One guy carried the second season and finale, and we only see him as a centaur in the finale for like 15 minutes max.Oh and Centaurworld thread. Post Wammawinks and Glendales.
>>154392779Man, I loved this show Maybe it's been long enough that I should rewatch it
>>154392873Punish the little kleptoslut with breeding.
>>154392873>>154392958Glendale was such a great character. Who knew a kleptomaniac with a gravely voice would be so beloved?
>>154392958God, she'd be absolutely perfect if her voice didn't make me want to violently blow out my own eardrums.
Is it just me, or does the series feel like they made a lot of changes during the production of season 2 that left quite a number of story arcs incomplete? Like Horse says she heard the Nowhere King lullaby, but it's never sung in the human world until the woman bashes the elktaur's skull in. There's other weird stuff going on like why the key was made in the first place and the woman not confronting the general about the elk until the elk had already fully turned into the Nowhere King.
>>154393834When Centaurworld first premiered, some anon on here tried to rewrite the lyrics to the Nowhere King lullaby to a happier one based on the theory the Nowhere King used to be someone loved. The Nowhere King was loved, but the only other version of the song was like you mention sung by the woman just before she kills the elktaur.
>>154393378it annoyed me at first too but i really came around on it
>>154393378>>154395124Mega Dong has a beautiful singing voice though.
>>154393834> Horse says she heard the Nowhere King lullabyThe flowers sang it to her a couple episodes into s1. Or am I misunderstanding you?>>154395955yeah i liked that too
>>154395970Horse says "I think I know this song" during the first time we hear the song in episode 4. It's at the very end of the episode and it's when the flora is singing it.
>>154396136Ah, my mistake.
>>154392958Is this supposed to be kinky or a reference?
>>154396142That's okay. It's just one of the many mysteries that remain.
>>154392779Everytime I see this guy, or rather, any amorphous black blob that has skeletons it reminds me of Aldrich from Dark Souls 3
Why does the General look more related to Rider than to himself as the elktaur? Mega Dong said Rider emulates the General but she doesn't meet the guy until the beginning of season 2?
>>154393834>Like Horse says she heard the Nowhere King lullaby, but it's never sung in the human world until the woman bashes the elktaur's skull inIt's probably echoed across the Nowhere King's army. Like if you hear that song you know the horde is coming.
frankly, overly distressed wammawink carried the show for me>her whole "before you go" song>glendale absolutely demolishing her about the magazines>her being pissed off the birdtaurs consider her the worst character>her trying to backup horse in her hate for becky but also trying to make the whole thing about heralso, anyone got any news about bad fairies? Mega Dong is supposed to be working on it
Sex with Horse
>>154398489anon no! that's how it started
>>154398446>also, anyone got any news about bad fairies? Mega Dong is supposed to be working on itIt recently premiered at Annecy and is slated for May 21st 2027.
>>154398271Pic for reference.
>>154401033If I can remember the damn pic.
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>>154392779I gotta say I really don't like how Centaurworld vilified a guy for self-hate and his appearance. Self-hate isn't something that can be actively overcome nor will self-hate ever result in a worlds war. It's like telling people suffering from depression to be happy- that's not how it works. The most self-hate will do is fracture relationships with your loved ones. Then you have the fact the elktaur was the only centaur drawn in a humanworld style. Is it wrong to be a serious person or like humans? I'm sorry, the optics are just bad on this like making the darkest lion in The Lion King be the villain. The elktaur really wasn't a bad guy. Grumpy, maybe, but not evil.
>>154402461its a nf cartoon, writing is never their strong suitthough i will say that accepting oneself is an important part of being a healthy person and he sure wasnt doing that. combine that with magic n shit and you get a villain. i dont think its that weird. i agree he's not really evil, just your classic tragic, misunderstood freak.
>>154400412hell yeah
>>154402553Nf? As in Netflix?I wish I could rewrite the second season because the show really faltered after season one. Do you think the show should have had more time in the human world? Do you think Rider needed more development?It's too tragic for a comedy imo. It really looks like it's singling out one person for being different and conformity is the ideal.
>>154402751>Netflix?yeah>Do you think the show should have had more time in the human world? Do you think Rider needed more development?i think a little more breathing room all around wouldve improved the show but its a little late for that>too tragic for a comedyyeah i can understand that perspective. was just right for me though>singling out one person for being different and conformity is the ideal.nobody in the show says or does anything i can recall to imply that. its just the plot. dude brought it all on himself, nobody persecuted himposting the cycloneataur again because that thing is badassgives me shivers just remembering it
>>154392779It's pretty much universally agreed upon Rider should not have survived the battle, right? Seems like the majority of viewers including myself would have preferred if Horse and Rider combined into a centaur.
>>154403540I don't think they should have fused but Rider dying would've been ballsy
>>154403489The taurnado was a great design. Great song too, but there were lots of great songs.There was an implied bias against centaurs from humans & even then we only saw how racist the people were in Centaurworld itself and not on the other side of the rift. I feel like the elktaur was a product of his environment and wouldn't hate himself so much if there wasn't so much prejudice. The guy felt humans were superior yet he never put other centaurs down.
>>154402461>Self-hate isn't something that can be actively overcomeFalse, get therapy. Or you can do like I did and sort it out yourself, if you've got decades to blow on the project.
>>154404089I've tried therapy. It's just being ordered around by a stranger. Nothing cathartic for me.Did anyone else think Horse's backstory magic was bullshit? While I will admit it was a clever storytelling device, it was too overpowering. Really Horse shouldn't have had any magic beyond the silly party tricks. She should be an ordinary horse with an extraordinary love for her rider.
>>154393834My memories are vague at this pointm only gace it a single marathon watch years ago, but I distinctly recall the earlier parts of the show depicting TNK as some ancient, Sauron-esque unknowable eldritch entity, only to then just arbitrarily decide later on that he's been a thing for a couple decades at most. Very jarring.
>>154405776It's likely your therapist sucked, it's more common than you think.And yeah, I agree about horse. I'm also on the fence about her whole transformation arc. On the one hand I wanted her to change back; on the other hand, it's kind of a subtle criticism of modern trans-culture, that if you have body dysmorphia, you might just need to learn to be happy with what you are rather than drive yourself crazy seeking some magical fix to give you the body you want. Which I think is a healthy way of thinking.
>>154406085The timeline is fucked up. The war took place during Wammawink's lifetime yet both worlds managed to erect skyscraper stone edifices around both portals? Nobody has noticed the General hasn't aged or their princess is missing? It's possible they dropped some ideas to accommodate the Nowhere King. I honestly believe it would be much better if Rider was the daughter of the General and the woman. It's such a prevalent idea in fan works and even Mega Dong had to clarify Rider and the General were not related. The war would have been a decade or so old, the timeline would be manageable. Most importantly, it makes us invested in these characters. Of course, it would have a ripple effect on what would need changed, but it would really only apply to the second season which frankly is worth sacrificing.
>>154406090>>154406566Yeah, I agree it's a great message needed today. All the elktaur/transgender person does is take an internal problem and turn it into an external problem which you have little control of.I thought the ultimate message of the show would be about maintaining balance. Very Avatar, I know. You have to embrace both your rational, objective side as a human and your emotional, subjective side associated with animals. We never got Centaurworld boot camp given how the war was the very next day after the hootenanny. Even worse, we never saw a centaur become more human like the elktaur in response to the war. Waterbaby was the perfect candidate for it. What missed opportunities.
>>154406090I wonder if ChatGPT or Gemini would make better therapists nowadays.
>>154407979>Ask a professional bullshit machine to hallucinate itself a medical degreeThat's retarded, but at the same time, roughly 80% of mental health improvment is on you, the doctor can only ever provide the other 20%. An LLM would make a fine substitute for a bad therapist, but no substitute at all for a good one. And you can swap out a bad therapist for a friend or anyone who will listen and talk to you.>have a friendI know, I know, impossible ask for Anonymous.
>>154406090>>154407979>>154408166
>>154408166i'm perfectly fine myself, but what even is the difference between a friend that's not a retard and a good therapist ?
>>154410287The friend won't charge you and won't try to gaslight you into chopping your dick off
>>154403540I don't see the point in killing her off if you're going the centaur route. I always felt that worked more like a version of Steven Universe's fusion, where they're so close they end up becoming one via magic. Using Rider's corpse for that would've just been an awful way to end things.
>>154412245Well, assuming she gets fatally injured and Horse begs to give her life to save Rider's, that's when they are joined into a centaur, Horserider.
>>154393834They had to rush through season 2 because they thought they were getting more seasons until netflix pulled the rug from under them, so they just tried to fit in what they could and wrap it all up in a single 2nd season. PRetty sad really
>>154413917Yeah, this is the first time I've been told this. That is depressing but definitely on-brand for Netflix.
>>154398921That's how what started?
>>154414807GR15
>>154413917>>154414423I would like a source because I'm getting conflicting information. Pic is from the story writing process. It shows 20 episodes. I'm reading the series was planned as a two-act musical with Mega Dong open to making more content as a third season.
>>154415241Draconian rule
>>154417349
>>154417427Except GR15 applies to the entire IP as a whole, not just porn. Disingenuous reply.
>>154417472even as someone who dabbled in the fandom, keeping that shit on /co/ was not sustainable.i wouldn't be opposed to relaxing the rule tho. single pics in random replies at least shouldn't net you a ban
>>154402461its realistic, in the sense that a guy struggling with self hate will usually go unnoticed, ignored and left to rot by society as a whole
>>154417522Not to the scale of causing wars in two worlds. Nor is it appropriate for a comedy.
>>154417651i dunno, if i had the power to burn the world to the ground i probably wouldi used to care once, but now im just bitter and resentful
>>154417674Wouldn't you want yourself to die if shit got that bad?
>>154417836i do, but i also hate people for treating me the way they do and rejecting me for who i am
>>154417651>Nor is it appropriate for a comedyit's very much appropriate.the show's whole thing is tonal whiplash
>>154419359Yeah, you're right about that. But that was like the only death from the war. You'd think some side characters would have died. Bayden didn't even die.
>>154392779Season 2 was so fucking bad. That dude's story was the only good thing about it.
>>154420120but more glendale content = more good
>>154398446>forever never ever never again never
>>154420120I wanted more of the elktaur and the woman. Like have them actually fall in love instead of it being a "love at first sight" cliché.
>>154393834I always felt like the shit about the Nowhere King was weirdly truncated. Like when he's first introduced he comes across as this ancient evil sort of entity but then season 2 comes around and it turns out that he's like only a generation or so old and also it's really fucking weird that the human and centaur worlds interacted with each other within living memory.
>>154410287A therapist is trained in how to help people, a good friend might lead you the wrong way without knowing it. But as the other guy said, a good friend is free. I'm choosing to ignore his tranny obsession
>>154422314they say netflix fucked the pacing cuz they wanted to force 2 seasons when I think they originally planned for one long season or something
>>154422314I think the bigger problem is that the timeline is practically nonexistent. The war was long enough ago to have both civilizations build around the rift doors but recent enough for at least Wammawink to be a survivor of.>>154423811I'm going to request a source on this.
>>154425869wammawink's just that old (gilf)
>>154427798We don't know how time works in Centaurworld relative to human world.
>>154422314I don't think the two worlds were that close in the first place.
Wammawink sexo
>>154402461>nor will self-hate ever result in a worlds warThat's how most wars are waged.
>>154430368Isn't it usually over resources or genocide?
>>154398446>Mega Dong is supposed to be working on it Not just "working on it;" she's DIRECTING. I'm happy she's been able to bounce back after having to rush Centaurworld's conclusion
>>154420375Mercury Filmworks, my beloved~
>>154431764I'm looking forward to hearing the songs
The last good Netflix Original Series.
you DID watch her post series special didnt you
>>154435690There was a what now? Link plz!
>>154435690What even happened to centaurworld tho
>>154436527its a cameo in another show https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFB74lyP5T8
>>154437862Sweet, more Glendale!
>>154436549What do you mean, clearly everything is fine!
>>154437862This is lost media btw At least in its intended format
>>154437862Thanks anon, I love it! It's great to see these characters again.
>>154430695Typically, yes. Peace isn't as simple as forming a drum circle and getting everyone to sing Kumbaya. People often just want incompatible things.
>>154430695Genocide is usually over resources, too. People don't often work up a good hatred of their neighbors until they've had to go hungry for a while.
>>154430695LMAO no. That's usually the cover story, but it's always bullshit. At the end of the day war is manufactured by deeply broken people, who are willing to destroy everything around them to try and fill the void in their empty hearts with profit.
>>154440850Lol. LMAO even.
>>154432366>>154420375
>>154441040>deluded himself into believing he was the son of Zeus>literally killed his best friend when he was confronted with disowning his real father, and then tried to kill himselfI don't see how that disproves the point. He was just as much an empty, self-hating jackass as every other warmonger.
>>154441967Who went around founding cities and pushed civilization to a local height. Whatever his personal demons, he aimed at productive goals.
>>154441967Sounds like his problems were about greed and pride.I just really don't like the message that hating yourself makes you a villain. There's a lot of people in the world who hate themselves and the ability to change it is out of their control. Therapy doesn't often work. What are self-haters supposed to do? Kill themselves so they don't hurt anybody?
>>154442516>hating yourself makes you a villain.It can contribute to it. It's not ALWAYS the cause of villainy, and the anon is wrong about that being the cause of most wars. But when it comes to a personal crisis, some people decide to kill others rather than themselves. This seems to be fairly common among school shooters.>the ability to change it is out of their controlDubious, but beside the point. Their actions are obviously in their control.>What are self-haters supposed to do?Find a noble goal and pursue it, same as everyone else.
>>154442516Honestly, under realistic circumstances, a lot of the elktaur/general's decisions were rational.>Fall in love with a human but it's taboo for humans and centaurs to be together romantically.Turning yourself human would bypass the public outcry.>You divided yourself into man and animal, but both have the same mindThen maybe keep it that way so at least part of you would be with the woman.>You tell your lover you turned yourself human.You don't mention you only just split yourself and there's an elk out there running around with your mind. What are you going to do, show up with the animal half and say he's your pet that talks and has the same voice as you?>Your animal half is sick of being treated like an animal and threatened to tell your loverTurning back would undo all your work and piss off your lover, so try to kill him. That doesn't work, just keep him alive but in captivity, hidden from her.I also want to point out that he was only being a dick to himself. If it weren't for the war that started up and his decision to kill people who try to end it, I think he could be forgiven.
>>154442728True for school shooters, but it's true for a lot of people. It would be like claiming you're evil for playing a shooter game.Self-hate, as an emotion, can stay inside of you. While I think it can be related to evil actions, it's not always prevalent either. It's a comorbidity.The only issue I can pull out of my ass is that what is considered noble is subjective. Feeding the homeless can be considered noble, while some may say genocide is a noble solution.
>>154440850That's just resources again, with the acknowledgement that most of what's being looted goes into the pockets of the people in charge. Which is how it's been since the people of the first agricultural era. (Hunter gatherers kill each other sometimes, but don't generally have the numbers for what we'd call a real war, and when you live in small bands and the head man's tent is like, right over there, it's very hard for him to hide it from everyone else if he takes 90% of all the loot)
Okay, I got another question to ask.What were your expectations for season 2? More human world? Centaurs turning into the realistic artstyle of the human world? What direction for character development?
>>154420120Nowhere King's story sucked tbqh. He's built up in this evil ominous way that wildly clashes with the cutesy world, and then he's just some oneitis retard
>>154444209Anon learns what themes are
>>154443456definitely thought more human world, tho in retrospect centaurworld was more entertaining (and had Glendale)
>S1 makes it seem like the war started ages ago and the lore is shrouded in myth>turns out everything started basically last TuesdayHeh
>>154442943>That's just resources again, with the acknowledgement that most of what's being looted goes into the pockets of the people in charge.And the point is that they only want those resources due to greed that stem from a lack of self-worth, not out of some sense of altruism to their nation. It's like saying crime syndicates exist "for the sake of gathering resources". Like, it's technically true, but ignores how they're all just sacks of shit theives. Warmongers are cut from that same cloth.
put some more FKING glendale in your shit thread
>>154444728
>>154444701>they only want those resources due to greed that stem from a lack of self-worthHumans are prone to greed because control of resources is a successful evolutionary strategy.>Warmongers are cut from that same cloth.>behold a major problem that humans have faced since prehistory in nearly all times, places, and circumstances>despite all this variation, I know a single specific character flaw behind it, out of all possible character flaws, even when the clear reasons seem to be other things that contradict thisYou're going by faith here, anon, not evidence. Where did you even get this belief?
>>154445795projectile wammas
>>154445425haha she so silly :D
>>154431764>chipped tooth CUTE!
>>154444281Thanks for the response. I want to know what people were expecting. I would have thought if the first season was almost entirely set in Centaurworld, then the second season should have been about half-and-half, so the third and final season would be almost entirely set in the human world. The show could mature with each episode.
easy on the fart "jokes"
Their romance could have been cute.
>>154450250the one nadir that makes recommending a second thought
>>154447520
>>154450644cute bug
Making love to Wammawink
>>154450644glenderp
I can't really remember much about this show other than the weirdly excellent villain and how much I wanted to fuck Glendale. The Elizabeth Holmes parody made my penis far happier than it had any right to.>>154435690>>154437862Nobody told me that this was a thing.
>>154437862>by the end of the song the giggle cakes, magazine, wamma's fish embroidery, and the campfire are all gonelol
>>154454386wish I were that snowperson...
>>154445952Kill yourself slopfaggot.
>>154442941>The only issue I can pull out of my ass is that what is considered noble is subjective. Feeding the homeless can be considered noble, while some may say genocide is a noble solution.What does your conscience say?
>>154406085That's really my only complaint with the show. It feels like it was something that was so fucking long ago that no one really remembers how the world used to be or what is actually natural for either world, but at the worst, it's something that happened during the childhoods of the entire cast, or perhaps their parents if you really stretch it.It's like if people forgot what happened on 9/11 and there was this bizarre mystery of these two buildings that no one can remember what they were, but they keep finding old photos where these buildings are part of the skyline, and it's talked about in hushed voices and cryptic clues... but the fucking towers fell while everyone alive now was in middle school and watched it happen.
>>154456219Good question, but I'm not here for introspection.>>154456329I think it's because of how drastically different the settings of the rift doors changed. The original rift in Centaurworld was first in the middle of a bustling commercial port but some years later everything including the statues are encased in a towering stone monolith. If anything, wouldn't it be more accurate and creepier if the modern setting was an abandoned city? That tells more story, though the stone monolith is still cool.If we heard a second version of the Nowhere King lullaby that wasn't the woman executing him, maybe that would convey the locking of the rift was a more recent event.
>>1544563299-11-2001 was nearly a quarter century ago, anon. People born after it happened have grown up and had children of their own.
>>154456585Way to miss anon's point
>>154457393This is real life, anon.https://youtu.be/bc747VAbDVA
I do wish we had more of the elktaur and the princess. They deserved more than just being nameless, immortal figures. The two would complete each other- the elktaur is a no-nonsense inhabitant of Centaurworld while the woman is an open-minded human.Also I really would love to see the elktaur put in a situation where he has to shoot a tiny version of himself from his hoof.
>>154459400lewd
>>154458637>shoot a tiny version of himself from his hoof.reminder megadong confirmed this creates a copy of the caster same as the elktaur split ala the prestigeits why they scream
>>154459559That's how giraffes fight.
>>154458637As much as I despise Live-Action adaptations, a full on animation hybrid movie of these two would do wonders. You can have Centaurworld be hand drawn 2D, the human world Live-Action, and Elktaur/Elk as realistic CGI to really hammer home how truly isolated he is and how doesn't fit anywhere.
I love that no one here complained about the gay guy who's also black
>>154410287Therapist is more knowledgeable about the problems, friend is (likely) not clock watching waiting for the session to end.
>>154442812Everyone knows when you split yourself like that you gotta schedule merging back together on the regular to realign your mind into one track, otherwise one killing the other is bound to happen
>>154461469because he's played completely straight (ha) as a stereotype.plus, if you're watching musicals and you don't want to see gays on stage you might as well give up
>>154459591You say that like it's a bad thing. What's he gonna do, turn himself into a tiny Nowhere King?
>>154460343Taur anatomy makes me very uncomfortable...
>>154407979>I wonder if ChatGPT or Gemini would make better therapists nowadays.Quite the opposite, actually. They regularly do things that a therapist is supposed to never, ever do. https://osf.io/preprints/psyarxiv/cmy7n_v5
>>154463906So do they have two hearts or what?
>>154465154they got confirmed 2 rib cages so maybe
>>154461177I doubt something as goofy as Centaurworld would be successful in theaters. While I look forward to Mega Dong's Bad Fairies, I would not bet money on it being a hit. Who knows, maybe it'll be the next K-Pop Demon Hunters, but it appears that cinema is now for established IPs and runaway-hit independent projects. It's a fun thought though.
How the fuck did this meek-ass nerd become a general?
>>154466105Oh, yeah, a Centaurworld movie would be the most niche product of all time. Who knows though, with how desperate people are for something new it might loop back around to being appealing to general audiences.
>>154466915Maybe Centaurworld will appreciate over time like Labyrinth. Both are weird but Labyrinth is becoming more recognized as a film.
>>154465154The general rule that mix and match animals have full suites of the relevant organs, duplicates included. So a centaur has two hearts and four lungs, and the horse ones are bigger, so stabbing a centaur in the human chest won't kill it very quickly. An arachne has two heads and two brains, so cutting off the human head won't incapacitate it (though it would cut down its field of view).
>>154392873This show has a weird place in my heart, I remeber my aunt who was a dance instructor. She helped a lot of people get into musicals and theater died, when season 2 came out and I had to travel 4 hours to get to her funeral, so I watched it on my way there and it was an odd experience. Almost like she was saying bye. I haven’t watched it since.
>>154468556One artist for the show said that every centaur has a human skeleton somewhere inside their body and the rest is gummy.
What was the point of the mural? The first season ended with the Nowhere King striking the depiction of a woman and elktaur without antlers embracing each other. We see it again in background shots in "The Ballad of Becky Apples" but other than that, nothing.
>>154469665I think maybe it was something he made back then when he was first falling in love with her and hoping she might be able to love him back, and which he now keeps as a reminder of what he lost when he split himself.
>>154392779>Only make one good straight character.>He’s the villainAs expected from the lgbt crowd
>>154470401The mural was already there before the Nowhere King was released from the rift. It was the princess's (and the General's) castle.
>>154470643Did you miss the part where I said "when he was first falling in love with her?" IE before the Elktaur guy split himself. Something he made, perhaps before he decided to split himself in two.
>>154456585Multiple members of the cast are older than 25 and should have been around for that shit to happen, or their parents were and there would be no cryptic shit because everyone older than the cast would just be able to tell them, instead of it being some unknowable mystery that they can only get the answer directly from the ghost of the terrorists who hijacked the plane.
>>154470853So you're suggesting the elktaur gave it to the princess? As sweet of a sentiment that may be, the elktaur seems to have only interacted with the princess twice before splitting himself in half so it's doubtful he would have gave her a huge-ass mural. I think Centaurworld should have gave the elktaur and the woman a story where the two make the key together, but then you'd probably have to redeem the Nowhere King.
>>154470425It's unfortunate. The only positive heterosexual relationship presented in Centaurworld is a family of leaves Glendale sucked into her portal tummy. One of the major themes of the show is found family, and a romantic relationship should count (unless it's incest or betrothal) as that. It's the only instance where found family can make more family.
>>154470901It sounds like Centaurworld's war was short-lived given how the minotaurs had no access to the device that splits and fuses beings together once the rift was sealed. Wammawink certainly remembers it, Glendale probably as well. It doesn’t make much sense.I wouldn't be surprised if the relations between Centaurworld and Human world weren't that great in the first place. Humans don't seem that interested in centaurs and vice-versa.I gotta ask- why would anybody prefer the human world over centaurworld? Given how magic can conjure up food and the grass will give you a massage, it sounds like paradise.
>>154471240Did you miss all the parts of the show where the magic can be terrifying or dangerous, often with very little warning? Think about the Taurnado for a second, and all the people trapped inside it.
The real question is… are YOU comfortable?
>>154471422I'm not particularly scared. If taurnados are like tornados, then they'll only be common in certain areas. Most magic is harmless, and it seems like cartoon physics are in play so you could jump from towering heights and still be okay.
>>154393364I mean....
>>154471690You think they're just a natural phenomena that scoop people up into a whirling chorus that sings an unending song forever in the sky, and you could just not be there when the gestalt monster decides to grab you, too? I dunno, man, the implications of the taurnado for how the centaurworld works are scary IMO.
>>154472337Given the crazy shit that goes on in reality, I'm willing to take that risk.What do you wish Centaurworld did differently in its second season? Like switch to focusing on Rider and the human world, centaur bootcamp, etc.?
>>154471556
It's unusual how the woman and the general were married for ten years and never had any children. Maybe the General never learned how to use his human equipment.