>yeah so um they're still stuck in virtual hell and their close friends are all horrible monsters stuck in perpetual bodily agony but it's ok because they've just taken complete comfort in total helplessness and accepted that the real versions of themselves are living it large all while using the power of friendship and hugs to "fix" everythingIt's like ending of SOMA but I'm supposed to feel good for Simon's clone being trapped in the ocean.0/10
>he can't appreciate bittersweetfiltered
sometimes life doesn't go our way anon, and that's fine.
I HAVE A MOUTH AND I MUST CRYmay the ghost of harlan ellison haunt the tranny
>>154287958>missed how this is an analogy for dealing with real lifeBrainlet. Retard. Nigger.
>>154287958>It's like ending of SOMA but I'm supposed to feel good for Simon's clone being trapped in the ocean.Because being trapped in a satellite that has no means of sustaining itself when it's power starts to run dry and it's brain scans have no means of doing anything is sooooooooooooo much better.
>>154287998>>154288058Goose just ripped off the ending of SOMA. Like, almost to a T. He just swapped the dread with joy.
>>154288090You're right, being trapped thousands of meters in the ocean and the darkness for all of entirety is better. Simon 4 on the ARK doesn't even know what happened, he just knows he's out of the ocean and with Cathy.It's literally the fucking same ending but instead of screaming externally, Pomni and the crew is probably internally realizing "This is it, this is Hell."
>>154287958I'm convinced gooseworx literally never stopped to consider how horrifying this ending is. He put zero thought into any of his writing. That's why it's full of plot holes and contrivances. Shit sucked.
>>154287958Theu never answered how they got their brains scanned in the first place.
>>154287958The most frustrating part of the ending is that it leaves just about every major question completely unanswered. Yes, the emotional impact of it hits hard, you feel bad for Jax, the relationship between him and Pomni comes to a head and pays off, but LITERALLY EVERYTHING ELSE is completely forgotten.
>>154288223I know right, it's like they jumped over why they even did all of this shit
It should have been more grim, that happy ending vibe they went with doesn't feel sincere to me.
>>1542882329 episodes is nowhere near enough ti explore everything. Should have been at least 12.
>>154288232>every major questionLike what?
>>154288223>Every character that we've seen enter the circus initially tries to remove a headset that they found and put on>But...but how did their brains get scanned?Do you have a dent in your head?
Sometimes you just have to accept your situation and live with it, do your best
When the pilot episode ended with that shot of the abandoned computer sitting on that desk, I really thought the ending of the show was going to involve more real-world settings. I wanted them to explain WHAT the Digital Circus is. Why is this computer running? Who set it up? Is this a simulation? etc.Instead, it feels like the show never went anywhere and we STILL don't know WHY they are essentially humans being cloned into the virtual realm. Who is behind it? Why?None of this is answered.
I keep hearing the SOMA ending so here's the link to that. Yeah, it's pretty close to it. Gooseworx just put all of it in a major key.https://youtu.be/x790AjID0FA?si=437EWf1FYcELSfdV&t=146
>>154288104No one cares faggot
>>154288295Proof that loreniggers don't actually watch the shows they claim to be fans of.
>>154288308I car.
>we didn't get to know who changes the batmobile tires, and this is bad
>>154288232i dont feel bad for jax because hes an asshole and all his problems are self-imposed from being a cunt all the time for no reason. i hate this ending too because they like stole their fucking lives on the outside and you're gonna tell me they all became possessed by corporate whore normies LARPing their lives for them? and if they're not the originals then what was the point of any of this trying to escape bullshit?
>>154288295The implication is that Scratch is behind it all, you know, when Kinger said that Scratch was both dying of a tumor and incredibly interested in developing their AI. I'm sorry this wasn't explicitly explained to you?
>>154287958It reminds me more of Lost because ot made everyone mad
>>154287958>>yeah so um they're still stuck in virtual hellHell is a bit extreme outside the time Caine was being an asshole, and they made effective change to make it better.>and their close friends are all horrible monsters stuck in perpetual bodily agony Not all problems can be solved. We live in a world were if someone gets brain damage, that's it, and you just have to live with it. The abstracted remaining abstracted is significantly better than some shitty cop-out where they save them.>but it's ok because they've just taken complete comfort in total helplessnessThey haven't? They embraced their potential and restored the circus before Caine came back. It wasn't comfort in helplessness, it was comfort in each other.>and accepted that the real versions of themselves are living it large all while using the power of friendship and hugs to "fix" everythingHugs are good for you. Also, what are they supposed to do other than accept they are separate from their real world counterparts?>>154288295Did you even watch the show? Literally all of that is answered.
>>154288340>The implication is that Scratch is behind it all, you know, when Kinger said that Scratch was both dying of a tumor and incredibly interested in developing their AI. I'm sorry this wasn't explicitly explained to you?None of this explained in the show without having to read the wiki.>>154288353>Did you even watch the show? Literally all of that is answered.None of it is answered.
>>154287958The whole final episode was just an hour crying, self reflection, and I wanna say "melodrama" but that would imply there was any real conflict. It's basically the "realistic depiction of a panic attack" shit stretched out to a full episode.And yeah, I get it, it's basically to wrap up everything. But people paid money to see this in THEATERS. If it was gonna be good enough for theaters, I expected like, the characters going through some crazy mind-fucking adventure through the crumbling circus and then there's a super duper big revelation at the end that completely changes everything and makes your head explode from the Shakespearian level writing..Hell, they even revealed the big twist in the first few minutes.
>>154288353More like The Amazing Digital Hugbox, felt like I was watching a Barney episode lmao>Not all problems can be solved. We live in a world were if someone gets brain dam-
>>154288283Sure, but I don't sugarcoat it.You can cope, but don't gaslight yourself into thinking your situation isn't bad.You got fired, you might become homeless, you ran out of food.In situations like these, you are forced to look for solutions, not sit on a burning building pretending everything is going to be okay.
>>154287958I feel like there are a lot of people who went into this show expecting them to escape, for there to be this deep lore that changes everything, like the guy above me said, and when that didn't happen, they call it terrible writing.I'm not going to say that their opinion is wrong, but I will say that maybe you're not engaging with the show like it's intended
>>154287958The worst part is that there's no true death. You can only abstract, you cannot cease to exist.
>>154287958>God Awful Fucking EndingGod awful fucking pilot, so it all checks out to a God awful fucking series. No refunds.
>>154288454It is terrible writing. Having a sad ending to essentially twist everyone's expectation is the lamest shit ever and nobody sees it as clever.An ending where they all get out and meet again in real life would have been 1000 times better.
>>154288454I feel more like there's this weird hang-up on them not being 'real.' Like the characters are lesser because they're just copies of real people and therefore nothing that happened to them mattered.Which is strange, considering that, for all intents and purposes, they ARE real people. They just live in a computer.
>>154288481>It is terrible writingAnd it always was, why were you following the series again?
The Quirky Digital Trannies
>>154288454It's terrible writing. Viewers were given the expectation of the characters eventually escaping. The whole show was centered around this mystery of what the Circus is and whether there is an escape (with an escape hinted at multiple times, but always out of reach...). Naturally, if you follow a narrative like this, the characters will eventually find their escape. They achieve it and uncover the mystery of the Circus.But instead, we got whatever this ending is. It doesn't follow a logical narrative.
You really thought Cooper Goodwin could deliver on a good episode? He just wanted your ad revenue to further fuel the castration cult
>>154288464You'd cease to exist if the computer got turned off.
The entire series summounted to Jax and the other trannies just whining and whining and whining and crying about their FEELINGS
>>154288531>I made up a scenario in my head that didn't play out, everyone else is wrong
>>154288547If you set up all expectations for that scenario (i.e. a narrative) but don't deliver on it, then yes, that is bad writing. You can stop coping now.
>>154288481>>154288531>twist everyone's expectationsSee, this is what I mean when I say that you're not engaging with the story as it is. You've built up this idea that it's supposed to be this epic adventure to uncover the secret lore behind the Circus and escape the simulation and return to a normal life.But that's not what it is. The ending isn't a twist, it's the logical conclusion to the idea of 'we need to learn to live in the Circus. We need to learn to one another.' The show even MOCKS the idea of escaping, there's an entire episode about it. The majority of the show is about the characters learning to work together and understand each other. You've just decided that it's not about that, and have gotten mad that it's not about that.
>>154288546You know what the worst part is? They thought that was good enough to hype up and put in movie theaters. I feel second hand embarrassment for the parents that brought their kids there assuming this was a wacky zaney kids movie their kids enjoyed on the youtubez (I mean you can't blame them for thinking that).
>>154288546If I were surrounded by a bunch of nagging feminist women and men who think they’re women i’d go insane too. Now imagine being one of them surrounded by others of your kind
>>154288547>average /co/ criticism Nobody here knows how to evaluate something on it's own merits instead of comparing against some super duper awesome imaginary version they made up in their heads.
>>154288574See >>154288559. Stop typing, you just look silly. No one agrees that this ending is good.
>>154288366>None of it is answered.Sigh.>I wanted them to explain WHAT the Digital Circus is. It's a program running on a computer, made by an AI,who imported brainscans from real people to act as "players." >Why is this computer running? This is the only explicitly unanswered question.>Who set it up? Caine did.>Is this a simulation?Yes.>we STILL don't know WHY they are essentially humans being cloned into the virtual realm. Yes, we do.>Who is behind it? Scratch.>Why?Because he was dying from a brain tumor, so he made a program to made a digital duplicate. He was trying to achieve digital immortality, but couldn't figure out how to use the resulting files. Caine, the AI created by Scratch and Kinger, did figure out how to use them, and used them to populate the circus.>None of this explained in the show without having to read the wiki.Maybe if you're retarded or otherwise mentally impaired. Kinger talks about creating Caine and Scratch's brain tumor in no uncertain terms, we see a flashback of Caine using Scratch's brainscan to generate his avatar, and he even explicitly confirms the players are scans and not the real people, we are shown him creating the circus, ect.If you have to rely on a wiki to figure this out, that's a skill issue on your part.
Is it weird that I somehow got IMMENSE satisfaction for some reason from watching the cute frog girl get bullied hard over and over again.
>>154288593>sighthis nigga just typed sigh like he was forced to type out this post that I'm not going to read LOL
>>154287958>Amazing AI has Feelings show
>>154288574goose could have written a good story with a good ending, but instead he chose to tease a good story and then subvert everyone's expectations by writing the biggest pile of shit ever. Genius.
But who was the dog character?
>>154288607>I'm not going to readI don't expect niggers to read
>>154288634this anon asking the real questionsi think it might be you/us, the audience
>>154288634If you're a mega autist like this guy >>154288593, apparently you should know. But if you're normal like the rest of us, then the show doesn't really explain who the fuck he is.
>>154288581Not exactly much to talk about with them once it’s over, lol. Usually you’d talk about the cool action scenes with your kids. Here you could only talk about the 20 minute POV scene of the rabbit having realistic arguments and panic attacks with the trans frog
>>154288632>[Cooper Goodwin] could have written a good story with a good endingYeah, if he never joined the cult and never started its pseudo-medical castration-as-transmogrification ritual.
>>154288481get samus-ed and metroid-ed
>>154288606Frog ENBIE. Their pronouns are She/They
>>154287958it was an excellent show
>>154288667yeahAny question of "what was your favorite scene" would be answered 80% of the time with "I liked the looney tunes reference."Cuz that was the only interesting moment that wasn't just cryyyyyyiiiing.Honestly, I bet kids were bored by this movie.
>>154288653>then the show doesn't really explain who the fuck he is.
>>154287958The real world counterparts part was completely pointless if the main theme was to accept your reality and make the most of it, but I guess they had to pad the story with something to make it 1-hour long; specially since Goose really didnt think through how or why people keep getting stuck in the circus, everything felt half-baked. The french had a nice ass at least.
>>154288606yes people like jax that are inherently assholes seeking to cause malcontent are not good>>154288497the issue is it basically nullifies 90% of the development we've been following of these having supposedly been real people trapped in the digitized world searching for an escape. like it ruins the immersion factor if they're not real people, and if they are then having some impostor on the outside LARP as a happy normie version of you does sound really unsatisfying and hellish
>>154288744normies really resonated with it though
>>154288697Where?
>>154287958This show has an incredibly boring ending and it doesn't explain how new people keep getting scanned and added to the circus. If this program is apparently running on an abandoned computer, then how do new people keep getting added into it?
>>154288781It's on youtube
isn't she looooovellllly
>>154288790I know, I watched half the pilot and found it annoying and tedious. What series are (You) talking about?
>>154288090>when it's power starts to run dry Funny you mention that because how the fuck is the circus is still running!?No seriously, fucking how? Is the BrainScans project still going on? How all these nobodies got trap in the program? Who is funding this shit? How did Cain got the WiFi pass?
>>154288816>Is the BrainScans project still going on? How all these nobodies got trap in the program? Who is funding this shit? How did Cain got the WiFi pass?We'll never know because Goose is a fucking retard
>>154288816They really tricked you into watching an entire series of just therapy because the (badly voiced, generic, uninteresting) Clowngirl happens to have a cute design
>>154288789We know where ever the computer is that's running the circus, it's not completely abandoned or there wouldn't be power. Urbex often takes people to buildings that are unused rather than completely abandoned, and if Pomni's trot through the C&A offices she generated is any indication, it's not a truly abandoned location. Someone on the outside must have some idea what's going on, and we only have one suspect; Grant Best(Mike is likely dead). How much he knows and why he kept the brainscan headset working is anyone's guess.
>>154288268Ok wise guy, HOW they got access to the visor? WHY were they messing around with this shit in the first place? WHO is picking these random cunts out of the streets?
>>154288593Okay retard. How about you explain these questions then? >>154288789>>154288839Oh you can't, because this show's writing is terrible.
>>154288454this is masterful bait and i hate you for it
They really tricked you into watching an entire series of just therapy because the (badly voiced, generic, uninteresting) Clowngirl happens to have a cute design
>>154288802no and that's another thing why do we get this montage of oh remember all the good times with jax when they were barely ever not an extreme asshole and this finale just made them even worse? >>154288860im not satisfied, therapy is bullshit. the lesson is nothing we do will ever matter because we're trapped in purgatory and even the "real you" is a corporate shill. they should've just escaped and gone back to being sad neets like me
>The Amazing Coversation about Stuff that Happened Off Screen
>>154288816>how the fuck is the circus still running>Who is funding this shitIncompetence in the liquidation of the company. Someone bought the property, gets the power bill, assumes it's for shit the elevators and stuff, and just keeps paying them.>How all these nobodies got trap in the program?Scratch's brain-scanner is still plugged in, and it's triggered by putting it on.>How did Cain got the WiFi passWhy would a free WiFi need a password?
>>154287958Luckily my canon ending is all of the female characters were given bodies in the real world and all married a human man whom they had lots of children with
>>154288890>then how do new people keep getting added into it?The visor performs a brainscan when you put it on.People enter the building, and put the visor on.Pomni and Zooble talk about doing Urbex, and Jax was homeless. Ragatha was probably there in her role as a real estate agent, so the only really questionable one is Gangle. It's entirely possible that whoever is making sure the computer is still on brainscanned her after her accident and loaded her onto the computer.In honesty, most of this in unimportant to the narrative.
>>154288907>this montage of oh remember all the good times with jax when they were barely ever not an extreme asshole>isn't she lovely>for a character who isn't that lovely>and may be a sheI'm starting to think this episode is an autism filter. If you can't grasp irony or fill in the gaps with your brain instead of lore then it's a frustrating show
>yeah bro i think all these random people with completely normal lives are just like... walking into this abandoned building and putting a headset on.... like... dude, don't worry about it. trust me it doesn't matter for the narrative...This is the best you fags can come up with? LOL
>>154288881They gave an explanation for some of them. The machine is still running in the derelict C&A building. Pomni slipped it on during some urban exploring. Ragatha during a real estate tour of the building. Jax while he was homeless and broke in. But for Gangle and Zooble there was nothing.
>>154288353Bullshit, they never explained jack. Tell me, why did Ragatha or whatever the fuck her name was put the headset on in the first place? How did she get access to this technology? If Cain can connect with Internet now, why not try to contact somebody, anybody outside the circus?This was Game of Thrones all over again, the creator just wanted to fuck off and do anything but finish the story, no wonder Goose didnt give a shit about the leaks.
I can't really explain how much the finale makes me hate TADC. It's not a burning ravenous hate. Or even disappointment. I'm bored with the idea of it now. There's no point in this story. I don't know, at least they could have done something with actually fixing the abstractions? And something with the Wifi access. The ability to add new information to the circus is a huge idea, but as is it's not even stagnate. It's doomed? Goose wanted to make a point about a stagnate life still having meaning, but that's not even what the circus is.
>>154288973>Tell me, why did Ragatha or whatever the fuck her name was put the headset on in the first place?Same reason any of them did. Curiosity.>How did she get access to this technology? She was a real estate agent. She was probably in the building as part of her job in some capacity.>If Cain can connect with Internet now, why not try to contact somebody, anybody outside the circus?And do what, exactly?>Hi Abby, I'm Pomni, a digital brainscan of you living in the computer! Wanna chat?FFS, get real.
>get realTake your own advice you sperg.
>>154288593>Yes, we doNo we dont. And the fact you chose to give this half-assed answer is pretty telling. Why POMNI put the headset on? Answer that nigger.
So the real Jax never trooned out? Isn't that a happy ending?
>>154288445Imagine if Lord of The Rings ended like this
>>154289030>Why POMNI put the headset on? Answer thatHe's just gonna give you another bullshit reply. He'll say she did it "out of curiosity" or some shit, like all the other characters too apparently.
>>154289030>Why POMNI put the headset on? Answer that nigger.Why do you think she does urbex is the first place? Curiosity you dumb fucking faggot.
Man the rabbit really did ruin everything, the OG circus had a perfect balance
>troon-coded character kills himself and the cis characters live happily what did goose mean by this?
>>154288773I can relate, would love to resonate with that frog's ass.
>the amazing 5 minute lore dump INSIDE of a flashback
>trust me dudeee, they just like... all went into this abandoned building and like... put on a headset. all of them... for the same reason... don't question it!
What happened to zoomers, man? Where whatever this shit is is what deeply resonates with them.
>>154289052>character does activity based entirely on curiosity>this is bad answer for why they would do something as part of that activity
>>154288864>Grant BestWho?
>>154289076doesn't really make sense for all of them, now does it? try again
>>154289092>Who?broooo you didn't read every page of the wiki???? you should know who Grant Best is like me!!
for me they most likely got paid to have their brains scanned for this awesome simulation projectthey real ones won't care they made digital copies of themselves while the brain data got a little modified to not remember much about their interaction with the brain scanning thing
>>154288956why would they make an autism bait show with colorful cute character designs that's also an autism filter? i'm likely only repeating myself at this point it just feels like such a copout to be like oh they're not real so none of this mattered at the last minute and i feel like this show didn't start out so like melodramatic and empty. the first episode very clearly shows pomni adjusting to her body's changes so the immersion factor is totally broken.
The saddest part of this show was the fact that Jax literally cucked Kaufmo.Kaufmo wanted that frog pussy, and then Jax cucked him.
>>154289093It does. Give me one good reason it doesn't. Curiosity is a natural and normal thing, just because you're a socially maladjusted basement dweller who hasn't stepped outside in 15 years for fear of the sun doesn't mean the rest of the world is.
>>154288809>i watched half the pilot and then lost interestso why are you here in this thread? how long before you lose interest in this thread and leave?
>>154289141because not all of them are urban explorers. do you walk into abandoned buildings and put on headsets? no, you don't. try again.
>>154288901Just look at how many people in this thread are getting caught up on minute details that don't matter, desperately searching for some deeper lore that doesn't exist, because they don't want to admit that the show isn't about the lore. That there's not some deeper meaning to it all.It's a bunch of people trapped in a virtual reality coming to terms with the fact that they only have each other. That escape isn't possible, despite their efforts, and that they need to learn to accept each other and their situation. And I believe that if you go into it with the idea that it's going to be this grand adventure of them digging into the code and returning to reality, digimon-style, you're going to be disappointed. The majority of the episodes are about what I'm describing; just characters growing closer and becoming friends. It's not about escaping.
>>154289092Kinger, you fucking retard
>>154289165It's never explained that Grant is Kinger.
>>154288250Read the thread.
>>154287958Jax's inability to be normal and the conflict people take with that being the right behavior is ultimately what the show is about, everything else is extra desu.
>>154289115>>154289115>they're not real so none of this matteredBut they are real? Like, is the clone of a person it's own person? Of course they are! Are you just caught up on the fact that they're digital? That they're effectively AI?
Jax being a mentally unstable murderer is the entire reason the Circus fell apart.
they should've taken it to it's logical conclusion, the 'happy' ending as it is, but then a million-year timeskip and all of them losing their minds and abstracting anyway
>>154289197Finally, a based take.
>>154287958Nortubel has a better ending
wait so Ponmi could've made the crocodile real and fuck him, right?
>>154289153>so why are you here in this thread?To remind you that, despite your show's totally-organic-guys popularity, the castration cult and its media still have opposition. It's just a matter of time before that opposition becomes serious and, commits the cult and all of its capitulators into conversion therapy, and purges its media from ever being viewed again.
why was the frog ALWAYS in the "fuck me from behind" position?
>>154288029Its a trope as old as stories themselves
>>154289222Absolutely.>>154289236God forbid someone be a cocktease.
>>154289008>curiosity>some capacity>>154288971>waltz into a data center>>154289068>>154288969People defending this turd are in denial, just like with Neo Genesis Evangelion's ending when it first aired: idiots called it deep and experimental, when in reality Gainax just ran out of money and did whatever KEK.
>>154289162its just such a last minute reveal, defeats the purpose of characters reacting to their changed body and ruins the immersion factor of this being an actual experience someone could have.>It's a bunch of people trapped in a virtual reality coming to terms with the fact that they only have each other. That escape isn't possible, despite their efforts, and that they need to learn to accept each other and their situation.its just frustrating because reality is already hopeless enough. between this and all the promo capitalistic bullshit it reminds me of all the nags that tell me i should just fall in like and be a corporate drone for peanuts and it doesn't matter if what i earn can be stripped from me anyways because i can just be kicked out of my own home and dropped every time with no autonomy. but i suppose it doesn't matter because we'll all just die soon enough anyways. time isn't that long.
>>154288971>But for Gangle and Zooble there was nothingDescribes everything about them for the entire show.
>>154289318I'm gonna be honest with you, bro, I think you have baggage here.
>>154289162>The majority of the episodes are about what I'm describing; just characters growing closer and becoming friends. It's not about escaping.If they wanted people to care about that, they should've revealed the plot twist much sooner instead of going with so much teasing about them wanting to escape and dealing with conflicts they had in the real world along the way. Heck, the fact that Jax caused the abstraction of others based on a personal issue that wasn't even his own to begin with makes this worse.
>>154289236>be Ribbit>finally convince Caine to set up romantic lights in your room>oh and a queen sized bed>invite the rabbit >finally gonna get that bun's buns>yfw just talks about murder the whole time
>>154287998
>>154289111Bam. There. Done. Pass the cocaine. Nobody cares about them, not their former selves, not the researchers, nobody. The only reason they still exists at this point is because the eggheads are curious to see how far will they make it without Cain. >But even if nobody cares about us, we care about each other.Perfect bittersweet message, but instead we got facebook and sheeeet.
>>154287958This show is highly satanic because it was made by a trannysexualised
Why didn't anyone try to steal and pawn off a perfectly good piece of technology in the middle of nowhere
>>154289337kek. she wanted to fuck him so bad
>>154289363i agree it was a good show
>>154289372she/they, Chud
>>154287958First frame of the show is lowres PC soma undercurrent but they end up siding with the adult daycare therapycore flouride stare people. why
>>154289337*manslaughter
This show is therapyslop. It's designed for zoomers who like self-diagnosing and victimising themselves with mental illnesses.
>>154289397*humanslaughterDo better.
>>154287958This either a troll post, or OP fell asleep while watching episode 9. I'm leaning toward the former.>they're still stuck in virtual hellWhat? With Caine now mellowed out and giving them control of the Circus, their existence is far from "hell". They can't leave due to being brain scans, and they seemingly can't change their physical forms, but other than that they're free to do and create whatever they want. With their newfound ability to conjure, and Caine partnering with them, they could essentially create a paradise for themselves. Watch the end credits animation and you'll actually see more islands slowly added as offshoots from the main island.>their close friends are all horrible monsters stuck in perpetual bodily agonyMonsters? I suppose. But "perpetual bodily agony"? Absolutely not. It's never even implied that abstracted members of the circus are in physical pain.>the real versions of themselves are living it largeWhat is this supposed to even mean? The "real" versions of themselves are living relatively normal lives.>they've just taken complete comfort in total helplessness>all while using the power of friendship and hugs to "fix" everythingDid you wacth a different episode 9 than the rest of us? If anything, they've taken comfort in the fact that they have eachother. They came to terms with their situation, and did what they could to make life better for themselves (and their abstracted friends). This is analogous to real life. You can't control everything, even with all the riches and power in the world. Sometimes you're just stuck with the hand you're dealt, and can only do so much to make things better. Having people who love you helps too. The message isn't to simply accept shitty situations. It's that situations can improve if you work on them. Also that life is worth living, even if it's not perfect and you have to do a little work to make things better.>>154288232Now this is valid criticism. I agree.
>>154289141>a socially maladjusted basement dweller Thats the only person I can think of would be desperate enough to try and get isekai'd inside an abandoned pc. Try again cunt.
>>154289384You know, calling Jax she seems really disrespectful. He's made it clear his prefered pronouns are he/him.
>>154287958It was basically The Hollow ending. Not bad, it could of been a lot more depressing. I'm glad the gang gave Caine a second chance, they're all so cute together at the end
>>154289222The sex update is real, so sure.
imagine defending this show, knowing how retarded Goose is and how Goose didn't care about this show towards the end.
>>154289389Like this dialogue between Pomni and Kinger reminds me of a conversation between coworkers trying to pass the time on a slow shift. Everyone seems afraid of each other.
>>154289337>Have you ever done something you regret?>I ran away from my parents' cult LOLThis character was literally ass, as in the only reason people care for her.
i just feel betrayed because>the circus is not symbolic of ANYTHING>their characters are not connected to who they are except for gangle and zooble in a loose way>the SOMA theme would usually take the philosophical stage but it takes no precedence over anything>obviously shoehorned anti-ai messaging turns caine into a claude analogue instead of potential AGI who we, the audience, can learn from
>>154288607BASED. Fuck mass-greentexters!
>>154289329sure but that doesn't mean everything has to be just as empty and meaningless as reality? that no matter what we do we're basically fucked and trapped in a state of powerless purgatory regardless? it's not satisfying at all and even less so when they pull a last minute bullshit retcon reveal that they weren't even the people they were supposed to be to begin with
>>154289337>be Ribbit>have the entire show be built around the mystery exchange that occurred between you and Jax>it was Jax being a mentally unstable troon all along>people hate you and not Jax.
>>154289384>she/theyHonest question, what does that even mean?
I swear to god nothing with an interesting premise ever has a decent ending. Why doesn't anyone know how to end anything in a satisfying way?
>>154289479>BASED. Fuck mass-greentexters!based. i agree. hate these faggots that think they're 'right' just because they pull apart your post line by line.
>>154289476Right? like there is nothing to ground any of the artistic choices in.
>>154289488It means a castration cultist wrote the series.
>>154289493Asking the right questions anon.
>anti-AI messagingIf anything, this show provides pro-AI messaging. the ending shows humans (well, scans of humans) getting along with AI and building something better out of it.
>>154287958The inside of Jax's mind is a funhouse version of the circus bc his strategy is to push the absurd premise to its conclusion.
>>154289493i get it- nothing ever has closure! trauma is an endless cycle! but with fiction you have a chance to change that. and instead its just ragebait retcons and sad speeches that don't matter because they're not the real person according to this last second reveal pulled of the ass
>>154289531there's nothing interesting about AI that does what it's supposed to do.>design a circus themed playground>*designs it*>OH MY GODversus>hey our decades old program gained sentience and is running its own experiments on defunct brain scans
what happens when the server they're in gets a blackout or a blue screen
>>154289590>what happens when the server they're in gets a blackout or a blue screenTrust me bro, this program that's been running on an abandoned computer since the 90s will NEVER blackout or blue screen. Just trust me bro.
Hey, 30+ unc here. Kept seeing this series floating around and it seems like it's all over now. Don't think I'll ever watch it, but I am curious about it's popularity. Did you like it? Is this some seminal moment for a younger gen? Or were all these people depressed adults and I was the target demo this whole time?
so "abstraction" is actually their brain files being corrupted?
>>154289646the target demo are a certain subset of young adults who have never had real problems
>>154289652abstraction is a metaphor for suicide/depression
>>154289646It had a lot of promise but turned out to be stupid and pointless, so in that respect it feels very of the times
>>154289667why Kingler's wife killed herself or got depressed if she had Kingler by her side
>>154289691why does having someone by your side preclude you from becoming depressed or suicidal?
dunno if it's just me being only mildly interested in the series, but frankly i don't feel bad for jax despite how hard they tried to trick me otherwise.Zooble porking Gangle in the credits tho was kinda funny, didn't expect that
>>154289646I think it is made for the terminally online amateur art / hobbyist crowd. It has some good stylistic moments, but never breaks beyond a certain threshold of safety. Most of the substance comes from dialogues which also stay within a certain reach, I think so as to not to cause fear in that target audience. You might find value in it if you are a tech-y wannabe lefty type person...
>>154289712you can talk about it bear it together
>>154289590Well, they die, I suppose.But then again, you could also die tomorrow. The inevitability of death doesn't really diminish the message of caring about the people in your life.
>old computer contains a digital island floating in the void with sentient inhabitants>eventually, after years of living less-than-ideal lives, these inhabitants are given the ability to massively control many parts of their world>among the many things they do with this power, they create many more islands connected to the first one.did the ending remind anyone else of paraphore
>>154288223Notice how most of them seemed to have been at a low point in their lives and then in the ending montage they all miraculously got better and are happy. Basically they signed up for medical trials and got a big fat check for essentially giving away their complete bio data and then used that money fix their retarded lives. The only part thats left unanswered is how the circus is itself is still running, and what will happen if someone in the real world decides to hit the off button.
>>154289691kinger kept having to pretend he didn't know how to conjure and then he actually forgot after he went insane
The ending was fine, but if you watch all of these episodes in one sitting, it feels a bit overdramatic for something so short. I also don't think it committed enough to the Jax being trans part. It's like they wanted to do this subtext that he's "definitely" trans but still didn't make it obvious enough. I think this is because it would hurt the merchandise sales and also because this show is popular in Japan so they can still sell the image of cute boy Jax there and have the woke crap in USA.
>>154287958my thoughts exactly i clap like a seal for you speaking my mind
>>154289728I don't see him remotely as a trans allegory. But whatever a VA said it and opened the floodgates instead of the show's creator.
I'm gonna be honest, Manager Gangle was fucking hot, especially watching her get all bossy and bitchy. I also liked Ragatha on the stupid sauce.
>>154289646i'm older than you and i liked it>depressed adults and I was the target audiencewe watched don bluth, yeah that trackshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePbprOBva9I&list=RDePbprOBva9I&start_radio=1
>>154287958>Jax is not actually gay or transLol, lmao. So how many fans already crashed out over this?
>>154289728he's simply not transMight be bisexual, or at the very least interested in crossdressing, but it seems as though all of his romantic interest has been heterosexual.The writer is trans, I doubt she cares about "not committing". If she doesn't want the character to be trans, that's that.
>>154289061>cis characters>Gangle
I hate Jax.
>>154289646The premise is golden and the perfect stage for a deep philosophical and highly depressing dialouge But its primarily used for unfunny jokes and drama that only a specific sub sect of internet youths would enjoyI want to pound Jax and pull on his bunny ears while doing it thoT. 32 yrold unc
>>154289749It's a big problem in American animation industry, I think. Voice actors should just shut up and not give their opinions like they're facts. It's so unprofessional and reminds me of how the voice actors ruined the way Voltron was being interpreted.
>>154288340>ScratchWho?
>Jax wanted to troon out>he kills himself/get abstractedGoose is kinda based
>>154289754Their coping saying he really IS trans because of the ribbit bow scene
>>154289484Literally everyone on 4chan thinks Jax sucks and is retarded and think Ribbit is hot what afe you talking about?
>>154287958Bro can't handle a bittersweet ending. "Trapped" was the only logical conclusion, just be happy it didn't end like IHNMAIMS where everyone dies horribly except the protagonist, who lives in torturous agony for eternity.For me it was definitely a GOOD ending. Not a perfect or great ending, but I felt it was never going to have such with what was being set up. It did well, However, I thought the final few seconds was cheesy. Didn't really need that, but I think the majority of fans would like something that cheesy. I don't really care about whether their real selves interact, because their virtual selves "are real". The real selves can do whatever, it's fine.I'm glad it didn't say solidly "abstraction can be undone" but kind of left it open to a possibility. I generally liked the choices in direction. The Jax memory sequence was actually brutal and made me deeply uncomfortable in a very good way. Also felt super SUPER RPGMaker horror inspired all the way through, even recent RPGMaker stuff like The Coffin of Andy and Leyley what with Jax's fantasy of Gangle being his fucktoy. Overall very neat. Also Pomni's a great protagonist.The only genuinely weak aspect of the ending for me was that Caine's stuff felt a wee bit "rushed". Like a little rapid, but I guess it's fine.
>>154289663Like some Cold Steel fans grew up?>>154289681Eh, many animated shows start strong and end weak. I heard there was some funding and Netflix involved in all of it, so that might not have helped either.>>154289719The style is eye catching, but something about it doesn't click for me.>>154289751Glad to hear some positive. Though I did pop into a negative thread, so maybe I'll ask one more group.
>>154288593>>Who is behind it?>Scratch.Just putting some random name behind it isn’t an answer. You might as well just say “Someone”
>>154289725>spoilerNow that you mention itCant fucking believe a furry porn game featuring roasted fetishes on sticks has better and more well written lore than TADC, I should really replay it
>>154289815nah bro, everyone who has read the wiki knows who Scratch is!
>>154288223they did though, literally in episode 1
>>154289817*roasted fetuses on sticks
>>154289754Amazingly, Goose has managed to anger both sides! The right are pissed that he's trans, and the left are pissed that he isn't! What an amazing show.
>>154288223This one I give a pass and say everyone after the original group was just curiosity, like Pomni’s case. Still would have been interesting to learn more about that, though.
>>154287958>no answers about C&A>no answers about the hardware they're running on>no answers about how any of them got there>no answers about what bubble was doing>no answers about jax freaking out over cars, troon backstory trauma dump instead, probably a literal author insert>somehow... caine has returned...Gooseworx came to really hate digital circus and its fans that he just flipped the table and fucked off, lmao
>>154287998dellusion is not bitersweet, it's a complete defeat.But you will pay for more anyway, that's the trick with this scam
>>154289854>no answerswhy do you read or watch or consume anything in this autistic manner
>>154288223https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHn44vWyH3E
>>154287958Oh! It´s allmost as if...YOU REALLY CANNOT HAVE A HAPPY AND MEANINGFULL LIFE IF IT´S STAGNATED!!!IF YOUR LIFE IS STAGNATED, THEN YOU AREN´T REALLY HAPPY, YOU ARE JUST DELUDED FROM LETTING YOUR DEPRESSION CONSUME YOU!!!!IT´S PSYCHOLOGICAL MANAGED DECLINED FOR FUCK SAKE!!!Gooseworx you´re a fucking cunt. I´m not gonna waste my fucking time with Glitch anymore.
ok but did Jax push the red button?
What's stopping Caine from regaining his powers or becoming even more powerful by scraping data from the internet?
>>154289856>you're autistic if you want major plot threads resolvedHe said smugly.
>>154288531Media literacy is dead
>>154289873No, they aren't major plot threads. The plot was about the characters, you're angry about lore.
>>154289862Because he would have gone back to living with the consequences of real life. The videos were of him running away from home
>>154288058It's a metaphor for troons self-destructive urges extending to everything they do, including fiction.
>>154288531>Viewers were given the expectation of the characters eventually escapingWha? Were we? When?
>>154289883Yeah evidently with people like you. Womp womp
>>154289890>Wha? Were we? When?By the fact that they're trapped in a digital realm and the first few episodes were all about them wondering if there's an escape (plus, the entire episode about trying to escape). Following a normal narrative structure, the viewer expects them to eventually find an escape from the digital realm.
>>154287958accepted that the real versions of themselves are livingwhat does that even mean exactly?
>>154289905They try to "escape" in I Have no Mouth and I Must Scream (the series' main inspiration) too. There is no escape.It's logical to want to escape, that does not mean there is an escape.When you're born into this world, some people believe that everything about the world is wretched and it can't be real. It is, though, and the only "escape" is death. A conclusion reached in IHNMAIMS, reality, and this series (via abstraction)
>>154288588Yeah. If in the end it´s all to put characters in a purgatory to deal with their internal demons and just cock tease everyone with something that´s honestly more interesting than therapy drama, then don´t pretend to be ofended or mock the people who wanted more than what they got.IF your show can be boiled to "Life is fucked we jsut have to roll on and find mild thrills, let´s enjoy ourselves" then you might as well have made a mid looking Life Action drama of people on a grey room.All of this setting, for fucking nothing
I'm kinda annoyed they never went how the brain files work. They point out in that their pretty small. My theory is the humans are just a bunch of tags or data points given to a model to act like a human, like asking chat-gpt to role play someone but better. That and abstraction never fully being explained unless I missed it.
>>154289873I don't think you actually know what a 'major plot thread' is.The hardware they're running on is not relevant to the story. How they got there is not only answered, but also arguably not relevant to the story.This show is not a deep lore dump! It's not about 'the deep dark secret of the Digital Circus,' no matter how much you seem to think it is.A character focused show being about a group people learning to understand each other and accept their situation is not bad because it's not actually about something completely different.
>>154287958Am I a faggot for crying during the scene where they all saw how their irl counterparts were doing?
The fact that they actually put this shit in theatres makes me think its one big gotcha.Imagine going in person to see this shit.
>>154288669.... is there any lore that I might have missed?
>>154287958The inevitable season two will fix it.
While I can’t say I was satisfied with the finale, like a lot of people here, reading some of the takes also makes me realize some people are just dumb af.
>>154289905>the viewer expects them to eventually find an escape from the digital realm.Or to accept their situation. Both are valid narrative threads, especially when the show is also hammering in the idea that they need to learn to love each other, because they're all they have. Like in Spudsys.
>>154289932If you felt something, no, it was a pretty sweet moment so that’s just human.Crying? Yeah, that’s kinda faggy.
>>154289884>but muh charactersFirst episode literally had ominous music playing with pomni staring at the computer and the headset, that's a plot hook. There was no reason both couldn't be dealt with by cutting down on the sobbing and therapyspeak, even Jax's segment could have been significantly shortened and lost no substance.>you're angry>let me tell you what you thinkOh fuck off faggot.
>>154289922They are still "real" conscious beings
>>154289933Yeah it's weird to me that it played in theatres. I didn't hate the episode, but it was kinda boring all in all for something to warrant going to theaters for. The second to last episode had more of a fit for such a thing. Maybe they should've combined the last two episodes or something idk.
>>154287958expecting a tranny to write a satisfying ending is like expecting a jap to write a satisfying ending
>>154289967>>but muh charactersThat's not what I said. Anyway this guy summarized it for you >>154289931 . You do appear to have autism
>>154289922they lost the coin toss
Caine was so cute, although that's just a character Gooseworx stole from Toby Fox.
It's extremely telling that the only people who are defending this dogshit show are those that obsessively read every detail on the wiki. Anyone who casually watches the show (i.e. 90% of people) would have no fucking idea who Scratch is.
>>154289970The theaters thing was 100% a "I want indie animation to be recognized and legitimized" move by Glitch (they literally said so). I don't think it was an episode that needed a theatrical release, they just thought that this show was their best shot.It must've been so fucking weird watching this depression fest with a bunch of children
>>154289979>this guy summarized it for you>I don't think you actually know what a 'major plot thread' is.LeT mE tElL yOu WhAt YoU tHiNk>durr hurrm, important aspects of the story aren't actually important you see, they NEEDED to spend an hour crying :)Retarded shit, especially for something based on AM, and again, both could have been wrapped up easily in that hour.
>>154288223>>154289257>waltz into a data centerif was a fucking magical 90s PC. no actual data center has the compute power to simulate the human brain in real time.https://youtu.be/sCssyRYfYw8?t=955
>>154290001yeah yeah yeah I know you're autistic, no need to scream it
>>154289950I think Episode 1 just gave these guys the wrong idea and they've been running with it ever since. It sets up that they're gonna try to escape, and that there's hidden FNAF style lore that's gonna pay off, and that it'll all come to a head in this big climactic twist...And then that's not what the show is like at all, actually. It has none of that. It's actually the opposite of that, in every way.I can understand feeling cheated, but also, like, at some point you have to realize the show's not what you thought it was.
>>154290001don't tell this nigger about [literally any book in existence]
>>154290008>no argumentA concession is a concession I guess
>>154290005It's pretty clear to me that they aren't "human" mind with the small file size thing. Still wish they went deeper into that bit of things.
>>154290023You were already given an argument twice. You dismissed it in alt caps like a retard.
>>154290010>I can understand feeling cheatedYou could have stopped there. You know exactly how dogshit this show is and why people are angry about it. Saying "well it's just not for you!" isn't an excuse; it's a shitshow.
>>154289787Try watching what’s on the screen instead of looking at your phone, zoomer
>>154289992You must have been on your phone because this was pretty easy to follow even if you didn’t rewatch episodes or read up on back stories. The only thing you PROBABLY wouldn’t know for sure is that “Scratch” was that yellow dog character but that’s not really relevant and not that hard to figure out anyway.
>>154290045No. you're just a sperg who has read the wiki. You wouldn't know who Scratch is otherwise.
>>154290029Again, telling someone they don't know what plot hooks are while telling them those definitely not plot hooks don't matter and shouldn't be addressed isn't an argument, or at least not a good one. Again, both could have been addressed in the episode length if there had been less trauma dumping and therapyspeak without losing the substance of the characters accepting their situation.
>>154290010I don't think it gave that kind of feeling. Then again I watched all of these episodes for the first time just before the movie. That's why it wasn't confusing to me either who Scratch is because I had just watched the episode where Kinger mentions him and how they created the project together, so I'm not sure why anons are so confused about that part.It seems like it was the best decision to watch this show in one sitting instead having too high expectations for it in longer period.
>>154290057It’s pretty funny how hard you’ve forcing this meme. You’re just stupid. The audience knew who scratch was, there isn’t that much information to store in your head about this show.
>>154290063It's a shame you're just wrong, autistic, and aren't familiar with literature, television, film, etc. Really absolutely anything that cares naught about the setting and focuses primarily on the characters (AKA most stories in existence).You'd probably rage about The Odyssey because it didn't explain what a cyclops is and why it exists.
>>154290076No one is forcing a meme, you're just mad I called you out as being a sperg. Calm down.
The entire episode was just them crying and moping for an hour like a bunch of faggots, and /co/mblr is defending it just because they've got the hots for the clown girl. How embarrassing.Also, the plot of the episode was about the bunny being a tranny fag. No wonder you guys like it so much.
>>154289712Well the show made a big fucking deal of how the only thing any of them had to do to survive was to connect with each other, but apparently Queenie didn't feel connected to her own husband and it's never elaborated on why. Nor any of the other members of their group of already long time friends and coworkers.
>>154290083No, you’re just an idiot who’s typed the same thing out multiple times, bawling that a dumb cartoon was too smart for you. And you wanted MORE lore? Why? You were filtered by what little was already there.
how tf did anyone complaining about the final episode get to it and not expect characters crying in it?
>>154289937Sorry, if "she" never started "transitioning."
>>154290099I said calm down, you're getting heated. Anyway, you're a sperg who doesn't understand how poorly explained everything is in this show.
>>154290100Something like 13 million people were watching, statistically some probably skipped the middle episodes
>>154287958>It's like ending of SOMA but I'm supposed to feel good for Simon's clone being trapped in the ocean.if you think that's what the premise is based on it's not picrelthe show has always been a version of the nihilism vs existentialism but with relationships
The only interesting part of the entire thing was Jax gaslighting the frog.
>>154290117That's wild to me. What kind of person only watches the first and last episodes of something? What do they do with all the time they saved?
>>154290108Everyone else understood it and you’re crying about a wiki, maybe you’re just an idiot
>>154290100I expected crying, I didn't expect nor enjoy the crying dragging on as long as it did
>>154290136Nah you're just a sperg bro. calm down
>>154290085Friend, you don't need to dump bait like this, everyone is already hooked. You can just join the conversation.
Arin Hanson sounded good in this, I don't get why his voice acting is so bad in Gameoverse.
>>154290129Masturbate to clussy?
>>154290141You’ve made multiple seething posts crying about a wiki because a children’s cartoon was too smart for you.
>>154287958The implication that no else discovers the circus is depressing af.A better ending would've been have some random person enter the digital circus. And show them go slowly insane living in a frictionless, post-Jax society.
>>154290129maybe they're hate watching, so they can have a small amount of knowledge then shitpost on /co/
>>154290162and you keep seething at me cos ur a sperg
>>154290150you can go to /gif/ and /agif/ for that
>>154290100I expected crying, I didn't expect that to be THE ONLY FUCKING THING THAT HAPPENS IN THE WHOLE DAMN EPISODE.HOW ARE THEY EVEN FORGIVING CAINE WITHOUT ELABORATING ON HIM MIND CONTROLLING EVERYONE??
>>154290178You don't need a small amount of knowledge to shitpost on /co/ and you know it!
>>154288223This is what enrages me the most about this show - all this bullshit lovey-dovey "i'm here for you" dialogue that achieves nothing, but not ONCE has any character seemingly ever asked another "hey how did you guys get here in the first place?"Like oh yeah sure let's figure out how to escape the circus but not ever ask ourselves how we got here
The episode was so bad I had to watch Space Jam afterward to wash the taste out of my mouth. At least that had Lola Bunny as eye candy for the str8 male gaze.
>>154290206They didn't elaborate on anything, like the fact Caine apparently has internet now. Infinite possibilities they're just not gonna touch.They had an hour. It's crazy
the most fustrating thing is that kingers IRL counterpart looks 25 years old. he was a software developer in the mid to late 90s, he should look to be in his 50s or 60s
>>154290185>wiki wiki wiki dude read wiki you read a wikiThe only one seething here is you
>>154290247ok sperg
>>154287958>ITT Jax's sequence hitting too close to home for a bunch of fags that need actual therapy
>>154290217Do you usually need your media spoon fed to you? I only ask because it's fairly obvious how they got into the Circus. It was answered in the first episode of the show, we don't need someone to look at the camera and say 'I put on a headset and now I'm here.' Despite Pomni literally doing that!
>>154290217they all seem to have amnesia up to the point where the scans occured.
my only nitpick is the lack of a gummigoo ending for pomni
>>154290255Did you open the wiki up yet?
>>154290167Realistically Caine could probably mix and match the brain scans that exist to create entirely new people and personalities so they could have a steady stream of eternally trapped people to keep it from getting too monotonous.
>>154290227>like the fact Caine apparently has internet now.Imagine if he could communicate with humans like they do in Pantheon.
>>154290262Oh yes, they were going on about their day when a headset materialized on their head, how silly of me.You know what I meant you fucking idiot. Where was the headset situated, what were they doing in that building, were they alone or were there people putting the headset on them, did they have any idea what it was supposed to be, etc.
>>154290290he could bring back all the NPCs and just fill them with shit from the internet to make them like almost full people
>>154289381Faggot
>>154290217>all this bullshit lovey-dovey "i'm here for you" dialogue that achieves nothingThat dialogue is the entire point of the show! The show is not about them escaping, it's about the lovey-dovey dialogue and the characters growing as people. I think your missing the point of the show here.
I've always had the thought that they evetually realize at the endThey're as real as anything else in their fucked up world, might as well get into it, I'm sure that they can live just fine in the circus
>>154290227>like the fact Caine apparently has internet now.nah, he ran out or something.
Imagine being the dad who had to take his kid to see this. He was probably sitting there thinking, "Damn, this kid's a sissy."
>>154290345No
>>154290206>HOW ARE THEY EVEN FORGIVING CAINE WITHOUT ELABORATING ON HIM MIND CONTROLLING EVERYONE??Him "mindcontrolling" them doesn't matterThey're as real as the NPCs he makes, as the moon shows us near the end
>>154290319They actually talked about that, yeah. I haven’t even recently watched the episode and I distinctly remember it.
>>154290345>Imagine being the dad who had to take his kid to see this. He was probably sitting there thinking, "Damn, this kid's a sissy."I genuinely think about this. I wonder what parents think of their children watching this piece of shit lol.
>>154289257>in reality Gainax just ran out of money You fell for a meme
>>154290357Probably regretting letting the iPad and YouTube algorithms raise their child
>>154290329
>>154290357>I genuinely think about this.Because you're a kissless virgin with no kids, yeah.
>>154290348>Him "mindcontrolling" them doesn't matterI hate you. Holy fuck I hate you and everything to do with this fucking dogshit stain of a show. I hate this brainless, standardless mess of a fanbase and I hate Goose's atrocious fucking mess of writing.Yeah, next time you want to make the big pivotal moment of your story that marks the moment shit gets real and makes the antagonist go full villain and establishes the final, conclusive arc has begun just get resolved with "it doesn't matter, shut up", DON'T WRITE A FUCKING STORY AT ALL.HOLY FUCK I ACTUALLY CAN'T BELIEVE PEOPLE ARE DEFENDING THIS WITH "IT DOESN'T MATTER", DID YOU EVER EVEN CARE ABOUT ANYTHING BUT SHIPPING THE CHARACTERS??
>>154290376>insane seethepost about nothingOkay
>>154290382Abstract yourself.
>>154290351We have answers to those questions, yes, but they're also not what he wants, I suspect. He wanted a deeper exploration into seriously escaping the Circus and figuring out important details about the headset is just the segue into that. But, as has been repeated multiple times in this thread, the show is not about escaping the Circus. And the story the show is telling wouldn't be improved by an extended scene of everyone calmly explaining why they put the headset on and what they know about C&A and lore garbage like that. You put the headset on and you enter the Circus, that's all you need to know. Anything else is a distraction.
>>154289319Gangle at least had the fast food episode. Zooble just noped out of every adventure and got very little development. Then the finale is 60% Jax traumaloredump and 40% montages set to an "epic" version of the TADC theme because they didn't want to spend time on anything besides Jax's pointless sob story that leads nowhere.
>>154287958The moral of the story is to start taking estrogen before its too late
>>154290269Multiple episodes of Pomni pining for the Aussie croc and they didn't bother with a hint of resolution beyond "oh yeah, I left the worlds open">>154290320Having the NPCs wandering around like real people was another way they could depict the new Circus more like a home yet didn't
>>154290392The moral of the story is actually that you should learn to introspect so you don't sperg out and ruin your life (illustrated by pomni saying "you should've just talked to me, man")
>learning about the real life versions of them>they get to Jax>unironically used "unhoused"with how edgy Goose seems to be sometimes, it's pretty funny they actually did the super woke version of homeless everyone agrees is a dumb phrase
>>154290206>>154290376He wasn’t consciously manipulating everyone, he just had the ability to. Stuff like Gangle’s mask and making Jax vegan were one-offs, and he permanently damaged Kinger and accidentally corrupted Scratch. He’s both lost some measure of power and respects the rest of the cast now, so he’s not going to do it again.
>>154289384When was this revealed
>>154290392The moral of the story is that transexualism is always a result of childhood abuse.
>>154287958meme for distribution, comrades
>>154290407He's just having a frothing meltdown
>>154290388It’s terminal MatPat brain, god damn. I grew up on him too but every show isn’t deep lore. Halfway through the series being entirely character-driven should have been enough to indicate where it would be going.
>>154289754It is a bit wild how Goose didn't fully commit to Jax being trans. It feels a bit strange that he'd decide to leave him in this weird middle ground when he had full creative control to just make him trans, and the fanbase wouldn't have had an issue with it.
>>154290399>He wasn’t consciously manipulating everyone, he just had the ability to. Stuff like Gangle’s mask and making Jax vegan were one-offs, and he permanently damaged Kinger and accidentally corrupted Scratch.>He wasn't consciously manipulating everyone, except all those times he did and that he kept doing from the start until his "redemption", constantly even like Gangle's masks being a permanent factor she has to deal with or Kinger being messed up forever, or the abstractions to begin with being irreparable shit he caused by starting with Scratch and seemingly starting a chain reaction.>Also nobody cares :)
>>154290407>>154290413No, it was revealed by goose on tumblr at some point
>WHY did the show not address this one specific point that my autism is hyperfixated on???
>>154290416It's heavily implied, but left ambiguous on purpose. I assume to allow people who aren't going through Jax's EXACT situation to also relate to him.
>>154290415I've always felt that people expected Digital Circus to be kind of like FNAF, where there's all these hidden details in the background that tell the REAL story; and it's not hard to see why people have that idea, since it's a quirky, colourful mascot horror show. That expectation just comes with the genre.But it is weird how hard people refuse to accept that there's NO lore in the show at all, and getting MAD that there's no lore for them to dig through.
>>154290435Why did the show not address the single most important point that made Caine go mad and caused the entire situation in episode 9?And why do YOU not care?
>>154290427Gangle dealt with her masks, that was resolved. Yes, he permanently damaged Kinger and has to live with it. He wasn’t forgiven right away, but he’s trapped in there with them. What exactly are you asking for? Him to not be forgiven? More apologizing? Every character getting a say?
>>154290146he's trying to do a serious voice that was originally a joke voice he made up in like 2009
>>154290398I thought that was lame, yeah. I guess Pomni would use the word? Jax does say "homeless".Also likefor realdo people actually get offended by the word "homeless"? Like, for real upset?
>>154290445I thought /co/ accepted this with all the GOOSE HATES YOUR THEORIES THERES NO LORE ABEL WAS A LIE posts when that episode dropped, but I guess not.
>>154290442Sure, but there's no reason to heavily imply it. Was it really just to make Jax more relatable to the general audience? I don't think Goose cares about the general audience.
>>154290452It has nothing to do with people being offended and everything to do with KIKES raping "the economy" and having words memetically mean that the fault for it happening is on you, the goyimThey didn't corner the housing market and make rent 4k a month, goyim! You're not unhoused! You just don't have a house you're homeless!!
>>154290439You also like to dress as a girl "ironically", don't you my sweet little egg?:3
>>154290439i think he was just traumatized by his mom. he specifically said that his mom verbally abused him, then gave him a hug. he rejects ribbit because he was abused so bad by his mom. then he chokes out pomni like he choked out his mom>>154290452if someone doesn't like the word "homeless" they're probably a retarded virtue signaller
>>154290448>What exactly are you asking for? Every character getting a say?Yes?Why are you acting like that's an unreasonable ask when that's literally how the show has been shown to work until now?
>>154287958The point of it was never to escape the desert, idiot. You CAN'T escape the desert. Even wanting to is absurd, and that's the point. Recognize the absurdity. Live in spite of it.That's absurdism.
I just think it's dumb that they knew it'd be stupid if they left it at "these are just clones living in a simulation" and had to basically act like all of them are actually super successful and cool IRL.
>>154290447Him altering their minds is not the single most important point that made Caine go mad, it was them hating his adventures. They wanted to delete him to end the adventures.
>>154289762>he's simply not trans>it seems as though all of his romantic interest has been heterosexual.I don't even buy the trans Jax thing but who he's attracted to has fuckall to do with whether he's a tranny or not
>>154290448How about, you know, showing Caine actually helping Gangle and Kinger with the issues he's caused?How about Caine and Kinger talking at any point, given their history?For a story that predicates itself on being about characters and a character study, none of these characters seem to matter.
I think it's kind of sad that Jax being a tranny was a self-insert by the creator, and it ended up with him killing himself/losing his mind. Is that what's going to happen to Gooseworx?
>>154290476They're not all "super successful". Abigail is just Abigail, for example. But they're also not going mad or breaking down or living in the gutter. Sometimes people make it.
>>154290439I don't get tranny vibes from anyone since trannies aren't real, they just insist that they are. Literal delusion stuff. If it was actually "real" it wouldn't be mired in so much fucking suicide after the "cure" was administered.
>>154290476They're just regular people, the point was to show them that their insecurities and whatnot aren't that bad and they're not failures fundamentally
>>154290464>I don't think Goose cares about the general audience.That's a ~you~ problem I guess. You can be trans, write a story for a trans character, and still care about relatability to your non-trans audience.
>>154290439The obvious issue with the whole attempt at subtext there is that you can't have a supposed brain scanned recreation of someone somehow be trans when the IRL person very clearly is not.
>>154290486Okay?I'm just describing his potential identity. What a fucking touchy reply.
>>154290476It is kinda funny to think about how diffrent that scene would be if even one of them died. Would cain just trying to skip over it, hide or even lie to make them feel better?
>>154290470What’s there for them to say that they didn’t say in the episode prior? It’s not something he consistently does to all of them. Jax is dead and Gangle understands that he gave her the mask with misguided, but good intentions.
>>154289801>just be happy it didn't end like IHNMAIMS where everyone dies horribly except the protagonist, who lives in torturous agony for eternity.Would have been better. Go big or go home.
>>154290501Zooble did question it, though insincerely. It's possible Caine made it all up to give them some hope. Even if it is a lie, it's not like they could catch him on it.
>>154290481Well, we're making progress at least, you've finally gone from >Caine altering their minds doesn't matter in the slightest, shut up you traitor to the glorious TADC fanbaseto>Ok Caine altering their minds mattered, but not as much as them not liking his adventures!Now, if Caine cared more about the adventures thing, how come after 8 episodes of being told none of them liked them, the one thing that actually made him run the fuck away without even finishing his lines and crash out was a single mention of Scratch?
>>154290376>Sorry I flipped out, I had brain damage. Don't worry I took out the blue bubble tumorThis would have been unsatisfying but it'd have been something, but he didn't even tell them that much. It's weird how much shit nobody says in this show, like how nobody managed to have a single lucid conversation with Kinger for a decade or whatever
>>154290504People would be complaining about how obvious the ending always was and how pointless the entire thing was since IHNMAIMS already exists and how goose shat on it with a coat of rainbow tranny paint
>>154290476I wouldn't have minded some bitter reality, but the show is optimist heavy so I think it wanted to not sour the mood. Perhaps to the detriment of the message? Jax did "die" though so idk
>>154290516>Caine built himself a pillow fort a decade ago to be able to stay sane and talk to others while sane.>Never fucking used it.
>>154290515That’s not what happened. The entire confrontation is what made him run away. That was just the breaking point, because it exposed a lie he told them.
>caine comes back and says "yeah I was kind of autistic, sorry... i hope you can forgive me">zooble says "maybe, you fucked up pretty bad">have the rest of the runtime + credits showing how the crew and caine finally learn to see eye to eye and interact on an equal playing field>WTF THEY DIDN'T ADDRESS CAINE AT ALL?Is it autism?
There is no way in hell any realistic interpretation of a human being would feel anything but relief at Jax finally being out of the picture. An insufferable fucking cunt from start to finish. I'd dance outside the metaphorical grave that is his bedroom door with his avatar crossed out before spitting on it.
>>154290527If that was the breaking point, then you have to admit it mattered.
>>154290535Nah it depends on the person. I think Pomni, yes, it makes sense because we see that consistently "she tries" and her level of patience is exceptionally high.I believe that's why they show that several other characters don't cry about it (Gangle does eventually, but yeah). Also I think the context matters. "Everything just got absolutely fuck-ruined, and now one of us died again. Fuck"Double point on context I think that most people would not actually know "how bad" Jax was as a person. He's a real fucking dirtbag but literally only if you know him at the core of his character. If you don't, then he's an asshat but that's about it.
>>154290550Surely someone with a modicum of social skills clocked on that the two people who hung out with Jax the most are the ones who abstracted.
>>154290549That wasn’t me, I replied to your post calling it the most important point
>>154290557Everybody in the circus is really autistic and insecure besides kinger and to an extent pomni so who knows
>>154290535Anon, even that "relief" is still overshadowed by the gloom of "another one bites the dust". There's only so many people in the circus, and nobody should be happier at their world getting smaller.No man is an island, et cetera. Even the death of annoying prats is an unhappy thing.
>>154290469>he rejects ribbit because he was abused so bad by his mom. then he chokes out pomni like he choked out his momnah, his whole spiel was about being conditioned to not feel emotions and how being raised on chaos meant that emotional displays were deeply uncomfortable.being aggressive towards others is an acceptable outlet for him, being vulnerable is not.
>>154290557idk. It's tough, and also literally I don't know (because we don't see everything)Jax is shown to be lying about Ribbit, and specifically keeping her out of stuff. As for Kaufmo, he turns on him while he's apparently going insane. And it seemed like Kaufmo was basically his only "friend".So if you're just looking at it, it could look like a strange falling out and nothing went right, but if you don't "know" you can't just assume it's Jax as the problem. Especially because several other characters have abstracted
>>154290277No non-autist had any idea who that random dog character was
>>154290469>then he chokes out pomni like he choked out his momUhh...he never choked out his mom. He just pushed her, and she didn't get back up.
>>154290570NopeI would rather be socially alone, as I have been for the past 13 years, than deal with someone like Jax. Social isolation you can mentally adapt too, granted you're pretty much broken on a human interaction scale once it settles in, but dealing with someone like Jax constantly would turn most people into murderers.
>>154290566Because it is. You don't make it the breaking point that make Caine transition into full on villain if you're then gonna go "Oh it didn't actually matter lol".It's the fucking Snape kills Dumbledore moment. The Bilbo steals the arkenstone moment. The Mulan is revealed to be a girl moment. You don't just then go "Oh but it didn't actually matter, shut up you fake fan". Yes it fucking mattered, it's literally the single most defining moment in the entire story and what finally decides what ending they're headed to! It's the big plot twist that puts everything that came before into perspective! And it's not even so much as mentioned from that point on!
I'm just happy they can finally Fuck.
>>154290574Nope, it was pretty clear
>>154289341>t. faggotKill yourself, you subhuman, you're probably samefagging as well.
>>154290594It would be hot if Caine one day got curious about sex too and asked Pomni to tell him about it. It would be almost oneshota because she's mentally more mature.
>Imply lore years in advance>Implicitly spell it out in the finaleWowee, what great writing. This isn't even it a plot twist, it's a "make TADC fans theorise to build up hype.
>>154287958>soma for retarded zoomers infected with whatever's in the water, and with trauma dumping >watch it on a goytube account with no tracking and history >I get ads about medicine for vaginal infections this is hysterical hahahahahahaha
Post dog
>>154290217>Like oh yeah sure let's figure out how to escape the circus but not ever ask ourselves how we got hereAfter episode 1 has Pomni try an initial escape, it took episode 7 until they tried again. And even that one they had to be dragged into it as a prank rather than motivating themselves.
What happened to the abstracted characters? Did they all die?
>>154290700No, they built an aquarium for them.
>>154290700we'll never know
>>154290710Oh that's right. That was such a quick scene that I forgot.
>>154290700Caine snapped Kaufmo into the void, not sure how that turned into an aquarium
>>154289162There is no one on Earth who gives a fuck about a group of random fucks learning to accept each other and their situation. It wouldn't matter if they were real people, why would an audience pay to watch fake people act it out instead?My god man, this is a work that is, for all intent and purpose, telling its audience to shut up and be glad it exists. Do you not see how repulsive that is?
>>154290584You aren't "socially isolated" if you're using the internet you FUCKING MORON
Just confirming, there's no differences in the youtube release right? Did Danny North kill himself yet?
>>154287998This isn't bittersweet. More like utterdefeat.
>>154290743> My god man, this is a work that is, for all intent and purpose, telling its audience to shut up and be glad it exists. Do you not see how repulsive that is?It’s not doing that though and hundreds of millions of people watched it for the premise of “group of random fucks learning to accept each other and their situation”.
>>154290756I watched it for "this is an intriguing mystery about this digital world and i'd like to know more about it and how people are transported into it". I did not watch it for therapy hugboxing.
>>154290338>That dialogue is the entire point of the show!It's got some fucking shit dialogue though. Nobody ever actually fully communicates things. How many fucking episodes did it take for Kinger to actually say what he knows? And how come so many of the characters never had a meaningful conversation with one another?
How come Jax was the only abstraction to get a big 'mental health recovery' tent?
>>154290392The moral of the story is that troons are mentally ill and they should be put in looney bins
>>154290760>I watched it for "this is an intriguing mystery [...]"I'm sorry you had to learn you were a sucker in this way.
If anyone's in need of a cultural mouthwash that's about simulacrum there's dark city, soma, prey, the Trueman show, OneShot, I mean if you haven't died of acute radiation poisoning by watching the entire show of tadc yet. And there's matrix 1 obviously.
>>154290760It has been therapy hugboxing for almost the entire series. You were expecting the stream of feces emitting from a butt to turn to chocolate and vanilla when you had no reason to think it would
I just watched the ending of TADC and it was kinda what I predicted.I'm still disappointed that this show went they way it did. Like >>154290760 said, I enjoyed the first few episodes because I wanted them to slowly uncover the truth of their digital world and find out who is behind the Circus and who is putting these people inside this world. But as the story progressed, it became less about escaping the Circus and the mystery of it, and instead became about the characters "accepting their fate" and living "through the power of friendship". I would've preferred if the show went more into the mystery adventure side of things, rather than the social hugboxing.
>>154290767Caine used to make a hole and throw them in it. No Caine, no hole.
>>154290775forgot Brazil
>>154289162>And I believe that if you go into it with the idea that it's going to be this grand adventure of them digging into the code and returning to reality, digimon-style, you're going to be disappointed.Glitch should go back and completely redo the start of the show for the first 3 or so chapters then because that's exactly what got advertised and what hooked people in.It can even still end in "there was never a possible escape, time to deal with it" ending, but this fucking hard pivot into "Uhmm, ackshually this was always just a character study, but only for Jax not anyone else that'll get their shit resolved offscreen, and also forget about any sort of plotline we've been leading up to for 8 episodes because they didn't matter this isn't about that" is completely absurd and insulting to the fanbase's intelligence and ability to remember that things happened that then went nowhere.Though seeing how many of those fans seem perfectly fine with getting this, I guess there wasn't much intelligence to insult there. This show got entirely by on references to better written works to fool the audience into thinking this was gonna have intelligent writing. "Oh it'll totally be like I Have No Mouth And I Must Scream". "Oh it'll totally be like the Truman Show". "Oh it'll totally be like SOMA". Nope, have Jax and Jax's depression.
>>154289667Since when do suicide victims turn into giant rampaging animals?
>>154290807What things happened that went nowhere?
>>154290813>>154290818this entire thead is just faggots like these 2 replying to people with dumb shit like this
>>154290807if they made I have no mouth and I must scream it'd be called "I have no mouth and I must gargle on feminine penises".
>>154290813>what is a metaphor
>>154290786Sure but I mean after he came back, or during the time when everyone was learning to control their admin powers. Everyone else gets thrown in the weird aquarium thing while Jax is the only one who got a place to himself.
>>154289667Not according to the cast
>tfw robin williams abstracted
>Is C&A still around? When it was, what did they make?>What's stopping the server holding the Digital Circus from being destroyed or shut off, killing everyone >What happened to Jax and Ragatha's mothers>How are humans holding up 9 years later?>Would the blue AI being split create its own being?>How did Caine escape the void?>Can Abstractions be undone?All unanswered. Thanks Gooseworx.
>>154289111They did the brain scan for dispensary money, and in Jax's case, also for a 40 oz and scratch offs
>>154290841>according to the castYou realize that's one of the voice actors' opinions right? Unless Goose said it, that is just an opinion of what he thinks abstraction is.
Jax deserved WORSE than what happened to him
>>154290852I'd trust the opinion of the cast more than yours
>>154290833Caine asked if he could help, Pomni told him not at the moment, and then Jax went to the aquarium with the rest of them
They shoulda put Bubble on the mural.
>>154290863His opinion holds no additional merit, so I don't know what your point was to even reply to me with that screenshot in the first place. You can believe whatever opinion you want.
>>154290848What series meet your absurdly high criteria? You know most sci fi doesn’t answer every possible permutation of every question and character, right? It’s a story being told.
>>154290818Gummigoo's entire character.Caine mind controlling everyone (far as can be told, Gangle is STILL dependent on her masks to dictate her mood and Kinger is still crazy).Caine lying to everyone and nobody questioning the things he says anymore (if he lied about such an important thing, who knows what else he could have lied about).Why abstractions are a thing at all and whether they're curable or not with work.Why Pomni is able to enter Jax's mindscape by touching him but Kinger didn't enter Queenie's when he did the same.Why everyone in the first group abstracted, including Kinger's own wife.Even basic shit related to the only character that mattered, Jax, goes completely unaddressed. What was up with the corn? What was up with his tail? The corn pops out of nowhere and for no reason, nobody ever uses the corn to control Jax and it's not an element that explains his past. The tail has no significance at all, it just randomly gets mentioned and given a moment of importance for no reason.This fucking show doesn't understand the most basic and fundamental principle of writing, hell, not writing, of reality. Setup > Delivery. Causes > Consequences. It simply can't do it. Shit happens just because, then everyone just forgets it, and if you dare point it out there's a dozen cocksuckers like you to get offended on behalf of writing that doesn't respect you.
>>154290877>absurdly high criteria>Just the basic ass questions this story poses for the audience.
>>154290886Many of these were either answered or not important. You’re creating arbitrary standards
>>154290886Don't even bother replying to him, bro. He's just a troll who will give you non-answers like this >>154290895. This thread is full of these fags.
>>154290891None of those are being posed to the audience, and you didn’t answer the question.
>>154290671The most confusing shot in the finale. It’s a flashback, but is poorly presented and doesn’t really need to even be where it is, so people think this is Caine repairing the abstracted characters.
>>154290877Why do finalefags act like this is the first piece of fiction that's ever been consumed?
>>154290901Yeah bro, your ChatGPT list of random bullshit is really important, they should have spent 17 hours in the finale doing all of that>>154290922Why can’t you answer the question?
>>154288223>>154290217They explain it if you pay attention.Zooble and Pomni were urban explorers who went inside the closed C&A building. Ragatha was a realtor showing off the C&A building. Jax was a homeless guy who slept in the C&A building. Kinger was an employee at the company before it closed.Literally only Gangle is left unexplained.
>>154290841The voice actors were told so little about the series that they’ve openly stated how they would have voiced the characters differently in early episodes if they knew the direction of their character later. Goose kept everything close to the chest and the VAs just guess on what is happening like everyone else
>>154290929>ZoobleWhen did they explain she's an urban explorer?
>>154290901Holy fuck, every goddamn conversation going on in every TADC thread right now is just>Hey, what happened about all those things that didn't get addressed though?>UHMM, THINGS LIKE WHAT, HUH?? THINGS LIKE WHAT??>Well, like [Presents long list of things that have gone unanswered that the show pretended were big deals].>THEY DON'T FUCKING MATTER, OKAY?? AND IF YOU EVER DARE MENTION THEM AGAIN, IT'S ONLY BECAUSE YOU'RE A PIECE OF SHIT FAKE FAN, YOU'RE A MEDIA ILLITERATE MORON, YOU'RE A TRANSPHOBIC PIECE OF SHITWhere did all these fucking shit consumers with zero standards come from? What the fuck even happened in the ending that they could possibly think was worth all this set up?? NOTHING happened, it was Pomni talking to a corpse for 40 minutes before everyone else decides to just let everything else slide!
>>154290886>Why abstractions are a thing at all and whether they're curable or not with work.I honestly thought for a minute that pomni was actually gonna pull jax out of his abstraction and for the remainder of the episode to deal with the implications of being able to do that, but nope.
>>154290942She talks about it with Pomni at the bar in Episode 5.
>>154290929I do wonder how gangle got in there though. From how she's described, she seemed generally pretty timid, not the type who would explore abandoned buildings. Plus it's not really made clear how long it was after her accident that she got pulled in.
>>154290945Are you okay?
>>154290925>Why can’t you answer the question?Because it wasn't addressed to me
>>154290942When Pomni is talking about her exploration videos, Zooble said they used to do that too, they just didn't record/post them.
>>154290962You're fucking pathetic dude.
>>154290962He has unironic real autism, just ignore it
>>154290945You seem like a level-headed person and you're right. Ignore the troll.
>>154290945>Where did all these fucking shit consumers with zero standards come from?We're living in an era where an entire generation has been raised on nothing but marvel slop and Disney live action remakes, expecting them to have any ability to think critically about art is basically ableism
>>154290972kek
>>154290945It's literally just schadenfreude, they're baiting to get a rise out of you
>>154290744Responding to text on a screen is not social interaction. Otherwise we could consider AI girlfriends to be valid forms of romance.
>>154290848>Is C&A still around? Probably not, considering Suzie bought their locale then subsequently abandoned it.>When it was, what did they make?Entertainment AI that was clearly far too ahead of its time.>What's stopping the server holding the Digital Circus from being destroyed or shut off, killing everyone Who knows? If it happens, it's not like any of them will be able to react.>What happened to Jax and Ragatha's mothersUnclear, but Leeroy wasn't arrested for murder nor killed himself, so probably nothing important.>How are humans holding up 9 years later?We saw them in the ending. They're alive.>Would the blue AI being split create its own being?Abel probably never wanted to be eaten to begin with, but Caine putting it in a box tells us it's inert on its own for now.>How did Caine escape the void?He brute forced it.>Can Abstractions be undone?Nah.
>First watch>Felt bad that Jax was left abstracted>Second watch>Felt bad that Jax was left abstracted (but only because Pomni wants to keep him around for some reason)>Third watch>Jax deserved it lol
>>154291008It is a social interaction even if all forms of social interaction are not equal, you rube. Your false dichotomy sucks.
I think the ending was good
>>154291018>Wasn't on "Jax deserved it" several episodes ago
>>154291018How much time passed between your viewings and how much weed were you on?
>>154290945You are correct
I like that Jax wasn't brought back at least
>>154290853Jax should've "fucked" her frogussy
>>154288816It's ok when tron legacy does it
They should’ve all whooped Jax’s ass right here
>>154290848Oh look, another persoon too retarded to understand a children's cartoon.
I liked Caine's arc more than Jax's. What teared me up more was the Moon telling Caine she still loved him.
>>154290776It really wasn't. Previous whining was in episodes like They All Get Guns where they all got guns, then fucking shot each other in elaborately choreographed fight scenes.>>154290886>This fucking show doesn't understand the most basic and fundamental principle of writing, Setup > DeliveryIt used to. The payoff for the breath holding in Episode 3 was fantastic. As late as the beach episode they were doing cute foreshadowing like Pomni uncovering a mystery treasure that turned out to be empty
>>154291059>persoonGood morning saar!
>>154287958>God Awful Fucking Endingfitting for a god awful show
Who is the most underappreciated character?
>>154291166kinger
>>154291166The fudge
>>154291106>It used to. The payoff for the breath holding in Episode 3 was fantastic. As late as the beach episode they were doing cute foreshadowing like Pomni uncovering a mystery treasure that turned out to be emptyYou're actually completely right about this and you've clarified in my mind how I ever got into this show and why I'm feeling down about how it forgot it's roots.I feel like when I dropped Helluva Boss. It started with the premise of silly asshole imps going on assassination missions and fucking shit up in funny ways. Then it slowly became more and more about relationship drama and suddenly it was all serious business and hurt feelings. The only difference is that Helluva was a gradual transition that let me just slowly realize that shit wasn't for me anymore, while TADC just dropped it all at once on my head with an ending that says nothing I cared for actually mattered and I shouldn't have cared.
>>154288991You hate it? Well congratulations, its over
I feel like a huge fag for thinking Leeroy is attractive but not Jax
>>154291166I'd say Kinger since I like him the most but I think everyone likes Kinger so you can't call him underappreciated.Maybe bubble for me, every time they popped up was entertaining.
>>154288991I don't even know what was the point about stagnant lifes. How are them becoming gods of the digital world able to create endless worlds and people more stagnant than their irl counterparts just working 9 to 5s?
>>154291166Zooble
So Pomni's mind is just built different and that's why she never abstracted, used conjuration in the beginning and had to play a psychologist for the rest of them while maintaining her own sanity?
>>154291232"Stagnancy" was never the point? Irrelevance was.
>>154291242Yes, she’s the Naruto of GLITCH
>>154288973>If Cain can connect with Internet nowThe connection was only temporary, the signal lost strength as he was browsing their social media pages and then was cut. I can't figure out what that means though, it was a cafe's free wifi, and the hardware they're on (90s era) shouldn't even have wireless capability, on top of both locations presumably being static.
I expected a sequel hook but the way it ended there doesn't seem to be a room for one? They actually won't make a sequel?
>>154287958To those of you who watched both: Ultimately, do you think this or Murder Drones got the better ending?
>>154291242Yeah pretty much
>>154291274The ending of murder drones was better relative to the previous episodes in the series, but murder drones as a whole was just worse so TADC was better
>>154291242Protagonist power
They had an anime episode. What's stopping them from recreating an anime world and just living in it. Or any type of movie or tv show
What did we learn in this episode that we didn't know before? It confirmed that they are all gender fluid and person of color, was that the entire point?
>>154291242Pomni's mind is built different because she can conjure from the very start. The reason she doesn't abstract is that she just flat out doesn't have enough depth as a character to have any guilts, insecurities or personal bad moments that would make her abstract.Kinger's mind is built different because no matter what happens to him, and what happens to him is like 10 times worse than what happens to anyone else, both in what he should feel guilty about and who he's lost, it isn't enough to make him abstract.
>Jax almost abstracting was one of the coolest scenes in the entire show>When he finally abstracts, it's off screenCome the fuck on. It's like they wanted us to hate the finale.
To be honest, Jax's transition seemed sudden and like a last-minute decision. I mean, I don't think the creators intended to make him trans from the beginning. Perhaps they made him trans because he was the most popular character. I thought Zooble was supposed to be the one with the trans coding.
Jax is a bad character and everyone constantly has extreme reactions to anything he does like hes the most important person in the universe
>>154291293Where do you think Gangle's gonna reside from now on
>>154291213>I feel like when I dropped Helluva Boss. It started silly then it slowly became more and more about relationship drama and hurt feelingslooks like goose found one way to be a woman
How do we feel about this?
>>154291298>Pomni is a hapa foid irl living an easy life that's why she didn't abstract>Kinger went through hell but didn't abstract because he's a white male irlRedpilled
"The Amazing Digital Circus" is what "Pantheon" would look like if every brainscanned character was overwhelmed by emotions and had the mental fortitude of a child.Except Kinger who had to be gimped by the AI to stop him from immediately taking control of the situation.Weaksauce series. Rewatch Pantheon instead.
>>154291324Why should I care?
>>154291273The Blue AI/ Abel could be released and fuck shit up, C&A could start sending people into the circus to try and research or monopolize it, figuring out how to cure abstractions, showing AI coexist with the humans, they could probably make a sequel if they wanted
>>154291324The series is, and always was, cult propaganda. We get it. Now shut up so we can Memoryhole it from history.
>>154291324Estrogen induced mania.
>>154291302For the last time, Jax didn't troon out. He's just a repressed, self-hating, crossdressing faggot like most of you on this site
>>154291304>like hes the most important person in the universeits almost lke gooseworx said him and Pomni are the main characters
>>154290005How come everything there is not looted yet by the troubled youth in US
>>154291299I was expecting a Kevin Levin transformation desuhttps://youtu.be/7x9yA61CEC0
>>154291324I think Goose is a really weird and confused person who had no idea what she was trying to do with this character
>>154291355How come the power hasn't been cut to the building?
I don't get it does. Everyone is everyone happy Jax is dead because he wasn't being toxically positive and delusional?In the end he was right, none of them were real, just code that can be scrambled and only resembles real people.In that sense he was the most logical one there. The only time the other characters sympathize with each other is through the context of escaping and returning to "their" human lives.He didn't believe it, therefore he didn't play along. He was also mean to keep others at a distance, which was also a logical choice because they took every chance to emasculate him and dig at his wounds. (they being Ragatha, Zooble, and Gangle)That and the fact no one talks about the co-dependent grooming shit with Gangle and Zooble. Weird no one complains about Zooble, all she does is complain and brood thinking the world with change for her. She promotes learned helplessness unless someone else plans an escape or at the prospect of sex. Apathetic, hedonistic, and only displays empathy through platitudes to ingratiate herself with other downers, for social capital and sex, kind of like a discord groomer.In that way, she's probably Goose's closest self insert.
>>154291350He us a regular at the troon bar of Zooble, if he didn't cut his dick yet atm it is just a matter of time before he is groomed into it
>>154291304Completely, objectively true.Jax is a big nothingburger of a character that this show is pretending could carry the entirety of it on his back. Every character is tuned to think whatever Jax is doing at any moment is the most important thing going on, stupid and meaningless as it might be. Jax's own character arc is pretty much just entirely the result of him overreacting once, seeing everyone completely overreact to anything he does in response, then reacting himself in even worse ways. This show is pretending like Nelson was the most villainous and hardcore character in the Simpsons.
>>154291324Looks like xe gets fucked hard by large men
>>154291361He knew exactly what he wanted to do. See >>154291346
>>154291375You’re willingly misreading a pretty basic one-dimensional douchebag character
>>154291242Wasn't it also luck with the timing and all of the pieces (other characters) on the board?Kinger was isolated for a long time which hurt his mental health, Ragatha was alone with Kinger for a while and spent years meeting and trying to connect with others and dealing with their abstractions, etc. Pomni arrived and it's like she was solving the mystery and puzzle of this world. And when something bad happened she didn't have to spend years just living out the same day again and again. Something else plot-relevant showed up right after. Like she didn't have time to get depressed about Jax telling her that he wouldn't care if she abstracted after thinking they were friends because then they thought they were going to all escape and worked together.Pomni isn't really special, she just made good choices. She didn't isolate herself, she made more than one friend/connection, she talked about her feelings, and she was lucky that there were so many people around her who she could talk to and learn from.If Jax didn't run away from his negative feelings and tried to forgive himself and lasted like one more day he could've got the good ending where Cain came back and was suddenly nice and let everyone do what they want. He was so close.
>>154291242>So Pomni's mind is just built different and that's why she never abstracted, used conjuration in the beginning and had to play a psychologist for the rest of them while maintaining her own sanity?Yes. Pomni has been the 'saviour' from the start. Remember the Passover imagery from the end of the pilot which likened Pomni to Jesus? She's meant to be the saviour.
So Zomble has the ability have sex (masturbate?) at the end, does that mean there is still a chance of Pomni farting on my face?
>>154291274Murder Drones, easily. The spectacle was fantastic and I was satisfied with how everything turned out. The creators clearly just wanted to make dumb fun and they succeeded.TADC was consistently better and deeper before but none of that depth was explored in the finale. A bad ending can sink a work and if MD ends up regarded as the better show in retrospect, that's fucking hilarious. It's just so silly in comparison
>>154291299If they showed him abstracting wouldn't it just be a repeat of this scene. Maybe it felt too redundant. Having it offscreen and seeing him scurrying around and having the delayed realization that it's Jax fills me with more dread. Like it's the worst thing that can happen to you and it's just there in a mundane way. The universe really doesn't care about you kind of thing.
wait so is amanda hufford saying hes trans canon confirmation lmfao
>>154291463I’d say it’s only canon if Goose says it.
>>154291472Well Goose just said it
>>154291324She must feel so relieved this show is over
>>154291463ISN'T SHE LOVELY
>>154291490ISNT SHE WONDERRRFULLL
>>154291484>SHE
>>154291352Main character generally means the POV character not “character everyone treats like Homer Simpson treats Poochie unironically”
>>154291463VAs dont write the show
>>154289855Someone with your mental health really shouldn't be talking about delusions (you spell it with one L).
>>154291668>YOU
>>154291375It’s more comforting to wax poetic about how his misfortune earns his fate than to be like damn, that sure was a bittersweet story about a crazy situation
>>154288391>If it was gonna be good enough for theatersBeing in theaters isn't exactly a high bar.
Ending should have been pic
