Was he really all that bad
>>154360071It's crazy how people act like he was a rapist or a sexual molester based on almost literally nothing. Like if he actually did something illegal there would've been charges.
>>154360272Be Male and White is a crime to this people.
>>154360071You have to understand that this happened when the #metoo shit was in full force, so even rumors about unwanted touching was enough to kick him out.
>>154360071>>154361330>>154360272https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lF25ZldvdL0&t=1886sApparently it was pretty bad. He's certainly not a rapist. At worst, a molestor, and at best, a horndog who couldn't keep it in his pants and stay professional.I think what got him fired was what ultimately gets anyone fired in the entertainment industry when it comes to sexually inappropriate behavior:>didn't get their work done on time>consider their role in the machine way more valuable and important than in actuality>pisses off corporate/exec types (biting the hand that feeds you)>shits where they eat>doesn't actually DO a lot of work (the worst crime a director/showrunner can do)
>>154361640There are various cases where it turned out that allegations ended up being false or were taken widely out of context:>Mike Z (smear campaign meant to oust him out of his own company)>Vic Mignogna (allegations erupting into the spotlight thanks to being confused with an unrelated person and ultimately stemming from sleeping around with his co-workers while cheating on his wife and also pissing off FMA fujos)>Aziz Ansari >Danny Elfman>ProJared>Chuggaconroy>Pyrocynical >Boyinaband>CallMeCarsonI don't think people really understand that there's a big difference between predators like Spacey, Diddy, and Weinstein vs unprofessional horndogs like Warren Ellis and Vic Mignogna vs creepy lazyasses like Beau DeMayo and John Lasseter.The Weinsteins of the industry should go to jail. The Vics and Ellises should get fucking therapy and/or get demoted. The DeMayos and Lasseters should have been fired yesterday.
>>154361935>Vic MignognaVic didn't do himself any favors with that ill-fated lawsuit, and especially his choice of lawyer.He should have just stuck with his gut instinct of slinking into obscurity for a few months while he "prayed on things" or whatever he said initially.
>>154362019Hindsight is 20/20, as they say. Vic should have just kept quiet, got a better lawyer involved, and collected receipts like a sane person.It is still pretty weird how people that are anti-Vic or pro-Vic REALLY don't want to accept the fact that Vic isn't a predator but he's also not squeaky-clean either. It doesn't matter what kind of industry you work in, you don't fucking make a habit out of cheating with your wife and sleeping with long-term co-workers (specifically Monica, why the fuck did you stick your dick in crazy, Vic) or manhandling fans/employees because "muh traumatic childhood".
>>154361935>Vic MignognaI thought he was innocent?
He's still getting work at that one no name studio at Paramount. He's either innocent or well connected with the Ellisons.
>>154361935You forget Aaron Ehasz, the head writer of Avatar: The Last Airbender and Co-Creator of Dragon Prince who suffered from beibg metooed by his PR female staff and and as a result Dragon Prince suffered from having it's writing accomodate the metoo accusations.It's why I'm instantly skeptical of any "allegations", especially if they treat every accuser as if they were all-powerful sex predator like Weinstein is without hard proof.
>>154361935There's definitely more nuance than most people are willing to give in conversation. But I can't really blame anyone for wanting to just avoid their work. Maybe that's unfair, but it is what it is.
>>154365279In one account, a former editor at Riot Games recounted how he disrupted her job when he joined the company. In addition to treating her like his own personal assistant, he is accused of transitioning her editorial duties to a group and shut down her ideas.>What's more, she said he would bring his children to work and leave them with female production staff members without asking.> "It was just so much shutting women down, not taking women seriously, not listening to women, firing a woman and then shit talking her," she wrote.>"The general feeling was always... this is Aaron's company, Aaron's show, Aaron's stories to tell (yes, even the ones about women, POC, and lgbtq+ characters), and if you didn't agree you were constantly at risk," she added.NETFLIX FIRE THIS DISGUSTING MANhttps://www.cbr.com/avatar-last-airbender-aaron-ehasz-accused-misogynistic-behavior/Where's the hard facts? The accuser even mentions "worse things" he'd done to her but keeps quiet because she gives the excuse that afraid of him.
Reminder #MeToo was a mistakehttps://youtu.be/Hi785SuoWkM?t=1604
>>154360071It is what it is.If you notice the entertainment industry was always full of weirdos and pedophiles alongside people with families, who else want to draw and write children's media their entire life? Lasseter did his job until he shitted outside the toilet bowl like an idiot.
I used to think Lasseter must have gotten a raw deal and was misunderstood but then I saw footage of him being a clearly drunk, belligerent jackass at some press event and it made me think>ohhh he definitely drank on the job and got way too handsy at Pixar’s parties
>>154365570This is exactly why Zoomers refuse to drink alcohol.
>>154365597Lol at you americano, you can't take away my beers.
>>154365279I knew I was forgetting someone. Honestly, I feel like Aaron's ACTUAL fuckup was lying about the status of the show, Dragon Prince underperforming (not good news for a big budget series that was marketing the fact that it had ex-ATLA alumni in charge of it), and totally dismissing female staff (he should have had his wife handle that sort of stuff). Netflix clearly used the accusations as an excuse to have more control over production.People tend to neglect that corporations used MeToo as an excuse to push more women into the workplace in order to collect Blackrock money but ALSO to take advantage of how women tend to be less resistant towards meddling from the c-suite and higher ups.That's the real shame about Aaron losing control over his show. But I blame him for being way too ambitious and I blame Netflix for pumping over $100 million into production.
>>154365597Okay? Should I be worried that there are less drunk jackasses out there groping their coworkers or obliterating people on the road?
>>154361935Same with Turkey Tom. Honestly. I don't give rape accusations credibility unless they go to the police first, otherwise it's attention whoring on social media, and that's far more common than actual rape. Same with most accusations. If they were as grave as people claimed, they would seek the courts, but they don't.
>>154365348The trick towards working with women (who have shit ideas and who you don't want having control over projects) is that you need to make them FEEL like they're being listened to, steer them into the direction of YOUR preferred ideas (either by being gentle or firm), give them creative control (over stuff that isn't important), or tell them "no" but make sure to give them some sort of consolation or support in the future. That's what JQ Quintel did when more female staff started working on Regular Show.I get the impression that Aaron lucked out when he married Walsh and he genuinely doesn't know how to behave around midwit normie liberal women like the other staff he had assigned to him, especially since he had pretty much only worked on ATLA which was pretty male-dominant in terms of staff last time I checked.
>>154365663If anything it seems like e-celebs like Tom or Pyro or Jared tend to have a problem of hooking up with crazy ladies. Same thing happened with Ellis and Vic!>lol, I'll just fool around with clearly deranged women, this will never come back to haunt me whatsoever>(it came back to haunt him)The only reason why Alex Hirsch didn't get in trouble for sleeping around is because he stuck to casual sex with college students (and gave them pointers/advice for the industry) and cosplayers (I remember his fixation on a Wendy cosplayer) rather than shit where he ate (well, outside of dating Dana) or go after underage fans...and he's also a pretty friendly and stable guy compared to most people I listed.You'd be surprised how you can be immune to being cancelled if you don't stick your dick in crazy or kids, avoid shitting where you eat, get your shit done on time, and are friendly to co-workers and your bosses (pic related)
