you now remember that wonder woman has a sidekick
Do Cassie, or Donna, show up regularly in Wonder Woman books? It doesn't seem like writers give her a supporting cast to play off of.
>>154517367Unfortunately Wonder Woman has too many sidekicks Cassie was best when she was a geek, unfortunately they stole her origin for New 52 WW and the character has been irrelevant since.
>>154517410>Unfortunately Wonder Woman has too many sidekicksIronically, none of them lasts long enough to be remembered or even interacts with Diana.
>>154517367>Etta Candy>The Holiday Girls>Donna Troy>Lyta Trevor>Natasha Teranova>Julia the Daxamite>the space pirate crew>Cassandra Sandsmark>Yara Flor>Lizzie PrinceDidn't forget. She's got a lot of those. And before you ask, Artemis is her rival, not her sidekick.
I will say, Etta has been showing up a lot more in recent years, so that's nice. >>154517402>It doesn't seem like writers give her a supporting cast to play off of.Because most comic book "writers" are lazy retards who can barely comprehend anything other than punching things and talking about nothing for six issues.
>>154517402Nope, Donna is stuck repeating the 80's in Titans, Cassie has been mostly MIA since New 52 Teen Titans ended, since it's one of those books absolutely incompatible with continuity, she had a brief cameo in New Wonder Girl's book.Right now Trinity, Wonder Woman's daughter from the future gets most of page time, and they're trying out Brazilian Wonder Girl in the new Teen Titans book coming out in a few weeks.
>>154517402Neither Cassie nor Donna are organic additions to WW comics. Donna was created in TT comics because they didn't realize the Wonder Girl who appeared in WW backups was just teenage Diana. Cassie was created by a WW writer, but she was also a blatant copy of an existing character created for royalty reasons and quickly ported over to Young Justice and Teen Titans after her initial setup. Both are shared characters that the WW book might not have editorial control over at any given time, so why bother when WW books can use any of the characters that can fill the role they already have and control?
>>154517773The way you write makes me think you don’t really know much first hand and are repeating things you read elsewhere or a comics YouTuber talked about.
>>154517862Feel free to refute me on any specific point.
She has like 7 sidekicks at this pointAt least they don't get killed as often as Batman's do
>>154518009Biggest point is that DC doesn’t pay royalties for derivatives of a mantle, according to Chuck Dixon. John Byrne wouldn’t make any money off Cassie as Wondergirl, because Wonder Girl as a copyright already exists.
DC is too much of a coward to write a charlie's angels/dirty pair/totally spies style fun comic with Donna, Cassie and Yara under Gail Simone and Amanda Conner because she would get the jim lee's aproval to tell king and his mother to suck a dick.
>>154517410>stacy heroine with becky sidekickneed more of this dynamic>bonus if the nerd gets more attention
>>154517367She cute
>>154519947I agree
>>154517367Why is Cassie not her sidekick. Or why didn't they pair pre-ruined Jon and Damian with a Diana daughter or something to make "Young Trinity"
>>154517473They understand race-swapping too.
Etta gave up her ultimate form too early. Probably because Diana looked like a cunt for taking her to bulldoze bushman cannibals and making fat jokes in her secret identity afterward.
>>154517367
>>154523786Was Yara ever Diana's sidekick?
>>154517402Donna is considered a Titans character by DC. That's where she was created and that's where all her characterization and development comes from. Donna basically never showed up in precrisis Wonder Woman and appeared in less than 20% of the 1987 volume, and most appearance in later volumes are just lip service. Cassie showed up more in WW comics by the virtue of being created there but after the early 00s she also became considered more a Titans character.
>>154518205>>154518009>>154517773I assume they are mixing it up with the current state of DC and Marvel. I think the royalties thing changed and now they do. But it wasn't like that when Cassie was created.I can't find it but I remember an interview with Byrne where he said he didn't use Vanessa because she wasn't created to be a superhero and thought it was disrespectful to Perez to change her intent. Also he notoriously didn't read the Perez back issues so I assume he didn't want to worry about writing them 'incorrectly'.
>>154517367cute boobies
>>154524915I'm pretty sure current contracts don't allow for royalties for characters deemed derivative. Given Byrne's history and use of authorial intent as an excuse, that sounds like a bullshit justification.
>>154517402Donnah was a Titan character and most of her development is there , but Phil Jimenez, Byrne(which he killed her son) and OYL short run, has her in the book.Cassie was mostly on YJ and Titans book although I remember her being in Amazon Attack 2.
>>154524741No
>>154517367What happened to that little girl you all thought was cute for that month? Her daughter or something
>>154517367She's cute.
>>154517367Cassie needs something to do.She’ll never be an elder Titans member like Donna. And now Yara Flor has replaced her as a young Titans member.
>>154527045Isnt she usually paired up with Tim and the other heroes his age.
>>154520516She's from the 90's, her analogs are Conner Kent and Tim Drake.Jon and Damien's analog is the recently invented Trinity as their all the children of their mentors
>>154520516Wonder Woman lore usually dictates if she has sex and willing submits herself to man she'll lose her powers, it comes it, in her original book during Crisis, she finally gets married and then is killed in Crisis proper.
>>154527230>lore usually dictates if she has sex and willing submits herself to man she'll lose her powersThat sounds stupid. Why did DC do that
>>154527297To prevent Wondy sex scenes :(
>>154527230That hasn’t been a thing since pre-crisis. And it’s not even her powers she loses, it’s her immortality.
Wonder Woman really has only one sidekick, the rest are random legacy characters that rarely help her do anything
>>154517367Wonder Woman's best sidekick is Steve
I challenge you anons to create a villain for a Wonder Girl that isn't just stealing Diana's villains or in Donna's case isn't some person who wants to fuck her real bad. Yara and Cassie in particular are in dire need of some villains.For reference these are the original villains for each Wonder Girl:>DonnaHyperion and the rest of the Titans of Myth (considering they brainwashed her)Red Panzer III (technically was created for her in Titans 1999, even if he's a legacy of Diana's villain)Lord ChaosDark Angel (she shared her with Diana in the beginning but her focus became more Donna)PerfectionBogeyman>CassieLycusDiesel>YaraCuca
>>154528229uh i dunno someone with ice powers always works
>>154528229Cassie: Khione. Evil ice goddess. Yara: Hornswaggle, evil deceiver who tricks women out of their fortunes using mind manipulation.
No one remembers Poison Ivy had a fucking sidekick.
>>154528069Your boyfriend can't be your sidekick; there's a conflict of interest.
>>154527811Lame.
>>154528417That's because it's from a fucking Super Friends comic that was never canon until Seeley's horrendous Robins mini that nobody wants as canon either
>>154528440Bullshit Jimmy Olsen is great.
>>154528417Zamn
>>154517367Not really, though. The Wonder Girl's have always been Teen Titans characters first and foremost. Hell they are more often in their own solo books than in Diana's.Diana did have Etta Candy as a sidekick back in the golden age though>>154517402Not really. Sometimes writers feel obligated to include them, but they aren't made to support Wonder Woman, they're made to support other teams
>>154528417Why does Poison Ivy have a half naked woman running around her base?
>>154529873Poison Ivy was one of the last villains to be created for the 1966 Batman show, but never made it in, so she has themed henchmen in her early appearances.
>>154528417
>>154528229Cassie also has Devastation, also started a Diana villain but shifted to Cassie more over time Silver Swan Nessie was briefly obsessed with Cassie for becoming Wonder Girl instead of herYara has Eros as an asshole ex who brainwashed her
>>154517410I'm not one to complain much about anatomy but her shins are literally broken
she needs more ryona
>>154517511Locking characters to the Teen Titans is such a boneheaded decision. Who even reads Teen Titans? It's just a testing bed to see whose got potential to handle an ongoing.
>>154528075Imagine paying someone for sloppa.
Cassie may be in a weird spot but she'll never be the walking clusterfuck that is Donna Troy.
>>154517473I fucking loathe fat women trying to dress like Bettie Page or just generic 50s/60s fashion.
>>154517367All amazonians are made for rape
>>154517473Diana is like for fucks sake I could be at home with sexy fit women all trying to fuck me instead of slumming it with these hams
>>154532013the whole point of the Holiday Girls is to make Wonder Woman look beautiful and awesome in comparison.they're supposed to look like crap
>>154528057They should bring Drusilla back.
>>154528697The Robins comic is mostly bad, but I do like Jenny Wren's design.
>>154533537is she a rapist
>>154533568It was years ago that I read it, but I feel like her interactions with either Jason or Tim had an air of sexual menace
A boring ass sidekick in her already boring ass supporting cast to fight her boring ass rogues gallery.
>>154533705She’s sexy.
>>154531967Simone really went after the Amazons and WW in a weird and mean spirited way with that arc. The Secret Six didn't look great, either, since they did a lot shrugging and saying, "whatever, we're getting paid so it is fine" to the literal slave empire.
>>154517367Yeah her name is Donna and she has black hair I have no clue who this is
>>154534088who cares?they're terroristslet them be raped
>>154534114ok tourist
>>154533705Trve
>>154529798Wonder Girl was only created because they wanted to have a teen counterpart of Wonder Woman for Teen Titans and she didn't have one, but they didn't know this because there were stories of Diana as a teen at the time (like Superboy) and they thought it was a sidekick.
remember when cassie had a outfit out of a hentai cg back at new 52 when she was with the titans?there it was even a shitshow faggots threw at it because of one cover.
>>154529873Because she's based and having a half naked teen sidekick is queen shit.
>>154531967Amazons literally, canonically were made for bondage and they'd be a lot more popular if they appeared in BDSM situations more often.
>>154537786It was the hottest she ever looked too. They should go back to that design.
Every amazon should get raped weekly at the very least. If not by male villains or male heroes, then by their own "sisters" as a means of establishing who's the girlboss that week.
>>154540243Disgusting
>Sidekick>It's literally just WW in P2 colors. Suuuure.
As an honorary Amazon, Cassie should have the biggest hooters of her generation. About as big as Diana or Donna’s.
>>154540263It's disgusting that they're not raped.
>>154517367She looks like she's into anal
>>154540432I’m pretty sure anal and rimjobs are what Cassie excels at.
>>154531864I can't imagine putting my own name on my slop much less paywalling it
>>154537786No pic?
>>154541562This is not the outfit he speaks of.
Did anyone else not know Cassie existed until Young Justice? DC just never felt a need to put her in anything until then.
>>154541562Behold the controversy
>>154541819Because she was only in Wonder Woman before then, you fucking zoomer casual
>>154541847Why don’t artists nowadays draw her like this?
>>154538933She's a teen?
>>154539153yup
>>154541847it's a sexy costume but the ship of theseus has basically made Cassie an entirely different character by this point. It also just feels like Red Donna Troy.
>>154541819That's largely because of a plain lack of material(no Wonder Woman solo animated series for one) and the fact that DC animation is still largely run by boomers who barely like post-crisis and only got pushed into doing 2000's DC stuff
>>154542762All of the amazonians are a fucking joke. Only good for fucking, torturing, mindbreaking, raping, and breeding.
>>154542266it's not like she did anything in the comics either
>>154543097hey, she fought...the nazisand, uh, a cheetah woman a dozen timesthat and a giant onesome other nazi womanand dozens upon dozens of caricatures of misogynists who for some reason lead military organizations meant to annihilate women
>>154541847thats just a red version of troias outfit, like its lame but not really worth the controversy
>>154543252they were very upset about the breasts at the time,
>>154543252Cassie should use it again to acknowledge her growth into a college age heroine
>>154530053I'd honey suck her if you know what I mean
>>154543294Why are they scared of the female anatomy?Or are they jealous?
Will she get a sidekick?
>>154543718hopefully she'll be raped
>>154541886This thread just established that she wasn't
>>154543718We'll see what happens when Diana's month in Hades is over and Barbara gets out.
>>154543124I'm talking about Cassie, she didn't even do any of that
>>154543942oh then nothing
>>154543901Are Cheetah tongues the same as Domestic Cat tongues?Because that would be extremely painful.
>>154543960I suppose
>>154544664How many times have they fucked?
>>154541847That Raven costume was so fucking awful.
>>154543960Your a big gal
>>154544774Diana isn't a pedophile
>>154544664gross
>>154545474Diana and 2 frauds
>>154545474>Tom King says he's not going to ignore everything and "do his own thing" like every other WW writer>comes up with 3 OCs right off the bat
>>154528229Why create a new villain when you could just resurrect some forgotten villain from the Golden, Silver and Post& Crisis ages?
>>154547125let him, otherwise you get edgy Mouse Man
>>154517367>>154517410>>154519939So is this one of those situations where the core appeal of the character is that you get to watch a dorky geek turn into a giga stacy but since that all already happened like 30 years ago you're just left with a kind of boring character with less of an actual personality now that their arc is over and has left them with no where to go anymore?
>>154547319meant for >>154547024
>>154547320Former dork female turned giga stacy who is now college age and fuckable can have a great storyline.
>>154547077As much as I like butts, I've never really seen Diana as having a big one. taut and muscular sure but size should go to someone else.
>>154547335Oh I agree, and it's actually why this thread is interesting me because the concept sounds like a fun time and I kind of want to read some of her books now. But my point is more that it sounds like the sort of character that has their arc, and then the dumbass comic book writers that take over after the fact won't know what to do with her anymore. I imagine it being the case where they either sort of revert her character to her dork days over and over which kind of defeats the purpose of the story you spent time reading but allows the writers to do something even if it is the same thing over and over again, or just do what it looks like they did where they make her a hot piece of ass to show up in pinups, which comic books started feeling icky doing after like 2013. Or you could be a smart writer and have a character who's now "made it" as a super hot super heroine but still feels like the dorky teen on the inside with themes of imposter syndrome and not knowing the real self and having a duality between the mundane and the fantastical which is sort of the appeal of superheroes in the first place but that's above the paygrade of people writing stories for a Wonderwoman sidekick. Or maybe I'm just projecting onto a character I've never actually read or heard of before this thread idk. She IS super cute though.
>>154543042yes but only by other amazonians
Personally, I've always thought Donna made more sense as a villain. Otherwise her superpower is being redundant.
>>154547341Nah Diana should have both
>>154547341Well that pick is a taut muscular ass (which is the best kind). It's basically like Biel's ass.
>>154530201Devastation and Silver Swan continued to be Diana’s villains, and Eros is also Diana’s villains. Think harder or try to come up with an original villain for them.
>>154528229Since DC will never let Donna have her kid back as a civilian or as a hero they should retcon his death as the Titans of Myth having saved him to use as a weapon since Donna won’t stay with them. Lord Chaos was a clusterfuck of a storyline but most of why it is bad was all the time travel and shitty new characters, not really the idea of Robbie being a villain.
>>154547077>>154547725These 2 do not look similar at all, Diana's glutes and thighs look at least 2 times bigger.
>>154547534Lately they dialed down her body and have her be a tomboy again which is a step back for her character.
>>154547541nopethey're getting raped and bred by humans
>>154548068Wrong
>>154547725that doesn't look anything like the pic you're talking about
>>154547725>Biel's ass.those were the days
>>154547725It's nice but I don't think that's the type of ass Benes give Diana
>>154547125It is my understanding that writers get royalties for creating new characters.
>>154548186That's a damn good picture
>>154548209whoops *gave
Blonde Wonder Woman fails the vibe check for some reason.
>>154548284Raven hair + blue eyes is just too good
>>154547987>>154548183>>154548209Don't be fooled by the perspective and dramatic shading, Diana's ass here is TIGHT.Also those beach shots are not Biel at her most taut, look at her definition in Blade Trinity, or the size she has in I Now Pronounce You Chuck & Larry or Cellular, it's pretty damn close.
>>154547574That's why DC should've committed to Coeus and Phoebe being her parents instead of having some gay guy abandon her as a baby.She had more powers when she was connected to Titans of Myth like generic photon blasts, cold & darkness manipulation, and forcefields.
>>154548405>>154548248
>>154547667Trvth Nvke
>>154548520She’s still connected to Titans of Myth in some way
>>154548665spankable
>>154549320brandable
>>154549306I want an actual connection and story, not writers just having her name drop the group once in their run and call it a day.
>>154517367I remember when WW was WW, before fleashpoint
Wondergirls
>>154549850Who rapes who?
>>154549918erm they have consensual sex, actually
>>154549918Why are you like this?
Booba
Vampire Wonder Woman, from DCeased, was the hottest the character has ever been.
>>154545474Will the daughter stay in the future or will she stay in the present alongside her baby self?
>>154550786This was from DC vs Vampires, not DCeased, but yes. This art is pure sexo
>>154551465My mistake
>>154551465Actually drawn by a Japanese porn artist.
>>154551597Noice!!
Okay /co/, how would you rewrite the Wonderfamily into something more coherent?
>>154544804Needs more bird and redder lipstick
>>154551682Wonder Family is one of the most coherent DC superhero families compared to everyone else.See pic. Just add Nubia to 2nd generation.
>>154551777Natasha Irons should be 4th Titan generation under the Super family.
>>154551605The artist is named Homare is a huge westaboo so his Twitter feed is filled with sexy western comic characters like Vampirella, Red Sonja and Wonder Woman
>>154552386Shit, I meant other DC characters besides Wonder Woman
>>154551777No way that Cass and Steph are the same generation as Duke.
>>154552514Similar ages
>>154552514Kon doesn’t belong there
>>154552668hes like 5 years younger then both of them
>>154553135It’s like 2 years actually
>>154552386I love his style. It is imo the perfect blend of western comic and japanese manga
>>154551682Hippolyta has a bunch of daughters who Diana turns into sidekicks
>>154552514Conner is with the wrong Cassie
>>154517367Why doesn’t main universe Cassie use the costume?
>>154555797look at her faceshe's begging for an ass raping
>>154556644Yummy
>>154556644TUMMY
>>154517402Honestly, Diana herself may be the only Wonder Girl to originate from her own book. Even Donna only became Donna after the fact because Haney didn't know she was just "Diana as a Teen and the occasional run of Amazonian Time Travel."
>>154556644Nice Donna double D’s
>>154555881but your dick isn't big enough to get past her cheeks...
>>154558273t. micropenis haverover six inches and thick here, baby
>>154517473Am I crazy for saying Etta is the obvious endgame ship for Diana over Steve or Barbara?
>>154558025Cassie originated from the Wonder Woman book
>>154547341She should not be muscular
>>154544774Diana showed her everything Hippolyta taught her about sex.
>>154550786based
How would you make Wonder Woman a lesbian without the whole thing coming across as fanservicey /co/?
>>154560609you can'tlesbians aren't real in the first place
>>154560609Idk, how would you?
>>154560609ummm let Io fuck her doggystyle with a strap-on
>>154560609Amazon orgy revealed as a tradition
>>154547869Robbie can give Donna lots of doubts, with her not knowing he's really her son still alive but having a suspicion he's familiar yet not being able to fully prove it as she fights him.
Terry Long and his daughter dying not by a car accident in a storm but because Darkseid wanted Robert, is kind of funny.
>>154556644Mesmerizing
>>154560609Why would you even want such a dumb thing? The whole purpose of lesbos in a comic book IS fanservice opportunity. If you don't make use of that you shouldn't have lesbos.
>>154562857Jennifer just didn't have the worthy power
>>154564465Still could have been kidnapped and raised to be Darkseid’s concubine.
>>154560609I wouldn't, yuri is for trannies.
>>154565479diana is a fag tho
>>154560609I wouldn't.
>>154560609Didn't Rucka confirm that he was writing them as amicable exes or something on LCG?
>>154567525Lizzy looks retarded
>>154566403mr identifies as a lesbian?
>>154565457This is very pretty art
>>154555797>>154555881Tfw you ass rape Wonder Woman and realize she's moaning and bouncing against your cock...
>>154559768Diana being a pillow princess for a night while Donna, Cassie and Yara take turns eating her out
>>154569446ah mindbreak
>>154570738Diana is perfect for it
>>154565789>fucks a man for nearly a century>erm actually she's a dyke
>>154570973yup >>154571004never underestimate an absolute fucking moron, man
Diana should let Steve use each of the Wonder Girls and eventually her own mother
>>154565789Nah that's you, bud.
>>154566403Didn't Io end up with somebody else?
>>154545474Sex with all three of them
what if Steve actually became Captain Wonder but as a good guy? twitter would implode
>>154571448Thats retarded even for this board anon
>>154551682Have Diana and Steve get married and make Donna and Cassie their daughters.
>>154571039it's true tho? she lezzed out with at least 3 random amazons before meeting steve
Too much Greek stuff ruined Wonder Woman.
>>154572934not like she has anything else
>>154572937not after too much greek stuff ruined wonder woman
>>154573528cope
>>154571072Yes. She’s with Nubia now.
>>154569461>Diana being a pillow princessIsn't she more of a Stone?
>>154560609She's canonically eaten more pussy than a feral rottweiler.
>>154573754more like wonder slut
>>154573744I don't see it. If you told me that was Artemis I'd buy it.>>154573754Amazons are all perverts. They knew Diana since she was a wee wonder.
>>154573754
>>154573972the lettering of that book was so trash
>>154573972>do I want to break this chick's heart and not get any amazon pussy that has not been defiled by men's filthy cocks or do I want to travel to man's world and spend years being defiled by men's filthy cocks? decisions decisions
Where do you stand on Tomboy erasure /co/?
>>154574063If she's still a sporty fem it works for me. Io and Artemis are the full tomboys of the Amazons.
>>154573754Haven't they been on Themyscira for like two thousand years? Why would any of them be thirsting after Diana as if she's untouchable, they should be constantly having orgies or swapping between each other. Sex for Amazonians should be like scheduling a massage, "are you free tomorrow at three?"Also constantly referring to each other as "sisters" means that all their sex is incest roleplay.
>>154574186Some writers give Diana an air of having lived for centuries or longer, some write her as if she's only been around for less than a handful of decades. She's also practically a goddess when it comes to looks so it makes sense that a bunch of amazons are too intimidated to even look her way for too long. Besides Diana exclusively fucks the stacies and gigastacies of Themyscira not the average plain jane homely Amazon. You're right about the incest roleplay though there are likely very few actual mothers and daughters or siblings on the island so lots of the Amazons blend their sisterhood with sex and get extra pussy tingles when they realize they really enjoy incestuous fantasies.
>>154574063Normal lifecycle for most girls.
>>154574263Insane sexual tension here
>>154574263Why did they flatten her boobs?She’s suppose to be 19 here. If anything her boobs should be higher like this >>154541847
>>154560609>>154573754Wonder Woman shouldn't be a lesbian nor should any of the Amazons. Amazons were always portrayed as straight in Greek mythology.
>>154574063>Girl starts to notice boys>Starts to dress more feminineDo the critics not understand this?
>>154574944It’s typical coming of age story for heterosexual girls.But of course, some people who won’t be named, do not like that.
>>154574944the dykes on twitter and reddit really fucking hate this
>>154560609How would we make Wonder Girl a lesbian without the whole thing coming across as fanservicey /co/?
>>154575305We don't, cause making her a dyke would be fucking lame.
>>154575305Sexo
>>154572937It was mostly forgotten thanks to the Greek shit being pushed (which failed anyway so people still don't care about her)
>>154543252Feminists throwing a fit over a woman being attractive? I'm shocked
>>154574816Well good thing Diana isn't a lesbian, she's a bi-slut
>>154577910Kek
>>154542762This guy has a great artstyle but he seems intent on not using it for anything besides jokes
>>154574944I think the problem is she became really boring and rudderless after this too
>>154580015>he seems intent on not using it for anything besides jokesThe guy did make a really awesome porn comic (Sunstone), and has done some sexy art of superhero characters, but I think now that he works with DC in an official capacity he can't do much.
>>154575305>committing image to memory.This line is even better when you consider that from their perspective they can see right up Supergirl's skirt and see her white panties barely covering that tight ass.
>>154577868SHE HASNOTHINGELSE
>>154581261She has a lot else
Who is the sluttiest out of Diana, Hippolyta, Donna, Cassie, Yara, Nubia, Artemis? Who is the kinkiest?
>>154581261She has the stupid star and stripes bullshit and the cowboy stripper lasso, doesn't she?
>>154581261Wrong. She has the traditional superhero stuff from before Perez.
>>154520516Technically she already does,but is stuck in Sandman series and I guess retconned in the tve series to not be her daughter anymore
>>154584789cope
>>154528229>ThreadweaverWonder Girl tried to assist Diana in finding a cure for Cheetah (I'm no comic expert), using chatgpt or ai to complete.... Heiroglyphics? Or crowd sourcing solving the whatever with tiktok or social media. It almost works, but then fate or whatever got pissed off, and the formula pulsed thru everybody involved thru social media, and coagulated to the one with the most followers, which was her friend or crush, which transformed them into the instrument of fate. Turns out Wonder Woman is always meant to be alone. And the Thread Weaver's mission is to correct the "timeline" and try to erase Wonder Girl. They play with strings of fate in their hands, and often put Wonder Girl in bondage.I don't knowCould possibly be a boy, for the sexual tension appeal
>>154584871Nah its true. Cheetah for example is pre Perez
>>154572934I did not like that one run where the Greek gods have modern fashion but ugly.
>>154585009I memory holed that
>>154584812Lyta was retcon away her daughter since 1986.
>>154583473Sluttiest is Donna. Kinkiest is Diana.
>>154585009which one?
is this the wonder woman general?
>>154586681
>>154585672But she's still her daughter in 2002. And Superman made everything canon again 2021
>>154586676If I remember, the run by the guy that starts with A , azaram or something
So what's everyone's favorite look for Cassie?
>>154586681>>154586684Are these pages not AI?
It's a good thing Lyta Trevor has her own identity. We can't just have multiple Wonder girls.Fury is an awesome name
>>154587295A lot of Cassiefags insist she should take the Fury name as hers. I'm afraid eventually some writer will comes across that opinion on twitter and make it canon.
>>154587517Oh hell no! I doubt the Wonder Woman mythos would ever change for that to happen where Cassie gets older. I see the Trinity thing as very temporarily. She will be forgotten and not take on the Wonder Girl mantel
>>154587517just because she's blonde (they are that superficial)
>>1545868643 or bottom left
>>154586864
>>154587131they are edited AI
dont read ww, but this panel really makes me diamonds
>>154587649Trinity is going to evaporate from all human memory the second King is off of the book.
>>154586721Where's the proof? I need a pic nao of Wonder Woman and Trevor
>>154589555This. I don't see anyone else wanting to use her for anything.
>>154587131Why is the TV show not the basis for Wonder Woman? Its easily the best version of the character
>>154587785This but put a cowboy hat on her too.
>>154590836moments before mindbreaking anal rape
I hope this is a good place to ask, but what's a good entry point to start reading regular WW comics? I've picked up absolute wonder woman and i love it, i like the character a lot, what run do i go to for quaintestial WW experience?
>>154591831no respect
>>154592613Man I gotta rematch this
>>154594203Zamn!
>>154585821Donna has among the lowest bodycounts of any woman in DC
>>154594203titty bondage!
>>154552950If it's the Tim Drake era then him and Kon should still be best friends. Kon went to hang out with the bat kids in gotham pretty often during that time.
>>154594840Slutty is a mindset anon
>>154592571George Perez run or the original Marston run
>>154591831It's cool but Perez and Marston mog, those 2 should be the basis
>>154596929No one seems to give a shit about Perez outside of comic circles much less Marston
>>154597069You think people give a shit about the show either? If were going off what people give a shit about the basis for Diana should be AWW.
>>154597209They absolutely do. Its the most famous version of the character and was for ages until the DCAU and DCEU versions with the latter being irrelevant now thanks to WW84 being hated. The comic specific version has never been relevant outside of Diana herself being a feminist icon.
>>154597258The DCAU and AWW are 100% more popular than the show currently.
>>154597348AWW will fade away as Wondy comics often do. Especially since it probably wont get an adaption. The show has loads of nostalgia to milk too.
>>154517367She's FAR better looking than HAGana
>>154597378Not really, I want to watch WW84 in theaters and I don't think anybody reacted when Lynda Carter made a cameo. Most people who have nostalgia for the show probably don't consume cape media anymore. Trying to act like AWW isn't more popular with the average superhero fan is retarded.
>>154597445I was talking about general audiences. Good WW books don't stay relevant for very long barring Perez & Vol 2 more generally as the default option for reading anything WW.
>>154597258It's only in /co/ where ive seen and heard about the WW show, otherwise the prominent versions that ive been shown through youtube and news, outside of the DCEU, is the version from DCAU and the one from Injustice.
>>154597461Before the movie any real world WW stuff was just merch from the show or used the default comic post crisis version. The injustice one was definitely prominent in the 2010s but is less so now.
>>154597458AWW IS more popular among general audiences. Have you seen how popular it is on social media platforms? Those comic recap accounts regularly pull 100K+ likes on YT and TikTok just by giving a shitty summary of every new issue
>>154597494>Have you seen how popular it is on social media platforms?No.
>>154596929
>>154597209>>154597494as usual /co/ is completely out of touch with realitymost people don't even know absolute ww existshttps://youtu.be/5Rmejpi574w?is=PWZv3LPEnNp8e8xt
>>154596929Perez won't be relevant once people catch on how much of a creep he was
>>154586721Wrong
>>154599358Nobody is going back to read old comics in the numbers necessary to even cause internet trouble.
>>154596513Okay
>>154599358What's the problem with this exactly
Sidekicks? WW herself doesn't get the respect and it's a shame cause she's peak!
>>154599358I've already seen people say some of his stuff is already dated.
>>154599255>46K views after 3 weeks
>>154599255>>154602416>Search up AWW on TikTok and one of the first results is a 2 day old video with 30K likes and 100K+ views
>>154602416>>154602456>comic book tiktok videosmore irrelevant than comic books
>>154602531Have some hope anon
>>154602456Supergirl must have been a success
>>154602564Tbh it was just an generic superhero movie, unfortunately they blasted so much money on it
>>154602456>2.7 million views in 2 days>12 million households per episodezoomers lost
>>154602632>2 million views>9k likes
Absolutefags are the worst, they really believe these fads have never happened before
>>154602818Just happy WW is getting some cool stuff, anon
>twitter friendly revamp of New 52 is totes the most iconic Wonder Woman everhas it even escaped the comics? isn't martian manhunter currently overselling it?
>>154602241Eh people have been saying that for years, it's bound to happen with age, still good, still worth reading regardless
>>154602818For Diana? No. She's never had a book get this popular even among normies
>>154593341yes
>arguing about numbers I'm just happy to see more people pick up Wonder Woman
>>154603028I don't think normies is the right word
She'd be more popular if DC didn't shoot every fucking WW project at the back of it's head before it sees the light of day, one good video game would do wonders.
>>154603028normies don't read comics, dumbassalso her sales averaged 200k copies from the 60s to the 80s
>>154603120That only happens because DC isn't consistent with her in the comics. She's also way more political then Superman and Batman which makes WB and DC more hesitant.
>>154603121nta but didn't her comics fall off massively in sales from the late 50's to to mid 80's?
/co/ is the only place worth discussing Wondie.took one look at the ww subreddit and it's a pseudo-feminist riddled hellhole.
>>154603448isn't that her target audience?
>>154603362maybe, still a lot more than nowadaysnot even close to the golden age but we don't have info
>>154603120>one good video game would do wonders.It's not possible to make a good Wonder Woman game without rewriting her annoying feminist personality and most of her backstory.
>>154603606Yes it is
>>154603228>She's also way more political then Superman and BatmanThere is no reason why she has to be.>>154603606Then don't have her be a feminist and scrap that angle altogether. Wonder Woman can easily be written without any of the political and feminist baggage people attach to her.
>>154603876she's a woman from a women-only societychuds only choose to ignore that when something about her ends up being popular so they have no argument
>>154603606What's wrong with her backstory?
>>154603898So? That's not inherently political or feminist unless one specifically writes it to be so. Greek mythology was full of male-only and female-only societies. The Amazons routinely fought alongside men in several wars and they would often choose the strongest and most valiant to be their mates in order father their children; if they bore a son they were given to the father while the daughters were kept and raised as Amazons. They even had male counterparts called the Gargareans they would frequently do this with. In Greek myths the Amazons extolled virtues that most men would as well such as honor, valor, strength, brotherhood (in their case sisterhood), and justice. Wonder Woman can easily be written as someone from a female only society in a way that that is aspirational to mainstream audiences regardless of gender.
>>154604266>That's not inherently political or feministyes it is
>>154517367I never forgot <3
>>154528057Did people in the 1960s not recognize when women didn't lift? These girls clearly don't lift, they're just thin.
>>154528417>Sidekick looks exactly like youLiterally what is the point?
>>154531967For villains, comic book baddies never 1. rape 2. curse3. use the n word
>>154541847I have never bothered to read the New 52 TT because Raven Griffith is just ridiculous.It also probably unironically exists somewhere on Deviantart.
How buff should Cassie ideally be?
>>154574263So she says half of that entire page just during the "sitting down" animation.Imagine actually watching that.
>>154603606But her personality is sweet, caring, nice and protective, sure there are flaws but Diana is cute, CUTE!
>>154607662Buff enough
>>154603606What's wrong with that? Diana is chill so that doesn't matter at the end of the day
>>154603606>It's not possible to make a good Wonder Woman gameIt easily is, make it an action game where you unlock various mythical weapons and fight monsters and sear terrorists leading up to the final confirmation with Ares and/or his sons, give Diana some magical abilities and skill trees based on different greek gods for replayability, make sure the combat is chonky and impactful and feels good and give her a cool design, easy, as for personality if you're scared of politics just make her base WW who's caring and protective, she shouldn't be hard to make endearing for the player to like.
>>154603876>There is no reason why she has to be. Blame her creator and feminist groups then. They made it almost impossible to avoid
>>154610115wondy was tainted from the onset, yes
>muh feminism Talking like she's an insufferable girlboss when in actuality she's pretty cool and only times this becomes a problem is when writers actively make it so
>>154610156The issue is writers keep harping on about it. They see it as too attached to Wondy herself. To erase or make it less important looks like you're saying>this guy hates feminism and is diluting it from the iconic feminist characterThats a public relations nightmare and makes dealing with it a pain in the ass regardless of which side you're on.
Hear me out stellar blade but Wonder Woman
Just mod her into the game
>>154547534Like all good 90s ideas, Geoff Johns killed it by accident and didn't care.When he got assigned Teen Titans, he wanted a hot blonde gf for his self-insert retcon of Connor, itself based on a fan theory he pestered the Superman office with when he was in college. So he jumped Cassie jumped to the end of her story where she's figured out offscreen how to navigate from "weird fangirl" to "gigastacy demigoddess." You liked Percy Jackson, Geoff, we get it.Now we can't go back and tell the story of how she ditched the wig and learned to dress, because it feels like a regression, as >>154548052 points out. Furthermore, the people who would know how to tell the story of a sad geek in the 90s coming out of her shell have spent their creative juice on other stuff.
>>154610697>Absolute Wonder Girl>we've established that, even if the word "amazon" is forbidden and the gods retconned them away, that Diana is an atavistic form of mythological-warrior-lady metahuman.>Cassie is a sad lonely fangirl on the same wavelength as Barbara: "Who cares if the gods destroy my life, the ordinary world didn't give me anything to work with! Bring it on!">doesn't have friends or a connection to Diana to externalize it>decides that amazons as a concept should exist>goes on mythological adventures to re-create the concept from first principles>becomes a workout/therapy group that fights monsters on weekends and loot their supernatural relics>Donna and Yara can be other normie girls she recruits
>>154596767Went with Perez and I enjoy the worldbuilding and Diana's characterisation a lot, thank you anon! I've also picked up dead earth series and historia.
>>154609961Yeah I dunno what anon was smoking with that comment. Just do a God of War, heck wasn't like the original premise of that series about how the guy manages to overcome Ares in the end?
>>154611054wonder MILK
>>154607702hopefully nothing with movement will be written by Tom King
Why does Tom king sell so well for a comicbook writer?
>>154607662That right there is IT
>>154612272CIA
>>154612272inflated sales numbers
>>154612272I don't know dude, I saw Wonder Woman #34 way down the rank on the Top 100
>>154613162Tbh I was disingenuous his Wonder Woman is not doing well more like in general
>>154599358Heracles crushes Amazon pussy on the daily i don't see the problem he's based like that
>>154609961Ares is boring, make the main villain Dr. Psycho or something
>>154614847Ares is easier to do but bringing a more niche villain could be pretty good
>>154612272Why is he even writing Wonder Woman
>>154560609The only way is making them ugly, because two hot women kissing will always be fanservice
>>154612272He's a CIA plant. The fact that people can't see shit like that after the Epstein files is mind-boggling to me.
>>154517367She’s so pretty
>>154616455so what you're telling us is he's a russian agent???
>>154607662Depends on her age. I always thought she was a teenager, so probably fit but not very buff, like a cheerleader. But if she’s an adult, then as thicc as Diana
>>154612272It's all in the name :)
>>154617291Is someone just ripping off his style or is Adam Hughes using AI now?
>>154517402no
>>154618661it just looks upscaled
>>154619225I did some digging, the original was a convention sketch Hughes did, the colours were by a guy using AI tools that gives it that weird AI smearing look for the details.
Oh wow this thread is still aloie
I'm kinda confused, there's another Lyta Trevor? A middle child of three of Diana's kids. And one of the. Is Hunter?
>>154621419
>>154621250I was just watching that today. Why is everyone in that movie so handsome?
>>154621435Edited the image with a more appropriate symbol on the chest.
>>154621480lol why not, they're superhumans
>>154621419Who's Hunter?
sex with cassie
>>154611054cute birbs
>>154602884Why is Lego WW not changing clothes?
>>154625727it's pre-historic Wonder Woman before the spin
>>154625727She is, look closer.
>>154610697Yeah, Johns even said he didn't hate Wonder Girl but "didn't get her" so he found a way he could understand her. Of course he, McKeever, and others after only made her detractors on ComicBloc yelling for her to be raped to death, retconned into a black woman so she could be killed faster, and other jeers.
>>154625801Ah, you're right, Going from similar WW costume to another very similar one threw me off.
>>154621250Man these animated movies always give her great fight scenes
>>154541847What happened to Bunker?
>>154624993
I watched Bloodlines last night and there was a surprising amount of Diana butt shots
>>154628841Hot
>>154621565Lmao! Very save worthy
>>154517367Wonderboy should be her sidekick numbero uno.