You incels don't know what you want! That's why you're still incels - 'cause you're stupid! Just tell me what's wrong, with the freakin' SHOW!Not a Simpsons thread, I'm just complaining about the state of /co/. Seriously, it'd be a lot easier on my sanity if /co/ just fucking told me why they didn't like a show and/or if it sucks without their stated reasons being buzzwords or /pol/.
>>154465783You're mad that people are gatekieeping their gatekeeping.Think another that.
>>154465783>/co/ is one person
>>154465824>gatekeepingThey’re just being insufferable moronic dipshits
>>154465824I'm mad about gatekeeping of gatekeeping?Also you messed up your grammar/spellcheck.
>>154465783>Be op>Watch woke garbage >Get upset when anons tell him it's woke garbage >Make a whole thread about it when pic related is op's real problem
>>154465845Pretty much. All they want to talk about is gooning to cartoons females and politics.
WAH HAHAHAHJANNIES
>>154465783Given /pol/ is actually fucking relevant right now and showrunners and other creative medium social medias are full of spite forthe customer base that doesn't kiss their ass, I'd say that was a legitimate reason. If I was watching Loony Toons and Bugs went on a tirade about how much he despised men, and then one of the animators went on a social media rant about how bugs was their self insert and anyone who disagreed with their message should stop watching the show, I think I'd have a good reason to bitch and moan.
>>154465864I don't get annoyed about shows being "woke". I get annoyed when they're badly made or written or do things I really really do not want them to do. I think it makes me incompatible with /co/'s mindset.
>>154465864We've had spillover from the usual insulated Tumblr lite places probably because of the Digital Circus. I think it's dying off so they're returning to their over moderated shitholes.
>>154465886Ok, faggot OP
>>154465886Not wanting progressive rhetoric poisoning your animated adventure is perfectly reasonable. It might be animated well, and have an excellent VA team, but if they put that awful world view in (and of course defend it like a Christian at the pulpit) I don't want to consume it.
>>154465886>when they're badly made or written or do things I really really do not want them to doThese are defining traits of woke garbage. The only thing you're incompatible with is discussing media outside of a vacuum
>>154465934>"Woke garbage" is when the show does things I don't like
>>154465934They're probably the type to say>Erm, human rights, equity, anti-racism, and love is love are woke? And this is a bad thing hoooooow?! These fucking religious fanatic faggots cannot figure out how people can see through their honeyed words into their spiteful actions. >>154465970Case in point.
>>154465934No, that's just garbage in general. Nothing woke about it. Do you even know what "woke" means?
>>154466012>human rights, equity, anti-racism, and love is love are a bad thing hoooooow?!Yeah, why are all of these bad things? These are all lessons our favorite shows have been teaching us since forever, now suddenly we think it's all garbage?
>>154466012>and love is love areGrammar.Also how can "they" be religious when you call them anti-religious?
>>154465970Yeah actually it's an umbrella term that covers crap like >Humiliating male characters while female ones are cool and collected >Libtarded shit like preferred pronouns >Anti white sentiment >Safe edgy humor >Passive aggressive humor about politics Just some off the cuff easy to understand examples but you definitely already know what people are talking about and just play dumb
>>154465783Go back to r*ddit
>>154466086>>154466090Stop proving him right, faggot
>>154466030Yeah woke shit and the themes, jokes, ideas, etc in them are garbage. Great job following along
>>154466092I've never seen any of that from the shows /co/ talks about.
>>154466092>Humiliating male characters while female ones are cool and collected Kim Possible.>Libtarded shit like preferred pronouns What's the big deal if someone prefers being called a certain way?>Anti white sentiment As if it's their fault most hate crimes in America are enacted by whites.>Safe edgy humor>Passive aggressive humor about politicsPaging every animated sitcom ever.
>>154466030Nta but woke is just a ghetto word Tumblr repurposed into a "hip lingo" slang for progressive stack concepts which are repurposed pieces of famous European thinkers. >>154466086Don't be obtuse. That's what they put on the tin, then they go spill the beans on social media about how they actually hate everyone and want to give the state power to put you through struggle sessions to comply with their fanatical Hysteria over shit like microtransgressions and "casual racism" in a purity spiral. How many more of these clowns have to mask slip before you understand? >>154466090They are a phenomenon known as secular puritanism. They demand everyone follow their rhetoric and belief system religiously, they are not religious in the abrahamic sense. This is a heavily Western concept that replaced typical religion. It gives them everything they want. Original sin, forgiveness, penance, and the ability to virtue signal to their community about how much they despise "sin" and seek forgiveness. It also gives them the ability to play moral high ground and punish those who are "heathens".
>>154466092>>154466118X-Men at their best have always been woke shit. You think the X-Men are garbage?
>>154465867The cartoon side does, the comic side has storytimes, east vs west threads and the occasional whining about marvel and dc
>>154466184Stop deflecting, tourist
>>154466148>Kim Possible.You are fucking retarded.
>>154466184>>154466166
>>154466148Nice fanfic
>>154466166>If I redefine what words mean and invent new terms for branding people, I can call people whatever I like and be right>And also "they" are the only ones doing this and not me
>>154466148This is just disingenuous. All of those things are entirely spiteful lies built on what a lot of these showrunners were educated in college about. Maybe it's not a big deal to you, but the customer is allowed to dislike the product for any reason. Also you need to study crimes statistics and per capita, because you look ignorant right now, but this isn't a place for arguing about that. Something like X-Men was very progressive for the time, and even preachy, like its position on South Africa, nevertheless, they were still pulled in to having to pretend they liked their customer base and couldn't openly spite them while being propped up by government funding and fanatical believers that don't even buy the media.
>>154466243Stop coping
>>154466255Stop proving me right
>>154466243I see you are deploying the nebulous form of arguing known as pilpul. I've been around since Tumblr was first conceived, so I've seen people run at the mouth as you are doing plenty of times. Those are the terms, and those are how they are used. If you don't accept that, that's not my problem. The people on this board point it out enough to be able to notice a pattern. Not to mention these showrunners are active enough on social media to have enough reference material to make my case. Look for yourself, although I doubt you will since you're a believer yourself.
>>154466271In your dreams, faggot
>>154466284Why would I dream about you proving me wrong?
>>154466271I'm the guy that you (you), you are proving me right. You are still terribly incorrect, and you are trying to avoid the fact that people have identified progressive stack rhetoric, and rightfully dislike it. You're hoping that by watering down the definition and constantly changing what each concept can be identified by, you'll hide and integrate your belief system into our media. Unfortunately it's just too terrible and at odds with reality to do so.
>>154466296>UNO reverse card memeYou lost
>>154466298I don't make media. I just watch it and beg it to stop sucking.
>>154465886I think half the point is just provoking a reaction and derailing the board
>>154466356I don't want derails. I wish people who derail threads into racism were shot and killed as an example to all /pol/posters. There's nothing less extreme that will cause the occupiers to leave after their mass invasion of every board in the wake of /pol/ Harbor.
>>154466339Well it's not going to stop sucking when the industry is full of nepotistic, spoiled rich kids, government funding for the sake of propaganda, and a community within a high wall that forces indie projects to comply with the same nonsense or not get funded. It reminds me of the voice actor community, extremely elitist and very spiteful towards those that don't kiss their asses. I would have liked AI to be able to punch hard enough at that industry to force them to make quality products without the above mentioned factors, but it is not intentional enough in its output to be used for anything like a coherent cartoon slot. Closest thing I think we have is Glitchworks, due to them apparently giving showrunners more freedom than the major companies.
>>154466398Lol, tourist
>>154466407I want AIslop to be banned from the entire industry and removed from the internet.I want indie projects to also be banned. I want cartoons to be released on weekly schedules just like anime are and refuse to watch anything that takes over a year to release unfinished 15-20 minute videos that you're supposed to be impressed by just because the main character DOESN'T want to be a magical girl.
>>154466398It doesn't make any sense for you to bring up /pol/ that much. They were largely a reactionary movement to the increasingly progressive political theater. Without that, they don't have any steam to complain about. 2016 created a far reaching reactionary movement to the things that we talked about here. Not to mention the constant raiding from bots and "interested parties" like DARPA, kicking the beehive. This isn't something as simple as welcoming /a/ tier no fun moderation.
>>154466457Salty
>>154466457That just sounds like the Japanese animation industry. I'm not sure if that is compatible with Western Nations, because of socially interested investors and government funding. You have a bunch of hands in the pot that aren't interested in good animation, but rather interested in using animation as a vehicle for whatever they are financing.
>>154466458>It doesn't make any sense for you to bring up /pol/ that much>explains why it makes sense to bring up /pol/ so much
meta threads are cancer and against >>>/global/rules/3 >>>/global/rules/8 and >>>/co/rules/1OP is a faggot. Fulfill your civic duty to help purge this board of anarchistic, sociopathic, intellectually regressive youtube/reddit/twitter immigrant subhumans like him who are under the delusion that all of 4chan (instead of just the designated shitposting playpens like /b/, /trash/, /bant/, etc.) is a toilet by reporting this thread en masse.If necessary, force the "mods" to actually do their fucking jobs by mass reporting this shitty thread as a violation of U.S. law.Here's a link so you don't have to scroll up to the top of the page. https://sys.4chan.org/co/imgboard.php?mode=report&no=154465783You can report something multiple times by clearing your cookies and reseting your router.
>>154466488You're being obtuse again. Let me reiterate. The politically incorrect board is not the cause, but a reactionary effect from the Tumblr fallout that would eventually result in several other sociopolitical events taking place. If you wanted to solve that kind of issue, you would need to remove the reason why they have any reaction at all, especially in the animation industry. It has become highly politicized, and you can't go through any of the material or social media of anyone who makes the material without tripping over political jargon.
>>154466483>You have a bunch of hands in the pot that aren't interested in good animation, but rather interested in using animation as a vehicle for whatever they are financing.That's not any different from what anime is. Idolshit and toy/manga/light novel commercials take up almost all of anime.
>>154466571No
>>154466568If you remove the thing people are reacting against, then the reactionary movement becomes the new ruler of culture without a fight.
>>154466571Which is a fair conclusion to make, however all of those articles exist to expand the core material. It's capitalistic in nature, but ultimately, you are being sold accessories. Unlike the Western market, which just wears the skin of the product for the sake of pushing a narrative. Much like a skinwalker, it's very obvious and doesn't look right, but they persist. I would rather go the '90s style like with He-Man, and have direct tie-ins to the show.
>>154466620Well then I guess we are right snuggered now then, mum.
>>154466626He-Man was from the 80s. And I've heard it fucking sucked from all standpoints of quality.
I just want MAWS to stop feeling like a product with zero effort or talent put into it and for RWBY to be sentenced to damnatio memoriae.
>>154466701I mean I grew up with reruns on late night cartoon Network that would eventually become boomerang, I don't think it was that terrible. It's obvious that they wanted to make the toy tie in, because that immediately transferred into capital, but everything about it was insulated into the he-man universe. You didn't have a shower go on a tirade about Palestine, or have He-Man look at the camera and tell the viewer "we must be better men". Every lesson was integrated. But alas, I digress. I have to go to work. I really liked the old darkstalkers cartoon, and the anime. I think they were cool for different reasons, even if the former was just funny because it was so bad.
>>154466772>or have He-Man look at the camera and tell the viewer "we must be better men".There were obviously PSAs in these shows. They were just different preachy nonsense like "Never do drugs".
>>154466835Different and better thing
>>154466835That's true actually, although I will add that such a concept is at least fairly innocuous compared to something of today. Like say Steven universe and those commercials aired on CN about "anti-racism", or Static Shock and it's "special episodes". Maybe the real solution is to keep everything in world and leave out external, current politics and social issues. Okay I really have to get to work now. Riveting conversation thank you.
>>154466737>feeling likebut that's exactly what it is. it's just tumblr fanfiction taking popular characters and twisting them into a shoujo anime where superman is a limpwristed prettyboy 3 seasons in, still acting like he's new to everything while lois is a raging bitch
>>154467027>tumblr fanfictionFat white men don't use Tumblr.
Alright. I'll tell you what's wrong.1: Only the main protagonist gets the upgrade.2: Female characters that wear lipstick never get tied up nor gagged, nor vice versa.3: Character fuses with, marries, or otherwise gets compared to the wrong character.4: A character that isn't quite a villain suffers too much.5: A character gets turned into a minority even when it doesn't make sense.There probably isn't one show that does all of these, I just wish these cliches would die.
>>154467068Yes they do
>>154467068No one uses tumblr anymore but it's a completely apt designation for shit like that.
>>154467073"Compared to"?>Only the main protagonist gets the upgrade.4chan loves Dragonball, though.>Female characters that wear lipstick never get tied up nor gagged, nor vice versa.I think there's plenty of Scooby-Doo stuff where Velma got kidnapped.>Character fuses with, marries, or otherwise gets compared to the wrong character.So why do you ship Finn with Huntress Wizard?>A character that isn't quite a villain suffers too much.Okay I seriously have no idea what this is in reference to.>A character gets turned into a minority even when it doesn't make sense.Yeah that fucking sucks, though if it's executed well it's acceptable.
>>154467272>>Character fuses with, marries, or otherwise gets compared to the wrong character>So why do you ship Finn with Huntress Wizard?You are stupid so stop deflecting
>>154467362What the fuck do you want me to say? I also wish I could just murder the Star Vs writers who thought there was no solution to Jackie besides throwing her out of the show and making her a lesbian just to railroad Starco. It would've been so fucking easy to kill Jarco just by making her a mermaid.
>>154467426>unironic starsperg
>>154467272>4chan loves DragonballIt depends on if you don't care about the characters introduced in Z onwards and if you think Dragonball fusions makes up for the lack of pre-Z characters upgrades.>VelmaIt's Daphnie.>So why do you ship Finn with Huntress Wizard?I don't. I ship FinnxPrincessBubblegum. This is just one of the reasons I hate homosexuality. Not onlyp is it a sin, but it's bad enough seeing my ships die without it.>I seriously have no idea what this is in reference toThen look up Butt Monkey or Jerkass Woobie. I would give you more examples, but I don't want to trigger you more than I already have.>Yeah that fucking sucks, though if it's executed well it's acceptable.at least we can agree on that. My first firestorm was two white dudes, but would rather have Firestorm be the black justice league member than Flash or Green Lantern. And there are times when it's done right. I though Jett being black in the live action version makes sense because I see him as the cowboy bebop equivalent of Barrett. They're the big guys, they were the first partners seen with the mc, and they each have at least a metal hand.
>>154467480>I don't. I ship FinnxPrincessBubblegumDelusional and with shittaste
>>154467545Wong on both accounts.
>>154467561No
>>154467480>It's *Daphne.You said you took issue with the non-glamorpuss girls NOT getting tied up.>I ship FinnxPrincessBubblegum.That pairing got taken off the table the moment FP showed up, and only got less desirable as PB got rewritten into a tyrant. It's hardly anything to do with the show committing to Bubbline. >Flash and Green LanternWeird pull given that the Flashes people like (Wally, Bart (sic)) are both white, while nobody likes Hal except for HEATers and there's two other white GLs people like.
>>154467594Yes. Now go fuck yourself.>>154467624Congratulations. You're an illiterate, retarded, gay, underage, racist, person of color. You go fuck yourself to.
>>154467718Fuck you
