You look lonely.>>154343279
Silly wabbit! So, so silly!
>>154346651Goose has been on 4chan. That's how he trooned out. He absolutely saw the yabbaposts and thought doing it to Jax would be funny.
>>154346712I still don't understand how that re-evaluation was suppose to work.
>>154346721He actually trooned out from Luigi TF art on Deviantart
why did they do this
You just know this dude was throwing slurs 24/7 until he abstracted
HIS circusHIS worldHIS show
Ribbit not making it to the sex update is a crime.
>>154346731Oh yeah, my bad. He still used our terms though and expected everyone to know them, so 4chan probably played some role.
>>154346696SEXO
>>154345411>>154345605Finished reading that second one, it is very good. Easily the best of the "Jax doesn't abstract" fics to come out of the finale that I've seen.
>>154346712I want that same hand to make him ejaculate
>>154346736That's a transwoman biggot
Just got to the finale. I wasn't hoping for SOMA but it pulled it off alright. Black Gangle as canon rules.My honest issue, despite not liking Jax much, was feeling he got slighted by the ending. They showed his backstory, showed him abstracted but implying they could fix it (and thus pull back the other abstracted members), but just kinda left him. That feels either unbearably half-assed, or like sequel bait.
evil pomni pegging jax would've fixed him
>>154346734You’d do it too
>>154346696Show as dead as 41% of Jaxcels
>>154346736Egg is literally me
>>154346757I’m sorry anon but Gangle is indian
I saw Pomni’s butthole the other day
OC Anchor!whiteboardhttps://r2.whiteboardfox.com/25851792-0702-0056+/co/llectionhttps://co.llection.pics/post/list/the_amazing_digital_circus+NSFW thread:>>>/trash/83559792
>>154346684Another season, but instead it's an exact copy of the Circus program, and with a copy of Caine's AI. However, he seems more off this time around, somewhat mentally disturbed by something even worse than before. A bunch of new humans with new designs show up.Would be a neat Season 2, and the Circus would look entirely different yet still have a circusy-abstract theme in mind.One of the characters from Season 1 would be there. I'm thinking Jax, or Kaufmo. There is one big difference though between this program and the other one, and it's that due to a (perhaps deliberate) oversight in the game-world's code, you can't actually abstract, no matter how much you spiral.So not even metaphorical suicide is an escape this time around. Jax or Kaufmo are just gonna have to get their shit together.
Damn, the inflated economy is really starting to get to me..
>>154346775Genuinely heartbreakingThough I'd fuck indian chicks, it's just the men that are awful
SBN3, the creator of Class of '09 is an irl version of Jax, I am not joking, I am not being facetious.If you are familiar with Class of '09 and if you're a fan of TADC and know what the author of Class of '09 is like, you will understand what I am talking about.
>>154346766yeah, i would
Gangle needs to shove her ribbons entirely into Jax's amazing digital pussy so only her smug mask is covering "his" crotch.
>>154346776Heard any news from the other digital realms?
>>154346635I want to improve her life after everything Jax put her through. Call me autistic, but I have developed a hormonal urge to protect her when I see her after the ending while feeling an urge to rip Jax limb from limb.
>>154346787BIG CHUNGUS!https://youtu.be/cB4dYfFgaME?si=t4PQHXtyQi2__Zlu&t=11
>>154346763Evil Pomni makes Funnybunny good.
>>154346696>You look like a good Caine.
someone explain the finale to me like I'm retarted, about halfway through i had no idea what story it was trying to tell.
>>154346696I bet an anthropomorphized Moon would have huge saggin tits.
>>154346819Goose has dismissed that claim.
>>154346810No that’s very understandable.
>>154346818The rabbit is a closeted troon and dies
The hearts coming out of Zooble's room in the end credits imply that she is getting fucked by Caine. Fags will say it's Gangle but we all know Zooble craves the BCC (Big Caine Cock). That's why she mixed him a special drink
Will normies leave the TADC fandom? Ever ince Goose made that post 99% of TADC shit is trannyposting
>>154346833That post does not dismiss that claim.
>>154346842It's a threesome
>>154346818that's normal, goose had no idea what story he was trying to write
>>154346833Kaufmo was LITERALLY ME if I was in the circus
>>154346818SOMA theory confirmedJax has one massive woman momentSomehow Caine returnedCredits roll
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otCDH1pKd9g
Pomni lovers her salmon.
>>154346848Already have
>>154346849>Ragatha is a bigger cardboard cutout than KaufmoThis really the angle you wanna take?
>>154346852I've been gone from these threads for like 3 weeks to avoid spoilers; is the cuck art guy still here? I need smug cuck Gangle watching Zooble get fucked by Caine
https://poal.me/utkf5oCaineGODS...We must overtake the doll, and prove our superiority as GODS amongst the peasantry.
>>154346867That is not a sentence I typed.
>>154346815corn....
>>154346782This would be such an awesome for season 2 desu. Massive brain fuck too. Shame Goose's confirmed there will be no more tadc.
>>154346833what does this have to do with ragatha
You have Jax at your mercy. What would you do to him/her?
i want her, a lot
>>154346812
>>154346877Anon is falsely assuming that Ragatha could not understand what happened to Ribbit because Kaufmo didn’t understand what happened to Ribbit.
>>154346877Was she not there too?
Say what you say about Joker and Homelander but at least they didn't turn into suicidal tranny cuckdogs
>>154346833Ur just very desperate to post this image under any post you can find arent you
>>154346891>Ragatha saw it but didn't do anythingStop digging this hole, man.
I want to crack Ribbit so bad bros
>>154346886I strap him down like clockwork orange and make him watch The Amazing Digital Circus.And then I give him tons of examples of the fans who support him all over the world.It’s punishment and torture that he deserves but maybe he’ll get over himself and be happy on the other side.
>>154346864>IT'S THE FISH DISH AGAAAIIINNN!
>>154346893I’LL SUCK YOUR DICKKKI’LL EAT YOUR SHITTTTT
>>154346874>implying Goose won't give Arin Hanson sticky notes to write season 2 so the millions still roll in for him while he chills in his mansion
>>154346906Its a very fun file
>>154346909That is not a sentence I typed. We see her do something in the show btw.
>>154346930>We see her do something in the show btw.And whats that? Try to comfort Jax after shes dead?
Does anon seriously think we are retarded enough to think goose is blaming kaufmo on that post
I'm back and ready to say death to all non-brainscan NPCs
>>154346870I ain't taking my vote away from Bubble, Cainefriend.God, do I miss all the sexy Caine posting right after 8 dropped.
>>154346886I'll have impregnating sex with Pomni and WON'T let his cuck ass watch.
>>154346943Unfortunately yes
>>154346944This is gore of my comfort character...
>>154346944
>>154346937Once the situation becomes clear she tries to resolve it as amicably as she can, yeah. But of course he shuts her out.Naturally she’ll carry her suspicions over time and bring it to the Pomni era.
>>154346954NO
So everyone agrees Jax killing himself is Ragatha's fault, right?
>>154346919Honestly, this still isn't as bad as what happened to Jax. Cuckdog purgatory for failing to troon is crazy.
Ragatha wont revive me in arc raiders, telling me that her loot is more valuable than me
>>154346953Pomnianon loves me and me alone!
>>154346870>She can’t get getting away with it!And yet…
Why is Digital Circus so “I have a bottomless chasm on the inside of my heart and I need to commit suicide”?
>>154346870>ribbit is now at 10 votesHoly fucking shit. The ribbitchads are actually winning?
>>154346970>Ragatha killed the villainMy HERO.
>>154346970"We've all done bad things" is a subtle reference to every single character failing Jax who just needed a single speck of actual kindness
>>154346972Are people really reading that much into the bow on his head? Or did goose confirm it all as troonery?
Im glad me complaining about tourists complaining about moon made more people pickup on moonpostingShe is really cute and we need more people posting her besides me
>>154346944Great
>>154346990>>154346970actually kinger did thatif kinger hadn't accidentally deleted caine, jax would've never abstracted in the first place
>>154346978I know you arent gangleposter, you cant fool me bitch.
>>154346943Kaufmo was a fucker. not funny, and problematic as hell. he drove Ribbit to suicide with his lame ass edgy jokes, not Jax and his crybaby bully behavior
>>154346993Show would have been better if in episode one Jax was the abstracted monster and Kaufmo was our male lead. He would have piped Pomni by end of episode 3, mark my words
Gangleposter I thought we were past this…
>>154346696>>154345312It got me thinking: what would it be like if this entire show was written like Adventure Time through and through? How would you describe its outcome on the story and our perception of it all?
>>154346970>Jax ignores Ribbit and she kills herself>this is Jax's fault>Pomni, Ragatha, Gangle, and Kinger all ignore Jax and he kills himself>this is also Jax's faultgoose really hates himself
>>154346990>villainEvery action Jax did was for the betterment of the circus minus killing ximself
I only think about Pomni. I don’t even know how to poop in a toilet anymore. I forgot how and replaced that knowledge with Pomni. Pomni Pomni Pomni.
>>154346994Confirmed, but even then, Jax being a troon was obvious. The egg cracking metaphor and yolk skeleton, the dress and Zooble telling him he of all people should like it, and the bow because there is very few options of what that could mean.
I gave this an honest watch, but it felt like one big melodramatic bait and switch
>>154347003Was Jax REALLY that horny to be eaten by Caine?
>>154346970Jax is at fault.
>>154347019Death of the author, lil' guppie. Death of the author.
>>154347022that's because it was
>>154347015Jax killing zimself was the best thing ever done for the Circus.
Knowing that a lot more kids/teenagers and vulnerable young adults are going to get groomed into thinking they're trans because of the finale fills me with horrible fucking dreadI just want this shit to be over already, why can't it just end
>>154347006>>154347011You are both fakers and I don't even care, my real Pomni won't ever come for me so I've decided to become evil
>>154347035The Circus lost it's soul when ze died anon...
>>154347019You lose your based card over this one goose. A real snatching defeat from the jaws of victory moment.
>>154347036It fills me with the opposite of dread. It tickles me pink!
>>154347033No, because Jaxfags losing by so much after getting so cocky is funny. I just wish it didn't take up all the finale screentime.
Post Punkgatha
So why isn't GLITCH worried that the creator confirming one of their main characters as a tranny and making it the main plot point of the finale might hurt the IP in the long run
>>154347019That really does knock the quality of the whole show down a few notches.
>>154346994>literally plays isn't she lovely over Jax's memorial montage>"wait Jax is trans???!?"are people really this stupid or just in denial
>>154346736He's probably the reason why there was a censor.
>>154347053I didn't need to know about your erection, anon
I want to see Pomni’s ass
>>154347047The Circus gained its soul when xe died. Our HEROES can finally relax now that they're no longer around Jax.
>>154347052Seriously. I just watched it and everything with Jax felt so horribly bungled. The rest was iffy but okay, but the Jax stuff failed to land and brings it from like 7-8/10 to 4-5/10
yabba dabba doo
yo nigga this series is tranniecoded like bruh you're clown and sheit why so serious
>>154347044You got his filenames wrong and he doesn't post that stuff anymore.You really think you know him better than me?
>>154346696
Don’t.
>>154346943Well yeah "he should have known better" so he's partly to blame for this
>>154347058Doesn't matter because they're still making a fuck ton of money
>>154347055
>>154347061That is a Pomni montage from Jax's perspective thoughbeit
>>154347019People lying to themselves that Jax isn't trans really is the new version of people lying to themselves that SOMA theory isn't canon
>>154346943>and he should haveWhat could Goose have possibly meant by this?
>Made him voice a canon troon>made him do the humiliation ritual on twitter for an old jokeWhy is Michael so punished?
>>154346696>Blue Moon, You Saw Me Standing Alone...
>>154347101No, its even more ridiculous because there was still uncertainty towards the ending before SOMA was confirmed, but theres literally no room for interpretation for this stuff anymore so they are just coping against reality
>>154347113>*mommy issue flashback but also turned on*
>>154347101To be fair, while both are true both are so incredibly gay I don't want them to be
>>154347086You're right-wing we get it
>>154347019>yolk skeletonWhere do you freaks even get all these ideasI'm sorry but no, for anyone that is not part of your cult this shit just comes out of nowhere, not a single normalfag saw it coming either, the immense majority of them don't even know he's one too to this day
Ok so he REALLY does think we are retarded
>>154347055Punk queen
>>154347085>Memorizing other anon's filenames
>>154346696Why didn't they make the moon a part of the buried AI? It matched the color, they tried to have it say something to Caine during the suggestion box episode and it would have at least given some character to the being he otherwise just killed and disposes of when he's done with it. They could have kept the dialogue the same except at the end have it reveal that it was a part that was always watching and wishing it could help because it was sympathetic from the start which is why I let Caine do what he did. Or something. I don't know
>>154346990>>154347003Ragatha and Kinger when they accidentally made the abusive troon kill xerself, making everyone's lives better.
>>154347140Anon I can recognize people here by the way they type and the words they use.
When Jax told Ribbit he was afraid he killed his mother I thought her reaction to that information was very awkward. Just says "It'll be ok, the cops didnt come after you" is such a weird way to tell that to someone. >>154347061On my first viewing I thought the song was about Pomni being such a lovely person she'd sacrifice herself to save an irredeemable faggot like JaxThe song being about Jax makes it feel disgusting so im just gonna pretend its about pomni. Also Jax isn't lovely, precious, pretty, or any of those things. It feels genuinely Satanic to make that song be about him.I fucking wanted a sequel until Goose started spouting this shit all over Twitter, now I've moved on from caring
>>154347142Honestly yeah, having nothing of it or Bubble coming back around feels like huge dangling threads. I'm glad we had less useful information scenes cut for Jax faggotry
>>154347055Rockstar rags
>>154347116troll remorsehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PPVRkiJPgY
>>154347140Yes im insane like that, especially when its someone i enjoy talking to.
>>154347151Grim
>>154347036https://youtu.be/We52q8vv8Wc?si=paBiAA_6fozPKtvF&t=12Jax was much more based when he was just a little mischievous trickster at the start of the series. He hid how much he actually cared about the others to keep himself sane, but he was still a somewhat cruel prankster who liked to push buttons here and there.EP 1–3 Jax and EP 9 Jax are basically completely different fucking characters. I feel like Goose's resentment for the show started bleeding into the writing, which is why the whole Jax humiliation ritual happens in the first place. Even though Jax is still as much a victim of the circus's insanity as anyone else, he just has extremely amoral coping mechanisms that eventually go way beyond cruel pranks. He's mostly responsible for pushing two other people away. Jax will never have to atone for his crimes or redeem himself, because the characters are still caring for his abstracted ass, even though he absolutely does not deserve any of it by the end.TL;DR - Goose really fucking hates Jax.
So was this like a parody of cliches from 15 years ago? Or was it seriously written that way with the predictability of everything?
>>154347177You'll have to be more specific.
>>154347156Seriously. I had the same thought and was kinda neutral about it as an ending, but hearing Goose's claims about it make me actively role my eyes. We got a combination of "it was all a dream" and "shitty tranny metaphor" combined.
>>154347177we live in a world where hazbin hotel got greenlit, so the high bar tadc was initially setting had to be dropped by some point; and who better than goose herself to accomplish that?
Predictability is such a meme.You predicted it because it was foreshadowed and the right trajectory for the story. This complaint is why we get le subverted expectations writing.
>>154347175He's mostly responsible for pushing two other people away into killing themselves*
>>154347175>TL;DR - Goose really fucking hates Jax.Well, yeah.
>>154347156I thought the same thing because I'm not Satanic.
>>154347022Feeding Pom Pom
>>154347198I remember the good times where this was just a>OH, GOOSEWORX! *laugh track*silly joke. Now it isn't so......Silly anymore.
>>154347183>Brainscans>Tron with how they can conjure shit>AI turns good in the end>Someone who couldn't open up to people diestheres more but it was... just so predictable as a series, i thought it was a parody of said cliches but i don't even know anymore.
Caine should've stayed dead.
>>154347065
>>154347175I think goose always wanted viewers to hate Jax since Jax represents pre-transition goose. When he realized that people actually like Jax and thought he was funny, he decided to rewrite him to be a total piece of shit.>"NOOO! YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO LIKE THE ME FROM BEFORE I TRANSITIONED! HE'S A FUCKING CHUD! YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO LIKE THE NEW ME!!!"
>>154347194Nah, foreshadowing is something you shouldn't notice until a second viewing, and if you do see something coming it should be the moment before it was revealed. Predictability is when you notice something coming long before it happens and before you ought to.
>>154347219>>154347194
>>154347194Predictable isn't bad unless it's the same cliche thats been seen in so many movies and shows over and over again.
Goose if you're reading this please humiliate Jax more in future art/installments, and in turn make Kovach troon out irl because it would be so funny
>>154347222I like how we can't bring back abstracted people because it would undercut 'themes and such' and loss and all thatbut Caine just bypasses the deletion anyway, and basically steal Jax's redemption arc from him
Posting the better mom killer that went through ego death.
>>154347235This isn't a Rebecca Sugar/Zach Callison situation. Kovach has never strongly identified with jax
>>154347226This.
>>154347225Many Such Cases
Ragatha cuddles need
>>154347175I feel like you faggots aren’t saying shit and are only trying to clog up the board
>>154347036The fact that the trans metaphor will not be picked up by normies does give me a little bit of hope, but then again it's very likely kids will get algorithm'd into a "Jax is trans" Youtube video and get groomed that way. Just very frustrating all around.
I don't use twitter social media; is Goose getting dragged for this? Has there been heat between the movie theater premiere and the a internet release?
>>154347238I feel it would've been more powerful had Caine filled the one who couldn't be saved instead.The scene where Pomni finds Jax in his mind parallels Pomni being saved from abstraction by her friends in episode 2 and then he kind of just... dies anyways. Themes and such'd.
How about an adventure where Ragatha is forced to be nude the entire time?
>>154347156>When Jax told Ribbit he was afraid he killed his mother I thought her reaction to that information was very awkward. Just says "It'll be ok, the cops didnt come after you" is such a weird way to tell that to someone.It's a logical conclusion made to comfort him and give him an answer to a question he'll never fully know the truth of. From their pov it's also entirely possible his mom's corpse rotted in her house for days before anybody noticed. It's just nicer to think of Ribbit's conclusion as being correct, it's the best thing you can really say from limited information.
the sooner you realize the realistic ending people demand is only for Jax while being okay with Disney endings for the rest the better
>>154347226We live in an increasingly media saturated age. You are chasing the high of being a dumb kid who still fell for the old classics. Being able to predict where a story will go especially when you outsource your brain to a fandom hivemind with years to predict the outcome one is not a negative, it’s just being an experienced adult. Execution is king, unpredicted twistslop is usually a negative because writers are so scared of telling a coherent story because people will guess it so what you get is the last jedi. Embrace the fact that you know how stories work instead of asking for stories that don’t work.
>>154347258>discussion no alloweyGay
>>154347194>>154347233Predictable and Foreshadowing are not the same thing wtf?
>>154347258They're correct though. It is like >>154347225said, Goose got mad people liked pre-tranny version more so had to punish the digital representation of him
>>154347274GIWTWM
>>154347224Cover that up, slut.
>>154347263The "themes and such" meme used to annoy me on principle, because I think themes are of chief importance to artistic works, but then I saw the kind of things it was mocking, and THEN I saw someone here have a meltdown over it, and now I love it
I just came to a drawing of Ragatha's ass
>>154347300Congrats you made yourself a reductive retard and such
>>154347263Yeah, they showed her hand grabbing him. To just abandon it for>muh tragic deathwas unbelievably limp dick
>>154347305Care to post it?
>>154347305Good job borther
>>154346993>every single character failing Jax who just needed a single speck of actual kindnessi'd give real money if jaxfags would pull their heads out of their asses
>spend countless years, perhaps even decades inside a digital hyperhell having his dick absolute destroyed by a BPD frog succubus>new guy shows up>sticks by his side to keep him safe from the amphibian semen demon>keeps dropping subtle hints about Ribbit's true nature>one day see him being dragged towards her room>knocks on his door to cockblock him and preserve his innocence>unbeknownst to him this set Jax away from the cuck tranny timeline>steps in to comfort Jax and help him cope after Ribbit acks>despite Jax's ingratitude, he still keeps an eye on him from afar>finds out a way to leave the digital hyperhell>first thing he does is run to Jax so they both can escape>he gets blown off but still doesn't give up>later gets cornered by Caine for trying to leave>REFUSES to admit he has told other people about it and takes the full punishment by himselfKaufmo... Was a hero...
>>154347305
>>154347222Its what I've been saying. I knew they were gonna do it when they had everyone come out and keep saying WAIT NO HES NOT REALLY EVIL after his freakout episode but God damn to see it done in a way that was just No he's not actually deleted he can MAGIC himself back to the circus like nothing happened at all. What the fuck was even the point of including it I wonder how many drafts the finale of this show in general went through
>>154347305Many such cases
>>154347225Is Gege just Japanese Goose? Because this is pretty much what happened to Gojo in Jujutsu Kaisen without the troon stuff. Or maybe with the troon stuff because Gege is so mysterious that his gender is up for discussion due to his series feeling very intentionally fujo-esque and drawing himself as a girl once despite identifying as a guy.
>>154347277>execution is kingYes, which is why this finale sucked
>>154347314Aw shit whatup
>>154347326why does he look like that
>>154347277>because writers are so scared of telling a coherent story because people will guess it so what you get is the last jedi. Embrace the fact that you know how stories work instead of asking for stories that don’t work.this is why there was so much subversion shit in TADC. Goose is too chronically online and media-saturated to write a normal, cohesive story. She can also predict where the story is heading, so she tries to take it in every which direction she can so that people will never be able to predict the ending.It's kind of unfortunate how it happens to so many writers nowadays when it didn't before.
>>154347175Yeah. Personally I think the self-inserting took over:>At first Jax is written as a character with his own issues whatever they were inspired by.>Then Goose projects onto him more and more as time goes on until he's embodying everything the author hated about himself rather than being a coherent continuation of what he was originally designed to be.
>>154347325this is what actually happened, RIP Kaufmo
>>154347325The true unsung hero
Do none of you know that the entire series was planned out from the start? That has been made very clear, repeatedly.
>>154347343Bingo.
>>154347225I don't know, I think it humanizes trans people more. a man doesn't just suddenly become a woman over night. it can take years to realize, adjust, and finally accept yourself. Jax is a pretty accurate example of a man questioning and actively in denial. I still like him even if he is potentially a she, his character is still relatable as someone who's keeping a secret and feels like that secret could ruin him, and it's actually really funny to see people melting down over it as a kind of rorsarch test over their own gender insecurities
>>154347352It's tourists
>>154347291Wouldn’t that sort of confirm the whole theory that tadc was intended of getting a completely different ending but goose made it worse on purpose as a fuck you to the fandom
>>154347261Some people are mad, but the majority loved it and already transitioned to drawing Jax as a girl and getting mad when people don't use female pronouns.
>>154346863Season 2 when only people who want to come back can be brought back
>>154347341You’re way off base, TADC was very streamlined and focused. Not subverted expectations writing at all.
>>154347352>The series was always planned to shit the bedThat's even worse
Okay. Was Caine pulling in new people via the internet, just building a scan and dropping it in? Or is the headset brainscanner thing real? Why was there not a single mention of C&A in the finale?Genuinely, to have gone from the kino of episode 8 to this drivel is embarrassing.
>>154347352lmao, noMaybe goose had a few major plot points planned, like the big trans reveal at the end, but he 100% winged the rest.
>>154347352Tourists dont even know who kinger is
>>154347326I am so butthurt we didn't have more of this niggaHe's better than like 80% of the show's characters
>>154347363No only underage retards would think that’s true.>>154347352The entire series was scripted at once and only had minor revisions made as the episodes came out.
>>154347352iirc EP 6 was in pre production hell because Goose had to rewrite the whole script a few timesGoose even admitted at the beginning in one of his tumblr posts that he hadn't even thought that far ahead on how old the characters were when making the pilot.
I think Pomni should have abstracted along with Jax. Not because I dislike Pomni but because I think it would have been more narratively satisfying. I will not elaborate.
>>154347355No, it's because some of us know a little too much about trans stuff and have seen how it can destroy people and families. Five years ago I probably wouldn't have cared and would have thought 4chuds were just being stupid and hyperbolic, that there's nothing wrong with being trans. But I started noticing things, and couldn't stop, and eventually realized I was horribly wrong. Not everyone that hates tranny stuff is a chud or has internalized transphobia or whatever. Sometimes it really is as simple as seeing it for what it really is.
>>154347389Maybe it was a blessing in disguise, would you have wanted goose to give more attention to him after what he did with Jax?
>>154347352>>154347358>>154347384This was just Goose's early cope to make themselves seem more big brain than they really are
>>154347398That wouldn’t be satisfying at all unless you’re a shippertard.
>>154347378The vr headset really was a brain scanner. Everyone found it at some point and tried it on, leading to a brain scan file being created that Caine then turned into the cast. >Why was there not a single mention of C&A in the finale?Shitty writing.
>>154346734sweet can
>>154347352This shit had so many plot holes and inconsistencies, so many threads that just never lead to anything, characters that barely served any purpose at all. gooseworx was clearly just making shit up he went.
tony box made a better irredeemable piece of shit with vague trans allusionsapologize
>>154347395>how old the characters wereBecause that's an almost entirely irrelevant detail.
>>154347374>Not subverted expectations writing at all.Episode 7's entire existence is to "subvert expectations."
>>154347355I dunno, sounds pretty fuckin' gay, holmes
>>154347374so the whole episode where the characters become the opposite of their established character personalities (gun episode) isn't a knee-jerky subversion? caine not being the villain isn't a subversion? there were no subversionslop in episode 7 at all?yeah I don't fucking buy that, sorry
>>154347415Thanks Cinemasins, very cool.
>>154347277how does having a story with a bit of twist that isn't the same old shit bad? >unpredicted twistslop is usually a negativeThats if theres no bit of foreshadowing to it and it comes straight outta fucking nowhere with no logic added onto it or you have to build said logic from headcanons. You can have twists as long as they make sense, as long as it isn't the same overused shit as well.>writers are so scared of telling a coherent story because people will guess itWhich is just stupid writers trying to look smarter than they actually are, you pay for those types of things and more comes just like gravitating towards stuff like TADC that is just fully predictable in everything cause they are all overused tropes from years ago from other movies and series.>Embrace the fact that you know how stories work instead of asking for stories that don’t workDifference between working and then just being the same kind of stuff seen before.
>>154347417not if you want to pound and plunder it isn't
>>154347378>Was Caine pulling in new people via the internet, just building a scan and dropping it inImpossible. He never reaches the Internet until the finale. To find it he would have had to explore the void and he said he doesn't like spending time in there when he pulls Pomni out in episode one. Its literally just people being dropped in one at a time to the folder he has access to. The juice was still on in the building when Pomni went urban exploring (for whatever, unexplained reason everything was still set up to go the second someone puts it on) so she was just the most recent after a long long dry spell. We don't know when C&A shuttered or went into dormancy. It wasn't mentioned in the resolution so we just have to assume it was a freak accident that allows anyone in there at all.
>>154347363Yes only underage troons would think that's false
>>154346780The previous whiteboard is about to end!!Grab your screenshots now>https://r7.whiteboardfox.com/76884271-6634-6134
>>154347410Ok tourist
>the character goose voices randomly decides to kill himself for no reasonreally makes you think
>>154347398Her saving Jax would have been more satisfyingThe flashbang was dumb, them embracing, and Jax really letting everything out, his guilt, his isolation, his childhood abuse making him scared of opening up, how awful he feels about what he's done to the others. And as he does this his abstraction shrinks and goes down until he's back. This happens in front of the others who witness this absolute destruction of his masks. His willingness to admit fault and promise to change is rewarded with another chance. The message being that it's never too late, you can choose to change.
i'm not sure offscreening seemingly important character development was a pre planned thing. Making everyone act retarded was surely something not planned years ago right?
>>154347434new cope just dropped>pointing out that the show was poorly written and did not have a coherent narrative is nitpicking
>>154347460It's not even that, Bubble just disappears at the end and there's no real given explanation for it.Where the hell is my Bubblewaifu, Goosetranny?
>>154347410>themselvesHIMselfHim.Don't feed a troon's delusion
I like imagining Ragatha praising me when I jerk off to her
>>154347424The worst episode of the series for being a gimmick episode for sure, but it had more of a purpose than just dabbing on the people who didn’t know where the series was going (they were all very off base and their expectations were misplaced).>>154347432>the characters became the oppositeThat didn’t happen.>Caine not being a villianForeshadowed and set up heavily>Episode 7See aboveThe show was incredibly incredibly consistent with what it cared about.
Coming soon to a bedroom near you!
>>154347478I remember fanart about Bubble being the blue ai and being the final major antagonist. Where is it all now? Like tears in the rain...
Everyone talks about Jax but to me, Caine was the worst part of the finale.Literally castrating the character by going "oh wowzers I'm le good now".
>>154346886Cram ribbons in her until she can't stand anymore.
>>154347475Cope springs eternal
>>154347352>>154347392It really just proves Goose needed an editor and more episodes. By the time he was writing episode 5, he probably realized Jax has done nothing and he needed to quickly rush his arc while cutting stuff from the actual main plot to end the show at 9 episodes. The Jax trans hints were in episodes 5-8, but I'm yet to see anyone post anything from the first 4 episodes unless I missed something. That kind of proves Goose pivoted everything during episode 5.
>>154347488The thinking clown's fetish
>>154347475>poorly written because I didn’t learn what Caine’s tax policy is>incoherent because I’m retarded
>>154347460>luv me bubble >luv me moon>hate the troonsimple as
>>154347493Ringmaster Bubble. A brief and beautiful dream.
>>154347372I should have guessed
>>154347468This is what I dont like>Le heccin abstraction is supposed to be permanent deathThen how was Pomni able to enter his mind and talk to him and he dies anyway even after getting through to him? He even said he didn't want to go.
>>154347504Strawman alert. Your IP is now ignored.
>>154347504No one is talking about Caine's tax policy but you.
>>154347478>>154347493desu i figured it was supposed to be that bubble WAS the blue AI, he just got deleted alongside caine and then decided to just fuck off when caine tossed him into the void instead of coming back just to fuck with everyonehe'll be back in season 2 i'm sure
I still love Jax. Even if he gooned himself retarded wearing satin negligee and he’s chinese.
>>154347468I agree that this would have been more satisfying as well, but it would've been a little too saccharine and/or Disney-esque for my tastes.
>>154347487>more of a purposeThe major focal point was just fucking with lorefags. Why even bother wasting everyone's time with this? Its just a bad episode. Really indicative of the worst excesses of Goose's writing, outside of how half assed the show is writing wise in general.>>154347487>Foreshadowed and set up heavilyCaine was foreshadowed to be the major antagonist and the show actually delivered on that. So much so that people think it came outta nowhere that he survived. And look, even though Caine's portion of episode 9 is the best part. Its still really rushed and came out of nowhere.
>>154347441Good twists are good, a twist is not necessary to tell a good story. Predictability if you are experienced is an actual non-issue, and that complaint has led to so many thematically and narratively coherent stories being blown up for shock value.
Listen, all I'm saying is that Hornet Silksong wouldn't have let Jax die.
>>154346993If you've never met a guy like Jax, they have no reason or empathy. They just say random bullshit and hurt themselves and others as much as possible. They don't need kindness, they need medication.
>>154347533He is quite the scamp
I got baited into watching trannieslop
>>154347504NTA but would knowing their ages not be more than just nitpicking? Seems important, how about Ragatha not knowing Kinger was lucid in the dark? That right there becomes a very big plot hole when you remember>Kinger worked on all this shit>Learning that from him even gives away most of the plotthey were the only two there for who knows how long doing however many adventures caine had set up.
>>154347129I hate troons though. I'm just saying it how it is.
>>154347479
>>154347527>>154347531You don’t get specific, I don’t get specific.
>>154347470>Making everyone act retardedBelieve it or not, human beings are not completely rational and do not have the benefit of hindsight. This is not a valid criticism. You just have autism.
Ribbit being a guy and Jax misreading his friendliness for sexual attraction, making a move and>Wait, what, uh, Jax i'm not like that>uh w-what?>Look, it's cool if you're you know, gay, but i'm not>uh, no this was uh, a joke ah>dude, it's fine, im won't tell anyone>I uh...
>>154347549Just remember the good times before episode 9 and appreciate that you were part of them
>>154347553OkMy point still stands
>>154347487>>the characters became the opposite>That didn’t happen.in the episode where:- Jax is absolutely NOT the funny one- Ragatha is not the happy go-lucky one- Kinger isn't the insane one- Zooble isn't being grumpy one- Gangle is learning to love herself and be less sad- Pomni is no longer the scared, girlfailure character- Caine isn't as enthusiastic as he usually is, and is acting a bit more jadedThis is a strange way to concede, but I'll take it
>>154347549same, never again
>>154347010Based.
>>154346696I want crying because it was a sad ending I cried because I can’t believe u got bait and switched into liking tranny shit, I really thought 2 years ago goose was one of the good ones that won’t inject groin shit into his series, I feel like such a fucking idiot.
>>154347548He’s an amusing purple fellow
>>154347468100%It felt like the obvious solution, especially with everyone knowing they are digital copies. This way they could save the rest of the abstracted NPCs and have a proper community. Would have fit the whole "meaning in stagnant life" thing much better
>>154347538A good twist is ones that have been foreshadowed and aren't the most overused things in fiction. You could still possibly predict it, it depends, doesn't matter if you are or aren't an adult. Yet, here, it fails with the latter as they are very very overused things.
>>154347548When it comes to mischief, mirth and violence he's the champ
>>154347468I agree that the flashbang was dumb but Pomnis ass hug wasn't working. The rabbit was freaking the fuck out at the end and was going to abstract regardless. If anything the flashbangs were completely unnecessary.
>>154347549YupFirst and last time
>>154347578It's okay anon, you and me both. I'm not making that mistake ever again.
>>154347519>>154347534I didn't want Jax to be instantly redeemed or something, I just want him to have an opportunity, he was clearly ready to finally make that change and had the embarrassment, but didn't get the narrative reward for it.
>>154347578My tea's gone cold I'm wondering why I got out of bed at all
>>154347519Goose never said it was a permanent death she said it was permanent. They're clearly not dead.
>>154347572Wow it’s almost like Jax is wrong and people aren’t cartoon archetypes and all of these things set up about all of them ahead of episode six get to bubble to the surface as they make progress on all of their arcs wooooow
>>154347487>The worst episode of the seriesThat wasn't the finale though
>>154347532Lmao I forgot the final orb in the credits wasn't the blue ai. Why is this shows writing so vague and half assed lmao. Can't believe so much of the ending has to be clarified on social media, amazing writing, goose.
>>154347468
>>154347592God damn why do so many people think that Pomni's hug was working? Jax wasn't even really engaging with her, he was talking AT her.
>>154346696Why do people point out the maid dress in episode 5 as a hint of jax being trans when it was literally played out as a joke and nothing serious
>>154347587Things are used because they work. There’s only so many things that work in a story. Tropefaggotry is such a terrible way to criticize media.
who's the second blip out in the void on caine's wacky watch when it's supposed to only be pomni out there? (ep 1)
>>154347488hey at least Ragatha's involved now, that was a scary 36 hours when no one included her
>>154347493Genuinely would have been way better. That or Pomni being explicitly an AI made from the ground up, not based on anyone, to move in and take control over from Caine as the new ringmaster
>>154347569that's the problem, it ruins the rest of the show for me
>>154347563Goose should have just plagiarized American Beauty
>>154347600>They're clearly not dead.Abstraction is obviously a metaphor for suicide. They hold funerals for them in the circus. Goose even calls it suicide in the >trans Jax image.
>>154347468Nope, it would have made the ending bland, generic, and corny.
>>154347621No one knows what that is boomer
>>154347499kek
>>154347488>rag_8704You saved an image of Ragatha getting cucked to your Ragatha collection?
>>154347058With Caine becoming le good guy and throwing the blue ai away is it even possible for a sequel?I guess Blue ai could be the new villain or something.
In spite of it all, funnybunny
>>1543474885 minutes later...https://files.catbox.moe/aevoso.jpeg
>>154347488Ragatha’s definitely participating btw
>>154347578Cool nigga you can leave now
>>154347630>Nope, it would have made the ending bland, generic, and corny.just because you do something different doesn't make it good
>>154347628But they aren't LITERALLY dead. They're not dead the way our dead are. They're more like people with dementia or a TBI who have to go into a care facility.
>>154347511Truly, a better time. Hard to believe I cared as much as I did about this show just one episode ago
>>154347601Yeah, but the whole point is that it's a self-inserted meta commentary from Goose himself about how wrong Jax is; even though Goose absolutely gave all of them those character archetypes on purpose in the first place, to build a perfect group dynamic where they bounce off each other for our endless amusement. It's just a subversion that ends up saying almost nothing in the end in that episode, and if anything it hurts any pre-existing character development that came before EP 6.
>>154347597This was why I wanted a sequel series about loose plotholes and maybe something about the abstractions. Maybe a new person joining the Circus. I know an anon wrote a little fanfic about this earlier, but the thought of a literal child joining the Circus is legit nightmare fuel. Though I'm sure Ragatha would "adopt" him in a heartbeat.
>>154347613>Things are used because they workNo, not all the time, this is what generates the same similar story with the same similar shit that happened years ago till they switched to the other side of the extreme being unreasonable twists out of nowhere.>Tropefaggotry is such a terrible way to criticize mediaIt was always valid fucking criticism, cause when one persons sees another work do well they copy the same formula, then it repeats and it repeats until it becomes so fucking old.
>>154347646yuri...
>>154347571It doesn't though because I'm not part of any cult.
>>154347639I save literally any pic that I like that includes Ragatha to my collection. Plus, the same artist had a followup >>154347646There might be like 12 Ragatha pics in existence that I DON'T have saved somwhere in my folder
>>154347658Why is Eric Andre fluttering his jowls
>>154347653A tragic character arc existing is not ‘being different’.And it’s good for being the logical conclusion of his story without an asspull, and a more memorable and honest look at the type of person Jax is and where that leads if you act like Jax.You don’t have a magical jester who will fall from the sky and save you sorry.
>>154347664So you're one of THOSE uh?
>>154347088Considering shes limited to a single outfit and wears the same thing every day.Imagine her foot smell.
>>154347666>those tripsDammit.
>>154347666
>>154347681
>>154347511I miss it so much, please. It hurts.
>>154347657The characters are proven to be more three dimensional than their first impression right from the start. It’s not a subversion of expectations to have three dimensional characters just because it’s animated.
>>154347549I know the feeling, anon. I cared way to much, only to lose it all now.I think of all those fools who spent money on merch or, god forbid, got permanent tattoos of that rabbit only to have gotten the biggest rugpull of the millennium.
>>154347681Jax is from 2008-2013 he learned how to be trans from 4chan
the ending that we were robbed of
i think the eviroment of the circus is what enabled Jax to act how he acted towards the others, i'd even go as far as saying that it is the biggest factor as to why he did what he did.
>>154347666The point about those people thinking like that, you would know it too if you're obbsessed with them, the thing with the normies too. You being a troon or not does not factor in it
>>154347658>This was why I wanted a sequel series about loose plotholes and maybe something about the abstractions. Maybe a new person joining the Circus.The only way I can imagine a sequel at this point is somehow RLKinger having been keeping the juice flowing long after RLScratches death as a personal investigative project finding proof of them reaching the outside world and establishing a sort of connection. Meatspace can work with cyberspace to try and find a way to stabilize the abstractions with details about the actual people. The hardest one would be Scratch as hes actually dead and cannot be reached in any fashion.
>>154347630>Nope, it would have made the ending bland, generic, and corny.But we already got that anyways. All the arguments about how Jax 100% needed to die for the sake of the narrative got thrown out the window when Caine flew back to the circus and fixed everybody's problems for them.
>>154347630>>154347653Both of these things have been overdone to death>Is this person hurting and why he always acted like a dick and about to die? Redemption and saved!>Is this person hurting and why he always acted like a dick and about to die? Stuck with DeathInstead of doing either of those things, why not take out the "Possibly might die" part and you can continue to either build back up their redemption or punishment that doesn't have to be death?
>>154347642I love them
>>154347706>Jax can stay hard while looking at Pomni's bald head
>>154347658I wonder how Caine would cope with a literal child finding the circus to be extremely horrifying, even though the brain tumor in his head suggested he should bowdlerize the place for children in case one of the participants happened to be a child
>>154347706You were never getting it.
>>154347611His anger is expressed so femininely.
>>154347707100%, but never acknowledged outside of some merch descriptionsCaine should get MORE hate, but everyone gives him a pass on everthing
>>154347706>implying Ragatha wouldn't be in there as well
>>154347709NTA but you can pick up things through osmosis. You don't need to be a brony to know what clop is for instance
this show insists upon itself
>>154347706At least people are still making good art
>>154347578Same. If anything this makes me dislike tranny stuff more since this felt so two-faced
>>154347717Jax's punishment should have been having his entire fake personality exposed, everyone knowing exactly who he is
>>154347723I interpreted it as Caine wanted it family-friendly because that was the data he was trained on so everything else was weird and uncomfortable for him. But It could have been Azul too, idk
>>154347669>orgy with a troon
>>154347706
>>154347735dude shut up we got sex with ragatha due tomorrow
>>154347703ok there's no way you're not being facetious with that post
>>154347706Jax should be the one at the door knowing what we know now.
>>154347660It’s valid 10% of the time it’s actually said, and definitely not valid here, because the blend of everything is original enough. Again, predictable is a meme, a good story tends to have signposting where it’s going and people who have experience know what works and what doesn’t. I’ve been predicting most of what I watch for years.
>>154347701>NUH-UHH!!!!!!>proceeds to give no examples yet againYour concession technique is impressive. I've never seen anything like it before.
>>154347731>Jax is saved, but now mostly keeps to himself, on the edge of the group>not totally isolating, but not interacting much, still too embarrassed and ashamed>Pomni and Ragatha are both super horny, but despite their efforts, neither are lesbians>They invite Jax for a threesome
>>154347222When you delete a file on a computer it isnt actually deleted unless you save over its file location.No emptying the recycling bin doesnt delete the file it just hides it.Caine coming back makes sense, his redemption however does not.
>>154346696None of it matters because the humans are still gonna abstract, not out le sad but out of boredom. Censors aside, Caine's insane ideas kept things interesting, what are the human's idea of "Adventure"? A bar? Seriously, Zooble? At least Jax's blockbuster movie adventure was funny. Goddamned uncreative fleshbags.
I've seen multiple comics and fics that are better than the ending
>>154347770>Jax tells them he only likes to watch>they try to rape him so he uses conjuring to erase all the orifices on his body
>>154347771>No emptying the recycling bin doesnt delete the file it just hides it.so why does it change my storage size when I do empty the recycle bin? Idk too much about PCs so I'm genuinely curious
>>154347761I miss the old days
>>154347771That only applies if you delete a file on something like your File Explorer. If you do it via source code as Kinger accidentally did it's GONE gone.
I demand MORE Punk Ragatha
>>154347733And I don't know what any of this shit means either nor do I want to know, there's whole world outside of freak niche bubbles And I feel vindicated because NOBODY in these thread saw this shit coming either normies or not
>>154347779They go on adventures in the end credits, speedwatcher anon.
>>154347779The machine will break down long before that's a problem. ;)
>>154347791Me too but not fish hat
>>154347709I know because of the threads pointing it out.
>>154347752he's not wrong though
>>154347786Your PC is telling you that that space is available, the data is still there but it can be overwritten with new data.
Raggy is my kinda gal
https://youtu.be/bVa8jRiWVRQ?si=c8iYm90gqWlrWTnS&t=322Drawfriends. I want this with Caine, please.
>>154347784>Jax has barbie doll anatomy>he didn't learn to conjure yet>begs zooble for help>gives him a micropenis>pomni is satisfied but jax is not>begs zooble to fix it>gives him a vagina>zooble constantly promises to fix it, but gives jax different embarrassing genitals>until pomni, drunk on secret sauce, admits how much she loves Jax's sense of humor with his weird genitals keeping things interesting
Have any of you transitioned?
>>154347752I'm deadly serious, I'm afraid
anon what did you do to her...
>>154347706nah jax doesn't deserve shit for ruining the frog
Spanish dub made maid-Jax's voice so sassy-gay and made cartoon-Jax do a Bugs Bunny voice. Shame that in the English version all the Jaxes do basically the same voice. I think Mike does a pretty good job as Jax but clearly he doesn't have much range.
I think the ending would've been vastly improved by having everyone discover their real world selves (minus the gender shit) and having Jax abstract because he spent years convinced he was in hell for killing his mom only to realize he's in fact a cheap copy of someone that got their life back together.
I'm still just laughing at the Jax humiliation ritual and not taking things too seriously. Insane way to destroy a character.
>>154347325Kaufmo was the hero Jax needed. Ribbit was a groomer.>>154346158
>>154347761We used to be a country
>>154347837I'd like to ruin her
>>154347793>If you do it via source code as Kinger accidentally did it's GONE gone.Yes and no. I mean you can actually destroy the data with a shred command but it still follows the same rule that as long as the data isn't overwritten it can be recovered. Caine existing in the void unmoored is fine. He shouldn't just be able to swoop back to the circus until they tried to find a way to reconnect with him. Like if he was part of the ending montage. Kinger working away in a little hovel with his eyeball wife when he finally finds a way to locate him and restore his connection to the circus THEN they can make peace.
>>154347802>Only interesting one is the DnDI sleep.
>>154347766>definitely not valid hereIt 100% is when you use every single trope from popular works that are super well known and had tons of copies following that formula to the point it was hard to tell if this was actually a parody or it's just laziness.>a good story tends to have signposting where it’s goingOkay cool, but when it's overdone with so many other stories that have said the same thing, it's just lazy to do that.
>>154347827OOC. Jax would ask for a vagina and flick it to Pomni and Ragatha having stupid sauce sex.
>>154347779They'll probably be fine if they get internet access. They could get access to all sorts of entertainment and able to reach out to other people.
>>154347831No, I have no need to. And neither do you.
>>154347831I have already transitioned from straight to super straighthow much more transformation do you want outta me?
>>154347836I got depressed again after spending the afternoon loving her...
>>154347848It genuinely felt like Goose couldn't stand that pre-troon slef-insert was more likable than post-troon real goose
>>154347363Pomni is alot braver than Kobeni.They're only really similar in the pilot desu.
>>154347861I've been accused of being a buzzkill in the past, but...really? You don't want to do ANY of the things they did in the crepilogue?
Did femballsfoid anon ever return and find a suitable cope that her husbando is a troon cuckquean?
>>154347831Yes. I'm MtF and I feel a lot more comfortable with myself since I did it.
>>154347848Caine got the quickest character redemption arc too, meanwhile Goose blueballed Jaxfags into thinking he was going to get some redemption arc for 3 whole episodes. It was truly something alright.
>>154347831My best friend is trans but I am not
>>154347769I thought it was obvious to anyone who watched the show.>Jax: weird face at funeral, moping in car after spudsy’s, freaking out about the dress, hiding his fears and history in the bar scene>Ragatha: oddly too accepting of Pomni leaving her to her face, but it clearly bothers her, Jax interaction in episode 4 about not wanting to be hated even if she hates him, the sperg out during softball, the mommy backstory>Kinger: gets a whole episode where we find out he isn’t the insane one way before episode 6, set up in episode 2 with the bucket and Ragatha>Zooble: being tender and caring towards Gangle in episode 4, her therapy scene in episode 3>Gangle: Episode 4 shows the start of her growth with zooble and 5 progresses upon it in the picnic where Jax notices her being happy, and her anime request shows she isn’t just about being sad, which if followed in the bar scene where we hear about her creative ambitions>Caine: Caine’s character is explored in zooble therapy and steadily through the series with his rivalry with zooble>Pomni: Grew up in episode 2 (gummigoo + the funeral) and episode 3 (the kinger speech)Episode 6 was not a left turn at all, but a nice progression of everyone as established.
>>154347804Caine and Kinger should turn the circus into an online multiplayer game.
>>154347902Why did Caine even get a redemption?
>>154347468This. I expected Jax to abstract going in but that scene felt it was building to Pomni being the first to dig into an abstraction far enough to pull them out. Given what happens to people to touch one it made sense no one had tried it before, and Kinger had given up and stopped at just soothing his wife instead of trying to fix it.Fuck, ignoring the lyrics and focusing on the tone, even that song choice sounded like that's what it was building to. They really bungled everything to do with his abstraction.
>>154347902Jax abstracting was inevitable, but some that knew deluded themselves at some point into thinking Jax would go out like a hero instead of an hero and become eternal for dying. He became eternal for a reason they weren't expecting.
>>154347836I would never
Goose dead yet?
>>154347887>goose folds to the idea of the non-tranny version of him being likable, so instead he makes him worse than satan by the end of itamazing. he literally nuked the character even after he was revealed to be a tranny. he just hates himself and trannies by extension is the real takeaway from this.
>>154347862Good luck finding good stories that aren’t written with building blocks that work.
>>154347478It could make sense if bubble was the blue ai.>>154347493Bubble coming back as the blue ai is possibly the only path they have for a potential sequel.
>>154347917He miraculously developed a complete sense of empathy (after a dozen abstractions and a week of torture)
>>154347930He became the eternal cuck toilet kekold cuckquean acked crying dog tranny whose death improved everyone's lives immeasurably.
>>154347917He said sorry I dont like how its never addressed that he was directly responsible for at least 2 deaths of the casts friends and they forgive himPoor Gummigoo, dindu nuffin
>>154347941Yeah, basically.Incredible stuff.
>>154347941No one hates a tranny more than themselves
>>154347900... why are you pretending to be that guy
>>154347943>t. dan harmon
>>154347917Because he's sexy
Conjuring is a plothole larger than a fucking blackhole especially since they're all data and i don't understand why this isn't being discussed>They've all been somehow conjuring stuff subconsciously>Caine has not noticed nor gave a fuck about them doing that>They can make exits, walls, butterflies, fucking NPCs anything>Abstracts are somehow unable to be reversed>They can't just conjure something that would fix them since they have literally no limits on the ability>Caine could never figure out how to unabstract someone>Despite his ability to conjure without much effort of anything since he's a fucking AI and not the only AI eitherThey've basically been handed powers the likes of Gods as Data in the circus program, now should even know the internet is able to be used in the void so there is limitless info to be given and used with said powers.
>>154347630>nopeevery single time someone starts a sentence with that word, they are about to say the most obnoxious, stupid thing possibleyou have not bucked that trend
What is this? Some kinda aquarium/plant enclosure? I'm having a real hard time describing it in my story
Actually how *DID* Caine develop empathy?Whenever someone abstracted before he acted like it wasn't even a big deal, or even making cold remarks like what he said to Kinger after Queenie was tossed into the cellar. Oh and does anyone remember that demon in Mildenhall manner twisting the knife in Kinger about his wife being dead? What did Goose mean by this
>>154347966He’s a fuckhead but he’s more right about structure than he’s wrong. If your metric for good story is I need to be constantly surprised like a child experiencing the world for the first time then good luck you’re going to run out of plot types eventually.
You dont seriously want me to read that wall of text
>>154347478Because Bubble was always meant to be a subconscious expression of Caine voicing his doubts and deeper feelings. After he was shocked out of his tard rage Caine truly realized he was all alone and couldn't even project anymore. That's why Bubble was a blank sphere when he got zipped into the void.
I still don't get what exactly Caine did that made Scratch abstract.
>>154347941While the Jaxfag tears are funny, Gooseworx's self-hatred for his past self is sad. Before he trooned, he was an above decent looking guy.
>>154347578Can we all just admit that the tranny bashing is just gay panic?>The character I identified with isn't straight!? NO! NO! NO! I'M NOT GAY! I'M NOT GAY! I'M NOT GAY!
>>154347975Not an argument
>>154347831Nah but I've been thinking about it
>>154347468>He didnt say "I wanna be a girl" so he had to die.Its that simple, Jax cant accept himself because he's everything the author hated about HIMSELF pre trooning out.
>>154347987Hey, that's my picture, im glad someone thought it was funny enough to save
>>154347941>makes him worse than satanDid you even WATCH the show or are you just here to squeeze every bit of propagandization you can out of the finale?
>>154347972>since they have literally no limits on the ability>Caine could never figure out how to unabstract someoneSelf refuting argument.
>>154347972I've been discussing it. Like when Kinger uses the computer at the "I think I just killed Caine" moment, why doesn't he just conjure another computer?>>Caine could never figure out how to unabstract someoneI'm still iffy on if this is the case or not. He's able to immediately cure the "abstract effects" when someone touches an abstraction (even severe cases) and offers to "help" with Jax, but Pomni says no (?!). It's possible he never cured the abstractions before out of anger.>"Oh, you'd rather abstract than do my adventures? Well fuck you too, then!"
>>154347614i have to comment on this because i did an image search on this frame way back when i first watched epsiode 1 and i actually found the image they used for the wacky watch on a stock image website. its a stock image radar scanner thing. it doesnt mean anything
>>154348010I dont understand the mesning of any of the meds that are on it but the smugjax is pretty funny i cant lie
>>154347995And you never will, because Goose is a hack who has no answers for any of the interesting aspects of the show. We can devote half of the finale to Jax is a troon though
>>154347965When I see someone using a name with no tripcode I post using that name for a while>>154347972>They've all been somehow conjuring stuff subconsciouslyThe fact that it's not explained in detail isn't a plot hole. But if it's a metaphor for creativity, that's also often subconscious>Caine has not noticed nor gave a fuck about them doing thatTheir small, clumsy, and intermittent conjuring wouldn't present any threat whatsoever to his role>They can make exits, walls, butterflies, fucking NPCs anything>Abstracts are somehow unable to be reversed>They can't just conjure something that would fix them since they have literally no limits on the abilityBuilding a shed, painting a picture or cooking a meal is not the same thing as curing someone of cancer. This is not a plot hole.>Caine could never figure out how to unabstract someone>Despite his ability to conjure without much effort of anything since he's a fucking AI and not the only AI eitherCaine is only shown to be able to cure glitching, which is visually, thematically and etiologically different than abstraction. This is not a plot hole.
>>154347972To add on>Kinger was a developer of all this so he should STILL remember that this is possible despite his copied data self from before he turned lucid>Same with scratch>They would have eventually been able to find that same computer room to realize from the beginning they were brainscan data and not humanslike was there just no thought process from either of them??? They're suppose to be fucking smart and they have no reason to not remember.
i wanna drawfag but these threads have been such a drag /blog
>>154348025>and offers to "help" with JaxHe was referring to the makeshift tent containing Jax.
>>154347997No, because it was proven in a court gay panic isn't real
>>154348024How is that a self refuting argument? Read the literal next line>Despite his ability to conjure without much effort of anything since he's a fucking AIThats dismantling said argument
>>154348041Are you the anon who makes good art?
nothing beats a jet2 holiday and right now you can save £50 per person. that's £200 off for a family of 4.
>>154347985>If your metric for good story is I need to be constantly surprised like a child experiencing the world for the first time then good luck you’re going to run out of plot types eventually.KISHOTENKETSU (起承転結) BLAST ! ! ! ! !
>>154348052no, that's the anon who makes good art. i just draw.
>>154347984>how *DID* Caine develop empathy?>in the past, when someone had a mental breakdown and died he acted like it was no big deal>but after he had a mental breakdown and died it was like he suddenly got it
>>154347995I think it has to do with Caine's ability to edit the humans' minds and why he insists he can't do it (until it's obvious that he can). Scratch was one of the program's developers. Maybe he knew too much and was too powerful for Caine's liking (like he knew a way to shut Caine down or something) and so Caine edited Scratch's brain so he didn't remember anymore, but he fucked up and went too far and caused Scratch to abstract.
>>154347551Knowing their ages is just so that bsky weirdos dont scream at people for sexualising Pomni.
>>154348030those are hormones, I'm on HRT testosterone, i have CPTSD from years of abuse as a child and it results in low testosterone
I love Ragatha too much
I'd like to get gender-affirming surgery removing my natural mantits
>>154348064abstraction is ego death. that is far more than what caine can undo
whats jax playing?
>>154347995>guy has a brain tumor>guy is Caine’s biggest risk (just like he feared Kinger getting access to the console via Abel and in episode 8)>Caine messed with his mind files and accidentally abstracted himMore than enough information to come to your own conclusion on some lore that isn’t the focus of the show.>could have been Caine trying to help his injured mind, and making it worse>could have been Caine sabotaging his mind to save himself, and going too far>could have been Caine trying to enforce happiness, which explains why he doesn’t do it in current dayAll perfectly viable, and inessential to the story being told.
>>154347997Jax being trans isn't even the biggest problem. It's that it overtook and ruined the rest of the show when it didn't even start getting hinted at until episode 5. The Jax Show ruined TADC.
>>154347985Sometimes it's better to follow a recipe than it is to improvise, especially if you have no clue what you're doing, like goose
>>154347979Damn, no one wants to take a stab at this?
>>154348075go on a diet lol
>>154348068Oh i see, well i hope it helps you and you get better :)
>>154348077They can only do it themselves, and only with help from the others. This is something Caine can't help with, and the others don't know, until season 2
>>154348086That doesn't work
>>154348038>The fact that it's not explained in detail isn't a plot holeIt very much is as if you can't explain how the fuck characters are able to do something, it kinda just goes "What the fuck?">wouldn't present any threat whatsoever to his roleHe's an AI, he would still go "Huh? How the hell did they do that?" even if it's small it should still be questioned by the AI>not the same thing as curing someone of cancerRead the part of no limits on the ability and what they're basically doing is making a whole load of things, anything at all, it's basically the power of creation>Caine is only shown to be able to cure glitchingand he should be able to do more, againAIIs able to do anything without even much thought
>>154347997No because I'm a gay Jaxfag so that kinda fucks up your point
>>154348047not that it isn't real, just that it isn't a valid criminal defense.
>>154348016ragatha deserves to be showered with gifts
1 more loolipost before the thread ends
>>154347335are you telling me Goji is Caine?If so Im gonna hop right on to Jujutsu Kaisen
>>154348085looks like an aquarium to me
>>154348109>>154348109>>154348109
>>154348026it looks like there's a generic wacky watch yeah, but what's on the screen isn't part of that. it's still kinda weird they'd leave a detail like having two blips by accident tho
>>154348111That's what I wanna call it, but there's no fish and only plants. I wish we got a front shot of the staircase. Ah well, I'll just be vague about it.
>>154348103unabstracted Jax being incredibly nice to Ragatha to the point it makes her suspicious
They sure go quickly now, huh?
>>154347715Knowing they're not actually the real humans and now Caine having access to the internet couldnt they just plug their consciousness into robots and experience the real world?
>>154348121I just watched the clip, the way the light is shimmering and the plant is gently swaying definitely points to it being water
>>154348142Alright, works for me
>>154348050That self refutes even more.Hypothesis: The Abstracted should be able to be unabstracted through conjurationPremise 1: Conjuration can do anythingPremise 2: Caine can’t restore the abstractedPremise 3: Caine can exercise this tremendous power easily and is the best at conjurationSolution: Premise 2 and 3 refutes Premise 1, and therefore the hypothesis. Conjuration can’t do everything, and it can’t unabstract the abstracted.
>>154348099>It very much is as if you can't explain how the fuck characters are able to do something, it kinda just goes "What the fuck?"We can assume the program is written such that brain scans can conjure things inside it. There's no explanation required beyond Kinger saying "we can do this." That's all that's necessary for the plot.>He's an AI, he would still go "Huh? How the hell did they do that?" even if it's small it should still be questioned by the AIHow do you know Caine starts off unaware that they can conjure? No one ever conjures anything in front of him before the finale, so even if he weren't it wouldn't be a plot hole, but we don't have any reason to believe he doesn't already know, either.>Read the part of no limits on the ability and what they're basically doing is making a whole load of things, anything at all, it's basically the power of creationThe problem they're trying to solve is changing something that exists, not creating something new. Conjuring means bringing something into existence.>and he should be able to do more, again. AI is able to do anything without even much thoughtWhy? It establishes from episode 1 that there are limits to his ability (even if some of those limits later turn out to be fake). The fact that it doesn't give an explanation of why exactly he can't cure abstractions doesn't make it a plot hole. I'm not sure you know what a plot hole is. A plot hole would be if in episode 1, Caine said he can cure abstractions, then in the rest of the series he acts like he can't and this is never explained.
>>154348084Which is it? Because TADC is very straightforward and coherent.
>>154348169Ah, a sanepost, thanks
>>154347941Goose put all her sins into Jax and then slaughtered himThis is similar to the ritual of Kapparot of symbolically putting all your sins into a chicken and then slaughtering it to wash away your past
>>154348155>Conjuration can’t do everythingIt sure as hell can when you're making entire worlds for an adventure, NPCs that can begin to understand they are NPCs (Gummigoo) reverse data that is glitching out and connecting them to the internet? That gives even more stuff that can be done
>>154347786Why do you think deleted files are recoverable?Say you had something illegal on your computer and you deleted it, how do you think the police can recover it if it was actually gone?
>>154347468>The message being that it's never too late, you can choose to change.How?Jax died after doing all the damage and now gets to rest in peace and loved.It's like the ending of The Mayor of Canterbridge where a man ruins the lives of everyone he gets close to including his own wife and daughter and a Professor tells you "He got redeemed because he didn't want his name on his epitaph". Really, Bitch?
>>154348038Well im glad the MtF thing worked for you, if you are being serious
>>154348221That wasn't me.
>>154348200And yet it is explicitly demonstrated as not being able to unabstract. Therefore, it can’t do everything.
>>154348238You gotta stop with this name thing man its very confusing
>>154347352>ehhmmm it was actually planned out from the start>trust me guys! the creator of the work is a reliable unbiased narrator!>they definitely would be willing to tell the truth if their writing process was full of holes, scrapped concepts, and loose threads!i will never believe it when a writer claims this shit unless their work was a true objective 10/10 all time classic. 90% of the time a script is held together with glue and duct tape.
>>154348285Okay but the repeated statements from the production staff is more objective evidence than your feelings.
>>154348169>We can assumeWe have to be shown or even told that and there isn't any of that being done so that would be literal headcanon>There's no explanation required beyond Kinger saying "we can do this."There is when it's to explain fucking how?>How do you know Caine starts off unaware that they can conjure?You know what? I'll take that but it's the only thing i can think of when it isn't even mentioned from him whether in his office with bubble or with the group, and since he's programmed for them to have fun, would it not make sense to let them know they can do such things?>The problem they're trying to solve is changing something that existsAh, but see, caine can change peoples bodies, change their personality, it all comes right back to the same ability that they all have as well. The only thing they've done is create, which by the way i did originally say, create something to fix the abstractions too!>even if some of those limits later turn out to be fakeRight here you already helped me disprove the limits are fake from the get-go >Caine can't fuck with mindsHe actually can!>Caine can't do this or he can't do thatHe lied about so much and all of it was stuff he can do>why exactly he can't cure abstractions doesn't make it a plot holeHow does an AI that can do all of that, have his apparent programming of having fun (That apparently changed to learning) not ask the question of why he can't cure the abstractions?
>>154348242>Can fuck with minds>Change plenty of things>Create whateverIt can do whatever and anything at all
>>154348068I hope you have loving people around you now and you are good to them and treat them better then Jax would
>>154348347And YET specifically not the thing you want it to do for your argument.
>>154348197This also explains why the floor is a checkerboard its a freemasonic (judaism for goyim) ritual for Goose to transfer his sins to an animated Rabbit.
>>154348374My argument is that it makes no sense he can't you twat, if i give a character the power to do make, change, delete anything he wants, why is he unable to change this one thing? Gotta explain how
>>154348393>inb4 "gravity falls ruined a generation" post heresince when was explaining shit in your show a bad thing occasionally so people don't get too confused or lost a bad thing? it may be tedious to sit through, but it works.
>>154348393It makes sense he can't unabstract someone whos gone through ego death.It doesnt make sense that he can't just reload an earlier copy of the brainscan from the original file.He could have said "I can do that but they won't remember anything, it will be like their first day again" and then they could have decided it would be bad to do it.
>>154348393>gotta explain howNo you don’t, just that it can’t be done. Clearly the nature of abstraction is something that leaves the mind files irrecoverable. Corrupted data is something people intuitively understand, no technobabble necessary, especially because even bringing up the idea of unabstracting is a signpost that it might be possible (it isn’t).
>>154348463okay so then how was pomni able to unabstract jax for a good half hour on her own with no conjuring bullshit needed?
>>154348440Since when is overexplaining necessary to anyone besides people who are too young to fit the target demographic of tadc or people who stubbornly want to pretend not to understand (in this case, probably because they don’t want Jax to be dead).
>>154348477That was not a thing that happened. She entered his mindscape as he was breaking down, she did not “unabstract him”.
>>154348484>Since when is overexplainingab-bububub... what do you count as explaining vs. overexplaining?
>>154348440Never watched gravity falls so don't expect that from me, anyways!>since when was explaining shit in your show a bad thingIt isn't or at least showing it isn't either>>154348442>unabstract someone whos gone through ego deathThe thing is it's never really sure if it's death or not but that gets thrown out the window when they are all data, so they should have a literal restore point set, and it's not like memories can't be sent back into their heads either.>>154348463>No you don’t, just that it can’t be doneWhy can it not be done? You can't just leave it at that>Hey, why can't this certain thing happen?>uhhh, it just can't lolYou need a bit more than just that to convince me or anyone else>Clearly the nature of abstraction is something that leaves the mind files irrecoverableIf that was so, Pomni should not have been able to go through said mind of Jax, if they're corrupted or even irrecoverable (which is hard to believe when copies of them were made in episode 5 with a personality switch) then her jumping into his files shouldn't have been possible.
>>154348484Jax abstracting is fineretconning him on social media to be a troon isnt fine.Both Jax and Leeroy never trooned out as far as episode 9 is concerned btw
>>154348506>She entered his mindscape as he was breaking downSomething that she knew how to do all on her own, even though the abstracted having 'mindscapes' were never a thing established by any of the characters beforehand? I'm sorry, but it gets to a point in where you can only headcanon so much before you realize Goose was just an ameturish writer.
>>154348518Overexplaining is when a concept is elaborated upon far more than necessary. Concepts have different degrees of necessity depending on the story. This is somewhat forgiven for children’s media. And sometimes any explanation at all is overexplaining, such as midiclorians.
>>154348537>they should have a literal restore point setAgreed, but it could have been explained away as lets not do that because it wouldnt really be them anymore. Theres an actual good reason for why they shouldnt do it but its just never said because Goose is a hack.
>>154348562He's not asking about the definitions, he is asking what do YOU count as explaining and what is overexplaining
>>154348583>lets not do that because it wouldnt really be them anymoreAlright, lets go through this a bit, they are all Data from a brainscan alright? alrightThey have memories, feelings apparently bla bla yeah sure whateverBut at the end of it all they are still fucking Data, it fixes the crisis that is the abstractions and brings back the people that were turned into ones, the memories can be put right back from a simple grab from caine who had eyes, ears, everything all over the place because he is well the fucking owner. At that point, why would they not be the same person? They have the memories, they have the feelings, appearances, it's a restoration of them entirely.Not a copy + paste of said model as an NPC, just like clicking debug for a program, or as i said a restore point for the program that broke.
>>154347468>Pomni enters Jax's mind until she gets to the real Jax.>She offers her hand to lead him out the way she came.>He takes it and she starts walking. Jax takes one step but stops. The abstraction is holding on to him.>Pomni tries to pull him forward but to no avail.>But then Ragatha grabs his hand, giving her support.>Then Gangle, Kinger and Zooble with her daisy-chained arms leading out.>All of them manage to kind of turn Jax inside out.>Pomni goes to hug him, but he shoves her away.>His face still looks abstracted and getting worse.>Jax reabstracts, but not as jagged and untamed.>Pomni calls out to Jax and he responds in a way.>She hugs him again.Just something to give the idea that over time with a lot of work you can unabstract someone. Maybe during the credits so Pomni with Jax where his abstracted form has rabbit ears to show some progress.
>>154348537>You can't just leave it at thatWhy? You can’t grasp that the analogue for death is irreversible that’s not intuitive? You don’t understand the concept of irrecoverable files even with complete access and power over the system?>or anyone elseMost people aren’t wondering why the big shark in jaws is abnormally large, and those who are, are getting in the way of their own enjoyment. Spielberg did not need to add a scene explaining how a shark could have mutated or whatever. It just is.Abstraction being irreversible death is a premise level conceit of the show introduced in the first episode, and reinforced over and over and over in the story.>Pomni should not have been able to go through said mind of JaxWhy? Who said that wasn’t allowed? If Caine can interact with their minds why can’t Pomni? Who said abstraction is a process that is instant erasure and doggification? Why can’t the abandoned building of his mind be explored before it completely collapses? We already saw through Queenie that there’s a them in there for at least a bit. Isn’t that exactly what Pomni is attempting to replicate by shooting out the lights?>copiesNPCs based on them.>>154348549Agreed, I do not like Goose JK Rowling-ing their work. It’s unprofessional and disrespectful to the audience’s intelligence to overexplain their own series.>>154348559See above.
>>154348587What I posted that’s what “I” count as overexplaining.
>>154348669Another Gumigoo all my memories are fake scenario inbound.Problem is it genuinely wouldnt be them anymore.They're data yeah but they are experiencing new things and changing like people, in the story theyre very anthropomorphized in this way. It would be more like a clone of them (Yes I know they're already clones of the real people anyway, but like a clone of a clone.)
>>154348669This was touched on in episode 4. Gummitwo genuinely isn’t Gummigoo. If such a thing were possible (it’s suggested to not be), it wouldn’t be them. Queenie 2 might walk and talk and think like Queenie but she isn’t Queenie.
>>154348669A restore point isn’t the original in the same way that Pomni isn’t Abigail.
>>154348669For another computer analogy, if he has a restore point he could also make another version of any of the characters who are still alive by copying and pasting them (I dont mean the evil npcs but genuine 100% identical to the restore point)In that case which one would be the character who got cloned?Realistically any restored version isnt the same person.
>>154346696They should've just called the "The Amazing Derangement-mental-help Center," Because everyone felt like a Mental Patient on the verge of insanity and then wanting to take their life.and I'm looking at you, Jax. You Trans, always in denial, nihilistic, self centered, cowardly Motherfucker, you, And the ending was a very meh IMO.
>>154348717>Why?Because it's a big part of the story? It's suppose to be something you don't want to do but if you don't explain it then what the hell?>You can’t grasp that the analogue for death is irreversible that’s not intuitive?It's said to not even technically be death though, so it isn't even really that, it's left in the air>You don’t understand the concept of irrecoverable files even with complete access and power over the system?Irrecoverable files can always be recovered, that has never NOT been a thing, or are you the kind of person to believe that tossing shit in the recycle bin means it's all gone now>Comparing the giant shark or monsters that are specifically unknown origin because people don't have literal god powers to TADCTheres a very big difference here when the shark in JAWS is only just that, the people aren't able to create weapons to defend themselves from it, mess with it's mind. Those are just normal people again a giant fucking shark.>Why? Who said that wasn’t allowed?If the files are not able to be fucked with like you're saying, then she shouldn't have been able to do that. Yet she did, she got into said files when they're supposedly not able to be recovered or even open (Which again makes no sense even if they are irrecoverable, they can still be fucking recovered)
>>154348821Yeah I mean that’s what the show was about, broken people discovering the will to live and eventually thrive in their circumstances despite their shortcomings, besides Jax who is the negative example, the guy who refuses to participate until he is crushed.
>>154348744>>154348765>Another Gumigoo all my memories are fake scenario inboundWouldn't exactly be the same as he was a literal NPC Jax isn't a NPC, he is still data yes, but feelings and all that shit, still data though. His crisis would instead be more of he abstracted when his memories click back into place.>>154348776It certainly is, is the program you restored not the same program?
>>154348717See below:>>154348855
>>154348800Restoring them is what fixes said problems with the program if it has been fucked, same thine with debugging, it is still the same program after just not fucked anymore.
>>154348872If Caine copy pasted Pomnis brainscan file and named it Pomni2.filetype, then gave Pomni2 all of Pomnis memories. So they both exist at the same time, which one is Pomni?
>>154348902It would be like time travel.You go back and bring someone dead to the present but they're missing the info from past to present.If you gave them those memories back wouldnt they just abstract again, like if you rewrote the same buggy code.
>>154348920>>154348920They both are, i just copied a video named "BWC Porn" and made a duplicate also named "BWC Porn 2" It plays the same video and i'm still jerking off to it, so it's the same damn things pretty much, nothing has changed.
>>154348831>Because it's a big part of the story?A big part of the story that’s established early and clearly as exactly what it means.>it’s not technically deathNo but that’s the closest human analog with a funeral and everything, and the closest computational analog is a corrupted file, both things immediately understood by a viewer willing to participate with the show’s premise instead of trying to argue with it.>Irrecoverable files can always be recoveredNot a thing. And yeah I’m aware that recovery tools are better than most are aware of but it is possible to truly lose data.>There’s a big differenceThere really isn’t. You are introduced to an implausibly large shark, you can accept it because you’re watching an implausibly large shark movie, or you can guffaw at it by refusing to engage with the premise. In TADC you are introduced to a 90s full VR AGI isekai scenario where abstraction is the closest thing to death and it is consistently painted as something you can’t recover from. You can accept that or you can guffaw at it and refuse to engage with the premise. What you’re asking for is an above-and-beyond stunning surprise asspull that contradicts what Abstractions have always been known to be. If you had a problem with how abstractions work why did you watch more than one episode?>If the files are not able to be fucked withNot able to be restored is what I’m saying. Interacted with? Well that’s your surprise, they can be, for a brief time, set up and foreshadowed by Kinger’s Queenie story. That Pomni knew about, and acted upon.
>>154348967Not when Everyone knows what to expect and can stop the abstraction from happening
>>154348969>They both areHard disagree.
>>154348969The show disagrees with you philosophically. Pomni is an individual distinct from Abigail, Gummitwo is an individual distinct from Gummione. Their life has meaning beyond their false memories because they are living with perspective, and that perspective is the individual, is the person.
