Post your AU/What If?/Elseworlds idea.>90s-era DC timeline where Bruce Wayne's back never fully heals and Jean-Paul Valley remains as Batman
>>154344527Then Dick would battle him for the cowl and succeed thanks to his training from Bruce.
A robot with a defective responsometer lands on a planet made entirely of platinum and makes more beings like herself over billions of years. Her memories become a weird form of religion after countless generations are made who inherit the same design flaws and vulnerabilities to solar activity of their mothers. An astronaut from a planet of a dying star arrives and is mistaken for the Darlmagnuss.
>An elseworld where Joker is a hero and Batman’s partner instead of his biggest archenemy.
>>154344527I'd like to see a DC book where all the 90s changes/events stuck: Superman dead, Batman back broken, Wonder Woman Dead, Hal Jordan went crazy/evil, Barry Allen dead, Aquaman missing hand, etc.
>>154344567>AU that's just the canon with extra stepsGo fuck yourself.
>>154346755I think this would’ve been a good springboard for a rebooted Earth 2 they coulda done instead of the aborted 5G
>>154344527>Joker movie is actually retrofited into a Ventrilquist and Scarface character piece>same sort of scenario but Arnold Wesker is actually really shit at throwing his voice>always been a loser and outcast until he finds a dummy buried in box>during the train sequence from original movie its actually Maroni thugs instead of wallstreet kids harassing a woman>Wesker pulls out the dummy and tries to distract the thugs>they grab the dummy and begin making fun of it, they way its dressed Wesker being a loser >its only when the thugs begin scratching the Dummy's face that Wesker fucking snaps pushing a thug and causing him to drop his gun>finally the dummy speaks back "What are you waiting for ya gig guffoon?! Pick up that piece!">Wesker listens and shoots two thugs and using the dummy to beat the other one near to death>runs home and the Dummy proceeds to introduce himself formally as Scarface. >the thug is approached by Maroni himself in hospital and he shakily describes to Maroni what happened>Maroni laughs in his face and kills him refusing to believe anyone can die so stupid or that a dummy can talk>Wesker and Scarface agree to look out for each other. Both want money and they do shows>Maroni catches their show one night and suspects their involvement>calls them in for a meeting where Scarface nearly gets Wesker killed by mouthing off to Maroni>Maroni is a cold monster and sends a thug in a red hood to kill Wesker. >at this point Wesker has found some success and even has a girlfriend>girlfriend comes home while Wesker is away and the red hooded thug shoots her and hides to wait for Wesker>Wesker and Scarface get home see the body and hear the thug who Scarface orders Wesker to kill with a gun Wesker kept from the train
>>154346959>at this point there are three men dead inexplicably and with talks of other men who work for him being beaten up and arrested by police Maroni fully suspects Wesker>he sends a whole team of Thugs to kill Wesker. Not because he thinks Wesker is that much of a threat, but to send a message. No one fucks with Sal Maroni>they bring a guy to lead Wesker somewhere he can be brutalized >he worked with Wesker and had been snubbed repeatedly once Wesker and Scarface got famous. >a jealous and rage fuelled man he takes up the offer and is even given the red hood>Wesker is on the run from the police and turns to the New Red Hood for shelter>before he robs a store, at Scarface's suggestion, and gets money to offers it to Red Hood for protection>Red Hood lies to keep Wesker safe but Wesker spots the article of clothing and recalls its from the man who shot and killed his girlfriend>he runs and is steered by several Maroni thugs into a Chemical Factory>at this point Red Hood gets the jump on Wesker and finally breaks him down, revealing what a loser Wesker is beyond the glammer and that nobody took him serious. >Wesker realises it was always him, talking through Scarface to get his anger out>Suddenly a creature interrupts them >we know who this is but it appears to be a monster coming from the night to terrorize and harm each thug>distracted by the creature Wesker wrestles the gun from Red Hood who runs and Wesker turns the gun on several thugs running from the creature>He escapes as Red Hood seems to be thrown in a vat of chemicals by the monster and runs away>Wesker was low before but this time he has no one to trust and no where to run>desperately he runs to a phone and sets up one last set for he and Scarface>cleaning off the blood, and putting on a suit and tie, The Ventriloquist and Scarface go to the studio, ignoring a week old call that Wesker's girlfriend is still alive and in hospital
>>154347281>this last set is for Wesker to prove he doesn't need Scarface and that he is someone. >sadly Scarface begins roasting Wesker and telling him who really runs things>Wesker and Scarface argue and a gun is pulled by wesker aimed at Scarface>Wesker shoots his own hand and aims it once more at Scarface before being tackled by the police>the audience run and in the chaos Wesker's girlfriend picks up Scarface>In the exact same raspy voice and North Atlantic accent the dummy says he needs a new lap and asks her if she'd like to become famous>Peyton Riley smiles and nods as Wesker is dragged screaming and throwing his voice to Arkhamit's a good idea and if I had the money I'd film this myself.
>>154344527While it's not exactly like your idea there's actually a what if story where Jean-Paul defeats Batman and keeps the mantle.
>A 00's Post-Crisis AU where Kal-L of Earth-2 was resurrected in the aftermath of Blackest Night.
>JPL or Micheal Lane become the Next Spectre>After a lifetime of secretly using Lazarus Pit formula to stay young and keep the mission Batman decides to retire when Damien is killed. This leads into TDKR version and ultimately it switches into the Batman Beyond universe>Scarecrow is recruited as Yellow Lantern and solely uses his power to terrorise Gotham which brings Alan Scott from retirement to fuck him up
>>154347555Death? Been there. Done that.
Batman Holy Terror sequel please
>>154344527Industrial era Marvel>Tony stark is a wartime capitalist that got caught up in the Civil war and vowed to prevent such bloodshed occuring again, the Ironman suit uses electricity and tesla like inventions to operate.>Steve rogers was a posterboy and war time hero and living legend for the Union army and fought the confederates Hydra agency in the civil war, he's since been repbranded ''Captain america'' by press and goverment as symbol of reunification.>Hydra has gone rogue after the Civil war and stretches its influnce across europe and the Americas>The Hulk is a by-product of the Hydra agency's experiments during the war and a dark shadow in the wartorn south, it's very much a Jekyl and Hyde thing though the hulk does retain several of his mainline powers.>Clint ''Hawkeye'' Barton and the ''Black widow'' are a sharpshooter and double agent turned wild west outlaws, together they blazed trails throughout the wild west.>Charles Xavier and Erik Lehnsherr both sat at the feet of Charles Darwin as he proscribed his theory of evolution both have taken it to radical conclusion that a new age of mankind is fast approaching and dispute how it should be tackled, Erik belives (as always) that mutants are the superior and should found their own nation, Charles is a Marxist and belives the intergration of Mutantkind is integeral to ensuring the proletariat succeeds>The Fantastic four are high flying european adventeruers and scientists who's adventures and daring expeditions have captured the imagination of the world, on an expedition in the arctic they were exposed to cosmic rays to which the recieve their typical powers.>Doom is a Balkans warlord who has pitted european powers against each other time and turned his nation of Latveria into an industrial powerhouse, he plans to bring about a ''war to end all wars'' with his army of metal men and mystic allies.>Dr Strange safeguards the world from Lovecraftian horrors and Orential cults in true pulp fashion
>>154344527Batman AU inspired by Spawn, Devilman, Hellsing, The Shadow, and Chainsawman. Batman is the result of Orion casting out his dark side in an attempt to stop the future where he replaces his father. Orion's shadow falls to Earth and settles in what will later become Arkham after wandering the planet for quite some time. It develops a friendly dynamic with the natives living in the region until Gotham settlers arrive. An ancestor of the Waynes (the future Dr Hurt...?) leads an extermination campaign against the natives in an attempt to draw out the shadow, mistaking it for the demon Barbatos and wishing to bind it to his soul in order to dominate his enemies. >The ritual fails: Barbatos is heavily weakened and left to crawl underneath Arkham for safety, the surviving Arkhams are struck with a curse of madness that spreads to the rest of the general population, and the Wayne ancestor is seemingly killed>the surviving Arkhams marry into the Wayne familyCut to the present day: the philanthropic Thomas and Martha have been murdered, their home ransacked. The ever-so stalwart butler Alfred runs away with Bruce to live with relatives far away from Gotham. Bruce is plagued by nightmares of THE BAT in the sewers and tunnels of his family's property until on his eighteenth birthday, the shadow of Orion creeps into his room and makes itself known. It fails to possess Bruce and instead, Bruce possesses the "demon" and transforms into BATMAN
>>154348141Now with supernatural powers, Bruce returns to Gotham and seizes his family's abandoned property as his base of operations (the former historic site of the first Arkham Asylum) before carrying out a one-man war on the various crime families.
>>154347477Speaking of Dark Multiverse, I hated that there was a really good idea in Dark Multiverse COIE (What if it was Earth-2 that survived instead of Earth-1) that was just wasted on being a Dark Multiverse storySo I say they should just take the idea and ignore everything else in that comicEarth-2 becomes the dominant world of the merged Earth, what then? Does that mean all the Golden Age heroes of Earth-2 operated in the 30s and 40s and eventually retired or died? Is Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman among the Golden Age heroes just like they were on Earth-2? Does it also mean the Silver Age characters like Hal and Barry and Ray are fixed in the 50s/60s and also get aged up?
Clark and Lois raise Conner and Kara as their kids alongside Kid Jon.
>>154348141Just read Constantine nigga
>>154347817Bruce dies and an abandoned Damien is raised by Jason Told and Cass Cain. All three of them know what its like to toe the line between hero and killer and each of them has to keep the other in check. Cass and Jason wouldn't be together romantically but Damien sees them as his Seniors and works hard to not dissappoint them>>154348364I prefer Kara to be an older Aunt to Jon(because she literally is) . But having her in a big sister role would be kino
>>154344527An AU where OP isn’t a faggot, I know it’s not believably.
>>154348888>I prefer Kara to be an older Aunt to Jon(because she literally is) .That's where Power Girl comes in.
>>154344527Jean-Paul was a reckless nutjob so he wouldn’t past long because Bruce would organise Dick and co. to take him out
>>154344527>>154349496What if Bane just killed Bruce?
>>154349528But... AzBats BAD!
>>154349528Jean-Paul would still get taken down. Either by cops or by other heroes, or hell, maybe by a villain. He isn’t that good at being Batman and relies entirely on Bruce’s pre-existing infrastructure.
>>154348364>Clark and Lois raise Conner and Kara as their kids alongside Kid Jon.I'd take just Connor and Kara.
>>154350094Forgot the pic
>>154344527Been thinking of something incorporating a "Robin Lives" nihilist version (but not like DeMatteis) that seen some other Jason fans also consider with how some creators saw him as done for either way.Though realistically out of universe, Tim and Damian wouldn't exist if he lived. Someone else could do better:>Jason is struggling to heal after brain damage and Bruce winds up putting him off in a facility thinking "it's better this way">Jason hates being treated as a vegetable but can't fully articulate it >Somehow breaks out or gets lost in the shuffle during some event>Parallels of him encountering Talia or someone that helps restore him>Doesn't result in Red Hood exactly but he has a crashout still at realizing even though he's alive, he's been replaced and "what difference does it make?" if he lived or died>Haunts the narrative as the "lost Robin" but with actual connection between what he was and what he is (unlike with Winick)>Positioned as a Phoenix Ikki sort of figure for the Latinos and fujos who know their CDZ, more than Ninja Turtle-fying the Robins: redeemable but not really being part of a team and their differences show the rift. He'll show up to assist if he wants, but is left doing his own thing a lot.
Not a comic but I hope one day we get an early 2000's CW-style Danny Phantom show. Make it semi horror and action. Something like Jujutsu Kaisen, Tokyo Ghoul, or Deadman. Like to me Danny Phantom is a bit like Deadman and I think it would be interesting to explore what it means to be a kid who's halfway between life and dead and having to protect the world from ghosts who escaped the underworld due to your own mistake.
>>154344527Real Detective Comics, every mainline DC cape, villain or hero, gets taken down by actual cops for good, superpowers are ambiguously real but there's no magical flight bullshit or ninja gaijin smoke bomb shit or speed forceno story runs more than 3 issues, year one is Batman, Wonder Woman, Jonkler, Killer Crocit's more like a crackdown on furries and ugly people who happen to also be organised crime, serial killers or vigilantes than a Ruins or LoEG
>>154346544So you want them to be even more gay
>>154351632That’s shit
>>154351881get outta here you fucking theater kid
>>154344527I want to see Superman and Batman switch cities, vaguely like Speeding Bullets.>Clark is raised in/near Gotham and his vigilantism is tested against much worse criminals>The Waynes live in Metropolis, Bruce is a rival to LuthorI wonder if Bruce would end up closer to Iron Man, and I don't know if Superman would be testing his ideals of hope versus a much more hostile city or lean into fear like Batman did. Speeding Bullets had Clark start as Batman until he was shown that a superpowered Batman would be even more terrifying and unhinged than the regular one, so he just evolved into being standard Superman again.
>>154352308What kills the Waynes in Metropolis?
>>154352308>Kal's pod is what causes the earthquake that triggers No Man's Land
>>154344527Widower>An alternate Peter Parker corrupted by perpetually failing to save May from dying>Acts as an allegory for editorial constantly resetting his life
The YJ Episode where all the adults in the world vanish except its permanent would make for a good AU in both DC and Marvel.>DC Earth suddenly plunged into chaos due to the Anti-Life Equation removing all adults from Earth. The Titans and other young heroes must pick up the pieces of society, reform the Justice League, and stop Darkseid's coming invasion >Marvel Earth in a similar predicament from the Infinity Stones weilded by Ultron deleting all adults. The Young Avengers, Champions, and Power Pack must save the earth and Prevent Ultron from taking over the world.
>>154352900You need a better writer than me but my gut immediately says it's a Warren situation with the Waynes either knowing too much or just threatening Luthor's business too much and needing to be iced out with hired goons. It also gets me thinking that a Metropolis Batman might get a Beyond-esque prototype suit sooner with Metropolis' more futurist atmosphere.
>>154344527One may already exist but what about an alternate history where Krypton never implodes?
>>154353102>Earth explodes>humans send one single child to a far off world called Krypton>his name: Bruce Wayne
>>154344527A very, very, semi realistic alternate history where much of the modern day characters had their starts in the 70s and and saw most of their careers in the 80s before, for the most part, retiring in the early 2000s after one last adventure handing over the mantle to various Legacies. The Justice League form, initially informally, as a result of its founding members uncovering a White Martian infiltration plot wherein, after replacing key Soviet and American officials, they try to initiate WWIII to weaken Earth for Martian invasion. After thwarting the invasion the League forms in earnest (this would be around 1979-1980). The invasion attempt, however, results in the CPSU placing more trust in its Meta Humans who, by and large, were Un-infiltrated by the White Martians. This would, ultimately, reflect the cliques that formed within the party as the Peoples’ Heroes would generally be representative of status quo party members, the Red Shadows being more Communist Hardliners, and the Soyuz Team being more amenable to something like Gorbachev and his reforms. The Red Rocket Brigade would not really be any clique in particular and its men would vary politically from person to person. In the United States, trust in the Government has plummeted and (for obvious reasons) anti alien sentiment is on the rise. Similar to real life, at this time, this causes a surge in militia/paramilitary activity some of which, but not all, are comprised of meta humans themselves. Broadly anti government, these militias are vigilante groups and some of them are good, others are bad. Most of the mainline press Lumps the Justice League in with these Anti Government organizations which rubs some members the wrong ways while others are amenable to the idea. To address the surge of paramilitary activity, however, the Federal Government using in universe Roosevelt era laws re-mobilizes the JLA (which in this revision is more of a government backed team) and utilizes…
>>154353535The Department of Extranormal Operations to infiltrate these anti Government Meta Human and super science paramilitaries with the dual purpose of making them Controlled Opposition or entrapment schemes. As in real life, sometimes this stops legitimate attacks though, sometimes, it’s abused by corrupt agents seeking career advancement or shadowy bureaucrats and politicians wishing to maintain the status quo by going after political dissidents. On top of this, the Federal Government forms a new, less clean faced, Hero team alongside the JSA in the form of Checkmate. Members of Checkmate would be less idealistic than JSA members and would be more apprised of secret projects meant to act as contingencies, such as Project 7734 and CADMUS, should the Justice League were to ever turn against the American Government. These projects, along with a nascent Human Defense Corps, would have their beginnings in the 80s but not truly come to fruition until the 90s. In the meantime, the Justice League of America and the Justice Society of America would collaborate on international and extraterrestrial threats, often combatting Super Villains, Alien invaders, or their Counterpart teams from the Soviet Union.
>>154353695On the part of the Soviets, I certainly intend for the different Soviet teams to class in 1991 in tandem with the Coup attempt by CPSU hardliners. What I’m not sure on, however, is if I want the hardliners to win and thus allow the Soviet Union to persist or if I still want the Coup attempt to fail. The former being the case delves further into alt history and extends the Cold War which is certainly appealing in of itself, however, the latter is compelling as well as it can carry these characters into a Post Soviet world. Friends would find themselves now belonging to different nations and there’s a lot of narrative potential to explore seeing how they handle the collapse and whether each individual character, be they reformer, hardliner, or status quo politically ultimately fine the dissolution for the best or to the ultimate detriment of the post Soviet Peoples.There, of course, would be a similar clash of the American teams which would provide similar themes. Indeed, perhaps, a dissolution of the United States itself is in the cards and it would be fascinating to explore how Superman would handle such a scenario. Like the Soviet plot, however, I haven’t finalized anything though, ultimately, I am keen on the idea of a Luthor Presidency intensifying matters.
>Bronze Age that CoiE never happened >Bruce kill the Joker and start a war with Iran because Superman is still exiled so didn't stop him.When Clark come back is in a TDKR-like world.>Erradicator wins and Superman became the krypton man and Tim Drake never became robin so Bruce is still insane and angry. This world is sorta like a twisted SA stuff>Like the one in OP but all the 90s death heroes never went back. Batman is Jean-Paul Valley, Kon is Superman , Kyle is Green Lantern and Connor is Green Arrow.>Flashpoint , The return of bruce wayne and Flash: Rebirth never happened so is more a New Earth with new gen of heroes.>Nu52/DC You mixed with Future Ends: Superman is depowered, Diana the God of War, Terry McGinnis is using Gordon batman mecha...
>>154352900>>154352308Thomas Wayne died in Smallville in one Imaginary Story, so is not that hard to believeIronically was the issue were Batman slap Robin happened
>>154344527They did that story in Dark Multiverse. Azrael turned Gotham into a cyberpunk police state and tortured Bruce into supporting his line of thought on being a Batman who killed, so that Bruce continued JPV's reign of terror when he was freed and JPV killed
>>154344567Much to Dick's dismay because he hates being Batman.
>>154353033>ays it's a Warren situation with the Waynes either knowing too muchWhich has been used in their origin since Bill Finger came up with that in the 50s, Thomas Wayne was a targeted hit by Lew Moxon who was exposed by Thomas. This explanation gets retconned and bought back so much people forget how old it is.
>>154350580Why do that bullshit when you have Raven?>>Raven heals Jason, who ends up joining the Titans full time>>Jason exposes the Wildebeast as the former leader of HIVE and that Jericho is possessed by Azarath, preventing Titans Hunt and Jericho's death. This causes Bruce to bring Jason back as Robin full time.Basically show what the greater DC universe would have been like had Jason stayed Robin and not died
>>154344527Batman: Augur-Captain(yes this leans into AoS whatever)>Bruce is reimagined as a Witch-Hunter using a image of a rich figure as his front to make his>Robin is his student>other heroes(e.g. Nightwing, Red Hood and Red Robin) fit roles, acting as his subordinates>His enemies are more death-themed(e.g. Mortimer is a necromancer, Mad Monk is a Vampire, etc)>Ra's is always there cuz why not? I love Ra's
>>154354119Nothing new under the sun and all that.
>>154354093>turned Gotham into a cyberpunk police stateSo like Bruce did in Kingdom Come(which is usually ignored because would made him look bad)
>>154355373Which ironic because of the three, he is propped as the one making a point.
>>154352308I think Superman raised in Gotham might be more like the 1930s/early 1940s Golden Age Superman. That version of Superman also scared criminals.
>>154352308>>154353033>>154354119>>154356572>>154352915I think there's something hereSuperman raised in Gotham (and the Kents either being alive or not getting killed by Gotham Crime) would probably become the Golden Age Superman. You could give him the Fleischer costume so that signifies he's a bit darker in Gotham yet not really that dark compared to regular Superman. Plus he probably would also operate during the day, not just the night so criminals may have to change tactics and stuffSimilarly Bruce Wayne in Metropolis and his parents getting killed by a hitman hired by Luthor could go in a lot of different directions. Like do you also have a story where Luthor learns Bruce is Batman? Does Bruce learn that Luthor was behind his parents' death early on and his reason for traveling the world was to learn how to do things undetected without Luthor being aware of his every move?
>>154354018I wanna see this but done in the style of like Curt Swan or other artists that were still doing the books pre-COIE, to signify that COIE never happened
>>154344527The animated Crisis movie's take on the Batfamily made me consider a Batman Beyond AU>History is largely based on Earth-2, but some Earth-1 stuff incorporated.>Bruce has Helena (who is Huntress) with Selina and Damian (who is Robin) with Talia, both growing up as they respectively did>Bruce retires and begins work on a project he dubs "Batman Inc", but dies during its formulation, leaving his allies and family to pick up the pieces.>Terry gets involved and shows enough promise that Dick or somebody offers Terry the position of being Batman and the face of the Batman Inc program>Terry juggles his every-day life with Batman activitiesCould probably add more of the family - Tim could work for Batman Inc, having never lost his parents in this reality, Babs and her reactions to Bruce having been the successor to James, etc. Could even go with how Earth-2 kept Harvey's reformation have him be an ally or mentor to Helena (to my knowledge, she worked in law on Earth-2).
>>154358818Forgot to add: Terry and Matt aren't related to Bruce in this hypothetical and their resemblance is just a coincidence ala Earth 2's "Harvey Kent"
>>154349626Idk he was getting his shit together before his hallucinations hit
>>154357873I really want to see how they handle each other's rogues gallery, especially this Superman against the usual Arkham weirdos.>Like do you also have a story where Luthor learns Bruce is Batman? Does Bruce learn that Luthor was behind his parents' death early on and his reason for traveling the world was to learn how to do things undetected without Luthor being aware of his every move?That's a good question, I'm not sure. If Batman uses Wayne tech I feel Luthor of all people would at LEAST figure that Batman is being backed by Bruce's company.
>>154352900Luthor? I dunno, what's the age difference between Lex and Bruce? I know Lex is typically portrayed as older than Clark.
>>154346544That's just Telltale Batman, anon.
I will eventually finish my fic of what would happen if Overgirl didnt die in the final crisis storyline
>>154360248Will you, missy?
>>154359930Let's say Bruce knows Luthor ordered the death of his parents early on and knows that he can't prove it because a lot of the evidence got destroyed. Luthor would not be as easy to take down as Lew Moxon wasWhat if Bruce starts using Luthor's tactics in a different way, remember this scene from the Man of Steel miniseries? Bruce could be Batman but also recruit people to also be Batman (and this could also lead to another Iron Man comparison of Bruce pretending Batman is his bodyguard). Maybe Luthor knows Bruce is Batman but also can't prove it because Bruce hid his tracks as well as Luthor.
Reversal of the Batman Who Laughs scenario>Joker somehow gets his hands on someone's mind control device and rigs it to affect the entire city, making everyone like him.>Batman arrives to stop him, but something goes wrong with the device causing it to overload. >Batman stops the device but dies in the process. Joker is hit by a blast from it and disappears.>Joker has become "infected" with Batman's mindset, his sense of justice, his morality, his conscious. For several weeks he struggles with this as his sense of self becomes warped. The guilt for his past actions threatens to overwhelm him and he considers turning himself into the police, but the "Joker" side of him is still struggling to hold on.>With Batman gone, the city falls further and further into chaos. While Joker is struggling to piece together his identity, he sees something on TV. On the news. A family was gunned down in an alley. The same alley that Bruce Wayne's parents died in. And that's when, for the first time since the incident, the Joker laughs. >A couple weeks later, a new masked vigilante appears and starts cleaning up Gotham.>Also, this is post-Death in the Family and Killing Joke, so that also adds to his guilt.
>>154360074If we're doing like post-COIE then Luthor would be a lot older than Bruce and ClarkOther stuff like Silver/Bronze or 2000s DC have Luthor the same age as Clark
>>154360248You won’t
>>154360473>Bruce could be Batman but also recruit people to also be Batman (and this could also lead to another Iron Man comparison of Bruce pretending Batman is his bodyguard).Would we get some type of Batfamily this way?>Maybe Luthor knows Bruce is Batman but also can't prove it because Bruce hid his tracks as well as Luthor.I actually like that a lot, the each of them waiting for the other to slip up so they can expose them, it's more mindgames in each direction and that could be really fun.
>>154360729>Would we get some type of Batfamily this way?Probably; it might be very different people depending on their histories and where they would beSay that Clark in Gotham figures out that Tony Zucco was threatening Haly's Circus (like before the trapeze got rigged). That could mean Clark saves the Graysons from being killed and Dick's life goes differently as he also looks up to Superman. Maybe he just skips the Robin part and becomes Nightwing after Superman tells him about Kryptonian mythology some years later
>>154361254Do we know of any Metropalites(?) that could feasibly end up a part of said bat-family?>DickI could see him just going straight into Nightwing in this scenario, yeah. I wonder if Babs would even end up in vigilantism at all since it's kinda hard for a Batgirl (or Supergirl in this case lol) to keep up with Clark. I also wonder how he'd handle the rogues, cause Speeding Bullets Superbat decided to just fucking kill him which I don't think this rougher Clark would do.
>>154361388>Do we know of any Metropalites(?) that could feasibly end up a part of said bat-family?Jose Delgado/Crimebuster could be oneI'm trying to think of some others
>>154361507Correction, Gangbuster, not Crimebuster
>>154361388If he's like Golden Age Superman then he'll probably avoid killing them most of the time, but if they die, they die. Some of the villains maybe he figures out that they turned to villainy due to circumstances beyond their control and maybe even some might get inspired to join himI kind of wonder if Bane would go to Metropolis or to Gotham though. He wants to break Batman to get over his fear of bats, but it's Bird who gives him the idea to go to Gotham (because Bird came from Gotham) Would he choose to break Superman or Batman?
>>154361388Oh yeah. Dick could be inspired by the Krypton Night-Wing which means Tim or Barb could feasably become Flamebirs
>>154361507That's a good pick.>>154361754So you think he could have a better reform rate than Bruce?>Bane.... CAN he break Superman? Unless he's juicing on kryptonite I don't see it, and that's a good way to give himself cancer like Lex did lmao>>154361805So instead of them joining the Super family per se they become the Nightwing family. Flamebird Babs could be cool.
>>154344527>>Post your AU/What If?/Elseworlds idea.The Lois as the Eradicator timeline. It starts in the 90s and with Kryptonian tech super-androids loyal to earth she's managed to take over the planet. By now she's so bloodthirsty and paranoid the Justice Lords have to forcibly step in and shut it down. If I were writing it the tone would be comedic like in The Death of Stalin.
>>154361947>earth*Loyal to *her.* Fuck.
>>154361932If Bane were going after Superman then yeah he'd use Kryptonite-enhanced Venom which would inevitably fuck him up worse than the regular Venom ever didIf he's going after Batman maybe it could be that he also found out that Lexcorp is in some way for the circumstances in Santa Prisca and wants to take both Batman and Luthor down
Clark becomes a superhero, but he tries to hide the fact that he's a superpowered alien, so he uses a suit and gadgets that look like they're what's powering him. Bulletproof body? It's the suit. Super strength? Suit. Heat vision? His goggles can shoot lasers. Flight? Jet pack.Problem is the suit can't actually entirely explain all shit he does. Lex suspects that there's more to him and so it becomes an arms race where Lex creates bigger and better shit to unveil Clark's secret, while Clark has to come up with more and more bullshit "technology" to explain his shit.
>>154362197Also Lex is just increasingly frustrated because Clark keeps coming up with bullshit science to explain his "tech", and Lex is always like "THAT DOESN'T MAKE ANY FUCKING SENSE! WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?!"
>>154362061Bane going after both Lex and Bruce makes him feel like an amoral underdog and wild card if you ask me, kind of interesting.
>>154344527A Elseworld where a Kid Bruce Wayne got the power of SHAZAM.
>>154362197Bouncing off that... i would love to see a steampunk Superman. Like what sort of suit and body experiments would Lex do in a world without computers? And all to match with an alien who can fly
>>154363947I feel like if you're gonna do Steampunk, you'd kinda have to tone Superman the fuck down. Like just "faster than a speeding bullet, more powerful than a locomotive, able to leap tall buildings in a single bound", and that's it.
>>154363999As a Supermanfag i have never not been fine with a Superman who isn't overpowered to fuck. A good way to get around it in my opinion is that the smog and shit from industrial era Metropolis is basically blocking the sun and Superman isn't absorbing the rays he would need to like, drag planets around.
>>154361507>>154361388Ben Lockwood/Agent Liberty would be another choiceMaybe some of these characters on the Metropolis Special Crimes Unit:https://dc.fandom.com/wiki/Category:Metropolis_Special_Crimes_Unit_members
An AU where Kara arrives on Earth and crash lands on Paradise Island. She becomes Superwoman and pretty much leads the Amazons Maybe a what if you switched Batman and Spider-Man. I mean if Spider-Man was DC and Batman was Marvel. I'm much more interested in the former and I suspect its due to Spider-Noir. Elseworld's in which Namor, Dr. Doom, Black Panther, Black Bolt, Thor, and Kratoa era Magneto are genuine Kings who war with each other over who claims which part of earth
>>154364246>Thor>parts of Earth…is he claiming monarchy over Oklahoma?
>>154363947I do like the idea of a daily Planet in that sort of setting. I would like to see a Daily Bugle version of that one GCPD comic. It might be a bit more boring because newspapers but there are so many news cycles and characters cycling in and out of New York. Do some character drama. Make Betty Brandt the main character and set it between Peter joining and Ned Leeds kidnapping her as the Hobgoblin. Do some shit with Ben Urich and Daredevil. Robbie and and Prowler and Tombstone. But J. J. Jameson would be steering the ship and witnessing events and you can see that to him these events with heroes fighting villains does seem like a threat and he isn't trying to slander them. He just has a perspective. Oh and I know Marvels was pretty much this but i specifically reference the GCPD comic because when a Batman moment happened in that comic it did seem like they were fucked until a superhero arrived.
>>154364682I ran out of royalty. I was thinking of Black Adam for some reason lul
>>154364687I fucking love the way this is drawn. Its a good thing Jameson is such a distinct character. The reader already knows who this is
>>154344527>Batman takes a venom capsule before his first fight with BaneI'm just curious. I just want to know how different the fight would have been.
>>154346959This actually works a lot better as the premise instead of it being the Joker as the lead. You couod even have Wesker doing puppet shows for kids or have him recently be fired from some sesame street esq kids show which was big during the time period instead of some "clown for hire service", maybe he's fired or gets in trouble because Scarface is too raunchy but he can't simmer the act down as the puppet just has a "life of his own". Wesker is purpose built to be a soft, insecure guy surrounded by evil and then snapping hard into delusion with a persona, the Joker isn't.
>>154347360I love how hot and deranged and cute and deranged she looks.
>>154364687>I would like to see a Daily Bugle version of that one GCPD comicAsk and you shall receive
>>154366354lmao Richard looks like a responsible hard working man.
>>154361805They both might, maybe also Bette Kane as well.If we're going by the pre-FP backstory, Tim was there to witness the death of the Flying Graysons, so in this world he would be there to witness Superman saving them, and probably deduce their secret identities years laterJason I'm not completely sure about because the way he met Batman was through trying to steal the tires off the Batmobile. If Batman isn't in Gotham that wouldn't be happening. But if this Superman is basically like 1938 Superman he'd probably see that Jason needed help or better guidance.
>>154366209I think he'd get worn out but not get broken
The entire DC universe reimagined where everything is instead an edgy 2002 Flash series on Albinoblacksheep.
>>154344527>90s-era DC timeline where Bruce Wayne's back never fully heals and Jean-Paul Valley remains as BatmanPretty ironic what you just said, because there’s actually an animated Batman project about Jean-Paul Valley now. I never would've expected that to actually happen.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NApbwwm4aU
>>154346869It's inevitable.Unless you want to work in a logical explanation for why Nightwing would abandon Bruce, Tim, and Gotham like that.
>>154348207The problem is that it really wasn't a Crisis story but rather a Last Days of JSA story, but nobody would have bought it otherwise
>>154344527>>What if Superman really died in Death of Superman. How does the rest of post-crisis play out?>What if Nightwing died in Infinite Crisis? Not Didio's murder porn but an actual story about the impact radiating out across the DCU. How it affects OYL Outsiders, Titans, Batman RIP, etc.>Marvel Ruins equivalent of the DCU>NYC (Titans, JSA) gets suddenly moved to hell, dungeons and dragons style.
>>154344527Caveman-era Justice League facing Vandal Savage for the first time.
