Comic companies have been "writing for the trade" for a quarter century now. If the end goal is to have a book, why not just publish the story as a book? Do we even need the monthly floppy comic book format in the year of our lord Twenty-and-Twenty-six?Think about it, the floppies made sense from 1938 to 1999 when comics were available at newsstands and spinner racks were everywhere. But now that they are mainly only available at specialty stores the format doesn't need to follow any sort of standard.And we're still getting the same 22 page stories we got in 1938 only now we're paying 500% more. At least back then a floppy contained a full story, now we're getting a sixth of one spread out over half a year. If they want to make them Graphic novels, just print them as graphic novels and be done with it.
I actually read the floppies, books are just shelf dressing.There weren't 22-pages stories in the 30s, 40s, 50 or 60s, and a lot of those books featured different characters.
>implying anyone buys American comics at all anymore lol that ship sailed decades ago, manga ate it alive. there's literally nothing left now except the inevitable demise of the entire American comics industry once Warner Bros and Disney decide to dump DC and Marvel once they've sucked the last drop of blood from both
>>154376545>thing will replace thingAs delusional as thinking less capeshit would mean more of other genres. Truth is people are reading less and less and at a rather alarming rate, at that. And if you think manga is faring any better, you're in for a rough wake up call.The world is not reading any more.
>>154375552I have never bought a floppy for ongoings.
Why would a company hold back on releasing material as a cheaper purchase a customer can test out compared to a higher priced compilation they have to wait longer for, and be more risk averse about buying? Manga releases in chapters before releasing the tankobon. These companies, even if they release in graphic novel format get the work in intervals usually, so why sit on those pages? Even if floppies cease we’d still likely see digital versions.
>>154375552They still rate a lot of comics by floppy orders, and we have seen some series cut short because they didn't make enough numbers by issue 5 or 9 or whatever.
>>154376609 >>thing will replace thingthing has long since replaced thing, retard>And if you think manga is faring any better, you're in for a rough wake up calllol it's too bad your dumb ass didn't look up the sales numbers before you posted all that stupidity. manga sales dwarf American comic sales in the United States (never mind worldwide) and it's not even close
>>154375552I like my floppies. Fuck you.
>>154375552I've never bought a floppie made after like 2002. There's just no point
>>154378300Based, same. But 1994.
>>154378270gay
>>154378098>b-but manga is doing better than comics!So? That's like when Marvel kept bragging they were doing better than DC a decade ago. It's a "technically true" thing that shills/drones use to dodge that there are serious internal problems.
>>154375552>they want to make them Graphic novels, just print them as graphic novels and be done with itDo you have any idea how long it takes for graphic novels to come out?
>>154379574>manga is doing better than comicsnta but Manga isn't just doing better than comics, it's doing better than comics have ever done in their entire history. Marvel and DC don't even exist as far as Manga's success is concerned, they're like two small pebbles compared to Manga's mountain. Manga doesn't have any "internal problems" as you put it, you're just making yourself sound like a ridiculous sperg who has no real rebuttal saying that in response to the valid point he made about Manga almost completely replacing Marvel and DC in the funny book marketplace.
>>154379971I wish comics were as good as or better than manga.
You can abandon your floppies at my house
>>154381196You joke but Boomers and Gen X are about to start doing exactly this in huge numbers, there are probably millions of valueless modern age comics sitting in attics, garages, etc. that will flood the market in the next 10 to 20 years as Boomers die off and Gen X downsizes as they head into retirement.
>>154375552but I like floppies.sure, I prefer reading physical collected editions and even more reading single issues on digital.but floppies are still neat.
I like trades but I would never read anything in public.
>>154381703>reading single issues on digitallmao living in the stone age mr. boomerall comics are free now:https://readallcomics.com/add an ad blocker and you're golden pony boy
>>154381731Aw, why not?
>>154382989simple anxiety. I want to be aware of my surroundings in public.
>>154375552Nuh uh. The second we go full TPB every writer and editor will go all filler no thriller off brand strength.The usual fuckwits going on about manga seldom hit on the point that what keeps even the most meandering slice of life manga from being too decompressed is the fact weekly updates to the story have to retain some interest to a degree, they can't just rely on the notion people will blind buy the tankobon before it's developed a name for itself.That is not the case unfortunately with the Big Two. Hell, chances are if they just started releasing X-Men, Batman and Spider-Man collections fans of those would in fact take leaps of faith from FOMO and the next thing you know the writing credit disappears until you get word the publishers have AI acting as writer and editor.
>>154383798I'm not contradicting you, but... how does the publication of Floppies prevent this scenario from occurring?
>>154383938It doesn't, I'll confess it's a stalling tactic at best to force the creative teams to make some effort to earn monthly rent, but any other big plan first requires identifying and ousting the worst rot in editorial and writing so they don't coast on good impression from a paint job while the rust and corrosion beneath from their preferred nontent, kink, soap box and obsession scrawl lingers.I'm not so far gone I think a complete crash is needed, but in hindsight things like boosts from the good reception of films, shows and best seller runs kept the ship from sinking but also kept the rats from drowning.Rob Liefeld was recently talking about layoffs snowballing for editors no longer pulling their weighthttps://youtu.be/JhIL_7M8NGA?si=ykehs4xu7RLvcVv5&t=700And Dan Slotth said Marvel was moving towards cancelling a writer's run at five issues unless they sold enough to reasonably continue, so in a copeful future enough of that happening might lead to a lump look over and purge.
>>154381092Comics absolutely can be better than manga and it is to our eternal shame and detriment that it is not. Its not so much "comics" that can't compete with manga as much as it's the nig two can't. And this is from a variety of reasons, cheifmost because making uour product solely around a superhero lense has a natural ceiling that it hit a long time ago, while manga has no such restriction and can make their stories about any subject they can dream of so it naturally has a far broader appeal than superhero stories.Of course there's still the rest of the Direct Market who are free to do their own thing, but since the direct market is so insular they mostly try to appeal to the same audience as the big two, ultimately resulting in the same types of stories.
>>154375552I like the floppies because I can buy 5-7 books through direct sales and get a nice little bundle of chapters to read once a month. If they were to replace floppies I'd want them to do a cheaper digest format with trade collections like in Japan.
>>154381808Floppies being a glorified speculator market is the only reason you get all these free comic books, if floppies went away most of those books would too.
>>154375552Floppies fucking suck as a format, and only exist because of 60+-year-old literal boomers who have irrational attachment to them from the time they were 8. I can't even remember the last time you could get a full story in a single issue of anything. It must be over 30 years ago.Even if you can't upgrade to TPB only/tankoubon only meta, you should at the very VERY least make every single issue double-sided one. 40 pages is in the low end of Euro albums, and enough to squeeze in a beginning, middle and ending without turning every panel into a 500 word essay of exposition like in the old times.
>>154378300What if there is a visual gimmick that is easiest to understand as a physical media (with floppies the easiest to handle it).
>>154381808>mr. boomer>you're golden pony boyanon who are you calling a boomer here?
>>154375552Speculators are like half the demographic keeping the lights on in this industry. And having something to discuss month to month is something to do. Builds hype for the trades if the arc turns out good.
>>154384851>I can't even remember the last time you could get a full story in a single issue of anything. It must be over 30 years ago.One shots and annuals that tell a one-and-done story can and still do happen.
I like floppies for ergonomic and print formatting reasons. Collected editions can't open flat and the page curve distorts art and causes gutter/margin losses at the inner edges of the book. This is especially bad for two page splashes. Floppies are also significantly lighter and thus more comfortable to hold while reading.
