>an hour of therapy and cryingRemember when cartoons were actually good? Remember Swat Kats, Pirates of Dark Water and Aladdin? Like, actually CARTOONS
>I HATE EMOTIONS I HATE DRAMA We get it dude, you're very tough and cool and manly and whatever. Shut the fuck up.
>>154288801Don't pretend like this trend of seeing characters hugging and crying and talking about their feelings is not recentYou'd never see this in the pre-2010 era
>>154288696>Remember Swat Kats, Pirates of Dark Water and Aladdin?TADC and it's ilk are the product of kids who DON'T remember those cartoons. And if they do, they were told they were BAD ACTUALLY by a Youtuber. The cartoons they grew up on were shit like post season 3 Adventure Time, that one horse cartoon, and Steven fucking Universe.
>>154288825Yeah because chuds insisted it be confined to soap operas
>>154288801I watch cartoons to laugh, If I don't laugh while watching a cartoon then it's a bad cartoon
>>154288855Why does everything need to be funny all the time?
>>154288888I like laughing
>>154288888Proverbs 17:22 — “A joyful heart is good medicine, but a crushed spirit dries up the bones.”
>>154288934>quoting the Bible on notoriously Atheist /co/Bold move.
They really tricked you into watching an entire series of just therapy because the (badly voiced, generic, uninteresting) Clowngirl happens to have a cute design.
>>154288696>Remember when cartoons were actually good? Remember [cartoons that weren't made by castration cultists]?Yeah, too bad those don't get artificially boosted in the algorithm.
What about that new show aabout the girl with the yellow overalls?
>>154288952>They really tricked youNo, the people who watched past the first half of the pilot are just natural-born suckers. Another of those born every minute, you know...
>>154288696>Pirates of Dark WaterI remember seething for over 20 years about how it never actually finished, yes
>>154288825It's been happening since the 90s with the Simpsons anon, do you not remember early season stuff? There's always been a place for that. You can argue it's excessive now, sure, but it existing isn't a bad thing
>>154288949I can't believe atheists still exist in 2026How retarded do you have to be to believe the universe popped into existence from nothing?
>>154289099>we don't know why the universe exists, therefore this book of fairy tales written by ancient goat-fucking sandniggers is trueYou can't handle reality. It's that simple. You'd rather believe in an obvious fucking lie than admit you don't know the answer and never will.
>>154288801Emotions aren't the problem, it's the way they're presented which sucks complete dickTADC is evidently written by someone who has little emotional experience or depth of feeling, which results in a lot of mild and unrealistic "tug-at-the-heartstrings" situations in which the characters just say everything out loud in a very autistic, manner of fact way. It is not the scenery or the plot which serves as a vehicle for these feelings (not even the characters themselves, as they have no personality beyond 2 or 3 surface level traits) the show just deadass tells you if someone is sad or angry because if it didn't, it just wouldn't even be apparent as to what the fuck is even going on.It's a larger problem that TADC suffers from throughout, which is a lack of intentionality in terms of the overall plot or the world or the themes that it explores. It's egregiously "tell, not show" which does start to make sense when you consider the average viewer to be a child/manchild.Another issue is the complete lack of stakes that would in other settings, be dependent on the drama. With the mindscan reveal, the premise of the entire show becomes a moot point. Which is why the ending is empty wish fulfillment and embracing the simulation/the meaningless void of hyperreality. It's very bitterly postmodernist in that sense, but I sense that the irony is lost on Goose.
>>154288888When I find myself in times of trouble, Tom and Jerry come to me
>>154288888Cause existence is a joke
>>154289145Yeah, atheists really can't handle the reality of God's existenceThey'd rather masturbate all day watching lesbian porn than aknowledge that their sins are going to send them to gehenna
>>154289224p much
>>154289145>>we don't know why the universe existsWe do know. God created it. Hence why we should worship him.
>>154288825>You'd never see this in the pre-2010 erahttps://youtu.be/YLul1BLMVKw?si=MU8YXaQdyZWAxWmp&t=150
>>154288696>>an hour of therapy and cryingwouldnt be a problem in a nortubel cartoon
>>154288696>Swat KatsI too remember when good cartoons were force to end because Billionaire Ted couldn't stop getting boners from looking at Callie.
>>154288825Hey Arnold quite literally has a whole episode dedicated to therapy and it's considered the best episode of the show
>>154289339I see no hugging or crying or therapy session
>>154289434>historical revisionismok
I want to stick my dick in callie briggs and pomni at the same time and there's nothing you faggots can do about it
>>154288696>remember when cartoons were really goodoh you mean like when don bluth showed dark themes for kids and wasn't patronizing about it? yeah.>>154288825>you'd never see this pre-2010pic related
Steven's Digital Circus Universe
>>154288696This show is highly satanic because it was made by a trannysexualised
was this Cooper singing?
>>154289636You don't need Lord Satan to be a self-destrucive troon.
ok im like 10 minutes in WHEN DOES THE THERAPY STOP!!!!!!???
some of you actually paid to see this shit in a theater? 500 transmen sat there watching this shit, silent as a crypt... except for the dilation screams of course
>>154289700life's complicated ok????
>>154289700There will be an actually interesting sequence. Then the rest of it is visuals and more therapy.
>>154289784>>154289824a little on the nose here, Coop...
>>154289574literally all of them serve the purpose of comedy, not therapy try again tranny
>>154289151>It's egregiously "tell, not show"I actually find it incredible how a full quarter of the episode we're just watching Jax's crotch as he stares at it in Ribbit's bed as he just TELLS his entire fucking story without the perspective or animation ever changing, and somehow everyone is ok with this. This famous up and coming indie animation really did just spend a significant part of it's runtime and right in the middle looking at one single model from an awkward angle as it narrated.
>>154288855Watch Smiling Friends on repeat then
>>154288801No one ever complains about anime that does this, maybe it’s because Japanese writers actually know how to write emotional scenes and drama unlike cartoon autists.
>>154289875>Japanese writers actually know how to write emotional scenes and drama unlike cartoon autistsNah. It's literally the same forced melodrama. You're just a weeb.
please tell me this is the bad ending
>>154289945Evangelion is renown across the entire world and beloved by multiple generations, this shit won’t even survive 2 decades before fading into obscurity.
>>154289875Let's not go crazy, 90% of japanese anime writers don't know how to do emotional. It's just crazy that Goose's best fucking idea of how to do it was to imitate the famously bad nips by dumping all of Jax's backstory through a flashback after he dies, and somehow pulling it off even worse.
>>154289784for atheists, yes
>>154289959>EvangelionPseudslop just like TADC. At least Evangelion knows it's just pretending to be deep.
>>154289848cope
>>154289959Not even a fair comparison, even though I agree with you.
>>154289959okay buddyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6zOWmY999s
>>154290071https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9_GRvxOM38
My video glitched and went black during Jax's talk with Ribbit and I thought it was artistic intent, when I refreshed the video and found it wasn't and it had actual video I was like "wow I really didn't miss much" cause it was just Jax monologuing about how he pushed his mom for five minutes with nothing else going on. For a 3d medium Goose really doesn't like taking advantage of his craft.
>>154288696Wow, you are gay
>>154288825damn, you're really cool
>>154290098Half the episode is legitimately just watching Jax talking while the camera assumes the most dogshit angles ever put into animation.Somehow I'm the entitled on for saying this is shit.
>>154290090This made me go listen to Komm Süsser Tod again, thanks.>>154290098Did you notice that during that entire first person sequence, when he opened up to Ribbit the camera started panning into 3rd person? It struck me as him dissociating while reliving it.
>>154288696You're lying to yourself thinking this wasn't going to happen on an indie pretentious cartoon.I wasn't bothered by that, but the whitewasing Jax bing a horrible person just because he was STRONGLY IMPLIED to be trans does really pisses me off
>>154289875Only difference is that all anime characters are underaged so you expect them to be cringe compared to a bunch of people in their 20s and 30s.
>enjoyed it>Laughing as "critics" and contrarians knock it down>will watch it several times more>probably with some snacksI love knowing that someone enjoying something pisses off the worst subspecies of human
>>154290186Lol, go back to your hugbox
>>154290179You are wrong
>>154290186You are so cool and special and smart, you want some butt pats, maybe I should stick my finger in your ass?
>>154290186Based enjoyer. It wasn't my favorite episode but overall I enjoyed it and the series as a whole. I'll probably watch it again too.
>>154289151>>154289849There's nothing inherently wrong with telling instead of showing. The idea of "show don't tell rules all" is basically a baby's first writing technique. If you've been witness to reality for even a few years, you should know that when people speak to one another, they have a tendency to be rather clear with what they're thinking.In reality, it's pretty unusual to for example "brood and not necessarily be explicit". Which makes sense, what with humans being societal creatures.
>>154290211Lol, you lost
>>154290218There's a time and place in a narrative to have characters talk but if your narrative is so much of characters just announcing how they feel you've done something wrong
>>154290218>>/Reddit/
>>154290208maybe you should stick a barrel in your mouth?
>>154290230Nope. If you feel this way, you have become stuck in the thinking that "media must have distinct rules"
>>154290218Anon, half the fucking episode is telling not showing. At that point, why is it even an animation? For fuck's sake, episodes 2 to 5 have much better animation and variety of scenes than the finale.
Why does this show bring chrsitcucks in these threads?Is it cause it's made by a troon so they gravitate to the chance to groom kids?
>>154290186>Spot the redditor
>>154290241Maybe you should sneed.>>154290243I think it's more I'm stuck in the idea that "media should not suck". But if his goal was to subvert that expectation then bravo.
>>154290245Most of the series has been characters bottling up, so I can understand "actually speaking" being how it ends. Granted, there's been a lot of speaking throughout the show, but unsurprisingly most of the characters who had moments of talking didn't talk so much in this episode about issues.
>>154289959Amusingly, Evangelion features a lot of openly talking about problems.
>>154290249Christianity is the path to everlasting life in paradise.
>>154290270i sneeded more in my 20s than you will in your entire lifetime and i still have more to live for because i can actually enjoy good animated shows
>>154290289Didn't ask, pedo.Don't reply to me ever again.
>>154290296Lol, you are such a sensitive tard
>>154290296One of the craziest projections I've ever witnessed
>>154290275>Most of the series has been characters bottling up,It's not though. The only bottling up was Jax, and even then he never actually shut the fuck up and his entire character was all but spelled out by episode 7. Everyone else has been CONSTANTLY pouring their hearts out over and over at the slightest provocation. This wasn't the moment to have one extra large talk, this was the moment to actually resolve the story's fucking plotlines. And then it didn't, because it decided the only thing that ever mattered was Jax.
>>154290293Pic unrelated of course.
Can someone explain to me what was up with the awkwardly long scene where Pomni and Ragatha held eye contact while walking away from each other. Were they really implying a lesbian connection or something? What the fuck was that?
This show sucks ass.
>>154289151>Emotions aren't the problemYes they are. The only emotions that are needed are hatred, anger and the pleasure of destroying an enemy.
>>154288696Different genres and demographics and creative vision. Do YOU remember cartoons? Because you seem to have a child's mindset and I'm not sure what you're mentally or chronologically capable of recollecting. This is like complaining teen titans isn't like spongebob isn't like MLaaTR isn't like g i joe isn't like looney tunes isn't like disney propaganda war cartoons.
>>154290453>The only emotions that are needed are hatred, anger and the pleasure of destroying an enemy.Jax I thought you died.
>>154290480Evil never dies.
The Good Place for zoomers
>>154288801I've seen 6th graders more mature than GooserTrannyWoox https://youtu.be/M8pbcAmkbmg?list=PLBFAz2QSuZJMOGhscMTg_24bVsNpDaQ82&t=1207I'VE SEEN ***PARODIES*** WITH BETTER DRAMA AND EMOTIONS THAN YOUR UTTER DOGSHITGO BACK TO SCHOOL AND LEARN TO WRITE YOU FUCKING TALENTLESS HACK.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24xhYLbV1I0&list=PLCVuwQ1eXVCVlp5anFTKGFZ94iI34HB7k&index=8I'VE COINCIDENTALLY ALSO SEEN KIDS WHO NEVER WENT TO SCHOOL WHO HAVE BETTER SOCIAL SKILLS THAN YOUThank God Digital Circus only took 2 years to make & watch, imagine if you wasted 20 years or heaven forbid 70 years like the Dr Who fandom. British piece of shit who can't pronounce their own words.>>154290186Go take out the trash, son. Then go ask your mother for an allowance to allow you to post on the internet your underage talentless opinions.
>>154289434Yeah, because it was one episode. As in, not the norm. As in, not every single episode.
>>154290479*SMASHES YOUR HEAD IN*LOOK AT IT,LOOK ATT ITTTTT WHAT DID YOUR FUCKING PARENTS TEACH YOU?GO WATCH 90s and 2000s CARTOONSGO LISTEN TO WHAT A REAL VOICE ACTOR WHO ISN'T JUST USING HIS NORMAL VOICE AND HIS DOGSHIT ANIME DUBBING IMPRESSIONISM IS LIKE https://youtu.be/M8pbcAmkbmg?list=PLBFAz2QSuZJMOGhscMTg_24bVsNpDaQ82&t=1207Go ahead, gen-Zombie. GO AHEAD.There's a reason non-zoomers call you gen-Zer/Zombies. There's a reason you zoomers have to STEAL everything instead of being original and talented. ANd for the millionth fucking time... gen-X and millennials are not baby boomers, baby boomers were born in the 50s and most of them are dead or about to die. You are dumb as fuck and your grades and your dogshit parents yelling at your teachers for giving you a bad grade are to blame. Fuck your parents and fuck you. Generation of losers. I'm glad you're not breeding. You'd ruin the child even harder than your current dogshit parents are doing now.ANd most of you gen-zers are brown or worse ... mixbreeds. Go back to China & India where you belong, man. You're more worthy of cringe than the Homestuck and Sonic fandom and you don't even realize it yet.
>>154290380>Were they really implying a lesbian connection or something?Wouldn't surprise me, knowing the castration cult share a generally positive friend-enemy distinction with the sodomy and sapphism cults, enough that they all share a "holy" month celebrating a time in the late 1960s when a gang of sodomites attacked a squad of Law Enforcers.
>>154288696you can do a therapy and crying show but the characters just have no goals or arcs in this show it just feels pointless and not in a good way
>>154288696>hah we're all black women!Just why?
>>154291047Uh?
>>154290623Keep seething, schizofaggot
>literally nothing happensAt least I didn't pay for this shit
>>154291098IKR, how could people be retarded enough to pay for a movie after it's already been leaked on here for free?
>>154290287Idk but it feels in a way more real and rough in Eva and Idk why. Maybe because the characters are better developed? Idk.
>>154288696>an hour of therapySounds like you don't know or go to therapy.
>>154290004I agree but that's the truth for all media, 90% of all media is bad, TADC was supposed to be in the 10%. >>154289945>>154289875Anime has its fair share of bad melodrama but also a lot of fantastic emotional scenes as well. NGE is a nice example but I would also use an even bigger classic like Rose of Versailles or Ashita no joe, stories with emotional impacted that have lasted through generations.
>>154291400What do you fags do there other than sobbing and talking about your weird feelings about your mother
>>154290080>people are still talking about best girls from the 90s Will people mention Pomni in 30 years?
>>154288696>Remember when cartoons were actually good?Cartoons were never good. Grow up and get a job and stop dressing like a faggot.
>>154290623>complaining about zoomers>posting digital garbage animation instead of cel animationYou are a dumb zoomer yourself lol
You fags watched past the pilot?
>>154291425>can't self reflect or look for the cause of your problems
>>154291443Probably.
>>154291466episodes 2-8 were gold. no regrets
It's officialhttps://bsky.app/profile/gooseworx.bsky.social/post/3moprcfwqfs2a
>>154291185It's a free show and people still give money to Glitch for merch. They give money because they wantto support the show, not because it's a precondition to watch it. Thus, the number of paying customers can't be affected by piracy. They were always gonna go watch the movie because it's just another part of supporting the show.
>>154291611> is transfem > no daddy > evil mama > suicidal > fetish for assaulting girls when wearing a dress > violent misogynist > lives life irl cis is this the worst trans rep of all time lmfao
>>154291611Official that Jax is a troon? Yes. That either Ragatha and Pomni are lesbians? No. It's just a troon being perverted.
Jax is trans
>>154290052Nge has characters with more depth than any of the Digital circus ones.>>154289959True, in a few years people will just post porn. The discussions won't last. >>154291443If TADC has been released back in the 00s maybe, but now everything gets forgotten lighting fast so not a chance.
>>154291611Props to her for dumping gasoline on her audience’s biggest trash fire
>>154289700They should never date Cimmerians.
ragatha is lesbian but pomni is bi
>>154291678she's not even bi, just like Gangle woudn't fuck Jax if Zooble died. Its just his headcanon, since he didn't know shit about Gummigoo and Pomni
>>154291611>and push them to suicide.I wish pushing someone to suicide irl was as easy as just not talking to them anymore, there are a lot of people that need killing and this would make it super easy.
>>154288696"Crying Breakfast Friends"-ass finale
>>154291611The series is, and always was, cult propaganda. We get it, now shut up so we can Memoryhole it from history.
>>154291692oh wait youre right jax had no idea
>>154288801>>I HATE EMOTIONS I HATE DRAMAThis but unironically.
>>154290296Oh it’s opposite day today
The Amazing Digital Circus had a perfectly fine finale, but I do agree we could've done with some more one-off adventures before getting to the endgame.
>>154291987What's her tax policy?
>>154291824Just openly commit murder bro. Turn life into an adventure. Who cares if the cops start chasing you?
>>154291987Would she stop sending weapons to Israel?
WAITER MORE "LOOSE ENDS AND PLOT HOLES" PLEASE! AND CAN I GET ANOTHER MISPLACED SIDE OF "MILLENNIAL GAME REFERENCES"? THE LADY WOULD ALSO LIKE ANOTHER PLATE OF MEANINGLESS 4TH WALLS, EXTRA PADDING WITH REUSED FOOTAGE AS THE TOPPINGS THIS TIME.
>>154291987What's her Jax policy?
>>154292057Prison ass-rape adventure gets boring fast
>>154292069I'M SORRY, WAITER. I'D HATE TO HAVE THE CHEF MAKE A NEW ONE, BUT CAN YOU TAKE THE "MILLENNIAL GAME REFERENCES" BACK AND HAVE HIM MAKE IT A LITTLE LESS RICH?
>>154288696OP this show is award bait. They want to win an animation award for this OP. Literally award bait the cartoon. Makes me wanna puke.
>ADN THEN RIBBIT WHO COULDNT LIVE WITHOUT JAX PAYING ATTENTION TO HER KILLED HERSELF AND THEN JAX FELT REALLY SAD ABOUT IT Genuinely, unironically, sincerely one of the worst written things I've ever seen.
>>154288696I stopped caring about the plot when I realized the later episodes of TADC characters mostly interact with their designed partners Pomni: Jax and Ragatha Ragatha: Pomni Kinger and JaxJax: Pomni and Ragatha Kinger: Ragatha and PomniZooble: Gangle Gangle: Zooble and Jax Also only Pomni realizing Kinger is sane with the bucket on pisses me off
>>154291611It's sad how much he masks how he feels like his main character, but not as sad as masking it specifically so your fans will hate you and your show more. He has some form of shaming fetish, among dozens of other fetishes that is.
>>154288977>castration cultistscatholics ?
>>154292208veterinarians
>>154292208Catholics don't even circumcise, what are you on about?
>>154292208It's amazing how much leftist discourse is just them pretending not to understand things, thus making discourse impossible.
>>154292153>Also only Pomni realizing Kinger is sane with the bucket on pisses me offThis was a pretty early indicator of the writing being absolute dogshit that apparently nobody else realized he's sane in the dark despite spending years with him and Ragatha actually being somewhat close with him. Nobody ever talks about anything important unless Pomni is involved. Pomni herself is also apparently mentally retarded and never thought to ask the people who've been there longer than her about things. People who talk about TADC having good writing sound like Gravity Falls fans talking about how dark and fucked up it is or shounen anime fans wanking themselves over a kids show being their whole personality. It's clearly just a result of people who don't know anything else.
>>154292289How is that post "leftist discourse"? They're not talking about politics at all.
>>154292289All you have to do is ignore them until their rent is due. It's that easy.
>>154288696>Pirates of Dark Water Fuck off with opening old wounds, at leas the circus had a proper ending.
>>154289155Speaking words of wisdom...https://www.myinstants.com/en/instant/tom-scream-57608/
funfact: this is all jax needed btw
>>154289237
>>154288855Ratatouille isn't funny
>>154288696Whatever one feels about this show ( and I feel nothing at all, honestly), this is undeniably the first water cooler cartoon we've had in a long time. It was so because it had a "traditional" release schedule so that fans had time to reflect and discuss the show, and everyone could watch the show because it was free on Youtube. Other studios need to take note of this.
>>154288888It's better than the alternative.
>>154292312What preview does "genital mutilation/transgenderism" fall under? Because it's not anything scientific if that's what you're getting at.
>>154292419>this is undeniably the first water cooler cartoon we've had in a long timeIf your work is entirely underage and unemployed people maybe.
>>154288825It's been around since fucking Euripedes
>>154292312>How is that post "leftist discourse"?Deflection to a perceptively more "right-wing" target than what anyone could put together I was referring to.
>>154292425The person you replied to didn't bring up "genital mutilation/transgenderism" the person they replied to did.
>>154289875>No one ever complains about anime that does this>t. someone who didn't watch early 00's anime
>>154289834
>>154292097>Won't even try to fight the big niggers twice his sizePussy.
>>154292419>this is undeniably the first water cooler cartoon we've had in a long time.Why? Because it eventually came out on Netflix?>>154292451>USE THE PEJORATIVEI mean I didn't for their own benefit but okay "What topic does the "castration cultist" fall under"?
>>154292507>PEJORATIVEIt's not, it's an accurate name for them; and unlike "transsexual" or "transgender," it's not a euphemism, like "woke" is for oikophobes.
>>154292454Nta but probably some of the most impactful anime I've watched were from that era: last exile, texhnolyze, kaleido star and they did drama better than pomni(of course if you mean shit like naruto then I agree)
>>154288696>Swat Kats, Pirates of Dark Water
>>154292145Jax is the writer's self insert and thus it makes sense that he is the most important person in the universe
>>154292562That just means gooseworx is a massive narcissist who thinks someone being denied friendship with them would directly and immediately cause their suicide even when they have other friends.
>>154292543>It's not, it's an accurate name for themSo is "Nigger", Nigger. Descriptions aren't explanations and describing something ultimately doesn't mean jack shit. The "exist" because of politics and politicians. The archaic term for instance was "eunuch", the reason they were created was to be workaholic slaves (because you gotta do something else with the time you can't fuck with)
>>154292575Yeah, even pomni was sacrificing herself for him. I am surprised she didn't
>>154292578>you gotta do something else with the time you can't fuckAnd they subverted that by re-modeling the reproductive organs into ghastly, ghoulish abominations that mock the opposite sex by its attempted resemblance. Or, in the autoandrophile's case, graft some skin from her arm or leg and fashion a cosmetic tube to her now-useless vagina...
>>154292578>And they subverted that by re-modeling the reproductive organs into ghastly, ghoulish abominations that mock the opposite sex by its attempted resemblanceNow THAT is the science part, and they do it with non "identifying" types of people too. The "political" part comes in when you have a specific group of people who lean on a political ideology that tells them this is okay. To actually do that without having the prostate/ovarian cancer that requires it, simply because your group-think told you to feel like that or who supported your mental illness regarded it. One subverts the physicality and the other the mentality. The "science" itself being subverted politically is a whole 'nother ball game too.
>>154292812Yes, I know all that. Are you perhaps confusing me for someone else?
>>154292812meant for:>>154292649
>>154292838>>154292833
>>154288696I just hate how the ending is just a way to retroactively turn the story about goosework transition, and there was absolutely no need to make jax trans too
>>154288934>>154289099Based
>>154292846I guess this conversation ultimately just stems back to some "Lolsorandum" retard implying catholics self mutilate. Which they do, but mentally not physically usually. Anything to make the mules work more.
“Jax isn’t a Trans allegory!” peddlers BTFO
>castration cultistWhy are you so fucking corny dawg? If you're going to say tranny at least say tranny
>>154292978Goose is a bad writer and a coward who hides behind "its up to everyone's personal interpretation" despite regularly giving explicit definitive answers for several other things.
>>154292970>some "Lolsorandum" retard implying catholics self mutilateTo deflect from what was referred to in >>154288977, hence >>154292289.>>154292978See >>154291851>>154293000Why would I use a euphemism derived from one they use for themselves?
>>154288696>I only want cartoon for 11 year old boysYou are only one step up from the people who only watch PBS.
I NEED to fuck pomni.
How did people get that Jax was trans all along? Except the fucking song.
>>154293012I'm just gonna walk away from this conversation more confused than the forgotten reason that started it.
>>154293042calm down, cute transgender bunnygirl jaxxy
>>154293060>>154291611>>154292978>>154291851 (Me)
>>154288696>Remember when cartoons were actually good?Yeah, you just posted an image of one.
>>154293060Because being gay isn't enough for the kind of tormented soul thing he had going on. even though it's the actual reasonSo he had to be trans for the transgression factor.
>>154292978Goose needs to shut the fuck up and stop ruining everything, leaving jax open to interpretation was what made him better than the other characters.
>>154293060>How did people get that Jax was trans all along? Except the fucking song.I'm starting to think this is the only reason other than goose himself hatelettering his fanbase. Otherwise to me he's just a mentally ill angsty homeless person who fears sharing his feelings (what's the difference I know I know).
>>154293060because the series is written by a self absorbed trans
>>154293139>ruiningIt's his series; he can't ruin what was always worthless.
>>154292978Funny how Goose posts pic related JUST after Ep. 9 officially went public and GLITCH no longer has undisputed legal grounds to sue him if it caused a bad reaction online.
>>154293098Funny joke, sweetie.
>>154293170bot reply
>>154293168It is? I mean, I should've guessed
Putting people who confidently said Jax isn't trans in the same category as people who confidently said SOMA isn't canon. Which is to say they were 10% trolling, 20% stupid and 70% lying to themselves
I thought Jax was insecure with a feminine side and lashed out at anyone who he perceived as having knowledge that would make him feel weakBut nope hes transgender thats literally it
>>154293176They should delete the series anyway and DMCA takedown any reuploads and reactions, including on other websites.>>154293193Thank you for letting me know.
>>154293210Yes idiot
I can't imagine going to the cinema for this shit. KEK.
Once I got over how god awful the finale was, and woke up to how god awful the series was (despite my unexplainable infatuation) I've gained much more respect (or at least returned to baseline respect) for good writing. So that's something (maybe).idk how the fuck this series got such a vice grip on me. I quite genuinely feel like I've gotten out of an abusive relationship and finally seen the light on what a piece of shit they were despite my friends telling me as much all along. Why was I ever into this shit? I feel like a moron.
>>154293060There was no reason to believe jax was trans up to the last episode, and even after it was vague enough that goose had to fucking confirm it. I'm starting to think that if goose genuinely thinks that someone like jax irl is actually trans, she might not be trans at all either(since jax is obviously based on herself).
>>154292978While everyone’s hating on Goose for ruining ADC by making it a ham-fisted Troon rep, I hate him for the backlash this is going to have on the freedom of any future shows made by GLITCH.GLITCH is going to completely rape PTS and Ross with legal red tape to make sure they can’t do this too, when they likely wouldn’tve in the first place.
>>154288825So?
>>154293259>Why was I ever into this shit?cute girls, duh
>>154293139Anon, she essentially saved us from having a month long discussion about Jax being a troon or not. She did the right thing.
>>154292978>See this awful character?>transitioning could have made it a good person!This is literally propaganda
>>154293300I just wish gaslight district gets made and doesn't turn into shit like tadc
>>154289151>hyperrealityHaven't read that word since... maybe 2020.
>>154292575Having a character so self-absorbed in what other people think of them they don't realize their friend is drowning is compelling. It's just the execution that's lacking. TADC always awkwardly assumes characters never come in contact offscreen, so nobody's there for Queenie or Ribbit despite caring and nobody finds out Kinger's night mode lucidity despite dealing with him for years.Abstraction in general is poorly written and inconsistent despite being such a central threat to the cast.Episode 1>Kaufmo's sudden abstraction is inconvenient! Ragatha focuses on PomniEpisode 2>abstraction means Kaufmo's fucking dead and we're holding his funeralEpisode 6>people on the verge of abstraction are terrible to deal with, Pomni!Episode 9>Ribbit and Kaufmo were perfectly normal and nobody noticed they were about to turn
>>154293259>I feel like a moronYou are, or at least were. Just how it is.
>>154292978I must be media illiterate because I didn't pick up on this at all. Is this all because of a bow?
>>154293316yeah and turned him into another monodimensional shit character that proves she can't actually write good stories, every loose end the finale tied up retroactively made the story worse and she just got lucky with making the rest vague enough to bee interesting.
>>154293350Apologize
>>154293385there was no reason to believe jax was trans even in the last episode
>>154293404I've never said a single bad word about her except that one time she jumped in on that stupid bullshit where people were making up that goose got cyberbullied off reddit when in reality goose just mad some retarded posts and got disagreed with by people who didnt even know it was goose then deleted the reddit account.
>>154288696>okay, now pan around them in slow motion as they hug >and have them slowly walk away at a really awkward angle kinda staring back at each other >make all of this take several minutes >for no reason whatsoever
>>154293401kek, who made this
>>154288801How long have you known you were trans?
>>154290218>when people speak to one another, they have a tendency to be rather clear with what they're thinkingNot only is that demonstrably false, it's an example of really lame writing/acting.Writing on the nose or acting on the lines is a mark of an amateur, or a show for preschoolers. Done well, a character/actor uses their lines as tools to accomplish their goal for the scene, so the actual meaning is rarely the exact meaning of the words being spoken.
>>154293551Since She's So Lovely started playing whenever I show up.
>>154293350The show was clearly not planned very far in advance, because the further it went the more bizarre everything in the pilot seemed in retrospect
>>154291500People who swear as therapy as a cure-all are living exemplars of the saying that 'a fool and his money are destined to part.'.Therapy, as a business model, is incentivized to engender an unhealthy dependence on the therapist (via pharmaceutical and/or psychological means) while never actually resolving the patient's issues.If the following applies to you then please consider this a wake-up call instead of an insult:> If you've attended therapy for an extended period you are almost certainly being scammed.
>>154293060>Except the fucking songI'm retarded and thought "isn't she lovely" referred to Pomni until I went on the internet
>>154293404first apologize for everything after HB S1>>154293483If Ragatha was in the nebulous abstraction danger zone around episode 6 it could have been a good scene, but at that point it was just perplexing.>okay, Pomni thematically HAS to return the favor for Ep1 even though it doesn't make logical sense
>>154293483I was expecting a building to fall over her or something. What was the point
>>154288696No because I'm not a boomer
>>154293612the pilot has more charm than whatever the story turned into by the end, would have worked better as a adventure-of-the-week kind of show
>>154293669>the pilot has more charm than whatever the story turned into by the endWhich is impressive, considering how negligible it was.
>>154293665So cartoons have always been shit for you?
>Zoobles only character traits were being a tranny and sexA bit on the nose don't you think
>>154293259>I feel like a moronThat's because you are.Most people are honestly.But in recognizing a past instance of your own idiocy, you have grown the tiniest bit.
>>154293714Zooble had some character but their arc stopped because they apologized to Jax and told him he's the bestest boy which means they didn't have anything else to do since Jax was done with them.
>>154293669This mess was the worst episode, but I think the pilot was second worst. The only really good scene was Pomni losing it over her N64 dinner. It wasn't until the second episode the show had me by the balls wanting to know more
>>154288801>you can't have a cartoon show deep wounds if there's no 20 minutes of exposition with bawling, therapy, and socially inept characters unable to make eye contac, because that stuff will not connect with zoomershttps://youtube.com/watch?v=ArbPpMdPTe8&t=140sboom, in 20 seconds you're reminded of the character's motivation, past, and the amount of volition driving him is suggested by the orchestral composition. Any questions you zoomzoomhomohemorroids?
>>154288801NTA, but my problem with the finale isn't that it has emotions and melodrama... but that those are *all* it has. We just go from theraputic catharsis to theraputic catharsis with basically nothing in between. It comes off as shallow and superficial to me because its been so completely stripped of structure or context or pacing. It doesn't feel like a continuation of the show up until this point, and the finale isn't even really interested in buildup or flow. A good microcosm of this to me is that despite how much buildup we've had to this event, Jax abstracts offscreen with barely a passing mentioned. This big, dramatic transformation and escalation of circumstances handled with a "and then that happened", but we get like 20 solid minutes of Jax's therapy session afterwards. A therapy session that is purely fanservice, it accomplishes *nothing* within the context of the story itself: Jax's abstraction is not repaired or reversed, what is learned during this therapy session does not affect a change in Pomni herself that alters the course of events that what follows. Its just pandering to the audience that wanted to know that sad backstory and drawing it out for the maximum amount of melodrama. Meanwhile, everything involving Caine this episode feels off because this just isn't the same character as has existed in the previous episodes of the show. A change in perspective and temperament and personal growth is fine and all, but his entire speech pattern has changed and been leveled off into the exact same flat, morose voice that *every other character* has throughout the finale so that you know that this is serious time.For an absurdist comedy adventure show with a sprinkling of emotional weight to it, the finale just went pure emotional weight and dropped every other part of the formula completely for a solid hour. Yeast makes bread better, but I don't want to sit down and eat a bowl of yeast.
I don't think Jax was trans at all, I think he was just gay.
>>154291047Have you never spent time in the real world? If you ever decide to there's a good chance you'll meet some brown people. They can be your coworkers, your clients, God forbid even a friend. I'm a conservative apparently because I'm against abortion and trannyshit but even I know that Gangle and Zooble being a black weeb fast food wagie and nonbinary dyke bar tender respectively makes sense because I've met people exactly like that in real life.
My problem is that the writing vastly overestimates how much I care about Jax. A full cast of characters and he gets 90% of the spotlight
>>154293908People keep claiming that you're not supposed to care about Jax and the show just explains why Jax. But that just sounds like bad writing to me.
>>154293847Tbh I don't get what that guy is talking either, I am a zoomer and I grew up with plenty of cartoons from the late 90s and 00s that had subtle good writing. Samurai Jack could tell you a proper sad story without using 1 word.
>>154290287>>154291382It works for Evangelion because the entire theme of the show is people putting up barriers between each other for fear of being vulnerable in front of another person, so when a character actually does outright say what they are thinking or feeling half the time its a lie (which you can infer from context and their actions, and the fact that they are lying about their feelings is important) and when its true that vulnerability usually leads to suffering instead of a therapy talk and a hug.
>They were brainscans all alongOh so none of this matters at all
>>154292153That's how a group dynamic really is though. People generally gravitate toward one or two particular people more than others. It would be really weird if all of the characters interacted with each other equally.
>>154288801>>154290126I am. Kill yourself.
>>154293848It really is hilarious to me that Jax abstracts completely offscreen and all the characters can only acknowledge with the emotional gravitas of "I can't believe Jax is fucking dead."Like Kinger's not even there to silently look sad next to everyone else, he's just completely gone for the next thirty minutes of the Jax Show, which is even funnier in retrospect when Jax starts talking about his paternal abandonment.
>>154288801Not op, I was fine with the prior episodes of TADC (sometimes the drama was done well, sometimes it felt a bit melodramatic), but the ENTIRE fucking finale was essentially one long soap session that felt like the most blatant pandering to a very specific audience. It gave me flashbacks to the last year or so of Homestuck, just unbearable shit.
My problem with this show is that every character is like an extreme introvert. Some of them have supposedly been trapped in this world for like 10+ years (Ragatha, Jax, Kinger). And they can't open up to each other? That's the whole drama? It's not even a juicy secret or backstory. Their lives are so mundane.The characters basically don't talk to each other. They don't really explore the place or get to know Cain. The whole show relies on these "relationships" and tearjerker moments but none of these characters interact much besides some very awkward stuttering lest they "overstep" their social boundaries. Jax being kind of standoffish and a bully is pretty much the only catalyst for conversation in this show.I liked the premise. I liked the character designs. But the writing sucked. Seems to be the case with a lot of modern shows. Should have just stuck to the adventures. Spending the last 3 episodes on "drama" and hugging each other sucked.Also I can't believe Jax abstracted off-screen.
Reminder that Jax opens up to Pomni in episode 5 long before Ragatha opens up to her offscreen between episodes 6 and 7. But Jax is punished by the narrative for being "too closed off"
>>154294040>I liked the premise. I liked the character designs.Good thing literally nothing in the show is unique in any way whatsoever. Just watch Jim Henson's The Cube then Evangelion. For aesthetics it's just a random mix of stuff, Popee the Performer, Raggedy Ann and Andy musical adventure, Osamu Sato, Utopian Scholastic aesthetic, etc TADC is basically the fortnite of random millennial web aesthetics
>something something trapped in a virtual world foreverThis resonates with zoomers who were complexly traumatized by Covid and whose whole mental space is Discord servers and VRChat. Have I got this right?
>>154293848This. Also the caine puzzlesolving segment felt weird and pointless
Anyone else find it weird that for all of the exposition that happened in the finale, we didn't actually get even the remotest explanation for how these characters got brain scanned in the first place?Like, Kinger was part of the dev team that made the AI and the brain scanner. Him and the other computer nerds he spawned in with tested the device on themselves. Fine.How did Zooble get brain scanned? Why? How did JAX get brain scanned, last thing he remembers he was a homeless guy so unless they were brain scanning random people off the street for 20 bucks to test the helmet I just don't see how he ever gets within 100 ft of the machine. This just seems like a fairly important thing to skip over, because its why any of them are in this mess in the first place and there's a big difference between someone who got scanned by accident, got scanned for testing purposes, or someone who was literally dying and got scanned because the company promised to 'save' them. The choice and agency, or lack of it, seems like it would be important here.
>>154294141It looks like tiktok brainrot to them and they care more about engaging with merchandise and the fandom than the source material.
>>154294141It resonates with children after cartoons with bright colors become uncool
>>154288696cartoons haven't been good for 20 years.
if jax wasn't a self insert gangle would've pissed string on his grave, I seriously don't understand why she'd feel upset at all.Actually the whole episode completely sidelines how she'd feel in favor of telling you how sad her tranny abuser is
>someone said jax is a tranny in the finale.>i haven't bothered to verify, but i believe it instantly. I haven't watched past episode 4 like 2 years ago, i always thought it was slop since the pilot and i have been proven right once again.
If Jax is a self insert does that mean gooseworx is a serial abuser of cis women?
>>154294256Honestly, Goose blueskying about how Jax is a piece of shit was the final nail in the coffin in revealing how fucking god awful and self obsessed this writing is, absolutely zero care put into anyone else's perspective other than "what will let me goon to my self-insert's pain the most?"
>>154294235What was the last thing you liked?
>>154294146Caine getting access to the internet and the outside world and the ONLY thing he does is google the names of the people he's got scans of instead of, you know, spreading like a digital plague to the outside would that he has been so infatuated with from the start seems like they forgot what motivates Caine as a character.Try this on for size as a finale: keep the start mostly the same. Pomni still has the therapy session with Jax, albeit perhaps a shorter version of it. But, now armed with the revelation that despite everything Jax is *still in there* lights a fire in Pomni to fix the abstracted people, but they can't do that on their own they'll need Caine's help. They do an adventure to get a computer terminal working again, Kinger reboots a broken copy of Caine, and after tweaking Caine a bit they manage to get him to repair Jax using data from his initial brainscan to fill in the corrupted bits. However, while doing this, the newly rebooted Caine starts messing with other stuff he previously couldn't do, and finds the wifi connection. Caine immediately tries to escape, and the cast realizes that they have a connection to the outside world BUT if they don't destroy it Caine will escape the circus, leave them behind, and they have no idea what will happen if an AI like him makes its way out into the internet. Having to destroy the way out they have wanted for so long and lock themselves in the Circus with Caine.
>>154294306that was western and strictly non-anime?uhhhhhh.... that takes a while to think back that far.primal, i guess.
>>154294040I think I didn't notice how bad the character writing was getting because I really enjoyed the world and humor. I loved everything about that stupid bar in your image. The outfits, the lighting, the banter, the recurring NPC we've never met, the drink furnished with a corn cob, Jax's irrational fear of it, all of it. So I'd overlook the characters nonsensically acting like they're meeting for the first time despite knowing each other for years
>>154293848They really did lobotomize caine for hysteria like it's the 1800's
>>154294256After a point you could probably just have Gangle and Zooble fucking abstract offscreen together for all they matter to anyone but each other. Same with Kinger, he doesn't even get a Jax hallucination.
>>154293848Very good post.
>>154294334Bro that was 7 years ago.
>>154288696When cartoons were good, they weren't being written by faggots with emotional incontinence.
>>154294457i knoweverything has been shit for so long
>>154294115>Just watch Jim Henson's The Cube then EvangelionSpeaking of good stuff named Cube, go watch the 1997 horror movie as well.It’s basically TADC if Caine was a giant, unfeeling maze the dwellers had to escape from, and unlike TADC they’re actually in danger.
>>154294541Cube's sequels and later attempts to explain the setting are terrible but not as terrible as TADC's writing.
Have the fucking guts to say people will be happy when you die after you hurt them. He wasn't just unpleasant he also sabotaged an escape attempt. He's less of a huggable mental health failure and more of the police bodycam footage type that gets put down"But he's SAD! he had a bad childhood!" I understand and choose to not care. Tough shit I guess.The show cares so he gets a hug after everything, I fucking hate melodrama so much.
>>154294330Terrific, and not just because literally almost ANYTHING would be better than the actual ending.
>>154294579It's extra funny because the show doesn't give a fuck at all about Ragatha having a hilariously terrible home life. But when it's Jax it's the saddest most terrible thing that ever happened to anyone. The way jax is written is straight up harry potter fanfiction tier garbage.
You niggas need some better taste
>>154288801>internal monologue against your male identity trying to assert itself projected on others
>>154293848My thoughts exactly. The pacing is terrible.I think the rise should have been the reveal that they are all just programs. And that is the moment Jax loses his shit and abstracts and sucks the whole cast into his mental world. Then the climax is Pomni confronting Jax and bringing them all back safely (with or without Jax). That's just one simple way to have a better finale.But instead Jax is abstracted off-screen. Pomni goes to him (alone) anyway for seemingly no reason. And Cain has this weird montage and suddenly he's good now? And what was with that long scene of Pomni and Ragatha slowly walking away while staring at each other? Fucking garbage.
>Pomni has basically avoided Ragatha for half the series>Now suddenly she's her closest friend???
>>154290453Holy based.
>>154294554NTA but I never said watch the sequels, just the first movie. It’s great.Also, how prophetic that the Cube films start off intriguing and mysterious, and by the end it’s complete slop where there’s zero reason for genuine investment and almost everything has been explained?
>>154291630Uh...Are we counting Angel Dust out before finding out who he killed?
>>154294673>NTA but I never said
>>154291630Unironically yes
>>154294663Feels like they spent a whole season just to bring them back to where they were at the start of the season. The show is constantly threatening to make Pomni and Ragatha best friends only for them to just awkwardly spazz out at each other and apologise for it then go back to Pomni and Ragatha avoiding each other and interacting with other people
ENTER the BEST trans rep of all time.
>>154294704Apologies for the word soup, but you get the picture.I felt like you were putting words in my mouth, and I’m trying to clarify what I said without starting any shit flinging.
>>154288696I feel like modern day writers forget that the characters must serve the story, and not the other way around
Has anyone that worked on the show addressed the glaring plothole that the computer running the circus has just been running for years and years in an abandoned building?
>>154295111No.
>>154288801Crying is not inherantly drama.
>>154289434In that episode the therapy consisted of exploring Helga's character, not melodrama and crying.
>>154295111Government contract?
I would have just had cain create a minecraft like world so I could just live there by myself and go on adventures and shit in a persistent world.
I liked the finale but I do think that despite being an ensemble show, TADC failed at it pretty hard. Shit like The Good Place did it better (even though it also suffers a bit with the increased focus with certain characters). Anybody who ain’t a jaxfag or pomnifag sorta have a right to be upset that their favorite character didn’t get as much focus.
revealing everyones names and identities is kind of lame, if this came out in the early 2000s they would have the scene where cain shows the internet footage be a montage where you can't see the screen and they're all happy with who they are in the real world. But I know people today would be butthurt at not knowing the names and think its bad writing to hide it.
It's incredible how so many Millennials are only capable of writing stories like this.
I really thought they were going to find a way to reverse abstraction, since they randomly had pomti dive into his Mental World like psychonauts as if she knew she could do that.
>>154294632>the show doesn't give a fuck at all about Ragatha having a hilariously terrible home life.Sucks that Ragatha never had a character or an arc because Goose lost all interest in her immediately after the design was finalized
>>154295111Of all the criticisms to have, this is least important. No one asks how, in I Have No Mouth.. how AM is able to keep itself running where there's nobody left to maintain the power grid and replace parts as they get worn out.
>>154292291>Gravity Falls fans talking about how dark and fucked up it isLmao, I've seen children anime darker than gravity falls
>>154294663And the funniest thing is that Pomni deliberately avoided her. It's not like they (or at least Pomni) was trying to hang, but outside circumstances kept preventing that.
>>154295398>how AM is able to keep itself runningIt is explained that AM has 'god-like' powers, which it uses to torture the group, it is not a significant stretch of logic to imagine it is also using those powers to maintain itself.
>>154294330Cool but you could only come up with it because you weren't the overworked nihilistic creator of this show
>>154295333We tried for something more deep than the slop our Gen X parents raised us on. Then we ended up with drama slop.
>>154295398AM has is a globe spanning self sustaining AI with god like powers, while the digital circus is running on an old pc inside an abandoned office building, it makes no sense.
>>154295398AM is some sort of techno-god reality warper. TADC runs on a shitty computer from the 90s.
>>154295444>>154295668>>154295716So it runs on magic.
>>154295111Years and years? Just set Time.timeScale = 9999 and they can spend a gorillion years in simulated world before 1 second passed in the real world
having only seen 2 episodes, Jax really drags the entire thing down, sick of him
>>154295737Except we know that the real versions of the characters have gone on and lived their lives for years and years.
>>154295861That was Caine generating fan fictions after getting training data from Instagram
>>154295736AM does, because AM is pretty specifically shown to be (nearly) omnipotent in the real world, hence the biblical reference. Caine is not, while he has complete control over his simulation, he can't affect anything outside like AM could. He's just a crazy AI running on 90s hardware. Him being able to compress and run the brainstate data of both himself and multiple other consciousnesses on dinosaur tech can be handwaved as human incomprehensible AGI optimization, but he's still constrained to the hardware, cut off from the real world, and that hardware still has operating requirements like electricity which went unexplained.Sometimes you get abandoned buildings that are still hooked up to power, but given how long it had to be running for, components should have failed in that time. Thermal paste would have degraded, fans gunked up with dust, problems like that Caine couldn't solve. Then it was never explained why C&A abandoned the research and the building when it was obvious they had succeeded in making an AI, as Caine was contained, and then cut off after absorbing Able.
>>154295948You're expecting a "plausible" explanation when there's no plausible explanation for an advanced AGI like Caine even able able to exist on a single 1990s-era personal computer. All those data centers popping up that people are griping out exist for a reason. Just accept that it's science fantasy.
>>154295537I'm absolutely a nihilist, but the fun kind not the sad kind.
>>154295996>this thing is unrealistic, so this other unrealistic thing should also be acceptedSomething about a dragon and a 2001 toyota corolla
>>154291464>Rejecting actual useful technology.You're brown and a zomboid. And you will never be a millennial like your big bro now matter hard you try to copy his criticism of everything.
>>154296044The car is incongruous with the fantasy setting. TADC is consistent in that it offers no explanations whatsoever for its pseudoscientific elements.
>>154290631What the fuck...?You are not a serious person, and nothing you have to say is worth respecting in any way.
>>154296077It's consistent, but that doesn't make it acceptable, some questions should be answered. Hell, I would accept a bullshit line about Caine figuring out how to draw power from quantum foam directly into the power supply unit just from deduction from electrical currents through the hardware while he was still plugged in.
>>154288888It doesn't have to be funny but failed humor is better than failed psychotherapy as entertainment, and not a single show so far has succeeded as psychotherapy.
>>154296073>useful>when it can never replicate the colors and light of cel animation Retard alert, also nice projection lol.
>>154292145You've watched, what, five things in total across your entire life?Lmfao you need more exposure to actual bad things if this is the worst thing you've ever seen, holy shit.What a little piss baby. Nothing you have to say is worth taking seriously
>>154296156It's unimportant. Whatever explanation you come up with yourself is the answer.
>>154296244>IT DOESN'T MATTEROh fuck off with this, it's a flimsy shield for bad writing.
>>154296280A lot of fairy tales, fantasy, and soft science fiction stories put no thought whatosever into the mechanics of how the settings exist. Whatever the answer is - it's going to be bullshit, unless it's written by a hard science fiction writer, and let me tell you, a lot of hard science fiction is incredibly dull. Just because a story is well-researched with informed speculation doesn't mean it's going to be an entertaining story.
>>154296339Clearly you don't know about suspension of disbelief and just demand that disbelief be suspended no matter what.
>>154295736That’s still an explanation, which TADC never even bothered to give.
>>154296280the show started becoming boring the less it focused on the story and more on the shitty characters and their drama, unfortunately this type of writing is becoming more and more common.
>>154296644Alphas are gonna grow up to despise therapyslop
>>154296239Even the Saints Row reboot had better writing than this shit
