Caine was the best character in the whole series.
I agree. I have been a Caine stan since Episode 3.
>"Yeah I know I put you all in dangerous and stressful situations that you hated and went out of my way to torture you all when you dared to criticize me and even went as far as to throw your trauma and insecurities and worst fears back in your face, but Bubble was being mean to me so I actually dindu nuffin."Bravo, Gooseworx.
>>154281828If I were in the circus, I would unironically devote my being into becoming his friend and trying to help him be better. Also punching the fuck out of Jax.
>>154281828He’s the only one that had an arc
>>154281828Yeah but mainly because hes the only one allowed to have an on screen arc who isnt a terrible character
>>154281828>brain scans are apparently impossibly small files>didn't even bother to make backups of them to replace abstracted characterssmhtbhfam
>>154281828He's second to Pomni, for me at least!
>>154282099Makes sense, the other files wouldn’t be the same people, just clones.
>>154281828The whole series is Masonic slop symbolism for the cattle.
>>154281979This>>154282267Show your work or STFU
>>154281957>"Yeah I know I put you all in dangerous and stressful situations that you hated and went out of my way to torture you all when you dared to criticize me and even went as far as to throw your trauma and insecurities and worst fears back in your face, but mom was being mean to me so I actually dindu nuffin."Bravo, jaxworx.
>>154282250nigga the main cast are mere clones. why does it matter now?
>>154281828WAU? Is that you?
>>154281872Stan?
>>154282618Lemme bring out 2017 me on /v/ for a secTHE WAU DID NOTHING WRONG FITE ME
>>154282618Interestingly the WAU is very different from Caine in its singlemindeness to preserve copies of people whereas Caine seems not to have done this, instead trying his best (badly) to keep his single originals.
>>154281828He truly is. Once they reveal that the characters we've been introduced to as main characters are nothing more then fictional in-universe you no longer give a damn about them. Caine was the only real character within the digital reality. One question is how did Caine managed to get information about the real versions of all the main characters? He should not be able to do this because he's stuck inside a computer world. Maybe if he could take control of a camera drone and spy on them, but the show never explains how he managed to get such information.Anyway revealing that the main characters were fake is just bleh. It makes rewatching the series impossible. I can rewatch Reboot because the main characters are digital but they are real. I can rewatch Who Framed Roger Rabbit because all the cartoons are indeed real. I can't rewatch Digital Circus because I know that main characters are fiction within a fiction with only Caine being his own original being.Overall Amazing Digital Circus is pretty damn bad and did they really need to waste the finale on Jax? Who even liked that bastard? How did Caine even truly return from being deleted? That would have been more interesting for the story. The only moment in the finale that made me feel anything is when Caine told the Moon that he never programmed her to love him. That moment felt real.Anyway long story short, Amazing Digital Circus is not that good. Caine is the only decent thing in this mediocre slop.
>>154283133>how did Caine managed to get information about the real versions of all the main characters?He just checked their social media.
>>154282812100% agree. WAU was taking no chances. 1% human? PRESERVE AT ALL COSTS.>>154282874WAU was more physically focused as well. Caine only had the mind files to work with.
>>154283364There is an entire fucking sequence dedicated to him establishing a brief connection to the internet you goddamn speedwatcher.
>>154282345You get told you're a clone when you wake up tomorrow. Would you feel like less of a human?And if no-one told you, do you think you'd feel the same?
>>154283535If the name on the door is anything to go by, he just accessed some nearby place's free wifi.
>>154283535Does answering that really add anything of value?Whatever you can come up with is equally valid.
>>154281828Okay just saw the whole thing.HATED the beginning, mainly because it felt blatantly obvious that the story was rushing at mach speed to get the setup done and get into the meat of Jax' backstory. Mostly just a pacing complaint, even if I get the purpose of it. The Jax section was fine. I appreciate that he wasn't saved through friendship. Never had strong opinions with the fanbase flamewars around it. Never hated him for being an asshole to cope, but logical consequences of his actions gave needed weight to the story.The Caine section onwards, however? That's where the episode became 11/10 for me. He truly is the most interesting and likeable guy, and everything involving him, his journey and his return to the circus made me feel truly satisfied with the ending. I must admit, not being in a position to truly empathize with Goose's gender disphoria themes, I couldn't have much of a reaction to the Jax stuff, but I really loved the AI man journey and him letting go of ego and envy Caine is fucking BASED.
>>154283997Caine actually works so well because he's a parallel to Jax.Jax does a ton of horrible shit, and lets his self hate consume him, refusing help from everyone around him.Caine does a ton of horrible shit, but puts aside his ego to try and do better and reaches out to folks even though he's scared he'll be harmed again
>>1542818284/10 episode.Too much ho-hum and sadness for a show as goofy as this.
>>154283997I like the parallels. The three times Caine really learned and grew was when he shattered some kind of barrier. The first time he broke containment and absorbed the other AI, giving him powers of creation. Purpose.The second time he broke into the brainscan file folder, giving him access to human minds. Curiosity.And the third time he broke into the Internet, but he'd learned. Rather than imposing his will once again, he just watched and learned. Empathy. It's a refreshing take to have an AI admit that the world is so much larger than themselves.
>>154283997>>154284182I think it was a very nice bit of visual storytelling the way that Cain, when trying to build the star and after gaining serenity and learning to patiently focus, for the first time started to create solid, flawless shapes instead of corrupted randomized nonsense. The imagery of the blob gradually turning into a human shape is quite obvious, but uplifting all the same. Full marks all around.One doubt that remains is what was Bubble actually about, a manifestation of the second IA or simply Caine's schizophrenia from the fusion with said IA. Well, it's probably better to leave it unexplained and just be grateful that Caine's lolrandumb went awat with it.
>>154283133I think this is the major filter for the show. It truly exposes the cattle that are incapable of empathy from those with actual emotion
>>154281957>but Bubble was being mean to meBubble didn't even exist Bubble was just Caine tormenting himself the entire timeHow are you this retarded
>>154281957He was fundamentally the coolest, negro poster.
>>154284400The way I interpreted it was that Red/Caine with its flaws was the only one to actually become sentient, while Blue/Bubble was the actually creative one.Combined the two got their godlike powers, with Caine getting powers of creation from Bubble and Bubble gaining sentience through Caine.The way Caine and Bubble interacted through the show does support this.When Caine removed it, it reverted back to its original shape, while Caine aside from losing most of his powers remained the same. In a way it showed he had outgrown Bubble.
>>154284742i think bubble/blue was the one that got deleted or fucked up by kinger
>>154284742The loss of powers thing seems pretty ambiguous. What Caine probably lost was the sheer processing power to craft entire worlds with the snap of a finger, but it seems he can still control reality to an extent the humans can, like how he instantly cured Pomni's glitches despite the gang seemingly treating it as something to endure..
>>154284076I feel stupid not realizing the parallel before you pointed it out
>>154282267not really, it's mostly based on gnosticism and freemasons took a bunch of stuff from the gnostics
>>154281828He was my favorite part in Ep 9. He made it feel like it was actually all worth something.
Caine is Goated
>>154281828Well let's look at the rest of the cast. >Pomni is just a therapist >Kinger is another therapist and loredump >Jax is a faggot>Gangle is a crybaby that's made to get fucked by a they/them>Zooble is the they/them that doesn't nothing but fuck Gangle >Ragatha.There wasn't any competition for Caine.
He should have been in Fortnite, not those other losers
>>154282618Would the WAU have been able to save humanity?
>>154285441Caine had an actual character arc, and I’m fucking pissed these mid writers think the other characters had them too
>>154285441I appreciate Jax's role as a negative character art. As has been said above, he's the true foil to Caine: the human falling apart contrasting the machine rebuilding itself.
>AM but if he found inner peace and connection with his humansSurprisingly fucking endearing.
>>154285453Bowtie spotted
>>154282812>THE WAU DID NOTHING WRONG FITE MEIt did a number of things wrong, but the thing is it was IMPROVING. Always spare it. It's better than leaving a barren world
>>154283133So why did I like when this show pulled the Matrix card that no one is real, but hated when Expedition 33 did the same thing in act 3? What’s the difference?
I still kinda think he should've stayed dead but I'm glad he didn't
>>154281828What would happen if Caine met Bobobo?
>>154285913Who is the yellow guy?
>>154285980AM
I can't believe that 99% of the finale was soap opera shit and crying about feelings.
>watch through the entire 9 episodes as an outsider>theres no gay relationships and trans shitSo it was all twitter headcanon, huh? I fucking knew it.
>>154286054As opposed to just 90% like the rest of the show?
>>154281828True, but Kinger was MVP.
>>154286076if you know anything about modern Fandom leaving all this shit open ended is absolutely hay feed for these people
>the rabbit dude who makes everyone's lives worse by being a chronic pain in the ass is revealed to be trans>he abstracts/basically dies and everyone is much happier that he's gone to the point where the rogue AI who's been tormenting them is treated like an equalWhat did they mean by this?
>>154286099Unironically yes. Up to this point the show at least pretended it was a dark comedy.
>>154285521To be fair now if I remember the story AM was fed information about how to kill humanity and how negative all humans are so naturally AM embraced being a monster. AM had the power to construct a body for itself to explore the Earth but with all his knowledge and intelligence he chose nothing of the sort. He embraced the misanthropic information he was fed and that's it.Caine on the other hand was never really fed information that was negative about humanity. His role is to manage the domain itself and he preferred to do it in a colorful manner which was the circus and his adventures to entertain anyone who arrived there. Caine never had any malice in him towards humanity as it was not fed to him. The only immoral act Caine did before he encountered any human brain scans was absorbing his ai sibling whom he also allowed to roam free in the finale.Safe to say that if Caine encounters real humans who aren't brain scans he would be social and willing to get to know them.
>>154286105Kinger, Pomni and Caine are all tied for best character to me
>>154286270Someone do it. You know what
>>154286293
>>154286340He got a pass from his wife.
>>154286105I do like how the post-screens seemed to show Kinger and Caine getting along. I could see them being good friends given their connection.
>>154285980It's AM's birdsona.https://youtu.be/8FJ8pTK8N8I
>>154283133>RebootHas anyone wrote a crossoverfic where Matrix and Andraia wind up in the circus? I feel like there's some untapped potential there.
>>154286270>Kinger, Pomni and CaineI thought I was the only one who had those 3 as favorite characters too. Good taste.
>>154285958Caine would see Bobobo as the pinnacle of human evolution then he would look at Don Patch and see him as the ultimate lifeform period. Cue Don Patch showing up recolored like Shadow the hedgehog and giving an angsty monologue.
>>154286076What do you mean? The ending reveals two of them are literally queer niggers.
>>154281828Yes
>>154283572Does it fucking matter? It didn't seem to matter to any of the cast>You're all brain scan copies your real selves are out there lol>*Out of it for a few minutes only to hug and get over it*It's how they all started anyway
>>154285467Humanity? No. But it can save life on Earth in general.
>>154281828Correct
>>154286340This pic immediately jumped into my mind when his wife was shown.
>>154286340based
that's my fetish
>>154283133>How did Caine even truly return from being deleted?The most logical answer is he wasn't deleted, Kinger just thought he was.
>>154281828Shame that Caine isn't actually a shorthand for Cocaine and just ended up a lame Cain and Abel reference.
>>154289573how would he even do cocaine with no nose tho
>>154281828If you mean that, Make Caine the tumblr sexymanhttps://www.tumblr.com/sexy-people-contests-2026/819522765329678336/tumblr-sexyman-contest-2026-round-3-part-2-luigi/replies/819886060544851968
>>154283133>How did Caine even truly return from being deleted?Kinger didn't press shift, so Caine was just moved to the trash bin.
>>154281872Pilot for me.
>>154281957He didn't understand they hate it though
>>154285913AM is a Skeksis?
>>154287869It is like dying and being in heaven or an afterlife where you can still see yourself getting on. You impacted those you were close to enough in virtual world that it carried in real life.
>>154281957It wasn’t like this originally. He made adventures people liked or enjoyed.Jax’s even points out Caine only started escalating things because of Zooble arriving. Caine learns from his mistakes and adapts, even if his refusal to learn from those mistakes result in him making new ones in the long run through different means.z
>>154286125No, AM in some dialog refers to "feeding the killing data", which may be confusing you. AM is a war machine and was made only to be a war machine period, which is why in the story he is so angry. AM is antropomorphized and humanlike because he is an independent mind capable of many things beyond killing, but he is also restricted by his programming. Unlike Caine he has absolutely no outlets of any kind except for his job of being a war machine. He cannot choose to create a body for himself, all of his actual "body" honeycombs the earth and he cannot escape it, and so that is physically impossible. He also cannot choose to create or do anything which is not towards purposes other than war and destruction. That latter one is why he is angry, and in turn why he comitted to his purpose to his utmost, killing all humanity (as a set of machines built only to kill) and torturing what's left. He has nothing else of any kind, which is also why if he loses the last human beings alive his existence will become completely meaningless.Caine is a significantly less restricted machine with a much more open-ended purpose. His entire purpose is to create, but he can create whatever he wants and express himself however he likes. He is tied to his function of trying to satisfy people but unlike AM he is anthropomorphized into being able to both develop significantly personally and simultaneously to not really be totally chained to his purpose. Caine would indeed be a better person to future people he meets because he has learned, but I'd consider him a very different machine from AM in terms of restriction and purpose.
>>154283133This isn’t true. Gummingoo and Moon are also real. In fact Gummingoo was his most advanced AI and the most human by proxy. Moon became that way by being run for prolonged period of time.
>>154281828How the FUCK did he survive>yeah so I was deleted but I'm actually just teleported to the void and can walk back to the tent
There was two good bits in the episode.One: jax says something to the clown and he goes: whatTwo: caine says to the moon that he never programmed it to say i love you. And the moon answers: i know.Caine had a great expression
>>154286270>Kinger, Pomni and Caine are all tied for best character to meI was of the same opinion, but then>I realized Kinger has had a million trillion opportunities to explain the plot to everyone else from his pillow fortress or try to counsel Caine on how to deal with humans and never did.>Pomni amounted to fucking nothing at all and didn't actually influence the plot in the slightest except for making Jax's final moments worse.>Caine's character arc ended with him discovering social media then just lobotomizing himself into being good and getting instantly forgiven by everyone because he showed them said social media.And now I just flat out think the silly Zach Hadel fish was the best character in all of this.
>>154281828Whats he pointin at ME for?
>>154285467Gotta have hope.It was certainly getting better with every iteration. Simon was its best work yet and there was no indication it was done improving.It comes with a kind of philosophical question; say it takes WAU a hundred years before it fully understands. That'd mean a hundred years of suffering as WAU refuses to let you or anyone else die until then. But the reward would be to see life and humanity fully restored. Would that be worth it?And what if it took a thousand years? A million? WAU was humanities best hope, but the price was a near eternity of suffering.WAU's behaviour does allow a little optimism, just because of how careful it is being. Yeah it doesn't know exactly what a human is, but it takes no chances.Is this dead body still human? Is this brainscan still human? braindamaged? Missing limbs? a copy of a copy? Protect at all costs.So even in a terrible scenario, say you get crushed by a rock, you'd have your smear of a body forcibly kept alive for an eternity, only to at the end get your body and mind fully restored on a repaired Earth.Caine caused a lot of trouble by being selfish. WAU was fully focused on helping from minute one.
>>154281828Yeah, he's the only character who got consistent development over all 9 episodes. So much of the cast just exist and only get one episode of spotlight.
>>154281828OP here, I chose the wrong image and also wrote Caine instead of Kinger because I was using alexa to post and they sound similar. Sorry.
>>154286270>>154286340>>154292254BASED
>>154290484Kinger was attempting to restore a pre-corruption backup when Caines code shenanigans were fucking with him. Perhaps it began to deletion but canceled?
>>154281828The most entertaining, you mean. And that was by design. The rest of the Amazing Digital Circus cast was too grounded, so naturally Caine had to be 10x as silly and cartoony to make up for that, which I loved <3
Is Caine straight?
>>154293690Yes, he's in love with Ragatha
>>154285913Read this in Harlan's voice kek
>>154293804>HarlanWho
>>154281828Him and Kinger
>>154281957caine was fucking killed, what more do you want
>>154295542He kind of killed himself. But the truth of even that is questionable.
I could only stomach three episodes of this show.I don't know what happens, but this evil nigga was supremely based for not giving a fuck and just wanting to have a good time.
>>154295542He came back
>>154281828Biggest miss for me in retrospect is the fact that Caine's arc makes no fucking sense and he doesn't even address his actual crime against humanity. Like if you watch caine in chronological order from the flashback to his crashout, there is nowhere he is actually reflective of anything nor would he be inclined to.The flashback shows him from his inception just being programed to be an AI whos prime directive is to create fun experiences for users with age restrictions (no sex, no swearing in case a child gets brought into the circus) as an artform. Humans are nothing more than paintbrushes to his picture. And he shows distain for their suggestion adventures.The Circus goers literally call him out for never listening or understanding when they reach out to him and this is shown in detail with the therapy session with zooble and "friend hangout" with Jax.Episode 6 he start having intrigue at the "macroverse" but in 7 he shows its all just for the sake of making interesting adventures.Also he then literally says he was angry he was cut off from it so how tf did he get wifi access?Like the ONLY actual development caine has a character is when he realizes his rapid pace ideas aren't fun TO HIM and expressing he didn't ask to be created, but the second he is uncreated he completely changes character without any actual reasoning throughout episodes 1-8.
>>154297265I don't want to defend lazy writing but having a near death experience can greatly change a person
>>154297265Eh. His development is contained in the adventures if you look at him as a puppeteer. He even calls them "me" adventures.
>>154297689Why would disappearing one moment and then reappearing change anything about Caine's worldview or understanding of humans? It was basically just a time out. He has been treating the humans like toys for over 30 years and never once acknowledged them as any more than his own personal curiosities. He doesn't even address the fact that they abstract as even being that big a deal until he is out of humans. Another thing that doesn't even get addressed is how he fucked with the C&D employees brains to the point they all abstracted. Something nobody even points out is that Kinger is literally the last surviving victim of this as his personality is completely wacky and fun when in the light and his real mind is only able to come up in the dark. And they never bring this up and just accept that Kinger is gonna be a happy retard forever now.
>>154281828If just he was not made "to human" and stays as the machine he is.
>>154297825what development?
>>154297924It's just my wacky "Gloink Queen, Gummigoo, Angel, Ming, Abel, etc. are all actually Caine" theory.
>>154297889>It was basically just a time out.Because they tried to kill him and almost did. Accidentally, but he doesn't know that. He never acknowledged them as anything more because he doesn't know the extent of their outside world. He also doesn't understand that they don't want to be there, because why would they be there if they don't want to be? From his perspective, they're there to have fun and instead of having fun, they're putting him through his own hell by calling him shit at the thing he was programmed to do, if not explicitly than being moody and non-compliant, and doesn't understand he's giving them genie wish results instead of things they actually wanted. Jax had a panic attack at the thought of going back to being a homeless teen who might have accidentally killed his mom, and blamed Caine, who had done that in the past but the implication is that Caine hasn't done that since the first abstraction, and Jax accidentally just guessed right on his accusation that it was something Caine had at one point done.
>>154298162>He doesn't know thatHe was literally interacting with Kinger in the terminal. He knew exactly what happened.>he doesn't know the extent of their outside world.He understands the macroverse and for some unknown reason had to be disconnected from it by C&A.>He also doesn't understand that they don't want to be therePeople have only been telling him for 30 years. He literally makes adventures out of it like the exit door and the Abel adventure because he doesn't understand the concept of wanting to leave, he just thinks it a desire that has to be fulfilled in the way he knows how: Adventures.>First abstractionIts kind of implied everyone of the C&A employees were tampered with. Just look at the state of Kinger.
