So what's stopping western comics from making superhero characters like this.
>>154410261If we're talking Big 2 then it's because they don't sell. Gooner comics only do well on an indie level because the costs are smaller to cater to the smaller group of people will to buy them.
>>154410261Because people cry about it. Were you not around when everyone was crying about Frank Cho's art?
10t is too fucking based for any western comic to ever even come close.
I am expecting a certain character to be posted before this thread 404s. Don't disappoint me /co/.
>>154410296they don't even sell on an indie level. not really.too much piracy, too many chargebacks due to post nut clarity, and payment processors don't want to deal with you either.
>>154410366My guesses are Mighty Endowed or Super Milf.
>>154410366Chocolate Mikmaid.Artist has been awol and nobody replaced him
>>154410375Their kickstarters do well.Plus its the #1 type of paid work for artists
>>154410399The people funding those kickstarters and paying those artists are an entirely different breed from the typical Western comic book reader. As >>154410342 pointed out, they have a tendency to throw a hissy fit over the slightest of cheesecake.
>>154410261She-Hulk is still drawn like a dude in a wig... So I guess that's a no.
>>154410410Those people are not a small minority, and eclipse the people who would throw a hissy fit over it. Garantee sales would spike if superhero comics were packed full of titty monsters. Journalists would rage, but everone would be buying.
>>154410261Because society thinks boobs are evil for some fucking reason, dont worry, im making a comic with big breasted characters regardless and I'll show the world how cool big tits are!
>>154410424This makes me miss the "Bad girl" era of the late 90's and early 00's.
>>154410449Basically this
>>154410454>Basically this
>>154410375Jim Balent's still going strong.
>>154410375Niche markets do well when people with money support it. That's why crowdfunding works for them. That's also why it's hard to find a good number of them online for free because the amount of people with access to it are those that paid for it and don't want the comic to be pirated.
>>154410261Because the market isn’t interested>BUT I JERK OFF TO IT!!Yeah and you are a gooner not a typical comic book reader. The only reason sex sold back in the was scarcity. Today you can use your phone to jerk off in five seconds, people willing to consume and pay for cheesecake with no payoff are minuscule niche because it’s basically a specialised softcore kink
>>154410261>"Why don't western comics cater to my very specific and incredibly retarded fetish?"Gee man, I don't know. It's a mystery.
>>154410261The first Young Justice villain was this
>>154410261Ugly women and homosexuals.
I'm all for big tits but those are fucking tumors, jesus christ. Get better taste.
>>154410483This.
>>154410467Selli sex is the oldest and most reliable job in human hisory. Either softcore or hardcore, pick your meal.
>>154410530You mean prostitution? There's a difference between a comic and a warm body. Not to mention there's a history of pornographic material being niche compared to any other kind of entertainment. The dirty magazines and VHS tapes, the days of teens trying to see boobs on blurry HBO and Cinemax channels when they're parents are in bed. Looking at porn and hoping no one finds you doing it or seeing your search history. It's always that thing people enjoy in private but don't spend crazy amounts of money on. You can inject some sexiness in things like comics, movies, games but there has to be a balance. Too much and it'll get labeled as porn and a tougher sell. Always has been that way. That's why selling overly sexy products works well on a smaller scale. It matches the number of people willing to pay for it. But that's getting harder to support because access to porn is easier and cheaper or free.
comic code clamped down on the early pulp comics
Golden Girl thread?
>>154410261Religious nutgobs claiming sex will corrupt their kids
>>154410710That was thirty years ago.
>>154410261I'm gonna assume she's rapemeat for various demons and mutants, so obviously that'll get banned everywhere
>>154410710
>>154410710This guy has a point. The children of those religious nutjobs, while not religious themselves, openly embrace, support, and even outright encourage censorship. Every news post about something "problematic" being censored has its comments filled with zoomers praising it.
>>154410775It wasn't the religious nutjobs who raised these children.
>>154410791it was, except they don't worship Jesus, rather they worship blacks, homos and the state
>>154410399>Their kickstarters do well....You didn't hear? Kickstarter tried banning nsfw last month.
>>154410716Nope, she's a hero in BnH.
>>154410366GoldenGirl?
>>154410453I never stopped missing it.
>>154410868>>154410872Wish she had her own mini series, the art style looks cool to look at>>154410775There's literally videos online of actual zoomer crying and freaking out over the shitty Oppenheimer sex scene where the dude literally had to hug his of over the most lamest sex scene imaginable, we used to be proud of having chick's with big tits but now we're just a bunch of pussies that pretend we're moral because some unhappy fucks decided you're not allowed to like big tits or what other bullshit they'll try to censor. >>154410706GG could of been a bigger deal if there was a consistent person making her comic, could of been /co/ mascot or pet project, but people arent cool enough anymore
>>154410477Then why do non-american comics cater to every fetish imaginable? Why can european comics and manga do it?
>>154410916This is true, you got a fucking farting Harley Quinn comic and some other feet related bullshit, but the moment tits are involved; all of a sudden breasts are more taboo than portraying sexaul assault in comics, even fucking feminists with their "body positivity" movement hate women with big tits too, what the fuck happened to artist being rock n roll? What is this pussy shit?
>>154410915Horie Ryu is her artist and he is a truly stounding artist, not even counting his excellent titty art. Wish she got a limited spinoff or something.
>>154410931>you got a fucking farting Harley Quinn comicWhich was a comedy comic not fetish porn
>>154410916money, tits that massive are already niche in japan but since the market is so huge authors can just gamble that sort of stuff, in any other market it would automatically kill 99% of the potential audience and doom your comic to fail
>>154410941You mean activism.
>>154410261>>154410349I have never met a white or asian person that likes tits that large. >>154410399They didn't until the last decade when certain countries got brought into the internet.
>>154410971Is this a parody?
>>154410261Coombrain design
>>154410884Who the hell is goldenGirl?
>>154410971this isn't an official batman comic, I can make a nazi batman it still wouldn't matter
>>154410989I have no idea what the fuck this is.
>>154410976>I have never met a white or asian person that likes tits that large.Wtf, have you meet a black person with tits this big?
>>154410937I'm mostly baffled she didn't ever get even a cameo in the background of a BnH chapter. But, I guess she would need to lose a few limbs before Hori pays any attention to her.
>>154411001Yes it is you deadbrained shitskin!
Because here in the states, fan service will only get you so far. You have to actually have a story to keep people hooked
>>154410994Media used to be more sexual back in the day, we need to go back.
>>154411004It’s a joke comic that uses clever literary reference
>>154411019Yeah real quality stuff alright!
>>154411019>. You have to actually have a story to keep people hookedBad guy fights good guy. Here is your story, now add some fanservice to it.
>>154411019There are PLENTY of manga and european comics that have both, hell most "prestige" manga don't shy away from fanservice.
>>154411019Shows how weak Americans are. Baki hasn't had a real story for years. The newest series, Baki Rahen, has spent the last 7 chapters have just been Yujiro doing random shit. It has been mostly unrelated story arcs. Jack getting into fights, Katou not believing Baki is strong, Doppo doing Karate, Yujiro wank, Yujiro vs a rammer, Prime Minister of Japan meeting Yujiro. Next chapter could be some completely different thing.
>>154411000
>>154411117Old american comics used to be random fun bullshit as well. They also were sexier.
>>154410296>>154410375>>154410476>/co/mblr pushing the sex doesn't sell meme despite evidence to the contrary even in our time
Because it's a gyrocentric ageAnd we're just living in it
>>154410941>Which was a comedy comic not fetish pornHaha yeah, it was totally just "comedy" and certainly wasn't fetish-charged at all!
>>154411000Porn character.
>>154411117And for all their pretension all they produce is bottom of the barrel slop for the common denominator
>>154411142>capitalists are intentionally not making money with sexCool story bro
>>154410477>Huge tits>Very specific
>>154410261The only thing manga is good at that western comics refuse to do is making sex jokes. >noooo manga has good actionboring waste of time.
>>154410453Brian Pulido is still making Bad Girl comics you know.Dan Mendoza is also still making Bad Girl comics.
>>154411227>boring waste of time.You are a boring waste of time. Action can literally be used for characterization, development and even symbolism. Shigurui would be nothing without action. Might as well say that dialogue and paneling are also a boring waste of time.
>>154410865They reversed that decision pretty quick
>>154411227Tbh I prefer panneling in manga in general for the way it flows not just for "action" stuff. As for sex it doesn't have to be jokes. Fanservice can be portrayed in non-jokey ways as well. I also appreciate the genre diversity and spread and the way the indie scene works but european comics do these things better than american comics as well.
>>154411218Almost as if there are third parties and middle management
>>154410261>>154411189 is why we won't.In America big tits are for porn only, never comedy.
>>154410868Is this a doujin?
>>154411262And they'll keep trying. This is happening a lot lately.
>ITT: seething /co/ sissiesBaki alone mogs every Amerikike comic
>>154411315To the point the absolute line is trying to ape manga
tranime
>>154410261Source?
>CHADnime
>>154410261They kinda do. But not everyone is so thirsty like the Japs or Asians.
>>154411379I haven't heard this name in a long time. Has it finished? >like the Japs or Asians.Nah westerners are equally thirsty if you look at indie stuff, they just aren't allowed to express themselves.
>>154410261Comic book writers and most artists have convinced themselves that a medium revolving around retards fighting crime in spandex is somehow above sexualizing its female characters now, and most of the readers fell for that mindset as well since they were told to. I actually remember walking around uni a few months ago and overhearing a comic book-reading söy type loudly talk about how it sucks that there's still so much demands for muh sexualizing of women in the superhero space, i think he was specifically seething about Marvel Rivals, which seems to piss off that crowd a lot
>>154410349Do we really need to see the outline of her vulva?
>>154411425It's called a camel toe, bigot.
>SEX SELLS!!!Then why isn’t Tarot the best selling comic in the west? It’s been published over twenty years and next to nobody gives a shit
>>154411142No you dont understand. Sex sells good when it appeals to troons and gay men. Sex sells bad when it appeals to normal people
>>154411473If it's still being published then it means it still has a fanbase. Anyways the discussion was more about normal mainstream comics including fanservice not very niche ecchi series
>>154411488Nobody claimed it didn’t have a fanbase. The point, dipshit, was that it doesn’t sell anywhere near the levels that it should if sex is all you need to sell comics like morons ITT keep insisting. Hell the author is a famous capeshit artist so it’s not even like it’s too obscure for the mainstream audience.
>>154411499NTA you're being retarded on purpose. The main argument is "sex sells" which is true unless you're a lying troon. You built a strawman asking why Tarot isnt the "best selling comic in the west" and other anon corrected your retardation by pointing out it sells copies which addresses the topic of the debate. We both know you're going to use troon logic to retard your way out of this one.
>>154411533Reminder: They do it on purpose
>>154410261In a sane world, Power Girl would be the American version of this.
>>154411409>is somehow above sexualizing its female characters now, and most of the readers fell for that mindset as well since they were told toYou have never read a comic if you believe that
>>154410261She needs an ass to match, frankly.
>>154410261The problem with this board, other than taking obvious baits of course, is that they actually believe the bullshit they post because they are out of touch with reality, Emma Frost wears more revealing clothes in the comics than she does in rivals but here will pretend that's not case because they want to push the West Vs East crap agenda.
>>154411533The whole “sex sells” argument is only used in these discussions as a way to whine that manga sells better than western comics and then imply that if you just added sex everywhere comics would be saved as they would start selling gang busters again. So why is Tarot not outselling Marvel and DC? Answer the fucking question, disingenuous asshsole. All this bitching about lack of sex because boohoo all the lefties and middle managers and wokes hate tits and sex and beauty and have ruined comics but the second someone points out the simple fact that sex in comics isn’t a magic sales guarantee in the way it’s always implied to be you start trying to change the conversation
>>154411499Weird how you've ignore the second part of my post. Why can't mainstream comics include more fanservice? The sales wouldn't drastically increase but it would still attract at least a few more people.
>>154411765>Emma Frost wears more revealing clothes in the comics than she does in rivalsPost a comic page with her then
>>154410971>In Gotham City it's illegal for women to fart
>>154411029Small and perfect.Not overcompensating coomer filth.
>>154411765>Emma Frost wears more revealing clothes in the comics than she does in rivalsShe LOOKS SEXIER in Rivals.It's not about clothes or breast size or face or any one individual detail. It's about the whole package, the vibe, the intent. Emma Frost in Rivals is designed to be sexy to men. Emma Frost in comics is 99% of the time just there to be a boss bitch and any sexiness is incidental, almost done at protest.
>>154411916Even if they are not my favorite thing I think huge oppai should exist since I have my own specific fetishes and I can respect other people's preferences.
>>154411925>Sexier>VibeYou zooms really are brainwashed
>>154411993"Vibe" is an older word than you, self hating zoom zoom
>>154411862>>154411925>It's not about clothes or breast size or face or any one individual detailSounds to me like you are just making up stuff just to complain.>Emma Frost in comics is 99% of the time just there to be a boss bitch and any sexiness is incidental, almost done at protest.She was created to be the X men's femme fatale but I don't expect people that very obviously don't read comics to know that
>>154410261I don't understand why mods are allowing offtopic My Hero Academia anime art here. It's against /co/'s number one rule
>>154412012"Created to be" is meaningless. Poison Ivy was created to be a seductress. She's now a strictly lesbian ecoterrorist who spends most of her time in boardrooms.
>>154412008You again? You zooms really like too be disgenous don't you? You types keep over using words to such an extent that it makes you think it's the only way you can communicate, slop is a word has existed for ages but tell me, has it been used almost EVERY FUCKING MOMENT? Seriously stop acting like a fucking woman and have some accountability you utter disappointment of humanity
>>154412012Is this her usual outfit? I guess it shows more skin but the boobs are less well shaded than the rivals design and the rival designs also benefits from showing more of her legs. Now if we compare it to one of the skins than the Rival designs is 100% more revealing
>>154412013In order to compare American comics to manga, you have to post manga so that people know what you're fucking talking about. Of course if your goal is to shut down that conversation because you don't like admitting comics have problems...
>>154412031>She's now a strictly lesbian ecoterrorist who spends most of her time in boardrooms.And this is connected to her sex appeal how?
>>154412043Vibe is the correct word to use here, Herr Hitler.
>>154412043>You again?I haven't used /co/ in a long time, besides the Conan announcement so I don't know who you think I am. > slop is a word has existed for ages but tell me, has it been used almost EVERY FUCKING MOMENT?No. I agree that slop and kino are mostly used by zoomers but vibe has been used in the same way as that anons did for a long ass time and only a dumb zoomer would think otherwise.
>>154412062Sloppost
>>154412053Are you seriously asking that question? Poison Ivy hasn't been sexy in decades you disingenuous fuck SPECFICALLY because she's written as a boss bitch instead of a harlot. There is nothing less sexy than a "woman in power".
>>154412072>No John you are the zoomerKeep deflecting, I am not a fucking zoomer thank god
>>154412047>the boobs are less well shaded than the rivals design and the rival designs also benefits from showing more of her legs"the boobs are less well shaded". Shut the fuck up lmao, almost every rival skin is taken from the comics.If Emma was drawn like in Rivals the very same people in this board would start complaining about "masculine jaws", "safe horny" and other nonsensical shitt
>>154412083>There is nothing less sexy than a "woman in power".If you are an asocial basement dweller
>>154412087If you aren't one then stop having meltdowns when people write normal words. That's an extremely low iq reaction.
>>154412101>"the boobs are less well shaded". Shut the fuck up lmao, almost every rival skin is taken from the comics.I've literally searched for her model and that's what I've noticed, do it yourself. >the very same people in this board would start complaining about "masculine jaws", "safe horny" and other nonsensical shitt/co/ is not a monolith and I don't care about made-up scenarios.
>>154412083>Poison Ivy hasn't been sexy in decadesLying bitch
>>154412115>Zoomers>Normal words
>>154412131Dude that's just Kim Possible.
>>154412131>variant coverPost pages from inside the comic bro. I am not saying I don't believe you but you might never know
>>154410419Dude looks like a lady~
>>154412138Yes. Vibe is a pretty normal word that can be used with a clear intent and it was used with one.
>>154412163For real for real, dead ass no cap
>>154412174>looks guys I am pretending to be retardedLike I've said, low iq behavior. You might not be a zoomer but something even worse, a non-white.
>>154412123>Fanservice is when "shaded boobs"That's literally what you are arguing anon. How Am I supposed to take you clowns seriuosly when you say dumb shit like that?
>>154412012>She was created to be the X men's femme fataleShe was created to be a villain for the X-Men...
>154412192Ahh post bruhTouch grass
>>154412194Because more effort being put into making the sexual features look better makes women sexier. After all a Frank Frazetta drawing is sexier than stick man with boobs.
>>154410261>So what's stopping western comics from making superhero characters like thisThere are a couple.1. The west has never had a sexual revolution for men. People assume that men do not need one because most positions of power are held by men, but that is nor the case. Male desire, sexuality, appearance are still treated as shameful. Male sexuality hasnt progressed past puritism. 2. Some women use this assumed shame as a weapon or a defense to remove expectations from themselves. They assume thar all Male desire is a check list of expectations put apon then which gives them anxiety when rhey dont measure up. They use shaning language to beat Male desire back. To manage ir. To force it to hide. To attempt to make men have lower or no sexual desires. 3. To add to 2, this goes foe most Male emotions that are not in service to others. All forms od selfishness are seen as wicked. Anger, desire passion, if they are not producing resources for society or a mate, are to be controlled. Limited. Pushed down. A man should never yell or get a boner or waste a day selfishly. Its that purtism again. Idle hands are the devil. As for 1 and 2. Someone should really say "so what?" When women try to use shaning language to control Male desire.shame as somethinf to avoid is always assumed. Someone should just call women on it. 'This anime is so gross. Look at that Male sexual fantasy! Look at the size of her ass. Disgusting""So what. Do men not get to desire things?""There jusr injecting their lust into...""So what? Do men not get to look at women that are attractive?"It all kind of falls appart when you ask. There isnt a good reason for Male desire to be forbidden. Not even in kids media so long as it doesnt have nudity. Children like shows with attractive people. Its why girls buy princess dolls and boys like athletes. Its not sexual for them. Children just pay more attention to fit attractive adults.
didnt stan lee try with stripperella?
>>154412210>doubling downIs it that hard to admit you were wrong? I guess so be it. A white man would have never had this exaggerated reaction btw.
>>154412236It's too late, shartzooms killed the site, we're stuck with zoomshits and their mod enablers until the site finally dies since barely anyone bothers with shuch crap
>>154412256east vs west is /co/ culture though, it has been for long before zoomers knew how to use the internet
>>154412208A femme fatale is a villain you mouthbreather
>>154412223>1. The west has never had a sexual revolution for men. People assume that men do not need one because most positions of power are held by men, but that is nor the case. Male desire, sexuality, appearance are still treated as shameful. Male sexuality hasnt progressed past puritism.The blame for this is not entirely women's fault. Men are just as much to blame. Men manage the sexuality of other men as much as women managed each other in the 1800s. Its part of why gay men were so stigmatized. Men in the west just recoil at the presence of another man's sexuality. They do not want to think about what another man's dick is doing, straight or gay. This recoil has allowed them to become dupes of puritism and feminism.In my own opinion, this recoil comes from how competive men are for mates. In a small tribe before media, most discussions of desire would focus on real women in the tribe. Having discussions on who you liked would imply mate selection which gives single men a lot of anxiety. Men used yo beat men to death for mates. Primates still do. Some apes will blind and castrate each other for mates. So there is a natural desire to have all the men in the group shut up and avoid the process all together. But in 2026 we have tons of media and can have these discussions without talking about any women we know or real women. Its harmless now.
>>154412263I didn't say it was, my point is that the mods almost completely have given up
>>154410261Why dont you just jerk off instead of pretending you want to read a story? Dumb fucking normoid fetish and bad design btw.
>>154412307Problem zoomie?
>>154412307>normoidIt's not like comics have non-normalfag fetishes either. >storyWhat's wrong with a story having fanservice? Back before the 00s american movies used to be filled with that kind of stuff. Modern creators are just pussies.
>>154411409Ah Marvel Rivals, the unavoidable elephant in the room when some /co/mblr tranny claims "goonerbait" can't make money or can't be successful. Anyway its weird since sexy women in skimpy outfits are a staple of cape comics since the very start and still are.
>>154412219>Because more effort being put into making the sexual features look better makes women sexierEmma body type in the comics is still the prefered body type among most peopleI think you and the other guy are just desperatly trying to come up with whatever dumb arguments pops in your mind because you can't disprove the fact that Emma looks hot in comics certanly more that the character OP postedStorm and Magik also have more revealing clothes
>>154410393Wlpcomics in general have been inactive for at least a decade or so
>>154412358>Emma body type in the comics is still the prefered body type among most peopleTo what? Her rivals body? I think more people prefer more details but if you say so. >I think you and the other guy are just desperatly trying to come up with whatever dumb arguments pops in your mind because you can't disprove the fact that Emma looks hot in comics certanly more that the character OP postedBut this has nothing to do with the op, the op asked for more characters with humongous boobs, which the rivals design doesn't have either btw. You are the one that claimed that Emma in the comics shows more skin and is sexier. I've simply compared your image with the rivals design and her skins and I have to disagree.
>>154412338It’s an online video game not a comic.
>>154412223>Male desire, sexuality, appearance are still treated as shameful. Male sexuality hasnt progressed past puritism.So why don’t men do anything about that? Why do men just keep harming themselves? What is up with the endless circle of self-harm?
>>154412417Some are, some aren't, however its shameful the amount of self hating cucks out there
It's largely because manga is still often times made by horny young men, while comics these days are mostly made by and for aging harpies and henpecked gen X males, neither of whom really like seeing fanservice beyond "whoa, that girl is in a dress showing her *gulp* cleaveage! This is so risque, I'm gettin' the vapours, someone fetch my fainting handkerchief!"
>>154412083>Poison Ivy hasn't been sexy in decadesPretty bold claim. Care to set a specific cutoff date to that? Or are you just talking out of your ass like usual?>There is nothing less sexy than a "woman in power".Translation: women who aren’t weak and submissive intimidate you. That’s a sign of insecurity.
>>154412404Whatever, it has sex, it sells, that very principle is why certain variant covers exist
>>154412223>The west has never had a sexual revolution for men.has anywhere?
>>154412338>claims "goonerbait" can't make money or can't be successful.What fucking trannies hate goonerbate? Trannism grew out of men's love for female bodies. Tranny porn stars act more like women than normal women. Theh fantasize about being aome big titty milf stay at home mom
>>154410710Political "Correctness", Helen Lovejoys, Metoo, Gamergate, etcTl:dr all this repression against animal instincts just make us worse as humans
>>154411839Why do they need to do fanservice, gooner?
>>154412307>want to read a story?Motherfucker capeshit evolved from pulp stories which had no problem with telling a story while also including sexy stuff. You are not reading high literature, you are reading about men in spandex punching bad guys and you are ok with it being tamer and lamer than its inspirations.
>>154412445Because they used to have it and because men enjoy it. Why do you want everything to be safe and sterilized?
>>154411925>Emma Frost in comics is 99% of the time just there to be a boss bitch and any sexiness is incidentalSweetie, Emma Frost’s whole character is that she’s a bitch. She’s been a bitch for over 40 years. The fact that you say Rivals sexiness is good and done the right way but comics sexiness is “incidental” reveals so much about you.
>>154412422>that she’s a bThe are comics made by millennials as well but the wrong types of millennials.
>>154412397>I think more people prefer more details but if you say so.Considering how they dawing her in the pin ups I doubt it>the op asked for more characters with humongous boobs,OP is a troll that made another east vs west thread>You are the one that claimed that Emma in the comics shows more skin and is sexier.I said that it she wore more revealing clothes in the comics wiich is an objective fact, you shifted the argument to shaded boobs and how she had "sexier" features despite the fact that the most popular Rivals characters among gooners have a slender physique than Rivals Emma
>>154412031>Poison Ivy was created to be a seductressPoison Ivy was created as a plant themed super villain. She was a “seducer” because that was what women villains were considered good for. And then she evolved to a much developed and stronger character than “make my little weewee feel funny”.
>>154412422>"whoa, that girl is in a dress showing her *gulp* cleaveage! This is so risque, I'm gettin' the vapours, someone fetch my fainting handkerchief!"You described One Piece fan service, literally made for 12 years old
>>154412432>has anywhere?Not really. Maybe the French, some. Maybe the Japanese. But its still nitch and usually side steps the issue of women shaming men with just not giving a shit what women want or hiding it in humor.Here's the thing with japan. Even if they dont give a shit what the worst type of women want they still return to tradition, which also represses male sexuality.Despite having fsn service and hatem anime, they almost never take things to their logical conclusions. They rarely have a male Mc have sex across the length of the show. He is often agast at all the female attention. Sex is often not even implied. A MC can get from season 1 to 12 and not have sex with any of the hot women around him. Secondly, the women and women like characters of any given anime are rarely the end game. They dont get the happy ending. The MC almost always ends up with a modest kind woman with a slender simple body. Your miles, your titty monsters, milk trucks, monster girls, horny assertive women are almost always played off as villains or jokes. If by some miracle if they make it to the finish line and marry the MC, they end up neutered as a villain or sexpot. They end up morphed into modest kind woman.One good example is 002 from Darling in the Franxx. As soon as she was locked in as the end game girl, her personality was nuetered. It was almost instant.
>>154412560>Considering how they dawing her in the pin upsPost it. Aren't pin ups more detailed than normal comic pages? >I said that it she wore more revealing clothes in the comics wiich is an objective fact,Her in-game skins are more revealing. >you shifted the argument to shaded boobsI compared both of their boobs and I said that the Rivals ones are more detailed, which is true. >Rivals characters among gooners have a slender physique than Rivals EmmaI never brought up slenderness but Emma's legs are pretty tick and sexy in Rivals.
>>154410449>>154410453>>154410454>>154410483Women being sexy isn't cool, it's desperate Nerd impulse to tease their inadequacy.
>>154411285Softcore porn comics only exists because you can't openly sell hardcore porn in stores. If everything is being done online, then there's no reason for creators to bother with softcore.
^ *roast noises*
>>154412417>So why don’t men do anything about that? Why do men just keep harming themselves? What is up with the endless circle of self-harm?See my other post on male anxiety around mate selection and the conflict it causes in small groups. Apes rip out each other's eyes and testicals over mates.Also, married men have a vested interest in talking men into hiding their sexuality. Less worry about mate pouching if all the younger men are less sexually assertive nor peacock
>>154412422It also helps that a lot of mangaka got their start as porn artists.Even some of the assistants who worked on My Hero Academia were either previously porn artists or were actively drawing porn on the side while working as assistants for MHA.Hence why Hori calls many of his assistants perverts.Word to the wise, do not look up any of Horie's porn unless you have a hardcore feminization fetish.
>>154412420So what is stopping them from having a sexual revolution? How are gay men more capable of being open and positive about their sexuality than heterosexual men?
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>>154412614>then there's no reason for creators to bother with softcore.They could do it because its fun. Not everything has to be one extreme or the other.This is one reason I dont trust people that are hard-core against hot people in media that use "just go look at porn, dont force people to see sexual images"What kind of porn is that person watching where just the act of hinting at hot people is an act of violence against children? What kind of goblins are hiding in that person's mind? Are rhey into shit videos? Valance against women? Pissing? Seeing attractive people isnt bad for kids. So what is it?
>>154412652I chalk it up to performativism and infighting, there's lots of factions and individuals competing and fighting against eachother
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>>154412587>They rarely have a male Mc have sex across the length of the show.Eh that's because things can be shown on tv, a lot of ovas and 90% of vns and seinen manga show or imply sex. >he MC almost always ends up with a modest kind woman with a slender simple body. I think this is mostly s battle shonen trope as well. For example in Happiness the mc gets with the assertive female
>>154412628>do not look up any of Horie's porn unless you have a hardcore feminization fetish.genderbent or otokonoko?
>>154412597I want to look at enjoyable things. This means awesome stuff and sexy stuff. I will pay for things I like. You can call me an incel or inadequete or a fascist. I will still not pay for boring and ugly crap. And if you keep angering me then I will eventually start actively antagonizing you.
>>154412654Has it ended? Manga inspired comics tend to have sexy babes which I appreciatee
>>154412702The latter.An absolute fuckton of the latter.
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>>154412654the game was pretty good
>>154412502Fanservice existed because you couldn’t easily publish and distribute porn, buddy. The reason nobody makes erotic thrillers or sex comedies anymore is because they’ve lost their core reason to exist: an acceptable medium for seeing naked people and fucking. Nobody has any reason to consume them when they can get actual erotic material that directly appeals to their personal kinks without the need for pretence that “oh I’m here to see a story ha ha ha”.
>>154412614>Softcore porn comics only exists because you can't openly sell hardcore porn in stores.By this logic no soft-core webcomics or indie comics should exist either yet they do. I like sexy comics that also have good character writing.
>sex doesn't sellThis is true for western comics but only because western comics have unappealing art. Why do you think 99.99% of western NSFW art is from cartoons? It's because cartoon characters have basic but appealing designs. Comicbook women are UGLY. Seriously, Power Girl will never be popular if they keep drawing her with fake tits and an ugly face. Make a sexy version of her Teen Titans GO design. It's the same with all western comic females.
>>154411615Power Girl is Superman with a liberal Karen boob job so not a good idea.
>>154412720nice
>>154412737>Fanservice existed because you couldn’t easily publish and distribute porn, buddy.Fanservice was a thing in action movies as well, even well beloved ones. Also don't act like it's not intentional censorship as well that made comics more sterile. Fanservice is not always about fapping, it's something normal that shouldn't be censored.
>>154412660Or they could not do it because it doesn’t interest them.
>>154410261>Thread is this old and no one has posted Body Bags or Panda.But seriously the Japanese are no longer any good at comics. It's too industrial now.
>>154412596> Aren't pin ups more detailed than normal comic pages?I'm talking about the Rivals version they gave her the comic regular body type>Her in-game skins are more revealing.All her skins are weebified versions of outfits she wore in the comics none og them is more revealing.Her defeault skin is puritan compared to the stuff Emma usually wears
>>154412307>Why dont you just jerk offWhy do people keep using this tired old fallacy? It serves nothing.
>>154412744GOD, I wish these "experts in how muh weeb comics are superior" would permanently fuck back off to the squeeing shithole that is /a/.
>>154410261This odd insistence too many companies seem to have with catering to non-customers.
>>154412717When someone is this obsessed with arousal through fiction it’s a sign of unhealthy (likely complete lack of) social life, especially when it comes to the opposite sex
>>154412774>It's too industrial now.Maybe Sj, most magazines still have a lot of cool stuff. I've been reading Veil and yesterday I started Kaisou Toshi Danpenshuu
>>154412804How dare you get a boner!
>>154412717>I will still not pay for boring and ugly crap.Then why do you read Shonen Jump? JJK, CSM and DS are drawn like shit, Bleach is the only saving grace of that magazine if you want sexy woman
>>154412781Your image actually looks good and sexy. This is 1000x better than the comic page because of the details alone. >All her skins are weebified versions of outfits she wore in the comics none og them is more revealing.They are more revealing than the image you've posted previously.
>>154410523And then it was found out all her footage was from youtuber Let's Plays and she didn't play any of those games herself.
>>154410937>Known for drawing lewds of big titty superhero from a manga he was an assistant on>Is now the artist for a genderbender manga where one of the main antagonists is an evil American black dude who gets genderbent into an evil sexy white tomboy who gets sexually humiliated whenever possibleThis guy is such an unrepentant pervert, it's fucking hilarious.
>>154412769>implying mainstream comics aren't censored to begin withlol
>>154412808Comics industry period lacks imagination, and both American and Japanese comics have fresh and interesting comics hidden amongst piles of dreck.But weebfaggots insist on coming here to compare their few gems against the most bog standard Batman #1240 because they simply aren't versed in any comics besides weebery.And frankly it's fucking annoying how persistent they are in flaunting their ignorance here.
>>154412845>Is now the artist for a genderbender manga where one of the main antagonists is an evil American black dude who gets genderbent into an evil sexy white tomboy who gets sexually humiliated whenever possibleThat sounds extremely based, name?
>>154410261>The truest form of what makes nippon ichi compared to amerenpou kusogaka!So that's it then huh? The well ran dry.
>>154411117Sounds pretty weak.
>>154412852Even in mainstream manga magazines, if you step outside of sj you get a lot of options while mainstream comic brands just suck now. I don't have anything against indie american comics though. > because they simply aren't versed in any comics besides weebery.thread is about big tits, it has nothing to do with whatever war you imagine
>>154412768>Fanservice was a thing in action movies as wellYes, producers kept putting it everywhere because it was believed that it sold tickets as it served as another acceptable form of seeing titties. That’s why they liked doing rape so much. Extremely lazy way to add sex in the movie.>Fanservice is not always about fappingYou wouldn’t be that mad if it wasn’t about wanking. You don’t act this way about lack of teen sidekicks, talking animal characters, heavy handed “crime doesn’t pay” morality tales, etc
>>154412829Who said I am reading Shonen Jump right now?>Bleach is the only saving grace of that magazine if you want sexy womanThat magazine has an old history with plenty of sexy women.
>>154412804I don't need your comic/movie/game to survive but you need my money. So my opinion matters while yours doesn't. Bring back Carol's, Gamora's and Mystique's outfits or starve.>>154412829Like hell I'm reading Shonen Jump. There's nothing awesome about people in plain old clothes. Give me Abara.
>>154412912Weebs will insist they know your tastes in comics, they assume you are only familiar with Jump like t hey are only familiar with the Big 2.
>>154412831>Your image actually looks good and sexy. This is 1000x better than the comic page because of the details alone.Yo are deflecting, her body type isn't like in the games>They are more revealing than the image you've posted previously.They are based on outfits from the comics so they are irrelevant
>>154412307You'd have a point anon if your arguement wasn't focused on superhero comic which is primal turn off brain entertainment that appeases the savage and the horniness in us.
>>154412902And? I'd rather producers be allowed to use those things again then censoring them to shit. Using this logic might as well censor all gore, right? Might as well make everything for babies. >You wouldn’t be that mad if it wasn’t about wanking.How are you not mad at medium getting more sterile and safe, do you want everything to become the same sanitized garbage? >talking animal charactersI like talking animals though. Teen sidekicks can be pretty good in the hands of the right writer.
>>154412947>Yo are deflecting, her body type isn't like in the gamesYes it isn't It looks ever better than the game because it's more detailed. >ey are based on outfits from the comics so they are irrelevantCan you post modern comics that have them?
>>154412942I don't even think that anon was a weeb, he was probably a capeshitter that only knows the 3 most recent sj manga and bleach.
>>154412897>if you step outside of sj you get a lot of optionsLike what?
>>154412939>I don't need your comic/movie/game Yet you insist on acting like a salty bitch about them.
>>154412948>Superheroes are about being hornyOK, gooner
>>154412697None of the big three comic heroes will ever be this.
>>154412955So where are all the threads where you complain about lack of talking animals and how it’s censorship?
>>154413019>big three comic heroesSUperman, Batman, Spider-man?
>>154412717> I want to look at enjoyable things. This means awesome stuff and sexy stuff. I will pay for things I like.That means you want to live a lie and believe something that only you feel is awesome, enjoyable and sexy, as a delusion. That isn't cool or preferable to the majority.
>>154413027Haha I don't need to complain myself, anons on /co/ make threads about how they wish they brought shorts with talking animals back all the time. Too bad the threads are destroyed by 2 autists.
>>154412744>posts off model of the worst character and not even sexy in her showDo better
>>154413034>That isn't cool or preferable to the majority.It used to be back in the day, now our society is filled with braindead zoomers. You are not making a good argument.
>>154412965>it's more detailed.More like more slender and in line with how she looks in the comics>Can you post modern comics that have them?Can you stop making questions that expose you as a tourist?
>>154413014I mean have you seen wonder woman and early Robin.
>>154412863Shuujin TenseiI don't know if I'd say it's based, it's more "school shooter energy: the manga" if anything.
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>>154413084 #Lying to yourself is maidenless behavior.
>>154412769>Or they could not do it because it doesn’t interest themThe funny thing is you probably really think this and dont realize that women are packing their fiction wirh characters they find hot.Something like hotel hazbin and hellva boss are packed with male designs women like viv find hot. The radio demon is just viv's crush on the oncler
>>154413034>That means you want to live a lieHuh?>and believe something that only you feel is awesomeWhat? Where did all this come from?>That isn't cool or preferable to the majority.Which is why the majority buys I Am Not Starfire, eh?
>>154412978>he was probably a capeshitter that only knows the 3 most recent sj manga and bleach.Oh really should I have mentioned HXH, AOT and OP which are also drawn like shit?
>>154411220"Unnaturally, retardedly huge tits" isn't specific to you?
>>154413090>More like more slender and in line with how she looks in the comicsI never said that I care exactly if she is slender or plump, it has a lot of detail that makes her far sexier than any other pages you've posted and than her rival looks. Btw isn't that image from an older comic?
>>154412798Truth hurts huh?
>>154413150>but how about theseNo one brought up these when talking about sexy females you lying retard.
>>154413137>>154413109>zoomer expressionYep the truth hurts.
>>154412983In terms of manga or magazines? I've already mentioned Veil. Harta is a magazine I like a lot and BGS is pretty good as well.
>>154413189>No one brought up these when talking about sexy females you lying retard."These" are the hottest manga right now dipshit the anon said he doesn't want too look at "ugly crap" so I was curious to know what he consumes.
>>154413238>"These" are the hottest manga right now>lying againMaybe OP but Aot hasn't been popular in some time and the hxh fanbase is not that big. > so I was curious to know what he consumes.He has already told you what he consumes + there are thousands of manga to choose from faggot.
>>154413238>"These" are the hottest manga right nowAnon, half the manga you listed ended years ago.
>>154411049Americans have a problem with nudity. It's nothing new. > "prestige" mangas Names them so I can laugh.
>>154413150Idk about the manga but both the hunter x hunter anime had sexy gals.
>>154413297>Names them so I can laugh.By that I meant manga that are usually held in high regard and given those big tomes format, even basic stuff like berserk and vagabond has nudity.
>uhm fanservice is irrelevant because porn existsThen why do some artists on nsfw platforms even bother drawing only slightly nsfw stuff, why doesn't everyone just draw hardcore porn?
>>154413238Nips are built like Greys and worship asslessness. The last time I saw an attractive woman in a manga was Heart Gear.
The most popular manga in both America and Japan are not fan-service centric.
>>154413271>Maybe OP but Aot hasn't been popular in some time and the hxh fanbase is not that big.The first three I mentioned smoothbrain>He has already told you what he consumesHe told me now >there are thousands of manga to choose from faggotFuck off weeb
>>154413370>asslessnessIdk, some recent anime and manga put a bit too much accent on asses, like the fat elf one
>>154413393>The first three I mentioned smoothbrainYou referred to these ones, aot, hxh, op, in particular as the hottest ones you low iq monkey. >He told me nowHe told you here >>154412939, absolute retard. >copekeep being retarded like the whore of a mother made you.
>>154411533Sex sells is like saying water is wet. That said, there is a world between a good looking character and a walking fetish.
>>154413383Kingdom has nudity, one piece has fanservice, my hero academia had some fanservice
Honestly, half of the issue is just that America artificially limits the pool of artists, instead of just hiring an artist who draws well, they have to hire artists who are approved by tumblr (forma de twitter, forma de bluesky), which just results in everything being kind of sterile because anything that offends these very online people is going to get scrubbed or changed.
>>154410261I wish there were more western cartoon series with fanservice. Only the French seem to give us good stuff on that front.
>>154413472>>154413383Oh yeah, forgot to add but apothecary diaries also has some fanservice in the manga and Sakamoto days has character with a pretty revealing outfit. Dandadan does have a fanservice, wtf are you even talking about? Blue lock has fanservice for women.
>>154411487That kind of makes sense if you look at it as a matter of supply. There's already a so much normal porn for normal people out there that a bit of extra cartoon porn has a lot of competition. Meanwhile a lot of queeroid fantasies are so bizarre and flat-out unrealistic that literature and cartoons are often the only ways to handle it, and people working in those fields can find a market. Furry art commissions are a good example.
>>154413383why isn't demon slayer there?
>>154413523Because the manga ended like 4-5 years ago.
>>154413492The Shinobu bath scenes would get banned everywhere though
>>154413531mha ended 2 years ago
>>154410261boobs too big. wont sell
>>154413883What if the comics also had BIG pages?
>>154411789>All this bitching about lack of sex because boohoo all the lefties and middle managers and wokes hate tits and sex and beauty and have ruined comicsThat is true though. A lot of lack of sex is because the industry has been neutered. Sex probably won't sell by itself but covers with sexy women on them will probably attract a few new readers.
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>>154412798Just remember that they're beta. Itch normies who see climbing in the anime bad. Wagon as a substitute for taste. They happily acknowledged the shitty stuff in the west, but they'll shriek like cryinging children when you point out the crap that the Japanese have put out.
Why are they like this
>>154414037A bad anime/manga is just bad like any art that's failed.Comics are artifice/propaganda.
>>154413965>WE NEED TITTIES BE-BECAUSE IT COULD MAYBE SELL TWO EXTRA COPIES
>>154414021>no youNeat argument.
>>154414054No clue.
>*cough*
>>154414037Can you please rewrite that in English? I've been watching anime/reading manga for longer than you've been alive. Yes there are plenty of bad anime and manga, just like there is plenty of bad stuff in every other medium, I am happy to acknowledge that. This has nothing to do with the thread subject though since it's a fact that capeshit comics have been neutered and they've cut down on a lot of fanservice to appeal to normalfag audiences(too bad those audiences won't buy them either way). You see this as a comparison between manga and comics when it can as well be a comparison between american comics and european comics which are both /co/
>>154413491What the fuck are you talking about? They are literally scouting people from the Philippines and South America because their rates are so low now. It’s always some fucking social media or woke boogieman instead of reality with you fucking losers
>>154414081Tell yourself whatever you need to buddy.
>>154414093>we don't need tities, we have to censer everything, we have to make the medium as stale and sterilized as possibleWhy are you like this? And yeah those 2 copies could mean something for the industry lol
>>154413094>w-w-what about 90 years ago???!!!
>>154414117The left can't meme.
>rightoids spend decades trying to scrub any form of sexiness or dissent from the world entirely >now everything is gay and lame and the only hobbies they have are twitter ragebait>WHY DID THE WOKE LEFTISTS DO THIS???
