if he was going around pretending to be a superhero's sidekid, he probably had a shitty home life.

When everyone has gay sex. No one will be.

>>154516822
Had gay sex for the first time yesterday. Pretty overrated

>>154516857
Sorry I had to pull out. I didn't want to get you pregnant.

>>154516673
For some reason movies about capeshit love the idea of a loser/incel fan of the protagonist getting spurned and going full supervillain.

>>154516673
The movie was about fatherhood and Syndrome saw Mr Incredible as his father figure who abandoned him

He wanted to be a hero but the all-powerful Narrative wanted him to be a villain, and what the Narrative wants, the Narrative gets, so Syndrome literally had no option but to dance along the plotted line like a good little puppet.

Here’s something that’s always stuck out to me. Why is his villain name Syndrome? It doesn’t fit in with or reflect any other schema in the movie, and it’s very bizarrely specific for a name that has nothing to do with his toolkit. It doesn’t reflect his act 1 getup as Incrediboy either.

>>154518687
Because he started out a s just being a minor villain, but when the movie was rewritten with him as the main villain, the name and costume just stuck.

>>154516673
Weirdly the movie goes out of its way to prove Mr Incredible 100% right to tell buddy no. It's a universe where heroes are almost routinely killed. Even Helen says villains never hesitate to kill a kid.

>>154518500
Pretty damn relatable too.

When my dad went out
>"for cigarettes"
18 years ago, the first thing I did was go out to the garage and build a giant robot. Pretty much all giant robots have the same story, some deadbeat dad walks out and the kid builds one.

>>154518912
You’ve gotta find first gear in your giant robot car.

I mean I always assumed he was just a fucking lunatic and even if Mr. Incredible played along for a while eventually something else would have set Buddy off into being a supervillain

>>154516673
Yes

File: mr obvious works this con(...).jpg (546 KB, 1192x1764)

546 KB JPG

>>154516673

File: 1770312076382846.png (331 KB, 732x632)

331 KB PNG

>>154519097
most likely yes
buddy was like the meme guy from megamind
he was always a selfish jerk. A good person wouldn't become evil from being rejected once.

File: valquira01.gif (156 KB, 150x300)

156 KB GIF

>>154516673
He felt rejected by super hero community

>>154516673
despite all his intelligence, buddy never realized it made him a super in his own way

>>154516673
If he really wanted revenge, why not just engineer a situation where it looks like Bob molested him? Now THAT would bring down the legacy of Mr. Incredible. And it wouldn't take 15 years of planning and super murder.

>>154520494
He didn't want to take revenge that way; he wanted to be better than his hero and allow everyone to be a super.

>>154516673
>>154518660
>>154519097
The truth is he never actually cared about being a super hero in the sense of saving and protecting people, he wanted the fame and recognition of being one. Buddy was never a good person deep down, he idolized super heroes for being powerful and famous, he wanted that popularity, so he chose Mr Incredible. A true good person, even when being rejected by their idol would still want to do the right thing and help others, Buddy didn't want to be that at all, and never did.

>>154520494
Psychics existed in-verse IIRC so not only would that be a huge uphill PR battle but it could probably be conclusively determined fake.

>>154516673
>why did the super genius obsessed with being a hero's sidekick devolve into villainy when he was chastised and rejected by his idol?
OP sounds like the type of person to question every character's motivation and ruin comics for themselves and that's assuming they read comics.

>>154520231
I think Hal is actually a more interesting character, because you can debate both ways if he ever would have done anything violent or criminal if he hadnt been given power and freed from accountability

>>154518500
>Hey Dad, whatcha doing? Can I help?
>No son, this is very dangerous, for your own safety just go home.
>REEEEE I'LL KILL EVERYONE!!!111

>>154520808
You could, but I think him getting powers showed his true colors inside, when given ultimate power instead of doing the right thing he squandered it

>>154518500
But he killed a bunch of random people

File: 1644965816423.jpg (64 KB, 500x667)

64 KB JPG

>>154520975
>what no fatherfigure does to a mf
Incredibles is full of imperative truths

I think they had to make it like that. If they just made Syndrome not kill the forcibly retired supers to train his robot AI and just had him act spiteful within reason then he wouldn't really have been much of a villain. People would just think 'wait, is he even wrong here?' if all he was doing was tricking people and cosplaying. So they had to course-correct and make him do unreasonably evil actions weren't weren't really justified by his character within the story.

Tangentially, it would've been nice to see the ideas that Incredibles mentions about 'everyone being special meaning noone is' and things along those lines. And that could've been an actual motivation of the character of Syndrome rather than just conceited butthurt. I think Incredibles 2 probably should've tried that kind of narrative, and considered people who were super without being a super.

>>154518408
So what, what's your point? He's a villain and it worked for the film. You act like his writing's too formulaic.

>>154520231
>>154516673
Incels deserve death

>>154518912
Could've been worse, your deadbeat dad could've built the Robot. Always a red flag.

>>154524324
Incels deserve sex

>>154516673
There are guys on this very website who want to burn everything to the ground just because a girl told them no.

>>154520808
This is kind of the plot of the original Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde.

>>154520843
Would you truly be the paragon of a "boy scout" if you were on the ass end of the social hierarchy before hand?

>>154524570
I probably wouldn't start destroying random shit and taking over my home city. I'd be too busy destroying Israel.

>>154524570
In Buddy’s case that was fairly included with Mr. Incredible needing to work on the same attitude that hurt Buddy in his relationships with his kids, who he actually is supposed to be personally responsible to. Hal wasn’t a fanboy seeking a daddy in MM though, he was just single

>>154524353
And when all the incels have had sex... no one will be

>>154524611
>Hal wasn’t a fanboy seeking a daddy in MM though, he was just single
It was clear Hal was struggling in some way or form. Especially where he lived on the rough side of town.

>>154524743
Sure the difference is as a character he was written as acting on an intrinsic personality flaw rather than being shaped by past experiences like Megamind or Buddy

>>154524275
He's just the skeleton of the villain they try to pretend he is
He has his plan to make everyone super with him as the one with the best stuff as everyone uses his inventions
Would have worked to SEE those inventions in the hamd of the common man.
Like that mugging scene
Great to show Bob's personality
But if the mugger had a knife or gun
Then the victim pulls out a Buddy Invented Anti Mugging Ray or whatever the fuck, suddenly Bob sees someone who would have needed his help in the past take care of themselves
"Why do we need heroes if we can just do it ourselves"
Now it shows the influence Syndrome is already building
So that when he debuts against the robot it isnt that he's super, its look how great his stuff is.
In fact the other heroes being alive would make it better.
He trained his robot to beat them and then he lets them go one more time knowing that they cant win
In public so they can all be seen losing just for him to come in quick and take care of it
The public sees a new hero who can make them all as good as him
They dont see that these heroes were kept captive

>>154525182
>He has his plan to make everyone super with him as the one with the best stuff as everyone uses his inventions
>Would have worked to SEE those inventions in the hamd of the common man.
That's not his plan you fucking retard. That shit was an afterthought for when he was done playing hero as a twist the knife in thinking he'd distilled everything that made Supers Super into his gadgets but the truth was he just made weapons while lacking a Super character.

>>154520826
>not grasping the main theme in a children's cartoon
kek

The S was for Sigma male

>>154525337
That BS joke in the Jack-Jack short is quite funny lol

>>154524618
lel

>>154520231
Hal has zero skills or qualities though. Buddy was a genius and clearly profited from his own manufactured gadgets and came up with a plan for the future. Hes also not angry or upset at his machines failing against superheroes, he upgrades and improves.

He has a tiny penis.

File: sponge.jpg (120 KB, 665x763)

120 KB JPG

>>154516673
maybe it wasn't just the one thing, more stuff could've happened leading up to the point where he became syndrome

then again this website stands as pretty definite proof that people will hold onto the pettiest of grudges for years and years

>>154527368
How would you know?

>>154520266
I can relate. Rejection is a bitch...

>>154518912
Or a giant robot just appears out of nowhere. They have a knack for doing that.

>>154516673
>What the fuck was his problem?
Jimmy Neutron stole his whole style

>>154525208
It quite literally is his plan you fucking retard
He says it to Bob's face
"When everyone's super, no one will be."
The demonstration against the Omnidroid was the selling presentation
The military doesn't stop it.
So he flies in, fires a few lasers and then uses the remote
Had the robot not learned of this weakness the end result would have been Syndrome victorious and everyone around the world wanting to buy his stuff
He didn't take anything about supers to recreate it in his gadgets. He made jet boots and zero point energy.

>>154518687
Hero Syndrome

>>154518812
Who was the original Big Bad?

>>154516673
His talents were in making weapons. So he became a military contractor, and naturally he turned evil.

>>154516673
He was just obsessed with power.
As a kid this meant idolizing supers.

>>154518408
Well, that was why Lex Luthor became a villain in the Silver Age, so it’s not really new.

>>154520808
Good point. If Hal never got super-powers (and lied to, making him think he had a heroic destiny) and got some therapy, he probably would’ve been fine. But that makes him even more of a screwup for Megamind, since he bears a large portion of the responsibility there. Given his intelligence he could’ve been a mental evaluation of a person before doing this to them, but he just didn’t care enough.

>>154530474
Some generic rich guy

>>154531488
Ah, okay.

>>154516673
>Syndrome, the guy who worked for his powers, is the villain for even having them, and it seems those born with powers only ever become good guys in the incredibles, whereas all the villains use artificial means
>"People born into power will always be trustworthy and righteous, people who work for it are evil and cannot be trusted"
Probably not intended but a consequence of the way the film portrays supers. The idea that god or whatever powers that be must be infalliable when it decides who holds power; and the people shouldn't in any circumstance be trusted to make such choices

>>154520975
When a children's cartoon movie is too deep for you I think its time to just give up

>>154532026
Bucky is a very gifted kid, so you could say that he didn't work for his initial abilities either. The show also depicts Mr. Incredible training and getting back into shape, and that he also values doing things with a rigid code of responsibility. Just having natural talent doesn't mean that you didn't ever work for to enhance it. It certainly gives you a kickstart, though, which I'll reiterate that Bucky had from his obvious knack for invention as a child. If anything, the movie emphasizes using what you are given for good in a responsible way, even if it means you have to make compromises.

File: call.jpg (93 KB, 800x1080)

93 KB JPG

>>154524275
>So what, what's your point?

Sorry you feel so threatened

nah the inflection point is fine. while nominally above board what mr. incredible did to bucky was devastating, his idol and the most important person in his life discarded him like a burden he never gave a shit about. because bucky is a super genius that can develop things of incredible power it blew up really bad rather then just something that sent him down a depressing, aborted life path.