>transgender author’s directly confessed self-insert character and officially declared dual protagonist>massively pushes all other characters out of screen-time, to the point they lose plot relevance at all, including the majority of the theatrical finale being a dedicated trauma dump>finale explains that he’s (whatever pronouns) is the mindscan copy of some teen going through an identity/gender crisis>acts openly hostile to everyone at all times and aggressively refuses earnest assistance from concerned friends and peers multiple times in all forms of attempts>commits the digital version of suicide because he’s unable to handle himself (after causing someone else to commit digital suicide as well)>the very end of the finale, its revealed his irl-self simply grew out of the transsexual phase and lives a normal fulfilling life>this is somehow postulated as ‘trans-positive’ mediaAm I unironically retarded? I don’t think a dedicated /pol/-shitposter could do something like this if they tried.
>OH HEY DAD IVE BEEN LOOKING FOR YOU FOR FATHER'S DAY I WANTED TO SHOW YOU MY MAGIC TRICKS AN->WAIT WHERE ARE YOU GOING!!!
>simply grew out of the transsexual phase and lives a normal fulfilling life
>>154325390>ending needs to be clarified on twitter because the creator is terminally online and didn’t think most people would see a male when shown a ‘boymoder’I’ll concede I was wrong, but I do not feel as though my case has weakened
>>154325497Just how it is I guess.I also didn't know what a boymoder was until very recently.
>>154325358Jax is self destructive because she chose to remain closeted and acted like an asshole to her friends.The moral of the story is that repression of yourself is bad and pushing away people who love you is self destructive. It's a pro trans message because it's a cautionary tale that if you have gender dysphoria, you'd be better off transitioning (the only known effect treatment that alleviates the pain and the discomfort) and talking to your friends. At least one of the two.Irl Jax, Lee, did not "grow out of being trans", she's just a boymoder and on hormones while continuing to present outwardly as male until her physical transition is further along. This is normal for Gen Z trans women.The message is that if you refuse treatment for mental illness and reject friendship, you'll probably kill yourself.
>>154325654>tranny showrunner>make a show about anything other than tranny propaganda>difficulty: impossible
>>154325654> Irl Jax, Lee, did not "grow out of being trans", she's just a boymoder and on hormones while continuing to present outwardly as male Funny trannies on Tumblr equated this to literal murder if they weren’t allowed to fire every conservative or Christian artist and legally force people to refer to them by neopronouns.Turns out just being indistinguishable from your biological sex is a fine choice after all and it was about a power trip!
>>154325807Umm, you should really finish reading that sentence before you respond to it.
>>154325390and here I was praising Goose for having the restraint to leave the ending (barely) open to interpretation
>>154325387>Disgusting foid daighrer
>>154325843No buddy back on 2012 Tumblr trannies insisted that being ANYTHING but their trans identity anywhere was intolerable. There was no time limit on this, no amount that was acceptable. If you didn’t give in you were responsible for their suicides.It’s just that 1. The power they gained did nothing to prevent their suicides, Goose literally worships suicide 2. They’re forced to coexist now that people don’t fall for their oppressed victim routine so they adopt this “im a cool boymoder trans” attitude My former best friend, a pervert trans activist, was personally responsible for wrecking my life for not accepting lgbtq. You can’t lie to me.
>>154326013It's ok for you to admit that you don't understand trans people or their culture.
>>154326088Nta but admittedly, I don’t want to.I’ve seen enough from the outside to dissuade any desire to deepen my learning of it.
>>154326088Buddy you can’t handle my story about my connection to Homestuck.The only “understanding” you care about is gooning to making a kid think he’s trans.Trans cultists are exactly like Mormons: their beliefs and lifestyles are molded by the legal and political situation. Just as Mormons gave up on Polygamy, trannies gave up on “NO I CANT KEEP SAYING IM MALE IT MAKES ME WANT TO KILL MYSELF!!”
>>154325390>tranny correcting people's interpretation of his characters on twitterKek, he's become JK rowling
>>154326153>Buddy you can’t handle my story about my connection to Homestuck.No one wants to hear your schizo lies, again.
>>154325358>It's another "let's cry about trannys" threadI wonder how much this will be spammed
>>154325358Can't wait for all the tranny bullshit to finally get old, lose all it's hair, and die.
New Goose post
>>154325778The story is about self growth. Not propaganda. Caine's arc is given equal relevancy and screentime and he's a cisgender male whose forgiven by the women he abused because he makes an honest and earnest effort to take accountability and become a person who earns love rather than leverages fear.The trans stuff is not the point of the show. It's just one aspect of a character whose a cautionary tale of what will happen if you are not honest with yourself and others. For trans people like Gooseworx, they view their gender expression as an earnest part of their personality. And to repress it, would be lying to themselves and others. That's why lying to Jax lies to herself and others that she's an "asshole". She makes herself hateable in a self destructive spiral because she fears being honest or vulnerable after her mother's rejection. It's not good behavior but it is understandable behavior.Caine is the other side of that coin, he's someone who suffers from similar though not the same problems, the desire to be loved and to receive earnest appreciation from others. He surrenders the power he has over them so he can become an equal and respected member of their society. He seeks to build consensus and consent rather than force others to do his bidding because it makes him more fulfilled. He's being honest with himself. That's something Jax was deathly afraid of. She'd rather kill herself than take accountability for her actions.
>>154325358They didn't even try to flesh out any of the mysterious characters like Scratch and they only spent a few seconds revealing that Bubble was the Blue AI and that Bubble was actually the villain the whole time who was putting evil thoughts in Caine's head. They didn't explain any of the real questions and just focused on the fact Jax was secretly trans the whole time for the entire episode and you are supposed to like him even though he is revealed to be a psychopath murderer scumbag because he is dealing with body issues so that means he is somehow good now? He literally had no reason to hide the fact he was trans from everybody, everyone in the circus looks like they would have accepted him as a woman especially Zooble so he had no reason to keep it a secret lol.
>>154326544You do realize that estrogen prevents hair loss, right? Cis males take it for this reason.
I'm most angry about how episode 8 made it seem like Caine was the bad ai because he ate the blue ai. But episode 8 shows him remove the blue ai and then he becomes a good guy which means the blue ai was the bad guy, and then bubble dies and turns into an ordinary bubble, which means bubble was the blue ai. They spent about 30 seconds on this and spent the other 59 minutes on Jax being a closet tranny wtf lol.
>>154326584Thanks, I'll just say get old and die from now on faggot.
>>154326628I think he was just skitzo
Jax should've abstracted in ep8 and ep9 should've focused on fixing the circus and Caine while stumbling into the secret/solution to abstractions. This way the message would be that Jax can't just run away and has to face and make up for what he caused.
>>154326628>and then bubble dies and turns into an ordinary bubbleActually you see a faced Bubble in the background in Zooble's bar pretending to be a skewered olive.
the women in this show are too forgiving they should just beat the shit out of everyone
Aggressively mogged by Hunter the Parenting in terms of being a psychological thriller and having gay shit in it.If only the animation budget for it was as high as a Glitch prod.
>>154326570>They didn't even try to flesh out any of the mysterious characters like ScratchNothing they could have shown about him would've changed the events of the series.>and they only spent a few seconds revealing that Bubble was the Blue AI and that Bubble was actually the villain the whole time who was putting evil thoughts in Caine's head. ...what more did you need?>They didn't explain any of the real questionsLike?>just focused on the fact Jax was secretly trans the whole time for the entire episodeHow dare they focus on one of the main characters.>you are supposed to like him even though he is revealed to be a psychopath murderer scumbag because he is dealing with body issues so that means he is somehow good now? Nothing about it says you are supposed to like him, that's not the point. Explaining why he's a fucked up mess isn't an endorsement of his action.>He literally had no reason to hide the fact he was trans from everybody, everyone in the circus looks like they would have accepted him as a woman especially Zooble so he had no reason to keep it a secret lol.Did you...did you completely miss the point of the scene with Ribbit? Yeah, that totally could have happened if he didn't give in to his worst tendencies and neurosis.
>>154325654/thread
>>154325358>>the very end of the finale, its revealed his irl-self simply grew out of the transsexual phase and lives a normal fulfilling lifeYeah man I'm sure the "guy" who's regularly going out into an LGBT bar DEFINITELY grew out of his "his" supposed "transsexual phase."You're really fucking bad at subtext.
>>154326584No. That's 109% not true. It's not enough
>>154325654this is only the individualist reading
>>154327880It is. Estrogen represses DHT which is what causes the hair loss. With DHT repressed, hair loss will stop and hair can even regrow from previously dormant follicles.
>>154327937The collectivist reading is that Jax would've been more pleasant to be around if she accepted others' friendship, got over her mommy issues, and transitioned since she'd be a less resentful and spiteful person. Ragatha and Fem Jax would probably be friends. The issue is that Jax consistently makes the wrong choices and pushes people who care about him away. We see this with how he tries to push away Pomni for reminding him of Kaufmo and Ribbit.
so, from what I understand, irl Jax did start transitioning but just dresses like a boy still, meanwhile circus Jax chooses death over being a tranny?Shockingly based coming from a trans like Goose.
>>154328053It's not "based". Jax is an asshole. Nothing he does is "based".The only way you could think what circus Jax did was "based" is if you're an antisocial person and a threat to society.Lee actually has friends and isn't dead. Lee is an objectively better person than Jax.
>>154328053Circus Jax did the right thing.
>>154327289They’re a dude who fetishizes femininity’s view of how women should act in a given situation. The “female” characters are the weakest least fleshed out characters in the show.
>>154328204The main character is a woman. You're an idiot.
>>154325358They never grew out of the transsexual phase they are still in it.HRT is expensive but they are trying to do it.
>>154328226and she sucks
>>154325654So if you go trans, you automatically stop being a jerk?
>>154328053I don't think that's the reason. He died because he indulged in causing pain without consequences a little too much. He shot people, he emotionally abused them. He pretends to be a horrible person which is actually becoming a horrible person. He does not forgive himself enough to allow himself back into his tiny ass society. Meanwhile, rl Jax killed no one and only has the parents parental abuse in his baggage with no additional weight of straight up causing the deaths of others
>>154328226She doesn't even have fleshed out past or anything
>>154325358This show is highly satanic because it was made by a trannysexualised
>>154328226The “main character” has no arc.
>>154328284If you aren't repressing a major aspect of yourself that you're bitter about repressing, you're less of a jerk, yeah.If you don't have dysphoria, transition will not really change this but for those that suffer from gender dysphoria, they become more pleasant to be around after transition.>>154328291Yes. He acted out of spite and resentment and deluded himself that he was a cartoon character as a maladaptive coping mechanism after Kaufmo and Ribbit's suicides to justify treating others like shit. "I'm the only one that's real" schtick. It's why Kinger not just being an archetype but a person with a multifaceted personality broke him.
>>154328337Is it true your christfagging is to make Christians seem annoying on purpose so anons come closer to Jews ideology?
>>154328337
>>154325358Just because it is realistic on how gender dysphoria wrecks people does not mean it is not good representation.Jax can be extremely flawed and still a good representation of trans people.He shows the realistic struggles of people.
>>154328230hrt isn't expensive at all, it's everything else that's expensivethat's part of the reason boymoders are a thing
>>154325358Celebration parallax.If they say it, its a good thing.If you say it, it isn't happening you foolish idiot.
>>154326567There's almost no point trying to explain things like this to the people who browse this board. They are not mature enough for that level of thought, they are programmed to see certain triggers (like transgender) and carry out their programming, all rational thinking shuts down.
>episode 5>soulrepper jax opening up to pomni>she's envious of nona zooble mentoring babytrans gangle>hagatha interrupts and attacks jax for being a projecting repper>jax closes up and reps even harder after thisno wonder chud reppers are outraged, the mirror has been held up to them and they are afraid. sad! many such cases!
>>154325358Exactly why it's a bold story to tell. You can't get away with something like this in liberal media, but a transgender woman said FUCK IT! IM GOING IN RAW
>>154325654>you'd be better off transitioningUhhh. No.Message is be good to those around you.That's always a personal choice and no one should be pushed or pressued to be or also not be trans.Jax issue was NOT they are trans. That was the excuse. Jax issue was not accepting themself and blaming everyone else and abusing everyone else around them bc Jax is a pussy ass coward narcissist.there is a reason Caine is their parallel; another egoist who stared right into his own mistakes of damaging everyone around him and thought about the best outcome and decided to be compassionate and find empathy and listen to others and trust.
>>154328803>Cherrypicks paragraph and ignores immediate clarifying elements>and talking to your friends. At least one of the two.>At least one of the two.>The message is that if you refuse treatment for mental illness and reject friendship, you'll probably kill yourself.
>>154328610I dont know wtf a ‘repped’ is but>ragatha calls out jax for being an insufferable douchebag all the time>’this is bad, ok? jax is actually trans and that mean hes allowed to be a bullying faggot’Eat shit
>>154325847I'm pretty sure he went on twitter 15 minutes after it aired on youtube and intentionally killed any and all ambiguity.
>>154328888it's moreso hagatha's attitude response is exactly why jax is the way she is. jax is an insufferable bitch because she has been burnt so many times opening up. it's just tragic and ultimately just reinforces jax's repression
>>154328303Is well-adjusted urban explorer not good enough for you?
the # 1 worst thing about this finale is 90% of discussion is now centred around one character who also died, the rest of the show feels completely ancillary now, i miss the early threads man
>>154325390does goose even realize how much his tiny mind has been captured by doomscrolling /lgbt/? what a fuckin idiot
>>154329456oh please, like there's anything meaningful to discuss regarding the rest of the cast.
>>154329512No goose thinks every gay person is a /tttt/ poster
>>154329512TADC is a /tttt/ show (Kill me).
>>154329522there was, until there wasn't
>>154328610Anon, I kind of do wish that it was as ambiguous as you think it is. But Goose has made it pretty damn unambiguous now.
>>154328610can you translate your post into english for me doc
>>154325390if i have to find a tweet you made to understand your shit you failed as a writer
>>154329643goose knew that people would be coming to social media to say thank you for the finale so before even 5 minutes elapsed from the premier goose made sure the first thing you would see is that jax is both trans and a cuck, theres a reason why jax being trans was nowhere near a big subject a few weeks ago during the theatre run when people were watching the same episode, its complete nonsense post show hijackingif you can pretend you're a girl by putting on a shitty wig and wearing your mom's clothes i can pretend jax isn't trans, sorry nigga
>>154325390>boymoder??
>>154328559This, rightoids are actual NPCs.
>>154329779It's when a trans-woman (boy to girl) continues to present as a boy or even a femboy for most of the transition period.
>>154329779Extremely online brainrot dont bother. Most gays wont even know what that is unless theyre familiar with 4chan lingo.
>>154326567>Caine's arc is given equal relevancy and screentimeYou're correct. There's a quiet contentment with Cainefags because of this. Its just that the Jax portion of the episode is incredibly dull.
>>154329985Jax is a dull character. Trying to explain why a shitty person with no redeeming qualities that always goes out of their way to be shitty to everyone who makes the mistake of being nice to them (or being a woman) just isn’t compelling. Imagine if The Sopranos was just flashbacks trying to explain why Tony is a psychopath like it matters or changes anything
>>154325358Not only that, but he effectively killed Kaufmo too. Kaufmo wouldn’t have become so obsessed with getting out if Jax hadn’t made everything tense and miserable and driven Ribbit to killing herself.
>>154325390Talk about living a bubble.Get it?
>>154330043Yes, this is like the major problem with Tadc in general and why episode 9 is just so dull. Dedicating so much time to a therapy session like its something profound got annoying and tedious by episode 4. I know Jax is Goose's self insert or whatever, but lmfao, why the fuck is all the actual development and plot in the last third of the episode with Caine.Goose wanted the cake and to eat it too. I think even Jax fags would have been fine with it if Jax actually got the chance to do something.
Jax needed more screen time
>>154330090>KaufmoI've seen people complain about how a lot of the characters are just plot devices, but everybody seems to forget my boy. He is the very definition of a plot device, primarily serving to introduce to the audience the concept of abstraction. None of the characters are influenced in any way by any impact he left on them like how Ribbit and Queenie did. Kaufmo has zero impact on Jax's spiral into evil besides checking up on him at the wrong time. Fuck, even everybody crying over his funeral was to show Pomni that the circus members are able to get through the Circus by being there for each other.
>>154325390Either leave the ending ambiguous or go all in on the woke. I hate this halfway shit.
>>154325358They love this shit
>>154330264How does it make you feel knowing that a /tttt/ user made a show JUST for them and their own board.
>>154325358No refunds tranny.
>>154325390but this goes in the face of the ending itselfwe know real jax never trooned out, he sorted his life out and became actually happy, fucking like a 10 minute scene is spent on what the cast life used to be and where they ended upwhy make an one ending, then go on twitter and claim something else?did the troon forget what he wrote? then again the script was made few years ago, and all the drugs troons are on cant be too good for you
>>154329561>>154329536what in the world is /tttt/
>>154330975Its what the /lgbt/ board calls themselves jokingly.Browse the board for 5 minutes and you're realize so many threads are about trans stuff that the board may as well be called /tttt/ or trans-trans-trans-trans instead of LGBT(Because truly gay men can post on other boards about non-faggot shit and when they want to ass fuck they can do so ANY TIME, and lesbians dont have sex anyways. So the only people who care about their appearance and finding love are trannies)
>>154330975Another boring 4chan psyop, the self hating trans one
>>154331013as a fag yeah that makes senseI never felt compelled to go to /lgbt/ and the one time I did it was 99% trannies. Now I just go to /trash/ or /cm/ or catch the occasional /v/ cuteboy thread for my homo fix
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>>154325358Yes the point is that Jax is not a good person and they don't accept themselves.
>>154331013Just knowing how they act let me guess what was meant.The T's need slavish fawning and affirmation constantly, so them taking over any space that allows them in is pretty much a foregone conclusion.
>>154325390>BoymoderHoly terminally online.
faggot show
>>154329779Some troons are still sensible to realize they should keep their crossdressing kink in their room.
>>154330264Why the hell do they have so much indecipherable slang?They're not black.
>>154331840autistic males with nothing better to do love their adjectives
>>154329985The show definitely would've been better if so many episodes weren't just pointless filler like the McDonald's one seemed like it was going somewhere with gangle but then it didn't really materialize
>>154325654>The message is that if you refuse treatment for mental illness and reject friendship, you'll probably kill yourself.I'd take killing myself, but killing yourself seems very hard for some reason. There's a gigantic gulf between wanting to die and killing yourself. Over a decade wide, it seems. I felt like the realization that I don't have it in me helped me move forward, but I go back to hoping sometimes.Not a tranny, btw, just a faggot.
I don't even give a shit about the trans shit, there's just enough in-work content to support the read, sure.But why the fuck is it being normalized to take out-of-work tweets and voice actor opinions as gospel and justification? Is death of the author just thrown out the window when it doesn't suit?
>>154331887It would have been better if it wasn't just about Jax and Pomni after a while.
>>154330264>>154325358trans women are women because they are insufferable in the same ways cis women are
>>154331853>autistic males is when wordsautistic males still communicating better than women
