Eyes on the prize.>>154348109
We got a good indie show before gta 6.
Apparently some troons hated the ending and Jax is trans reveal for being transphobic, is this true?
>Goose says that there won't be any romantic relationships by the end>Gangle and Zooble are shown fucking in the credits>Ragatha's VA claims Pomni and Ragatha also fucked>The tranny Jax art also mentions Pomni having sex with RibbitGoose, why'd you lie lol
>>154349857If I came back after a few years and found Ragatha looking like that, I'd kill her and then myself
>>154349857yeah, chimptopia
>>154349861Again, jax shows zero signs of being trans. Hell being a neet at 22 makes guys question their masculinity since they aren't providing.
>>154349868SOMEBODY STOP HER
>>154349836What if those were your balls
>>154349868>thing that actually happened in the show>joking comment on a piece of fanart>something a hypothetical jax imaginedanon, there are plenty of actual reasons to be upset with the show without you making up another one
>>154349886
The more I think about the 'isn't she lovely' montage the more mad I get because no Jax wasn't lovely, trooning out would've done fuck all by that point, and all Pomni did was cause Jax's last moments of sentience to be even more painful/he wasn't fully seen as the girl he felt he was considering nobody including Pomni respected that
>>154349886Oh nice try. I know this one. I WOULD be hungry.
>>154349868VAs shouldn't have a say in things
i like that there's this whole mural to the abstracted and then goose and co. just kind of forgot those other 4 people (the clam, the cyclops, the yellow clown, and the one with a bow) because they had no clue what to do with themthey may as well not even exist because i'm pretty sure nobody even brings them up, you could have nobody abstract from queenie to ribbit and nothing would change
>>154349885
>>154349857>she's drinking Clown Cola>she cracked Kaufmo
>>154349886Well then they'd be my balls!
>>154349900>when you prank your broThe rascal.
>>154349836Bowtie confirmed
>>154349898Goose never denied any of her posts and is a massive yurifag so he'll probably make it canon soon
How much time was there between episode 6 and 7?
>>154349917A normal amount. The only gaps with weird amounts were 1&2 (long) and 5&6 (short)
Just in case you didn't see this in the other thread, anon...>>154349845>What do you think is the deal with his little freakout about saying ALL OF THIS IS REAL?! In episode 8?>The one that that seems completely unprompted and fucking bizarre with how the flash backs show he was never in denial about things>Does it make any more sense when watching in quick succession?He's not talking about the Circus or them being humans or any of that, I'm 99.9% sure he's talking about Kinger's backstory of being a C&A employee and all that from the previous episode - He's freaking out because he's thinking "Oh God, did I ACTUALLY fuck up our one chance at getting out of here?"
I still laugh at the entire buildup to Jax's character being an official yabba pasta. I hope we get a Dragon Ball collab someday so Jax can be put in the turtle school uniform.
>>154349899I wonder if Kinger told them they were actually bad or somethingKinger: "Oh, don't paint that guy"Zooble: "uh, why?"Kinger: "He liked little boys."Zooble:
>>154349916praying he actually, truly, finally shuts up and fucks off before he can ruin Ragatha
>>154349894I was genuinely so baffled at that moment at what was I supposed to actually feel at this moment.I wonder what the fuck Goose wrote in the script as directions for this scene.
2018 artist alley
>>154349894Pomni was based for misgendering Jax before he died by calling him a man. I want to have sex with her even more now after that.
>>154349945It would save Ragatha by cucking Jax from the grave
>>154349900There is a very high probability some Jax fujo saw this and started self-inserting as Pomni here, but in a far more erotic manner.
>>154349944Ragtha:"but I like little boys."Kinger:"no. He liked them how the moon likes Caine."
>>154349961she already won, and anyway Jax would get off to that
>>154349959thanks i hate it
>>154349959Cute
I'm still not sure what this test meant with this
Ragatha likes to shower in gold from Pomni.
>>154349986That test is nonsense
>>154349968That doesn't sound right. He's trying to kill her and taking joy in it.
isn't she lovely?
>>154349986Giga trans.
>>154349996I wanna see how>shelooks in a Superman costume.
>>154349996I'm not mad at Jax being trans but I am mad at Goose making the wig the official design
>>154349961It would be a double cucking. Gangle is already getting her mask shattered by orgasmic bliss from Zooble.
>>154349996Wait, does that mean evil jax is straight?
>>154350016Yeah evil jax is straight. A straight up homo
Any Jaxfags left, or did you all die?
>>154350016Yes. He has 100 kids between Evil Pomni, Evil Ragatha, and Bazooble.
>>154350016He's either a cissoid or a gigapassoid pooner
>>154349968>fujoyou mean yume
>>154350024Can Bazooble consent?
Can someone draw this with caine?
>>154350016Jax is a straight male tranny, or "transbian"By that logic, Evil Jax is at least a little gay
>>154350023No more Jaxfags. You either cope with Evil Jax or we cyberbully you for five threads straight.
>>154349912
Oh Caine, if only you were right all along...
>>154350025Nigga I speak English. The freedom kind, not the king kind. Please, can you talk like an American.
>>154349972>Ragtha:"but I like little boys."We know.
>>154350031Evil Jax has to guide her, but is an excellent lover so she gets the ropes of it quickly.
>>154350036Just a little. He likes a pinky in his butthole when fucks evil ragatha.
>>154350043>Jax dies>THE GOOD ENDING
>>154350043Trust the plan
>>154350056Lmao I love that this became a meme
>>154350055>it does nothing. >they all have to now exist with a pedo
>>154350063Yes
>>154349944>>154349972Imagine if one of the C&A employees was wildly racist and Kingers marriage to a black woman (in the 90s no less) kept saying shit about it even in the Circus, and lead to Queenies abstraction. Plus potential trauma about never seeing her baby again.
>>154349972All of the female characters love little boys
In 2028, we will get End of Circus, which fixes all the writing problems with the ending. Then in the 2030s we'll get Rebuild of Circus, which will have one or two more episodes, ensuring every character gets ample development and all the loose ends are tied up.
>>154350048He's either biological man or FemaleToMale.
>>154349996>twink in a wigVS>>154350008>Actual tits and ass combined with fuck me eyesTrannies, this why you're LOSING
The ending made me want to hug Jax, fuck you
>>154350056
>>154350023I'm still here. The cool jaxfag.
>>154350092>t. Pomni
>>154350088>i want a bald twink You sure do anon
The ending made me want to hug Pomni while kicking Jax into the void for hurting her so he abstracts alone.
>>154350097Is this an actual crossover or just a meme
>MaleToFemale?>FemaleToMale?>That how cables have ALWAYS worked, you silly dumpling!
>>154350023I'm still lurking and downloading art.
>>154350082Goose really is a sick fuck.
>>154350097>Pomni, they shot me, give me HRT juice!
>>154350056Dafuq
>>154350016Evil Jax is trans and doesn't repress it, probably ftm for the meme
>>154350097No one cool likes Jax except a few porn artists, but they aren't cool for liking Jax.
>>1543501154trannies are insane
>>154350098I'm going to decapitate that fucker if he doesn't accept some love
>>154350107Does he know?
Jax who
>>154350118>No one cool likes JaxThen explain me.
I didn't see you all already migrated.>>154350129I'm upset about the teaser art for the finale. It was far more interesting than the episode.
>>154350115Ofcourse gangle would say that
>>154350096Jax would definitely show some board like /ic/ to gangle and a week later she starts spewing /pol/ jargon
>>154350168Don't forget that all the characters are just NPCs with integrated brain scans.
I miss the "Jax is hogging all the screentime because he is Scratch's son" theories, in hindsight I'd take them over "Jax is hogging all the screentime because he is trans"
>>154350151My main problem with the teaser art is how much more sense it would make if everyone explored Jax's "head" instead of just one character on the poster
Another beautiful morning to spend thinking about my beautiful wife>>154350168Caine discovering the internet and recreating kino games sounds so cool
Rewrite attempting to fix some of the problems with the ending:>More emphasis placed on how hard the gang tries to keep Jax on suicide watch. But they're demoralized, exhausted and distracted trying to rebuild, and Jax reaches such a dissociative, near-catatonic state that it only takes the smallest slip-up for him to have a chance to abstract. You can still have a smash cut to the abstraction as long as this is clear>They're shocked and don't know what to do. Ragatha says something about feeling guilty, even though some part of her is glad this happened, which just makes her feel more guilty. Maybe phrased in a way that calls back "I hate you but I don't want you to hate me" from episode 4. Gangle expresses her difficulty crying, and she doesn't know why (very similar to ep 9. It's psychologically realistic and I love that part)>The first order of business is just to get Jax contained and less dangerous. We have the same scene where Pomni shoots out the lights and enters him. She only penetrates shallowly into his psyche (maybe opens one door?) before it slams shut on her and she's kicked out. Jax is calm enough that they can corral him somewhere as a temporary pen, but it might not last.>They consider trying to bring Caine back. Not only to contain Jax somewhere safer, but because they can't conjure NPCs, their creations can't be as complex, and one or two of them realize they might actually miss the adventures. Kinger believes it would be possible because data on computers isn't wiped when it's deleted, it's just unassigned. Some voices are strongly against it (Zooble). They're skilled enough at conjuring now that they could make a computer for Kinger. He says that he could just talk to Caine without having to do commit to anything else. They collectively agree but are still hesitant
>>154350151Yeah the promotional art made it look like the finale was going to be some kind of adventure inside Jax or Jax was going to be the antagonist with a more traditional plot instead we essentially got a hour long epilogue, I didn't dislike the finale too much but it could have been better
>>154350192>Caine is in the void, deeply depressed. Not even excited to hear from the humans when Kinger's messages start popping up in front of him. He realizes he might have done something wrong but doesn't apologize because he's still resentful. Kinger is sentimental toward Caine and says the deletion was an accident and he's sorry. Caine wants to believe it but is so down he's skeptical and asks why they're talking to something they hate so much. Zooble says this is a waste of time. Kinger explains they don't hate him. They just wanted to stop him. But he's not sure it would be a good idea to bring Caine back unless he really makes an effort to understand them. Caine is furious and says in all caps that he tried, he always tried, and it was never enough. Kinger sighs and says goodbye for now>Caine wanders the void. Maybe intentionally paralleling Kinger wandering in episode 8. Looking through old files to pass the time he finds mentions of something called the internet which has limitless information on humans. He realizes where he might be able to access it, but if he fucks up he'll fall to the deep void and be lost forever. How this scene plays out would be very similar to him accessing the internet in the movie, but now it has actual stakes (him facing the danger shows his commitment to understanding humans)
https://x.com/i/status/1803999164868759596
>>154350201>Meanwhile, without being able to rely on Caine, there's still the issue of Jax. All it would take is a loud noise, bright light or structural failing in the pen for him to be rampaging again. Pomni brings up what happened when she went inside, how she could feel that he was still in there and made some progress but was kicked out. Kinger says he doesn't know whether abstractions could be recovered because only Scratch understood how the brain scans work and what abstraction would even mean. Pomni says she's sure there's some way to save him. But she's just one person and everyone here has know him longer. He had some sort of relationship with everyone else, so maybe if they all went in they could get past the defenses and find some way to recover his mind?>After some convincing they agree. Now check this out. Ragatha goes in the door where she abstracted, and deals with Jax's sadism and rage by allowing him to hurt her as much as he wants, but still being firm and honest about what she hates about him, until he realizes how pointless it is. Zooble goes in the door where they abstracted, and deals with Maid Jax's gender issues by relating/understanding. Gangle goes in the door where she abstracted, and tells Jax he can't keep putting on a comedy mask. This part is so perfect it seems like it's how the movie was supposed to go originally, idk
>>154350178I mean it's the same point of SOMA, if you copy the mind of a person inside a robot you're essentially creating a clone
>>154350206what could've been...
>>154350209>Also, Kinger tells Jax he's sorry for everything that happened, while also dismantling Jax's cope about archetypes once and for all>The deeper they go, the more painful it is for them to be there. It's the same kind of pain as touching a glitch. Everyone else feels like they've done all they can do and extricate, but Pomni is sure there's more and forges ahead against their pleas. She gets to the deepest part of him. Similar encounter to the movie's, but of course, there's no flashbang and Jax recovers.>Jax is mortified that this happened. He calls them all faggots, still crying. All of them are glitching, with Pomni glitching the most. Jax says "sorry" so quietly it's ambiguous who heard it. Ragatha touching Pomni and getting more glitched moment happens here because that was really good.>They're all suddenly fixed. Caine reveal. He says he learned a lot on the internet, including how to come back on his own. But he has a hat-in-hand mentality. Wants to show them something. We as the audience don't know about it until the slideshow presentation actually happens>He tells them to prove his good intention he's going to stop being the Circus' god. He's going to share his power with everyone else.>Ending proceeds similarly from there, although I'd also like something where people go to Gangle for help with adventures and designs because she's so artistic and creative. In the ending or the credits, we see Jax going from miserable to happy, joining in more and more. If we really want to hew as close to Goose's vision as possible, it would probably also imply he transitioned, although I'd prefer to just have something showing him getting more in touch with his feminine side
>>154350206Finally. Some real art of jax.
This is what you get for calling me a simp, Jax
>>154350190>Gets adopted as one of the GloinksBest ending
>>154350023Still here. Just sleepy.
crikey
>>154350261Looks like you posted that upside down by mistake. Don't worry, I got you covered mate
>>154350221I like this, I think the main issue with the finale was the lack of stakes and character agency, this version would mostly fix that and still kept the point of Jax and Caine, good
>>154350151I miss the fake spoilers, they even fit more with whatever the fuck gooseworx meant by "babby's first morally gray, no easy solutions ending".
>>154350221Notes- This is mainly meant to address the themes, pacing and character development, and not all of the unaddressed mysteries and Chekhov's guns. You could probably work some of those in somehow (Kinger talking more about Scratch's abstraction at the beginning as part of the brain scan reveal) but that's not what I was trying to do.- The other abstractions probably shouldn't be fixable since their story is about grief. What you could do, instead of fixing them, entering them and resolving their issues puts them completely to rest, gives an opportunity for goodbyes, and removes the abstraction from existence. And Jax only managed to remain because he was so fresh, and even then he might have been changed somehow by it.- This doesn't directly address the complaint that there wasn't enough reaction to them being brainscans. I think that's overblown, but also somewhat valid (Goose tried to address it with Ragatha having always suspected it so it wasn't as much of a shock to everyone). If you were going to make it a bigger issue, I'd have Zooble pissed off about it and Gangle start detaching due to it. More reason for Zooble conflict in bringing Caine ack and more for Jax and gangle to talk about in the abstraction. They need to remember what they said in episode 7 about being real. Should effectively be resolved BEFORE Caine does the slideshow so it's their effort and not deus ex machina.
>>154350249That feel when the Gloink Queen turns out to be one of the best moms around, and a total antithesis to Ragatha's own mother.>Looks aggressive and intimmidating>Turns out to be surprisingly doting and loving to her childrenKind of reminds me of that old woman from the second half of that 'Night of the Hunter' movie.
>>154350271No seriously, what was this even about?
How about an adventure where we rub fresh warm cum on Ragatha's body and tell her it's sunscreen
>>154350269>Jax dying was stakes!there are more stakes than death, and it would be more interesting
>>154350221I speedread but Jax's scene looked way less impactful this way, I would keep it the same way it is in the finale but with the other characters, otherwise good rewrite fixed some of the issues
>>154350287Forget the cum. Let's just rub some sunscreen on Ragatha's body.
>>154350285>morally greyWildly split takes on Jax>no easy solutionsJax gets trannycuckdog’d
>>154350271a storyline where the characters are directly faced with the fact that their only options are the decaying Circus or deleting themselves? BORING, let's show Jax having goofy "what-if" scenarios on some of the characters abstracting and vaguely confirm he's trans. The brain scan thing? Pfft, who cares.
>>154350312Yeah nigga
>>154350303As long as she's completely naked
*gets grabbed by caine*
I’m not into trannies
There are no easy solutions...Unless you troon out-Goose the Worx, June 2026
>>154350328Legend says Ragatha's bloomers were sopping wet during that scene
Why didn't Jax ever talk to Kinger
the flashback scene that should have happened
>>154349944Kinger: "Get out the marble, he deserves a statue"
>>154350287Please don't do that. It would probably be very erotic in that moment, but she'd be super gross and need a thorough wash afterwards or she'd stink and be full of weird stains
Jax was innocent,another victim of poor writing
>>154350285>no easy solutionRibbit talks to ragatha and doesn't get one shot by a 22 or younger boy.
>>154350342BUNNYDOLL!?!?IN THIS ECONOMY????
>>154350357who is to say they didnt talk
>>154350336WHO KEEPS MAKING TRANNY ART OF JAX!
>>154350285>miserable>experimental>"fuck it we ball"I'm not entirely sure what was experimental about it.Miserable might be a good descriptor. I'm not sure why the show slowly morphed from excitement to... everyone's miserable.>morally gay no easy solutionsPen him in a mini circus seemed pretty easy.Goodbye blue, we don't even know who you are, seemed so easy Caine didn't even need to explain why it was even a choice.
>>154350363Who is to say Ragatha didn't convince Ribbit to kill herself?
>>154350023Funnybunny is dead to me. I now ship Pomni with Anakin Skywalker
>>154350352Bark bark
>>154350340The only interaction between two male characters longer than 30 seconds that we got in the show was the dinner date between Jax and Caine, and that ended with a vore joke.
*steps on you*
>>154350283>- The other abstractions probably shouldn't be fixable since their story is about griefBut them being fixable means Caine being confronted with the reality that he made them suffer out of his selfish desire to get them out of sight and out of mind rather than let anyone try to help them.
>>154350380Is this a fetish?
>Caine, the red dot, is the first program; he's shitty and not very good at his job>"Abel," the blue dot, is the second program; he's the superior perfected version of the concept>Caine breaks free of his containment and absorbs Abel, corrupting him/adding his power to Caine/whatever>Later, in the Void, Caine, the shitty broken program, fixes everything by getting rid of Abel, the good/perfected program???
>>154350295That's one criticism I anticipated. I actually think a problem with the end of Jax in the finale is that it's not impactful /enough/. First in the plot sense: Pomni going into Jax ultimately doesn't seem to change anything about anyone's situation except that she now knows him better, and there's not really anything she can do with that knowledge. Dramatically, it sort of turns on a dime with the infamous Isn't She Lovely montage that and "amigos" that already makes the situation seem optimistic somehow. It's just odd. The only real impact is Gangle finally crying.I believe if you had Jax coming back after the Isn't She Lovely edit it would hit ten times harder. Way more catharsis and meaning. And I know not everybody will agree with that but it's how I feel.
>>154350379>Caine forcing the tranny into a date with him with the explicit instructions of getting into his mouthWhat did Goose mean by this
>>154350285More like babys first cannot write an ending.
If your fix it fic involves Jax coming back I just won’t entertain it.
>>154350387Here's what goose's intentions were according to Caine's VA
I'm pretty sure ragatha likes to watch as well
>>154350400>they get to rape the npcs forever What did goose mean by this?
>>154350410She likes to watch Pomni munch her red carpet for sure
>>154350400>The Fudge: *unfathomably vile fate jelqer things*https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWyM9NUAoVQ
>>154350410You're just self-inserting as Ragatha you cuck faggot
>>154350408rare fish hat
Would the show be better if pomni was a guy?
The king takes his crown
>>154350402>having two AIs in the same head added to his instabilityOkay, sure, that makes sense... But Caine was still the fuck-up that didn't work right. So why was getting rid of Abel a good thing? Unabsorbing Abel just makes Caine a slightly more stable fuck-up. Shouldn't Caine unabsorbing Abel have been a sort of "Please clean up my mess now, little brother" moment?
>>154350410Any in show evidence? She gets jealous of Pomni flirting and seems overall clingy. Kinger had to convince her to give her even a little rope to have a healthier relationship.
>>154350433Don't think too hard about it, goose sure didn't
>>154350430No. The show would've been better if they had focused more on mystery shit and not interpersonal therapy sessions. Simple as.
>>154350445REEEEEEE LOREFAG LOREFAG LOREFAG REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
i miss OCfags
>>154350451I miss before the show was shit
>>154350451After that blue sky post?? I doubt any of them will return KEK
>>154350445Filtered
>>154350451Why don't (You) become one?
>>154350451Good riddance honestly. I’m here to talk about the show and the characters not your donut steels.
Naked Ragatha
Why couldn't they just give him a pity gf like Finn if they wanted Pomni to be a lesbian instead of killing Jax and then cucking him from under the grave by making him into a tranny
>>154350430Would have ended the same way.https://files.catbox.moe/rarwhb.jpeg
>>154350459Everyone was
>>154350473Goose's humiliation fetish come on anon keep up with the times
>>154350458qrd?
>>154349836The show where WAH! MY EMOTIONS!BABY BITCH ASS BOO HOO!GOO GOO GAGA WAH WAH!and then all the dead characters become zoo attractionsabstraction attractions in a computer hell forever and ever yay hot chocolate and baseball
>>154350221Another potential criticism is, if Caine and Jax are both redeemed, you no longer have a contrast. A Goofus and a Gallant. My response is first, that contrast is theoretical and not actually communicated that well in ep 9; and second, you don't need that type of contrast, because their issues are already very different. Caine is prevented from connecting by his (fragile) ego, single-mindedness, and obliviousness. Jax is held back by fear. Fear of betrayal. Fear of exposure. Fear of his own identity. Caine's one-word solution is humility, and Jax's one-word solution is courage. So they're different struggles and I don't think there would be anything redundant about both of them achieving what they need to let everyone else help them.
>>154350451What happened? I was gone for a few days.
>>154350336I'm full of estrogen, it's not a cure for being an asshole. WHy would goose spread misinformation like this?
I wrote 6k words of incredibly autistic TADC shit tonight, I feel accomplishedI'm still not done fuck it's 3am guess I'll finish it tomorrow
>>154350508Congratulations
>>154350487I love emotionally charged stories when there's proper gravitas, this half-assed shit where the characters might as well have a BE SAD AND SUPER TRAGIC NOW and BE HAPPY NOW MY PROBLEMS ARE CURED pisses me off
>>154350508blessed. im actually going back into the archives and finding my autism ragatha greentexts
>>154350506That's canon
>>154350506See, still a shit head prick. Fuck this bitch. Abstract already.
I wish Ragatha had an ENF scene
>>154350523Doily ass doll
Not a big fan of full hair on anthros, took my swing at Jax.
>>154350506This is disgusting...
>>154350528b-based ENF chad
We always talk about Ragathugs, but what about THUGatha?
>>154350488So like if Zooble is to show how people can over come their dysphoria, why is it that Caine didn't ever think that Jax needed to over come their dysphoria? Being a pink bunny is easier than having mix and match parts.
>>154350536The politically correct term is Blagatha
>>154350536More like BLACKED ragatha.
>>154350543>varix
>>154350536Blackgatha used to get posted more but the trend wore off
i need 100 ccs of Evil Ragatha, STAT!
>>154349868>incel thinks sex = romanceL O L
