that the ultimate was a failure sales wise is weird because the only book that wasn’t getting top 50 consistently was black panther
>>154276873>great creative line-up>Hickmanno
>>154291591Neg diffed by the Maker
>>154293484>one out of three means the whole thing is bad
Honestly the only one im interested in is Spider-Man but that’s because I like infernal hulk
>>154294124>one out of threehe's the one in charge of it all
>>154273372For marvel they only saw the sales of the issues , they didn't give a fuck about the universe.
>>154276873>great creative line-up>Hickman with MORE Vampire vs Xmen>Percy writing a genius character in horror stuff after how much he butchered BeastPJK is alright and fit after Infernal Hulk but let's not kid ourself
>>154278973Better look?
>>154295288Reed looks like he was drawn by an amateur muscle fetishist not with the intention of looking “scary”
>>154290542>The nightmare begins with Jonathan HickmanDoesn't it usually
>>154293806Everybody gets neg diffed by the Maker anon.
>>154272952same
>>154287530Shut up, Hickman
>>154295288>>154278973I was expecting so much more than a simple suit redesign
>>154295288Wait what if Midnight is less about extreme edge and more about the same noble heroes in a darker world. Like Reed is still going out and zapping weird shit with a science rifle except this time the weird shit is Cthulu instead of negaverse monsters.
>>154300852That would be cool and actually would be like a positive aping of Absolute.But we are talking modern Marvel. Near everyone here has a run where they stopped giving them the benefit of the doubt. As it stands if Midnight is good or is largely good, it will come as a very pleasant surprise to me, unfortunately it's uphill for the battle as little of the premises really appeal to me personally, it's not overly different from output of past years other than an emphasis on horror aesthetic.
>>154278697>>154278895Yeah.Spider-Man sold his marriage and unborn daughter to Satan, tried to kill a kid in Superior, punched a grieving father, and punched a woman to death.And that is just Spider-Man.Marvel superheroes commit horrible atrocities and war crimes all the time.The “opposite” of Marvel would be heroes that aren’t pieces of shit.
>>154301679Hulk isn't a piece of shit
>>154302235Hulk has been our best boy barometer since Civil War if not earlier.Everyone being an out of character dick due to EVENTS? Hulk come back from space to flatten the illuminati.
>>154302718And then joins them and gets wrecked like a chump.
