I applaud Warren Ellis for creating pic related, it serves as an excellent litmus test to detect pretentious midwits.
>>154371976Stuff like this being so critically acclaimed really goes to show why comics lost so hard to manga
>>154371976Tell me how to take the test.
>>154371993It just detects how much faith you have in the present
>>154371976it's a good comic but Spider is a mary sue at times /thread
>>154371993Easy peasy. For starters, read picrel and tell me if, taking everything you know about history and politics of the last several decades, you truly believe this is the average politician's mindset.
>>154372071>Patrick Stewart is a Transmet fan, could have even played Spider Jerusalem>Warren approached Patrick to write this likely all aware of all the above, Patrick complied but also not really, the most Spider thing he could do.Strange world we live in
>>154372124Everyone loves him because he is a newspaper columnist, is fiction dude grow up
>>154372124>it's a good comicA retard.>/threadAnd a tourist. Piss off.
>>154372141No. The average politicians mindset is 'I want the power and I will say anything to get it.'They are happy if 95% of the country doesn't eat but their rich friends get to buy a new mansion.The beast is downright inspiring compared to modern politicians, because unlike them, he is actually trying to do the bare minimum.
>>154371990If you're talking about the art, I agree. It's not very good.If you're talking about the writing, it's not much of a difference.
>>154371976Congrats OP, admitting it is the first step.
>>154372141I think the guys is absolutely right, I know power structures are not machines of limitless potential like everyone wants to meme about, the species has to keep itself alive before providing for the common good.It's also really grim, because this is not what every day discourse is about, we humans love to make up a good enemy to simplify a complex and cold world, a narrative to keep ourselves sleep every night.
>>154372637 (me)But still, the average politician is as delusional as the masses, still ends up fucking up everything for "social and economic progress", unlike the fictional villain they're incompetent.
>>154372141Uh.... never believe what Politician days cause they have ever incentive to make big promises they can't keep?
>>154371976Case in point, here's a pretentious midwit: >>154371990
>>154371976if you actually had anything to say about this comic you would not go about it in this unbearably smug way. you are much worse than whatever pretentious midwit strawman you were thinking about.
>>154373228that's just a weeb, they aren't smart enough to be midwits
>>154372349C. Not a midwit but you might require some remedial courses.>>154372637F, confirmed midwit. See me after class.>>154372910D. Midwit.>>154373386Butthurt midwit.
>a lone journalist can bring down a powerful, corrupt and ruthless politician just by telling people the truth about himDoes anyone actually believe this? Has anyone ever?
>>154374154I'm not sure I'd nail Nixon with those exact terms, but technically he was brought down because of journalists telling people the truth, but they had insider help and the country was already poised for it.
>>154374250Tricky Ricky was on his way out anyway, the whole Watergate dog and pony show was a smokescreen for the real game.
>>154373690Midwit spotted
>>154374250Watergate doesn't bother me. Does your conscience bother you? (Tell me true!)
Are we really pretending to like this series for any other reason than Spider being an IRL troll? The main plotline was non-sense at best and completely unrealistic self-contradicting trash at worst, but it was an entertaining read.
>>154374931Who's "we"? How did you ever get that impression from anything you've read in this thread?
>>154371976>>154372071>>154372141>"midwit filter">romanticizes journalism >pretends mega cities of the future would still have an even white/black ratioIt's hilarious to think this was serious critique in 1997 when you've lived through every media producing nothing but 10 reasons white people are evil and should all die clickbait.
>>154376048It was a different time
>>154376048I know, and that's why it's a perfect midwit filter, believing journo rats give a shit about the truth is peak midwittery.
>>154372097Very little
>>154376048technically offtopic but it's a shame Y.Aoi got work done, she was super cute
Can we finally admit he was a hack fraud retard>lifelong drunk who failed out of the navy>stole his literary style from Joyce and Fitzgerald >larped as a 1% biker and got beat for it>had a one hit wonder in fear and loathing >childish drug fascination made everything published after 1973 complete dogshit >thinks Vegas is this wonderland when it's one of the bigger shitholes next to California >biggest fans are all eccentric faggots like Johnny Depp and Joe Rogan>obsessed with guns but only ever killed himself with themHe pioneered boomer revisionism and is the reason people still look at the 60s with rose tinted glasses, like it was this exciting time when in reality it was prolonged cultural misery that made the 70s a low point. All his fans are huge gaywads too
>>154371976Meh
>>154376370
>>154372141If it reflects the will of his masters, then yes.The Beast was always meant to symbolize and reflect the 'old school' bread and circuses brinkmanship politicians of the Cold War Arc. It's the Smiler that represented what was coming in at the time.It seems you've completely misread the series.
>>154377887Midwit.
>>154374154I mean, a large portion of the book is that people either misunderstand or outright ignore the truth that he is telling. And, honestly, it's kind of impressive how hard Ennis hit what kind of bread and circuses shit the 24 hour news cycle and social media would turn into.
>>154371976>midwitsAnd I applaud the first moron the say this word as a way to detect massive fucking retards.
>>154376370>thinks Vegas is this wonderland when it's one of the bigger shitholes next to CaliforniaThis alone tells me you didn't actually read anything he ever wrote. Did you only watch Fear and Loathing via YouTube shorts? What's it like to be so simple you cannot tie your own shoes?
>>154378423Most people don't realize Ellis is a futurist writer.
>>154372141Fuck no. I can't know for sure but I suspect that the average mindset is a completely warped and detached sense of reality. They definitely lack any kind of empathy or morality. Hell, the only way they can feel any joy is probably by watching videos of their own people being raped and murdered. They are no different from actual demons. And they need to be put down.
>>154371976It's true, being a contrarian is the classic sign of the midwit.
>>154379000Finally, the first A+ in this entire thread so far. Enjoy your digits, you earned 'em.
>>154378434Midwit spotted
>>154372141As someone who hasn't read the comics and just from the context from this single page, it isn't necessarily wrong in the sense a political leader wants to keep the status quo, even if his honesty makes him seem more benevolent.
>>154374250>>154374736lmao I knew /co/ was retarded but damn
>>154376370This brain-damaged boomer was famous in the circles he hung out in for filming gay pedo snuff films, there's a good reason why he got pushed so hard as a (((counter culture rebel))) by the post JFK assassination establishment.Hindsight is 20/20, unfortunately. So good that he finally killed himself like he did.
>>154379695>This brain-damaged boomer was famous in the circles he hung out in for filming gay pedo snuff filmsCan't put such a juicy dish on the table and not add sauce, anon.
>>154376218Am hopelessly hopeful
>>154379845There is no sauce, just like there's no sauce on any of the famous pedos who Jeffery Epstein filmed sexually assaulting toddlers so they could be blackmailed later, right? Just because the United States government is actively protecting them on behalf of Israel doesn't mean anything! Fake news!lol but seriously though, in Fear and Loathing he talks about "where Adrenochrome comes from" indicating it can only be derived from torturing someone to death and taking it directly from their opened skull as soon as they die. Then he produces a small bottle of it that he and "Dr. Gonzo" (a super shady character himself involved in organized crime, just look up his bio and death) proceed to drop like acid and go insane.Keep in mind this was in a book documenting a trip to Las Vegas written in the 1970s long before the internet existed.
>>154379695This is literally mcmartin school tier schizo bullshit.>>154380446>Write a spoof of sensationalized drug-scare nonsense in your novel>50 years later, idiots think it's somehow true.
>>154372141>truly believe this is the average politician's mindset.Absolutely not
>>154380483>pedo's aren't everywhere in the entertainment industryso how's that sub 70 IQ treating you these days dawg? or should i ask how the weather is in tel aviv today instead?
>>154381133>Pedophiles exist>That means this author I know nothing about must be one!Brain worms.
>>154381415>*pedo defense force ACTIVATED*>"i'll have you know that i'm not just stupid, i'm also a jew!"lol go suck off a freshly circumcised baby moshe, you have no power here
>>154381517I have a few jobs for you:>>154370907>>154364807>>154374229
>>154382376That's a lot of pedos
>>154382376>>154382428Forgot these:>>154373712>>154274338
>>154373690I scored the highest of the mid wits so there is hope for me yet!
>>154382428
>>154382695There is always hope anon.
>>154371976Wonder what a modern version would be like. The OG didn't touch on social media and the wider internet.>>154372151He's like a prototype e-celeb.
>>154374154In the 90s people still believed in the power of the media and to be fair it did hold much more power back then compared to today when people just buy into whatever they find on social media
>>154376370He was an interesting writer who produced a lot of still iconic material, was pretty successful and is still fondly remembered today despite having been dead for over two decades now so no, he was not a hack or a fraud
>>154384180>the media was more powerful back thenBullshit. People legitimately believed a Nobel Award-winning medication was "le horse dewormer paste" because the talking heads said so.
>>154384252Ivermectin is a dewormer and it isn’t an off label miracle cure nor a prophylactic to covid despite how much right wing media keeps saying it is. And some people were literally buying the animal kind because they couldn’t get any of the ones in human doses. Same way some morons drank chloroquine phosphates after Trump said it could be used as a treatment
>>154372141The Beast is a Richard Nixon figure, a corrupt, paranoid leader who convinced himself it was okay to break the law to maintain his grip on power because the alternative would be the downfall of the country. Nixon was brought down by investigative journalists like Spider exposing his crimes. The Smiler is a Tony Blair, a self-serving psychopath with the facade of a charming, decent person, but who was utterly in bed with the media. The point is Ellis wishing modern journalists would have the balls to do to leaders like Blair in the then-present what they did to Nixon in the past.
>>154384264>CovidAnother example. It was always the regular-ass common cold, but the talking heads manipulated data and relentlessly fearmongered until people went insane with panic. Not to mention all the rules were blatantly bullshit but people went along with them due to media browbeating and peer pressure.
>>154384284*seasonal flu, not common cold
>>154384284>It was always the regular-ass common coldApart from the fact it was killing even healthy people in far bigger numbers than your seasonal cold ever does, so no, it was not just a “normal flu”. Normal flu treatments also didn’t work on it hence more deaths and complications when doctors were left operating in the dark without anyone having knowledge what worked, why and being able to verify it via studies. It was also way more infectious than a normal cold, so when people normally go to work even when they’ve got the flu that was a ticking time bomb because countries like Italy in the early days already showed us how quickly you run into a problem when you are out of empty hospital beds and morgue space because modern day hospitals don’t just have endless resources and space waiting to house patients because for decades they’ve been told to operate as efficiently as possible in terms of space usage to cur costs. So bed numbers are actually quite small and they as practice need to send people home as fast as possible, instead of letting them recuperate fully at the hospital. If you had a brain you would thus understand this turns into a disaster when suddenly there is seemingly endless influx of sick patients needing treatment and quarantine conditions but your normal cures don’t work, you got no place to put everyone in and now even the medical staff is getting sick and need to quarantine.If you just pretended nothing was different that would have been a disaster to the economy, disaster to the country infrastructure and disaster to everyone’s general health when too many people at the same time would need and seek medical attention at the same time and would keep infecting more people because nobody was following even basic guidelines or masks.
>>154384278>Nixon was brought down by investigative journalists like Spider exposing his crimes.Self-aggrandizing journo bullshit. See: >>154374736
>>154374736Ah so second term president have a get out of jail free card simply because they’re not going to be able to run again?
>>154384385Kind of but not really.
>>154384358>Apart from the fact it was killing even healthy people in far bigger numbers than your seasonal cold ever doesNumbers were heavily inflated and the test couldn't even differentiate between covid and the flu. You got played.
>>154378460He wears that vegas hat in like every other interview
>>154372141Pre-9/11 yes post 9/11 no power power thefft everything on credit never pay it back export everything import filthy third worlders the middle class is the enemy every first world country must become a third world nation with only the 1% in control Cyberpunk hellscapes are slowly becoming a reality. Megacorp completely owning countries are just a decade or two away.
>>154384358>in far bigger numbersMaybe you should check your data, regular ass flu was killing people every year, you just didn't cared about it because the media wasn't manipulating you into thinking a virus that only killed 0.2% of the people that had it. Retard.
>>154385155>regular ass flu was killing people every yearYeah and Covid was killing like five times the average flu season deaths and now it wasn’t just killing the elderly with compromised immune systems but also fairly healthy and young people, you stupid fuck. I can’t believe you people to this day just regurgitate the same bs and keep ignoring all the facts. No fucking wonder the military now has dumbfucks falling sick in droves because they got vaccine mandates and only 40% of rank and file decided to take it and now Hegseth is frantically scrambling to have the flu vaccine be mandatory again. It also explains how stupid the entire country has become when we’ve literally allowed measles to spread so much that the country is about to lose its elimination status for the first time in several decades because you allowed an anti-vaxx loon runn the health and human services department.
>>154385150>mega Corp already owning countries That's already here
>>154385150>what is Nestle>what is Bayer>what is the Federal Reserve>what is United Fruit CompanyRetard.
>>154385382Nice cope
>>154379000>elites are... le evil!!Holy reddit, evil comes from economic structures, not cartoon villains. Read Marx
>>154385924Shut up, projecting tard
>>154384264>>154384358>>154385382
>>154372141whao reading this was fucking dull and boring
>>154372141I think the world would probably be a better place if politicians cared about at least 51% of the population they're supposed to be serving
>>154386039I was vaxxed two times and am still alive
>>154385746>what is the East India Trading Company
>>154376048Truly you are the victim. Now kill yourself.
>>154386391I was using relatively recent examples for easier recognition, but you are indeed correct.
>>154384278Sniler=Blair barely lasted six issues as Ellis realized American fans thought Smiler=Bush 2 and went outvof his way to flip the entire enries sideways to accomodate this misinterpretation in order to cash in on the huge money being made in the US during the 2000 election frenzy
>>154376370>larped as a 1% biker and got beat for itMore like called them out on their BS and got beaten for it and later got set up in an interview. People loved to glaze the HA as some noble road men. Even today with Sons of Anarch series.https://youtu.be/ccyu44rsaZo?is=KKgpqf5fbKLedYPd
>>154387104How was the Smiler anything like Dubya? His public persona was a bumbling dumbass, not a polished charmer. I guess you could argue the whole doing exceptionally shady shit behind the curtain after 9/11, but at the time I think people were levelling that more at Cheney than Bush.
