Men Only Want One Thing EditionPrevious thread: >>154503398
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>>154526613Now this. This is beautiful.
How did Vivi manage to do the opposite of what she intended with Adam? She tried to make him such a hatesink that it basically overflowed and made him popular.
Reminder.
>>154526756So stupid that even without Lilith chilling and sunbathing in Heaven it breaks your suspension of disbelief.
>>154526756honestly i'm just impressed that he had the anatomical knowledge to know exactly where the uterus was. hard confirmation that adam has studied women's anatomy well enough to know exactly where the clit is and that women do not in fact pee from the vagina or give birth through the pee hole.
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>>154526756>>154526799Meanwhile what actually is going on.
>>154526752listening to the audio commentary for s1 implies otherwise. she specifically had storyboards redone to make sure everyone could see that in his final moments, he smiled at lute. she's constantly calling guitarspear cute too. she's even been liking 'eve as a badass actually' art recently along with cute flowertunes art in general. vivziepop is not the enemy - she is our most underappreciated soldier. the one on the commentary who loves the vees (and valentino the most) and hates adam is another story.
Lute isn't Eve. Eve's canon backstory coming through. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtP6K52eW24
>>154526851Many are saying this>>154526879>the one on the commentary who loves the vees (and valentino the most) and hates adam is another story.Typical fujo. The abusive rapist is kawaii uwu because it's male-on-male violence, whereas the fratbro giving his female friend shit in a joking manner is irredeemable.>>154526882>Headcanon Alert
>>154526882You're new here aren't you?
>>154526906MatPat is sadly the opposite of new
>>154526902Save the Headcanon Alert for MatPat. Pretty sure this just a new guy who subscribes to Eve is Roo.
>>154526908The video is MatPat theory supportive? Didn't bother watching it since it seems some classic Eve is Roo.
>>154526912>>154526922What's the difference?
>>154526928MatPat would rather eat shit then admit Roo is Eve. The guy is dead set on Lilith=Eve and he would never accept anything else because it contradicts his insane fanfic. He usually implies Roo is some creature who isn't Eve but a separate character who gives her powers.
>>154526906>>154526912I thought the way I posted a terrible AI video would give the jig away but apparently no.
>>154526882>Lucifer claimed Eve had no free will before the Apple>Eve acts upon the gift given to her till she stops>Roo hijacks the body easily and completely because Eve never had a real will in the first placeThis is so freaky to me.
>>154526978i kinda love how the AI gets so painfully close but can never match the edge of hazbin, despite its obvious best efforts. it can't fight the desire to make everyone proportional and generically perfect. AI could NEVER make our best chunky boy adam.
>>154526951Woah Buddy. Lilith Eve is the threat to your insane fanfic that has a lot of weird torture porn elements on Lute and Abel. I go with what the merch and official release implies about Lilith, and it’s that Eve is most likely her true and natural form. And some character will have Lilith as her name soon, and an old poster Viv made that fits into that name also happens to have an appearance similar to Eve.
>>154527164> Lilith as herLillith
>>154527132It makes everyone look like Monster High dolls.
>>154527132Honestly, it just depends on the effort and if you know how to prompt.
>>154527389Now generate him lactating.
>>154527164See perfect example of MatPat. You should be able to spot him a mile away from his specific kind of retardation.
>>154527400Nah but here, big tits Charlie. (I just flipped the styles)
>>154527409Now big tits Adam
>>154527405The retardation of going with official released content?
>>154527418Like the bug thing
>>154527418You mean the card that says Lilith with no extra L? You mean official content like interviews where they specifically admitted that beach Lilith is the real Lilith and we ain't getting any character swaps? Your shit got debunked a while ago MatPat. You cling to the same old information which is no longer valid because you are retarded.
>>154527425The bug thing actually explains why a heaven built by a misogynist God would have a female only army.
>>154527473Mental illness
>>154527454>The card doesn’t have the extra LCause Lillith is supposed to be a post twist reveal name. Made in a time when this twist was going to be revealed in season 2 till Vox filler came in.> like interviews where they specifically admitted that beach Lilith is the real Lilith and we ain't getting any character swaps?Lillith is literally the canon name of the character and she’s a twist character.And what Viv said about swaps and secret identities is that if a character like Lute doesn’t ever look like Eve once, then she is highly unlikely to be Eve. Which is unlike the Lillith situation in which she has resembled Eve nigh perfectly in two seperate appearances.
>>154527518Yeah dude the secret is Lillith but she's actually named Lilith in merch and stuff because using Lillith will give it away despite making absolutely no sense. How does one achieve this level of delusional stupidity?
>>154527544Lillith is a name that will only be shown once there is an Eve identity reveal by said character.Like how Vaggi was only revealed at the end of season 2.
>>154527479No counterpoints?
>>154527416big tits LACTATING adam.
>>154527580Counterpoint is reality
MatPat if you banned Looty because you're a massive loser with a ego the size of China you are genuinely a cunt.
>>154527590The reality that heavily organized female colonies are made up heavily of ants, wasps, hornets, and bees with only a small portion of males meant to mate with the Queen for life?
This is what Roo!Eve truthers actually believe.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-7uTdxrwKk
>>154527652That Zestial is cursed
>>154527610Are you Looty?
>>154527617adam is my queen and i want to mate with him.
>>154527742Lute...
>>154527713Nope. Pretty sure Looty got banned after MatPat mass rep them.
>>154527742Eve
>>154527774I am pretty sure it was the lurkers that did it.
>>154527785I know he has someone who white knights for him weirdly enough.
I can't believe Lute only shows up in AI radioappleverse to job to Lilith. Cringe
>>154527794Who
>>154527804Lute solos Lilith. She's empowered by the strange hatred women have for one another.
>>154527834Lute is backed up by a good God
>>154527823Idk. Some guy. He's not super noticeable since he mostly just lurks.
>>154527846Well. The threads are pretty boring.
>>154527845Fuck off MatPat. Nobody wants to deal with you. Go bother the /trash/ thread.
>>154527834She's backed up by willpower which Lilith lacks since she doesn't know what she wants anymore.
At least a Roo!Eve who still loves Adam could be interesting. One who always loved Lucifer instead? Damn that's a one way ticket to the flattest most villainised female character you ever saw.
>>154527766>>154527783i want him BENT and SPREAD and LOVING IT.
>>154527901MAKE HIM LACTATE
>>154527898Lilith Eve is basically a Lucifer tsundere.
>>154527917MatPat stop with the fetish shit it's genuinely creepy.
When Abel and Lute!Eve inevitably team up…>Wouldn’t it be nice if were older,>then we wouldn’t have to wait so long.
>>154527998I don't get it. Explain the joke to me.
>>154527999Holy trips of feeding milk to matpat.
>>154528006Meant to reply to the Adam milk post only to accidentally reply to MatPat. My sleep deprivation is affecting me.
>>154528034You know what will help overcome your sleep deprivation? Suckling from Adam.
>>154527911Sorry for the delay.
luv me this psycho bitch
>>154528053BOTTOMS UP EVERYONE
>>154528071Adam
Lute!Eve and Abel
>>154528164He doesn't have big cheeks so he doesn't have a lot of testosterone. Very much like Abel. Nice.
>>154528164There’s gotta be a lot of wholesome Momma and Son fanart of these two.I am not one of those people:>Lute!Eve: “Jam a bastard in it, you crap!” (Smacks Abel upside the head)https://youtu.be/nMgv86PZKa0?is=9e6Tr4UwqMce__cC
>>154528224This seems like a kink at this point.
>>154528248I'm pretty sure after the reveal it's probably gonna be one of the more popular incest ships. A lot of Oedipus complex and mommy fetish stuff with this one.
>>154528266nah i think lucifer/charlie has that niche locked in at this point.
>>154528266There's already a lot of sketchy Adam x Abel porn so expect that to become threesomes.
>>154528224“The important thing is we’re a family.”“NOT IT’S NOT!” Alright, now that alone feels like a canon interaction.>>154528164Aww. I can see fanart of this with their cat plushies.
>>154528284I love these stupid ass Chinese sweatshop toys
Abel’s name means breath and he’s the Head Exorcist
Another tip for you faggots, don't ever refer to him as matpat that's a name he gave himself to seem more dignified, the hhg retards started calling him kikerat, so either use that or you lot can come up with something yourself like idk bugfucker, lilithcuck or something
Bugcuck
>>154528648That has a lovely ring to it
At this point, this "MatPat" is more the influential troll then the people arguing against "him"
>>154528648New name for MatPat? I like it. Fits him much better. Should put it as a announcement for the next thread so everyone is up to date.
>>154528266> Abel: “Someday, I hope to marry a woman like her…”> Sera: (pinches her non-existent sinus) “Abel, what have we talked about sharing our intrusive thoughts?”
>>154528768He's a genuine schizophrenic. Like the dude is actually delusional. If he was doing it for shits and giggles it would be understandable. But no he's just a byproduct of autism in a world that does not give them the proper care so we end up with specimens like him.
https://x.com/didiyaoyao/status/2073824089119064236?s=46
>>154528814Cute rib wife
>>154528814Nice
>>154528798For what?
>>154528814the real reason we haven't see lilith's eyes in heaven yet is because the eyeliner would instantly give the game away. eve looks like lilith, but huh hey look at that, lute has the same eye shape...
>>154528859We never see Adam and Lute's maskless faces on screen at the same time.
It’s all in the eyes (1/2)
>>154528888 (2/2)
>>154528888>>154528898There is nothing here.
>>154528888>>154528898Both were made with Adam finding them breedable in mind
>>154528888>>154528898And Lute's horned helmet is closest to Lilith's horns.
>>154528944I would actually describe Lute’s appearance being a mix of Lilith and Eve but with way straighter hair.
>>154527652Roo looks like a Danny Phantom villain in that art style
>>154528772Obviously
>>154528921You are blind in both spirit and body
Can someone explain this whole Lute and Eve thing? Because from my perspective as a casual non-schizo viewer who watched Season 2 back in November and then moved on with my life, I have no clue what the fuck any you people are talking about. As far as I recall, Lute just seems to be a loyal second in command with feelings for her boss she never got to express. It didn't seem to be anything more complicated than that to me. Wouldn't a bunch of other hackneyed bullshit have to happen for a twist like that to make sense? Actually why does Eve have to be anybody? Can't she just not have been introduced yet?
This show sucks.
>>154529084TLDR>Eve has apparently already been introduced and we don't know it>Lute is 'not who you think she is', is confirmed to make it all the way to Season 5 and has a plot twist coming 'that will leave you with a lovely open mouth gasp' according to her VA>Lute has a ton of trauma according to VA>Lute's VA interacted with the theory leaving a smiling devil emoji and was then made to delete the post>Visual similarities to both Adam and Lilith>Comes with a lot of imagery connecting her to Adam physically (bear in mind Eve is his rib) and spiritually:>Grafts Adam's halo to her arm>Calls herself his right hand, calls him 'the only soul who ever completed her'>Is ALWAYS covered in blood and in season2 it's Adam's blood, is smaller, is bleached bone white>Viv never likes Lute/Abel shipping fanart on her bluesky despite likign a ton of Lute rarepairs including random ones like Vox/Lute; but she does like art on memes showing Abel and Lute having a mother and son dynamicThere is more but this is off the top of my head.
>>154529084They’re just focused on Lute Eve because of the hype and their hatred for Lilith Eve. The hows and whys don’t really matter.
>>154529066Shut up Bugcuck.
>>154529168>vivzie has liked tweets hoping eve hits people with hammers that were criticising people who hope she's not evil >lute has been described as full of feminine rage and is the angriest character vivzie's ever made. >conspicuous lack of VA hype for eve despite both roo and lilith being hyped up, implying she's someone already shown. but why would you get someone with jessica vosk's talent in for a bit part?
>>154529171Ignore Bugcuck over here. He's salty his NTR fanfic isn't going to be canon.
>>154529168>>154529216Huh. Ok. Thanks Anon. Some of those points seem a little shaky to me, but it does paint a clear picture that something up with Lute. That's cool. I liked her song and hope she gets to kill everyone.
>>154529216>>154529266>Viv has said she wants to address the Eden story from a feminist perspective with particular focus on how Eve is always blamed for everything>Lute is continuously beaten down and spoken over by pretty much everyone except Adam; Viv has said Lute needs plenty of time to cook before she can be fully unleashed>Her Adam hallucination never addresses her by name>It makes a snarky comment about her menstruating which is a curse placed on Eve in folklore>"I never got to tell you" could be a love confession orrr it could be a confession that she's Eve (and also a love confession)The working theory is that if she's Eve then Adam doesn't know about it (but he might suspect it as he's dying) and this is a curse placed upon her by Heaven as penance for Original Sin.
>>154529171>projecting seethe
>>154529304we've also had vivziepop state that adam was the only person who supported lute and listened to her.
>>154529266The alternative is Lute being an insect angel similar to wasps and hornets with her hair being antennas. With inspirations being the other mother from coraline, having a very similar hair style as Lute, and tak from invader zim, who has a voice, military personality, and a goth girl look. Insect women that disguise themselves as humans.
>>154529531This is the schizophrenic alternative for people who were dropped on the head as a baby by the way.
>>154529562I don’t know why anyone is even against Adam and Lute meeting each for the first time because Adam was assigned to be a head exorcist.
>>154529531Bugcuck that's just your fanfic that's brought on by your NTR fetish. You believe Zestial is Cain with no proof. You think Eve is pretending to be Lilith and the big twist is that she changed her name to Lillith (added and extra L). You also believe Abel is bloodthirsty and a out for revenge nephilim ( somehow he's Lucifer son despite making no sense) ignoring the fact he was literally pissing his pants in the show from the thought of going down to hell. You don't watch the show. We know that.
>>154529615Nobody believes you Bugcuck. You cried wolf and now you face the consequences.
>>154529673Sounds like mindless screaming to me.
>>154529763Keep the cope going Bugcuck.
thinking about guitarprincess and how annoyed adam would be in an AU where someone grabbed niffty before she could stab him so he lived, forever knowing that charlie's the only reason why. so now he's her problem.
Is Charlie...mentally retarded?Not even joking. It feels like she has few planks, bolts and entire sections missing because nobody can't be that dumb.Pilot Charlie > Season 1 Carlie > Season 2 Charlie.By the time Season 6 is a thing, Vaggie is probably going to need to feed her in bed because Charlie is too dumb to eat by herself.
>>154529895I’m not sure how does one goes into a mental breakdown over Lute not being a woman she doesn’t remotely resemble and is instead a heavily female-oriented creature meant to defend Heaven
>>154530066Charlie's a white woman
>>154530066Viv kinda went a bit self insert with Charlie during S2. Technically speaking S2 was kinda filler inspired by her experience having dumb fights on twitter. We were initially gonna get more info on Lilith and Eden shit ( possibly also Eve) but that got shafted for Vee shenanigans. Well probably get the important lore stuff in S3.
>>154530066nah pilot charlie's dumb as shit too, her stunt at the tv show is embarrassing to watch.
>>154530066It does reflect the audience that likes this show
Women only want one thing
I actually gotten more disappointed with Vaggie.Like imagine being the Heaven equivalent of an irken and you still ended up being a dull yuri tool.
There's a surprising amount of art about Adam having tits and lactating considering I thought there would be zero.
>>154530593careful adam she's gonna bite.>>154530710adam's luscious tits haunt the narrative.
>>154530742works/80860246/chapters/214037241
>>154530756closest i'll ever get to omega adam/alpha lute in this godforsaken fandom without writing it myself. thank you for your services anon.
>>154530934Not my writing but it's based. there's another chapter where Lute has an ovipositor and lays eggs in him
>>154530943Bug lute
>>154530985It's based when done for the purposes of no holds barred jilling off. Not whatever bugcuck has going on. In fact I don't think he's ever jilled off in his life
>>154531034Shouldn't she have purple eyes?
>>154529304>Lute is continuously beaten down and spoken over by pretty much everyone except Adam;I always find this insistence so mind boggling. Viv said that Lute doesn’t get taken as seriously as she thinks she deserves, yes — that second part is an important caveat too many people conveniently ignore so they can white knight her.A large part of it is her unpleasant, openly blood thirsty and unstable personality. That disrespectful public freak out you’re having in front of Heaven’s leadership, Lute? That’s pretty much Why Sera didn’t promote you and why people are dismissing you.Abel wasn’t the right choice either, but from heaven’s perspective, if it’s between the Nepo Baby and General Ripper at a volatile time, I’m going with the Nepo Baby.And yeah, she got a lot of her respect through Adam. Because really, she’s second in command of the army. Not a nose bleed position, sure — more middle management — but enough that it gave her a seat in the chamber. No, she’s entitled, that’s one of her many, many problems.
>>154531077>In fact I don't think he's ever jilled off in his lifePretty sure he violently masturbates to the Cucking parts of his NTR fanfic. Definitely furiously stroking it with tears in his eyes. Real emotional stuff.
>>154528944In fact, if you look at from Adam to Lute to Abel’s helmets, the horns progress in a progressive curve, suggesting a link. Plus, all three of them have rock as their musical genre.
>>154531136I honestly want Abel and Lute to straight up kill Lucifer and Eve. But I know it will not happen cause Viv woobies the literal devil and the Lilith wannabe.
>>154531124>Viv said that Lute doesn’t get taken as seriously as she thinks she deservesInteresting tie to Adam there with his freakout just before he dies. You see shades of it elsewhere like when he's annoyed that the concert chick likes the drummer over him but that's the biggest example. They really are birds of a feather, I suppose being the only two people on Earth for a while makes you think the world revolves around you. And I guess for a while it did
>>154531124>Be made to be a leading force of Heaven’s army>Be treated poorly for thousands of years>Get a guy that actually lets you to cry on his soldier>Guy gets killed and the people behind the death are forgiven by heaven >Get humiliated in public because your boss still doesn’t care about you to let you know you are not actually the Head Exorcist and this guy you barely know about is. And he doesn’t seem to fit into ten expectations of his father.Magic Man, you need a birthday party where someone puts your face on the cake.
>>154531124Lute deserves to kill people with hammers
I wouldn’t be surprised if Abel HATES the elites of heaven that his butt kissing is just an act for him. So despite Lute viewing them as legitimate leaders worth of respect, they put their trust into someone that respects Lute and Adam much more than he respects them.
>>154531472No Bugcuck. Abel ain't secretly some bloodthirsty genius playing his revenge. That's Lute who's probably his mom.
Did they ever explain how Adam was the first Winner when Abel was a thing?Adam lived like 900 years. Abel died to Caine and there were probably others too.
>>154531570No. You only get Alastor and Vox backstory to understand why TV man is big gay for Deer. Now eat the slop.
>>154531512Not listening. You are too dishonest to even regard Abel’s anger issues at Golf. Lute herself is an obstacle because she goes for the respect authority thing. There has to be someone who doesn’t think that way to push the stage, willing to put his hands on seraphims like Emily. Or else it will not progress.
>>154531570A couple of options. Take your pick:>Adam has been in existence longer which makes him first.>Abel waited for his parents by the gates of Heaven because he was too pussy to go in by himself.>Simple writing oversight
>>154531570The most likely answer is Abel was a later addition to the show.
>>154531570The perfect explanation is Abel not being a human winner. Which will spoil quite a lot of the plot by the implications.
>>154531570Abel is a good son and chose to wait at the gates til Adam got there cause he knew his dad would want to be the First one in.
>>154531570I genuinely don’t think anyone working on the show knew that Adam lived that long. They probably thought he lived as long as a normal man and after he died Cain and Abel had their fight, if they put any thought into it whatsoever.
>>154531619Abel would not wait that long. His belly says otherwise.
>>154531608No Bugcuck. That's makes no sense. Stop shilling your fanfic.
>>154531631Adam dying that early doesn’t make sense.
>>154531631honestly i could see them just going 'yeah adam died first in this version' and moving which is fine since this is all biblical fanfiction of fanfiction, which is why i'm also assuming that neither abel nor cain are gonna bang their sisters (or adam his daughters/eve their sons) in order to spawn the rest of humanity in this series.
>>154531593Honestly, the second option. Show Abel might as well be a marshmallow big chungus that can't wipe his own ass. I am slowly getting convinced his behavior in life was like that too and drove Caine insane with his behavior. It wasn't envy or jealousy, not even getting into Grace of God that drove Caine into the First Murder. No it was Abel being Abel.
>>154531593You should add >The angels expected Adam to be the first soul in heaven so for bureaucracy reasons they forced Abel to sit outside the gate till his dad died.
>>154531704I'm more expecting Abel to have pissed Cain enough that he pushed or threw a rock at Abel and accidentally one shot him.
>>154531704I’m starting to think Adam raised Abel very differently from the rest because he feared what inspiring Violence would result with Abel. And instead taught him to resist it by any means possible.
>>154531738Ignore Bugcuck over here. He's kinda retarded and ignores the show in favour of his fanfic.
>>154531755That’s really bizarre projection.
lol
>>154531780Do you even understand what the word "projection" means? I highly doubt it.
>>154526557>secretly a subOnly weak men want this
>>154531844Switch4Switch is superior
>>154531816I do. All of the anti Lilith Eve stuff is odd to me. And the stories make up to try to explain away the whole Adam being the first human soul in heaven instead of Abel are also really bizarre.The answers that are given in the show within the first season are there but people are so triggered by them, that I wonder why you don’t make a fanfic community instead.
how does deals work in the show exactly? or really the whole overlord business?I thought they were powered by souls but Vox's whole deal (and Alastors) seems to be belief? why does a bunch of sinners thinking you are the hot shit matter? why does Rosie and Alastors deal matter at all?...actually, I have an even better question. why can't Lucifer hurt sinners but can hurt angels? like what is the logic? why not also make him incapable of hurting angels?
>>154531915>actually, I have an even better question. why can't Lucifer hurt sinners but can hurt angels? like what is the logic? why not also make him incapable of hurting angels?because being stuck hanging around sinners forever is the point of his punishment - 'you disobeyed god and corrupted humanity for this, now live with the consequences'. as for why he can hurt angels, it was probably assumed at the time of his punishment that he'd never interact with any angels ever again, or if he did they'd be fallen and never coming back anyway so who cares if he kills them? honestly i'm more curious as to how lucifer and lilith end up going to hell considering how kind and gentle the speaker of god (who is the closest we'll get to god) comes across. unless the show's gonna pull a lazy ass 'well actually the ELDER angels (who got tricked by adam or something idk) decided to send them there, god didn't tell them to do anything!' thing.
>>154532068I have a feeling that whatever benefits God gives to Lucifer and the demons is actually meant to screw them over.
>>154532068>because being stuck hanging around sinners forever is the point of his punishment - 'you disobeyed god and corrupted humanity for this, now live with the consequences'.Honestly, makes sense, but all of us know if Lucifer had two braincells to rub together, he could go get Hellborn, Goetia or the Sins to do it.
>>154532156well, yeah, that's obvious. >'hey, you're immortal! that means there's NO ESCAPE and you can die and die and die again and never escape!'. >'hey, you have a cool new form! you can't change it even if you hate it, and you will because it's connected to your sins and/or traumatic death!' >'hey, you can make deals to empower yourselves! if the deal sucks, tough shit that's your life forever now!' >'hey lucifer! you wanted to see what humans did with the gift of free will, right? here you fucking go. and you can't stop them. you can't even protect them. remember, you thought you knew better than me. all of this is your fault.'
>>154532246this is explicitly stated by lucifer in the show and is part of his dislike of sinners, when vaggi goes to ask him to intervene with vox and asks why he can't just smite him. as for why he doesn't make the hellborn do it, it's probably because he seems allergic to giving orders (and taking responsibility for said orders) in general. he's a dreeeamer don't make him think about consequences maaaan.
>>154530742>careful adam she's gonna bite.And?
I just think creating an oppressive goverment, filling it with numerous races in a caste system, getting embodiment of deadly sins to rule all over them and then leaving them all to themselves so that you can fuck ducks without any responsibility for a situation you created, to the point your throne is permanently empty and left covered in cobwebs...isn't a good look for a so called "wholesome" "dreamer"
>>154531591>Abel’s anger issues at Golf
>>154532394Isn’t it kinda odd how a spider web is sitting on the throne of Lucifer.
>>154532407Yes… That was shown in his debut episode as a part of the montage scene in that terrible pop heaven song.
>>154532427yeah it's like that's common visual shorthand for 'nobody's been here for a while' and not a reference to zestial.
>>154532446Autism
Maybe the reason Abel wasn’t so visibly torn up about his father’s death was a resentment of the man he’d become in heaven. He found the constant womanising downright disrespectful to the memory of his mother — there’s time passing and moving on, and there’s just being a douche.I have the head canon that Abel is a major mama’s boy, even if so much time has passed since he last saw her that he struggles to remember what she looked like. (Wink wink, hint hint)
>>154526879>Vizie is not the enemyHow many times will you people believe this shit. All of these people are so engrossed in far left ideology that they will always go in that direction with their stories. Swear to god I hear this every time.>GOOSE IS ONE OF THE GOOD ONES!Actually the entire series was an allegory for trans shit and the overall message is 'transition or stay an asshole'>TOBY FOX IS ONE OF THE GOOD ONES!Actually the entire series is about his yuri/feminization fetish. Also the entire series is ripped off of Paper Mario/Mother fuck off.>VIZI IS ONE OF THE—No.
>>154532485he still wanted one of his guitars, and looked to him for guidance during 'hear my hope' though.
>>154532464It’s not autism. It’s just a common gag that golf makes people super furious.
>>154532521nice meltdown tourist.
>>154532521Vivzie is a cisgender woman and wouldn't give a fuck about trans or forced feminization. those are men's fetishes
>"Honey..." whispered Lilith in her nightgown, her curves nearly busting out of the dainty little thing. A sight that would leave even Angels speechless.>Unfortunatly, her husband only had an eye on one thing these days. >"Can we just sleep normally without any ducks between us?" asked Lilith, frustration creeping into her voice. "You already spend 16 hours a day at your workshop">"Nope" refused Lucifer, in his ducky pajamas. "I made it very clear at the start of our relationship that ducks stay in bed">Looking at Lucifer hugging his duck plushie, in their duck themed surrounded by ducks of all sizes and materials. Lilith had enough.And that's how Lilith went to Adam and made a deal.
>Be Vivzie>make one trans character that does nothing (Sallie Mae in Helluva Boss)>have them voiced by a trans voice actor>get to play the 'nuh uh trans characters should be played by trans actors otherwise it's basically blackface' card if someone asks you if your other characters are transIngenious really.
>>154532529That’s true. People are messy. He’s feelings towards his father likely just as such.Say a word against his Mama, though, he’ll drop kick the teeth outta your mouth.>>154532538Iiiii don’t think that’s what they were going for here. Pretty sure it was an Easter egg to the fact he was a shepherd.
>>154532549That’s a guy that’s been defeated by failed expectations and canon cucking.
>>154532632> Iiiii don’t think that’s what they were going for here. Pretty sure it was an Easter egg to the fact he was a shepherd.Well. How else would his golf pug ended up so busted up? It’s mini-golf. It’s a joke based on his anger at the game and maybe a tug to the idea that him being a head exorcist, leading the lamb themed exorcists, isn’t going to be a peaceful outcome.
>>154532786Hmmm, nah, I think it’s just an Easter egg gag visual gag. Maybe a double joke of getting frustrated with the game, but I’m not sure it’s that deep a read into the character.
I miss milky hours
>>154532521>Actually the entire series was an allegory for trans shit and the overall message is 'transition or stay an asshole'Only people who were already trannies believed Cooper wouldn't default to making his overrated shit a trans allegory>Actually the entire series is about his yuri/feminization fetish. Also the entire series is ripped off of Paper Mario/Mother fuck off.Furry shit that's already long past its prime and was a flash-in-the-pan even at its height of popularity
>>154533105Within the same episode, Abel shows up to watch Lute perform Gravity from behind the door. Her breaking the whole room apart. And the exorcists are implied to be the raindrops of the flood. “Storm's comin', I can see the cloudsNo running's gonna save you nowAnd hard rain is gonna fall downLike gravity, like gravity”So Abel appearing at the end of the song to be the last thing Lute sees could imply he is the cloud.
>>154532628Absolutely mogging Gooseworx while still being able to claim woke points. Truly, she is /our girl/
>>154533157i could just as easily argue that the broken glass that falls down is a similar shade of gold-pink to abel's outfit, signifying that lute is going to shatter him and the rest of heaven into pieces and destroy them both in the name of chasing her vision of adam.
>>154533213>i could just as easily argue that the broken glass that falls down is a similar shade of gold-pink to abel's outfit,Wait. Can I see it?
>>154533213>i could just as easily argue that the broken glass that falls down is a similar shade of gold-pink to abel's outfit,That actually sounds more convincing that the cloud of rain will be led by Abel. Because Lute falls along with those “raindrops”.
>>154529084>>154529168>>154529216>>154529304But Wait! There's More!>Lute's character profile is just listed as CLASSIFIED in the Hazbin Hotel Playbill (which iirc was written by Vivzie herself)>Lute and Adam were first publically revealed in a tweet from Viv where she calls them 'Adam and *cough cough* LuteAt this point I'll be more surprised if she's not Eve.
>>154533552I think the narrative, as us as the audience, was supposed to assume Lute was Eve but the story telling is so sloppy and disjointed that no one really cares and quickly jumped to Lilith Eve because they made that way too clear in comparison.The mystery about lute and Lilith wasn’t meant to be this annoyingly dragged out. But was because, tv man.
>>154533863That and people clinging onto to dubious leaks made before the show premiere
>>154533993Those leaks appear to be very accurate. And it fits into what we can find before the final release of the show. Like the Lillith poster.But the thing is, if that’s the story Viv wanted to tell for years like she says, why delay it by another two years?
>>154534073>Headcanon Alert
>>154526756Wasn't part of her punishment supposed to be she had to endure 300 childbirths every day or something just to watch them die?
Explain
>>154534073Who gave you permission to speak bugcuck?
>>154534729Adam acquired more mass to add more power to his backshots of doom.
>>154534856You reckon he has fucked sinners to death before?
>>154534869Probably not. He finds sinners and hell kinda gross. He'd also not waste time doing doing that during exterminations because it would mess his kill score.
>>154524902I read that expression as Charlie paralyzed during dry anal by her conscientiousness and you did not disappoint. Top stuff
>>154534539You expect accuracy from Tumblr or Viv?
>>154534764The same God that permitted you to live.
>>154534729Notice that Lilith’s seat is a heart.
>>154535730Bugcuck is being Satanic again.
>>154535741What Adam Cock does to a woman.
Lucifer is probably the biggest loser in creation
>>154535186It's always hilarious the amount of dunning kruger from reddit, twitter/bsky and tumblr regarding Lilith's mythology
>>154534729Who could Lilith's VA possibly be? It's going to be an expensive celebrity I'm sure, Viv won't be able to resist the star power.
>>154536427Definitely not Lady Gaga unless Lilith be dying super early.
>>154536427Nah I think its another broadway person, hell will freeze over before she gets gaga
>>154536400I wonder how triggered they would be of Eve renaming herself to Lillith and more accurately portray the evils of that character. The sinners and winners in Hazbin make way more sense if they’re essentially the demons of Lillith due to the inhuman state of their mother. So when they die, the beasts within them are usually unveiled.
>>154536432She’s dying early.
>>154536449Bite a bullet Bugcuck who said you could reply to me
Looty got a mandatory 2 week vacation lmao. No wonder it's been quieter, I hope she brings me a stick of rock when she gets back
>>154536473Anon. You and I have read Lilith lore. There is lore of her being seto-barren and having no kids. And there is lore of her being the mother of demons.In Hazbin, Lilith only has Charlie. But, Eve is the mother of all of the sinners, who are constantly referenced as demons.
>>154536483I’m not surprised. Her posts are very spammy.
Eve-lute-ions
>>154536503
>>154535741It's Kingdom Hearts
Oh man Looty's account got nuked
>>154536562All that 4chan Nitro wasted
>>154536483Shouldn't it be a 3 day ban?
>>154536572>>154536579I'm talking about her account on shitter
>>154536579https://xcancel.com/Lute__CEO/status/2073975734365032541
Might be divine consequences.
>>154536485>Bugcuck actually think Viv is going for lore accurate and not just giving her OCs the name of biblical characters and doing her own thing
>>154536583never mind I'm tarded
>>154536583Ohh. Kinda messed up.
>>154536593She worked on this thing for years. It would be surprising if she didn’t put in research for the demons at least
>>154536591Bugcuck you'd get banned faster. You don't cuz you only lurk here like a retard and the people here pity you enough to let you roll yourself in your delusions like a pig in shit.
>>154536593Another lesson for you newfags, do not ever entertain any sort of conversation with you, the only words you need to speak to him is to tell bugcuck to eat shit for daring to even reply
>>154536608She didn't know Saint Peter was a real guy. That says everything you need to know about Viv. She only knows the popular pop culture stuff and that's it.
>>154536623Yeah. But Lilith is popular culture.
Looty if you're reading this I would like a full analysis of Adam's milk capacity based on Viv and Alex Brightman interviews on my desk when you get back. Thanks
>>154536632Sadly math and physics were never my forte.
>>154536613Sounds like God has been stomping on you lately.
>Another episode of bugcuck using the lord's name in vain
>>154526557Why would you want someone THAT emotionally damaged/stunted? Afraid that a normal person might leave you because you are weird/smelly?
>>154536686It’s a man’s desire to have a strong woman.
>>154536677He truly is the Antichrist. Begone BUGKEK the Power of Christ compels you.
>>154536677Seems like Jesus heard you by those four numbers up there
>>154536693It's not strength just because she can kill people.On an emotional level she is absolute trash tier stunted wannabe. Might as well get a quadriplegic GF because she'll never be able to physically leave you.
Bugcuck is malding again. Probably didn't get his daily dose of Cuck Goon material so he's cranky.
>>154536632LMAO SHE SAW IT
Looty you here?
>>154536725She is.
>>154536708We know it's you Lilith.
>>154536704seems even the guy upstairs agrees
>>154536730I thought she got banned.
>>154536741She did.
Is Bugcuck having another episode?
>>154536746Damn.
>>154536739Yeah. I know. He put a 704 on my “four” post.
>>154536752A different kind… caution for the others here. Whenever Jesus shows a minor implication of losing his tolerance, there is real danger to occur.
>>154536752I'd say yes
>>154536860Ok he genuinely thinks he's Jesus. Pretty sure Bugcuck is the Antichrist at this point.
>>154536890Told you he was nuts
>>154536890>>154536910>Acts cautious about Jesus interacting with the anons>OH he thinks he’s Jesus!!!How retarded are you people?
>>154536910He might also be a deeply closeted gay guy. Like his weirdness towards women kinda fits with that specific combo. He is vaguely religious ( kinda fails at it) so his insane behaviour might be caused by him trying to repress his homosexual tendencies out of guilt. Kinda explains why he's so obsessed with the show and why he fixates so much on the male characters ( Abel and Adam).
>>154537012idk dude is major lutefag
>>154526613I need that artist right now.
>>154537024>>154537012I'm willing to bet part of the reason he seethes so bad at Lute = Eve is in his eyes making his precious waifu one and the same as "bad momma eve" in his words
>>154537024I have to ask you. Why do these anons somehow get mega delusional about me? I point to signs that Jesus is interacting with us because of the numbers of 6677 and 704 and what’s going on with a particular anon, and somehow they’re convinced I’m talking about myself as Jesus.And then you have this out of nowhere gay conspiracy that is essentially created by me identifying womanly behaviors and hating Lilith Eve and Lilith for being adulterous evil women.
>>154537077I don't understand why you can't get it through your thick skull that nobody likes you nor wants you here, you were despised during 2024 /co/, hated in /hhg/, achieved beloved lolcow status for a bit, before you fucked that up too and became so reviled you got exiled from fucking /trash/ of all places and now you bother us again where you're universally despised. So fuck off, no one wants to be around here or read your crap
>>154537097Oh hey.The sevens keep appearing.
>>154534729adam's luscious childbearing hips...
>>154537024Yet he never mentions finding her attractive. He never comments on on any hot pictures of any women. He never implies actually liking Lute besides her fitting in his Schizo theory. He also frequented the trash Hazbin general where they constantly spam gay porn. I genuinely think he's gay but is ashamed by it because religious guilt. Seen this type before.
>>154537157Nah you weren't there during 2024-2025, dude would write elaborate guitarspear fics and pass it off as his "theory" the latest chapter of it is him pushing the hc of adam renaming her eve, I swear he also talked about nudism fetish too and how anything in-between clothed and au natural was satanic
Don't forget. Sinners deserve even less!
>>154537246A lot of people here often forget that.
Hazbin hotel feels like a lucid dream at times.
I wish I had my tablet so I could draw Adam doing cool shit
>>154537284Look man, I realized that when we had an idiot pretty boy Peter at the gates. You think someone that got reverse crucified by Romans because Emperor Nero blamed him would treated a bit more seriously.Or like, what do you mean no one knows how to get into heaven? Christianity is a thing Hazbinverse. Does no one read the book? Fucking hell, Peter by himself should have the power to bring people to Heaven if he wants.>Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah, for this was not revealed to you by flesh and blood, but by my Father in heaven. And I tell you that you are Cephas (Peter) (Petros), and on this rock (petra) I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it. I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.Vivi is just picking things and pieces for his Bible AU with OC characters.
>>154537371Vi is a woman
>>154537377It just...why use important, significant names outside of what is expected? It is not like she is a stranger to the concept, she has Emily and Sera.Names like Adam, Abel, Peter have significance and expectations.Lucifer gets a pass because he is parodied to death already and everyone has an opinion on it. Lilith is the same since she is basically Jewish oogie boogie folktale.
>>154537415They never explained to her who Peter was.
In an alternate universe, Vox is replaced by Emperor Nero and we have a St. Peter coming with a steel chair from behind for an awesome duel
>>154537415because she's writing biblical fanfiction and, much like fanfiction itself, the original setting is more flavour text coupled with whatever canon elements are useful for the story actually being told. view the bible as a fictional story and hazbin as a fanfic written about the villain's OC daughter and everything will make way more sense immediately.
>>154536708Buddy, both men and women love emotionally unbalanced people."Don't stick your dick into crazy", "I can fix him/her"
>>154536427Eden Espinosa is always a good choice
Lilith if Viv was actually good at character design.
>>154538421Honestly, Lilith like that would fit as Adam's counterpart
>>154538791he genuinely looks so natural and comfortable pregnant... beautiful man is glowing...
>>154536503Hey guys, did you know that in terms of female human and male Pokémon breeding
Lilith and Adam look so perfect together
>>154539755Like chad and stacy
Thoughts on Abel/Charlie?
How I see Vagi and Charlie’s relationship deteriorating over the course of S3.
>>154539847They can be cute together.
Imagine Lilith x Abel as the anti guitarprincess
>>154539892Does that even exist?
>>154539952When Adam does it he comes off as a chad not settling for hags.When Lilith does it she's robbing the cradle.
>>154539956Yes it’s called MarchingBelle
>>154539755Are there any good Lilith/Adam fics?
>>154540014I swear I've never seen a piece of art for it.
>>154540221There's not that many Adam/Lilith fics.
>>154540221it's supremely difficult to filter actual content vs the 'well this is mentioned in the backstory for two lines so i better tag it!' bullshit people do.
>>154539897Vaggie deserves a better partner than charlie. Idk if an existing or a yet to be introduced one but their whole 'relationship' atm is slightly more fucked up than val/angel
>>154540468Yeah that's a big issue. It should be tagged if it contains actual content.
>>154540485Vaggie is more like Charlie's pet than an actual partner. She even found her where most people find stray pets.
>>154540485Emily
>>154539847It's cute if Eve is small because she's made from Adam's rib. Just like Lilith went with someone cutesy and small.
>>154540485it's a little like jack and sally from nightmare before christmas, because sally does fuck-all that doesn't revolve around jack and what jack wants and what jack thinks. >>154540969small and dainty and with hands that can fit in a butthole...
>>154541059It's all fun and games until someone's panicking because the fidget spinner she put up there won't come out
>>154541098that's why everything aimed at the butt needs a flared base, butt stuff 101.
>>154540628I do admire Vaggie's determination for Charlie but my god does Charlie use her like loose tissue and never listens to her until it is too late and then continues to not listen her after some time.
>>154541240You think Adam pays attention to that? No. His hubris is too much. now if Lute/Eve has small enough arms compared to his mighty sphincter she might be able to get right in there and pull it out like a farmer pulling a calf out of a cow. Maybe she finds some Hell contraband smuggled back to heaven in a condom too. The real good shit according to the imp he bought it off. or maybe it's just flour. He wouldn't know it's been in there 2 weeks
>>154541046>Did it so they’ll grab the same floaty
>>154541388would lute eat bread made with yeast swabbed from adam's body?
>>154541700She wouldn’t because Adam would tell her no.
>>154541700Yeah she would 100% and Adam would be confused but encourage it anyway because he's so awesome so whatever the fuck this is must be awesome too right? uhh right? And it's served hot and fresh with breastmilk butter
>>154541717he'd see the yearning in her eyes and still deny her, stronger man than me...
Adam yeast bread with a side of hot fried placenta.
The clothes they had in early earth would look very hand made and stitchy. Resembling clothes they have seen angels worn.
>>154541842Huh. I kinda thought they would wear things made out of animal pelts.
>>154542052The pelts would have to be put together somehow. And a lot of animals have very short furs.
>>154542126I wonder if Eve was sad she could no longer see Adam naked 24/7. Imagine him walking with that thing flopping around.
>>154542256Depends on the Eve we actually get
>>154542331What do you mean?
>Lute has deep envy of Lilith and Eve by the Adam they got
>>154542388Personality.
>>154542391Fuck off Bugcuck.
>>154541824i prefer plasagna. https://youtu.be/-LhgJjicMz8?si=zZOwRG5YgdpFSubY&t=129fun fact, that's the actual placenta from one of these two on the plate that gets cut up. they don't actually cook it though. >>154542256i think adam had an average sized dick personally. not a monster, something you could take repeatedly and have a great time but still walk just fine the next day. end the unjust reign of the monster dong. spare a pray for those with low cervixes.
>>154542418He's the dickmaster because of how he uses it and how fertile he is. He shoots big loads.
>>154542331This Eve >>154526882
>>154542418I mean he's pretty big. It would depend on how large Eve was in comparison to him and Lilith. He could be average for his height and build but that would still be kinda uncomfortable for a normal sized human. Realistically he would be built with Lilith and Eve's proportions in mind.
>>154542469Most definitely.
Fingering Lute's pulsing cloaca...
>>154542469No. That shit is beyond lame.
>>154542491I'm pretty sure she just has a regular vagina.
>>154542491lute fingering adam's pulsing cloaca...
>>154542499You’re telling me you wouldn’t want that woman? Yes you do. You’re a Hazbin Hotel fan.
>>154527652I've had this song stuck in my head for hours. Free me.
HELL'S GREATEST PARTNERSSIDE BY SIDEHELL'S GREATEST PARTNERSI WON'T HIDEYOU BEAT MY HEART ALIVEBEAT MY HEART ALIVE YOU BEAT MY HEART ALIVEBEAT MY HEART ALIVEHELL'S GREATEST PARTNERSFOR ALL TIME
>>154541312Dykes deserve what they get.
Hell’s greatest dad is foreshadowing yaoi
>>154542689I love you
>>154542677radioapple is so boring and trite (unless they go the fun 'alastor is genuinely just fucking with him' route) but it kills adamsapple shippers dead so i have no choice but to enable it.
>>154542711The enemy of my enemy is my friend
Would Lucifer become a literal bimbo woman.
>>154542757Looks like mha
>>154542729The enemy of my enemy is still my enemy.
>>154542711It would also make both Alastor and Lucifer be treated like jokes. S2 already humiliated them so it's only going to get worse for them. Honestly happy since I despise both.
>>154542759He's kinda too short for that.
HELL'S GREATEST PARTNERS SIDE BY SIDEHELL'S GREATEST PARTNERSWE SURVIVEYOU ARE MY HOME IN HELL!!!!MY HOME IN HELLMY HOME IN HELL!!!!!! HELL'S GREATEST PARTNERSFOR ALL TIME
Did a Radioapple Shipper newfag show up?
>>154542829No bimbo is too short
So in Guitarspear which one is the Lucifer and which one is the Alastor
>>154542924Aren't bimbos supposed to be on the taller side?
>>154542927Normal English please. Otherwise I can't help you.
>>154542941Who told you that?
>>154542927depends on which one would leave dead birds on the other's pillow to demonstrate their hunting prowess and which one would let the other cling to them at all times including watching them piss.
>>154542993
>>154542993I feel like that's Alastor and also Alastor.
>>154542993Lute would probably kill all sorts of small animals and probably clings to Adam. She definitely watched him piss with that dick of his. Also Adam probably hunted exclusively bigger animals after getting kicked out of Eden.
Btw, I’m just gonna throw this out there. But do any of you guys notice how off Lute’s voice sounded when she was talking to Lilith on the beach? I dunno, maybe because it was one of the few times she wasn’t snarling or barking threats, but it sounded just a bit too different compared to the rest of season 1 and 2. Or maybe it’s just vocal evolution, I dunno.
>>154543068You got a link to the scene? I'm genuinely curious and wanna compare.
>>154543063Lute has fleas
>>154543089https://youtu.be/36xC7RgupHQ?is=vFuHsz6qu_NFkk2c
>>154543109Holy shit she actually sounds super different. This couldn't have a been a late production thing right? Is that supposed to be her real voice if she's actually Eve. She sounds more regal and commanding.
>>154543109>>154543159Damn. Remember when Vosk was talking about workshopping the voice with Viv to ensure she got it just right for where the character was coming from?
How would Jesus look in this show?
>>154543178I know S1 Hazbin production was disjointed but this couldn't be the first scenes she voiced.
>>154543109>>154543178It sounds way too much like the heavenly elites. Of Sera and the Speaker.
>>154543267Yeah, I mean it does sound deliberate. If she's Eve then Lilith could be one of the few who know.It's bold of Lute to threaten Lilith while she's bleeding to death and just went to war against her daughter. Almost like they have history or something.
>>154543109Back of Lute's neck looks especially like Rosie here
>>154543305Eve wouldn’t be threatening.
>>154543305Could also be she's using that voice for emotional manipulation reasons. Maybe trying to force Lilith's guilt over the apple or trying to surface bad memories. Could also be she maybe threatened Lilith in the past and using the Eve voice is best for intimation purposes.
>>154543327Yes asshole. I guess you magically got the scrip for all Hazbin seasons and stole their writers notes. Maybe have some actual proof instead of just your headcanon brought on by consuming fan media.
>>154543316What if Rosie replicating Lute’s neck piece because it’s actually a sign of a female elite angel.
>>154543369Okay. What can Eve even do?
Right?! I thought it wasn’t just me. Hell, even if you put it up against the “did you…?” It’s not that far off! That’s her real voice.But then you wonder why she didn’t revert to that when she was talking to Ghost Adam for the most part. Maybe that’s how she’s conditioned herself to speak to him because he didn’t know?But then… ya see, it’s getting to the point now how he couldn’t have known. Lilith and Adam made a deal 7 years ago, and that’s when the exterminations started.What if… part of the deal was Adam getting his Evie (later Lute) back from Hell?!!
>>154543400That doesn’t make any sense. Lute and Exorcists are extremely militant.
>>154543400Now I'm thinking Exorcists are a pre-existing Heavenborn species used for the military, around longer than the Exterminations, but Lute is merely disguised as one.
>>154543433Unless Lute/Eve was already a tough, vicious woman from her life on prehistoric earth. If we’re going by the theory that the exorcists are watered down clones of Lute/Eve, she’d make the perfect template and leader.
>>154543455Okay. A whole bunch of nonsense lore.
What if Rosie is to both exorcists (before her fall) and cannibals (after her fall) what Bee is to hellhounds and Satan is to imps and Eve struck some kind of deal with her?
>>154543483Hey, I’m just speculating with the information available to me. I’m not saying definitively this is the case, I’m gathering how this could make most canon sense without going off the rails.Better than Lute being a big Queen or some shite.
>>154543446Probably. Maybe we get a scene in S3 where some Exorcists comments on how Lute just appeared one day and climbed the ranks absurdly fast. Maybe they assumed she was secretly fucking Adam for the promotions but the truth is more complex.
>>154543483Says the Roo is Eve guy. Please don't be the new Bugcuck. I can't take another guy like him.
>>154543400Cuz think about it. Lilith made a deal with Adam, right?So Lilith got to chill up in heaven. Great. But what could Adam have got out of that deal? Exterminations were clearly just entertainment for him. So what?His wife back by his side?
>>154543505Big Queen Lute makes more sense as a threat. What special powers does an Eve even have? Tending the flowers.
>>154543552Why would he want his wife back only to not sleep with her?
>>154543572This is why Lilith Eve makes more sense to me. Because he would be really happy about sleeping with Eve for seven years straight.
>>154543572I mean, we only see these two alone together once or twice briefly in the whole show. How do we know they weren’t? How do we know we won’t get a flashback of the two at Adam’s home in heaven and being themselves around each other. Eve might call Adam ‘sir’ since all the way back in Eden.Again, I’m not definitively saying this is the case. I’m trying to work out how it could sense within the lore and rules of the world.
>>154543572He might be lying to Charlie. He's obviously not gonna tell Lucifer's spawn what he's actually up to. Also his meeting with Charlie to discuss the idea of redemption was actually a cover up for them to find out what happened to the exorcist that went missing ( the one Carmila killed). He was basically stalling and wasting Charlie's time till that drone got the important footage
>>154543629How about you try Lilith Eve for a second and see it works better for the whole deal situation. We got two years before they release anything.
>>154543564>>154543615Nobody cares Bugcuck. Take your NTR fanfic and fuck off.
>>154543629What I don't get here is the 'I never got to tell you' confession. It doesn't work in a scenario where Adam knows she's Eve and they've rekindled their relationship.
>>154543661Shouldn’t coomers be contained in the Trash prison cells?
>>154543659One year and a bit more likely. I'm guessing the second half of 2027.
>>154543659We literally got confirmation that Beach Lilith is the real Lilith and Charlie actually got the call from her. You are clinging to dubious leaks that got disproved a long time ago.
>>154543682Pretty sure you fucked off from trash after they started calling you Kikerat. Your opinion is meaningless Bugcuck.
>>154543659Hmm, nah. Viv has been pretty much outright confirmed no one is running around pretending to be someone else and that that’s Lilith on the beach. Thanks anyway.>>154543677I mean… maybe it’s something else completely out of left field. Maybe it is freaking Serpent Seed, who the hell knows? I’m spit balling here.And wouldn’t it be funny that all this time, for all his talk, Adam wasn’t this big womanizer? That Eve really was the woman for him?
>>154543691Her secret canon name is literally Lillith. Don’t take it so seriously. Season 3 is all about mysteries, lore baits, and baits-and-switches. It’s not creators lying to hype up their own projects is a new thing. Alex Hirsch did it.
>>154543748Okay. Then why is Eve pretending to be Lute? A chick that doesn’t even look like Eve?
>>154543757Fuck off Bugcuck. Nobody cares.
>>154543819You do care. It’s just leading you to answers you don’t want.
>>154543774Because there never was a Lute. Lute would be the guise she took because let’s be real here - if Eve went to heaven, her name is tainted for being responsible for the fall of man. If she went to Hell or purgatory, then how would they explain why Eve suddenly appeared in Heaven? It’s simply the name she goes by now to start again.
>>154543831Also, I’m just gonna say this cuz Looty can’t right now cuz someone had to be a spam reporter, Vosk already let the cat out of the bag before hastily shoving it back in (the deleted tweet). Cmon, guys, it’s not That far fetched.
>>154543774So we have a clear Eve design now? Did you break into spindle horse's studio? She could be hiding because of guilt, shame or forced to hide her identity as a punishment by the heaven higher ups. She'd also be disguising herself. Her not looking like her old self would literally be the point.
Angry titty fuck Vaggie.
There was never Boogle. There was only me... FIREWOLF
>>154543879Yeah, in a way. Kinda.
Can't believe Bugcuck actually has a friend now. Quickly tell him how Zestial is Cain, Lute is a bug woman and Abel is secretly a bloodthirsty mastermind out for revenge. Also how you're the chosen of Jesus Christ.
>>154543854It’s shown in the first episode upon the first or second minute. By Viv’s statements about secret identities, Lute would need to actually need to resemble Eve.Seriously, the only things people are doing with Lute is go by her being a woman that loves Adam and nothing else.
Pookoo Adam and Javan Lute
>>154543888Well, when you look at the silhouette, Lute’s hair does look like it could be that grown out. The bangs are an indicator. He hair does look like it’s been cut shorter than it used to be.
Man I miss Looty.
Omg, why doesn’t Abel recognise her as vaguely resembling his mother? Cuz on top of it being thousands of years since he last saw her, how did he die again? A blow to the coconut with a rock! That probably didn’t help.
Also, had to keep bringing this up, but because Looty can’t… cmon, people.
>>154543908Not really. No. A lot of the fan designs with long hair lute or trying to make her look like Eve makes it too clear that Lute’s hair is completely unique to her. With the Sephiroth waves and her blocky back head thing.It actually discourages me on her being Eve at all.
>>154543991You don't know women can style their hair in very unique and different looks?
>>154543922She's on vacation
>>154543927I think Abel has massive confidence and self-hatred issues, but I doubt he actually has memory loss or anything. His behaviors imply the opposite by the ptsd and traumas he has. The real question is why didn’t Adam try to train him and prepare him to act with violence like Lute is going to in season 3. It could’ve saved his life.
>>154543970Like, I just can’t see any other reason why she’d post and then delete this, especially with her spoiling the Lute vs Vagi rematch in the season 1 finale.
>>154543677traditional interpretation: 'i never got to tell you i loved you' - doesn't explain why she reaches out to him at 'you think i didn't already know?' like she expects that he'll not only accept her feelings but reciprocate them.lute=eve interpretation: 'i never got to tell you i'm eve' - explains why she reaches out to him, because if he knew she was eve, he'd obviously want to hold her again. the main mystery of the lute=eve theory is figuring out the circumstances of eve becoming lute and how aware of it adam truly is.
>>154543879Oh, I can see one or two of those post reveal.> “Lute…?”> (voice shifts) “There was never Lute. There was only ever… ME.”
>>154544055She's a Broadway actress used to self contained shows where the viewers already know the plot. Might not be used to spoiler etiquette in serialised fandoms
>>154544102>Who did you expect at the end of all of this?>God?>The devil perhaps?>No. It's just ME.
>>154544016I know they can. But Lute’s hair is extremely different from Eve and Lilith by how straight and pointy it is. While even the smallest strand of hair Lilith and Eve curls exaggeratedly. I think we are missing the point in trying to make Adam, Abel, and Lute as some kind of heavily related biological family when Eve and the Sinners, Adam’s intended family, turn on Adam for Lucifer in the season 1 finale (with the adultery Eve committed and being in Hell to literally hang out with him).
>>154544125Of course. No problem with that. Not dissing her or anything. If anything, I thank her for fuelling these interesting conversations with that one deleted tweet.
>>154544055Remember. Adam names his wife Eve in Genesis 3 (source material), after the fall.The storyline with Lilith Eve has her change her name to Lillith to represent a total divorced from Adam and her own identity and her ties with the fall.And Adam has some names for Exorcists he would be considering to change if he took them more seriously. Like Vaggie isn’t the only one with a vagina based name. Lute’s name being short for Lieutenant is definitely one of those situations.
>>154544210Hmmm, nah.
>>154544241To be honest, I didn’t like Lilith Eve but it does grow on me when I look more into the lores and realize how it makes way too much sense for the character to act the way she does, and the meanings behind those decisions . Even if it means I put more thought into it than Viviziepop.
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>>154544269Except Charlie and Lucifer made it explicit that this is isn’t out of character behaviour for her.That and Viv’s already confirmed, no, that’s her.And Vosk already gave the game away.
>>154544157>adultery Eve committed You actually believing Lucifer says a lot. S2 literally shows us he bullshits constantly. He lies to hype himself.
>>154544381Oh yeah, that man Adores his wife. I do struggle to believe he’d have cheated on her.
>>154544290Lilith Eve is someone that forsaken everything about herself to become Lillith. Her fitting into Lilith’s personality oddly correlates to losing everything about herself to be this husk rip-off copy of Lilith.
>>154544381>>154544396Well. We got to remember Lilith is implied to struggle generating a kid that some old lore had Charlie be a result of Lilith resorting to Roo to get a child of her own.With Eve being shown as someone with no real will and having that ability, they would be desperate enough to get a kid out of her.
>>154544407Wrong. Eve is Roo. She is in love with Lucifer.
>>154544473Kinda trueWith Eve being this character of supposed no will, gains it by Roo, erases herself to be Lillith, her becoming Roo is probably a massive character regression of realizing she has nothing.
>>154544498She doesn't like Lilith. She only tried to be like Lilith by eating the apple but that slut left Lucifer while she suffered in the void. She'd never rename herself Lilith, she is Eve, the Root of Evil.
Oh boy, now we’ve got Eve!Lilith vs Eve!Roo going on here.
>>154544517It doesn’t matter if she doesn’t like Lilith. She doesn’t like being Eve.
>>154544537If she didn't like being Eve she wouldn't sing about it and she wouldn't have made a deal with Velvette to kill Alastor. She wants Lucifer to herself.
>>154544528I’m pretty sure it’s troll posting.
So… yeah. Guys, look, if Vosk didn’t give the game away, I’d have probably filed Lute!Eve away under ‘interesting, but unlikely’, but that tweet and all the interesting digging people have been doing… I’m like 90% convinced.I could be wrong, sure, but I can live with that. MattPat, just saying, give yourself enough room in your head that you could be wrong too. It’ll be much easier that way.
>>154544625Aww, I’d have loved to see these two interact more. Ah well, that’s what happens when you have so many characters and only so many episodes.
>>154544628My reality is that Lilith Eve is a brick wall and a bug pill have to shallow. Due to it having full on artist support with how “Lilith” is portrayed in season 1. And how strangely naked S2 “Lilith” is in that scandalous dress calling back to the Lilith Eve card of season 1. Practically barefoot with black vines wrapping around her legs (call backs to the opening with Roo’s vines appearing after Eve ate the fruit), eating apple slices, etc.
Lute!Eve is definitely a bunny boiler kind of psycho bitch.
>>154544709Not really. She seems pretty accepting of Adam's flings even if she's not happy about it. She only goes off the rails when he's murdered.
>>154544655Isn’t it kinda weird how Emily kinda has the Eve look to her.Maybe that’s why Abel is attracted to her.
>>154544704Big pillWhy did I misspell that?
>>154544733If her and Adam never had a relationship before, it would be more understandable if she’s looking at them in a different of “would he want me.”
>>154544576More like retard posting.
So we have Bugcuck and Roo=Eve( might be a troll stirring shit) fighting over who's the bigger retard.
>>154532427Clearly the spider is king of hell
>>154544704Think of it this way. Lilith is an independent woman who deosn't need love but Eve is associated with poison love. Who else is associated with poison love? Yes that's right Velvette who makes the love potions. So it makes perfect sense that Eve would chose Velvette as her ally to deliver her message of posion love.She always wanted Lucifer but Lucifer didn't want her because he loved Lilith (but now he loves Alastor). Even if Eve wanted to be like Lilith she doesn't any more because Lucifer loves Alastor. So she will not rename herself after Lilith. You have to be blind to not see this.
>>154544924>She always wanted Lucifer Where exactly are you getting this info from? Nothing in the show suggest that.
>>154544932I posted a clip from the show right there.
Nah he's trolling. Dude it's not funny and getting Bugcuck worked up is super annoying. Fuck off with that shit.
>>154544939That's AI generated you retard. I meant actual show.
>>154544899You might actually be right.
https://x.com/didiyaoyao/status/2073836328219705365?s=46
>>154544975There's also a blonde version.
>>154532448I thought it would be a reference to Alastor or Roo.
What about a purple Lute?
What will we do if Lute isn't Eve and it's like, Rosie or someone instead?
>>154532427Mammon sat on it for a joke and the fatass webbed himself.
>>154545051I never subscribe to Lute being Eve. Adam’s situation seems like a irregular family situation that the huge amount of Exorcists are going to be implemented to.
>>154545077It wouldn’t be a joke. It would be his greed.
>>154544655i like to think emily had a bunch of autographs and band shirts from adam's gigs that she threw out after the court incident and the exterminations were revealed, but then dug out of the heavenly trash when he died. currently they're in a box under her bed that she hopes nobody ever finds. i like to think they were friends in that 'hey that's my friend sera's kid sister, here's how to pirate music since she won't be cool and teach you' way.
>>154544924what the fuck even is this program? also alastor not smiling, throw it out.
>>154545051Don't really see. Her being Rosie doesn't make a lot of sense and even if that's not the case and she's a new character suddenly adding her with no buildup would just suck. They don't really have time to set up her motivations, explain what happened to her in Eden, how she's going to interact with the characters and where she's been all this time. Her being Lute solves this problems.
I can't believe I somehow became a fan of Charlie/Adam.Even I can't explain it. Is it the opposite attract meme?
>>154545182>>154526882It's this.
>>154545182I think it's AI.
>>154545202I guess. Anything is better than Chaggie at this point.
Maybe we will see a past version of Lute in some heaven related content. But her form will be completely different.
>>154545202adam would look wonderful pregnant with charlie's children. also cucking vaggi and trolling lucifer and lilith is fun.
>>154545223Probably saving that form for merch.
>>154545222I think it is because Charlie is basically the only non-Heavenborn girl you can get into a relationship with as long as you can handle her retardation and Adam, even with his swears and inappropriate behavior, is basically better than all other males in the show. He didn't rape, murder (non-Sinners), eat people etc.Plus all the I can fix him/her stuff and reverse Lucifer/Lilith scenario makes it pretty hot.
I wonder if this artist will baleet everything when Lute is revealed to be Eve
>>154545327A lot of artists will have to accept that much of their work will be noncannon after the reveal. It will be pretty fun watching the meltdowns.
>>154545349This one is particularly adamant that Roo-Eve is canon and Lute will never compare. It will be funny.
>>154545327Okay. That artist is way too aware.
>>154545356After that Lilith Eve beach scene, I see the vision.
The sheer cope from Bugcuck.
>>154545349It always happens with any fandom that gets big. Some otherwise pretty good artwork will become non canon. Ah well, that’s what AU is for.This is why I’m convinced we don’t get much Lute merch or in any of the lines. Because her current design isn’t gonna be the one we associate her with post season 3 onwards.
>>154545439What are you talking about? Lute merch is more frequent than maskless Adam.
>>154545439Exactly. Man that new design merch will sell like hot cakes because of the hype. It's probably gonna a be a scalpers paradise ( kinda like with the Lute Gravity Trading card).
>>154545475There's not a lot of Lute merch. Also mask Adam is more iconic than maskless.
Adam will put season 3 Lute in a dress.
>Bug Lute reveal>Invader Zim community invades
>>154545439What will the new design be? My guess is she lets her hair grow out longer and unkempt.
>>154545560Purple.
>>154545560She gets taller and considerably curvier.
>>154545560Here’s just my head canon: taller, stronger Amazon build, longer different coloured hair, maybe a pair of horns to rival Lilith’s? Maybe a long black one shoulder dress or a different king of armor?
One thing about fanmade Eves is they never lean into the coolest and most metal thing about her which is she's Adam's rib. But with Lute it seems plausible like hell yeah that's bones from his body baby!!!!
>>154545628SA but this is why I think she should stay short by the way, she's his freaky bone homunculus
New thread: >>154545682
>>154545628it also sets up so many boner and boning jokes that it'd be like catnip for angel dust.
