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OUR HEROES
Jax is just a terrible parody of Komaeda from Dangan Ronpa.
https://x.com/i/status/2068146904618148240
Why did Jax fumble Ribbit so hard
RIBBUN FOREVER
The sex update is canon, by the way
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>>154286047OC Anchorwhiteboardhttps://r7.whiteboardfox.com/76884271-6634-6134+/co/llectionhttps://co.llection.pics/post/list/the_amazing_digital_circus/1+NSFW thread>>>/trash/83360410
>>154286047>Jax was trans this whole timeHoped it wouldn’t go that way but unsurprising.
TADC > Sonichu > The Matrix
>>154286071The writing between them was so hard to believe, it felt really stilted and unnatural
>>154285845For Collage Anon, Ronko wants in. (Ignore cloud lady)
>>154286092You don't have to tell me twice! But in the stone age...
>>154286087
Ending felt rushed and left too many things either unresolved or hurriedly smoothed over in one or two lines of dialogue.
>>154286080And therefore avatar modification
>>154286089that literally wasn't in the episode
https://gooseworx.fandom.com/wiki/Peercranethe fuck
I really wonder what the creator of this has to say about the finale episode. Was it what he predicted? It sounded like he knew for certain what would happen and deliberately didn't talk about his prediction, because it would have been equal to a spoiler.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85sl_fbjGHg
>Conjuring is a thing>Basically can pull whatever and make whatever they want>Caine is just somehow back as well on their side again after the actual torture hell from 8>Caine was able to literally remake exact copies of them in episode 5>He can also just put memories and shit into peoples minds from episode 6What... is stopping him from literally bringing back any of the characters that abstracted then implanting them with memories?
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>>154286060In the sense that the director needs to have the entire media revolve around one specific character?
>>154286047Alright Gooseworx was able to stick the landing a bit... so how will Toby Fox do when he finally finishes Deltarune?
unless you're really hot or have money for crazy surgery you really should transition after 17 at the latest.Stuffing your gorilla body into a dress is only actually going to hurt other trans people through your bad optics
Man, Reddit is hilarious right now. Die-hard "Jax is trans" trannies and Trans Jax truthers going at each other throats.
>>154286094That applies to all of the dialogue in this show.>>154286063They turn into a tree?
The generational fumble
>>154286133>playing Wonderwall on a bassEugh.
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>>154286047This doesn't accurately represent Jax
>IS THAT A FULL GROUP OF PEOPLE WHERE EVERYONE IS NICE AND NEVER MAKES FUN OF EACH OTHER BECAUSE THEY KNOW THAT THIS WOULD CAUSE DEATH? AAAAAAAA I'M GOING INSANE I NEED TO BE AN ASSHOLE AND PRETEND THEY ARE ALL OUT TO GET ME
>>154286047>these threads are just going to be people spamming trans jax from now ongrim
>>154286047Is she AGP or HSTS?
That Stevie Wonder song is going to become a tranny anthem and I'm not ready to deal with that
>>154286121because they wouldn't be the actual people they lost, they would be imitations. it'd be like cloning your dead girlfriend. you're not getting your actual gf back, just a copy of her
>>154286147
Anon goes into the circus but instead of trooning, he just rapes
WHAT JAX DESERVED
>>154286165Jax...
>pomni was literally about to save jax>random grenade>zooble forces her to stopwhat shit writing
>>154286141pedophile detected
i think gooseworx genuinely fucked off because she hasn't said anything ever since the finale dropped
>>154286110How is she so impossibly hot?
>>154286071His biggest fear is someone knowing who he really is.Once he realized that Ribbit knew, he had to push her away.
>/tadc/ used dog jax for bantz>the wider internet celebrates trans jax instead of dogposting>the transposting makes them even more mad than the dogpostingInteresting
I can't wait for r/TheDigitalCircus to start banning people for refusing to address Jax as she.
Did that discord ever get made?Starting my Tapas comic when I get home
>>154286163They are already fucking imitation anyway! They are all data from brainscans of a headset! It don't change a fucking thing
>>154286164
>>154286170Anon rapes him too
>>15428615690% of troons are AGP freaksJax is no exception.
>>154286080Just saw the finale and lol'd the whole time.Jax is a massive faggot who got what he deserved. Anyway Zooble and Gangle sex. That is all.
>>154286167hawt
>>154286138Poorly, Suselle a shit
what should i think about the ending?
>>154286138fox is such a overrated hack. when he fumbles i genuinely hope someone kills him
>>154286047>avatars were coded to match the subconscious personalities and feelings of each person>Jax's avatar isn't female (even though that would have been a more interesting angle for the character - To insist he's male, while having a cute girly avatar, and having all kinds of beef with Caine over it, even worse than Zooble)>Jax's real life counterpart is not trans, but is clearly a fag>retard's assume that bow = tranny>Goose will not doubt fuck up trying to explain why his self (loathing) insert punching bag doesn't actually conform to any of the rules of the show he wroteWhole fucking show is one big missed opportunity, isn't it?
>>154286165I'm being completely serious when I say that Jax is one of the most 4chan-anon coded characters I have ever seen in anything
>>154286047latinx
>>154286183
>>154286118In the end Jax had the same fate as Ted but his death was very meaningless, he didn't helped "save" the other characters by killing himself Caine didn't even gained empathy thanks to Jax
>>154286192i thought it was pretty good but my IQ is three digits, maybe if yours is 2 digits you should hate it
>>154286175>rape
>>154286174>she
>watch the spanish dub>every character's voice actors namedrop themselves as the credits rollFug, that did actually move me a lil bit, sucks that Jax had a recast forced on him before episode 8, his first VA would've killed it in this episode
I still dont understand why Caine cant just create a copy of one of the characters just before they abstract. Even if that wouldnt make the ne character numerically identical with the old one, it would make them functionally identical and what would be the issue there? They now live in a sort of paradise.
>>154286175Handcrafted to be straight guy catnip, enhanced proportions or not.
>>154286181it does because their actual loved ones would still be dead. this isn't a hard concept to grasp if you made it past highschool, anon
>>154286141>(wokely) ze ugly vill be culled
entering the circus part 1
>>154286207>has
>>154286205>three digitsYou're not supposed to count the stuff after the decimal
>>154286207Rent free
It's my headcanon that whenever the circus starts getting color again that's when Caine reawakened.It's also my headcanon that he somehow woke himself up out of the recycling bin, chalk that up to him being an advanced AI I guess. Makes me wonder how things would've went if Kinger was actually successful in simply putting Caine to sleep when that's essentially what happened anyway.
Jax is a mentally ill faggot and no one has any obligiation to tolerate his shitty behavior because "he might be hurting inside abloo bloo bloo". Fuck off. He's an asshole, simple as. Ruined the show by centering it on him so much.
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>>154286138>Love finds it way to the girlIs an allegory about Kris finally coming out a trans female
>>154286214Anon, they're already fucking data and know it now, it doesn't change a fucking thing cause it just copied that same shit and pasted it.>Hurr durr you didn't make it past highschoolYou sure you didn't? They are all data, so it just becomes the same shit.
entering the circus part 2
>>154286197putting a bow on him, causing him to blush, on top of whatever he told his mom, on top of his earlier reaction to the maid outfit and it being part of his identity, yeah what other way is there to take it?
>>154286221>Bring it up first>"rent free"lol
Jax trans discourse is going to be the legacy of this show and the VAs are helping that happen
>>154286221Dilate plz
>>154286200>turned themselves into a tree, funniest shit I've ever seen
>>154286197>jax tells pomni that hes been hiding something>hes decided he is going to abstract, he cant live like this anymore>removes his overalls>hes actually a female avatar>they have lesbian sex and jax is saved
Jax is now going to be reduced to nothing more than "trans" by the fandom. Hope it was worth it, Gooseworx.
>>154286198You mean /co/-coded. Any other board wouldn't have been trans.
The real Digital Circus was the friends we made along the way and Jax fumbling the baddies so hard that he was lobotomized into a dog.
If Jax is trans why does the slideshow where he supposedly found happiness in life still call him "he"?
>>154286234If the original file exists then it would reset them to being as they were when they first entered the Circus.But since Caine never tried doing this I think it's likely that there is only one file that is constantly being overwritten as the brain simulation runs, and abstraction is irrevocable file corruption.
>>154286244Expecting the theyfab to be normal lmao
shilling backpropagation https://files.catbox.moe/bg6wiy.pdf
>>154286244Are you saying Hufford is a resource on what is or isn’t canon
>>154286254>Any other board wouldn't have been trans.LOL
>>154286227This. Every troon needs to learn from this.
>>154286256Because he's not trans, trannies are just projecting their fetish onto the character they most want to fuck.
>>154286218AhahahhaaIm working on Limpy entering the circus now. Going to have polly and fish guy there already
>>154286253>Hope it was worth it, GooseworxIt's not Goose's fault people decided to run with it.
>>154286239Nothing he said implied trannydom. Ribbit putting the bow on him made zero sense. If he was supposed to be trans, they had every chance to start using different pronouns, or show his real life counterpart had transitioned, or literally anything other than what was actually put into the finale. Which is that Jax is hyper insecure and he thinks sharing literally anything about himself will be used against him by other people, which causes him to push them away and hurt them. Like he did with his mom, and which he could have avoided if he just stayed to check on her and actually find out why she laughed or whatever.
>>154286167What would getting fully vored (digetsed and absorbed) by another member of the circus feel like?
>>154286244June Egbert.....2!
>>154286263No, but I am saying that fans will use the word of anyone on the crew to defend what they believe in.
>>154286256I’m confused
>>154286138Toby Fox funded BLM terrorists from a foreign country.Deport immediately.
hugging jax until he de-abstracts!
>>154286267It's funny because it's true!
>>154286227 I don't think the show is saying otherwise
>>154286279>Ribbit putting the bow on him made zero senseWhy? She liked him and he's into girly things.
>>154286288Pomni...
I will always love you, Ragatha.
Hey look it's another series conclusion derailed by gender politics
Femboy Mailman or Tranny Dog. Which way, Western Man?
Need Ragatha gf......
>>154286227Goose certainly made it clear that self-hating trannies who refuse to troon out deserve to kill themselves because they're harmful to all the other queers.
>>154286298lose weight
>>154286283Oh, gotcha.
>>154286063I loved this one, I just read it on twitter
>>154286227Jax suffers in the end and gets what's coming to him though. The other characters hold complicated feelings towards it all.
>>154286299Another?
There's Jax's everywhere and 99.9% of them are unfuckable weirdo dweeby losers with absolutely zero charisma. No woman would ever care about them enough to allow feeling sharing. But if you're just lucky to be born a charismatic guy, you can get away with it and have hordes of women desperate to be in the same place as Ribbit. It's so cruel it's almost sickening.
I still don't get why we are even supposed to be sad about Jax dog roping. I thought maybe it was going to subvert things in the mindspace but it just made him look even worse yet the showed played it like the saddest shit possible imaginable was happening and made a big deal of showing real Jax as happy.I guess it worked since half the audience is saying that they cried but to me it just read as a horrible person dying but with sad music and inexplicable reactions from the rest of the cast. It just felt manipulative.>>154286138Most of the Undertale endings were pretty decent. The yuri plot is going to continue being an annoying time waster between two characters with negative chemistry but I'll bet the actual ending with be serviceable.
>>154286298You look like a degenerate, ugly loser.
>>154286298Get this favela monkey away from my wife!
>>154286257Caine has already made copies of them though, episode 5 shows that when he pasted their evil copies and just hit the 'change personality' button on them. Caine should clearly be able to do any of this anyway, along with the others and kingers help as well. They can make whatever they need, dive into broken data as seen by pomni with JaxAbstract, anything is possible with this and even more since Caine is the best with it as it just all comes to him naturally.
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>>154286299Just like Umineko
>>154286244Why are they so hellbent on killing any popular franchise nowadays? You can't have shit anymore. If it starts out strong it ALWAYS devolves into this nonsense
Everyone can love Ragatha
>>154286323Ah.
>>154286323That's not gender politics, retard
>>154286296He never said that, though. It can read more obviously as Jax shared some anxieties and then mistook Ribbit's action as making fun of him or seeing him as a silly idiot for overreacting. So he did what he did in his backstory, and pushed her away.
episode 9 was such a let down and completely boringwas not worth being put in theatres. Who the fuck thought that this was a good idea? All of the hype for this last episode, and it was tranny jax, caine returning with no explanation, and ooey gooey feel good shit.what a fucking terrible ending to a show that had potential, now it's just fucking nothing. I already knew what the ending was going to be, that it would be a SOMA situation. There was no suspense, no build up. It was just an episode and nothing special. I'd be pissed off if I paid money for this shit. I'm glad that tranny Jax acked himself
>>154286323Stupid artists need to get with the program or get shot.
>>154286298Why the fuck would you post this?
>>154286244I dont understand how people can miss the pretty obvious hints that Jax is trans. I actually thought the show was pretty heave handed with what it was trying to keep as hints.
>>154286298LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I need to get the fuck outtaa these threads man
>>154286308Except for this.That is 100% canon.
WTF was the deal with the bee on the poster? Was that made up entirely?
>>154286333>sexual orientation isn't gender politicswho's the real retard?
>>154286333It's faggot politics, pretty much the same thing
>>154286316Wait, are you upset because you're one of the uncharismatic losers or because the losers exist at all?
>>154286298>Average Ragafaga
>>154286348It isn't. Tranny shit and gay shit are not the same thing. Troons just clung onto gay shit because that was the only way they could get ahead.
>>154286337Just to say goodbye to everyone.
>>154286298Based.
>>154286244The thing is, is that it doesnt commit. Human Jax clearly hasn't started to transition so the reveal doesn't make much sense.
>>154286316>There's Jax's everywhere and 99.9% of them are unfuckable weirdo dweeby losers with absolutely zero charisma.Jax's whole thing is his charisma, anon. He doesn't want anybody to know his deepest darkest secrets so he constructs this whole persona as this completely aloof Bugs Bunny wannabe who's above actually confiding with others.
>>154286358Read a book.
>>154286298I sincerely hope you don't wear that shirt out in public, man
>>154280038H-hot...>>154286342WHAT THE FUCK DID NEVERMANSPLAINY DO TO MY DOLL SHE LOOKS HIDEOUS
>>154286353Both I guess.
>>154286133In the sense that he’s an antagonistic piece of shit stuck in a virtual world, and there’s nothing you can do to save him because he doesn’t want to be saved. And not everything revolves around Komaeda, but I can’t say the same thing for Jax.
I fully believe that Goose intended for Jax to be trans, but surely she knew that keeping it just vague enough would fuel discourse for the rest of time, right?
>>154286334>He never said that, thoughIt's in the subtext. He likes that maid outfit.But I also don't think he's trans. It's funny how people are interpreting the scene where Jax literally fucking dies as him being reborn as a girl.
>>154286335Unfortunately, I have to say that Glitch knew their audience. They're used to eating slop and being grateful for it. The fact that is focused almost entirely on AO3-tier therapyspeak, crying, and the faggiest character airing his tragic backstory just guaranteed that people would sing its praises unconditionally.
>>154286317I think Goose wanted the audience to decide if they feel bad for Jax or not since some of the characters also have complicated feelings about it with Zooble pretty much telling Gangle she's not a bad person if she doesn't really feel bad for Jax. The Isn't She Lovely scene felt like pure manipulative cringe though. Team Glad Jax Died if that matters.
https://x.com/codaanim/status/2068110943314178484KEK
>>154286361whatever nonsense you're romanticizing in your head isn't worth it, there's only one of you, forever. everyone deserves a better ending than whatever demon is haunting you
>>154286263I mean even if it isn't the case now Goose will never be able to speak against it because people will say she is throwing Amanda under the bus for transphobes or some shit like that, she could say something like >He isn't trans but I wanted to make a plot trans people could relate toAnd people would still take offence
>>154286361You look and act like a stunted manchild. All you've done is embarrassed yourself here.
>>154286298>This is the man defending and gooning to Dollface every day for the past 3 YEARS
>>154286167>>154286280Please don't post vore or I'll jerk off to it
>>154286060And Ted from IHNMAIMS
jax's backstory and conversation with ribbit still has me feeling some type of way even after seeing it twice in theatersit's not too late, is it? we're the same age, after all
>>154286335>I already knew what the ending was going to be, that it would be a SOMA situation.good thing this was presented with little fanfare at the start of the episode and the actual plot was about finding meaning in the meaningless
>>154286298Extremely based
>>154286208lo cambiaron? le aplicaron un alfonso obregon tambien?
>>154286372Honestly, same. I'm too scared to kill myself but it really is the best course of action
>>154286389Eh, I could've been worse.
>>154286334He blushed from it and was clearly into it. What does the inner Jax wearing the maid outfit mean otherwise?
>>154286368he's righttranny shit is a cult, it would be like if the ending was that jax got saved by scientology
Redemption arcs for characters only work if the character demonstrates some kind of underlying good character traits. Jax does not. Instead we are only given a tragic backstory and we must root for his redemption out of pity alone. People are in shitty situations all the time and they do not let those shitty situations turn themselves shitty too. Jax is weak faggot who lashes out at others for his own shortcomings. That's not a character I want to see doted on so much.
>>154286375>she
Think we'll be able to find any hidden Ribbit ghosts in the frames?
>Can only talk about the show here because everywhere else is nothing but Jax Being a TADC fan is suffering
For any anon that hates people calling Jax trans given the ending, how did you tolerate Zooble, an openly trans character, for nine episodes?
>UnderstandableCaine's VA sounds like shit when he's not being Caine
You better start addressing Jax as she/they, chuds.
>>154286244Too bad fan content exists, bitch>jax is a straight white male>pomni is a straight white woman>funnybunny is canon>zooble is canonically the only tranny in the show
>>154286409jax isn't trans, where are you fucking people getting this frombecause he blushed when ribbit put her bow on him? that was goose's forcefem fetish, same as the maid outfityou guys are fucking idiots, if he was trans his happy and fulfilled real-life self would have transitioned
>>154286375I mean I have zero urge to go on Twitter and debate underages over it. It's no skin off my back whatever those people choose to believe.
>>154286366Yes I know. But now imagine that character but everyone hates him from day 1 because he's not funny or sexy or whatever magnetically attracts people to him and he's just an asshole schizo that everyone hates. He would have been just as lonely, just as anxious, just as broken but no one would have ever pried into him and he'd just be a weirdo in the background who dies one day. But by some accident, he can actually channel that charismatic confidence that makes it all work. That's the cruel part.
>>154286335The LGBBQ is eating up Ragapom and Abstragedy scenes on X so they won
>>154286417>show goes into detail on how Jax was an abusive POS >OMG THEYRE TRANS YIPEE LETS IGNORE ALL OTHER CONTEXT
>>154286420Zooble isn't trans, just "Non binary"Zooble's just a chick that likes being called they.
>>154286244Classic White woman doesn't understand that troons are not cool with "outting" them before they feel they are ready
would've nice if they released an artbook for the finale merch
>>154286420Isn't she nb?
>>154286298Based
>>154286379The maid outfit is about the only thing that implies that he's got weird gender hangups, which could just as easily be handwaved as a symptom of his Daddy AND Mommy issues, and not feeling like he's manly enough or not able to measure up to the expectations put on him. The Ribbit scene did not involve the maid outfit, though. Even that is offset by every other version of Jax being whimpering faggot, an asshole, an idiot, and a liar.
>>154286412I'm gonna respect Goose's pronouns because she made characters that I really want to fuck
>>154286424Nah, Zooble is 100% straight and rapes me nightly
>>154286368Trannies rewrite history all the fucking time. The transwoman who supposedly "threw the first brick at Stonewall" didn't show up until hours after it started. Also he wasn't even trans, just a drag queen crossdresser who identified as a man.
>>154286244Headcanon crap.
>>154286420>hates people calling Jax trans given the endingBecause Zooble being a they/them is a fact, and Jax being a tranny is theory pushed by trannies.
>>154286427Also, its pretty implied that he told his mom he was genderqueer or trans or something of that nature and thats what prompted her to go into meltdown.
>>154286422Kek! I thought i was the only one. That line really bothered me too.
>>154286423I will address Jax as was/were or bark/woof.
>>154286427leeroy is just getting back on his feet after being homelessit takes time to heal enough to be ready to start a new chapter of your life like that, it's entirely possible he's a repper
>>154286405It really does feel that way sometimes man, it doesn't get easier the longer you stay this way
https://x.com/AngryTinyZooble/status/2068051260637339810
>>154286244>>154286263i dont understand how this blabber mouth managed to stay silent on this whole matter for months after receiving EP 9 script
>>154286427>Jax isn’t transgender, he’s just a transvestite
Goose tastefully left Jax’s “thing” up to interpretation, because the point is that he’s unwilling to be vulnerable or participate in relationships, and that point is better made when it’s applied broadly because tranners don’t have a monopoly on atomization, image issues, trust issues or suicidal ideation. The exact nature of Jax’s “thing” isn’t explained, and that’s a good thing. People are too quick to put him in a box instead of seeing the bigger picture and how it applies to their own life.
>>154286059Why the fuck couldn’t they talk about everyone else abstracted?
>>154286420Zooble isn't trans. Zooble is explicitly and textually indecisive.
>>154286411It’s also completely unrealistic that there aren’t more characters that just straight up hate him, or beat his ass for his abhorrent behavior.
>>154286451it was probably that he's bi considering he goes to a gay bar in his free time
>>154286397I knew it was going to be SOMA situation from EPISODE ONE. It was not subtle at all.
>>154286444Checked. Go forth and Zooble to the extreme.
>>154286403no exactamente, Pablo Gandolfo solo participó en un proyecto fanmade del show en donde se grabó llorando como Jax, si no mal recuerdo eso a su agencia no le gustó un carajo así que lo acabaron quitando del doblaje de los últimos 2 capítulos, una pendejada total si me lo preguntas, el tipo era con diferencia el mejor actor del grupo.
>>154286335I’ve said before that this would be better as a standalone singular episode but not the FINALE, there’s still so much more we don’t know man why they even put on the headsets, how Caine just came back, what exactly is abstraction all of this to be sidelined for a transgender allegory is such an absolute waste I’m too mixed on if this was a good or bad ending.
>>154286458Why would entertaining delusions bring someone peace?
>>154286458The guy singing an anti-troon isn't she lovely cover over this was funny.
>>154286364>>154286402>>154286441This is either the sameguy samefagging himself or some plebbit cuck trying to spread "good vibes" to encourage a literal subhuman. Either way, kill yourself.
does anyone have caine ripping pomni in half
>>154286424anon you realize that from now on a significant chunk of Jax-related fan content is going to make him into a troon, right? and if not, then the creator is going to be harassed for being "transphobic"
>>154286422Canonically, is that a result of him expelling Blue?I still agree with you though.
>>154286424This is all true except Jax is purple
>>154286420I don't really consider enbies trans for some reason. Maybe it's because half of the enbies I've met are sweet (while the other halfare insufferable) while a vast majority of trannies I've met are despicable.
>>154286422He looks like shit too. (He’s on the left)
>>154286485>GRRRRRAAAHAAAHAHAHHHHHH
Well, that ending fucking sucked.I will never trust another tranny again.
>>154286417>Most horrible human being in cartoon fiction in a long while >He is trans btw>Everything is forgiven Is that easy lmao, I have seen people defending Jax saying he is written just like Walter White lmao
>>154286493Jesus, what's wrong with them?
running through my head are post-finale fanfiction ideas, chief among them one where Scratch is the main villian who is somehow un-abstracted, learns of Mike's death, believes he is the living will of his dead creator and plots to complete the "immortality" by escaping, no matter the cost to the rest of the circus
>>154286451Per the script, he said something "personal" to his mother to make her fuck off, so it was probably some kind of an insult.
>>154286485I have this
>>154286491maybe because all that shit is made up
I didn't follow any of the drama faggotry on Goose, but apparently he pissed a bunch of the fandom off. QRD on that?
>>154286482...post it?
>>154286464Ask yourself and be as honest as possible: Do you think ANYONE on the TADC writing team has the ability to write something that nuanced without any intention of invoking trannies, by far the most spotlight-hogging, all important, eternally oppressed queer demographic, and instead, simply exploring vague and indistinct self-image issues?Keep in mind, Zooble is that exact character concept already.
>>154286475yeah I was posting about it on /co/ pretty much as soon as I'd seen the show, which I think was episode 2? or 3?it was always the most logical explanation, it's not a twist just because the hints weren't in-your-face
>>154286429I mean everybody's more predisposed to liking charismatic people regardless of gender.Take the term "femcel" for existence: it's often used as a way to refer to socially averse/stunted women (just like (Me) fr) rather than the #KillAllMen types you see on Xitter.
>>154286420>how did you tolerate Zooblei didnt in fact im annoyed no one told zooble she was a fucking annoying bitch
>if you don't crACK the eggs, they will crACK themselvesWhat a message.
>>154286458How would irreparably destroying your body to feed your delusions make you a better person?
I literally don't understand what's so bad about Jax.No, like really, I feel like I'm going insane trying to situate what about him provokes such a visceral reaction in people and even in Goose, that everyone calls him irredeemable and an abuser. He's just a fucking two bit schoolyard bully doing childish pranks and living out his Looney Toons fantasies. Even his supposed most "evil" thing was just demanding Ribbit stop talking to him and Ribbit deciding to suicide over it instead of just talking to literally anyone else, which is bad from him but absurdly overreacted from her. Everything else he's ever done is just childish pranks, like legitimately I had far worse problem classmates back when I was in school, and all they got was grounded or given stern talks to. The one, single actual evil thing that could have legitimately pissed off people he seems to have ever actually done was press the button, and everyone just immediately forgets about it, accepts it wasn't real anyway and excuses it because of the panic attack anyway.This is the same fucking show where Cain actually physically and mentally tortured the whole cast for days. And unlike in the normal adventures, he actually had a say on whether they felt pain or not, so the Looney Toons shenanigans caused actual suffering rather than just annoyance.This isn't only a defense of Jax though, it's also questioning the whole story. Why the FUCK is it centered on Jax? Nothing he did was so brutal or shocking to fixate on him. He's milquetoast af. He really, unironically would just be the mediocre obligatory "funny guy" character in any other show with better writing. He did not merit swerving the entire show to focusing entirely on him. He's a fat fucking pile of nothing being shoved into the foreground while much more important and dangerous stuff gets forgotten about, and the bizarre part to me is how much the fandom seems to go all in on this, like Jax is as bad a Geoffrey Baratheon or Homelander.
>>154286496Left is the hottest thing ever.>b-butSILENCE.
Watch as this ending will kill off Glitch and force them to constantly release tadc merch to stay afloatAll they had to do was make a normal ass sincere cartoon. Instead we got tranny suicide.
is Ribbit actually a goth baddie? Because every thing about her seems to hint she was, and that just makes me hate Jax even more because he fumbled the goth baddie just like me twice
What do you think Caine was saying to make her laugh
>>154286494lel thanks
It got worse as the show focused more on muh feelings dumps over jokes.>That's what the people want! A straight couple!I think Jax was just a crossdresser desu
>>154286298Holy cringe batman
>>154286423You just know that it's going to be an annoying rule that if you call Jax a He outside of 4chan people will call you out lmao, the same way people get triggered when Kris gets called a He instead of they
>>154286519k
>>154286514Guess Humpty Dumpty had a great fall.
Pomni status?
>>154286504Yeah I don't subscribe to tranny stuff, but just something I've noticed
>>154286317Man, I wrote that like an absolute retard. Sorry, I was watching a movie and multitasking.>>154286381I might agree with you if it didn't try so hard with the montage, big farewell and everyone crying over him. The intent was pretty clearly to make it a big tearjerker episode. The Gangle thing would have been pretty clever if they actually let her not be sad but they didn't.
>>154286429There's only 5 other people to interact with, if you're the kind of guy that can't build relationships even when forced, that's on you.
After rewatching the ending again I still feel the biggest misstep for goose was ending on a happy note. bittersweet endings only really work if it ends on the sad part because of how fleeting positive emotions are and because people tend to linger on the negative ones. I don't know if reversing the order of events to Caines redemption then Jax's abstraction would work for the story but you could end on Jax's funeral, weird we didn't get to see it.Secondly ribbit does come off as kind of obsessed with Jax; Weirdly so, like take a hint and go hang out with Kaufmo and RagathaThirdly Caine needs to be shown doing more for those that abstracted, even if it doesn't amount to much those are the ones he hurt the most and its anti-cathartic to not address that.Fourthly why didn’t pomni tell anyone she was able to go into abstracted Jax’s mind, seems kind of important considering everyone else was treating him like he was just a monster now and the only other one who kind of knows that there’s something left in the abstracted is Kinger, again it’s anti-cathartic to not address this. Overall mid ending to a mid-show held up by good animation and Music.
>>154286519He drove two people to suicide and was working on doing that to the rest of the characters all because his mom laughed at him once.
>>154286508Yes I think that’s exactly what was done in the show. Zooble’s “thing” was also very tastefully/universally handled outside of the they/them pronoun.
>>154286519He’s basically a serial killer
>>154286506I don't have it.
>>154286464>Jax’s “thing” up to interpretationI would agree if the conversation with his mom was the only hint but that coupled with the maid outfit and very especially the blush and smile after the ribbon thing didnt leave much to interpretation. Jax's thing is that he is either trans or non binary or something of that sort and they called him a 'he' because he never told anyone what he is so it would be distasteful to assume.
>>154286121Everyone who abstracted lived for some period before abstracting and changed during that time. Creating a fresh copy would not have that difference.>he can just recreate the memories and implant themI don't think episode 5/6 is evidence of that at all. His NPC copies were not exact duplicates, and he also said he can only make temporary modifiers. Scratch abstracted when he tried to do something larger scale.Besides which, the whole point of the show is that it was cruel of Caine to create life and try to force it to live the way he wanted, so inventing new people and brainwashing them to act how they want wouldn't be a very ethical thing to do.
>>154286539How would you feel if your best friend started ghosting you after you had an intimate conversation?
>>154286519>Even his supposed most "evil" thing was just demanding Ribbit stop talking to him and Ribbit deciding to suicide over it instead of just talking to literally anyone elseJax intentionally isolated her from the friend group and gaslit her about his story, which would fuck up anyone who was emotionally vulnerable in that moment. Then he did the same to another person, and tried doing it to Pomni.He's just an irredeemable monster.
>>154286420Just barely. I had to go to /lgbt/ and shit on trannies after each episode to cleanse myself.
>>154286514>Human Jax is fine on his own Maybe because it’s not the message. Digital Jax is an asshole that spat in everyone’s face and told himself he was beyond help.
>>154286540He didn't "bully 2 people to suicide", he told Ribbit to stop talking to him. That's it. Ribbit is just yet another characters absurdly overreacting to anything and everything Jax does. Why didn't SHE talk to Ragatha when Ragatha is so obsessed with being there for everyone and helping everyone?Why is one of the lessons of the show "Sometimes people need time to themselves and you should just leave them alone" but then when it's Jax's turn to need time alone, it provokes suicides? It's retarded writing.
>>154286541Then you're lying to yourself.
>>154286493What the fuck?
>>154286499American
>>154286479jajjaj, se ardieron porque se los salto, pero al final es para que los actores entiendan que los personajes no les pertenecen si no seria un desmadre tipo chavo del 8
Isn't She Precious is one of my favorite songs, and now these fucking freaks are going to ruin it for the rest of time. I hate this so fucking much.
Jax's problems would be solved if he got some Gangle pussy earlier.
>Name: Ragatha>Occupation: NEET going on sick adventures of her choosing wherever and whenever she wants>Age: Permanently 30>Family: Kinger (Adoptive Father), The Gloink Queen (Adoptive Mother), Gloinks (Siblings), Ragamom (Estranged)>Wife: Pomni (and/or the Evils, Looli, etc)>Husband: (you) the viewer (and/or Caine, Kinger, Gummigoo, etc)>Hobbies: Softball, Horseback Riding, Wacky Conjuration Sex, Horror Movies>Pets: Horses, a weird looking dog>Hopes: Things to stay the way they are for as long as possible>Fears: Assuaged>Fun Fact: RAEA (Right About Everything Award) recipient every year in perpetuity
>>154286458>HOI4I'm just imagining him only playing Germany while writing AAR's about killing all the Jews. Then he gets on here and calls everyone else troons and trannies.
>>154286550But I had breakfast this morning
>>154286483KYS, no fun faggot.
chuds lostI've always been left leaningjax is a beautiful womanthat is all
Did Murder Drones have a better ending?
RIP Kaufmo, we didn't know you
>>154286511I know but I'm just venting about the cruelty of that situation. Even the charismatics who suffer suffer in cool and interesting ways where others care about them.
>>154286544>Jax's thing is that he is either trans or non binary or something of that sort and they called him a 'he' because he never told anyone what he is so it would be distasteful to assumeWait till you find out that femboys exist. Or drag queens.
>>154286500Jax should’ve become the main villain, and Caine should’ve never come back.
>>154286486Who cares? Draw more of him untrannied to piss them off
>wake up>it's out>mfw those numbers
>>154286519>Why the FUCK is it centered on Jax?It's a character study, like Taxi Driver. Jax is broken and we get to see Pomni try and only-sort-of-fail to put him back together. He's completely fucked in the head and those kinds of people make for interesting stories. Same reason people liked Joker.
>>154286562spectacular bait
>>154286537>Thirdly Caine needs to be shown doing more for those that abstracted, even if it doesn't amount to much those are the ones he hurt the most and its anti-cathartic to not address that.They made a nice little aquarium for them instead of a dingy pit in the ground.
>>154286519>Going against the hivemindOh nonono!
>>154286556Did you watch the episode? Because it sounds like you're ignoring everything that contradicts your poorly constructed argument. He explicitly shat all over them until they believed he hated them and everyone else distanced themselves from him because he was such a constant, unrepentant cunt all the time.
>>154286533Married to me and healing from the mental scars left by J*x.
>>154286483wtf is your problem? The guy's got a cool t-shirt and a cute Ragatha plushie. how does this make you assblasted
>>154286570that shit ended too?i thought it went into hiatus after TADC blew up
THE PUNISHMENT THAT JAX DESERVED
>>154286519The average fan of this series is very underage and/or extremely autistic, that is why the worst than you can apparently do to somebody is cut them off.
>>154286554You know /lgbt/ can be based sometimes right? >>>/lgbt/43961949
>>154286591Dude, you are late.
>>154286493What's that thing in the middle and on the right? I didn't know Hutts could be albino.
I guess we can play with this now.
>>154286591It's been over for years, dude. Retarded faggots think it's totally going to get another season any day now, though.
>>154286564Blessed
>>154286590Why are you defending an ugly lolcow? Feel like he's your kindred spirit lol?
>>154286600Off-model. Can't masturbate to this.
What a wild ride this has all been. I'm going to miss you guys.
One day someone will forget to pay an electricity bill and everything will have been for naught
>>154286612It's canon.
>>154286580it's gonna outdo gameoverse before the end of tomorrow lol
The leak threads and theater threads were funny. This one kind of sucks.
alright, the thread is just jaxfags coping about him being a troon and the usual dindu nuffin bs so I'm off. wake me up when these dogs quit barking
>>154286571Goose said he was annoying that Pomni would’ve hated him.
>>154286570Not really, that one just felt like a season finale that was never gonna get followed up on.
>>154286597That's why I go to /lgbt/ to shit on trannies. They are the absolute champions of shitting on trannies. /pol/ can't even compete.
>>154286562thistrannies are the worst
>>154286519The characters are stuck in a place where causing stress = death, why would someone ever consider being a Giga bully asshole for fun
>>154286519I dont understand why you dont understand it, the framing of the show is that his actions explicitly drove two people to suicide and he was the leading reason why anybody else in the cast was contemplating suicide. And all of this out of sheer selfishness. And this is not even mentioning that he maybe killed his mom.
>>154286576The more you talk, the more I hate you. Just thought you should know.
>>154286585Why the fuck didn't Ribbit or Kaufmo talk to anyone else instead of abstracting? The one time Jax needs alone time it drives people to suicide? Its artificially crafted in an unnuanced way to make Jax look as bad as possible.
>>154286625See ya, retard.
>>154286539>>154286556I think that one scene where Jax dismisses Ribbit while talking to the rest of the cast is to show that he was willing to exclude Ribbit from everybody else if it meant she would stop trying to rekindle their friendship.At the same time though it's retarded because Jax doesn't really become a jackass until Ribbit's abstraction, and like you said, EVERYBODY ELSE IN THE CIRCUS IS FINE. I get that it's for the sake of themes and such, but Jax's and Ribbit's thing was ultimately just a simple mishap that either Ragatha or Kaufmo could've easily ironed out. There really wasn't a need for Ribbit to abstract except because she had to for the plot.
Gangle was so real for this.>>154286588Mmm crispy
>>154286583That’s still keeping them caged up like animals, and they’re still suffering.
>>154286633>The characters are stuck in a place where causing stress = deathabstraction is just a metaphor for suicide and that's a thing that exists in the real world
>>154286063fine goose, if abstraction cant be reversed, how about two brainscans merging together?
>>154286625They will never quit barking. In fact, I expect more cope now that the whole internet can watch the finale.
As a chud I feel satisfied with this show, genuinely don’t care about some JK Rowling dumbledore is gay posts on twitter by a VA after the fact.
>>154286207Jesus that jawline. Nature does not give a fuck what you identify as.
>>154286612I'm sorry you're autistic.But have a good day anyway.>>154286618In a different timeline, perhaps.
>>154286635>And this is not even mentioning that he maybe killed his mom.well his real self is off doing his thing so maybe it wasnt that bad
>>154286530But Kris is a he
>>154286620Gameoverse feels hollow in a way I can't really describe. Things happen, but it doesn't feel like anything happens.
Jax is a hyperpop artist now.
>>154286599The composer.
>>154286570Yeah. It was just a big dumb shonen battle but at least it was kind of fun. Way better than what we got it pains me to say.
>>154286653>But have a good day anyway.Will do.
>>154286643No, it isn’t
>>154286640Gangle is finally free
Jax did nothing wrong. He played the games and everyone hates him for some reasonHe was literally Caines ideal audience and the whole cast should have been like him so there could actually be an Amazing Digital Circus
>>154286666then explain how that kid became an hero
>>154286562That's how I feel about the Ikea shark. All it takes is for some faggot writing an article on Salon or Vice or whatever titled, "How [insert thing you like] Became a Trans Icon".
If Jax survived to the Circus 2.0 he could have conjured himself into an actual woman if he wanted. Real pussy and tits and everything.
I lean right in politics and I like the show. Would the creators hate that?
>>154286180i think it's time to make one
>consume media>enjoy it>don't engage in meaningless debacle (what the allegory should be about)love me a life goes on ending.
Anybody trying to claim "Jax LITERALLY killed them!!" is a tranny trying to push the idea that suicide is the fault of anybody except the one committing it
>>154286591the show had its finale like years ago lmao
>>154286546>Everyone who abstracted lived for some period before abstracting and changed during that timeProof? Cause that is never shown nor brought up>I don't think episode 5/6 is evidence of that at allIt 100% is, he copied their appearances and voices, just reversed their personalities that was it. And he literally implants memories for Jax.>the whole point of the show is that it was cruel of Caine to create life and try to force it to live the way he wanted1. i hear many different whatever themes about this shit so hard to believe2. That would be nice if it didn't end up not mattering since they're all literally just data
>>154286668I thought you abstracted?
>>154286581All of those movies you mentioned actually bothered giving us reasons to care about the deranged main characters and didn't start off as stories about a large cast of much more likable characters before switching to them in the middle.
>>154286672Goose has been extremely chill, the vas get uppity about politics though. Pretty sure the only /pol/post I’ve seen goose make is when some irl troll went to a convention and started calling people negas loudly.
>>154286672Goose is a bit of a chud herself.
>>154286681>it's been almost two yearswhat the fuck? it feels like it was barely a year ago
>>154286636This is what I'm talking about. If I hate the charisma this wouldn't happen
>>154286633And it's not like he's even doing it for fun. It's his poorly-written coping mechanism, which he has to run to the nearest mirror and seethe about, because somehow not wanting people to get close to him means he also has to have a realistic panic attack every time he feels emotions that aren't feigned annoyance and boredom.>>154286637>Why the fuck didn't Ribbit or Kaufmo talk to anyone else instead of abstracting? Because the show is poorly written and the flashbacks were explicitly showing all of the ways Jax abused and harmed Ribbit and Kaufmo until they abstracted.>The one time Jax needs alone time it drives people to suicide?You dumbass. He wasn't looking for "alone time." He was trying to push them away by being as mean and dismissive and rude as possible. Pay attention to the fucking episode. He even says directly, during the very emotional, very angry argument in the snowy area, that he doesn't want Ribbit to learn his secrets so she can make fun of him. You're fucking retarded if you think Ribbit and Kaufmo abstracted because Jax just wanted to be alone for a little bit for no particular reason.
>>154286080Should've show Pomni opening her door to Ragatha and inviting her inside next
>>154286676low cortisol way of engaging with entertainment desu
>>154286670Oh I fucking hate that. The shark is very cute, and literally nobody thinks of it as a troon thing in Japan.
>>154286672I don't think so.
>>154286691QRD on the goose drama?
>>154286690Lol she's not chilled out. She had a breakdown from mild criticism.
>>154286691She's also into some kinky shit
Ok, is it just me or does it feel like there is a scene missing? On one scene Jax walks away from Pomni and a cut and then Jax abstracted off screen and they are all contemplating what happened. Jax's abstraction is the epicenter of the episode and perhaps the whole show, and they dont even show how he abstracts? We just get the aftermath? Wot?
As a dum dum, for a while I was preparing myself to accept that there was unlikely ever a way out, and any ending would just involves mostly character stories.I'm a bit impressed they somehow pulled the same bullshit of dropping the gay lore. C&A? Headsets? The fact that people are still dropping in across many decades? Kinger was only a minor player in creating Caine to say much else, new "people" just stops showing up after Pomni, and despite the circus having limited access to the internet and falling apart when Caine was gone, Caine was still enabled to operate the circus by whatever outside power source, along with a cloud server big enough to host him.But then again, this is the same studio that dropped the human colony bullshit from murder drones, and just had the MC living with her biggest villain either inside or around them, rebuilding and living in the same world they hated so much before, and once again having to end the entire show after a major character arc, leaving leftover worldbuilding as bait for future minor contents and fanworks... Heh, here we go again.
>>154286676Enlightened
>>154286656i thik it's because they go from place to place so fastno real home they belong to, besides the ship
I just finished watching the last episode after getting off work. So is that it then? Or are they leaving the door open to do shit like with the abstractions later? I don't have any social media so I have know idea about shit.
>>154286696Well, let me give you some advice. Whining about how much better other people have it and how much your life sucks is the opposite of having charisma, so don't do that.
Bro Jax wtf you actually mindbroke a person to death, fuck you jesus christ
>>154286705Please for the love of god, anons, I beg you all, separate your personal accounts from professional ones.
>>154286712That's it. That's the end. Goose has 100% said they are done with the series and don't want to touch it again.
Listen to Songs in the Key of Life by Stevie Wonder
Alright now that the show is over I’m going to try and find some good lewd Ragatha ficsLater ‘bators
>>154286708it's meant to feel abrupt like real loss
>>154286723I should.
It’s sad that Goose lost all interest in the show
>>154286714Yes I know. Because if I had charisma then it's not whining it's "opening up"
>>154286708>they dont even show how he abstracts? We just get the aftermath?That's the point. The narrative, at least in episode 9, up to that point is fragmented.
>>154286708i thought it was a sober way of doing it, just cutting to it have happened
>>154286138I don't know if it will have a "happy" ending. But considering what we've seen from him and his team over the last decade, I have faith he can wrap it up with a nice bow.
>>154286712creator said that abstraction are equal to suicide in the digital world as in it is a loss of selfhowever it does leave the door open if GLITCH ever became corporate enough to produce an S2 of TADC
>>154286688>didn't start off as stories about a large cast of much more likable characters before switching to them in the middle.that's a fair criticismBut I think Joker was less sympathetic than Jax because he was completely bugfuck insane. Jax is pitiable because all his bad behavior is ultimately motivated by self-loathing. It's a calculated attempt either to protect himself, or to punish himself. He's still fucked in the head, but it's more relatable than "literally detached from reality."
>>154286697>He was trying to push them away by being as mean and dismissive and rude as possible.Which Ribbit engaged 98% of the time. Relationships end for all sorts of reasons, move the fuck on.
>>154286723Keyed.
>>154286731It’s a bit daunting because it’s really long. But it has 100% earned its reputation as an all-time classic.
>>154286701Idk if the face means they're reconsidering "being nice" or they're disappointed in the person asking?
>>154286733What's the drama with her and the show? Is it over just the fans being raging retards?
>>154286519For me it's the fact that we did 9 episodes of this "I'm scared of being vulnerable and relationships scare so I push everyone away by being an asshole" song and dance, AND IT DIDN'T HAVE ANY PAY OFF He was an asshole in life and died an asshole.Get a fucking character arc, idiot, and don't waste my time next time
Why would you seriously waste time defending Jax?
>>154286744But Jax was in some schizoverse while Abstracted
>>154286396Silly anon, suicide has no age barrier
>>154286197>avatars were coded to match the subconscious personalities and feelings of each personThis just isn't true, caine just put random shit on them.
>don't be an immature assholethat's a good message
>>154286757Sunk cost fallacy?
Quick shitpost
>>154286754The plan was always to produce a short seriesthe fact that it blew up in the way it did made goose hurry the fuck up to get it over with faster
>>154286747Buddy, please rewatch the fucking episode. It is extremely explicit and open with what happened. Jax was afraid of getting hurt, so he acted like a huge asshole to everyone so they couldn't hurt him first, and he regretted it the entire time because he's a cowardly piece of shit. He fucking exploded after crying about how he didn't deserve forgiveness or for anyone to care about him.
>>154286762But Jax dindu nuffin!
>>154286570Yep
>>154286738Remember when he prevented the shelter codes from being collectable and hid the final prophecy for the sake of another mystery box
>>154286765lol
>>154286709>The fact that people are still dropping in across many decades?This one is addressed, indirectly. Caine is pulling brainscan files and deliberately creating bodies for them and inserting them into the world. Even if people are still being scanned, they won't show up in the Circus if Caine doesn't put them there.>But then again, this is the same studio that dropped the human colony bullshit from murder drones,They did this because the pilot for Murder Drones was total dogshit and the original story direction was bad.
>>154286751I don't mind long albums, I'm a sucker for double LPs.
>>154286656Nikka its a fucking pilot
>>154286702Goose is one of those edgelord millenials whose crimes against wokeness are forgiven by the woke crowd because she is part of the protected special class. Pretty much the same as Keffals.
Wait, why does it matter if she's trans or not? I really don't see how it's a problem.
>>154286744>however it does leave the door open if GLITCH ever became corporate enough to produce an S2 of TADC>"if"See you boys next year.
>>154286236basd fisguy
>>154286668you don’t actually believe that
>>154286770Is funny how Duffy's digital circus is better at doing the whole >Each episode focus on a certain character Better than what Goose tried to do
>>154286755>He was an asshole in life and died an asshole.
>>154286079lol
>>154286762Making the entire series about Jax and his bullshit isn’t.
>>154286475I left it could be SOMA but could also be a more Matrix type deal where they were in tubes.
>>154286138I wouldn't bet on this dog, he's a good composer tho.I'm surprised he hasn't come out as trans yet.
>>154286121How does someone end up this retarded? It can't just be autism. Ignoring that the brainscan data is now corrupted and copies can’t be made. A relationship is built on the shared memories and experiences forged between two people. Creating a new version of someone who’s gone won’t include any of that history. You’d simply be bringing a new person into existence.
>>154286792I just wanted the adventures
>>154286391goose...
>>154286752I think disappointed. Goose had pretty level-headed takes about the election while it was still happening
>>154286701What does this even mean?
>>154286786Gooseworx? It doesn’t matter. But it’s also not very surprising to learn lol
>>154286700Been putting off getting one. Always liked sharks, and I shouldn't let a vocal group of the mentally ill change that.
>>154286080if you look closely, she's actually smiling as she's covering her face with the box
>>154286637Jax didn't say "I need time alone". He insulted and belittled people in order to drive them away from him. That is what makes him evil; he uses emotional abuse instead of honest communication.
>>154286806They're. All. fucking. Data. you retard
>>154286810Do you think she is still like this?
>>154286810This was before she transitioned too lol
Goose is one of those pre-2019 trannies so he had some sense of normalcy. He’s self-aware enough to voice a male character in his own show.The post-2019 wave is made up of raging narcissists who will cry if you misgender Jax and refuse to accept their head canon as absolute gospel.
>>154286812I'm not referring to him.
>>154286788well i think they are going to pretend they are just a "smol indie company" a little while longer
The writing absolutely held this show back. Good premise, interesting characters and visuals, but the story was total garbage.
>>154286810It was a lot more understandable at the time.
>>154286810>The world is so retarded that the tranny is the voice of reasonImagine my shock.
>>154286770Can we swap Jax and Jack and call it a day?
>jax is transgay>jax is a girlbased
>>154286730>>154286736>>154286737Ok but the last interaction between him and Pomni didnt even seem that bad, just part for the course and randomly there is no Jax anymore. It was a bit jarring.
>>154286824Wait, theres good trannies and bad trannies that are mostly seperated by era?
>>154286782>Caine is pulling brainscan files and deliberately creating bodies for them and inserting them into the world.Pomni explained that she found the headset while urbex'ing the abandoned and decaying C&A building. She clearly found the headset years and years after C&A had shut down. I'd believe that Caine could have dropped in her brainscan after Kaufmo abstracted, but it's very obvious that there are large gaps in time from when the Circus was made to when Pomni arrived. Jax and Zooble make references to Breaking Bad, which came out 12 years after the Circus was made by Caine in 96
Shut up! Jax is my idol! He can't be a troon the drives women who care about him to suicide! I need to be able to self-insert as him having orgies with all the women he abused!
>>154286786because zooble doesn't have anything else to her charactershe's just trans... and that's itshallow character writing
>>154286765heh, good one
I remember joking back in 2025 that it would be really funny if the entire show was a trans metaphor. Amusing looking back.
>>154286769>so he acted like a huge assholeTo Ribbit, which she kept engaging because she couldn't get over Jax pushing her off, and then the rest after she died. It is ridiculous that I am supposed to actually take what happened to her seriously when it is based on insanely immature behavior.
>>154286799Probably because it’s taking more inspiration from IHNMAIMS, and the game was all about each character having their own story section.
>>154286735No, it'd still be fucking whining. I'm sick of cowards like you blaming everything bad in your life on some unquantifiable thing outside your control. People don't like you because you're not likeable, and you're not likeable because you'd rather convince yourself you're some tortured soul than learn how not to be so goddamn annoying
>>154286839That's usually how it happens.
>>154286830Interesting setting but focus just went in a different direction to what the Pilot gave the impression of.
>>154286824Goose is a rare sensible tranny.That was still rare in 2019, though.
>>154286777yeah, he likes doing tricky shit like that.
>>154286702Goose was a /pol/ poster before 2017 when he started transitioning, just like jaxJax is literally his self insert
>>154286824Eh, AssignedMale is also a pre-2019 trannie and look at that trainwreck.
>>154286810I’m just a chud that wants to be accepted
Okay, that ending was kind of a whimper.
>>154286852>To RibbitTo everyone. For the entire fucking show. It was his primary character trait and how he interacted with everyone, why he spazzed out on Pomni in the gun episode. It's why everyone distanced themselves from him in the finale. You're not just wrong, you're extremely fucking retarded.
>>154286464>tranners don’t have a monopoly on atomization, image issues, trust issues or suicidal ideationThey really don’t, but holy fuck they have the worst reaction to it
>>154286844I’ve related to female characters before. So relating to a transgender character is no sweat. I’m secure enough in my own identity that I’m not shaken by such things. And we’re all human, so it’s only natural that we share relatable characteristics and emotions, even across racial, cultural, or gender lines.
>>154286843Yeah, people are still getting scanned. But getting scanned doesn't put them in the Circus. Getting scanned just means their brain is available for Caine. He outright says in ep 8 that he created their bodies for them.
>>154286848Back when the internet was freaking out about Daisy theory
>>154286810>tfw i could probably have talked to goose at /pol/ back then.
>>154286821Okay so not ignoring the former. That data is corrupted.
>SOMA theory is real>Sex Update is real>Everyone gets to be happy >Except Jax and everyone who Abstracted, they're still dead.I'm mad.
>>154286145the insatiable urge to clap frog cheeks
>>154286879He said he created a program that creates avatars for them based on their personalities.
>>154286873don't even bothera surprisingly small number of people seem to really understand jax's character and dynamic with the other circus members even after it's all spelled out for them
>>154286822No, she said if you're racist you should be killed.
No more Digital Circus forever and ever. Farewell losers.
>>154286842Most post-2020 trannies these days are trans due to oversocialization. They’re pathological narcissists, the kind of people who would try to cancel you over playing the Harry Potter game.There are people who are genuinely affected by gender dysphoria, but the disorder affects like 1 in 100,000 people. By comparison, the new trans wave is made up mostly of autogynephilic people.
>>154286746Jonkler wound up less sympathetic but when you meet him is a down and out guy who just want to become a comedian and date a cute ebony chick. There is a real human element there that makes his journey into becoming a monster feel more tragic. Everything positive we learn about Jax only comes after he is already dead and it is all stuff that may not have even applied to the Jax we knew.That is what frustrated me about Jax. He is an asshole but he is completely uninteresting asshole. His story was just: 'He bullied people because he was insecure about being some flavor of gay then died. By the way the real Jax is a mailman now.' If the show was honest about being a character study about a jerk from jump it could have built something that would have been genuinely cool with him.
>>154286864He should stop doing that. He made a linear game, but for some reason has a problem making the game go in a straight line? Seems like a bad writer.If you can't do the thing you need to progress the game, it's a bad game. So far, Deltarunes story just happens to you, the opposite of a good rpg.
>>154286807You went to McDonalds for shrimp
>>154286883>non-zero chance Epstein called Goose a faggot on /pol/
/a/non here.Why are western VAs and authors incapable of shutting the fuck up? Don't talk about the characters unless it's banal trivia, don't give hints about the story while it's developing, don't interact with your fans unless it's important info regarding the project. Goose at least understood the assignment after being cancelled, but now the VA's are validating fan theories while there is a reason goose kept it relatively vague. What do you call this behavior?
>>154286836I want Jax to scream and cry like a bitch when he realizes that even Abstraction can’t save him from Jester.
Jax is my PLAYTHING and I got JOY out of watching him abstract.
>>154286824>>154286810>>154286701Fuck it. Whatever. I'll use the fucking pronouns. She's earned my respect.
>>154286894Notice how she said "genuinely racist" in that tweet?
>>154286858Its what happens from the perspective of other people, we only get Jax's sort of perspective after it happens and I think its too abrupt. We could have had Pomni's whole insight into Jax and then him abstracting after and I think it would have made a better narrative.
>>154286897source?
>>154286800No, I'm gonna die *from* an assholeThere's a difference.I'll be suffocated under a beautiful lady
>>154286902I don't even eat McDonald's
>>154286873>Saying this while telling other people to rewatch the episodelollmaoAlright, what do you think the point of that scene with Jax giving Gangle her name was? I want you to specifically reference the reactions of Kaufmo and Ragatha in your response.
>>154286905Jeff only came to 4chan to look up FNAF porn. He never even mentioned /pol/ once unless that was all in the 9/11 chunk of emails they refused to share lmao
>>154286256He's a drag queen/lady boy/crossdresserNot necessarily the same as trans.
>>154286906From Goose's perspective it might not be vague. She did make a tweet like a month ago talking about how she'll carefully lay out hints to something just for people to go "well I don't want that so I'm going to ignore it".
>>154286906That's what happens with shit writers who can't craft a coherent story - others have to fill the holes.
do you guys think if jax just got properly dicked as as a troon he'd just chill out
>>154286906They’re all fandom weirdos lol. Gooseworx is too, but is slightly too smart to fall for it.
>>154286912Notice how she called for the death of people with different opinions than her?
>>154286830The story was decent in the early episodes, but towards the end I kind of lost interest.At least the ending is still kinda bleak if you think about it. Being a copy and knowing you're stuck in that digital world forever isn't great. I wonder how much Goose was inspired by Ghost in the Shell, or even the game Everhood. Both of those have themes
>>154286785I thought the whole point of the woke crowd was that they cannibalize their own?Also, you lose your minority card for wrongthink: e.g. JK Rowling, Ben Shapiro, Candace Owens, Milo Yiannopoulos, Larry Elder, Armstrong Williams, Thomas Sowell, Dennis Prager, etc.
So these characters are just computer simulations generated by brain scans? So then it's no real big deal if they just abstract?
>>154286914sealion-kun...
>>154286138Toby Fox's stuff is far more engaging. Literally. It's a game. You can interact and play with the characters how you like. It's a better experience but it's not a TV show.
>>154286919Now you're just dodging the point and still ignoring the entire fucking show to protect your headcanon. Did you think he was being nice to Gangle when he gave her a demeaning nickname? Genuinely. How are you even a fan of this show when you don't even pay attention to the overt story beats?
>>154286799Frankly it would be hard to do worse. Even SU did it better and that show had a POV rule that Steven always had to be present in every scene.
>>154286898Every single one of these women pegging Jax while he wears the maid outfit
>>154286855If you have to learn, you're already too late
>>154286898I don’t understand why we should care about any of the real life counterparts. We didn’t follow their adventures and or struggles for years, so their existence is largely irrelevant.
>>154286928See:>>154286701
I still think the thumbnail they used was a bad choice
>>154286933They're recreations of those brains. Caine specifically says they're unique, that he can't just make them as they are. They're still thinking, sapient beings.
If Jax died on the streets before being able to enter the circus, everyone would have been a lot happier.
>>154286933It’s just a story, they’re just characters
>>154286898For me, it's not that he's redeemed but rather that he's forgiven. All his bad behavior comes from a place of hurt. Pomni realized this, so she reached out and gave him peace in his last moments.Honestly, it feels oddly Christian. Jax is the prodigal son, the sinner who repents on his deathbed. We see why he acted the way he did. It doesn't excuse his behavior, but it does help us understand him, pity him. For me, I can't help but want to see someone like that get better.
>>154286933>So then it's no real big deal if they just abstract?Is a copy of the conscience of person also a person?
>>154286949Yeah what does that have to do with her more recent statement calling for the death of people who have different opinions than her?
>>154286900Are you seriously complaining you can’t skip to the final chapter by unlocking the bunker codes?
>ep. 9: happy ending>They are still trapped in the circus with nowhere else to go>people can still stumble into the building and scan themselves in>the abstractions still exist >Caine had internet access which means the circus could be discovered and interacted with from the outsideI'm sure Glitch doesn't wanna lose the merch sales and will do something in the future with TADC.
>>154286942>your headcanonAnd whats that?>How are you even a fan of this show when you don't even pay attention to the overt story beats?I'm just here to talk about how fucking stupid the entire Ribbit/Kaufmo/Ragatha/Jax dynamic is. Its so bad that it makes it impossible for me to take what happened between the lot of them seriously.
>>154286939But you can't. The game doesnt let you have an opinion on the characters and prevents you from making progress to finish the game and throws a tantrum when the heroes who have weapons don't get all the recruits which should be optional
Is this the ending you would have preferred?
Zoobles
>>154286973
>>154286914Look up statistics for gender dysphoria. Most trans cases are a social contagion.
>>154286975Did he get cloned or something?
>>154286950The alternate ending cope was funny. We got to see Jaxfags dreams crushed one more time.
>>154286842NTA but yes. Had a friend who was a tranny who used to live in Vegas and constantly complain about how much she hated Indians (both native Americans and jeets) and Mexicans. If I brought up anything trans-related, she'd just say she didn't want to talk about it. The only reason I even refer to her as her is because I got used to it from only talking to her online. She didn't try to dress like a girl or put on that incredibly off-putting girl voice either.
>>154286979No. Those are Jax and Pomni’s Hellspawn.
>>154286923>it might not be vagueI'm not buying it. Goose is not a bad story writer.If she wanted to make Jax an strict trans allegory she would've confirmed it easily through the story.She kept it vague enough so people could relate to Jax's problems despite not being 0.5% of the world population.
>>154286968The server the Digital Circus is on will inevitably degrade and die direct human involvement is there to save the day. Not a very happy ending, desu.
>>154286928>brownest white nationalist defending his right to hate browner people
>>154286969>I'm just here to talk about how fucking stupid the entire Ribbit/Kaufmo/Ragatha/Jax dynamic is. Its so bad that it makes it impossible for me to take what happened between the lot of them seriously.We're actually in full agreement, but if you're the same anon I've been going back and forth with, your read on every interaction is objectively wrong.
>>154286935>sealionOh cool I learned a new word today.Does it also apply to these guys?>>154286812>>154286845
>>154286967I might be more upset that you eventually will be able to do that. it makes it so the shelter codes are essentially meaninglessGame should have come out complete with unskippable chapters so that this setback in chapter 4 could be rectified in a reasonable amount of time instead of a full year.
>>154286845Zoob has other stuff. She's a pessimist but in a lazy, contrarian way. Also the only character with a libido. And uh, well I guess that's it?
>>154286986cute
>>154286842>>154286897Anon you're off by at least half a decade. Tumblr was having discourse about transmedicalism in, I dunno, 2014? The social contagion is way older than 2020.
>>154286102They left a little something in the last thread. It's pretty easy to find, just follow my posts.Monkeys are funny.
I like that they wrote Jax as a trans character so successfully that she managed to convince Ribbit to commit suicide as well as her.Brava Goose, Brava.
what is this shit? movie SUCKS!
>>154286972> The game doesnt let you have an opinion on the characters and prevents you from making progress to finish the game and throws a tantrum when the heroes who have weapons don't get all the recruits which should be optionalIt does none of those things, you are weak willed and stupid
why are people calling this a movie when it's like 20 mins longer than a normal episode
>>154287001Not a single soul alive shares your absurd complaints about this game
>>154287036it's a TV movie
>>154287001Also majora's mask(2000) let you get its code or at least try to unlock it with less than an hour of gameplay. No technical limitation is holding him back, it's done out of spiteAt least make it possible to actually pick up the codes
>>154286047Cant say I like it, Game of Thrones-tier ending TBQH. Specially annoying Cane going >no more secretsBut instead of talking about the company or how these randos got hooked up to the machine, or how is still running, or how the minds behind it dont know or care about these brain scans still running around in the simulation we got...Im just glad it's over and I can move on with my life.
>>154287036The "movie" forced you to rewatch episode 8 if you went to the theater
>>154287011Unfortunately it seems the tucutes won, and now everyone has to suffer because of it.
>>154286810Very oddly based. You know... [sigh] she can't be a zoomer because she's not a reactionary baby.And I can relate. My best friend is a dirty pinko commie bastard, but we just don't talk about that stuff, and that's that.
how is it possible to miss the point of both TADC and Deltarune so hard?
>>154286933You are just a sackful of chemicals reacting with each other, so it's no real big deal if you die.There is no form of life in the universe which you cannot apply this logic to. Nothing alive is actually objectively significant to the point where its life actually matters. Any sentiment attached to any form of life is purely subjective.The moral is that boiling life down to essentialism is extremely unhealthy and the meaning that we choose to give things matters. If these simulations think and feel in all of the ways that make human life supposedly precious, what reason is there to not give them the same value as humanity?
>>154287021The game might prevent you from reaching the end credits if you don't get all the recruits. Imagine if pokemon did that, that's the end of the brand
>>154286570Absolutely. It was kino, and the show was overall better IMO.
>>154287052>Unfortunately it seems the tucutes wonYeah, but what you're forgetting is that the word "truscum" is older than "transmedicalist." The idea of transmedicalism was being framed in a negative light pretty much as soon as it was identified. Transgenderism is extremely appealing to narcissists because it literally alllows them to jerk off to themselves.
>>154286842>>154287011I literally know nothing about transgender or lgbtq culture other than people saying its hated a lot and it actually being true for some reason. I'm Ace so i really don't get why it's a big deal if you prefer the opposite gender.
>>154287059I just wanna go on an adventure that's why in play gamesThe point is superficial if you can't reach the end of the game and beat it
>>154287047>But instead of talking about the company or how these randos got hooked up to the machine, or how is still running, or how the minds behind it dont know or care about these brain scans still running around in the simulationWhy does any of that matter? The focus of this show was always the characters, not the lore.
>>154287092so wait for the game to be finished, retard
Ribbit, my abstracted beloved.
I don't really know how to feel about the ending. I don't really know what I was expecting, but I know I just feel a little unsatisfied despite their best attempt to wrap everything up. Maybe I just didn't like Jax enough, so half the episode being focused solely on him put me off a bit, and I can't imagine people that actually liked Jax would have liked anything that happened in this episode.Seeing Ragatha and Pomni and Kinger attempting to fix the circus by learning to create shit themselves was honestly kind of interesting and I wish they touched on it more. Cain just being back but he's good now feels a bit half baked
>>154286866I wonder how many others on /pol/ are just like her and cope by projecting all over the board? Really makes you think.
>>154286987>Goose is not a bad story writer.LolLmao
>>154287108All of that objectively matters more than Jax's backstory.
>>154287047>>154287108unironically themes and suchsorry technical guys its not your story
>>154287110Many such cases!
>>154286676Found the most based post in the thread.
>>154286709>>154286782They didn't drop shit in MD you media illiterate retard. The show mentions and visually shows what happened to earth and the other Human exoplanets. Copper 9 is the last exoplanet the Absolute Solver attempts to eat before presumably eating the universe too. The core collapse of Copper 9, a vital event, is shown in the Pilot and the reason for it happen literally occurs in a flashback in Episode 7. Holy fuck TADC fags are retarded.
>>154287050oh thats how it got to theaters because i was wondering what they did with the fact that its only an hour long
>>154287066>The game might prevent you from reaching the end credits if you don't get all the recruits. Imagine if pokemon did that, that's the end of the brandWhere did you hear that? Undertale did something incredibly similar, anyway, so I don’t know what you were expecting
>>154287047Or why he withheld their names...
>>154287066Yeah, it isn't going to do that. Undertale had a shit ton of endings where you didn't save everyone and they were pretty nice slightly bittersweet endings for the most part unless you went on a full on murder spree.You'll probably just get a better ending for getting more recruits.
>>154287117>Cain just being back but he's good now feels a bit half bakedIf they spent less time jaxing off and crying, they could have explored Caine's redemption a lot more. Imagine if he tried to explain himself and how he was consumed by conflicting urges to entertain and punish, or even creating a body for the second AI that forces it to interact with everyone on the same level as normal player. The potential was really wasted because we needed more crying about Jax
>>154287143>They didn't drop shit in MD you media illiterate retard.It's very obvious that the show pivots in a completely different (better) direction after the pilot, because the pilot was poorly received. Liam has said the cosmic horror stuff was originally just going to be backstory.
>>154286931>they cannibalize their ownThey cannibalize each other based on the oppression totem pole. And there are two (three if you count severe disability but curiously people of that sort tend to not participate much in the woke debates/dramas) identities which stand at the very top of the pole: Black and transgender. Any black or transgender person can pull out the black or trans card to instantly silence and discredit any opponent in leftist spaces that isnt black or trans. It doesnt matter if you are a woman, or gay, or asian or poor or whatever, if you get the black or trans card pulled on you in a leftist space, you lose.
Anyone who unironically uses the term "Media Literacy" is already pozzed.
>>154287092Every game isn’t made for you. I don’t even think most games are made for you if you’re this fucking stupid.
>>154287154I didn't think he would do it twice. The fucker only made one game. And by the by, undertale has a perfectly serviceable set of endings on the neutral route. I did on of those and didn't touch the game again. Flowey is a better fight than asriel " glorified cutscene" dreemurr
>>154287159Should have split this into two episodes.
>>154287154>>154287182Toby said Deltarune only has one ending.
>>154287173This is true. But when black vs. trans is pitted against each other, trans wins, every single time. That's why it's so appealing for narcissists to snag the trans label.
>>154287166He said it was going to be more in the background, and he was still going over with Glitch over the "Season 1" thing, thats why. Presumably he figured it would be better to bring the eldritch horror mystery to the forefront immediately and make that the focus since he wanted to do a single season. Nothing was "dropped". The overall plot is the exact same.
Caine owes me a frog gf.
Ribbit sexo
>>154287176Toby is literally the one directly responsible for this. He's the subversive>>154287190I think he lied. Again. He refuses to let you see the last property because he abandoned his original ending
>>154287159>Imagine if he tried to explain himselfHe literally did.
>>154287174it’s definitely applicable here
>>154287124Why should the characters care more about the technical workings of the system or how the system is maintained, than each other?Why should we care more about the technicalities of the show than the characters, when it's been all about the characters from day one?Characters > Lore
Honestly, the show needed a couple more adventures to really get attached to the characters. As things stand we get to episode 8 and we still know jackshit about the characters beyond very superficial things.
>>154287190I am pretty sure that is him being cute about ending variations all wrapping up with ultimately the same conclusion or something. It is kind of hard to imagine the weird route and main route wrapping up in exactly the same way.
>>154287214>Aieee Toby made me spend $20 on Tumblr:The Game and I don’t like it oh noooooAre you mentally retarded?
>>154287173Blacks can't. You get called an uncle tom, and you "lose your black card".
>>154287201It wasn't confirmed to be a miniseries until just before the finale aired. People on /co/ were still talking about season 2 after the penultimate episode. Doesn't mean they hadn't already changed their plans, but I doubt they'd done it as soon as episode 2, which is when the shift in the story happens.>The overall plot is the exact sameI don't see how that could be the case. The Absolute Solver is central to the story we got. If it was originally in the background, the story would have been completely different.
>>154287236My personal theory is that the world ends no matter what you do so which route you pick doesn't matter.
>>154287156Are there any players who played the game on their own terms without getting all the recruits?
>>154287214No, Toby is just a symptom of the disease. The person to blame is Andrew Hussie. Homestuck is what set Toby and the rest of that faggot tumblr army down this path.
>>154287198I dont know about that one, leftist people in general are deathly afraid of running afoul of the black crowd.
>>154287249Dude, Cyn is name dropped on the Pilot. The Absolute Solver is namedropped in the pilot. The Solver symbol shows up multiple times. Uzi subconciously uses the Solver to deflect one of J's bullets before it's fully awakened. The Solver activates in Uzi's eye at the very end.
>>154287242Being an "uncle tom" just makes me feel like the only reasonable nigga in my family to be honest
>>154287239Aiiii Toby made the game that was called the best thing since sliced bread and you do very little to actually progress it and that does make me very madChapter 4 was the last straw
>>154287187Needed several more episodes, really. One to deal with the aftermath of Caine deletion and to explore more C&A shit. Jax gets his own, 30 minute episode. Caine's reappearance and redemption, and the redevelopment of the circus as a final, 60 minute episode.>>154287218He just said he knows they shouldn't trust him after what he's done, and that he's handing control over to the cast, and that what he did wasn't right. He didn't say shit about the 2nd AI or the uncontrollable emotional outbursts. Zooble's answer for the group was just saying it will take some time to forgive him, but also that it's good to have him back, which is a severely out of character thing for any of them to say.
>>154286464I agree, I felt Jax's arc was pretty therapeutic, too bad modern fandoms can't handle subtlety
>>154286459Fuck, I love the song, it's serene.
>>154287275>The person to blame is Andrew Hussie. Homestuck is what set Toby and the rest of that faggot tumblr army down this path.I dont know anon last time i checked undertale and deltarune did not the the same fucking problems homestuck did.
>>154287227Kind of wild how we never really even got to know Jax despite it becoming the Jax show since they wanted all of his non-bully shit to be a twist right at the end.Somehow Gangle and Ragatha wound up feeling the most fleshed out in terms of personality by the end despite how relatively little we see of them. Pomni in particular was basically an empty shell for the audience to ride around in.
>>154287242Right, but only other members of your identity can do that. I can only imagine the shitstorm if a black person says something edgy and then a white person calls them an uncle tom.
>>154287297>He just said he knows they shouldn't trust him after what he's doneA lot of it was stuff he said to himself when he was alone. I think we can assume he told them about how he was just trying to fulfill his purpose, how he lost sight of what makes humans special, etc. off-screen so that we wouldn't have to hear the same monologue twice.
>>154287290> called the best thing since sliced bread Maybe you should pay more attention to who is saying the things that so easily influence you. None of them were playing it like you
>>154286546The impression I got from the entire show isn't that he couldn't do it, it's that he didn't care to even try.
>>154287305Yeah, Pomni spends the majority of her screentime either silently listening to someone else or looking sad. Which I guess are character defining but she is mostly just someone who gets things said to and is generally just passive.
>>154287319I can assume that most people who bought a game to beat it
>>154287318Considering how the entire wrap up of the show happens in a dialog-free montage, it's impossible to really know what was said, just that they wanted us to understand that they did forgive him and they all lived happily ever after.
>>154286464I've been wanting to talk about especially the last one, but shits been too messy to bother>>154287300I agree. Been awhile since I've thought about some stuff
>>154287286Obviously the Solver was still there, but it was going to be "background." Do you not think it's possible that the pilot was being completely serious in setting up Uzi wiping out humanity?
>>154287342You are cripplingly retarded
>>154287352Well, we already got the character development. There's no point in repeating the speech we already heard.
>>154287286You've never watched a show where the writers namedrop stuff and then figure out/make up shit later on? Murder Drones can't even retain tone or genre for the first half of its entire run and you're acting like Liam painstakingly planned and intended the show to play out exactly the way it did, even though he openly admitted he changed plans and ideas during production.
>>154287363Do people not get games to beat them? Do people not get movies to watch all of that movie?
>>154287306It was online, but I've had multiple white people call me a nigger in larger discussions. They knew I was black just to point that out. Honestly it was pretty funny seeing no reaction but all of those likes
>>154287277Maybe it's just on the internet. IRL, things fall back to the status quo. For example, look at the Democratic National Committee meeting where they spent hours quibbling about pronouns and privileges only to elect two white guys by the end of it all. Money (and votes) talks; bullshit walks. Eventually it all comes down to, "Who can win?"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9y2oMhPfz1Y
>>154286519>Even his supposed most "evil" thing was just demanding Ribbit stop talking to him and Ribbit deciding to suicide over it instead of just talking to literally anyone elseRibbit literally couldn't talk to anyone else about the real problem because she was still keeping Jax's secret that he held over her head while also gaslighting others. Ribbit still kept the secret and Jax still was completely shitty about the whole thing instead of squashing the beef, thus making ribbit feeling horrible about herself even though she's valuing the promise. Jaxfags really watch the show disingenuously.
Can we focus on the fact that Caine literally just showed up at the circus? I thought it would be incredibly difficult for him to arrive in one piece, but no, he came as if nothing was wrong.
>>154287387>watch episodes 1-4 of a 6-episode TV show>WTF WHERE'S THE ENDING
>>154287367Again, if the episode didn't waste so much time trying to convince us that Jax was a SUPER DEEP AND TRAGIC character, we probably could have had that scene happen in the presence of other characters so they could understand what happened more naturally instead of having to assume it was just explained later. I don't doubt that a more chill Caine could endear himself to the rest of the cast without his power tripping manic episodes, but I'd rather have seen that than had it implied to me, because it's such a huge fucking deal to the entire show, but the finale didn't treat it like one.
>>154287387Gonna level with you man I have very little idea what you are even complaining about. Is it that it is a linear JRPG style game? That it is episodic? That you aren't necessarily encouraged to murder all of the enemies?
>>154287387No, actually. People don’t buy UTDR to beat them. You assumed wrong. Toby isn’t at fault for your poor buying habits.
>>154286810people didnt realize how bad trump would be at that time, so it makes more sense then.
>>154287414jaxfags hate ribbit more than jax himself, jax can admit to himself he did something really shitty there, which is why he eventually abstractsthe flashback situation was fucked
>>154287423Well, Jax was tragic, in the classical sense. He destroyed the people he cared most about, and then himself. He did this because of a fatal flaw in his personality (fear of vulnerability).It's like Hamlet but with a cartoon rabbit.
>>154287396Maybe its more of a new phenomenon, I have noticed that younger leftist people tend to be more of the mentality that anything goes in order to advance leftist causes, including things which in principle run contrary to those causes. I have had arguments with leftists about the hypocrisy of 'victimblaming is bad' but if conservative woman is raped then its her fault and no sympathy whatsoever. For younger leftists it seems that the cause only extends to people to like minded people.
>>154287440In hindsight, it's quite funny to remember all the people going>See? SEE?! Trump can't be a nazi! The jews love him! Why would all the jews give him awards and talk about how great he was if he was an actual genocidal nazi, HUH?!And then all that jew love came back and fucked over everyone, didn't it?
>>154286626>Goose said he was annoying that Pomni would’ve hated him.doesn't track, no matter how annoying you are, pomni won't hate you
>>154287302They both had invasive pests of communities. They both spam their stupid shit everywhere and try to force it down everyone's throats, saying that their thing is pinnacle of Western Civilization.They both sport staggering numbers of faggot homo gayfords that produce endless amounts of deviantart diarrhea.Remember when MatPat gave a copy of Undertale to the pope? Remember the people who compared Homestuck to James Joyce's Ulysses?I'd love to live in a world where both Hussie and Fox died of SIDS.
>>154287409>Eventually it all comes down to, "Who can win?"I think if it really comes down to that, they wouldnt have let Kamala run for president.
>>154286519>Childish pranksHe threw ragatha into a deep fryerHe alienated his best friend until she died of sadness.He tortured the rest of the cast, same as Cain but without the excuse of being an inhuman, artificial program.He's had so many ropes thrown down the hole he's in to help him out and he wrapped them around his neck instead.Yeah he has his own demons but they didn't justify how far he went.He started as a victim but became a monster long before abstracting.
>>154287459Political extremists usually come in two categories: people who are committed to the ideology and people who are committed to the cause. The latter tends to be more pragmatic because they have no principles (or morals), which allows them to win out over the former in internal power struggles.
why are we talking about politics in the circus thread
>>154287428Episodic with skippable chapters that's the problem. Make the chapters unskippable and the problem disappears.
>>154287478>Remember the people who compared Homestuck to James Joyce's Ulysses?it's absolutely comparable in length, which was the point of the original comparison
>>154287297There was a literal fade, dumbass. He explained himself and acknowledged it would take time, you don’t need every little thing spelled out
>>154287479That was the plan. They wanted to have an open primary, but in his last moments of lucence, Joe, knowing he'd been betrayed, gave Kamala the bid.
>>154287501I was gone for a few hours. Is that one of the reasons these threads are bumping so fast? Off topic shit?
>>154287459It is a newer thing, but older folks are 100% adopting it just as much. Most of the ones I know that act like that are people around my mom's age or older. The ones that called me an uncle tom and the various ones including my grandma that called me a nigger. And not like how I say the word a lot because it is funny. She was genuinely trying to hurt my feelings. I just laughed at her, but that isn't what she wanted
>>154287458I think they wanted him to be tragic, but the writers didn't actually know how to commit to that beyond poorly implying that he's got gender-y feelings of some kind that he self-loathes over due to basic-bitch parental insecurities. It's less of a tragedy because of how it played it, and more of a tragedy because the writers wanted it to be one. They just didn't actually execute one as much as they stumbled through one in a way that could have been avoided if literally anyone besides Ribbit was able to be involved in the Whump fanfic they were writing about Jax. Even Kaufmo's abstraction was just kind of a thing that happened seemingly only because Jax said "lol okay CRAZY"
>>154287510None of the chapters are skippable.
>>154287420yeah, what the fuck was the point in deleting him? Are you telling me he just went to the recycling box or something?
>>154287527You can literally go straight to chapter 4 the moment the moment you get the game
>>154287515>you don’t need every little thing spelled outCaine redeeming himself and gaining the trust of the people he abused for decades is the exact kind of thing that shouldn't be implied between scenes and through a voiceless montage.
>>154287512It's a webcomic. Penny Arcade went on for 27 years and must have an impressive wordcount too. The homosuck fans just used the "lol they're both long" bit as an excuse to compare the two in terms of literary merit. They hide their sincerity behind "jokes" and "irony".
>>154287521I didn't pick up on any gender shit when I was watching the episode. I think he fits the classical archetype of a tragic hero because he fucking obliterated himself and everyone he cared about and the the blame for this ultimately rests with him. He pushed his two closest friends to suicide just because he was afraid of having friends, and then he let the guilt consume him until he eventually did the same to himself. That's a textbook tragedy.
>>154287500Sure but I think back in 2016 things like calling political opponents retards would have caused a furor among leftist spaces but now there seems to be no issue with calling Fetterman a retard for example.Honestly, I think the only reason why young white leftists dont call people like Clarence Thomas a nigger is more because they fear the uproar in the black community more than they think calling any black person a nigger is bad.
>>154287532You can do that with every book and tv show too
>>154287082>loving yourself is narcissistic said the autistic incel
>>154287532You can also download a completed save file of any game.
>>154287470Don't you ever get exhausted acting this all the time
>>154287558Yeah but you aren't playing those. A game, is supposed to be interactive. There's not much interaction if the games big story parts just happen to you and you don't do much to make the adventure progress
>>154287549penny arcade comparing to homestuck?
>>154287036It was literally premiered as one 2 weeks before by combining it with episode 8, retard
>>154287532>I don’t have the self control to not press the skip buttonEntirely your fault
>>154287520>including my grandmaI honestly cant even visualize the idea of my grandmother calling me a slur. What the fuck? Did you say that slavery is good and black people are better off as slaves?
>>154287549Penny Arcade isn't a story, it's a comic strip. Homestuck was legendary in length, as a single continuous story, and it achieved that in a relatively short period of time (it was already massive just 2 or 3 years after starting)."Ulysses of the Internet" was always just a comment on its length. No one on this board has even read Ulysses.
>>154287574I say we nuke israel and then we nuke palestine.
>>154287581you must really hate FF7 too
>>154287587I want to get the shelter codes and feel like I, me, am making progress in the rpg game, the genre designed around making gradual progress through gameplay
>>154287227>>154287305>show tries to make a point by demonstrating that the characters aren't just characters but human beings that are more than their surface level, whacky appearance>gives no real time for the audience to learn and meaningfully grow attached to said characters because being sad = being a human>the audience just has to like 70% of the cast for their superficial, surface level traits>two of the characters that get the most devlopment and screen time aren't even the main character/protagI guess we do learn things passively, but each character really should have had like 2 or 3 episodes dedicated to them where they get to shine/give the audience a chance to peer beyond the surface. Gangle and Zooble may as well just be cardbard cutouts that emote every 5 minutes cause despite knowing things about them, they don't really attempt to make them actually likeable or interesting characters. There's no moment where I can go back and watch a Zooble or Gangle interaction and realise there's some crazy hidden double meaning or fun quirk I hadn't yet picked up on that was always present.Zooble is always just a moody cunt that thinks she's above everyone else while suffering from her identity crisis, and Gangle is just a jaded, low self esteem artist that's easy to pick on. This literally doesn't change at all since we first meet them, and no matter how many scenes they get, all it does is reaffirm that they are indeed these caricatures that are settled on. Jax is a dickhead but you can't even fully say he's wrong with how he viewed everyone.
>>154286617Just like the real universe we live in.
>>154287586kill yourself nigger
>>154287614I actually don't like that game at all. But thats for other reasons. I think ff9 is better
>>154287553>I didn't pick up on any gender shit when I was watching the episode.Other than the maid thing, I don't really see it either. I still wouldn't call him a tragic "hero" though. He's not the hero. He's not even the main character. Where I personally felt his whole story fell short is that his drama is that Dad, absent from his life, wasn't proud of him, and Mom was kind of a cunt who laughed at him, then hugged him. Then he thought he killed her, but didn't check, because reasons. That's it. His mommy and daddy issues don't genuinely explain his behavior. He didn't really have some profound, fucked up traumatizing events in his life that explain how he could make friends in a surreal situation, but then develop a miles-wide psychotic streak because he's insecure about someone who was never ever mean to him trying to privately connect with him.And then Kaufmo was just there. Kaufmo didn't do shit. He drank hot chocolate and then went insane because Jax called him crazy.
>>154287592Your grandma never called anyone a nigger?
>>154287639I played both recently and I think FF9 has some issues with the last act that drag it down compared to 7.8 is my favorite of the three.
>>154287356>>154287379Why are you just making shit up and trying to pass off your speculations as the truth? You're literally complaining about things you're just making up through conjecture.The initial point was trying to claim Murder Drones "drops" things when it straight up doesn't. The Pilot setup of humans sending the murder drones was ALWAYS going to be a lie, proved by the presence of the Absolute Solver in the pilot you fucking idiot. Uzi even questions N's mission early into said Pilot. Not to mention MD also recycles concepts from Internecion Cube, so we know the "the murder bots aren't actually human made but made by an eldritch monster" thing was always planned. Same with the humans already being dead on the other exoplanets and Earth. It was always going to be that way, Liam just changed the show's INITIAL focus from Uzi and N fucking around and Khan being an antaginist to going straight to the eldritch god shit. Retard.
>>154287648The term she used was negroid
>>154287581I am sorry but are you just now hearing about the concept of a linear video game?Most of them are like that you know?
>>154287658My mistake.
>>154287642>His mommy and daddy issues don't genuinely explain his behavior.Well, yeah. He had a shitty upbringing but the responsibility for his behavior ultimately rests with him. He chose to act that way. We see why he's insecure, why he fears vulnerability, and we see how that led to him destroying himself and everyone he cares about. That's all we needed to see.
>>154287653>It was always going to be that waysource?
>>154287621The main issue with Zooble is that she spends 80% of the show with the whole 'whats up with the whole parts thing?' mystery as the main direction of her character and it doesnt really factor into the finale or anything else. The finale is just Pomni, Jax and Caine and every other character is sort of there. And Pomni is mostly just reacting to others.
>>154287662Most games come out finished so you can actually get your mcguffins in a reasonable amount if time(not four years)Or, they let you make progress by , get this, gaining experience
>>154287648She may have, but not to me which is the thing I find difficulty even imagining.
>>154287695>it doesnt really factor into the finale or anything elseShe used her arms to corral Abstracted-Jax into the tent. It was small, but it was something.
>>154287675What I mean is that the reasons given do not explain how Jax could engage in psychotic behavior that drives him into panic attacks and constant near-abstraction for years. He hates himself and the way he acts, but he can't stop, but every time he acts that way, he has to run off to tremble and freak out and have a little melty, before he walks back to the group and does it all over again.It's an attempt at "realistic" or "understandable" mental health issues that doesn't actually pan out because that's not how it fucking works. Especially not in digital purgatory where characters abstracted for far less.
>>154287703are you on the spectrum?
>>154287592Nah. Honestly it is usually the few times I actually agree with her on something, but I think she is too retarded or too radical to understand that. I'm black and I did mindless support my tribe? I'm bad. She once called me a 'house nigger' because I showed her the videos of the Rittenhouse shit. She brought it up to me by the way. I didn't even voice my opinion. Just questioned where she got her info from
>>154287621I will argue that Gangle got some clever characterization when episode four showed how she acts when in a position of power and how she realized that she was never truly happy even outside of the circus but outside of that she was just the meek one and then later on one half of the background yuri gang.>>154287695Still pissed that there never did much with the obvious body horror angle they had for Zooble.
>>154287703The way I see it, a games progress should be done through its gameplay and not some arbitrary part of the story that you had nothing to do with after multiple years of waiting>>154287722Yes, you should see my dad around football he can be worse
>>154287744>Still pissed that there never did much with the obvious body horror angle they had for Zooble.someone must have told goose to tone down the obvious fetish stuff
>>154287703>they let you make progress by , get this, gaining experienceI mean you get better equipment for doing things like beating the secret bosses. Sounds like making progress to me.
>>154287744Gangle's mask motif made sense for her character, but the ribbon thing never really amounted to any sort of character-revealing detail, did it?
>>154287745You should probably stick exclusively to Minecraft and Factorio because I can't imagine you'd enjoy any linear story-driven game.
>>154286244Based
>>154287714>It's an attempt at "realistic" or "understandable" mental health issues that doesn't actually pan out because that's not how it fucking worksI don't know, there are a lot of pretty self destructive people like that; people who are fully cognisant of what is wrong with them or that what they're doing is wrong but they just can't help themselves because some part of them mentally keeps driving them to impulsively act in a certain way. I'm pretty similar honestly since I have an absurdly strong conviction that I only deserve the worst and nothing good should ever happen to me and if something good does happen then I don't deserve it, to the point I've purposefully tried to make my life worse to justify this self belief.That being said I still think that angle doesn't really work with Jax, especially since he basically directly 'murdered' two people by causing them to abstract, said two people being his closest friends. It's just such a switch up that it really comes off as Jax being a psycho that never really actually liked his friends, which is counter to the whole part of his character they tried to set up. Even if the mental illness angle was played better, all this really says is that if you associate with the mentally ill, you might get dragged down with them, and that some people aren't worth saving or trying to help. It's not really a super nice message, especially for someone that was as absolutely unbearable to have shoved in your face constantly.
>>154287143>Holy fuck TADC fags are retarded.This has been known for a while, and it's still being proven by them defending the shitty end of TADCLack of media literacy and tranny brainrot will do that to you, only CHARACTER THERAPY matters not paying attention to the mystery or plot
>>154287767I don't think most of the avatars really meant all that much to the characters they were attached to outside of their gimmicks. Even then it was mostly just Gangle and Zooble.
>>154287860I hope you break out of that one day anon, I'm sort of similar and it's incredibly difficult
>>154287595>No one on this board has even read Ulysses.I did.
Not that I expect anyone to take me seriously here, but this entire thread reminds me of a story my English teacher told me when I was in my early teens. She said that during a lecture in uni, the proff was talking about a poem, and asking the students about what the poem meant, what the meaning of it was. Long story short, after the students had a chance to debate and talk about their own thoughts about the poem: the author walked in, he was listening the entire time.His words were "I had no fucking idea that's what my poem meant."
>>154287866>accuse others of having poor media literacy when you thought the character-focused black comedy was going to be a JJ Abrams mystery boxLOL
>>154287903In an english class in highschoolWatching "look both ways" which is a movie about two people who witness a suicide, a woman who fantasizes about suicide constantly, and a man who just got diagnosed with cancer.There are a lot of shots of birds. The teacher insisted the birds represented the character's desire for freedom.We watched the directors commentary, they point out the birds, the birds were just there and they thought it looked cool
>>154287939but it was a mystery box
>>154287860NTA you are conversating with, but I get that. I wish my best friends would go away. Not because I don't care about them, but because I don't deserve anything. I should have died. But I can't kill myself because it'll hurt them. Not that I like the idea of doing that. It would be nicer to die 'naturally'. I've been feeling horrible after watching it in theaters with my oldest best bud. I wanted to talk about it, but I can't bring myself because its unfair to put that on them
>>154287976No it wasn't. It was advertised as a comedic psychological horror. Every episode was focused on how the characters felt.
>>154287939Just because you rugpull in the last couple of episodes on your mystery box elements and never deliver that doesn't mean that it wasn't a mystery box.
>>154287939I never said that, I was commenting on the fact that TADC implied things very early on but then obviously just never did anything wider in terms of plot. Instead things just happen and the show is about the character's inter-personal therapy. My post was a comment on media illiterate morons then also looking at Murder Drones which IS a mystery plot show that does a lot of show don't tell and saying stupid shit while not understanding anything
>>154288008the writing was 100% mysterybox vague bullshit >scratch, the first abstraction!never mentioned again
>>154287531Data literally remains on a drive until it's overwritten. I don't get how you retards think TWO super advanced cartoon AIs can't undelete themselves
>>154288054>but then obviously just never did anything wider in terms of plot.Because it's a character-driven show, not a plot-driven show. The Gummigoo incident should have made that clear. The important part of that was Pomni's reaction to it. How did this fly over your head? >>154288062Did you watch the finale?
>>154288087you're telling me the programmer (Kinger) wouldn't have been aware of this? and if he was, why didn't he mention it?
>>154287888Thanks anon. Hopefully Ragatha ass can be our salvation>>154287993Obviously should practice what I preach but love and reach out to your friends, and let them make you feel stupid for thinking you deserve anything less
>>154288062What's to explain? He fucked with tumor-brain so much out of curiosity that he was the first to go. The answer is in the statement
>>154288113Not that guy but they absolutely didn't do a damned thing with the first abstraction line despite making it sound like a huge deal.Scratch got a blink and you miss it flashback cameo.
>>154288173The first thing that happens is that he loses his pc>hurr imagine onewhy would he need one that was already in the cricus then?
>>154288201>they absolutely didn't do a damned thing with the first abstraction lineIt is literally self-explanatory.Caine says that he can't mess with their minds too much or "it will not end well." Then Kinger remembers Scratch. The conclusion is that Caine fucked with Scratch's mind and he abstracted as a direct result.It's not even subtextual. It's just following an implication.
>>154288113My point is that it shouldn't SET THINGS UP to NEVER DO ANYTHING with zero indication for why. Holy fuck are TADC fags just delusional? Do you just excuse everything under it being a character fee-fees show?
>>154288234 Everything has a pay-off. The headsets are brain scanners. Scratch abstracted because Caine fucked with his mind. They can't leave the Circus because they are just computer programs.The only unresolved mystery is how Caine avoided dying.
>>154288229I get that but the way the show framed it was classic mystery box Lost style shit. A zoom in and a dramatic reveal of an important sounding character and event brought up during a shocking scene at the end of an episode.If it was brought up in a normal conversation in a less dramatic way nobody would be complaining.
>>154288299I was way behind on the series and watched episodes 6-9 all in one go today. By the time I got to episode 9 I had actually forgotten this line. It doesn't feel to me like it's setting up a mystery. It feels like it's a little bit of worldbuilding, and some insight into Caine's character.What it reveals is two things: first, that Caine CAN fuck with their minds, and chooses not to because the last time he did it he caused an abstraction; and second, that Caine is really ashamed that he directly caused Scratch to abstract and tries to avoid thinking about it.
>>154288182I am there when they reach out. I talk to them when they talk to me and even try to interact with them whenever I can. I just can't shake this feeling I had as a kid that I should be dead. And the world would be better without me. And that isn't fair to the people around me. It just takes for me to lose my cool long enough to hurt them because I get what I want with my own hands. It isn't fair they have to worry about that, but I can't make promises. Not with where I'm at. It would be nice if we could practice what we preach. I tell people similar stuff. I tell people that suicide isn't the way. Granted from my perspective people like me are rare. Most get to this point because of things being rough. They don't actually want to go. So I implore them not to
So none of the digital circus was real and they all survived putting on that headset?
>>154288381Yeah, but it being not-real doesn't mean it isn't real. That's the point of the show.
>>154288395That's gay
>>154288411One must imagine Pomni happy.
>>154288341you are entirely correct and he is grasping at straws
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>>154286765>formerly xAt the rate Elon is gaining money it's more likely that in the future you'll be posting on xeddit and watching the latest Glitch show on youx.
