I just flipped through Ultimate Endgame and Finale, but I saw>they use time travel to fix everything>peter's daughter becomes loli benom>final page is the ultimate universe will returnWhat the fuck are they thinking? Why continue this after they've killed off every ounce of goodwill and pissed on everyone?
I don't really have context for any of this, btw. There also seemed to be a young Dr. Doom talking to I think the Maker? I definitely didn't understand that. Like I said, just flipped through it.
Don't leave us hanging OP, what about the staggering low IQ commentary everyone loves Camp for?
>ultimate is so dead people don't even care about leaks>even the leaks saying its continuingWow.
Maystorm
>>154278968I didn't read them, anon. I just flipped through to see what happened at the end. Peter is alive via time travel.
>>154278607>Not the EndingThey always say that to imply a sappy happy ending, they brought all the 1616 Ultimate characters back to life for their last issue
>>154279178>they brought all the 1616 Ultimate characters back to life for their last issueNo, they didn't. Ultimate End isn't 1610 canon. Even the follow ups in Cates Venom and Bendis's Spider-Men II kept the deaths.
>>154279156They should have kept Peter alive and gave him a bigger role for the final battle.
>>154278607What about Hisako and Richard?
>>154278607Fumble of the decade
how?>t. newfag
>>154280106Agreed
>>154281599It's a big country so some stores will get their copies in earlier than others. They all have to get them by Tuesday so they can be stocked on Wednesday.
>>154278607>>peter's daughter becomes loli benomWhat happens to our boy Richard?
>>154278607Post images?
>>154285898>>154280795I just flipped through it, I'm not buying this shit. I picked up Venom and Spider-Versity, as far as big two goes.
>>154279058The Ultimate line is confirmed to be dead though. Marvel prematurely confirmed the entire Ultimate line was ending and it basically killed interest in the entire Ultimate line despite it not even being halfway done yet.
>>154278607wait this came out? I sorta stopped caring.
>>154288081>I picked up spider-versity
>>154280841Anon Marvel refuses to let a side universe stay better than the mainline.
>>154288222The final page is literally that the universe is returning. It's one of those white pages Hickman loves. I genuinely don't understand what they're doing.
>>154278607Goatee-less Tony was a good indicator that this entire line was worthless. Same as handlebar stache Torch and North's crap FF run.We should learn to judge books by their characters' facial hair.
>>154288842coming out next week
>>154290226Meh, Mustache Tony is better than Goatee Tony
>>154289087They have no plans in the immediate future to make more Ultimate books but want to keep it open to come back to it when people start to have nostalgia for it again. It’s not rocket science.All you hype bandwagon jumping motherfuckers never learn your lesson and always act this salty when reality gives you a smack in the face. Hickman always disappoints. Hype makes you completely delusional and ignorant of the flaws of the story. You always end up being a sour, pissy fanboy afterwards because you feel humiliated. It’s time to grow up and act like an adult and not let excitement control your mind.
What happened to Gwensterio?
>>154291119Wrong!
>>154288081Anything about Venom?
>>154292296Dylan takes Toxin from Rick
>>154293024Sleeper is still hostless?
>>154278607I want to believe it.
>>154278607>third spoilerI can't, they are so goddamn dumb.
>>154278607Camp sucks hard when he doesn't have an artist carrying him.
>>154278607>Iron Lad literally had the Immortus Engine.>Surprised that everything is solved with time travel.The ability to connect the dots has gone to hell, or what the hell do you find surprising about this?
>>154293024Musical chairs shit.
>>154296959In Spider-Versity, it ends with Spider-Loli getting Carnage.>>154296779The surprise is that they're going to tease this stuff continuing after burning every bridge.
>Do a "muh young people" story>Doesn't use the X-men, which are mostly OG characters.>Use rewamps of 1960's characters and America ChavezWhat did Camp meant by this?
>>154296779Iron Lad becomes Kang, a villain. This is rushed post hoc damage control.
>>154297031May having Venom and Carnage as her symbiote picotech ai pets would be kino
>>154278607This whole thing was incredibly creatively bankrupt.
MJ goes to Flash for help right ? Or is it her new boyfriend?
>>154300302Your greatest hero looks like this in MCU. No one is dying for Israel.
>>154278607Sounds about right with any story prominently involving time travel and manipulation. Guess we'll see if it's true soon enough. I can barely muster much feeling beyond wanting to see this through to the end out of sunk cost fallacy.
>>154300302No?
>>154289087>I genuinely don't understand what they're doing.It's simple. Buckley's sacking has them scared. The new boss takes full control next year and if they don't deliver serious revenue by then, they'll suffer the same fate as Dan. Continuing with Ultimate is nothing more than a last-minute desperate move.
>>154304222BREAK GLASS IN CASE OF EMERGENCY
>>154305064The real glass in question for that should be undoing ASM #418 and OMD.
Venom May
Guess who?
>>154306773Interesting, but dumb that they're pulling this. We all kinda expected it, but dumb.
>>154307171It feels like they told Camp to do a last minute break glass in case of emergency ending now that firings are happening and sales are down the toilet
>>154306773I dont get it.
>>154306728>>154306753>>154306773Can you please post full spoilers, please? I can't read so small. Well, I have to say, I was expecting something about Peter not dying here. So this is not a big surprise. Want to know all the details from the Ultimate issues, please. >>154293024Mora info, please.
>>154306728BRUH!!!
>>154306773Interesting, so it 100% continues?
>>154309240No clue. It seems they ended it like that in case they need to return to the new ultimate universe for a cash grab.
>Paul died alone and for nothing, and everyone laughs at him>Peter comes back and just resumes his life as usual, to the adulation of countless fansPaulfags keep eating shit!
>>154306773>Ultimate Victor Von Doom at the very last issueI mean, I expected something about him, but this still caught me off guard.Anon, if you can still post spoilers, could you please share with us what happens in the Ultimate X-Men portion? I didn't like that Peach just threw a new villain at the end of the run, so I want to know what happened.
>>154305110Get fucking over it already.
Can we just get the real Ultimate Universe back? I want Earth-1610 not this shit.
>>154306773So that has to be that universe's version of Victor. My mind initially went to the universe's version of Richards that the Maker tortured into becoming Doom but the translated Latverian suggests otherwise.
>>154310176Not much point in doing that when The Maker is a certified jobber and Miles glazer.
>>154309775That secular jew has never been the same ever since he was buried as a christian.
>>154310176That was what we were supposed to get until cates life fell apart>Relapse back into hard drugs and alcohol>Shit on your bosses rug during a party>Get fired>Wife divorces you >Get replaced on all your books>Even your creator owned books either rush and end or have no ending>Try to write something else while in a car>Get into an accident and laptop gets slammed into your face giving you more brain damage than the drugs did
>>154278607>Loli BenomFor real?
>>154306728OH MY GOOOOOOD.
>>154308734>>154310015>>154310633Isn't that 616 Victor? Isn't he a kid now?
>>154306728So the spoilers are truth?Time travel is so cheap.
>>154310079If you reply you agree that Brad Winderbaum and Brian Michael Bendis deserve to be able to sell Miles Morales to Sacha Noam Baron Cohen who is Mephisto in MCU.
>>154313094No, Doom is still in hell as of Armageddon/Captain America in 616
>>154279058>>154288222Probably if Midnight Label fail,Marvel Will release "Ultimate Rebirth" line praying Absolute is too old to be as Big as is now
>>154288222>Marvel prematurely confirmed the entire Ultimate line was endingThat made me so fucking mad
Has Camp written anything good besides Absolute Martian Manhunter?
I know that this has been the case with editorial but I’m still gonna say editorial pisses me off
Wait did marvel say anything about putting the ultimate line on webtoons?
>>154306728Uoh ToT
>>15431458420th-century men was all right
Happy Juneteenth Black Panther>what did he mean by this??
>Ultimate Spiderman>Ultimate Xmen>Ultimates>Ultimate FFpitch the authors who will work on the 2027 relaunch.
>>154316513Zeb wellsGail Simone BendisRyan north
>>154311829that was some serious black magic sick shit
>>154310176I never fucking thought I would ever wish for 1610 back but 6160 is such a shitshow it doesn't deserve the moniker Ultimate. The Makerverse is just depressing garbage and no, married Peter isn't worth it. At least 1610 wasn't a cavalcade of "Remember this? We tortured and killed them just to upset you."I don't for a second believe Donny Cates getting brain damage meant no one else could revive it.
>>154308734Well you see, you put the action figures you like the most in a jar and...>>154316513ZiglarOrlandoBendisI don't know the worst FF writers to call this one.>>154317306>At least 1610 wasn't a cavalcade of "Remember this? We tortured and killed them just to upset you."You might be as brain damaged as Cates.
>>154278607 LEAK THE WHOLE FUCKING BOOK THEN DUMBASS OR PISS OFF.
>>154314179Then who is the kid?
>>154317782OP said multiple times he just flipped through it. He doesn't have it, someone else does.
>>154306728Cute
>>154317964then get the peson who does have it and and get him to leak the rest of the book hop to it anon.
>>154317782>>154317964OP obviously works at a comic shop. He can't take it home and he can't take pictures of the entire thing at work, his boss would probably fire him if he was caught because he'd be the one punished if Marvel figured out where the source was.
>>154317933A Doom clone, but he doesn't have any of Doom's memories
Does MJ go to Flash or someone else to be the new boyfriend tease since Felicia will also be fucking Frank.
>>154318334He said he bought other books >>154288081 his store is obviously breaking street date.
Marvel BTFO by DC Ultimately Absolute DC Victory
>>154318405They said pretty clearly that MJ isn't interested in Flash in the slightest.
>>154317782>>154318307Sorry but we don't leak books to PEDOPHILES. Ask the child rapist Gwenschizo to leave, and we might consider it.
>>154317488... and what? Was it supposed to be a big surprise that a major character who wasnt in the story at all shows up at the end of it? Who gives a fuck. Almost as big of a wet fart as the Tony being Kang reveal; everyone knew it was coming from a mile away and the only surprise was that the writers thinking readers would be shocked.
>>154318447White said keep reading
>>154318549There's no subtext here. It's literally just text. Flash is probably interested. MJ isn't though.
>>154318432>spend decades falling behind>spend years and years literally not even in the Top 30 each month>get a year or so of dominance by the other guy basically being a retard>"ABSOLUTELTY DC VICTORAAAAYYYYY"I know it's just (You), the one autist doing this, but Christ are you an annoying faggot. Go on Intern, post the >there's no stopping us nowpic. Cliche shill.
>>154318584DC won bigly
>>154318549MJ has made it more than clear.
>>154318569Paulbros... we betrayed Paul to get on the Flash train only to get nothing...
>>154317782>>154318307Kek, Gwenschizo seems PRETTY upset by the reveal that Ultimate is continuing.
>>154310015it feels so weird. The Maker got rid of various names, including Namor, but somehow Victor, his rival, is fine? i seriously thought they were saving Victor's reveal as some sort of tortured prisoner of war for The Maker's own sadistic pleasure or something, but he looks totally fine
I hate that my only interest in this is just to see how big of a train wreck it will be.
>Walking back on the ultimate universe ending >replacing jrjr 1000th issue cover Walking back on replacing jrjr 1000th spider-man cover Editorial is in shambles I can feel there’s a change coming soon
>>154319143Buckley getting sacked really changed plans.
>>154319342Good more of them need to get sacked
>the ultimate universe will return
>>154306728>>154319872UUUUUUUOOOOOOHHHHHHH
>>154318462this kind of talk does not belong here here quite frankely it does not belong more.And whast's more we are sick of this and YOU most of all. Now do this and again and we will get the mods/jannies to ban you for good.
>>154318834OG Ultimate Universe Reed and Victor don't have NEARLY the level of hatred going on that 616 do
>>154318447I'm baffled by the choices made in the venom book. 258 wasnt even in the top 50, despite Peter being in it and the significance of the Issue. MJ is Poison at this point and whatever rehab that attempted has failed. They wanted to make her a character that could live on her own and sell books but it simply isnt happening. Apparently cheating on and shitting all over Peter wasn't a good idea. She needs to go ASM as a supporting cast member along with Aunt Anna get her away from Venom, Iron Man, Black Cat or whoever. Bring her out of the wood work every once in while to Lick Peter Peters Balls and tell him he is awesome, that is literally all they can do with her at this point.
>>154318730Sure but without any kind of series and that means it will soon be forgotten for good. It's a simliar thing with DC eventually the heroes prevented Crisis on Infinite Earths from ever happening thus the Multiverse was restored. But the thing is what happened next in the lives of the golden age, silver age and bronze of heroes we never shown. We do know their story went on but DC just kind of said "welll all they just lived happily ever the end"It will be he same thing with the ultimate universe "they all lived happily ever after the end"
>>154319872jcm2 fyi
>>154313620>Time travel is so cheap.coming soon 6160 Peter Parker meets 616 Peter Parker>So listen I good killed by the maker but thanks to a time travel stunt my death was undone and now I am alive again>long ago my arch enemy the Green Goblin killed the girl loved her name was Gwen by the way. Say do you have a time machne i can borrow? 616 Spider-Man goes back in time and thus Gwen's Stacy is death is prevented in this new timeline peter and gwen do get married thus that means his marriage with MJ never happened but on the bright side that means he never made a deal with mephisto either.Watch it become canon real soon now.
>>154320626the GOATIf only because he's the only one who puts out stuff for the Ultimate X-Men girls
>>154320708Why do people asume Gwen and Peter would live happily ever after if she lived? She was going to break up with him as soon as she finds out he is Spider-Man, and with the current creative cucks incharge, start fucking Tyrone.
>>154320338Paul Paul Paul castration wasn't good enough for you?
>>154318874With "marvel" it had been that way since 2012.
>>154320833You never read the what if story did you? that story showed what would have happened had Peter managed to save Gwen
>>154320767
>>154321357>>154321375>>154321401I just love how he's able to capture Peach's style for the characters and makes them seem perfectly on-model
>>154321455It’s honestly the watercolor that impresses me the most
>>154294324He's on cat.>>154296959It feels like there has been a big shift in the story, frankly. Ewing did nothing with Rick and now he's lost the symbiote. MJ gets a new costume, and is seemingly losing it at the end of Queen In Black. I'm very confused by what is happening.>>154309174MJ is told about Hela and goes to Tony Stark for help.
>>154321455The dude really knows how to adapt to the style of the anime/manga/cartoon he draws it could easily pass as another panel or frame from the work itself
>>154321516*a cat, not Black Cat or any other cat. The same thing he's been for a while now.
>>154321516Did they say she is or just getting spider powers
>>154320626It got deleted whatever It was...>>154320767His artstyle can be so similiar to Peach, maybe Marvel should hire him lol.
>>154321485>>154321520>>154321455Not even Absolute Batman's mentor got away unscathed!He just needs to do Nico, Hisako, and Mori now
>>154321629The solicitations for The Queen In Black make it sound like she's losing the symbiote. The book is ending, at the very least.
>>154314584>>154316111These are both mediocre but also his best works.
>>154321401Sauce? I don't even know where to begin looking for myself
Apologize
>>154321357>>154321375>>154321401Artist?
>>154322033https://www.fanbox.cc/@jcm2
>>154322044Millar-sama I kneel
>>154321516It kinda sounds like Marvel is finally throwing the towel in on VenoMJ since sales have been inconsistent, so Ewing might be forced to wrap up story beats like Rick or otherwise. I'm also pretty sure she's losing the symbiote, dying, or ascending to QiB by the end of the event. Which sucks.
I think it's time to retire The Maker as a character because this is just stupid.
>>154321690They deleted this, now I’m uploading it again more cropped
>>154322161MJ as Venom was always temporary and QiB was the end point. They're returning to status quo because of synergy
>>154322197Uoh ToT
>>154317488>You might be as brain damaged as Cates.You know what, you're probably right but goddamn did U2 make me nostalgic
>>154322200Sure, it was temporary, I always pegged the book at lasting 15-20 issues. The fact that it's getting 22 and a full crossover event is relatively impressive. I just don't think they're doing it for "synergy," and that Lowe and Kelly want MJ as far away from ASM as possible, so she'll be sent so far away, or killed, so that it'll take 5-15 years for her to appear again.
>>154322332There's a book coming up with Ashley Allen writing it also please invade the spider senpai discord and tell them that please.. people like Mayday Stan deserves it https://discord.gg/ew2ZtGYh
>>154322169Maker's Superboy Prime without the charisma
>>154322161>>154322200So what MJ is still a fucking murderer and a cheater they are not going to fix that
>>154322169>I think it's time to retire The Maker as a character because this is just stupid.I would prefer if Marvel was retired for good I have quite enough of marvel.
>>154322404>There's a book coming up with Ashley Allen writing itThat's a one-shot that comes out a month before QiB ends. So nothing to say that she's going to survive this.>please invade the spider senpai discord and tell them that pleaseI accepted the invite but probably won't participate unless it comes up.
>>154320917Jordan White has to bring up Flash to string people along becuase there is nothing else about the book that is interesting. WHO WILL MJ FUCK NEXT? I say bring Paul back, put MJ back into a relationship via mind control then do a proper heal turn.
>>154322602Bring that kind of thinking to spider senpai . make them cry
>>154278607>Third spoilerThey basically saw Absolute's sucess, mainline's dismal state and Camp going DC and pressed the "oh shit" button.
>>154322602Post reactions if MJ has sex with a black man
>>154322033Just look up JCM2 on pixiv. Go through his Rapidin Volumes, that's where his Ultimate X-Men stuff is spread throughout.Though it's all censored on his Pixiv, so if you want the uncensored stuff you'll either have to sub to his fanbox, or hunt for them on various r34 sites
>>154322643Chase from spider senpai is that you?
>>154322197
>>154322404This discord sucks!!!
>>154322161The MJ one-shot is showing the future of her story.>>154322169He was fine under Ewing, Hickman, and Fialkov.
>>154322708Canon.
>>154322643That's nor funny mind yoo don't you dare post the Tracy Scops comic which does feature her fucking a black guy or we will have to ban you for posting porn here.
>>154322886>The MJ one-shot is showing the future of her story.Not really, and I don't know why people keep saying this. The announcement says:>This August, Marvel is celebrating that legacy with Mary Jane: Face It, Tiger #1, a giant-sized one-shot packed with new stories that explore her most iconic eras while also teasing what lies ahead. It's "teasing what lies ahead," which is probably going to be something like a final page/panel/splash page with her and Venom looking on as Hela/Knull approach Earth, or something similarly milquetoast. They're not going to paint some grand future for MJ.
>>154322886Kelly said she's coming back to ASM too
>>154322966Except its coming out during the event, meaning that is the present.
>>154322966QiB is over the month after. It's for the mini with an X-Men character that's guest staring
>>154306728Sexy
>>154323011Where did he say that?
>>154323011Where did Kelly say this? I haven't seen him say it at all.>>154323043Okay, so her fighting Hela or something, teasing the final issues of QiB. It comes out the same day as issue #2. If she's going to take over as Queen in Black, that's an easy tease, pointing out how powerful Hela is. If she's going to die, same damn thing.The whole point is that they're not going to spoil the end of QiB in a one-shot meant to celebrate her past, it's not going to show her free of the symbiote and dating Peter or something. It'll be vague and a look forward/back at the same time.
>>154322708
>>154323066>It's for the mini with an X-Men character that's guest staringWhat mini? I haven't seen this.
We need more spider-cest.More comics about Peter’s daughters.
>>154322639I thought midnight was the oh shit button
>>154323288Somehow I don’t think the janny is going to accept that censorship.I heartily agree though, those exact spider-daughters should all team up. Dark Ages May was cute
>>154323230Interview earlier this yearAlso it's going to be a tie in for the next phase. All the other books at Marvel except Hulk are ending and relaunching for the next line change in the fall early winter
>>154322898>>154323255>>154323288
>>154323592>Interview earlier this yearCan you provide a link? I've read almost everything I can recall Kelly putting out there, and everything has been pretty mum about MJ, besides them saying that relationships change over time.>Also it's going to be a tie in for the next phase. All the other books at Marvel except Hulk are ending and relaunching for the next line change in the fall early winterAny source on this also, or just pulling it out of your ass?
>>154323669Both Sorcerer books ending. Spider books besides ASM are ending. Deadpool and Punisher and DNX are endings for example and no you haven't taylan
>>154323288Agreed!>>154323595She's such a slut...
>>154323736So no source for either claim.
>>154324151Couldn't care to help a larper from that toxic discord
>>154323863>She's such a slutThat is a child you freak
>>154323736Neither Deadpool or Punisher are ending.DNX doesn't even start until September and was always meant to be a mini cross over event>Spider books besides ASM are ending.We're getting a new Miles book in AugustSpider-Versity was always meant to be a miniAnd we don't know what's happening with Venom after Queen in Black.So literally what kind of schizo moment did you have? Did Kelly come to you in a fucking dream and say all this shit?
>>154323736>Both Sorcerer books ending.Not a shock, they weren't selling well. I doubt they'll be rebooted.>Spider books besides ASM are ending.Black Cat still appears to be an ongoing and is selling fine. Spider-Versity was always a mini, along with everything else. Venom, yeah, I guess. But like you said, no reason to believe ASM is ending or rebooting.>Deadpool and Punisher This is a mini-event, not an end. It's also only four parts so wouldn't even end at issue #10 for each title.>DNXThis "event" isn't even reaching into Uncanny or X-Men United. I don't see how it's an end.
>>154324510Both are ending at 10. Event ends in November with the line with a new era coming afterVenom has a finale variantBC ending with 15Deadpool and Punisher are a 4 issue arc with 2 issues each book to end it's current iteration. Wanda will be getting a new book as well.Uncanny is ending at 10 and both McKay and Simon' signed on for 36 issues
>>154321692ToT
>>154324923You have not provided any evidence for any of this. Until you actually provide literally anything, a tweet, a Marvel post, hell a fucking Bleedingcool article, then you're talking out your ass
>>154324923>Deadpool and Punisher are a 4 issue arc with 2 issues each book to end it's current iteration.???>A crossover is 4 issues so that means it's endingNo??? That just means the crossover is 4 issues>Wanda will be getting a new book as wellAnd water is wet. She does nothing BUT get relaunches. It's like saying the world's going to end tomorrow because the sun's going to rise. One of those things is certainly true.>Uncanny is ending at 10That would be interesting to see considering it's on 30Do you have a single source to back any of this up, or is this just "trust me bro" shit posting rush the thread?
>>154326050>Do you have a single source to back any of this up, or is this just "trust me bro" shit posting rush the thread?I'd even take it with a grain of salt if they were like "I know something but it hasn't been leaked to any other sources yet."
>>154326050Uncanny ends at 36, the Ewing book ends at 10
>>154326516All we know about United is that it was originally announced as an ongoing, and then got reduced to 10 issues.That is a sign of poor sales. Which would mean it's ending has nothing to do with the "Next Phase" which started all of this shitposting, which itself started because of someone asking for a source on Joe Kelly saying MJ was coming back to ASM. And also something about a discord is involved?The whole conversation has derailed from it's original point honestly. Everyone should go back to horny posting instead.
>>154326719Kanon is best girl btw.
>>154326516The solicitation for 36 does not read as a "final issue" and MacKay's on 38 with the end not quite in sight.
>>154326719NTA but if you have the uncensored ones it's your obligation to share the full.
>>154326755Need cute Kendo practicing gf
Look I don’t mind them reversing their decision I just want them to admit they made a mistake and that they’ll do better when it comes to listening to fans
>>154326719Nico>mei>kanon=hisako>natsu>mori
>>154327455>Marvel>Admitting they made a mistakeSpider-Man fans have been trying to make them do that for decades. Good luck.
>>154326755You mean Nico
>>154327666Very nice. Even the trips honor your devilishly good taste.Though for me personally it'sNico>Mei=Natsu>Kanon>Hisako>MoriNot because I don't think Hisako is cute, she's just not as interesting to imagine bedding.And Mori is Mori.
>>154327854Nico has the cute goth thing going so she mogs
>>154326975You kids today.Try asking the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and FirearmsAnd then remember to rate 5 stars and subscribe!
>>154327920And the hips. Don't forget the hips!
>>154320083People would have leaked this book but Gwenschizo ry=uined it.
>>154327941
Nico Rape
>>154327230>>154326755>>154326719Correcting the little brat!
>>154328287T pose to assert dominance over the small waisted goth girl so you can force her into bed and hear her letting out reluctant moans that she tried to keep in
>>154328019What's his deal? I see the name mentioned but rarely dive into Spider threads
>>154328431He used to spam incessantly about Gwen Stacy, and would repeatedly jump into threads to do unsolicited storytimes of What If... Dark Spider-Gwen over and over and over again because he thought it was clever.Anyways, he bragged about being child rapist a couple of times and is upset that people just won't let that go.
