So is she lookin to get raped in front of her "friends"?
Preview and commentary.
>>154337848This Alejandro thing always felt really forced not gonna lie
>>154337848Wait, is Lucy mentally unwell?
>>154337865The sheer unironic entitlement born from zero empathy.
>>154337848>Lucy finally gives up so you should feel sad for--No.
>>154337848Notice Mike still not there in her nightmares. Always just Paulo, Sue, and Daisy. I remember somebody saying that they represent Lucy's guilt over them getting put in danger. Not Mike though, fuck Mike. I fear this is the more likely case other than Lucy resenting those 3 in particular. All in the effort to keep painting her as a saint and not a cunt.
I AM SAD, SO BAD, IM SUFFERING WHY WONT THEY READ MY MIND
>>154337925>I fear this is the more likely case other than Lucy resenting those 3 in particular.Well luckily the page comment for once eliminates all ambiguity: It's pure resentment on Lucy's part. "Mystery" solved.
>>154337848Are we sure this is a dream?
>>154337925I like the version where she doesn't see them as real people because all three of them harbor impure attraction to her, be it Sue's guilt, Daisy's jealousy or Paulo's attraction, it makes her feel like an object and literal accessories to what happened
>>154337865>>154337925>they represent Lucy's guilt over them getting put in dangerunlikely according to taeshis commentary. i know she shitposts with her page comments but they always had relevance to the page. i say this outright confirms that lucy does indeed resent her friends for not doing more to help her that day. and that mike was truly the only one she couldve count on.
>>154337848Why is Alejandro's boner shaped like a box?
>>154337878the whole thing was really out of nowhere
>>154337975Can't wait for Taeshi to treat that delusion as completely legit, with her friends apologizing for not trying hard enough. I'm sure that will go well.
I guess the video thing they did didn't show the entire dream then
>>154337878In what capacity?
>>154338027I could not care less about Lucy's trauma at this point because 1) it's insane and 2) only exists as an excuse for her shitty nutbag behavior.
>>154337975That coming out should be just as big a deal to her "friends" as Mike's part in her suicide attempt.>I don't care that you were getting your asses beat to the point of unconsciousness, you failed me.>But you also didn't stop them when they did that to us->FAILED MEEEEE!!It's so insanely petty but watch it be twisted to the friends admitting they haven't been doing enough for poor Lucy. Everything is such a fuckup it's insane, even recently with Paulo's dogshit gaslighting "apology" to Sue. It's presented as sincere, but there's no way in shit Paulo figured that out on his own especially with all the OOC therapy speak, so the only reason could be him hanging out with Abbey... but Taeshi can't give Abbey fucking anything so she bafflingly says it's Mike's(offscreen) influence.
>>154337848of course we got copium from mikespergs in the discord trying to pin everything on him lol
>>154337865>When are you guys going to do something?Like what? Does she want them to prove themselves by crusading through his shithole until they bring back his head? Or maybe they want to un-attemped-rape her? Force her into therapy which even her parents can't do? Enter the into-dreams machine and fight dream-jandro? What the fuck does she expects them to do that they aren't already trying already by giving her space, asking how they can help her and caring for her wellbeing? Does she wants them groveling and bleeding apologizing for letting it happen?
>>154338068Mikehater = individual who dislikes or despises the character (understandable)Mikesperg = individual who bitches and whines about Mikefags (hopelessly neurotic)
Ok I haven't read that part of the comic in forever but didn't Lucy like. Contribute to them ending up lost in that alley or whatever? Also what the fuck did she expect them to do?
>>154338116BPD author and Lucy is a self-insert. She's literally insane.
looks like taeshi and co. got a bit pressed about the augustus asks over the weekend
>>154338068butwhataboutMike.png
>>154337848I got a boner
>>154338032The story does not give enough weight to it for us to consider it that important now
>>154337975>Mike is the only "good" person exempt from her nightmares>Proceeds to side with Augustus, kick the guy, and essentially banish him in favor of surrounding herself with the people she is having nightmares about and apparently resents.
>>154338198But you need to understand that she never wanted it, so it's ok, she was just masking, she's a teenager her brain is still developing, everyone was being an asshole that day
>>154338108My apologies sir, I'll be more mindful of the vernacular
>>154338138Why is Sue tied up with Lucy's intestines?
>>154338068>But trauma isn't a reliable narratorDon't fucking give Taeshi more ideas damn you, the last we need is her doing lvl5 retroactive storytelling by adding more convenient flashbacks because "Lucy was under too much stress so she remembers things differently :)"So shut the fuck up
>>154338198Its cuz mike was a retard for taking back sandy and giving lucy false hope AND for being a retard who kept bugging her even though he promised he wouldnt
>>154338245Guilty that making her participate in the play that she wrote to make them both reconciliate fueled her suicide attempt
>>154338245This is likely symbolic, relating to Lucy's suicide attempt after Sue's play.
>>154337925It's two things. First there's Alejandro, then there's Paulo and Daisy saying she's a bitch (she is a bitch) and Mike was the only one who spoke in her favor, not Sue. Sue was too busy posing as being too smart for the foreground characters. So Lucy doesn't just resent them for not saving her: she also thinks of them as something Mike (the only person who understands me, and then abandoned me!) was rescuing her from.People are making up more favorable explanations than "Lucy is a two-faced rat who will hold grudges for years because you insulted her (while she'd insulted you)"
>>154338155A popular idea rattling around was that Taeshi resurrected the Confrontation thing to give Lucy a source of trauma more convincing than her literally childish rejection/abandonment issues. But then Taeshi surprised everyone with the letters bullshit so clearly that cannot be true. It's bizarre how Taeshi completely fumbles Lucy's twaumas, but that's yet more evidence that her personal priorities are completely out of whack.
>>154337848kek I was joking about Lucy wanting to get gang raped Tae. What a slut look at those tears of joy.
>>154338266But Lucy remembering things differently would still make her wong.
>>154338245Its from redditsawman Its her devil powers to control someone
>>154338268>false hope>kept bugging her
>>154338357Even if Lucy gives up in her dream and submits to a rape she never experienced, her only point of reference will be Paulo's disappointing performance in the dressing room. She'll probably wake from the nightmare to escape the sheer boredom.
>>154338312It is symbolic of Sue feeling responsible (more than the guy that gave her such bad sex she tried to die) for what happened to Lucy and how now she want to be her little lap dog, just like Paulo being a tool for propping her up that she doesn't even respect and Daisy disliking her but only there to make Lucy look good in comparison
>>154338397I mean the false hope part I kinda agree but the rest..
>>154338457>Kept bugging her even though he promised he wouldn'tNot his fault she teleports everywhere he's going.
>>154338379Yes but it would be an easy excuse for all the bullshit she puts other through and that she wouldn't have to change as a person to solve
How do we save Lucy from this trauma she keeps experiencing?
>>154338457The false hope part was entirely on Lucy.>slow down and go take a shower i don't want it that way!>wh-what do you mean you got back with Sandy?!>"no" meant YES
>>154338490Brain surgery. An alternative would be Lucy getting a hard slap upside the head, but she'd sooner elect for Option A.
>>154338268That's just one of those things that make so little sense I have trouble faulting Mike for it. Not even in a "Mike did nothing wrong" way, it was just fucking nonsense the way it all happened.Like, Sandy JUST admitted to cheating on you, who the fuck even picks up the phone? He's high after getting a kiss and getting with Lucy as well. There's no world in which that makes sense unless Mike is openly manipulative and just wanted two hoes, which he isn't written to be or he would've kept up the pretense with Lucy instead of telling fucking EVERYONE he patched things up with Sandy at school the next morning like a retard.I fucking hate EF so much, nothing makes any fucking sense why can't she retcon that instead of all the other shit?
>>154338490With how she processes things? Mike raping her.
>>154338457But false hope of what, exactly? Everyone keeps saying Mike owed her something but none of the things they said included a relationship, Lucy literally ran away before they could even discuss what happened both last night and that morning, she just felt betrayed because his availability was none. If Mike had told Lucy she was more important than Sandy or if he had initiated the kids (it was her, Taeshi's words) you could actually say she felt used
>>154338516Mike picking up could make sense from an overly-empathetic doormat standpoint. I hate Mike's characterization since around when Lucy came back, but him picking up was more in-line with that compared to his sudden cold shift during Another Flame.
>>154338490Make her dreams a reality
>>154338516Every time I read the part where Sandy blamed Mike for being unfair to her AFTET she cheated and asking him if "his love for her meant anything" it makes my blood boil
>>154338556initiated the kiss*
>>154337848
>>154338584Not in that headspace. If Lucy had rejected him, he'd gone crawling back to Sandy, and Lucy decided she'd take him the next morning just to see him saying how he patched things up it would've actually made sense. I guess part of Taeshi's scam there was making sure Lucy looked like a hapless victim of Mike's inconsistency, that's the only explanation that makes sense to me. If she rejected him it would've been partly her fault. Mike being a doormat can only excuse so much bad writing.
>>154338491>>154338556Look, i'm a Mikefag to the bone. I'm the "Mike Was Right" guy.But here, he fucked up
>>154338675He was right to give her what she always wanted now that he got dumped and was available.His mistake was taking Sandy back
>>154338675Lucy is the one to break things off and tell him to cut it out. In Another Flame, she again put her foot down saying they would not date, just stay friends, and that she'd have been fine if Mike had gone back to Sandy. Lucy's dishonest and unreasonable expectations/entitlement are her own fault.
>>154338651Mike being such a doormat in the first place was already bad writing.
>>154338700I agree with >>154338516makes zero sense, it pissed me off immensely at the time and it does not fit Mike at allBut at the end of the day, I still think he crossed a line here and knew what he was doing.
>>154338675Nah Taeshi fucked up writing EF. Lucy being there alone on the anniversary of her fucking suicide attempt already makes no goddamn sense, while ignoring how insanely convenient it was for both of them to even be there at the same time.Just fuck my shit up level writing.
>>154338738Taeshi needed something to up those reader numbers. Everything up until EF was just the most boring bullshit imaginable. So she wrote EF to be the most contrived, OOC, hot piece of shit of a chapter she ever made.
bro what the fuck is this comic even
>>154338729>But at the end of the day, I still think he crossed a line here and knew what he was doingSo here's annoys me about this whole thing: Besides Mike's self-admitted bullshit December speech meant to hurt Lucy back, this would be the only other example of Mike actively manipulating someone else for his own ends. Sure, it comes out of nowhere. Yeah, it's jarringly OOC. But if Taeshi wanted to support her accusation that Mike is a masterful manipulator, it would make sense to use this example.BUT SHE DIDN'T! SHE WENT WITH THE LETTERS BULLSHIT! TAKING CARE OF LUCY WAS ACTUALLY BADWRONGADONG!WHY?!
>>154338785Taeshi thought EF was a masterpiece and got completely blindsided by the sheer confused backlash it earned. The woman is just straight up delusional.
>>154337848Who the fuck cares?
>>154338738>Nah Taeshi fucked up writing EF.Well yeah, desu discussing this comic has become meaningless for some time nowI've never accepted that my boy Mike became a literal cuck
>>154338675I get the idea but it was a platonic thing, Lucy comes saying "you hated me, you wanted me dead" and his answer is how could I hate you when I'm reminded of you all the time? Yes it sounds like a cheesy line for a romance flick, but that's more on Taeshi's part
>>154338857Taeshi, Lucystans, and anyone else who has not yet figured out that bow cat is a horrible person who can never recieve enough asspats.
>>154338879I think Mike's bigger sin was pretending that he never hated Lucy. Man, who was he kidding? We all saw how hard he came to despise her. Or was Taeshi trying to retcon shit again?
>>154337971When that specific img was created, I was really hoping it was an exaggeration of a wrong interpretation. But the more time passed, the more the shitpost was holding truth
>>154338268>>154338516>He's high after getting a kiss and getting with Lucy as well. There's no world in which that makes senseYes, I completely agree. I have been saying this here ever since it happened.In no way any man, specially a teen who just got told he was cheated on by the cheater herself, would even consider going back to the cheater on the very next day, SPECIALLY because he connected with his old love immediately after discovering he was cheated on.It makes zero sense. It's a total disregard for any human emotion.EF was shit, yet the whole fucking comic hinges on it nowadays. It only added pointless drama and destroyed characters (specially Sandy) forever.
I like EF because it was peak bullshittery, more entertaining than LiTS
>>154338911I guess in her own head she's minimized the abuse that made Mike understandably hate Lucy in the first place and the rest is waiting for the retcons to catch up.
>>154338942The retcons Taeshi is neglecting to actually make?
>>154338942She already came out saying that Mike smiled once while being hit so he actually likes it so what's everyone saying abuse for
>>154339006>But my wife loves it when I smack her around a bit!
>>154339048Reminder that according to the Taeshi school of logic Abbey's dad is the victim
>>154339121That's gonna be my favorite ask for a while, it's amazing she even responded to it.
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>>154339157Did she try to dodge the implication?
>>154339369Absolutely. She can't deny that the asker was right using her own logic.
>>154339385My favorite part was when she pointed out how judging a kid for a past mistake like they could be held responsible was wrong. Sounds familiar?
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>>154339587Shift by 7, and you'll get it.
>>154339121His son is going to grow up just like him, hope he doesn't fall victim to being abusive as well!
>>154339633If she plays that angle to hype up Paisy, then I fucking called it.
>>154339702>Abbey is character assassinated further for the sake of Paisy.Now that would be Taeshi's Magnum Opus.
How would Abbey have dealt with Lucy if his and Mike's situation(only regarding Lucy) were swapped?
>>154339786Wouldnt have pulled the "You're a parasite and nobody wants you" thing. He would have just told her to go fuck herself, they were through, and left.
>>154339786I think he'd be sympathetic toward her but lose patience much faster, unless Lucy was pretty empathetic about his abuse situation. Like, yeah, she's overdramatic and hung up over stupid bullshit, but she's a good supportive friend where it counts.But if Lucy is a stupid careless bitch who believes letters > domestic abuse then I think he'd give her the cold shoulder pretty quick.
>>154339786I imagine that because of Abbey's mentality, he would endure Lucy's abuse for much longer until he has the terrible realization that he won't become like his father because he's already become like his mother, and he collapses in despair.
>So..... you wanna have sex?> I uh ok
>>154340091Just say you're sorry, stupid.
>>154340026That would make such a good story holy shit, in his insistence to not be like his father he finds himself letting the abuse flow the other way, that alone would be a good premise. Seeing his idea of the fairer sex challenged, wether defending himself would constitute as abuse, the possible bad PR Lucy would do for Abbey since everyone wants to fuck her and think it's worth the abuse if they get to fuck the bombshell girl making Abbey's see that his battle is also perpetuated by girls taking advantage of boys, etc.
>>154337848>>154337865This is why the dreams are a bad idea if she wants to make Lucy seem sympathetic, at least orgianically sympathetic. Anyone can pull up the pages of that event and see that her friends DID IN FACT try to do something. The only one that didn't was Daisy, but to be fair to her, she just saw everyone else get taken down with ease. Her not trying after that is understandable in that situation.The resentment only works as is if the narrative is that Lucy is actually supposed to be in the wrong. But Taeshi seems to avoid showing Lucy being in the wrong without an out, so here we are.Then there's the fact that Mike isn't here. If Mike isn't in the dreams then we have to take it as her not resenting him. Then what the hell was the point of destroying him in LitS? Why would you do that to the only person in the group you apparently don't hate from this situation?Also if you know WHO is on the phone then why haven't you confronted Augustus about it? Why put yourself through this constantly instead of telling him to throw the phone out or else?This is all very stupid and can only be a think because Taeshi can't stand to admit that Lucy is just nuts and fucked up without a cushion to fall back on.
>>154340440>The resentment only works as is if the narrative is that Lucy is actually supposed to be in the wrong.Agreed, and ironically that's the only route through which this dream business can work. Lucy coming to recognize how insane her gripe is, admitting to her friends that she's been unfair to them, and eating some humble pie would all work in her favor. But as you said, Taeshi is having too much fun indulging her BPD. Even if Lucy were declared wrong, it would be amidst plenty of excuses, abundant forgiveness, and endless asspats.>Then what the hell was the point of destroying him in LitS? Why would you do that to the only person in the group you apparently don't hate from this situation?Separate condemnations, it seems. Confrontation damns the friend group while the letter garbage is Mike's millstone to wear about the kneck.>Also if you know WHO is on the phone then why haven't you confronted Augustus about it?Some bullshit about wanting Augustus to be happy masking the fact that Lucy just does not want to admit personal weakness.
Happy late Father’s Day https://files.catbox.moe/ncwmmw.JPG
>>154340547>I must suffer so my pet rapist can be rewarded for being cruel to the boy I'm having romance issues with!I hope this comic goes on another 10 years, I want to see just how convoluted it can get.
>want to ask Taeshi a question>need to make a tumblr accountFuck it, not worth the effort>>154340652The longest of dongs
>>154337925I didn't say that WAS the case, I said it was the best/only way to explain Lucy's weird resentment other than "she's an entitled monster who thinks her friends owe her everything while she owes them nothing". As the pic >>154337971 shows, in the actual sequence of confrontation, Lucy came in only after Mike got hurt, and too late to prevent him and Sue getting KO'd. If Lucy had acted sooner to help her friends, rather than waiting until it was just her and treating the fight as an opportunity to show off, then they could have won without nearly so much danger and pain.But unfortunately Taeshi's not going with the far more sympathetic "Lucy is projecting her failures and shames onto her friends" angle, and is instead quadrupling down on "Lucy's friends owe her help, even when she makes it literally impossible for them to help her". Or possibly choosing to canonize "Lucy is so fucked in the head she subconsciously wants to be defeated and helpless and is unwittingly attracted to her almost-rapist", but there's no way that's true, r-right? S-surely Taeshi wouldn't write something as fucked up and evil as "character feels unloved, craves abuse and rape as proof someone cares". The implication that's the case with Mike is just... an unintentional fluke, me reading too much into it, not what Taeshi actually meant. Surely.
>>154340652Daisy is tall but her dad's dick is taller
>>154338198Mike was in her nightmares "originally" (according to the retcon flashback where she went to Augustus's house and her nightmares were first introduced), but seems to have dropped out of them after EF or something.
>>154340652I think I recognize this artist
>>154340547>Separate condemnations, it seems. Confrontation damns the friend group while the letter garbage is Mike's millstone to wear about the kneck.Then Taeshi is extra stupid because not only is the letter idea retarded, but Mike being in the dreams, even if that's just as dumb, would explain why she's trying to ruin him so hard. But then that would make readers wonder if Lucy plans to do something similar to the others as payback, and Taeshi can't have that because everyone is supposed to leave Mike and not her.
>>154340091>Wait for you to get back
>>154340440>Why would you do that to the only person in the group you apparently don't hate from this situationBecause she hates him for an entirely different thing IE him not making her his number and return to the status quo position of being her teddy bear punching bag of his own volition
>>154341145making her his number one*
>>154338675Yeah, but nothing in EF makes any fucking sense.>Mike is back to being a spiteful goblin, making the last several chapters of him getting over that shit pointless>Sandy NEVER calls and it's driving Mike insane! (please ignore that we saw her call Mike literally the chapter right before this one)>Sandy was always there she just wasn't picking up also she cheated (entirely offscreen)>Mike trashes his room and runs outside because overemotional=compelling drama>Lucy jumpscare (why the fuck is she there, why would her family allow her to wander around alone on a winter night, does she go to that tree to mald literally every night?)>Mike going "PLEASE DON'T HATE ME I NEED YOU SANDY CHEATED" like a crazy person>It somehow fucking works???>Once they exchange lies about how they never hated each other, Mike and Lucy slip right back into being sarcastic slightly-flirty besties as if none of the shit since Volume 1 happened>Complete with an impulsive kiss in response to a romantic moment immediately followed by tsundere denial, in proper schlock animu style >Mike takes Sandy back, also entirely offscreen (thanks Suitcase, very cool)>Lucy immediately crashes the fuck out because Mike betrayed herI can't even blame Mike or Lucy for any of it, it's such an inconsistent clusterfuck that my brain just writes it off as Taeshi fucking around.
>>154341207I think that's called writing yourself into a corner and believing you have enough storytelling expertise to get yourself out of it in dramatic fashion, but then it turns out you just have BPD and do not understand how people work.
>>154340652Have you seen the size of Daisy's dad? He's a munchkin
>>154339157>>154339369>>154339385wtf no way, have a pic?
>>154341892It's insane that she chose to answer that question.
>>1543420021) She's dodging the question (shocker)2) No, her friends have shown zero issue hanging out with Augustus if it means getting the chance to be with Lucy. See Witch Hunt, see the hangout at Burgertron.
In fact, you can imagine how much that question bothered her just by looking at the hashtags she uses when sharing a post about this subject.
>>154342002Mine again... I'm at 2/3 so far and I'm starting to feel bad.
>>154342090I don't know what's better. The first hashtag being "I'm sad that my fans have expectations..." or the rest of them, showing that she doesn't even realize that the main problem isn't entirely ethical, but rather that her favorite characters are protected from suffering negative reactions to actions they commit.
>>154342207Don't feel bad. Please do one about how Lucy's friends tried to help during confrontation and how Lucy refused to step in.Or do one about Lucy trying to rape Augustus.
>>154342207You can put on your fishing hat now, because you're becoming a Taeshi bait expert.
>>154340652Continuationhttps://files.catbox.moe/b7d6uz.JPGhttps://files.catbox.moe/671ulz.JPG
>>154342090It's funny that Flak0ps posted a twitter comment about how freedom from karma isn't the same thing as being immune to basic consequence. When even the self-admitted BPD-addled cheating addict can see the big gaping hole in Taeshi's thinking, and then announces it out loud, that makes Taeshi look both pretty stupid and definitely not in control of the narrative.
>>154342207I fucking kneel bait god we are unworthy of your presents We look forward to your magnum opus
>>154342248I would not be surprised if Taeshi knows full well what the problem is but would rather gaslight her readers and possibly herself into thinking she's this paragon of impartiality.
>>154342207Ask her how the residents of Roseville feel about circumcision
>>154342335flak0ps truly is the cutest kohai to come outta the bcb-sphere hopefully she doesn't listen to her insane senpai to much.
>>154342397I want to know if BCB hitler was a cat or dog.
>>154337848I've been gone for a month and feel like I missed something big.
>>154339996I agree. Abbey doesn't have that weird level of patience that compels Mike to put up with shit forever. Abbey's relationship with Daisy only lasted roughly a year, and he initially broke up with her after only a few months, when he saw her openly pine after Mike. Abbey wouldn't tear into Lucy, at least not as hard, but he also wouldn't coddle her like Mike did.I think that, assuming Lucy is the same (IE she still hits and talks shit), Abbey would go "leave me alone, I don't like you" much faster and more directly, probably before Acapulco/Silvershore or Lucy's confession ever happen. Lucy would presumably react to her favorite person not liking her the same as she did in canon, by going cold and hostile while trying to find someone else to latch onto. If it's happening in high school, Lucy probably picks Paulo, gets disappointed by his fuckboyism, and then picks Augustus, as in canon, leaving Abbey disgusted/worried. If December still happens, I imagine Abbey refusing Lucy's attempts to be friendly and sticking to "let's just get this done" the whole way through. If he does give her a speech on why she sucks I imagine it'd be less "I hate you, parasite" and more "You're fucked up, and I can't help save you from yourself".
>>154342334holy hyper>>154342425you just know bcb hitler was a cat supremacist. fire hydrant pissers get put in the camps
>>154342267>>154342302>>154342355>>154342397My 3rd from earlier today was something along the lines of saying how Aug hasn't really changed because he's still pulling the same manipulative stunts on people but it's treated as ok, and "I guess some victims are more equal than others." was in there somewhere.
>>154337975>i say this outright confirms that lucy does indeed resent her friends for not doing more to help her that day. and that mike was truly the only one she couldve count on.I aint even shitting on Mike but its not like the others weren't trying to do shit. That actually makes Lucy look worse since that means she treated the one person he felt she could count on like dogshit and couldn't even be honest with him? How the hell was the relationship not gonna fall apart?
>>154342729It annoys me how much better that four page long comic is than all the horseshit copium Taeshi pumps out these days.
>>154342002>Even David won't hang out with him.Actually now that I read it I think she's taking the piss now, she can't be so out of it to ignore how she writes Lucy's mom, Jordan, Matt, and Rachel all adoring him... but it's kinda dumb to do that where fans can notice that you're blatantly ignoring obvious shit you wrote.
>>154342706Hey, she can sometimes take time to respond, so don't worry!
>>154342958She took a day for the 2nd one so I was gonna give it a few anyways since I didn't care to check, at this point I'm either thinking shes trolling >>154342946 or is starting to crash out and is incredibly easy to bait right now. The thing about Abbey's dad wasn't mine, but when I saw that it's like holy shit she'll reply to anything.
>>154342706>how Aug hasn't really changed because he's still pulling the same manipulative stunts on people but it's treated as okThank you for that, I really wanted to see that.
>>154342090>I feel bad for people expecting consequences for every bad action.She does this depending on if a character is her favorite or not. That's the problem. Some characters get no consequences for bad actions.>If that means a character doesn't get punished, I support their actions?People are going to take that from a situation with how she writes. She was upset people hated Mike too much when she did nothing but show every bad thing happening to him was deserved for a decade. She JUST had to go bat for Sue on the blog post because in the recent chapter she was potrayed badly while she made Paulo look "Mature and in the right".>The Augustus "Joke"That wasn't a joke and we know it. In her mind LitS was what Mike deserved and she got upset whenever anyone asked if he could just leave the situation and move on, or just showed more sympathy for him in general. She still cannot wrap her head around why people hate James and thinks that a backstory will fix it.
>>154342002>All her friends wanted nothing to do with him.But then how do you explain LitS's ending? None of them say anything about Augustus because Lucy came back to the table. Yeah he went off to Rachael's group but he's still in a close enough proximity to the table group. The way she ended LitS means that she could have just gone back at any time because "It's all for augustus" as she claims. They don't even bring it up after.I like how she couldn't even say anything about James. I think even she realizes she can't justify it.
>>154342207Maybe you should make it at least a bit less obvious? The hostile approach does apparently work, but it's kind of fucked up how well it works.
>>154343077>She took a day for the 2nd one so I was gonna give it a fewWell, let's hope today is one of those days when she answers more than one question. If not, for today, we're just going to have her being passive-aggressive.
>>154337848thought she was about to get curb stomped inthat 3rd panel lol
>>154337848It'll play out like that scene in The Long Game where Shane fantasizes about Ilya fucking him on centre ice.
>>154343352I got a good one relating to Paulo, I'll shoot it off later.
>>154341207it's funny when characters start acting so strange and contrived to where they should be at a point in the story and it immediately makes them feel like poorly puppeted versions of themselves and you kept help but seen the puppeteer in the back from that point forward
>>154343390This reminds me how Taeshi used to compare Mike's sperg era to the writing in Bojack Horseman.
>>154343508Can you at least tell us?
>>154342090"I think people don't understand that not every character, even if deserved, will face serious consequences, because that's what real life is like. For example just because Lucy tried to rape Augustus while holding a position of power over him didn't mean he had to hold it over her all this time"
I for one am glad that Taeshi's gone full mask off and can't pick it back up without a lot of clumsy fumbling.
>>154338068Ignoring that you're both discordfags, they're completely right.>Mike's fault they got off the train in a ghetto>Mike's fault for doing the drinking candy game>Mike leads them down the alley>Mike smashes Alej/Toby's radio>Mike antagonizes them, insults them and refuses to give back the money>Most importantly, even after Paulo gets the shit kicked out of him trying to defend his friends Mike doesn't care and refuses to give the money back>Sue gets punched in the face, Paulo stands up and tries to defend them again, Mike still has no reaction until both Sue and Paulo have been getting wailed on for four pagesThen Mike loses a fight against two adults, which he instigated, resulting in Paulo and Sue getting assaulted trying to stick up for him, and Lucy getting sexually assaulted later on trying to protect him.
>>154344219He was drunk off his ass and a naive middle schooler, what do you expect?
>>154344219>Kid is tricked into getting very drunk>Blames him vs the adults who were intentionally doing it so they could rob and scam them after one adult was blatantly trying to come onto the 13-year-old girl.Retard.
>>154344219>Mike's fault they got off the train in a ghettoActually it's Sue's fault. https://www.bittersweetcandybowl.com/c14/p2Another 20 trillion pratfalls to failure cat.
>>154342090I think the tumblrites who actually try to analyze the comic, like that one she reblogged, are getting pretty fed up. Sue getting screwed over and eating crow so Paulo can be propped up for being """so mature""" while still being a rude asshole seems to have genuinely pissed people off, enough to critically reexamine other instances of characters being portrayed as "in the right", and BCB's moral framing as a whole.Before, I think there was an unspoken assumption: "Sure, Taeshi writes situations where mean jerk has a point, but that doesn't mean she or BCB condone being a mean jerk. Someone can be right about one specific thing, but still be bad in general and need to get better.". It seemed to be a core theme: Mike was right that Lucy was abusive, but December was over the line. Abbey was right that bullying is bad, but justice without mercy is cruelty. Paulo was right to be skeptical that Mike's LDR would work out, but was such an asshole about it he just made things worse. Augustus is a good friend to Lucy, but he's still an unrepentant jerk with creepy ulterior motives. And so on. It was trusted that all this narrative tension was going to be addressed; that just like Mike realized he'd gone too far, and Abbey learned to seek context and moderate himself, every character would eventually have their own moment where they go "oh fuck, am I a bad person?" and learn from it. Y'know, character arcs.But David, Paulo, Lucy, and Augustus have all these moments where they go "haha, being an asshole STILL rocks!", and Taeshi is going "what do you mean, why would anyone be mad at them? They're fun and right. I'm not writing some moral aesop.". So suddenly it's impossible to maintain faith that Taeshi sees being an asshole as a bad thing, because characters keep relapsing into their worst habits having learned nothing, and get rewarded for it; they guilt-trip, gaslight, and go for the low blow, and it works perfectly and they get what they want.
>>154344349>Mike can't be at fault because Alejandro and Toby are evil pedophilesYou'll realize two things can be true at once, I have faith in you.
>>154344590A naive and drunk middle schooler from the suburbs gets scammed and their group gets attacked by thugs.Let's blame them all for not just waiting for Sue's mom to pick them up while we're at it.
bark bark bark
>>154344463I like how this can be read both as "Mike is such a pleasing doormat that he has to be told out loud he's being abused and that's no good to act on it but since he's not used to it he takes it too far" and "Lucy is shocked because she's been found out"
>>154344671It's actually Lucy's fault for making them miss the bus. Lucy caused her own near-rape experience but blames it on everyone else.
>>154344754Can't tell if it's sarcasm, ragebait, or your honest opinion.
>>154344671Teenager gets drunk and then single-handedly gets his entire friend group attacked by strangers because he refuses to give up gambling money*>Let's blame them all for not just waiting for Sue's mom to pick them up while we're at it.What makes you think they weren't waiting? They were barely outside the door to the bar when Mike ran off down the alley, everyone else had to chase after him because again, they were trying to protect Mike from his poor choices just like the rest of the chapter.
>>154344798>Can't tellSkill issue
>>154344824I'm an autist, but it's probably ragebait.
>>154344463If Taeshi keeps this up she's digging her own grave. People hate being directed to reddit and we can be dismissed as trolls, but Tumblr is like the home for a lot of her fanbase and the moment the long posts analyzing the comic and bringing up shit like how some cats are more equal that others or the gay baiting she loves to do pop up she's going to be hit hard, not because it'll be spread long or because it'll be something that matters but because she's obsessive about how her audience interprets her comic
>>154344836>I'm an autistThat's not a surprise.
>>154344843I won't hold my breath since the cult has been lockstep for such a long time that any real dissent is reflexively verboten. Being too grumbly does risk permanent exile from the discord.
>>154344463(cont.)Meanwhile the characters who do seem to learn from their mistakes and try to be better keep eating shit for their efforts: Daisy gets belittled both in universe and by the author herself, called nasty things in the author comments and by her "best friends" for wanting some attention and basic respect. Mike has been miserable and guilty over Lucy for at least 10 years, and closer to 15 if you start counting from when he first expresses regret in Volume 4, but it's still not enough and being actively used against him. Taeshi has said she doesn't really care about Abbey and was "done with him" after chapter 69, and since then he's only been a supporting character for Paisy, a foil for Paulo to demonstrate how great he is by contrast and going "at least your fucking mother" with. Tess, Rachel, and Matt forgave Jess for being a vindictive psycho on a dime, and are just barely more relevant then the characters that got retconned out of existence.The only way to NOT get pissed off at all this is to read BCB without expectations or paying attention, just as a shitty little melodrama that you glance off of. But anyone who actually gets into it inevitably falls into a cycle of going "wait a minute, this sucks" and becoming disillusioned from the revelation. Some adopt the more casual position, treating BCB as a popcorn comic not worth the energy they formerly put in. The strongest of them realize there will never be a satisfying payoff and accept it, knowing there are many stories which suck, this is merely another. Those of weaker will are stuck here, in the interstice, their pained cries forever echoing in the depths... of the darkest fandom.
>>154343819Something saying that Paulo was basically forcing a situation where Sue would look like the bad guy if she didn't accept his apology and give him the tickets and how his apology didn't even sound in character. Just worded more like a girl mad at Paulo and not anything accusatory towards Taeshi's writing itself. I just wanna see how she bullshits an explanation for why it's good that Paulo did that.
>>154345014Yup, a abuse victim lashing out after being attacked for a decade gets shat on, but abusers and bullies get away constantly.
>>154344992I don't know anon, her cult seems very fickle, they're very comfortable but we have yet to see them when push comes to shove
>>154345014Sue is the key to all this. She sees what others do not see, and ventures where others do not go. Pure of heart, strong in spirit, but weak in body, she is the character most anathema to the crude amorality that lies at the heart of her world. She is a flame against the darkness, and while she may seem weak compared to other champions such as Michael "Diamond" Greycat, Abbey "Sin" Ian, and Sandy "Silk-Tongue" Kerriggan, Sue's apparent helpless in the face of horrors is precisely the fulcrum from which the matter may be leveraged: It is merely a glimpse of the edge of the abyss, but it is enough to trigger the cycle of revelation. Now, like us, they will begin to see things as they truly are.
The post that was under wasn't even >>154342002 but a reblog of a fan coming to Aug's defense that effectively amounted to:>He did suffer because he has a sad backstory!>And the real issue is the things dealing with what he tried to do to Daisy are all in paywalled BCIs so THERE!How the fuck do you convince yourself to defend something by saying all the shit that justified it was paywalled?
>>154346138Meant to reply to >>154342090
>>154346138Yes, but read between the lines: this is someone who likes Lucy, and by extension Augustus, admitting that Augustus-haters have a point, and that it's weird and uncomfortable how Augustus was slipped frictionlessly from "hated creep" to "well liked member of the broader social circle" solely through his friendship with Lucy. In the process, they admit that Lucy's joking about Daisy getting creeped on is fucked up.Even this person, who wants very badly to sympathize with Lucy and Augustus, who thinks Paisy is a great ship, who's favorite characters are Lucy, Paulo, and Augustus, is folding and going "yeah, my favorite characters are acting crazy and being assholes, and it's frustrating how they're able to get away with it scot-free".
>>154346417Nah in the hashtags he excuses Aug because he's "done well by Lucy" and earned forgiveness unlike Mike.
>>154346663To be fair you can also read it as "since he's done well by Lucy he's earned "forgiveness" so it'll be harder for shit that should catch up with him to do so as per the author's bias", which is something we have said as well, that being on her side is equivalent to being untouchable.It does bring a point I wish more readers would consider: everything is off screen, the suffering, the so called truces and interactions, they're all word of god and it's nowhere around. I don't think Taeshi will be able to hold all these pieces in the air because she just keeps adding more and more
>>154346663Yeah, the post itself is awful, basically saying that Aug's suffering in childhood and in BCI is already punishment for his mistakes throughout the story, and saying that him saving Lucy absolves him of the bad things he did before and after are terrible arguments, but the point is that, even this person trying to defend Aug lets slip how unsatisfying it is that Aug doesn't suffer any consequences from Daisy's sexual harassment; basically, even the most protective fans are letting slip the problems in the story caused by Taeshi's favoritism.
>>154346417Oh, I forgot that Paulo totally knew about Augustus creeping on Daisy. That honestly makes him being a-okay with his presence later during Witch Hunt and then the Burgertron all the worse.
>>154346880But it's ok because BCB isn't a moral comic(TM)!
>>154346894But that's how good Paulo is for Daisy! He wasn't going to mansplain her for hanging around with that guy who tried to convince her that she's a dirty whore who doesn't deserve any better than the smelly shoplifter. That's way better than that no-good sexist Abbey!>This is what Taeshi actually thinks.
>>154345014Ten years and her art really hasn't improved huh. At last she got the message about the weirdly detailed hands and stopped doing them.
>>154347083In never really has since the watercolor era. Everything since then has been a worsening or making pointless tradeoffs.
>>154341892FYI this was the post in question, >>154342002 was a different thing.
>>154337848It's really strange that she's smiling here, I know it's supposed to be Lucy resigning herself to her fate but I'm finding it really hard to believe anyone would be smiling right before getting raped
>>154347651You know damn well why she's smiling. Those are tears of joy.
>>154347651It's an anime thing, a character looking back with a smile on their face before dying or exploding or whatever, doesn't work as well when used in what looks like a transition into a rape scene
>>154347671She's definitely ignoring the question I sent about how he's still a manipulative bastard and hasn't really changed. It would throw a chink into this little narrative she's trying to weave, even she would have to see it.
>>154347671She's basically projecting her impartiality onto the criticism and thinking that fans want Aug to suffer simply because they don't like him, and not because it's frustrating that certain characters don't face consequences for their actions, since they're her favorites. Someone needs to send her a question explaining this.
>>154347671Sometimes attempted sexual assault is something good people have done and you need to get over it!
Guys it's pretty easy to send her questions, just go to the tumblr and there's a button for the ask blog, make a burner account, and there's a check make it anon if you want those still get responses.Just get yourself into character for the response you want... though holy fuck it's amazing the bait she's been responding to lately, still I think she's going to get bored of defending her precious Aug real soon so maybe pick a different target.
>>154347671>look Augustus stomped on Mike's balls so he's getting infinite rewards okay?>also Lucy not insta-winning the Mike Bowl the second Sandy isn't in his like anymore counts as an arc now
>>154347671I never thought about it before, but "you can't always get what you want" runs pretty deep through all the main charactersMike: PeaceLucy: Mike's dickDaisy: Mike's dickPaulo: Mike's dick
>>154348447Hopefully for Daisy and Paulo it will turn into a mutual: This relationship works out.
>>154347671>Sexual abuse is ok sometimes, as long as you're good now, as a treat :)
>>154348867It's a real shame that Taeshi cannot accept that characters are only really redeemed by taking action. Everyone in BCB is so damn passive. But then I doubt Taeshi herself ever does anything to make up for her own wrongs.
>Lucy when Alejandro is hitting it from behind and she's close to cumming but there's no more lube
>>154349254You don't even need to edit this panel, she really is just in position for backshots
>>154348936The problem is that if Taeshi gives in and admits attempted sexual abuse isn't something that can just be brushed aside and forgiven then she risks the same applying to Lucy, who doesnt have an excuse like "just wanting to help Augustus"
>>154342425He looked like Mike but with a 'stache instead of a scarf...Wait a sec...
So what the fuck is this comic about? I remember skirming through these threads a few years ago and i had no idea what the fuck this was about, it seems to be about some cat girl trying to get revenge at a cat boy by doing all sorts of convoluted and retarded shit?
>>154349895Drama shit.
>>154349895The author's poorly disguised BPD revenge porn
>>154346880I give that tumblrite a bit more credit than that. Their taste is clearly abysmal, given that they enjoy Paisy, but they display an impressive level of awareness and fair-minded honesty.They see and admit that their favorite characters (Paulo, Augustus, Lucy) have done wrong, and while they themselves aren't willing to condemn those characters, they understand that others may feel differently. They seem to find the double-standard where only SOME actions have consequences frustrating, as we do. They dislike Mike as a character, but still believe that he deserves at least a bit better than he gets and that the cycle of him getting kicked in the balls by fate is getting ridiculous and tiresome. They enjoy Paisy but are willing to admit that their chemistry is... lacking.Overall, I find them rather refreshing. It's interesting, almost nice, seeing someone who's clear-eyed enough to see the flaws and sins of the characters they like, and the redeeming qualities of the characters they don't, but also hopeful enough to hold that it's a matter of deliberate nuance, rather than Taeshi being inconsistent and morally vacuous as a writer. I do expect that this tumblrite will eventually be disappointed, but I respect their optimism.
>>154337848what tge fuck are you furrytards reading
>>154350318We are reading schlock. Sometimes the schlock does some true nonsense and these threads pop off, but most of the time the fun comes from shitposting about the schlock. Some of the most popular shitpost varieties include:>Gossip about the author>Assertions that the main girl in the comic is a psycho bitch, a sizequeen rapeslut, and/or fucking crazy (there are citations for these accusations, but they tend to get DMCA'd)>Arguing over which characters are most sympathetic / least awful (these arguments sometimes reach hundreds of posts with only a handful of anons)>Arguing over which of the two guys is the real main character: the soggy bitch or the sadsack cuck>Essayposting about how the comic lacks satisfactory character arcs, holds a deeply sexist and immoral internal logic, has major continuity problems, and seems wholly incompatible with what the author claims to intend>Ironic esoteric schizoposting about how the comic is secretly a gnostic fable
>>154349254>Lucy will never look back at you like this while you plap her, stifling her own pain for your pleasure
>>154337848>alejandro just gets to rape lucy in an alleyway surrounded by like 6 eyewitnessesi don't see in what universe this really makes sense but i guess its hot
If Augustus didn't entertain himself with Melanie, she wouldn't be hospitalised AND there is a high chance Alejandro wouldn't have molested the gang at all
>>154351684It's Lucy's dream, anon. She blames her friends for not stopping him when he tried to murderrape her.
>>154351758>Alejandro is the true victim We're pushing logic to places we might not come back from
>>154351684Consider Lucy just letting him take control of the situation when it's the money clear she's a victim is the ultimate victim fantasy, and she gets to be resentful about things that didn't happen
>>154349254>When the chapter has a Paisy segment
>>154350316It's good actually, that there's people with passion for the comic that are willing to question the narrative, it's the kind of people whose observations can't just be dismissed as hostility and makes others think more clearly. I'd love to know what they think of the whole bit of Lucy dangling the Daisy thing on his face constantly to the point of making fun of the event, while her own stronger approach was conveniently swept under the rug
Mike should just get raped by Alejandro to make things evenlike.
>>154353338It's genuinely disturbing how Lucy's attempted rape of Augustus gets brushed under the rug. In all honesty, Augustus should be afraid of her, and it should've been a wake-up call for Lucy or at least make her spiral knowing she perpetuated the cycle of trauma onto him.
>>154353637female Alejandro
>>154353724No, the same one
>>154353218Well this is taeshi's logic. Seeing as she says it's Abbey's fault his mom is dead.
>>154344463>there was an unspoken assumption: "Sure, Taeshi writes situations where mean jerk has a point, but that doesn't mean she or BCB condone being a mean jerk. Someone can be right about one specific thing, but still be bad in general and need to get betterI think this is my core issue with this comic, or taeshi in general. She's very clearly playing favorites with Lucy and Augustus, then again this chapter is so far looking to be Lucy being the one with the victim complex and not Mike like doomers thought. I've mentioned this before, I'm not after Augustus getting expelled, rejected from college, or even killed. I just want someone to call him out on his manipulative tendencies or even have him realize he fucked up majorly by keeping that stupid fucking phone like the selfish retard that he is. He keeps taking Ws even when he doesn't deserve it, his W/L ratio is massively disproportionate and that's what setting off readers imo.
>>154353218>Alejandro is the true victimBASEDDDDDDDDDDDDDDASED
>>154354190The problem is that the longer Taeshi goes rewarding this behavior, the more the audience will expect a larger comeuppance. I want it to kill his college application at least in this case, because it felt like the timing of that was he was being rewarded specifically for being a manipulative asshole over things that are partially his fault to begin with, so the expectation is that he's being set up for a big fall or at least would be if Taeshi wasn't playing favorites.
>>154354325It's already too late for any 'comeuppance'
>>154354190It's curious to me that readers can get bothered by Augustus' immunity to/violation of consequence but ignore Lucy's.
>>154354325I'd take something so simple as Augustus reconsidering his actions.>burnt-out Mike happens across a chance to destroy Augustus' college plans or social standing by airing his dirty laundry>Augustus realizes he's dead to rights>Mike decides against pressing the revenge button (probably out of sheer apathy)>Augustus has enough of a soul to feel guilty discomfort
>>154354190For me it's that Taeshi certainly enjoys her assholes and in her own words they're fun to write, and she's right they are, they're fun to read, BUT these aren't assholes, she keeps backtracking and saying how actually they're right, actually they weren't being assholes, actually they had good selfless reasons, actually it was out of love, etc. So she wants both her characters to be rude, manipulative, above it all, sarcastic whatever, but also wants you to be on their side no matter what, to be constantly justified in what they do. These aren't assholes, assholes get well deserved reactions from their peers, assholes get backlash from people tired of them, assholes can be selfish and extreme and boisterous, they can be annoying, but her characters aren't allowed to be called out, only she gets to play with them and say how the game goes, and the longer that goes the more it's obvious how forced the story is to accommodate characters being both
>>154354344That's because suitcase has a fucking iron grip on the community so being anti Lucy is a big no no, and the people that get frustrated about with her and don't just drop the comic end up either here or in the reddit. If you've followed the comic this long without quitting chances are you give Lucy a pass because she's the author's fursona and calling her out is useless
>>154354505If BCB is not a moral story in which the guilty get punished for their sins, one unintentional consequence is that Mike's accusers are quite likely wrong and his destuctive exile is illegitimate.
>>154354590I think it's more that Lucystans are so pervasive in the community, including the discord server mods. Of course they would try to choke out criticism by all means possible.
Lucy joining her school shooter arc?
>>154354800>No one of you helped, no one of you is free of sin
>>154354800Oh who the fuck even cares? All of Lucy's issues beyond her Mike Bowl obsession are so easily solved that she is an artificial victim. We've seen that the universe will haul out the snow plow again and again for her benefit.
>>154354800Maybe she's just in such a good mood because she enjoyed her dream?
The fact that we are supposed to feel sorry for Lucy, even though her asshole behavior is rooted in self-inflicted problems, indicates that readers should empathize with Mike during the sperg era.
Damn this shit's still running? Someone tell me if I'm still up to date after all these years>Mike still a cuck with his cheating gf>Paulo still gay questioning>Lucy still a bitch>Daisy still a doormatI don't remember any of the other characters
>>154355092Paulo and Daisy are now together but their romance is both unbelievable and unbelievably boring. Yet the comic insists on giving it focus.
>>154355092pretty much except daisy's also half gay and dating paulo now
>>154355092No questions anymore, Paulo's dating Daisy but won't touch her.
>>154354713I mean, the most rabid ones are the patrons who need to excuse their waste of money, so there's that, also according to the survey the discord is 60% male Lucy lovers, so it probably also borders on "she did nothing wrong" waifufaging
>>154355215Most dudes here would have an "I can fix her" obsession if she just caught shit for treating everyone else like crap.
>>154355324>Most dudes here would have an "I can fix her" obsession if she just caught shit for treating everyone else like crap.Now I'm curious, I think the closest thing to that would be pre-jump Lucy when she was mostly pathetic.
>>154347671It's obvious to everyone, fans and haters, that she's just playing favorites at this point. Every explanation just makes it more obvious."One of the upcoming themes is literally about not getting what you want lol!"You can't apply that to the readers like that because not only does that leave them unsatisfied which can snowball into feelings going into reading future arcs, but also,more than half of BCB's run is about a guy's life being ruined because he didn't give a girl what she thought she deserved after years of abuse.>>154354344Augustus doesn't have a sucide attempt as a "Get of of Jail Free" card
>>154355599>"One of the upcoming themes is literally about not getting what you want lol!"Which will frankly fall flat if it's about Lucy, since she has been denied what she truly wants for a while now. If it's just a gleeful excuse for more Mike torture, this seems like a bad time to twist the knife. If it's about Paisy, literally who cares? There will be no actual impact. But if it's about Augustus losing his shot for a better life, that could actually be interesting. So it's really too bad that Taeshi's been dismissing such notions left and right.
>>154354800>Lucy runs away from Alejandro in her dreams for months and comes to school grumpy and tired >Lucy finally gives in and spreads her legs for him, stops pretending she doesn't want it>Comes to school so happy she's manic all because she got piped in a dream by her rapist Not even SST was so naughtyI bet Lucy's next dream is going to be her seeking out Alejandro for a change, maybe suggest some new positions to prove she's finally taken control (by completely giving it up to him)
>>154355702So which character(s) will get blamed for Lucy's dream rape which she never fucking wanted?
>>154355731Mike, of course. He made her go into that stupid alleyway in the first place. That 11 year old should know better than to upset Lucy!
>>15435574213-year-old, but it's not like Mike is the one with a triggering phone in the house. Wait.>Lucy sometimes goes to Augustus' room>That phone is loud enough to hear from the hallway>Lucy has nightmares about getting nearly assaulted.Did it ever occur to the emotard that the nightmares might've kicked up after listening to the phone going off for a while & the fact that Lucy KNOWS who is on the other side? Or was blaming Mike just too easy vs admitting fault? If Lucy is somehow worse after ostracizing Mike & rejoining the table, I'll laugh.
>>154355845>blaming Mike just too easy vs admitting fault?I would assume this was where the story was going if it weren't for all the Tumblr posts acting like Mike was cat Hitler.
I went back in time, lmfao
>>154355702>The fate of anyone who ends up dating Lucy
>>154355845>Or was blaming Mike just too easy vs admitting fault?I don't think Taeshi is capable of entertaining this idea beyond calling it an interesting hypothetical that totally adds nuance to her character and then quickly discarding it.>If Lucy is somehow worse after ostracizing Mike & rejoining the table, I'll laughTaeshi claims this is the last chapter in which we see any of Lucy's nightmares. So either they will be shoved into the background (which seems unlikely due to their pity milking potential) or are resolved (probably in the dumbest, least satisfying way possible). If Taeshi has a talent for anything, it's deflating all legitimate drama from her alleged drama comic.
>>154355915Remember how she sat on and then fumbled Lucy's suicide reason reveal for years. She will easily set up big drama bombs and then not use them because she doesn't know how to deal with the potential fallout between characters
>>154349254I made a thing.
>>154356197Saved
>>154356167I wasn't bothered by the reasoning behind Lucy's attempt because it lined up with her characterization back during the December era. But the whole Augustus thing was handled in a downright bizarre manner and did not make much sense at all.
>>154356263I think he means she fumbled in that it became this deterrent that was only live to give Lucy a way to torture Mike indirectly, but that lost any actual importance because suddenly her friends already knew, and then the whole school already knew, and then they actually didn't know, and then some did and etc. Same as Paisy having the most wet pathetic confession
>>154356388Oh, right. Yeah, she seems to have no idea how to properly use what's basically the nuclear option, or else is keeping it in reserve. The back and forth on who does and does not know about the attempt suggests that Taeshi disregards established history and will say/write whatever is most convenient at the moment. Maybe someone should innocently ask her what's up with this obvious discrepency to see what she bullshits out.
>>154356197Here's mine.
>>154356497>Yeah, she seems to have no idea how to properly use what's basically the nuclear option, or else is keeping it in reserve.It's most likely the former. It would be the latter if she still had it as a mystery between everyone except maybe a few and kept it like that. There's no point in keeping it in reserve because she already had Mike exiled from the table. Unless her plan is to get the entire school to hate him by Augustus or Jordan mentioning it all to Rachael's group and they spread it around. It would be incredibly cartoonish at this point, but I wouldn't put it past her.
>>154356561Lucy is one of the top 10 anime villains.
>>154357645She's just an abuser who wants her favorite punching bag back by any means, and would probably do anything to make him suffer until he can't refuse her advanes.
>>154340091non ironically asked a ex-friend this exact same question once
>>154357742Did it work, anon? Did you get to fuck your friend before ruining the friendship?
>>154357736>She's just an abuser who wants her favorite punching bag back by any means, and would probably do anything to make him suffer until he can't refuse her advances.Anon, that's called a rapist.
>>154358089I'm well aware of what she tried to do to Augustus.She's also employed DARVO, lying, gaslighting, physical violence, guilt-tripping, and social isolation to break Mike down. My best guess is she wants to swoop in and get him when he's at his lowest.
>>154358289>She's also employed DARVO, lying, gaslighting, physical violence, guilt-tripping, and social isolation to break Mike down.So the only real difference is the intensity of employing social isolation and a reduction in physical violence since she used to hit him constantly. Has nothing really changed in Mike's life since grade school? Actually, that explains a lot of how Mike is. It does explain the need to find one person in his corner.
>>154358289Frankly, Lucy is not smart or devious enough for that. Meta-wise, sure, Taeshi might be doing this because she cannot see how it undermines her own therapeutic cope session, but I kind of suspect there is going to be this easily anticipated "twist" in which a broken-down yet now single Mike ever so shockingly still rebuffs Lucy.
>>154358372>Has nothing really changed in Mike's life since grade school?Yes; he's allowed even less personal dignity these days.
>>154358394>Yes, he's allowed even less personal dignity these days.Yeah, I don't think I would stomach the main comic if the sexes were reversed, but I would come to the threads for Anon x Michelle stuff. Taeeshi doesn't even have to change the excuses, just add a buncha retcons to Luke's life to justify him later trying to rape Augusta. Then again, she'd also probably make Luke more David/Paulo-like in height.
All of these cats would be happier without each other.
>>154355702>Lucy waits until everyone else is out of the house to seek out Augustus's phone>Has a smile when she gives up in her dreams and lets Alejandro rape her>Comes to school the next day looking manicOh shit Taeshi, wat are you doing. It's fine to write or enjoy rape erotica, but you're supposed to clearly label it as such, not genre-shift to it mid story!
>>154358640She's going to set the phone to vibrate and shove it up there.
>>154358462same comic with the sexes changed and either it isnt as popular or people are constantly asking for Luke's head on a pike.
>>154340652>>154342334Hot
>>154358648>people are constantly asking for Luke's head on a pike.After EF, it would be every single time page drops. You can't exactly reveal Luke tried to rape Augustua cause Greycat didn't let him hit, and there is no waifiuism to protect him.LITS might be nuclear tier:>Agusta shows and is gaslighting >Luke kicks Michelle in the guts.>Luke shifts the blame for the abuse onto Michelle with "you're all that I had.">Jamie turned out to be a snake and now simps for Luke. She ain't gay now.It'd be kinda funny after everyone calms down. The threads might have moved like lightning.
>>154337848Yes. In the authors retarded bitch mind, Friends giving Lucy space after her assault and attempted suicide is essentially like they're assaulting her as well.It's so weird, Taeshi desperately wants us to feel sorry for Lucy but she can't stop writing her like a total cunt who deserves to be ostracised.
>>154358988Almost like Taeshi herself is a total cunt who deserves to be ostracized (except unlike Lucy she's too weak willed to actually talk shit to people's face)
>>154359017Imagine getting this butthurt over a comic.
>>154359017Yeah, pretty much. Lucy's an idealized power fantasy/victimhood version of Taeshi and so how she's written renders Taeshi's own mindset an open book. It's hard or maybe impossible to unsee.
>>154359252It used to be better hidden but post december and espcially post return, it's been much harder to hide.
>>154358730What do you mean "might have"? These threads DID move like lightning during LitS.
>>154360353Yes but way faster & more angry/murderous.
>>154360841I doubt it. These threads were already furious.I don't get this whole "with the genders swapped people would hate Luke and be on Michelle's side" bit, as if that isn't already the case. People fuckin' hate Lucy, and consider Mike pitiable.
>>154361025NTA. We still have one or two Mikehaters that probably wouldn't stick to their guns if he were a chick, and I suspect most anons are talking about the larger community rioting.
>>154359252Lucy's a kind of power fantasy. Ever since Taeshi was a child she's been using Lucy as a self insert who dares to say the hateful things Taeshi only fantasizes, and everyone loves her for it.
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>>154361987>>1543422073/3! (Not counting the Paulo one that happened later.)But it's just not fun when she seems to react no matter wtf I do... I guess everyone knows how low the bar for getting her to respond is now?
>>154362258I guess this proves that Taeshi does not lurk in these threads like some anons keep imagining.
>>154362299no shit, taeshi can't even handle her own discord server, and suitcase probably only lurks to report shit
>>154362407>and suitcase probably only lurks to report shitApparently not to Taeshi.
>>154362433I meant like leaks, I doubt suitcase really reads anything
>>154362491He used to filter these threads and read her replies, but I doubt that's happened for a while now. Judging from the tumblr situation, he's gone totally hands-off trying to manage her intake.
>>154361025Yes but some people are way more willing too let a girl get away with shit than a male character. Paulo to Paula being a soggy bitch wouldn't be as bad but Daisy to Duke would be a stereotype nice guy incel. All the Michelle spergouts wouldnt be treated badly. 60% of Lucy paypigs are men so they'd shit to Michelle due to pussy privilege.Honestly the take of "Michelle can't adapt to shit" cause she can't live with the people who let get beaten by Luke since gradeschool would lead her dumbass to walk it the comment back due to all the hate for that blog post.>>154361987It's likely Augusta would become lucy if this blogpost is anything to go buy with her dogshit excuses.
>>154361987>People like this haven't been around people with life-long addictions who relapse every so often.Falls under the category of Lucy being a self-insert and BCB really being Taeshi nursing her BPD, cause here it doesn't matter what a shit someone openly is they're totally good deep DEEP down, meaning they need infinite patience to coax it out and ignore all the harm they caused during.
>>154361025Outside of here there'd be far less if any Lukefags in such a flipped sexes scenario. Main difference here is that anons here would also be raging on how much of a monumental faggot Luke was to not only fumble but assault a gal like Michelle.
>>154361987>bro just be sympathetic to assholes who cause problems and make things worse bro it's not their fault bro they're trying bro sometimes people backslide it's not a big deal just be patient with them not every day is a victory broIn general I have sympathy for addicts and fuckups and the like, and am of the mindset that harsh punishments and zero-tolerance policies only cause more harm overall. But that's on a broad, societal level. On an individual scale, if you know someone like that, someone who's mean, selfish, blames others for their mistakes, who finds cruelty funny rather than shameful, who keeps doing the same things, and who looks down on everyone else as "weak-willed" or "stupid" for NOT being as mean and selfish as they are, you cut them down and don't pick them back up.That's my issue. Not that Lucy or Paulo or Augustus have done bad things, or even that they're asshole enough to revel in it and keep doing bad things despite claiming to have "learned", but that no-one in universe is allowed to fight back. Abbey gets "at least your mother fucking loved you" and suddenly all is forgiven. When anyone (Mike, Daisy, Madison) doesn't like Lucy, they get mocked and ostracized until they take it back. Lucy and Paulo blatantly bully Sue and she just has to put up with it because otherwise she's being "petty" and "mean".
>>154362920>raging on how much of a monumental faggot Luke was to not only fumble but assault a gal like Michelle.Pretty sure some would call him a faggot gayer than Jess and lament Carrie(carson) not molesting Michelle(unless carson was butch). Plus Michelle being a lesbian magnet in middle school. Would Paula & the dog have been grabbing Luke dick and or nipples pre retcons if we have to keep the assault in? Does that mean Duke was trying to force himself on Michelle during the friend date? I have no idea how Luke wouldn't get sent to the principals office the 3nd he sticks Michelle in public. I know this applies to Lucy too but people freak out way more when you hit a woman.
>>154362920Reminder that you faggots hate the entire female cast so much you had to start shipping Mike with an OC whose only personality trait is loving Mike, but sure it's everyone else who has a gender bias.
>>154362920I think that there'd be a contingent of trolls/contrarians in such a scenario who would maintain "Luke did nothing wrong at any point, Michelle is a bitch for breaking her promises :)" with an unclear level of irony. Those people already exist without the genderswap, but I imagine they'd be more active.I think the more interesting part of a r63 AU would be the Abigail/Danny/Paula love triangle. I imagine Abigail as being traumatized like Abbey is, but due to being a teenage girl instead of a boy, strangers don't see Abigail as a potential threat, which ironically makes her a lot more dangerous because she hasn't had to learn self-restraint as quickly as Abbey did. Paula is still a slut who tries to fill the void in her self-worth with sex, but she does compensated dating and such for money instead of working fast food. And Danny is the nice guy who looks at these two and goes "I can fix them!"; he's proven partially correct with Abigail, who eventually breaks up with Danny after realizing he doesn't really care about HER, he just likes having a girlfriend. But when Danny starts pursuing Paula his life turns into an NTR; They eventually get together, but Paula wants to "take it slow" all of a sudden and will barely give Danny a peck on the cheek.
>>154363421>Entire female castNo. Rachel and Amaya are cool. Daisy is also fine to a lesser extent. The hate is mostly toward Lucy because she's a piece of shit yet everyone and everything bends over backwards for her despite being more guilty of the things she gaslights others as being.Besides do you deny the sexes being flipped wouldn't come across as even worse with Luke smacking a nice loyal girl like Michelle around for years? There'd be next to no actual Lukestans outside of shitposters
>>154363444>But when Danny starts pursuing Paula his life turns into an NTR; They eventually get together, but Paula wants to "take it slow" all of a sudden and will barely give Danny a peck on the cheek.>Danny is "Husband material".Paulo fits well as a woman. I am now mad. Wait wouldn't Paula just be a Lucy? We refer to Paulo as male lucy due to favoritism.
>>154363421Are you trying to say a hypothetical Luke wouldn't be utterly despised far more than Lucy currently is?
>>154363498Kind of only far less mentally ill
>>1543634211: she's a fan character with hardly any artwork about her (comparatively).2: I have added birdwatching, swimming, wrestling practice, working at a retail store on the side, and she's slightly clumsy and scatterbrained (due to being a bit excitable) and really knows how to brighten a room effortlessly in my version.
>>154363533Least Paula can be chucked up to developmental issues due to being abandoned by her father and lack of access to maternal affection due to her mom being absent due to late work. Still not justfcation to be a hoe but whatever.Luke/Lucy acted like this before ever nearly getting assualted.>Countless grade school teachers just watched Luke beat Michelle.
>>154363421>4chan anons are sexistYou don't say. But seriously, of COURSE these threads are biased: If you suggest Mike's made mistakes or could do more to help himself, no matter how sympathetic you are to him in the process, it blows up. The main suggestion for what Lucy needs to get better is "rape". Side characters get vitriol purely for not being sufficiently "on Mike's side".But all that being the case doesn't mean Lucy ISN'T a fucking psycho. Lucy is capricious, cruel, and utterly crazy, but she gets excused and given a pass because she's a main character.I do agree with you though, in the sense that I seriously think that with a r63 version of BCB, Luke would STILL have fans and apologists. Lucy doesn't get a pass just because "she's a girl", she gets a pass because like half the pagecount of BCB is dedicated to showing how sad and sympathetic Lucy is while excusing her shitty actions. Meanwhile the characters she hurts or screams at barely get a chance to go "ow that stung" before the comic moves on. In a genderflipped version that'd still be true, and Luke would have legions of fans going "he's not that bad", "he's my lil' skrunkly", "I could fix him", and so forth.
>>154363421I diagnose you with terminal will never feel a woman's touch.
>>154363665I don't think that people deny he's made mistakes or could improve, it's that he can't improve or ever be right due to the author.
>rewarding stale baiting retard with serious answers
>>154363501The only people that despise Lucy are the handful of people in this thread, and there's no doubt in my mind you guys would be calling Michelle a bitch for leading Luke on because everytime Taeshi has Mike repeat something that Lucy did everyone here sucks his ass about it while simultaneously crying about how different it is from what Lucy did.The contention that >Well Lucy is only forgiven for her actions by the community because she's a dang womanIs complete copeAside from Lucy, the top two favorite characters in this comic by a WIDE margin are:>Paulo, a male character who molested half the cast including Lucy and hasn't grown much beyond being a misogynist bullyand>Augustus, an edgelord who sexually assaulted and gaslit a girl on screen but Mike's hated because he's a male>>154363665I agree more or less, but at that point people should be complaining that Taeshi isn't doing any of the legwork in actually making Mike sympathetic instead of just pretending everyone should feel bad for him when the author hasn't actually included any reason to, for every bad thing Lucy does we get 2 or 3 chapters giving her an out, for every bad thing Mike does we get a panel of him making a frowny face and saying "I... am... le sad?" and the handful of troglodytes who suck Mike's dick applaud.>>154363794>tears literally falling from your face as you beg people not to talk about the comiclol
>>154363421Actually anon, it's so "bad" that there's TWO of them!>>154356197Saved x2. These dreams have been surprisingly boring. At least make hands come out of their faces or make the architecture slightly more off kilter.>>154337848What's especially weird is that it's like Lucy knows it's a dream almost. The last time I had a nightmare, I realized that a killer animatronic was in my not-house kitchen and I just grabbed a knife and killed myself to jolt myself awake because I was not going to deal with that. Why doesn't Lucy do that in her dreams huh? Don't ask Tasehi this, this is a thread question.
>>154363885>tears literally falling from your face as you beg people not to talk about the comicSpectacular failure at reading comprehension.
>>154346417oh no, augussy had a rough childhood :( as a dr i prescribe him to go rape! rape to his hearts content!
>>154363891Why kill yourself awake when your dream just got to the good part?
>>154363665My only counterpoint to this is that the comic showed plenty of Mike feeling sad about his role in Lucy's life.That said, the closest living male relative to Lucy, Jax from TADC, does have his fans and people who say he got done dirty in the finale here on the board, but broadly he at least seems to be disliked.>>154363891>spoilerYou get those dreams too?
>>154363891>>154363988I once tried playing FNAF2 without volume when I was younger, and then scared myself shitless when the puppet jumpscared me.
>>154363988>living
>>154364069
>>154363988Well it was the last one that I realized and chose to wake up from. Never even played it, friends just talked about it too much. The actual last one was people in mario brothers clothes digging a grave for something at the edge of my grandparent's corn field.>>154363943It'd be interesting to actually delve into why he done that or how he feels about it now, even if it was in self delusion about how he would have never of took it too far (and him being torn up about that). Actually would inject some energy into it. Which could have happened with the Paisy chapter but nope. couldn't have happened.
>>154363988I dunno. The majority of the show had Jax getting dunked on for being a cunt
>>154363885Mike is also a main character, and gets TONS of time devoted to showing how sad and pathetic and traumatized he is. Even chapters where Mike isn't relevant and doesn't participate in the plot get bookended with pages of him moping about. The only difference between Mike and Lucy's "I only yelled at my friends when they were trying to help me because I am... le sad!" shit is that Mike is less of a black box, since he never left the comic for 9 months.I also think you're underestimating how contentious Mike and Lucy are in general. Lucyhate and Mikefaggery exists even in the "official" spaces. There's "Mike was right" posts even in Candybooru itself (pic related). It's just more extreme here because 4chan moderation is extremely permissive, while suitcase is infamously draconian and will permaban people over minor disagreements.>>154363891Presumably because the dreams don't have any easy means for Lucy to trick herself out of the nightmare. It's just a maze of alleys so there's no high places for her to jump from, and there's no knives or poison or pistols-with-a-single-bullet available either.
>>154364069He overdid it on the "fail to kill yourself for sympathy points" step, classic blunder.>>154364375The main difference for me is that Mike (usually, RIP Sue) gives as good as he got. Mike has way more reason to distrust Paulo or Lucy's comments on his relationship with Sandy than Lucy does to distrust Mike or Sue.>>154364149Dreams are so stupid.
>>154363988Almost everyone in that finale was done dirty, the Jax discourse is just sucking all the oxygen up due to it hijacking most of the episode.>Pomni suddenly turns into an oblivious idiot when Jax is half-way reaching out.>Jax abstracts off screen and his bullshit with Ribbit takes up half the fucking episode.>Gangle does nothing.>Zooble just uses her parts as a rope to save Pomni but doesn't contribute much else.>Ragatha has been Pomni's best friend, apparently... does nothing else.>Caine isn't deleted!>Bubble is gone though.>Kinger continues to be the best character, no problems here.>No Gummigoo anywhere but here's a cameo of the fucking Gloink Queen.
>>154364375I miss striped scarf Mike.
>>154339996>she's a good supportive friend where it countswhat comic are you readingshe very pointedly doesn't consider anyone in her orbit a friend
>>154365464do you not understand the concept of hypothetical scenarios
>>154340763anon i don't know if you know this but Taeshi is actually quite misogynistic. your spoiler is only implausible because Lucy is supposed to be a sympathetic self-insert woobie, not because Taeshi has any qualms writing such a plot.
>>154363421>Implying Rachel, Amaya, Daisy, Stacey are not canon characters nor womenBravo!
>>154342451you didn'tunironically nothing important has happened since the Paisy date started
>>154355092Paulo might be the gayest character in all of fiction.
>>154363885>Paulo, AugustusYou know this argument's self-defeating, right? We (yes WE as in YOU and ME) hate Paulo and Augustus despite them being men, ergo we don't reflexively take the man's side.
>>154365786You're arguing with some bored autist using deliberately shitty arguments to stir up the thread or, alternatively, is too stupid to reason with.
>>154365817I just wanted to get it off my chest, it's not like anything interesting has happened in over a week anyway.
>>154363498I'm telling you, it's rough out here as someone who likes Daisy. You think MIKE doesn't get respect from the author, that he gets sidelined by Pauloshow too much? Daisy hasn't had a chapter to herself in more than 10 years! And any time Daisy dares to complain about how no-one respects or listens to her, she gets accused of being a whore by Taeshi.
>>154365857I'd say Daisy is better off by virtue of being ignored. She hasn't been too badly torn down, just square peg through round holed into a boring relationship that allows her shortcomings as a person to remain unexamined. Very bad in most other comics but perhaps the best she can hope for in BCB.
>>154365786Anons hate Paulo more for being annoying to read years ago during the 'Polo Show' era and having the most boring non-romance imaginable today than for anything he's actually done in the narrative.There are spergs who act like he's done James-tier betrayal, but they memoryhole stuff like the fact he checked on Mike immediately after LitS, and Mike brushed him off.If you want a male character properly hated for being a persistent piece of shit in the story and not even an attempt at a 'redemption' arc, there's always David.
>>154365941>There are spergs who act like he's done James-tier betrayal, but they memoryhole stuff like the fact he checked on Mike immediately after LitS, and Mike brushed him off.I don't hate Paulo and the idea that doing the absolute bare minimum grants some kind of resolution is laughable.
>>154365924Yeah, but like I said, Daisy is basically living out an NTR. She got with the school slut, and now he claims he wants to "take it slow" all of a sudden and won't even kiss her. Daisy's life is fucking humiliating, and every time she dares to argue back she gets shut down HARD.>>154365941I fucking loathe Paulo, and am at best indifferent to Mike. He's a flakey bitch of a friend to Mike, but that's not WHY I hate Paulo. I hate Paulo because he:>is a flakey bitch of a friend to Daisy>is a straight-up bully to Sue and Abbey>broke Jasmine and Rachel's hearts>keeps hijacking more interesting plotlines about more likable characters so he can bitch about how unfair it is that everyone thinks he's an asshole just because he acts like an asshole
>>154365786>>154365817>start jerking yourself off just to strawman a quote out of thin air and say "I can't hate all the female characters because I also hate some male characters"I actually can't believe you were this excited to say something so stupid.>>154365857You should do a graph for who gets the most panels per chapter, I bet it would look even worse.
>>154366081>She got with the school slut, and now he claims he wants to "take it slow" all of a sudden and won't even kiss herI wish the Paisy narrative was even this barest iota of interesting. Instead we're supposed to take this as love, soft as an easychair.
>>154366236Can you please stop being the most fragile little snowflake in these threads and actually come up with something worth arguing about for fucking once, or are you too busy sucking off your own persecution complex?
>>154366236Alright, then I'll be more specific: the thread, broadly, took Sue's side against Paulo in Tickets Please. The thread, broadly, liked it when Rachel blew Paulo off at New Year's. The thread, broadly, was upset when Rachel started thirsting after Augustus in LITS. You are currently part of a conversation about how Daisy deserves more attention from the narrative. These are just the examples I could think of while half-dead at 3am.
>>154366281Sorry I just found it hard to believe two separate people thought something so fundamentally stupid was noteworthy and were equally eager to completely sidestep an argument like a malding pussy.>make up a false equivalence argument out of nowhere>still lose somehow>this is my fault for some reason
>>154366469>Sorry I just found it hard to believeYes, given that pissy low-watt approximation of a thought process, I'm sure you have trouble believing a lot of things. Like the Earth being round.
>>154366397Most of the positive Sue-posting during Tickets Please was me and they were in a sea of people shitting on Sue for slighting Mike in the past.And yes /bcb/ turned on Rachel as soon as it was clear she wasn't an empty slate to ship Mike with, which was after New Year's, which was my entire point and what I already said.>You are currently part of a conversation about how Daisy deserves more attention from the narrativeI'm aware we have one Daisyfag here yes, I'm also aware that he's alone and gets dogpiled pretty much everytime he posts explicitly because of Mikefags reacting with bile to any hint of dissent from the partyline of "Mike is right", so yeah you've got me there but it's a total outlier and the exception to the rule.<@:^)>>154366604>Reddit: The PostOh My Science...
>>154366081Rachel never actually cared, Jasmine couls easily do better, and the main reason is exactly the meta one I described (it's just annoying to read when he's the focus). He is legitimately afraid of Abbey at this point. And him being flaky with Daisy hasn't been relevant for years. It's also been a long time since he truly bullied Sue - incessant bilateral arguing isn't the same thing.People in this thread tend to really struggle to internalize just how long ago nearly all of this stuff stopped being relevant to the comic. If Taeshi doesn't write the comeuppances you expect for 20 years, at a certain point it's not on Taeshi that you still want them to be written and haven't satisfied yourself with fanfiction and moved on.>>154365994A high school student can't be expected to drop everything to be a personal therapist, even to their best friend. That's not a character flaw, it's just life.Like it or not, by this comic's standards (and by real life standards unfortunately), Paulo's done more there than most would have, and in fact more than anyone else - including Daisy and Sandy - have done. One could hold that over everyone else's heads in a misanthropic way, or just take things for what they are on the page, but either way the 'minimum' there was apathy.
>>154366236>You should do a graph for who gets the most panels per chapter, I bet it would look even worse.I'm not putting that much work in, fuck you. But that's almost certainly true. A lot of chapters start, end, or have intermissions showing what Mike or Lucy, sometimes Paulo, was up to. I didn't list those chapters as Mike/Lucy/Paulo chapters, but for some recent ones in particular, like a third of the pages are character(s) irrelevant to the actual plot, moping around doing nothing. Contrarily, Daisy (and most others) almost never show up in chapters that aren't about them, and when they do, it's only for a few pages at most.>>154366727I will not stand for this stolen valor. I was there, preaching about how Sue is best girl. I am not so proud as to claim to be the only one, and I respect all who joined in that noble cause, whether loyal Suefags or late converts. But you can not claim to be the sole defender of that hill.
>>154366727>And yes /bcb/ turned on Rachel as soon as it was clear she wasn't an empty slate to ship Mike withHallucinations are a hell of a drug.
>>154366807Anon, Paulo tried harder with Lucy twice over and at least once Mike back during his sperg arc. This was minimal effort by Paulo's own standards.
>>154366866He still doesn't know what happened outside during LitS, and Mike was the only one who could have told him given the way Taeshi wrote everyone else involved in the dogpile. Paulo also wasn't super free given the looming shadow of the Paisy date that subsequently consumed the focus.It's bad timing, not a slight. It may still have consequences for Paulo, though.For whatever reason, with this pair of characters in particular, Taeshi doesn't write them like they despise and compulsively exploit each other, so stuff like this never turns into a permanent grudge like it might with a lot of other characters... but it also does tend to have consequences instead of being forgotten, like stuff is for other characters. They might not be consequences everyone agrees with, but they do happen. Taken as a whole history, they've got probably the closest thing to healthy conflict resolution in the comic.Maybe Taeshi just can't bring herself to commit to them hating each other - I don't know. But I still don't get how she can write character interactions like that and then simultaneously allow David to... exist. It's incoherent, but fascinating to watch in a similar way to the LiveLeak videos of yore.
>>154366807Okay, now I know you're just being a contrarian. Paulo was being an asshole to Sue just last chapter. Rachel very much cared, and the fact that she and Jasmine could do better than Paulo (he is a failure state) doesn't mean he didn't break their hearts. And he's been flakey with Daisy several times recently, including both immediately before they got together, after they got together, and WHEN they got together.
>>154365941With the LitS bit didnt he only check on him by coincidental run in and the reasons anons called him a bitch nigga was that he immediately folded to Lucy, proving once again that he holds her in far higher standing than he does Mike. This is made all the more frustrating when Mike has shown to be there for him when he is at a low point like with his mom spergout while Lucy had used him as a tool and tossed him aside in the span of 15 minutes
Something must have happened on /bcb/ because when I joined some years ago people were not this stupid. Not the anons, not the ragebaiters, not even the tourists. Or maybe I changed, and this is not entertaining anymore
>>154368577At least two anons, maybe more, make it sport to argue and call each other names in every thread. Whatever batch of /bcb/ participants they came from seems to have infected these threads like a virus.
>>154368325>recentlyAnon I don't think you realize how long we've been in Paisy purgatory. This is what I mean by not internalizing how long it's been.And Sue gives too much back for it to be actual bullying. Bullying is more one sided, it means more than just "is an asshole."I could've worded it better; it's not that Rachel didn't care, it's that she's already over it and got there pretty fast.My whole point is that, whether you agree with it or not, the comic is not hanging these events around Paulo's neck like albatrosses. Most of them were resolved in the comic literally years ago in real time. If you're holding out hope for something more personally satisfying than what you've already gotten as resolution, you're not going to have a good time (unless you reach the point of truly enjoying your anger, instead of just almost).
>>154368508No, he goes to Mike at Mike's locker. Just a misreading of the scene.
>>154368577>anymore
>>154368508Moreso the latter bit but that was just another smaller piece of why LitS was shit
>>154361987>Falling back into a bad habit temporarily doesnt erase all attempts.But he never really escaped it. He just didnt have a target. Abbey wasn't around and there's nothing he can say to Paulo that wouldn't end up with him decked either way.>I hope people who feel his way about Augustus aren't arouind people with frustrating life-ruining addictions!Having known a close family member with an addiction that took them years to break, this actually pisses me off a little. Augustus doesn't have anything like that. He's got nothing actually fucking up his brain on a chemical level. He just up and decided to do so because Taeshi's stupid ass didn't bother showing what made him come to this conclusion in the first place. Not to mention, a lot of people with addictions, while they get sympathy, they aren't given a free pass to keep up their bad habits. They either get tossed somewhere for major lifestyle changes and get help or everyone around them keeps them at an arm's length or cuts them off completely. You might not want to do the latter but sometimes that's just all you can do.>No justification, just cause and efffect, Just what the characters would do, that's all.She just gave him a justification in the same paragrah. You can't say "Oh it's just cause and effect" on something like LitS and think it stops once that moment is done. Mike's exile would eventually roll into everyone else wondering what the hell happened and the others having to actually explain themselves. not that stupid "LOL SO FUNNY!" explanation David gave Paulo.She does not want to admit that Lucy's new white knight was actually a dick and did something that would have bigger consequences than she wants to believe.
>>154362004>The story is planned outSaying this when you recently revealed you finally have a reason for why Lucy came back after years in real time and had to pull shit out of your ass like the dreams and the fucking letters.>Explain my master stroke>MasterLOLLMAO even
>>154363421Stacey, Rachael, Amaya, and Jasmine are well liked. Tess is too despite her being written out.Daisy and Sue have fans that dislike them here but they also have people that like them. Despite her attitude, people still like Sue because shit actually blows up in her face. >AmyYeah she can come off as one note for a fan oc, but it's basically balancing out how NOBODY in the comic really likes Mike and how bad shit keeps stacking for him for no real reason.
>>154363665>If you suggest Mike's made mistakes or could do more to help himself, no matter how sympathetic you are to him in the process, it blows up.Nobody's saying Mike hasn't messed up. Its that he makes mistakes, recognizes he did and apologizes, and gets overly punished for it by the narrative when other characters catch less for doing the same or worse.>Helping himself.Taeshi gets annoyed at the idea of Mike trying to better himself or even just leave all this scorched earth behind for a better area. We're at a point where it's clearly not the character's fault that he can't get better, that it's incredibly obvious the writer doesn't want him to.>Side charactersThey get shit for not being on Mike's side when they should at least make attempts. Paulo caught shit for the end of LitS becauseof how easy of a counter he had to Lucy's "Blackmail" but he didn't use it. He just sat there despite knowing something was up. Of that table group, he and Daisy would be the ones most likely to go check up on him.Sue got shit for being a grudge holder while trying to get close enough to lucy to smell her breath. Telling Paulo to basically forget about Mike because lucy came back did not look good. But now she's most likely to become the gang's new "Mike", so we'll see how that plays out.
>>154365857>Daisy hasn't had a chapter to herself in more than 10 yearsIt's never been so over for Daisy fans, she's never getting her own dedicated chapter ever again. Forever attached to Paulo as his perpetual glazer and shall serve no other purpose. If she ever does seemingly get her own chapter, it's just gonna turn into Paisy/Pauloshow ten pages in just like what happened last chapter when it supposedly a Sue chapter. Taeshi ain't beatin the misogynist allegations, females only serve to better their male counterparts. As will be the eventuality of Mucy.
>>154369190>Taeshi gets annoyed at the idea of Mike trying to better himself or even just leave all this scorched earth behind for a better area. We're at a point where it's clearly not the character's fault that he can't get better, that it's incredibly obvious the writer doesn't want him to.We probably should have seen that coming when she both killed Mike's friendship with James and diminished his talent for athletics in literally the same pages for no reason at all. Literally wrote herself a way for Mike to have a supportive friend that was gonna try to fuck him again, and a potential new group of friends, and a sport so she could write development as Paulo got, but she can't control her Mike hatred.It's like Mike developing something without Lucy or Sandy involved is some sort of sin.
>>154366807>A high school student can't be expected to drop everything to be a personal therapist, even to their best friend. That's not a character flaw, it's just lifeWhat's "Drop everything" here? Because if Mike is his best friend then he would have done way more than just sat at the table at the end of LitS and let him go on when he ran into him in the hallway. David's "I killed mike" explanation at the tree race should have had him wondering what the hell actually happened. At most we've gotten the showing that he doesn't really care for James but that's it.
>>154369329>It's like Mike developing something without Lucy or Sandy involved is some sort of sin.It is. If Mike gets his confidence and spine back, he's less likely to be in this state where Lucy's existence has as much influence on his life as it does. It makes him less likely to be guilt tripped.If he leaves to a new school or town then he can't be kept "In check" by Lucy or Augustus. He can go on, forge new friendships and a new life, and they'd just have to sit there and deal with it. And the idea of that really makes Taeshi seethe
>>154366807>A high school student can't be expected to drop everything to be a personal therapist, even to their best friendThe problem is that this isn't a blank slate school student with no previous background or examples of action, it's the same guy that made a promise so stupid it's haunting him to this day just to try and help someone that's told him many times on his face she doesn't want to be his friend, and this same guy took a "I'm ok" at face value from his supposed best friend? Wanna know what's different? He tried hard with Lucy because he's still attracted to her even if he doesn't want her anymore, but when he faced Mile not only was he under a promise but also was already on a relationship and Mike had rejected him already, so there was no need to push further. So I'm calling Paulo an opportunist that won't put effort into helping unless his dick guides him
>>154367077Paulo knows something major went down outside and later ended up pressing James for more details before getting shut up. He's not leaving it alone because of Paisy stuff as he bitched to Daisy on the matter. It's all because of his promise to Lucy, which feeds into his image of an unreliable friend who will ultimately side with Lucy againsr Mike every time, when push comes to shove. I would love for Paulo to find out what happened, rightfully call Lucy and co nuts, and reach back out to Mike, but that will almost certainly not happen. So no, doing the bare minimum is not impressive and Paulo will likely continue to disappoint.
>>154368769It seems to me that one is just terminally retarded and suffers from microdick syndrome.
>>154361987She really doesn't want to admit Augustus did a fucked up thing. You aren't supposed to feel bad for Mike and Lucy and co were completely justified.In the future, she's going to have a situation where she wants readers to sympathize with Mike and then get mad when they don't. She still won't be able to put two and two together.>>154362004>"It's a good thing I dont write spitefully!"You do.
>>154362258Can you possibly do one about Lucy trying to rape Augustus?
>>154370973Righteous Asshole syndrome.
>>154370791I'm going to take a wild bet but I think it's part of Taeshi's poor relationship logic we have seen her bring up whenever Mike needs to be punished and Lucy excused: once you don't want or can have a romantic relationship with someone you should stop giving them individual attention, else you're just giving them hope and that's manipulation". In that logic Paulo only superficially worrying for Mike makes sense because he's no longer on his radar after being rejected, no possible relationship means he shouldn't be close to him else he's cheating on Daisy (and Lucy, who of course is an exception to the rule). It's the same "why would I put more effort when we're not going to fuck" logic she keeps pushing on Mike with
>>154371140>It's the same "why would I put more effort when we're not going to fuck" logic she keeps pushing on Mike withI think that I've missed this one.
What are the chances that Taeshi keeps downplaying the notion that Augustus should face consequences because something bad is coming down the line and readers are meant to feel sorry for him?
>>154371217As far as this story is concerned, I have come to expect the actual results to somehow end up being worse than anons' worst assumption of what will happen. So based on that, Augustus is going to get a scholarship and free ride to a prestigious college somehow and Lucy will wish him well while silently having an internal meltdown...but look how self sacrificing she is!
>>154361987Taeshi seems to have settled on this narrative that she's an impartial storyteller...which doesn't work given how she keeps running defense for certain characters while damning others>"it's not a moral story and things just happen due to cause and effect!">"said cause and effect just so happens to depend entirely on a moral framework that i just so happen to support!"
>>154371217The hand is his and he's gonna be SAD
>>154369329James you dime turning asshole.
>>154371217Maybe by some miracle she'll be influenced by all the asks about him and her people-pleasing will take over and actually have him catch some shit?Watch her go full tilt overboard and actually have him die screaming by getting accidentally run over by Matt's car or some shit. Literally all that's needed is that Taeshi realize that people DON'T tend to gravitate around assholes. Isolation is enough, but she keeps giving them cheerleading squads.
>>154371442I feel like that's a reasonably boring outcome but potentially not stupid enough. Gus is caught up in the Goldiemalding plot, and that's the one that keeps getting dumber the further Taeshi's mask slips. We regularly fail to predict the magnitude of retardation for such events.
>>154371217slim to none.If this was the case she would have either hinted at it or wouldn't have been fighting so hard to convince people that nothing bad would happen t o him due to LitS.
>>154371659>Maybe by some miracle she'll be influenced by all the asks about him and her people-pleasing will take over and actually have him catch some shit?Unlikely; I've never seen Taeshi modify her own narrative to satisfy anyone else. She just makes excuses and the community bullies any complainers into submission.
>>154371695It happens, but it needs to hit her hard in her ego, example being the phone call having 4 or 5 different revisions/versions because no one was happy with her "nuance"
>>154371217>what are the chances the author commentary is just ironic shitposting and not her actual dogshit opinions? What then?I'm not falling for that one again
>>154371671My logic is that Taeshi could not hint at such an outcome without validating the haters, so to speak. Usually her hints are biased toward how she wants the readers to respond. Spoiling that Augustus is going to suffer but everyone should feel sorry for him would just intensity the backlash and destroy this illusion of impartiality she keeps trying to sell. Further, I don't assume any hypothetical suffering need be tied to LitS, but neither is it necessarily ruled out. Insisting things only happen due to cause and effect washes Gus' hands of sin in the now and lets Taeshi beg for sympathy later.
>>154371946I think she's setting herself up for a big disappointment, there's already fans trying to make sense of her words and coming to Augustus defense, imagine their reactions when akchually they were just good PR but the haters were right
>If only you knew how bad things really were.
>>154372608Commentary and Preview.Sue still trying to her damndest to be the demiurge's first.
>>154372608>Mike and Lucy both put up fronts>it's pottery because they're both separate yet equal in suffering>but also here's an entire chapter dedicated to Lucy pity milking while Mike's shambling corpse rots out on the track
>>154372608I'll be honest if no one reacts to Lucy suddenly looking happy with fear then it's not really a Lucyspace thing, these kids are just fucking stupid and should not be allowed in any social situation
>>154372764But since her return, Lucy randomly flipflops between politely friendly and surly cunt. This is just more of the same, so why would her friends see through it now?
>>154372812Fair point, forgot we're supposed to take her sudden mood changes that are never called out and only show her happy when put side to side with Mike seriously
>>154372899Pretending for a moment this comic is written by a sane person, we could suppose that Lucy's friends are just too happy she's "in a better place," now. They don't want to acknowledge any warning signs because frankly they have proven completely inept at dealing with such problems. This coping mechanism could be extended to their treatment of Mike. He stopped sperging out so all is well, no need for concern regardless of what happens to him. Paulo is the only one willing to put forward any effort on that front.
>>154372608I don't know if I'd come to school so ecstatic after getting raped in a dream
>>154371140>It's the same "why would I put more effort when we're not going to fuck" logic she keeps pushing on Mike withThat sounds more like she accidentally made Mike correct that people only give a shit when they think he'll put out.>>154372608I genuinely don't give a shit about Manic Lucy. Especially since she did it herself. If Augustus has to have the fucking phone, why not get Lucy a set of headphones? Then again, getting a set of headphones would also mean LITS wouldn't happen either.Yes, I am still mad about everything surrounding LITS being fucking retarded.
>>154372608Wow, Lucy is in such a good mood! I bet she must've had amazing dreams!
>>154373158You don't get it anon, somehow Mike is behind this, he made Lucy irrationally afraid of phones of all kind so what she fears is that Sandy is calling to take Augustus away from her
>>154373218First it was the mail service, then it was phones. Is Lucy just traumatized by communication in general?
>>154372764Devils' advocate: Lucy's affect is almost random and it's not worth trying to decipher it because if you try to peel back the layers all that'll happen is that she'll get hysterical and scream at you.I mean yeah, they're stupid but it's because they're even trying to be friends with this nasty bitch.
>>154373159She couldn't sleep, after waking up she spent the rest of the night lying awake lamenting Alejandro not being there.
>>154373370>Is Lucy just traumatized by communication in general?If she weren't, then she would have been dating Mike for years.
>>154372608>get lost downtown with a group of friends one weekend andalmost get raped in an alley, friends can't do anything to help due to the assailant's size and strength>oneitis later dumps you in the most savage way possible for being impossibly wishy-washy while claiming all your friends had reasons to not like you >spend months in a psyche ward being heavily medicated after a gruesome suicide attempt >get pulled from the school your parents put you in for your own safety due to a situation with an unnamed boy>spend the time since having recurring nightmares about all your friends callously abandoning you to the alley man>just learned the guy who almost raped you is not only still actively looking for you but is constantly calling the boy who saved your life and whom your parents let move into your home out of gratitude >all while the boy you committed suicide over tries to worm his way back into your life When you zoom out you feel for whitecat, but when you zoom in she's the demiurge. bravo taeshi
>>154373775>bravo taeshiBenefits of a writer being terminally online.>>oneitis later dumps you in the most savage way possible for being impossibly wishy-washy while claiming all your friends had reasons to not like youLucy was way worse than wishy washy bh. A major funny point is that the longer the story goes on, the more Mike is proven right that Lucy is a parasite. Her entire relationship with Paulo was just that, and LITS pretty much showed she is a manipulative parasite. The gall to put your "friends" near your attempted rapsit really shows she's a bitch.
>>154362258I have an ask/praise suggestion:An innocent breath of relief that this is not a story with moral considerations. How refreshing it is to read a narrative that does not demand the reader take sides and lets them dissect character motivations from a dispassionate perspective. For example, how Lucy not a victim we are meant to feel sorry for and instead is very clearly using the letters thing as a coping mechanism as it lines up beautifully with the IRL condition called BPD. Taeshi's accuracy in portraying Lucy's delusions, their shelf life extended by her supportive but unaware friends, is impressive. When will they wise up, though? After all, BPD people typically sabotage their own friendships in the long run.
>>154373370>someone speaks to Lucy>her brain (AGAINST HER WILL) processes the vibrations collected by her inner ear and translates them into electrical signals that the language center of her brain then interprets (SHE NEVER WANTED IT)
>>154373775I think that's the most frustrating thing, Lucy can be a really compelling character! Assholes are fun to read, more if they have traumas and are hostile and such! She could be such a good character to write about and have a compelling story, but the rule that she can't ever face consequences or have non designated characters see past an illusion of that forces them to like her is what ruins her, and the extreme coddling and manipulation of the story to serve her makes her just showing up a chore. It's frustrating how a good author could have done so much with a character like her and instead she's just a plot device that sometimes is taken outside so you feel bad for her
>>154369870Have you ever met a child? They make stupid promises all the time.
>>154374016Paulo has a job and a car; he isn't a 7-year-old. Honoring that fucking promise in the first place was retarded and shoulda blown up in Lucy's face.>When offered the Promise, Lucy didn't answer and uppercut Paulo in the same convo.>Paulo had been talking with Mike, and after getting rejected, he was still his "friend".>Mike had been keeping quiet about paisy cause they're friends. >Paulo during LITS hears Lucy bring up the promise she never accepted after telling him "Mike could use the sympathy">Pulls up a promise she didn't acceptLucy couldn't even say Paulo offered the promise without that shit blowing back on her. Paulo could easily admit to it and than Apolgoize to Miek for ever offering it. Paulo even mentioned Luy didn't even accept that shit, and trying to pull it now would earn her the finger. >Paulo si nto fuckign TORN between his friend Mike and a "promise" to Lucy after blnatnat manipulationAt this point, Lucy and Paulo being friends should be stressed at best. The girl used him as a toy, played with his feelings, and then had the gall to pull gaslighting and manipulation. If Lucy wasn't the author's self-insert, she would have been told to fuck off. Pualo has no reason to be simping this much for Lucy unless he is hoping to hit.
>>154373878The thing is that this is exactly how it was if you just ignored author comments BEFORE she started her blog, now you need to willfully separate the comic from external material to keep actual discussion about the characters, and then she will only make certain things clear on her blog so it's very hard to ignore it
>>154374016Not all the time it seems. This wasn't about the promise itself but the motive behind it which wasn't there for Mike
>>154370791Again, the minimum is much lower than what Paulo did, no matter how personally angry you've gotten at a fictional cat person.>>154369870It hasn't been nearly as long in the story as it was from when Lucy started disconnecting from everyone to the point she slapped Paulo for trying to reach out to her. They're not (yet) comparable events.They could easily become comparable, but with the glacial pace of the comic they might not be comparable events for a year or more.
>>154374136maybe try again with an English keyboard
>>154374156Again, Paulo's own minimum is what we got. Not everyone gets so emotionally invested in these characters as your own projectionist self, who apparently cannot live with a critique of Retarded BCB Character #3.
>>154374136If anything high schoolers are *more* likely to impulsively make grand verbal gestures that they can't keep or don't understand the implications of. They want to look and act adult but aren't yet.
>>154374156The bare minimum is bros before hoes. Paulo promised ho before bro, so he's not Mike's friend at all, let alone his best friend. I'm sorry you're so hurt that people don't respect that simp you self insert as.
>>154372608Who looks worse?
>>154374228Due to the existence and death of Carson, everyone's bare minimum in BCB is complete and total apathy. Your expectations for how friends should behave are completely irrelevant, this is just what Taeshi wrote.
>>154374287Both look like they're about to go school shooter for different reasons.
>>154373775It's not even Mike or Lucy trying to worm their way into either of each others' lives, it's that Taeshi is actively forcing it. EF was nothing but that and then there was that shit where Lucy cloned herself to be at every arcade machine at the same time. Taeshi thinks it's some fated-lovers story but it's really just bullshit about two characters who are completely toxic together where the world keeps forcing them to be together while forcing them to never stay together.
>>154374324Sir, we only take real arguments here.
>>154374156I'll give you that it has not been the same time frame, but then again it has not been the same context either. But then I remember this is fucking Paulo and anything we can discuss about his intentions is a waste of bandwidth because the fucker is written less consistently than Lucy's mood, he changed on a dime, hugs then backstabs you, is told many many times someone doesn't want him and he cries and shits himself and next day he's back happily hanging with them, he'll fuck his friend because he was called mean by other kids and then tell his girlfriend he doesn't want to bone her just like that, etc. Trying to discuss Paulo is an excersice in frustration just like any of Taeshi's pet characters
>>154374356We don't or we wouldn't read this comic
>>154374392No, that just makes us collectively retarded in a different way.
>>154374173Sure>Paulo offers a shitty promise to throw Mike under the bus, and Lucy doesn't accept it. The whole convo leads to him getting scked by Lucy, Lucy storming off, and Paulo "fortunately" reconciling with Mike and feeling bad for even making the offer.His entire relationship with Lucy was pretty much getting strung along and used as a Mike substitute. Paulo's a cunt, but the Lucy shit is true.>New Year's is when Paulo's mommy issues are brought up. He learns he has a half-sister and is reasonably mopey.>confesses to Mike, gets nwf'd, but they have a heart-to-heart. David shows up to emotionally mooch.>LITS happens. Lucy & Simps show up. Paulo questions wtf. Lucy informs Paulo that Mike could use for sympathy. Oh, and Lucy simps act like assholes.>Lucy tries to cash in a proposal she never accepted.Yeah, writing this made me realize it was a proposal and not a promise. Lucy never accepted it vs Mike making the dumb promise pre-LITS.>Paulo, instead of telling Lucy to kiss his ass, decides to kiss hers instead.Lucy blabbing about the proposal means jackshit if Paulo actually goes up and talks to Mike to explain shit & can diffuse it.>Paulo, now Lucy's bitch, struggles with keeping the promise and his best friend.The answer is obvious: fuck Lucy. Paulo is acting like he is Lucy's girlfriend more than Daisy's boyfriend. Lucy has shown herself to be a manipulative person who will bait you to try to control you.>>154374251>If anything high schoolers are *more* likely to impulsively make grand verbal gestures that they can't keep or don't understand the implications of.Yes, but Paulo has zero reason to try to keep this promise. Lucy explicitly didn't accept the proposal when it was offered and fucked off.
>>154340091Ban this shit forever
>>154374356lollmao>>154374363As you can see a lot of people expect more from this comic than Taeshi is ever going to put there, and don't just take it for what it is. The comic is treating Paulo sympathetically whether they like it or not, it just is what it is.If they haven't clocked the sort of "characterization" BCB is always going to have after 20 years, it's kind of on them.>>154374404Modes of retardation are not mutually exclusive and frequently occur in clusters.
>>154374326>Lucy and Mike both meet each other outside of the school entrance one day.>Their eyes meet.>Then they notice how each of them are armed to the teeth.>For the first time in forever, they're genuinely happy in each others' presence... shooting up the rest of the school together before finishing each other off in a suicide pact.What a masterful ending!
>>154374414>Yes, but Paulo has zero reason to try to keep this promiseWell, not *no* reason, exactly. It does make some plausible (and amusing) sense if Paulo sees Lucy as incredibly fragile and assumes that Mike can (probably) handle whatever bullshit went down on the track.
>>154374446>Modes of retardation are not mutually exclusive and frequently occur in clusters.Agreed! One such mode is the inability to recognize that people can bitch about what is vs what ought to be. An excellent demonstration on your part.
>>154374506If someone's bitching about what ought to be in a comic unsuccessfully for over a decade (people did used to like the comic in the beginning), it's just an exercise in self-torture.
>>154373970For the sake of conversation, I will say that's that's frustrating about BCB in general. It's definitely not the greatest or most original story ever told. But there's enough decent nuggets that some of the plot points and character development could be compelling and interesting.But Taeshi lacks the skill and/or willingness to go too far off a non-existing script, refuses to let characters grow or development, and isn't going to do anything that puts the status quo or her OTP at risk. Things are consistently retconned, things happen on a whim, and there's no continuity even with Lucy's trauma.I agree that Lucy being aggressive and a bitch would be interesting, especially if her attituded changed with it being a lasting effect of her trauma. But Lucy's always been this way for literally no reason other than "teehee she's a tsundere~" So her being an asshole in response to her trauma goes right out the window because she's never been anything different even without the trauma. And everyone around her always accepted it because "that's just Lucybaby!"
>>154374479> sees Lucy as incredibly fragile and assumes that Mike can (probably) handle whatever bullshit went down on the track.I feel that mindset has only ever reinforced why Mike doesn't:> Believe his friends would not choose Lucy.>Why does he feel he needs someone in his corner>Why he felt alone(as revealded during the drunk talk)Good friendships aren't exactly built on that mindset. Why is Mike able to do Lucy's supposed Issues better than er?>Feels alone and can't trust friends>Worried people only want him for his body.Even the friends & family issues feed into this isolation compared to Lucy's feelings.>Actual damage to other relationships that reinforce a negative mindset & create a loop.>supposedly forgiven by friends, but they choose Lucy anyway.>Mike's Family appears aware that something is wrong, but other family drama prevents focusing on it.Haley even seems to hate Mike for some reason, and the only person who doesn't & is around is Chris. Mike doesnt seem low enough to trauma dump on him either(yet).It truly feels like someone is at the end of the rope.
>>154374479You know, it would do WONDERS to the comic if they ever said out loud the table feels pity for Lucy and that's why they're so supportive and forgiving of her, and also why she doesn't see them as actual friends
>>154374554If someone comes into these threads for any other reason, it's just an excersize in who do you think you're kidding?
>>154374741I'm sure that Taeshi thinks the answer is obvious despite how tiresome Lucy is to deal with.
>>154374800Someone should take the word NUANCE from Taeshi and put it on a high shelf for a good while. I can just imagine Lucy confronting the group after a failed attempt at riling them up against her and asking why are they so intent on being with her and leave Mike alone, for someone to answer in frustration that Mike didn't try to kill himself
>>154374860Since Taeshi has been going mask off in terms of the comic's moral logic (regardless of what her blog claims), I do want to see her do the same thing with Lucy and the group. Whenever Taeshi does this, the reactions from all portions of the community have proven interesting.
>>154374780Fair enough.
>>154374944Was there even any strong reaction to Lucy not giving a shit about the contest being fair (or doable) for Sue? Or how it was just to entertain herself? All I've seen is focused on Paulo
>>154375323nope. Most people were focusing on Paulo's side of things.
>>154375323Most of the complaints about LitS were about Augustus, James, and David, right? I figure the official community still prefers to grant Lucy her perma-pussy-pass whenever possible. So if there is an obvious distraction/WTF sink, they will focus on that one.
>>154339602Based ROT Cipher.
>>154375405Why is the female side of this comic so neglected? Outside of Lucy's pitybaiting, it's fairly bad with her, too.
>>154375469Guys are the only potential Lucy simps that bow cat would give the time of day. Therefore they factor into her ego (and thus Taeshi's interest) while cast females are expected to simply hang out in Lucy's orbit.
>>154375405>>154375441Expected, and that's the problem, if you put obvious tells that Lucy is on some shit like saying out loud how being surrounded by friends makes her suffer, or the mentioned asshole moves, and yet everything is roses when she gets home, and the community at large only focuses on the other characters, then there's no point on waiting for said mask off because the mask is hanging around her neck and yet everyone covers Lucy with their thumb to see everyone else
>>154375469See the opinion Lucy has on other girls? That's also part of her being the author's fursona. It's why she can say shit like "Daisy was asking for it anyway" with no second thought
I love Candy Yummi
>>154375674What's with Taeshi's recent focus on "the good old days" when she's in the middle of carving Mike's heart out with a rusty spoon?
>>154375674You know what else is Yummi? Bananas
>>154368821I don't think you realize just how glacial the pace of BCB is. Stuff from years ago gets brought up all the time, because it's only been a couple months max in-universe. Besides, Paulo not bothering to clean the literal pile of garbage on the passenger seat of his car when he's going to pick Daisy up happened just a couple chapters ago.Regardless, my point is not that I expect Paulo to actually face consequences in the comic for being a shithead. Of course he won't, he's the author's favorite dickhead. My point is that he's a bully and an asshole who deserves worse, and everyone around him deserves better.
>>154372608How many times are we going to recycle this plotline can we just get the track team again
>>154375913>a finger on the monkey's paw curls>the next page sees them crucifying Mike out on the running track
>>154375813>Look here is Mike and Lucy like the GOOD OLD DAYS. Don't they look cute together? Isn't Lucy's constant grumpiness endearing?>Buy Mucy stocks pls
>>154375869What an idiot gal
>>154375997I cry I pray mon dieuI cry I pray mon dieuI cry I pray mon dieuAdieu mon dieu
>>154376007I assume these offerings appeal to her as well, otherwise she would not bother and just harrangue her audience for not giving enough of a fuck.
>>154372608Having your dream friends watch you get porked really takes a lot out of a gal.
>>154374704>Why is Mike able to do Lucy's supposed Issues better than er?Because Taeshi barely writes for Lucy compared to Mike, and when she does it's largely fluff. Taeshi refuses to write Lucy suffering consequences for acting like a hostile weirdo or explain WHY Lucy acts like a hostile weirdo. Meanwhile Mike's gotten chapters and interludes demonstrating his issues, showing their consequences, explaining his feelings about it, and so on. As much as that's sabotaged when Taeshi assumes direct control to make him do some stupid shit like in EF, it's still THERE. Meanwhile Lucy ONLY gets Taeshi assuming direct control to make her do stupid shit; since she came back, there's only been like 3 (non paywalled) chapters unpacking Lucy's character/motives, and they contradict each other.
>>154375997It's for the best, they're force-feeding him manna so he won't collapse as he runs.
>>154376745>or explain WHY Lucy acts like a hostile weirdoBut that's not true. We do know why Lucy acts like that: Because she's a nutcase who lets her insane trust issues run wild while rejecting all evidence she's wrong. Also she refuses to really get over Mike. Now, why we're supposed to feel sorry for her, that much is not really explained and just assumed.
>>154372608CAPITAL CCRINGERINGEGNIRCCRINGECRINGECRINGE CRINGE CRINGE CRINGEWHERE IS THE NIGHTMARE WHERE IS THE RAPE WHY IS LUCY SMILING SHE WAS DREAMING ABOUT GETTING GANG RAPED SHE WAS WET AS FUCK DREAMING ABOUT BEING GANG RAPED AS AUGUSTUS WAS FORCED TO ONLY BE ALLOWED TO JERK OFF(By Lucy's personal order!) AND WATCH CRINGE WHAT IS THIS HAPPY GO LUCY SHIT.
>>154372608Back at her room there's a baseball bat grinded down to a nub
So what are the chances that "let's get this over with" is a sign that she did answer the phone and "victim complex" refers to her bringing problems to her life because she had nothing to feel upset about after getting rid of Mike?
>>154372608Look, LOOK! She's clearly distressed. Oh won't you forgive the BPDemon, anon? One last time? You can't be that heartless and ungrateful.
>>154376825I guess. But those "motives" are insane, and constantly contradicted by what Lucy says and does. If she has massive trust issues, why does she keep hanging out and having fun with the "friends" she hates? Why would she be cool with Augustus weaponizing all her embarrassing secrets? Why is she putting all her eggs in the "Augustus" basket if he's the one who keeps re-traumatizing her?Like I said, 90% of Lucy's time in-comic nowadays is Taeshi assuming direct control to make some stupid shit happen. When's the last time we got a Lucy POV chapter that actually stuck with Lucy's POV, or explained anything about her we didn't already know?
>>154377043>>154377159I really hope Taeshi isn't actually canonizing or half-canonizing Second Confrontation. It'd be hilarious for a brief moment, but fucked up and uncomfortable forever.
Do you think Augustus jizzes in Lucy's dirty laundry?
>>154377221>why does she keep hanging out and having fun with the "friends" she hates?To make sure they NEVER welcome Mike back and stabilize his mind. If she has to endure their repulsive presence to do it, then it's a sacrifice she's willing to make.>Why is she putting all her eggs in the "Augustus" basket if he's the one who keeps re-traumatizing her?Because in her mind that's a good thing. A periodic reminder of her trauma is a periodic reminder that she's still a virgin and that everything is right with the world.My answers may sound utterly deranged because that's what they are. I'm trying to avoid any and all logical thought in order to synchronize with Lucyspace.
>>154377257What laundry? Her bow? She walks around naked.
>>154377335That red dress she wore in EF and never before or since
>>154372608>>154377043>Alejandro had her perform all night and now she needs to try to stay awake at least through the test
>>154377350That was a coat, not a dress. Unless you mean the dress she wore in the play?Either way Augustus would rather try on Lucys clothes than jerk off to them
>>154377304...But Lucy's not a virgin. She had that sex with Paulo that was so disappointing it made her commit to killing herself.
>>154377387...I genuinely don't know what to tell you, I clearly intended to write "victim", not "virgin". Not sure what happened there.
>>154377387With the way Taeshi keeps trying to rewrite the comic in post, I genuinely wonder if she'll retcon that as well. White cat must remain pure or some shit.
>>154377351>Lucy's geeked out on speed Alejandro gave her because she spent all night camwhoring
>>154377504fuck i hate it here
>>154368577Anyone with a wit of intelligence would have fucked off from this comic a long time ago. What is left are the angry, the overly invested, and the stupid.
Someone post the latest tumblr ask>Taeshi: We aren't going to get a chapter where Daisy talks about how Augustus sexually assaulted her>We ARE getting a chapter where "Daisy talks about how Mike forced a kiss on her " and what she thinks about thatThank God Taeshi is finally tackling this issue.
>>154377257I think Augustus holds it until he's at school to avoid Lucy catching him with his none-pants down
>>154369226You think I don't know that? Why must you rub salt in when I'm already at rock bottom, anon? My favorite characters are Abbey, Daisy, and Sue. They are each of them doomed, subsumed into being Paulo's asspat posse to reassure him that they TOTALLY don't mind him being a flake, a bully, a moron, and an asshole. I fucking hate it.
>>154368577What do you mean, anon? The comic's gotten dumber, but we seem to be still making the same dumb jokes and arguments as ever. Unless your saying that it's dumb THAT we're still beating the same horse, after all this time.
>>154377845>We ARE getting a chapter where "Daisy talks about how Mike forced a kiss on her " and what she thinks about thatWait what? Is this a real answer? Didn't she say herself that Daisy kissed HIM?!
>>154377845>Taeshi keeps putting Daisy in the coals to make Mike look bad despite going for weeks about how Daisy understood and didn't hold it over MikeI know you don't give a shit about her Taeshi but geez. I hope you're bullshitting me, I'd actually drop the comic if miss "this is not a moral comic" keeps making exceptions for Graycat. This is about Augustus isn't it? She feels threatened people aren't happy with him not even getting a slap on the wrist
>>154373158She doesn't even need a set of headphones, just a singular earplug. I'm 99% sure Taeshi forgets that Lucy's deaf on one side the majority of the time though.
>>154377845>Daisy suddenly hates the kiss feels used >Abbey is cool with Daisy and Paulo dating but decides Mike is pretty much a rapist>Paulo hates Mike too now >no moral judgements btw this is all just cause and effect>>154377918Mike did kiss Daisy first, then she snogged him back like a lovecrazed weasel. So if Taeshi said that, she's misremembering her own comic again.
>>154377940You know, maybe I should stop ragebaiting her about Lucy and Augustus. However, it's funnier if I keep pissing her off by mentioning their rape attempts, prolonged abuse, manipulation, and how it gets handwaved away.
>>154377940Anon, you don't understand. Kissing a girl who's actually wanted it for years, then apologizing and making up for it is WAY worse than actively sabotaging her confidence and then sexually assaulting her while helping plot the demise of her friends. Augustus was just being a silly little guy while Mike is an irredeemable monster.
>>154377977I think you're actually affecting her anon, she isn't even taking the time to pretend one thing isn't related to the other, she's outright hanging Mike's head on a pike at the town square to remind everyone who decides what's moral and what's not. Wonder how many of her readers on the edge will feel offended that she's ruining Daisy's character (one of the nice ones) just to add more coal on Mike's organ grinder
>>154378071>she's outright hanging Mike's head on a pike at the town square to remind everyone who decides what's moral and what's notBut that's not possible since I've been assured multiple times that BCB is not a moral comic.
>>154378071I'm just ragebaiting her and getting pretty blunt about the comic's issues as payback for ruining one of my only cherished childhood series and turning it into abuse apologia.
>>154375997Lost and desperate - they need your help.
I want to see the actual post.
>>154378158>>154377918>>154377845Perhaps I am misreading, but it seems Taeshi's answer is mostly about Daisy thinking about Augustus forcing a kiss on her, not Mike's quick peck on the cheek.
>>154378263Not misreading at all.
>>154378263That's way less interesting because Daisy will obviously absolve Gus of any wrongdoing. First of all, she's biased toward him. Second, he's Lucy's pet pseudo-rapist and has gotten a pass multiple times already with zero pushback. Any concern about friction is transparent bullshit, not unlike Paisy's concern over Abbey. There is no organic drama allowed in BCB.
>>154377845>Manipulating a girl into dropping her guard and so you can assault her: good, he was actually helping her and Daisy was asking for it anyway >offering a guy sex because you're planning to kill yourself anyway, and said guy never making the connection that the sex might have been part of the reason: good, Lucy was just being selfless >Sexually assaulting someone you're hiding and who depends on you for food and shelter just because you're feeling unwanted: good, it's Mike's fault, Lucy was just reacting accordingly >stealing a kiss from a friend, immediately apologizing and explaining it was a moment of weakness and anger and it didn't mean anything, having said friend say it was ok and she understands and it'll be their secret: BAD, things have changed and it's convenient for Daisy to throw Mike under the bus since no one will take his side so now it's retroactively rape
>>154378417Hopefully it's just the forced thing Augustus did, but then again Augustus will be worshipped for it.
>>154378263>They keep avoiding the sweaty hot summer (winter actually) at Lucy's house where Augustus Emocat was (almost) raped
>>154378417>offering a guy sex because you're planning to kill yourself anyway, and said guy never making the connection that the sex might have been part of the reason: good, Lucy was just being selflessDon't get me wrong, it's funny to joke that Paulo is so bad at sex that Lucy tried to kill herself, but I don't recall it factoring into any thoughts prior to her suicide attempt. It was all wah I'm a parasite this and sob I lost my chance with Mike that. Paulo didn't seem to even register which is also funny.
>>154378486I keep pressing Taeshi on that, which makes it even funnier.
>>154378449Hey, at least Augustus didn't send any letters to another girl. Now THAT would have been unforgivable.
>>154378511Which they weren't aware they were in a relationship with, and had that issue resolved in a prior chapter IIRC.
>>154378263Oh cool, half a year of Daisy sitting in front of a live audience saying how much Augustus manipulation actually helped her, denouncing the republic of Mike and a soliloquy about how she was asking for it anyway
>>154378497Actually someone should archive that chapter before it gets "lost" or "misremembered"
>>154378263>>154378557I fucking hate this development. Why must Taeshi do my girl dirty like this? What has Daisy ever done to deserve the god of her world constantly victim-blaming her and implying she's a whore? She's the best of the main 4 (though that's not a super high bar) but she can't catch a fucking break. Daisy's life is a neverending line of humiliation and disappointment, and any time she tries to push back, Paulo or Lucy beat her back down.
>>154379102Her terrified wails rang off the transepts as Taeshi dragged her to the oubliette. As a deterrent of the cult, her punishment would be more than commensurate with her "blasphemy". Locked interminably in the festering Paisy relationship, she awaited retribution from the Demiurge while suffering the psychological tortures of its enraged servants.
>>154345868If you're the same one who made the Vestal Daisy edit, thank you for fine work.
Damn the threads gonna die this soon?
>>154379579Been up since Monday, friend.
>>154379511De nada, anon.
